Introduction to Islamicate Occult Sciences

This is the first in a series of episodes exploring the world of Occult Sciences in the Islamicate World, including such topics as Alchemy, Astrology, Talismanic Magic & the Science of Letters.
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Sources/Suggested Reading:
Melvin-Koushki, Matthew & Noah Gardner (2017). "Islamicate Occultism: New Perspectives". Brill.
Saif, Liana (2015). "The Arabic Influences on Early Modern Occult Philosophy". Palgrave Macmillan.
Saif, Liana; Francesca Leoni; Matthew Melvin-Koushki & Farouk Yahya (2021). "Islamicate Occult Sciences in Theory and Practice". Brill.
Savage-Smith, Emily (ed.) (2004). "Magic & Divination in Early Islam". Ashgate Publishing.
Van Bladel, Kevin (2009). "The Arabic Hermes: From Pagan Sage to Prophet of Science". Oxford University Press.
"The Openings Revealed in Makka", al-Futuhat al-Makkiyya by Ibn 'Arabi. Translated by Eric Shu'ayb Winkel. Vol. 1. Pir Press.
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[@carolajib1188]

Do a video on dark Hinduism xxx

[@agniswar3]

Do video on Tantra and tantric rituals of Hinduism please 🙏

[@agniswar3]

Kali puja is coming soon so can you make a video on Diwali as well?

[@FacePalmTheWorldArmy]

19:20 why is the face blurred out, but its on a painting?

[@stadiamak692]

Could you talk on the link between ego death through 5meo dmt and how these sufis may have reached similar states. Regular dmt also leads to seeing entities etc. Would these sufis have taken physo active herbs which would lead them to describe jinn etc. What kind of "stuff" were these sufis tripping on. Syrian rue is well known to open up the physco receptors in the brain.... And rumi spoke of the peganum seeds Are there any other links?

[@ezra9570]

talking about these topics are usually avoided in the arabic world and its surrounded by mystery. i am very happy to have finally found someone talk about them in an unbiased way. this channel is really a Treasure.

[@gevonuealon7349]

Def not at all. Because you live in the west

[@mr.mysteriousyt6118]

@@gevonuealon7349 lmao ok bro just don't think that you're better than anyone because you're not.

[@vannakinder352]

It is not that avoided in Syria or Lebanon (given we not only are secular states but tend to be varied in interpretations of Islam), again the Arab world is a socio-cultural term only connected by region and shared language. Its influence seems to grow in places that are becoming more democratized like Tunisia.

[@ezra9570]

@@gevonuealon7349 no i don’t live in the west i’m middle eastern 😑

[@ezra9570]

@@vannakinder352 you are absolutely right i shouldn’t have said the “arabic world” maybe only where i come from which is a gulf country but then again i also meant to refer to the media world, of course you will find people discussing these topics in the day to day life but you wont find social media resources that are well structured and unbiased like this.

[@MsXXCrazy]

Can we all agree that his arabic pronunciation is really good?! Good job on the video!

[@hamzasaleem3242]

Yeah, it feels so satisfying ☺️

[@shonmartin61]

yeah I thought he was muslim when I first found his page.

[@je-freenorman7787]

Nobody needs to agree The truth does not need you to agree

[@jayzee7467]

I know when I contemplated doing a Master's in religious studies that there was a secondary language requirement related to your area of study.

[@je-freenorman7787]

@@jayzee7467 You have a maters in religious studies? Perfect You are the person , I wish to speak to. I know the real truth and I can now prove it. Religion is not real All religion is the same All religion is satanic Every government today is Roman Government is a form of slavery that uses religion to make people accept their own slavery to the Monarchy. Ask me anything?

[@wissama6369]

Your Arabic pronunciation, your unbiased narration, your in-depth research, as an Arab, i extend my respect and appreciation, u r doing a great job, keep spreading beautiful science, my friend ❤️

[@shehuyakubu3751]

“Unbiased” = giving it a western spin

[@Rath9765]

Bro this video has misinformation.or he just picked and choose what he wants throw everything else

[@wissama6369]

@@Rath9765 please do share

[@richlisola1]

@@Rath9765Well then “bro,” why don’t you teach us then? You refute this video. Back your position with information, research, facts. The man spent a lot of time and effort on his presentation-If you have a counter lesson, bring forth your proofs, evidence.

[@Rath9765]

@@richlisola1 bro it's very simple in islam once you try to do magic you are out of Islam unless you change your ways.

[@boneysouthwest]

I'm a Muslim Arab and I will tell you that the occult(sihr) is VERY prevalent in our society. My momma would always talk about the eyn(the "evil eye"), sihr, & dream translation. There is also a practice of "translating" or fortune telling the remnants of Arabic coffee that remains in Arab style cups.

