Introducing the Cornett

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Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment

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Richard Thomas introduces us to the cornett and explains how and why it became one of the most popular instruments in Europe.
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@mopippenger7373
@mopippenger7373 3 жыл бұрын
If a trumpet and an oboe had a kid...
@Must_not_say_that
@Must_not_say_that 3 жыл бұрын
As you say, and their second kid might be a tenor recorder!
@ArtemioVarela
@ArtemioVarela 2 жыл бұрын
Saxophone half-brother.
@jimcrelm9478
@jimcrelm9478 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't for cornett but Bach pairs a flute with a trumpet in the Brandenburg Concerto no. 2. And it works beautifully because the trumpet was so much quieter and more mellow at that time.
@jeffwatt3410
@jeffwatt3410 Жыл бұрын
Yes interesting (amusing!) observation! As the presenter says, the cornettit would sometimes play in consort with not only a SACKBUT (ancestor of the modern *trombone*) but also with SHAWMS (which were indeed ancestors of the modern OBOE).
@DanielMasmanian
@DanielMasmanian 8 ай бұрын
... And didn't show it much love
@davidhynd4435
@davidhynd4435 3 жыл бұрын
To Monteverdi fans this is quite a familiar sound. I discovered the music of Monteverdi at fourteen or fifteen years of age. At the risk of sounding like a nut, when listening to the 1610 Vespers alone on my bed I would imagine that I could sense what the 1600s was like, and the mournful sound of cornetts along with trombones added to that sense of ancientness. Beautiful and oddly haunting.
@jafb67
@jafb67 Жыл бұрын
Me too! I fell in love with Monteverdi at 21 and would listen to the Vespers over and over again! Then discovered Poppea and Orfeo. He was so incredibly ahead of his time.
@K1z0ku
@K1z0ku 3 ай бұрын
At 1:36 I was like "hell yeah that's Monteverdi's Orfeo"
@KorKhan89
@KorKhan89 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely instrument, and a brilliant overview! I’d also be interested about learning more about the cornett’s more anacondine cousin, the serpent.
@tomswiftyphilo2504
@tomswiftyphilo2504 3 жыл бұрын
obligatory joke about having one right here than you could play with :) No but seriously, as a lower brass player I remember all of these instruments as diminutive photographs in the band room of my high school but had no idea they were still in production, however small-scale. I was just imagining what it would be like if historical movies used period instruments like this. The only one I know of that does so is Eroica, which is a music-movie. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6WkaKBpq851bZI
@TenorCantusFirmus
@TenorCantusFirmus 3 жыл бұрын
Bought and own one for my personal amusement and pleasure. Getting the sound out of it is extremely rewarding.
@instrumentalheadquarters7062
@instrumentalheadquarters7062 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a video on it. These videos are put together so well. And there should me a updated serpent video. Maybe a lower clatinet video
@edumusicale6234
@edumusicale6234 Жыл бұрын
0:34 animal horn 1:10 small horn 1:50 cornet 2:42 cornet types 3:09 size and pitches 3:59 Mute cornet 4:25 cornet #2 5:32 Shutz's mottet 7:02 Knupfer 7:35 Adding ornaments to a melody 8:07 De Lassus unornamented 8:44 De Lassus ornamented
@1977ajax
@1977ajax Жыл бұрын
The disparaging review of the instrument in the 1930s was surely due to the fact that no bugger then knew how to play it. It is fiendishly difficult, and the beginner will at some point come to think that almost any note can be produced with almost any fingering. The lovely playing here seems simple enough - but it isn't!
@celiahanson6789
@celiahanson6789 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful instrument and love the sound. I grew up hearing this instrument and when I hear it being played it brings back many memories . My father John McCann made and sold them for years.
@richardthomas2528
@richardthomas2528 Жыл бұрын
Hi. I had two of John’s instruments and they were excellent. Also, what a nice man…very generous with his time and talent.
@willemceuleers6041
@willemceuleers6041 3 жыл бұрын
'Suzanne un jour' is by no means a motet, the texts being secular and in French. It is a 'chanson', out of which developped the 'canzona alle francese', in short the 'canzona'. This particular example, being based on a pre-existing texted composition and later embellished, is an early form. The next stage would have been an entirely new composition in the style of 'una canzona alla francese'. Cheerio, Willem
@rdbchase
@rdbchase Жыл бұрын
Take it up with Lassus.
