Introducing Upgrades to Improve Performance and Customer Experience for the Stark VARG.

[@Stepchildx]

Nice to see the CEO/founder can ride as well! These are going to be so awesome! I will be ordering one in the future. Stoked.

[@paulfreimanis2202]

Well to be honest.. We saw him take a helmet off.. not actually ride..

[@ericyoung8559]

@@paulfreimanis2202if you loook in the beginning he’s in the white gear the whole time riding

[@justincoats7236]

I'm wondering how fast they will fill the orders? My brother put his $100 down over a year ago.

[@sambuvca22]

only way it could ever happen. rider first , engineer second

[@OregonCrow]

A year later and still no bike.

[@tiagomonteiro2678]

Folks, I had a brilliant Varg experience about a week ago out on our normal hard-enduro routine training. All I can say is that there's plenty of power from the get go but also very manageable and trackable for slow rock or loose terrain climbing. It pivot turns like a normal bike and to go over mode 3 is just asking for some whiskey throttles...). Modes switch could not be more simple. Very good. Suspension could be softer but I am sure that's just the feeling from a brand new bike anyway. It will soften in time. I hope in the future there will be knobs to adjust clickers on the fly. The bike's were set up to hard enduro so, Mittas double green stripe tires with enduro bib mousse on each (18" rear wheel). Only thing I was not expecting is the fact that the bike is fully disengaged if reversing. That means that in the event of you possibly loosing your balance and get off the bike, it will keep rolling back. That's something easy to remember, I suppose. In that aspect, it would be great to tackle some kind of electronic brake at a certain inclination (because for hard-enduro you do want to roll back a bit a "blip" it to go up and past obstacles in your way). Other than that, I was very surprised on how easy it is to adapt to such bike. Muscle memory kept playing on me, meaning my legs did once in a while searched for the brake or gear shift pedals... Will try to edit some footage on this and tomorrow's rides as soon as possible!

[@bwhaskell]

Lets go!!!!!!!!! Amazing!!! Customers will appreciate the extra battery capacity.

[@nate5land]

For sure, but I wonder how badly they missed their weight targets… also they missed them despite their weight savings via their new inner tube technology. In the end, the extra battery life is probably worth the extra weight. I’m just stupid curious how this thing is going to perform under my typical circumstances compared with a 450. I ordered mine within the first day or two. It’s crazy you ordered yours 7 hours prior to the NDA expiration! Respect brother! Haha

[@jpesicka492]

@@nate5land ya only time weight makes a big difference for me on a dirtbike is when I have to push it or pick it up

[@jrnmoe3740]

@@nate5land they added 8kg. So 118kg now.

[@johnchristiansen2970]

@@jrnmoe3740 that's 260.15 lbs in my land and could be noticeable in a trail setting use. A fueled up XC or TX 300 would be around 237 lbs with Fuel and a TE or XCW 300 would be around 245-250 lbs with a full tank of fuel.

[@nate5land]

@jpesicka69 When I was a kid, I used to moto an XR600R. While it was surprisingly good… the extra weight mattered (mostly on steep jump faces, hard landings, and some turns). I get what you’re saying, but light weight is a big plus.

[@dsm02c]

Ordered mime December 17 2021, showing end of September for ship date. Pretty impressive boys! Looking forward to it.

[@sebraaap]

Really looking forward to the street legal version for enduro use

[@sebraaap]

@@firstbloood1 I'm just hoping, but I know it takes longer to develop and get certified, Stark future may be focusing on producing the dirtbike for now, let's see.. I'm also waiting to see the Rieju EMR.

[@OregonCrow]

@@sebraaap You won't get it either way, you're all talk.

[@sebraaap]

@@OregonCrow I own a KTM freeride e-xc already, where's the hate from?!

[@OregonCrow]

@@sebraaap no where near a stark varg but ok.

[@21AirDrop]

Can not wait! This is bike is going to be so awesome! My current bike is a 2023 KTM 250 XC-F. I’m so looking forward to the increases performance and low maintenance!