[@e.m.1766]

The difference is that source of power being evoked...i.e evoking the power of Allah or by the permission of Allah vs appealing to the evil jinn and/or Satan.

[@LukmanHakim-gn3uk]

Funny thing is that the word "sihr" was adopted by malay/indonesia language which means almost similar to Arabic, "magic"

[@nowiambecomedeath970]

We call that evil eye as "buri nazar"

[@leodarksam6230]

I'm a Muslim from Asia and nothing like that exists in our society though.

[@CiroNero]

@@leodarksam6230 Which part of Asia.

[@kedo009]

Dude, Nobody asked but As an Arab, I would like to assure you that your Arabic pronunciation (names and titles) is spot on, so good. Very informative and fascinating vid. Keep spreading the good knowledge. *Miramiah(salvia) cheers

[@Realatmx]

Salvia means?

[@kedo009]

@@Realatmx it's a herb. You boil in water like tea 🍵 and it has many many benefits. Look it up.

[@Infinite_voyager]

I would love to see a video about the relationship between Tarot and ancient mysticism someday

[@warboats]

absolutely, maybe not a very reputable theory nowdays but i remember reading A. E. Waite alluding to the possibility that some of the symbolism in tarot might be influenced by the Cathars, an attempt of theirs to preserve some of their teachings, i always loved that idea, true or not

[@LetsTalkReligion]

I think Angela's Symposium did an episode relatively recently about Tarot!

[@warboats]

@@LetsTalkReligion oh isit?? grand, i'll check it ouot, ta!

[@Infinite_voyager]

@@LetsTalkReligion I’ll check it out for sure! Thanks 😊

[@christopherellis2663]

@@warboats The Cathars were a variety of Manicheanism, haters of the flesh....

[@megelizabeth9492]

The very modern separation between science, philosophy, magic, and religion, is something that Esoterica talks about a lot.

[@fragileomniscience7647]

My fucking god that doesn't exist... What kind of magic are you talking about? That nonsense is fake.

[@Ahmed-ef6ss]

@@fragileomniscience7647 It is ridiculous isnt it

[@5kr3aminMunk33]

@@fragileomniscience7647 Magick is the study of self, not some supernatural voodoo shit

[@vincemcmahonreadskoran3120]

@@5kr3aminMunk33 ooh so it's some esoteric knowledge the rest of us aren't hip to yet. Spirituality is just hipster religion

[@5kr3aminMunk33]

@@vincemcmahonreadskoran3120 It's literally just you studying yourself, so if you're unable to do that then I guess that's on you

[@Sprite_525]

“Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” That idea has helped me understand how the ancient thinkers viewed occultism, basically as ‘an advanced technology’, which is why so many of them saw occultism as morally bad sometimes or good other times - cuz technology isn’t intrinsically positive morally

[@123100ozzy]

Mysticism was the first try at science.

[@HolldollMcG]

This is how my electrical engineer husband explains our induction stove. It's basically magic.

[@abdallahwesamba6821]

Yess....IAM actually of such inclination, I don't really view it as something bad but rather a result of deeper understanding of the astrological bodies and how they directly affect us,life and indeed everything in nature, if the moon can control sea tide, do we really believe there are no aspects of us it doesn't touch?...so if one learns to harness that power is where the line is drawn!!.... I guess just like betting wins, if let loose inthe end it destroys society because others my misuse and who knows what that might lead to!!!. But it's interesting stuff if you get to grasp it.

[@Monkofmagnesia]

I have a BA in Religious Studies and am a proud subscriber to your channel. Thumb Up for another great lesson. Good job on editing as well.

[@LetsTalkReligion]

Thanks man!

[@natureswrath7665]

How much work does it take to make it into a religious studies class? I've considered it as an option but don't have any knowledge on how to do so.

[@vannakinder352]

Him, Khalil Andani, PhD [Islamic Studies], Grace Sung (not on KZbin but she is one of the few honest scholars I find), and Al Muqaddimah(btw his thumbnails amazing when trolling islamaphobes). You should check them out, if you ever have a chance.

[@supriyathapa682]

Hlo . Can you please provide a little detail on where you are studying and also does taking the course is good descion or not. I am girl from Nepal and is really really interested in religious belief and history and want to do lots of study and build a career in it but, I am little scared if it will be good descion or not .

[@pil_low]

@@LetsTalkReligion Sir, please make a video on Ahmadiyya / Qadiani group. They claim to be the fastest growing Islamic sect, and orthodox consider them to be disbilevers.

[@iwakura_]

This channel is awesome, i'm roman catholic and after watching your videos about Christianity i can say that i have never seen someone who was able to talk about religion respectfully and unbiased like you. Keep up the good work! 👍

[@nusaibahibraheem8183]

It's actually incredible, most people show an immense degree of bias. Either in favour of or against. This channel is such a treasure. I watched his video about where Jesus really existed and about changes in the Bible over the centuries. Am craving more of such content about the Bible but unfortunately most channels can't talk about it objectively.