@scataplaft
@scataplaft 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! The sound is incredibly powerful, organic and piercing. Simply beautiful. It does sound human at times. It also has a certain "ancestral" color to it... like something played for or by the Greek gods. Lol. It doesn't sound "rudimentary" though, but rather solid in terms of pitch and resonance. Amazing instrument!
@Kezzeract
@Kezzeract 3 жыл бұрын
That mute cornett sounds lovely 😍
@Chompchompyerded
@Chompchompyerded 3 жыл бұрын
I learned to play this instrument in college. In its time, it was usually played off to one side of the lips, usually to the right. You will be hard pressed to find a painting or drawing in which the player is playing it straight on like a modern trumpet. We know that this is not an artifact of the person who made the painting or drawing because where there are other "brass" instruments depicted, instruments such as the sackbutt are played straight on as their modern counterparts are today. Players who started off playing a modern brass instrument often have a difficult time learning to do it out the side of their lips, and usually give up, preferring to play it straight on like a modern brass instrument. Those of us who come to it from other instruments (I was a string player) don't have nearly the difficulty learning to do it from the side of the lips.
@sashakindel3600
@sashakindel3600 3 жыл бұрын
Does it sound different played to the side?
@Chompchompyerded
@Chompchompyerded 3 жыл бұрын
@@sashakindel3600 It doesn't. I'm not quite sure why they did it that way, especially since they were playing the sackbutt straight on. The mouthpiece they used is a bit different from the ones you see people who play them straight on use. They call it an "acorn" mouthpiece because of the shape. It looks more like an acorn than like a bell. But whereas a baroque bow makes a world of difference, the acorn mouthpiece seems to make no difference. Here is a link to a KZbin video in which one of the players is playing the cornett with an acorn mouthpiece offset to one side, while the other is playing it straight on. The player to the left is playing it the way it was originally played, while the one on the right is playing it the way the man in the above video plays it. The piece is by Giovanni Gabrielli, and do to his antiphonic style of writing you can here them playing one at a time. If you can hear a significant difference between the two, you're ear is better than mine.
@markbennett8683
@markbennett8683 3 жыл бұрын
@@sashakindel3600 The thickness of your lips makes a difference, and how loose the lip membrane is over the muscle below. Those things change along the lip, so for some players the centre is fine, but for me the corner really helps the high notes. The structure of your teeth also makes a difference. It's all highly individual.
@Muzikman127
@Muzikman127 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chompchompyerded where's the link? I'd like to hear this :)
@Ithirahad
@Ithirahad 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if one could add a metal bell to the end of these things and thereby make them louder, but while preserving the very beautiful and mellow tone. Apart from allegedly being very difficult to play, I don't see why they shouldn't be modernized and resurrected outright!
@sammarrese-wheeler3308
@sammarrese-wheeler3308 2 жыл бұрын
As a trumpet player who also plays a modern trumpet-style cornet, I'd love to know the history of how the cornet transitioned from this instrument to it's modern brass version. You can definitely hear the similarities between the two.
@rafexrafexowski4754
@rafexrafexowski4754 Жыл бұрын
It is not actually related to the modern cornet, but somehow, though many crazy developments, is ancestral to the modern tuba. The very rare bass cornett sparked the development of the serpent, a very cornett-like bass intrument which survived to the early 19th century as the low brass instrument (as it was the only one with keys). It eventually became more brass-like (still retaining keys though) and surpassed the old serpents. It was called the ophicleide (maybe not descended, but definitely created thanks to the serpent, and thus the cornett) and it later lost its multiple keys and became the tuba that we now know.
@evancobb2554
@evancobb2554 3 жыл бұрын
Now THOSE are horns
@ArtemioVarela
@ArtemioVarela 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@SwissOnZ
@SwissOnZ 3 жыл бұрын
The Cornett so incredible; it’s beautiful AF.
@victotronics
@victotronics 3 жыл бұрын
Great sounding instrument. Wish it were easier to play.....