[@LectricGo]

Amazing news on the updated battery capacity! I can't wait!

[@h20mxracer222]

Awesome to see and great job to everyone behind this incredible project. This just might be my next new bike.

[@ryanngalea]

Congrats to the team!

[@JohnHowerton137]

Beautiful. Can't wait to get mine 🥰

[@Nika_Basharuli]

It's mind blowing, Hope I will get one of this crazy machine in Georgia ❤ Future is here 🤩

[@babizz]

Félicitations pour votre travail extraordinaire. J’ai hâte d’avoir la mienne bientôt et j’attend le prochain modèle enduro / route légal pour pouvoir rouler en moto légalement sur les routes pour aller sur les pistes ou les bois.

[@vinslesgaz]

Oui vivement la version homologuée !!!😊

[@mxer51]

Congratulations! Can't wait!

[@MattBuck777]

What a rad machine !

[@Raydio6]

Can’t wait!

[@motomiles5311]

Molicel P42A (67g) to Molicel P45B (70g) perhaps? 400 cells x 3g adding an extra 1.2Kg ? Sounds like a good tradeoff if this is the case.

[@floydb9100]

haha cool to see the ceo to get down on it!

[@seangavingregory4367]

These really look awesome..

[@ChrisKAloha]

Looks so good. Please put a clutch on the enduro model and all the other features that EM has on their bikes. Excited to see Taddy testing.

[@jacobraydesign]

I am very excited for this bike. I don't ride motocross that often I do race enduro and rally... this is a challange and I really wish the battery could be quickly swapped for a new one. That way an 8 hour rally becomes possible.

[@damienhouques6379]

Congratulations for leading that project to your final goal ! Very inspiring for all entrepreneurs 🎉

[@andreashofstad]

we NEED a street version with fast charge and enduro setup :)

[@shauninall4176]

Best motorcycle company hands down

[@Jonathan-L]

I'm looking forward to road going models & motards.

[@douglasyoung3992]

Finally Road one today, surpassed my expectations. Quality Machining Hardware fit and finish is far beyond any of the Chinese bikes.

[@mflanagan]

Love the idea of having a $1000 phone replacing the bar padding 👌 smart work

[@Ethericbikes]

I’ll definitely never get ride of my gas Moto but I’m definitely interested in one of these since they are actually properly designed and built!

[@take5th]

I refuse to spend 13k on 100 year technology, but may go for one of these. Min sure they will be more affordable in five years, but I’m old and can’t wait. Hope they’re available in quantity soon.

[@riccardoziani333]

Awesome!!

[@the_Acaman]

I'm really hoping for your success! And hopefully a street legal model down the line, along with a supermoto model!

[@conra005]

CONGRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cant wait. Ordered two early in the process, hoping to get a call or email soon. Stick to the order line please - dont do a RIVIAN.

[@paulmessikommer4027]

great work !!

[@johnpearceboyer]

Looks so fun! I'm getting one

[@waynehearst317]

Send us a bike for "competition use". Don't need that huge display screen and the heavy/bulky mechanism that allows it to be removed. That saves a pound or two in the worst place you want weight (high up on the rider triangle). Make it lighter and capable of one hour ride time at race pace with a fast charger or hot swappable battery. Keep this model for the casuals.

[@oskarskates]

you should do that when you build your own electric dirt-bike brand for real non casual riders like yourself.

[@RomeoMihalcea]

you can remove your head to save some weight. It;s useless anyway

[@Alloutconcrete]

Denied... but getting closer and closer to success... many years away from being able to compete.. but headed in the right direction...

[@woodysrockspyro6436]

We have a guy that rides enduro on a different style of the electric. 1hr. 20min. Race. He changes the battery in the middle and still wins. Vet 50+ I think.

[@loz4830]

yeah the stark varg wouldnt be able to race, its WAY too fast, it would shit on everything, 80 horsepower, no shifts, instant power at any speed, lighter feeling than a 125, it wouldnt be fair

[@MAXlMUS]

Does it disable throttle when you press brakes? Looking for a whiskey throttle solution on a handlebars. Unfortunately happens often in enduro.