[@less2worryabout]

Yes well there are many more respecfully unbiased scholars of religion here on KZbin check around religion for breakfast is a good one also how found this one.

[@ghagzor]

It's not hard when you don't have a dog in the fight

[@murtazaarif6507]

I agree, it is nice to see the new generation not being influenced by propaganda for a change but we are all still learning and we are doing it together.

[@robertjsmith]

@@ghagzor he is not bias because he understands/knows the difference between exoteric and esoteric

[@eshas5468]

This was heavily informative and eye-opening video especially to someone who is a Muslim! I've grown up with very limited knowledge about this part of Islam as it's often looked down upon from the mainstream Muslim community as backward, illiterate and Shirk. Which actually ends up closing all conversations and topics around some of these practices. Some of these practices linked to Sufism are still found in South Asian regions as well. But I've never had the chance to know the background/history of how these practices originated. Honestly very excited and intrigued to watch more of your videos!

[@Fahad-gf1wx]

It is shirk no doubt

[@adenature9378]

@@Fahad-gf1wx You don’t even know what shirk mean get out of here if you are not ready to be open to learning.

[@deechonada]

@@adenature9378 no i mean its a very gray area. Esotericism by nature is secretive and these types of things are a little bit shakey and we shouldn't mess around with them unless we know how to go around them. Theres a very wise brother at my masjid he has about 4 degrees ranging from architecture to history to philosophy. He was telling me about the original meaning of Kabal in Judaism as he used to be a jew for most of his life. Its dangerous stuff and we shouldn't really engage. Kabal is the Jewish version of esotericism by the way. He accounts that engaging in it for too long can kill you

[@snyder6954]

sorry I can't speak english berhati hatilah karena dikhawatirkan anda tersesat dalam kemusyrikan & ingatlah bahwa pedoman Islam adalah Al-qur'an & hadis. saya pernah diajari cara mengusir setan jika ia menampakkan diri & besoknya saya benar benar demam yang sangat panas, orang lain bisa menganggapnya kebetulan tapi pada hari sebelumnya saya merasa sangat sehat & itu adalah demam terpanas yang pernah saya alami seingatku kecuali aku pernah demam lebih panas saat bayi

[@sdsfgsty]

He specifically said the practice is not Islamic but you still got it wrong🤪

[@zerguioussamaabdallah8369]

Magic being forbidden in Islam is not controversial , *the Qur'an literally states that it's forbidden*

[@alexxlarx224]

Assalamou 3alayka It categorocly true that "sihr" is forbidden in islam as it lead to "chirk" (meaning worshiping another being or concepte that is not god ). The sirh or magic or as i like to call it dark psycologiy and hypnosys may have a devastating outcom on both the practitionner "saher" and the target or prey. But this kind of manipulation of reality (i am sorry for quoting the video) can be achieved in numerous ways, all depending on the wielder's intetion and clarity of mind. If the mind and the body are pure, "suffy" magic can have a number outcoms such as healing of physical and mental ailements, purification from the demonic magic, deep understanding of the universe "al ulum al khafiya", clarity and awareness and many more such metaphysical feets. The word magic has been holywooded for so many years, and it does not mean what the video games and movies depict, one cannot pull a fireball for thin air. But one can invent the lighter and lighter fluid, this in a sens is magic, only things that exist CAN be turned into something else. The laws of thermodynamics can never be broken in any means; (Hey there is still a lot of wiggle room, you after all are reading this on as very powerfull magical device) All i mean to say is that magic is not really as stupid as it is in your mind, what is broken can be mended and what is a strong oak tree can be fell, although not with with your bare hands. Miracles are still possible with the power of the human brain. Just look at newyork .If that's not magic then i don't know what is. THX FOR REEAAADING HAVE A BLESSED DAY SPELL ON ME $$$$$$$$$$$$$

[@edenhart7313]

@@alexxlarx224 your thinking maybe right in a way as you try to deviate in a positive view of it. But what has been forbidden is stated in the Quran and will be taken as is the law set by god. The reason has been given by itself in the term 'Shirik' and has been put as the highest form of sin that even god doesn't forgive. That aside if you do research in the word 'Magic' itself, it will appear in many different countries and in different languages in almost similar pronunciation and connotation. The word 'magic' will always mean and derive from the word 'demon' and 'way' or 'technique'. As you have said sufism mysticism may also be seen as magic but it actually isnt. Using the words from Quran itself has its own 'power' given by god to one who prays and ask from him as He is the all merciful and the bestower. When it comes to magic even though God wills one his powers that he asks for even if it's from Demons. You have to acknowledge that the one the magician is asking for power from is from a demon and not god. Do note that the magician doesn wield the powers by himself. He is actually contractually summoning and using the help from a Jin or demon and unseen by normal sight it is seen as magic.