@claytonr.young-music912
@claytonr.young-music912 3 жыл бұрын
I want to hear someone play some jazz on that thing.
@elyzsabethahne2116
@elyzsabethahne2116 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I LOVE the cornett! It looks and sounds beautiful. The sound, being softer than modern brass, doesn't hurt my ears. I do also love the French horn, but because it's louder, I have to turn down the volume when I listen to recordings of it.
@instrumentalheadquarters7062
@instrumentalheadquarters7062 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video on the lower flutes from then. Like the damore and experimental bass flutes
@rickmarti5036
@rickmarti5036 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. As you said it blends well with voices. I love works of Schutz which include the cornett Thank you.
@JessHull
@JessHull 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea this is what a cornett looked like. I always thought it was some kind of older brass instrument, like a proto-trumpet or something.
@nadroj9082
@nadroj9082 Жыл бұрын
The Cornett/ Zink/ cornetto is this instrument in the video. If you look up a cornet (1 t), you’ll see that trumpety looking instrument.
@damshek
@damshek 3 жыл бұрын
It genuinely sounds eerily similar to a human voice. You can literally hear vowels.
@iannoonan2117
@iannoonan2117 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic introduction, overview and playing - lovely warm and expressive sound
@smellfella3894
@smellfella3894 2 жыл бұрын
It’s like an exact mix of the trumpet and the flute
@InventorZahran
@InventorZahran 8 ай бұрын
Flumpet or Trute?
@nothing4mepls973
@nothing4mepls973 3 жыл бұрын
Parts of that last piece have a real Chuck Mangione vibe going on. Hearing that tune Feels So Good. Screw Shwarz, he probably thinks banjos, drums, and fiddles are "white trash" too.
@taaank54321
@taaank54321 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Excellent video!!! Richard is my cornett teacher. Maestro Thomas!
@richardthomas2528
@richardthomas2528 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Hope all’s well…
@taaank54321
@taaank54321 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardthomas2528 Hi! Richard, I'm fine thank you!
@cliffordbrown1135
@cliffordbrown1135 8 ай бұрын
Indeed! A brilliant presentation, brilliantly played. I would like to know more about Richard Thomas. I suspect he is an orchestral or brass band virtuoso. Can he be heard on the modern instrument?
@sonologies
@sonologies 3 жыл бұрын
Great Instrument. Can anyone give me information about the makers of this instrument?
@richardthomas2528
@richardthomas2528 3 жыл бұрын
treble cornett and mute cornett by Serge Delmas, cornettino by Paolo Fanciullacci
@simonettab.2737
@simonettab.2737 3 жыл бұрын
Solo una piccola precisazione per questo ottimo video: Suzanne un jour è un madrigale e non un mottetto.
@Mark-xv5lb
@Mark-xv5lb 2 жыл бұрын
great video & great series (just watched the theorbo one, too)
@riley3187
@riley3187 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh yes, the staple of British brass band
@JaneDoe-ci3gj
@JaneDoe-ci3gj 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful sound! Beautifully played!🌹
@seanmarshall7529
@seanmarshall7529 2 жыл бұрын
nice presentation... A hint at the prononciation of Giovanni... it is pronounced Jovanni.. no "i" In italian g followed by an o or an a is hard but if followed by an e or i becomes soft.. so the e or i is a mere indication of the fact that that g is soft.
@Iceland874
@Iceland874 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone sell these especially the short horns? Are there any Cornett quartets on recording? My family had a recorder quartet when I was a child. Ancient and baroque instruments have a special beauty that is so refreshing and inspiring. I wish my hands weren’t so tiny. Thank you for the video.
@adamriley6190
@adamriley6190 2 жыл бұрын
keep in mind this is an expert on ancient instruments! imagine what a beginner cornetist would sound like …
@RTGrimmer
@RTGrimmer 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, OAE, for this splendid presentation. It's sort of shocking, the hubris that one would claim in 1938, with very little historical backing/knowledge, that the cornett was a "white trash" instrument. In a vacuum of facts and lack of context, I guess it's easy to claim any old bollocks, and people mostly accept it as fact. It just goes to show that before the revival of Historical Performance Practice and the advent of musical archeology, how very little we understood about "ancient" music, and how much more we have yet to discover. It gives me a thrill to think of how our perspectives may shift toward greater love and acceptance of antique instruments in the future. Please keep up the marvelous work.