[@Nobody-dc8dp]

They need to make that screen more protected or that console panel on the bars. Making it so it can just pop right out is convenient, but dirt biking is brutal and messy, so protecting that electronic from mud and dust is very important, especially if it controls so much of the bike I bet.

[@FaithandActiondotnet]

I'm here in Alaska if you want to start test riding a Varg snow bike system.

[@ianmangham4570]

Some beautiful machine she's gonna be 😮

[@jessehiggins748]

Congratulations stark varg singing Eli tomac

[@josephcapps7325]

Would be cool if you guys could do some kind of clutch. Would be really cool to be able to have a lot of different clutch adjustments though the app also. An example would be to have more or less load up for whenever you drop the clutch. Instead of dropping the clutch and getting way to much power and sliding all over the place you can adjust down so it’s more controllable. Or whenever the clutch lever gets pulled in it can act as a whole different feature. Let’s say if you have the bike set to your normal power out put you want (60) then whenever the lever is applied it only allows half that (30). I feel like that would be a game changer in long ruts or tight slick hard pack turns where throttle control is so important. I “think” it would almost act as a better traction control. Can’t wait to see these at the track!

[@teddyf9438]

You really don't understand what it's like to ride an electric bike. Everything you just said is done with the throttle. I know it's hard to comprehend because technically everything you mentioned can also be done on a gas bike with the throttle and enough skill/technique, but it's just not the same.

[@floydb9100]

@@teddyf9438 yeah i saw a vid guy who rides with clutch and try this bike for first time. surprised themselves to learn they prefer the way the stark is

[@josephcapps7325]

@@teddyf9438 so your just gonna make that assumption of not knowing if I’ve ridden other electric bikes? That in itself is weird. You just made a blatant assumption and didn’t explain anything. Explain one electric bike that has any of those features and or how that can only be done with a throttle. I would love for you to explain how you can load up the engine without a clutch? Honestly would Like to know. Will be the first time in my 20 years of racing to hear anything that can do that.

[@josephcapps7325]

@@floydb9100 lol share a video with someone riding THIS bike with a clutch. I’ve only seen left handed rear brakes. So I definitely want to see that. I’ve seen it on other ebike but not this one.

[@peterbonivart6818]

@@josephcapps7325 why would you want to load up a motor with instant torque?

[@eveadams8028]

How about an track a race program . A race mode with 3 or 4 shift modes with up to 60 pins per lap. Each pin drop; sets off a program Based on the 1-4 power modes 1-hp level 2- regen. braking 3- no re gen. 4- a stall / or slow mo power release time. So if you go around the track and could hook a go pro to it. You could sink the video with the phone when you play the video back you could drop pins to automatically initiate preprogram power and regen programs. Say landing off a jump onto a sharp turn. You drop a pin initiates the regen level you pick for a specific amounts of time another. Hits another pin that is dropped initiates a hp level to and no regen. Coming out of the sharp turn in to a straight away. You could create a automatic shifting program that changes as you do around the track. Stark varg bikes need there own track set up to handle all it has and jumping capabilities. All riders could per program how their bike will respond. Having to stop to reset the regen and hp setting does no good in a race. If you could drop pins. Say one day before the race. You program the track in two laps one lap on the outside and one on the inside. Do three fast laps. Create a function for pin drop and use the up and down or power button to drop pins on the fly. I probably sound nuts, but i can see it happening. You can have a stock race where the track controls the bikes or up load a power program for all riders on a stark varg circuit its own class and track for its bikes. Or with a manual mode Using the button for a 1-2-3 1 is a stationary hp level. Set on the phone with no regen. 2 is 25 percent hit up again 2a is 50%. 2 b is 75% regen Or the down button is 3 increases power 3a a little ore in 3 or 5 hp increments. You can go back watch the go pro video. Watch out sider videos to help make adjustment. With the bike having one brake level being able to increase the regen braking on the fly will greatly help in steep down hills and giving it more Hp to get up steep hills. Basicall giving that bike a automatic transmission with manual lever shifting like high in sport cars. But in order to do that you may want to make sure that the buttons can handle it and or create a 3 button switch set up center button, up and down on one side and a optional horn button. Or add two or three buttons on each side And you can hook it up to a computer side and choose what the button do. Like a game controller. And if you want to go all out try putting two throttles on the bike that can be locked for a left hand right hand set up with a strong brake lever on each side that can be locked locked open to act as guards. Making the bike completely customizable to any riders choice. With a parental control feature that locks out different levels. I think with all that going on perhaps think about bringing the fat cat bike back the bikes with balloon/ atv tires. I have only learned about the bike 30 hrs ago and have been binge watching review videos. I still think a larger bike that goes up to 100hp with the capacity to run at 40 to 65 hp for 2 to 3 hrs and and 80 to 90 1-1 1/2hrs and 100 at 30 to 45 minutes would be awesome. A big boys bike. Beefier like a 750 or 800 moto dirt bike. Like the back wheel size becomes the front wheel sits a little taller and its first level starts at 30 horse power with lower gear ration that will go up any hill. Never rode one can not afford one but love the possiblitites i see from the videos. For 200 weight plus weight with a passenger it doesnt need to do over 85mph Just be a beast.