[@freedomspeech8578]

Magic is forbidden ......terrorism is NOT

[@zerguioussamaabdallah8369]

@@freedomspeech8578 ma boy still living in 2001

[@zerguioussamaabdallah8369]

@@alexxlarx224 if learning magic includes connection with the Jinn then it's haram

[@camellkachour4112]

When I was very young my grandfather told me that there was some hidden science in Islam. When my grandfather died, his wife (who was his second wife, not my grandmother) gave me a manuscript written by the father of my grandfather written, in 1923, probably near Tlemcen (west of Algeria). I don't read arabic, thus I am not able to say what it contains (and I didn't share it with no one). This manuscript is full of strange tables which contains arabic letters, and some other geometrical drawing. When I listen to you, I wonder what kind of things interested him ! I cannot imagine that this was occultism ! My grandfather was close to Tariqas related to the work of Ibn Arabi (Seydina Mohiedin).

[@Nozarks1]

Sounds fascinating. Perhaps a high level student of Ibn Arabi is a good person to show it to.

[@shoonnya]

Why not create a high quality scan and share with experts/world? Also, perhaps you should donate it to a museum so it can be preserved for centuries by experts, rather than keeping it with yourself and letting it decay/forgotten.

[@hassansherwani8399]

Will you share the scans with me? 9

[@sarouforest]

You must go to the Sidi Boumediene mosque of Tlemcen and show it to the wise men there. Do not share with anyone else. If this document is left between the hands of the unpure heart, it will cause great harm to the corrupt heart and to the world.

[@Charlie-zd2dr]

What does the center most image mean at around 6:45

[@user-ed6jg3pw1p]

Thank you for this amazing work your presenting in this channel. Arab scholars classified (Elm Al Falak) into (Elm Al Nojoom) which is used for navigation, season determination plantation and fishing timings, (Elm Al Tanjeem) which is the power of the planets and stars, predicting the future and some aspects of magic. So the first one is allowed and the second is forbidden.

[@javedyusufzai363]

You can sugarcoat this simple satanic weapon called magic as complex and mysterious but the quran is clear and free of mystery. Stop complicating and creating mysteries. Sufi shia and others that looked for mystery in Islam are now cursed. You people can't digest the Quran's clear commands such as prayer charity and fasting

[@Xaviergonzalez85]

@@atk97 there's a sufi terrorist organization in Iraq called "army of the men of Naqshbandi order" and a sufi terrorist organization in Somalia called ahlus sunnah wal jamaah.

[@prenom8793]

@@atk97 what the link betwinc occultism and science

[@prenom8793]

@@atk97 this who bombs and kill innocent people are people like you

[@nghalioun]

This is GOLD! God bless you for the huge work. Can't wait for the next episode.

[@blackwolf4417]

as a muslim, thanks for this informative non biased presentation.

[@wakeupnow2224]

Be Carefull brother you know shir is forbidden it was not a muslim who did that anyone who does it goes out of islam , be Carefull if you look on 15:40 you wil see god spelled backwards estahfirrullah wat a evil things

[@ibrav7979]

@@wakeupnow2224 Ok fundamentalist

[@aman-hl9re]

@@wakeupnow2224 its looks backward because of it is like a stamp

[@samo4lyf]

Any delving in shirk goes against the core tenets of islam which would then not be called "Islamic esoteric occult"

[@user-cq8hw3ni7g]

@@wakeupnow2224 now you are kufr .

[@salmanrana]

The magic lies in your narration. So well reasearched and articulated!

[@jaobyeden4143]

I love this channel, delving into the obscure and mysterious beliefs and practices of our ancestors is just wonderful.

[@soulsunderseige4946]

Check out leak project.

[@fragileomniscience7647]

You mean adults being occupied with fantasies and nonsense they would kill for?

[@schorpioen7466]

@@fragileomniscience7647 you would have been the same in that day and age

[@jaobyeden4143]

@@fragileomniscience7647 I'm a minor. You think history is "nonsense people would kill for"? Seek help

[@gh0rochi363]

@@fragileomniscience7647 bro you aren’t cool getting on every comment and basically telling that your atheist without actually saying it. We get it you win just stop.

[@DreamBelief]

My husband and much of his (now our) family are from Saudi. You can still find loads of people practising invocation etc using djinn. When I lived in Malaysia it was common to find a similar kind of belief in rural areas (with differences from different folklore etc)

[@Isnotreal42]

jesus christ loves you find refuge in his warmth

[@sunnyday3971]

​@@Isnotreal42Allah loves you so much. Stop worshiping a man who slept, wept, ate, felt ill, excreted his urine and faeces, suffered by the hand of man and according to you - died. God is above these trivial human afflictions.