@mickeycz
@mickeycz 3 жыл бұрын
as an "ancient music" player myself (harpsichord and violin) I find the cornett extremely beautiful in sound... will perhaps secretly acquire one and learn to play
@marije179
@marije179 Жыл бұрын
In the beginning, it sounded like an oboe-flute-trumpet mix but then it reminded me of a cup muted trumpet... Very interesting instrument to say the least!
@williamgoughmusician
@williamgoughmusician 3 жыл бұрын
Bravo Richard, great video
@idraote
@idraote 3 жыл бұрын
1.35 the attempt at playing Monteverdi's fanfare from Orfeo was valiant but, due to the nature of the natural horn and of the piece itself, doomed. I didn't know the cornett even existed. And I must say that it is impressive for sheer beauty of sound and neatness. I'm still uncertain whether I prefer the classic or the mute one. They both sounded splendidly.
@YTaccount907
@YTaccount907 Жыл бұрын
In romania its called TARAGOT
@robcarter6599
@robcarter6599 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you SO much. I’ve been driving myself nuts trying to find this instrument! A friend had one 15 years ago. I played it, loved it, and I always regretted not buying, cause we lost touch. Now I can try and find one!
@MrMarcvus
@MrMarcvus 2 ай бұрын
What trash that writer wrote from the 20th century! The Cornett is a beautiful instrument with so much character compared to modern orchestral brass and woodwind - they have ironed any character out of all the instruments, including temperament, to make them dull and boring! Bring back the days where instruments had actual character and temperament meant that changing key actually added colour and interest to the piece of music!
@ericbelify
@ericbelify 7 ай бұрын
Hello! Wonderful video, thank you for posting! I’ve seen modern cornett players (and cornett players in period illustations) play the instrument from the side of their mouth. Why is this?
@AndyZach
@AndyZach 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely instrument. I've heard it played and I've heard the name 'cornett' but I haven't connected them before this video.
@guessundheit6494
@guessundheit6494 8 ай бұрын
9:38 - Harsh words. You'd think he was talking about the harmonica.
@claucastaneda7894
@claucastaneda7894 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, but theres another instrumment that actually mimics the human voice better than any other, the duduk.
@rvail136
@rvail136 Жыл бұрын
Is the base cornet any relation to the American Revolutionary Serpent? It looks similar
@millennial8441
@millennial8441 3 жыл бұрын
What a marvellous sound!
@HenrikBergpianorganist
@HenrikBergpianorganist 2 жыл бұрын
In Scandinavia cow horns with finger holes were used to call for the cows when they were out in the woods. Here's a beautiful tune: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZyVoqaVmMyIm9E
@Lucius1958
@Lucius1958 2 жыл бұрын
There was also a Finnish medieval folk instrument called the _tuohitorvi_ : somewhat closer to the cornett, with a wooden body bound with bark, and a horn bell...
@HenrikBergpianorganist
@HenrikBergpianorganist 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lucius1958 We have a relative of that too in Sweden, called 'näverlur'. But it's longer and without finger holes, only playing harmonics.
@argonwheatbelly637
@argonwheatbelly637 2 жыл бұрын
It's lovely, but I hear a distinct binding of intonation. It appears to be attuned to a particular set of modes. Are there variations in fingerhole placement to facilitate mode changes without resorting to half-holing or radical embouchure adjustments?
@Pocketfarmer1
@Pocketfarmer1 9 ай бұрын
So are the Corbett’s that have separate mouth pieces tuneable to other instruments?
@johnries5593
@johnries5593 3 жыл бұрын
As I recall Arthur, Prince of Wales died long before Elizabeth I was born.
@Must_not_say_that
@Must_not_say_that 3 жыл бұрын
--- but then memory can play tricks with age!
@stlev99
@stlev99 2 жыл бұрын
What a beautifully clear sound
@opreapetru404
@opreapetru404 2 жыл бұрын
bravissimo segnor
@itamarbar9580
@itamarbar9580 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please make a video on the modern cornet?