[@ChitFromChinola]

Bad ass. Dig it . . .

[@jonjackson6245]

What is the plan for parts and service? Are service technicians being trained? Wil parts be available to dealers in a timely manner?

[@Sha0linstyle]

There's specific moto dealership that will sell the bike and will know how to fix it.

[@daviddanz6451]

That means NO!

[@BM205]

So when will we see this going up against 450s in moto and super cross?

[@Dat_Sun]

Never

[@RydenAround]

Yes! 4 skins are scared

[@ktmboy1989]

The bike has 80hp I think it would have to be its own class

[@CumminsTurbo4]

I hope this goes better than Zero. I bought a 2017 Zero FXS and I'm still trying to get one riding season out of it without problems....😢😢

[@tide4113]

Can’t wait to charge it at the track with my Ford lightning.

[@stickyicky2858]

I dig it i have not ridenin a long time like 6 years but im thinking about riding again and i may grab a stark this time around i will prob buy a yz250f aswell as i love my yamahas lol

[@toothasaurus]

We want a dual sport version!

[@visionlightlab6094]

Not crazy about paying extra for software to enable extra power/modes but when a street legal one is made will probably get one anyways.

[@moto3463]

If you guys can improve the weight and battery life for a future model that can outrun a fuel dirtbike it has the potential to completely take over the average consumer market. Dirtbike tracks in high density areas, more growth for the sport in general. And to have them racing at a world wide level would also increase popularity.

[@robertfoertsch]

Excellent, Thanks

[@blmotor1]

I think I ordered one of these and put a deposit down. It’s been so long ago I can’t remember

[@ELECTRICMOTOCROSSMACHINE]

Yey!

[@mattranum]

Any updates ?? When do I get mine ?

[@ralphmnopo9169]

🔥🔥🔥

[@cheristratton]

I ordered one. When do I get it ? Can someone please reach out ? Steven

[@CarChrisMC]

Wanted to order one already for half a year, but never got any answers to any of my questions through their official mail or any other channels 😖

[@GatorNinetyNine]

I'd buy one it wasn't software limited. It should be delivered out of the box with preset ride modes. Turn on and ride. No strings attached.

[@JuiC30]

You sound like a 400 pound dude that doesn't really wana do anything.....

[@sebraaap]

That's the case, it already has multiple preset riding modes, and leaves full customisation options to the rider so I'm not sure what you're complaining about.

[@sebraaap]

That's the case, it already had riding modes, and leaves full customisation options to the rider so I'm not sure what you're complaining about.