[@StarstreamJester]

​@@sunnyday3971He is not being tolerant but neither are you. Christians are also people of the book.

[@LVXMagick]

This has made my entire week. While it may not be everyone's thing, I have been hoping you would do talks on occultism. Deepest Gratitude! 🙏😊

[@ghassankalmoni4435]

Interesting background atmosphere with candle lights and all ready for the deep stuff of delving into the otherside beyond the Vail. Love your programmers with the right cool voice for exploring and explaining religion and beyond into the occult. I do get quite relaxed. Thank you.

[@visionplant]

Insane how this is the sort of stuff I've been interested in for ages but only now is there an actual English-language video covering it

[@Zed-Head]

My exact thought, I wouldn't even know where to begin when researching names/topics with the pronunciations and lack of English people covering this stuff

[@kintsugihabits403]

@@Zed-Head Same!

[@marta9649]

Google Krasi Attasio

[@mahastikia9676]

I am at a loss of praise words! Loved it! Can't wait for the rest. Keep doing what you do. May Allah bless you 🌹

[@Atlaslean]

so exciting!!! thank you for the knowledge in the categorized, unbiased, easy to understand way. Love your work!

[@liquidoxygen819]

Those beliefs about the Arabic and Hebrew alphabets also remind me of the conceptions/magical connotations that surrounded the runes in Germanic culture and ogham in Celtic culture; the Japanese idea of "Kotodama" also seems related.

[@MK-gm2mq]

Your background looks amazing.. You are literally my favourite youtuber now... The kind of effort that goes into these videos thankyou sir

[@LetsTalkReligion]

Thank you very much!

[@muhammadfaizanjawed9307]

Your pronunciations of Arabic words are so on point! Loved it bro

[@HurairaHerbals]

Thanks so much for bringing up this topic! I'm an Islamic Herbalist and i've come across some things in my practice which I had to ask my sheikh about.. He wasnt too sure of the answer whether it was permissable or not and had to ask a few other people. I decided I needed to know more myself and make my own decisions but I don't have the patience to go through the arabic sources (I can read/write/speak arabic fluently, although slowly) so the sources you provided are just gold. Also, I want to thank you for the respect you've shown on how you dealt with the haram/halal aspect of this. Magic is haram, but there is definitely nuance and you've explained that well. Thank you!

[@SignofJonahYunis.Jesus.Warrior]

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[@TerribleShmeltingAccident]

I will never understand how man can say if something is "permissible" or not. To answer that question is to proclaim that you know the will of God, an arrogant and blasphemus proclamation to say the least

[@muslimcrusader3085]

@@TerribleShmeltingAccident We know the will of God through revelations from the prophets and the revealed word of God.

[@pomegranateorange7450]

@@TerribleShmeltingAccident interesting point!

[@Nozarks1]

Anything that helps people is permissible, anything that hurts people isn’t permissible

[@ibrahimchowdhury9779]

I really appreciate you going out of your way to not only name the title of the video appropriately (i.e. Islamicate instead of Islamic) and explaining the rationale for doing so. Great video and great content. 👍🏽

[@javedyusufzai363]

You can sugarcoat this simple satanic weapon called magic as complex and mysterious but the quran is clear and free of mystery. Stop complicating and creating mysteries. Sufi shia and others that looked for mystery in Islam are now cursed. You people can't digest the Quran's clear commands such as prayer charity and fasting.

[@ayushmaanchoudhary3578]

@@javedyusufzai363 islam is itself pagan

[@silentbyte196]

@@ayushmaanchoudhary3578 No, we worship one distinct God.

[@thesixthgodhand]

@@ayushmaanchoudhary3578 no surprise that's coming from a hindu

[@user-lp9vz6lu3t]

​@@silentbyte196 that god which neither your prophet or you know of the first amd last enlightened person i think in islam is mohhamad

[@toffeem944]

Thank you for all the efforts went into this one.

[@torbicomihya]

Can’t wait for the next episode 🙌 I love your work! Greetings from Bosnia & Herzegovina 🙏

[@pierremontiel1590]

Another great video ! It’s rare to find consistent quality videos and you keep them coming.

[@laylaoresme6704]

This is one of the best channels on KZbin. Thank you so much.

[@rickyfitness252]

Layla can you ores me?

[@laylaoresme6704]

@@rickyfitness252 this made me laugh 🥲

[@optionvice8926]

Truly is

[@ericsmith1801]

By the way, the psychologist Carl Jung wrote an 800 page book on alchemy. He analyzed dreams of his patients that filled an entire.book on the subject of alchemy alone.

[@magnuscritikaleak5045]

Hi Eric are you a Cathar? I am a Basilidean Gnostic.