@stephenburgess5710
@stephenburgess5710 3 жыл бұрын
Yes Cornett
@Major00Tom
@Major00Tom 3 жыл бұрын
Tocando la corneta como si no hubiera un mañana.
@7eis
@7eis 3 жыл бұрын
4:10 a man plays a 70ies baseball bat
@Screamer-tm6ly
@Screamer-tm6ly Жыл бұрын
Teehee
@sewind6613
@sewind6613 2 жыл бұрын
How did you get away with that at 2:18?! Thoroughly entertaining, and wonderfully educational. Thank you.
@earthlightsmusic2743
@earthlightsmusic2743 3 жыл бұрын
How does it compare to the cornetto? A member of Convivium Musicum told me about that some years ago.
@Iceland874
@Iceland874 2 жыл бұрын
It’s beautiful. Sadly my hands are tiny but I would love to have one.
@robloxmaniacdanceandshake7871
@robloxmaniacdanceandshake7871 3 жыл бұрын
very Kool🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘...Rock-on Cornett section!!!!!...
@the_eternal_student
@the_eternal_student 2 жыл бұрын
Fruit woods are hardwoods; softwoods are evergreens and coniferous.
@РафаэлаХендрикс
@РафаэлаХендрикс Жыл бұрын
It literally blows my mind, even more so than the serpent.
@PvcPringles
@PvcPringles 2 жыл бұрын
HOL UP!!! I thought horns cant have holes like woodwinds. Either that or the reed is in the mouthpiece (probably not though).
@yvescambefort3365
@yvescambefort3365 3 жыл бұрын
It is a pity you do not mention the name of Serge Delmas, who most probably is the maker of the instruments you were playing.
@FishingForLife28
@FishingForLife28 Жыл бұрын
Where do I get one?!
@gregmonks
@gregmonks 3 жыл бұрын
The cornetti resoundingly defeated my attempts play them back in my university days. The fipple (mouthpiece) was supposed to have been off-set, which was something our instructor hadn't known about. I wonder if Monk rosin copies are still being made?
@markbennett8683
@markbennett8683 3 жыл бұрын
Yes they are. Search for Jeremy West Monk Workshop.
@richardthomas2528
@richardthomas2528 3 жыл бұрын
Search also Ricardo Simian 3D instruments and Jamie Savan who are both making high performance printed instruments
@amberstreetfilms
@amberstreetfilms 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@קוראי
@קוראי 2 жыл бұрын
I looked up midevel saxophone and got this,close enough
@ArtemioVarela
@ArtemioVarela 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of.
@funguy7600
@funguy7600 Жыл бұрын
rrrrriiiiicolaaaa
@kidmohair8151
@kidmohair8151 2 жыл бұрын
remind me not to be the person sitting in front and below the cornett section... I can only imagine that it would be bit damp, in a most unsettling way
@frankiemarrerojr7827
@frankiemarrerojr7827 Жыл бұрын
00:31
@ranonampangom2185
@ranonampangom2185 2 жыл бұрын
Lol so it's a Shofar
@Jesuswinsbirdofmichigan
@Jesuswinsbirdofmichigan Жыл бұрын
Another 1st for this channel! Thanks for the entertaining education. Nov12/2022✝Jesus wins.SS.
@frankiemarrerojr7827
@frankiemarrerojr7827 Жыл бұрын
:31
@jarcau_vegan
@jarcau_vegan 3 жыл бұрын
1:49 - Imagine _"a-la-John-Lennon"_ that you are a cow, being hunted, trapped, raised or even grown for your horns, your effort, your future breed, for the milk you'll produce for your babies, for your genetically selected tasteful and overgrown flesh, for your amusing or docile character... Now imagine all of us just going on, randomly having fun about the fact that we exploit you. Unnecessarily; just for fashion, taste, tradition, entertainment... Just because _"but you are not like us"_ and _"but we like it"._ Imagine aaall the peopleee!! 🍄 · By the way, all these timbres sound incredible!! Please, go vegan 🍀
@the_eternal_student
@the_eternal_student 2 жыл бұрын
The references to the popular media and the irreverent attitude are very annoying.
@dreamer_4937
@dreamer_4937 3 жыл бұрын
Glorious prominence? Hardly 😂 still sounds brash and weedy.
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