[@NirHason]

You don't need the phone in order to ride the bike...it just giving you more customization in case you want it :)

[@8180634]

I want one!

[@waverider744]

Does it have a clutch?

[@NirHason]

No

[@slpn9t]

Not sold never will be, I love the smell of fuel!

[@MAXlMUS]

You still can spill fuel over it 😁

[@kurtheidelbach]

You can get an air fresher. It’s a growth area and enhancement not replacement.

[@Robbe1912]

if you make one that is street legal in germany im going to buy it instantly. cant register a new enduro bike here anymore because of emissions regulations.

[@GoatRoper911]

I wish you would make a yellow option with yellow rims like a Suzuki factory bike. Anyone else?

[@albertoolivieri7622]

I love it 🥵😍😍

[@lucanegrello6561]

I' m waiting for the street legal model

[@sludge86]

We’ll see. It’s still more expensive than even the Factory Editions of the gas bikes. This bike is more marketed to the Ferrari type customers. Not sure when this will be homologated to race in any pro competition.

[@TroyCollier]

No oil or fuel, no filters, no rebuilds, take my money

[@NirHason]

@@TroyCollier Exactly ! The only reason I didn't order this bike is because my country's regulations that won't allow this bike pass the customs :(

[@justaintracin]

How do i get one?

[@321Misfits]

Can I invest? I want to start an electric dirt bike track in my local area

[@yoshyoka]

So... when for the Enduro model?

[@MAXlMUS]

enduro rear wheel already available in configurator

[@NirHason]

@@MAXlMUS A clutch would be awesome for hard enduro.

[@MAXlMUS]

@@NirHason for traction should not be needed as you can adjust throttle response in the app. For whiskey throttle - I hope they managed to disable throttle when you push the brake, so buy brake lever on the left side and should be same as throttle

[@yoshyoka]

@@MAXlMUS It takes a little more that that to make an enduro bike out of it, yet if you get there my order is guaranteed!

[@CodyASaint]

Really need to focus on the sound. If i went to a supercross event with these quite bikes it would be lame as hell.

[@kurtheidelbach]

It’s actually awesome watching the 50’s with no sound now. Don’t need to put ear muffs on my kids and you can talk about the race at the same time. It’s about the racing not sound. If you are really wrapped around the noise you can make it sound like whatever you want.

[@nikolasgibson3438]

Watching Kenny rip it is sick

[@eric-yt]

While I appreciate the drive to create something new, I fear for the future of the sport. When government agencies become aware of these bikes, many will be tempted to further restrict gas bikes. And of course, we can't forget the price either. Just like the four stroke revolution, I fear that these bikes will further squeeze out the average blue collar person.

[@OtisFlint]

I've got to disagree with the blue collar guys getting squeezed by e-bikes. Anyone racing seriously now is paying a fortune to maintain their 4 stroke bikes, upgrading every 1-2 years, etc. There's no way the e-bikes are going to have a higher overall cost of ownership than these maintenance queen 4 stroke mx bikes.

[@Dat_Sun]

Don't worry law enforcement won't be able to catch us on their Starks.

[@Dat_Sun]

@@OtisFlint I race my KX450, it's a 2012 and still unopened. My playbike is a KTM tbi 250cx and it absolutely embarrasses electric junk. Even just a little te150i out performs electric bikes in every category multiple times over. Electric bikes will cost a fortune to own and even more to maintain. They have suspension, bushings, bearings tires, wheels almost everything a regular dirt bike does, except they've added a middleman, the storage battery and motor at about 3x the weight of a modern 2t engine. I've been looking everywhere and I don't see any 240 volt trees around here. Does the Stark come with a 450 CC gasoline generator?

[@ktmboy1989]

​@Dat Sun there are battery electric generators which are basically a footlocker sized battery pack that can 240v charge. They can also come with fold out solar panels to charge while you're out riding. Additionally if you have an electric vehicle you can transfer some of that charge to your e dirtbike. Probably the more popular option for enduro guys especially in endurance applications, would be swappable battery packs.