[@ericsmith1801]

@@magnuscritikaleak5045 You don't offend me if you call me a Cathar. I like the Gnostic genesis story.

[@ghazanhussain2070]

I have read Jung's books extensively

[@csilicsador5780]

Thank you for making this series, very exciting topic, cant wait for the more detailed episodes

[@Lookacademy]

This channel is a gem! Thank you for your work and dedication!

[@musamusashi]

Informative and balanced as usual, good work Filip.

[@uxoriousss]

Note: "Magic" involving God isn’t considered magic, it’s simply called "dua" aka supplication, magic is far more dark than that

[@toneyfox6328]

Lies prayer is confessing and giving thanks and worship to the Father, magic is using seducing spirits etc n the word speaks on these practices and considered an abomination to the Father

[@uxoriousss]

@@toneyfox6328 Are you Christian ? If yes then, it’s different in Islam just so you know

[@gourmetchenchen1390]

Still Magic from a materialistic point of view

[@bablo82]

@@uxoriousss I'm sorry but I will have to agree with the christian brother here, dua is prayer, magic is not, there is no such thing as 'good' magic in islam. If something unexplainable happens after you make a dua, that is called a miracle, not magic. As the brother said, magic is relying on the power of spirits/jinn to do things for you which is blatant shirk. Relying on anything other than the Almighty God is shirk. Anyone who claims magic as some part of islam is making a major mistake. Please be careful of what you say about islam, otherwise you might drive away more people from it.

[@uxoriousss]

@@bablo82 I quoted the word magic for a reason, obviously it’s not magic, you misunderstood what I said, any form of magic is forbidden

[@karpuzir]

Thank you Filip. Youve outdone yourself again. Editing is always great to look at but most importantly the information provided is very exciting for a history geek like myself. Salam

[@rizj]

Superb video! Just caught it now. Looking forward to the rest of the series! Thanks Filip!

[@viracocha03]

Very glad i found this channel, i had no idea how much religion in general interested me. I personally do not follow any religion but i am finding it extremely interesting.

[@mercytomankind9803]

I invite you to read the Quran. You'll be glad you did. Regards!

[@lets_wrapitup]

If you do happen to listen to the person on top of me I strongly recommend checking out Quran centric before hand or after if you read something you want addressed or elaborated on

[@jean-mariegarese7793]

Excellent job, could we hope an episode 2 upon this topic? Regards, JM.

[@matthewmead2374]

It's nice to see your channel focuses so much on the Islamic world as it is very interesting to learn about. Much of the information I've been exposed to since childhood has had a judeo Christian bias but I have always been fascinated by the Islamic world. It's unfortunate that so many people here in North America where I live have a very limited and often incorrect understanding of Islam and Islamaphobia is very real.

[@ThEsiLhOuEtT3]

I'm curious, what did the judeo Christian bias look like?

[@Kellycreator]

Same in U.K. I’ve always felt fortunate my school taught us about all religions. Lack of understanding of each other’s religions creates fear. I find Islam mostly beautiful and respectful. People sun Mohamed for having a child bride but ignore the abduction and rape in the bible.

[@sillycookie]

​@@kalebwhite5103 abduction, rape, incest, enslavement, child sacrifice, child abuse, public executions, genocides, tortures....there's a lot in there, dude.

[@Sam-shushu]

Great work. This is fascinating stuff. It's a startling window into a side of the past that was hugely important to the people that lived it, but that we tend to disregard.

[@YaGARuD3boY]

You are an amazing human being for covering this subject!

[@gilgamesh1148]

Great work and you did a fine work on the subject it was very interesting watching it thank you for your hard work

[@sabririhab9383]

when you spoke about the letters of the Arabic language and their potential power, it also remined me of the Quran how some verses starts with random sequences of letters that are still unexplained.

[@FitPatton]

God reveals the Quranic scriptures through the Archangel Jibreel as helping Prophet Muhammad SAW reciting. The miracles of Quran is that its only in Arabic, but being memorized by Muslims worldwide by heart for the last 1400+ years.

[@astroflyinsights]

Sam Gerrans' explanation makes excellent sense

[@prenom8793]

They're not random

[@ChaseBlackmoon]

Yes, I read from a scholar that said: every book has its mysteries, and the initials of the Koran are its mystery, or something to that effect. I forgot his name unfortunately, but you should be able to find the quote.

[@nadiamontasser5820]

Exactly. The power of the letters in explained in Shams El Maarif, which is banned in the Arab world. There is no wonder the arab world has become retarded nowadays. We have been deprived of our own heritage and sciences and powers. The western invasions have ripped us of our heritage and stolen our knowledge. They also planted some retards as religious figures who basically dictate us on what we can or cannot study or think about. It’s all so clear now.