[@OtisFlint]

@@Dat_Sun Dude, stop. You "race" an 11 year old, unopened bike? That's all i need to know to understand the type of guy i'm dealing with.

[@opencurtains9323]

please make a enduro model

[@5LeTT]

if it was under 100 kg and with a hub motor, I would buy it

[@richman0roli]

Why a hub motor?

[@yukonjon5964]

they tried reversing the drive on snowmobiles from the front track axle to the rear axle. while it reduced track drag and was way faster with the same size engine, they could not get the machine to accelerate off the starting line quick enough. it just spun out. this is because the front drive design pulls the rear of the sled down and increases both traction and weight-shift. rear drive pushed the nose of the sled down and greatly reduced traction. so they dropped the project. going to hub-drive on a bike would also have some benefits, like longer battery life due to less parasitic power loss, but it would not pull the rear of the bike down on a start the way a chain drive system pulls the swingarm up under acceleration. this "packing" effect that bikes have increases stability and traction under acceleration. hub-drive would make the suspension respond much better under acceleration. however, the bike would want to wheelie really badly off the starting line, or anytime you slowed down then got on the power quickly. we may find that in the off road world, hub-drive will not catch on. anyone else know the pros and cons of hub-drive and can add to this?

[@MAXlMUS]

You clearly don't have a clue in a bike design.

[@stevenhicks3704]

How much are thy

[@cvdavis]

A new battery has been developed that doubles what Tesla batteries do. It's in production for drones and airplanes. I can't wait until this trickles down to dirt bikes.

[@Dat_Sun]

No there isn't.

[@NirHason]

What's the name of this development?

[@MAXlMUS]

@@NirHason "aliexpress 100% quality guartantee"

[@paulojrg]

Now if there was a way of ditching the chain...

[@jimbeaux89]

YESSSSS!!! I’d rather get one of these instead of a combustion bike.

[@Dat_Sun]

You've never ridden a motorcycle

[@jimbeaux89]

@@Dat_Sun bro it’s a sick looking bike, calm tf down. People are allowed to have differing opinions.

[@Dat_Sun]

@@jimbeaux89 I am at the maximum level of calm. I feel my original comment holds water, no way someone would choose a heavy, slow and weak electric motorcycle over a new fi 2t bike, especially one with electronic pv.

[@loz4830]

@@Dat_Sun 'heavy and slow' the thing has more horsepower than any dirt bike ever made

[@Dat_Sun]

@@loz4830 Not even close. Stark rated the hp, not certified like SAE, certified would be about 8hp or 6,000 watts being continually discharged from the battery compartment. If it was so good, why don't they win against ice bikes? No electric bike on earth stands a chance against a regular old 250cc such as a 250xc, especially the newer 23+ fi, tBi /electronic power valve version. You won't find electric dirtbikes up here in the rockies, down right dangerous with such limited range and lack of 240v 40 amp charging trees. By comparison, the best electric dirtbike is a powerwheel next to a 250xc. I have 5k to the first electric dirtbike owner than can make one lap around Kremmlings Wolford mountain blm land before I do. All I ask is for video rights, I want to upload the results.

[@ianjaeger4178]

We all have to get hockey cards and clothes hanger clips and put them in the spokes so it sounds like a motorbike it's too quiet it's weird

[@claudioteixeira5917]

for when an enduro bike?

[@229glock]

I want.

[@mikecr4916]

You need to ditch reliance on a cellphone for a dirt bike.

[@Dat_Sun]

One mud puddle and you won't be able to get the phone back in.

[@NirHason]

@@Dat_Sun so don't take it out when you're riding the mud ;) You can also just put it away in your backbag or something since the bike doesn't need it to operate. It would. benice if they can give us a plastic piece that will fit in there while the phone is not mounted just to keep it clean if case you want to avoid mud getting in :)

[@fitzanator436]

Fucking weapon 😎

[@mxriderdakar]

Hmmm 260 lbs instead of 242??? All that weight saving promoted since 2021 to end up with the weight of an Alta.