[@kewlboi5420]

I cant wait for all your videos on this topic, thank you so much for giving all this a spotlight

[@Saracen786]

Amazing- eagerly awaiting the next instalment on this subject 👏

[@marion6763]

♥...loved it! Can't wait for the next episodes!

[@harrietharlow9929]

This is fascinating and I, too, anticipate upcoming videos with great interest.

[@ram_bam]

This channel is a masterpiece. The art, the music, the cadence, the rigor... simply incredible.

[@CharlieSolis]

Heck yes!! I’m so excited for the episodes you said are coming!!!

[@nadiamontasser5820]

Can’t thank you enough for this video. It enlightened me in so many ways and answered many of the questions I have been asking myself lately. Thank you.

[@MagicMilbow]

Tack för en spännande video. Det är otroligt lugnande och spännande att lyssna på dina videos. Jag tror att ditt sätt att föra dialog kring och behandla ämnet religion är viktigt för dagens samhälle. Även för oss nyfikna ateister.

[@user-hh2is9kg9j]

Arabic Alchemy has among it proper chemistry, like all sorts of distillations and methods of separating substances and so on. So it was kind of primitive Chemistry.

[@davidgibson5756]

True of just about all alchemy… it is the root of modern chemistry. At least that is my understanding of things

[@mananjain7495]

Taken from Persian translations of Sanskrit texts

[@user-hh2is9kg9j]

@@mananjain7495 All civilizations take some knowledge from that before it, even Greek civilization when you dig in it you find that much of the knowledge they have originated in Babylon and Ancient Egypt. The Persian civilization itself (antiquity) drove most of its knowledge from earlier Semitic civilizations Like Babylonian and Aramaic. Having said that, Arabic Alchemy has much roots in Greek traditions than Indian.

[@harisjutt69]

@@mananjain7495 Sanskrit? you really dragged sanskrit into chemistry my guy😂 you guys should focus on pseudo astrology

[@Sublime_Rooftop]

@@harisjutt69 pseudo astrology wtf is that?

[@Me-ks2fr]

Can’t wait for the series. This video was great!

[@121nouran]

This was so cool to watch and somehow very timely for me, really interesting topic and i am excited for the rest of the videos. Thanks for the really good work you’re doing 🙏🏻 salams

[@jaybristowe2346]

Another great video, so much food for thought and topics for more study.

[@Ibrahims14]

Wow This subject is rarely talked about.. Although I’m Arabic, I learned a lot from this and from your deep studies and lectures I loved this introduction. Thank you so much 🙏🏼 In my view, there are 2 reasons that black magic is prohibited in islam. The first reason is because people started using it to harm others. The other reason is because learning magic leads gradually to polytheism and eclipse us from our essence. It seems that Islam prohibits things only because they harm ourselves/others or eclipse us from our essence. This is just a reflection, I might be wrong. 🌷 Edit: Most Sufi muslims avoid magic because they know it can be a veil especially to the weak heart.

[@Peanuts76]

i love Sufism interpretation of religion and those veil that cover us to God/Allah 🙏🙏🙏

[@jbcom2416]

Actually, just to get started with black magic you first need to commit shirk against Allah and then can harm others. In other words you first shut the door to your creator, then to others around you.

[@jbcom2416]

@@smurfo3000 to learn more about magic please watch Sheih Yasir Qadhi. To learn more about halal interaction with jinns please watch Sheih Ben Halima Abderrauf.

[@ahmedshakeel17]

@@smurfo3000 black magic is Haram regardless of whether you use it for good or bad. There's no concept of halal magic or Haram magic. It's simply a sin in Allah's eyes. Period.

[@pomegranateorange7450]

İ agree

[@anasayuri714]

Wow that was such a great video. Definitely will have to replay! Thank you!

[@roseannaftorres4070]

This video was great. Thank you for the introduction. I look forward to the next video.

[@icysaracen3054]

Many pre Islamic tradition survived in many Islamic culture such as voodoo in Muslim West Africa and zorastrian celebrations in Iran and Afghanistan. Similar to how Mexican Catholics celebrate Aztec traditions.

[@conspiracy1914]

its not islamic. just because in islam they address this doesnt mean its from islam. its prohibited in islam. i was told those who participate in such actions have no part in the here after. hell fire is there end. islam tells you how to deal with it. because quran came to humans and jinns. i heard a conspiracy theory that elites does these things . it is believable since they worship satan and promote all over media. satan is a jinn.

[@icysaracen3054]

@@conspiracy1914 Bro, I didn't say it was Islamic; I noted that some traditions survived. Read a book, you imbecile.