[@paulpaul5606]

You have lovely hair

[@Exuberator]

Est shipping: never.

[@ianjaeger4178]

Can you take cryptos payment XRP Euro money as like the Euro coin USDC because of US dollar doesn't work no more after a few more days it's finished

[@easternyellowjacket276]

Still waiting?

[@ianjaeger4178]

Oh and I think I'm going to buy three I'm going to ship them to myself here Sierra Leone I'm building a truck that's going to be sweet I can't get race feel here for the for the 450 KXF or the CR500 or the KX250 the Yamaha 252 stroke KTM 300 two-stroke can't get race fuel here so this is the shit so yeah I'll get three of these things if you got mini bikes like pit bikes I'll buy 10 I'm building a Travis pastrana pit bike track here in my yard

[@ogasi1798]

yet to see one in any real terrain - yet to see one in a GP as was promised

[@1986alexpotter]

Sad the bike got fatter. Maybe in a decade or so you'll match ICE with better battery tech. Fat bikes are the worst for enduro.

[@abruptlyblunt]

i know the ama was going to let the alta compete but the varg is no alta, the varg not only can run circles around the alta but can out perform anything the other manufacturer's have to offer and they know it, there is no way the other manufacturer's are going to stand by and let the varg run against them heads up especially in supercross, outdoors maybe but not supercross. you guys built the varg too good and the other manufacturer's got nothing that can touch the varg so they're going to put up a lot of opposition to allowing the varg to compete. i hope i'm wrong but don't think i am...........

[@appv12]

that phone mount is the most over engineered thing ive ever seen.

[@daviddanz6451]

Whats the cost? How much are batteries? Where can your charge it at? And it still takes fossil fuels to charge them. I will stick to gas.

[@WithoutCertainty]

$13,000 No thanks.

[@sebraaap]

Innovation is always expensive at the beginning, as was injection. So it will get cheaper, also maintenance cost are pretty much inexistant, only the chain needs replacing. I can't wait that owners bring it to tracks and smoke thermic bikes, that will change minds

[@thomastjg53]

@@sebraaap Do you think that the battery, an E motor will last for ever ? Not likely. Just like all of the E mowers an thing’s, batteries need replacing at some point, what are they going to cost ? I would love to try one of these bikes out , it might be great for MX racing. But off road, not sure if you can’t change the battery haft way though a gncc , or H.S. Maybe they will address it some day .

[@rico8089]

$13,000 is not bad. Literally the same price as a new KTM 300XC, which I have and wouldn't trade for an Ebike btw

[@sebraaap]

@@rico8089 I own the electric freeride from KTM I also own a 300 gas gas but I mostly use the electric now. Apart from autonomy and noise (which you end up getting annoyed about when you get used to silence) the electric advantages are so convenient that I ride it so much more often that thermic.

[@sebraaap]

@@thomastjg53 all ebikes companies are aware about it, MXers are a tough crowd to convince, I personally never wanted to hear about a non-noise and vibration making bike but right now that's the one I would keep if I had to choose. So yes hundreds of engineers are already working on that, it's just the beginning of this energy for off-road. About the battery swapping, I'm usually so washed from the ride (which constant torque keeps your arms pretty hard) that the charging time is just enough to recover your own energy. For now there's no 6 hours autonomy Enduro bike but the big manufacturers will share news soon I'm confident about it.

[@ryancuda45]

cant wait to knock the rest of my teeth out on my stupid smart phone bar pad lol

[@artofcards_tcg]

I mean cool.... But it just sounds lame lol

[@Dico6]

Gee, they sound awesome. 🤮 If this is the future of MX I'm out. Fortunately it won't be.

[@kurtheidelbach]

It’s a great way to separate real fans. If that’s all it takes to get rid of you

[@remonschaft2090]

Looks like and old bike...What I already thought just fake news

[@jimmieknutas4435]

Are you. for real? What will you say when you are proven wrong your little troll?