[@als1438]

@@conspiracy1914 Summoning Jinn/ demons is definitely prohibited because it harms you and others as well. But if you looked at this video carefully you can see that early Muslims called many things sihr which are actually not evoking Jinn but just science or other practices like dream interpretation and making dhikr i.e. evoking Names of Allah in order to achieve something which are part of faith. Imagine what some Muslims back in the past would think of us walking with our mobile phones talking and seeng other people on screen and then make photos they would definately blame us for sihr 😂

[@blacksheep6174]

@@conspiracy1914 read what he said again

[@conspiracy1914]

@@als1438 at first maybe they think its some sort of magic but if you explain it, people will understand. sihr goes for black magic and asking favors of the jinn. doing scientific stuff and sihr is very different.

[@khuzemasaifee4087]

I have graduated with Masters in Islamic Sciences. I mean when I say that the content presented by you is very well researched. بارك الله فيك وفي علمك!

[@nios7700]

assalamu alaykum brother i would like to ask you a questions جزاك الله خيرا is it okay or prohibited to look at these talismans throughout a screen ?

[@khuzemasaifee4087]

@@nios7700 You have to get permission.

[@nios7700]

@@khuzemasaifee4087 can you elaborate please

[@owlkiyo]

Hey guys im struggling with my faith, so many things in the Quran are not scientifically true. Do i need to just ignore it? Or when for example the sun resting in muddy waters is there a meaning to that?

[@asmakitto]

yet another amazing video and a captivating topic. Can't wait for the deep dives on each one of these ♥.

[@Qgg9]

Great work brother. Can’t wait. Keep up the good work. Thank you have amazing day

[@adamq8216]

Please do a in depth video about Pseudo-dionysius 🙏 btw, an Absolute treasure this channel is 🙏 you have really done a good job

[@harrietharlow9929]

This is absolutely fascinating. I look forward to future episodes.

[@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200]

Nietzsche's Views on Islam kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6iYmXqPrKljadU

[@javedyusufzai363]

You can sugarcoat this simple satanic weapon called magic as complex and mysterious but the quran is clear and free of mystery. Stop complicating and creating mysteries. Sufi shia and others that looked for mystery in Islam are now cursed. You people can't digest the Quran's clear commands such as prayer charity and fasting

[@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200]

@@javedyusufzai363 "The Quran is free of mystery" so do you reject every Tafsir ever written? If not why do we need Tafsir and why do we need Hadiths?

[@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200]

@@javedyusufzai363 Why did Allah say in Surat Al Qaf "None will understand this except those whom Allah guides" ? You are repeating fake propaganda from institutionalized people who want to control you. The Quran says the opposite of what you say. Allah never said that at all lol that's from men who want worldly power 100%.. Bring proof from the Quran of your claims

[@harrietharlow9929]

@@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200 Simple. I'm not Muslim, even if I do veil.

[@EM-ez1td]

Truly impressed by your Arabic pronunciation. Very close to sounding like a native speaker. Takes great dedication to be able to pronounce these words as amazingly as you’re doing. Genuinely amazing

[@AhmedLone99]

I recently discovered your channel and i gotta say your work is amazing man i really appreciate it.

[@mt000mp]

i think you should do a research about javanese/indonesian islamic shamanism its a syncretic belief with folk religion , hindu , bhuddism and islam

[@gsw8459]

Greetings from 🇸🇷Suriname👋...Salaam songko Suriname

[@johnfran3218]

When things were at their very worst: 2 Suns, Cross in the sky, 2 comets will collide = don`t be afraid - repent, accept Lord`s Hand of Mercy. Scientists will say it was a global illusion. Beware - Jesus will never walk in flesh again. After WW3 - rise of the “ man of peace“ from the East = Antichrist - the most powerful, popular, charismatic and influential leader of all time. Many miracles will be attributed to him. He will imitate Jesus in every conceivable way. Don`t trust „pope“ Francis = the False Prophet - will seem to rise from the dead - will unite all Christian Churches and all Religions as one. One World Religion = the seat of the Antichrist. Benedict XVI is the last true pope - will be accused of a crime of which he is totally innocent. "Arab uprising will spark global unrest - Italy will trigger fall out" "Many events, including ecological upheavals, wars, the schism in My Church on Earth, the dictatorships in each of your nations - bound as one, at its very core - will all take place at the same time." The Book of Truth

[@kenadhitya]

Kejawen / Kebathiban

[@bugattibigboy532]

Hi do you know where i can find book of it ?

[@mt000mp]

@@bugattibigboy532 i dont know if this book is available in english , its called "islam kejawen" i suggest you learn about how islam enters nusantara [ malaysia, Philippines, brunei, indonesia ] then walisongo , then javanese literature and finally sufism .

[@alfialambert5777]

I wish, Adam, you participated in the Astromagia conference (Sept 17, 2021)! Academia + practitioners had their first exchange of ideas. Ghayat al-Hakim, known as Picatrix in Latin, was discused among many other exciting topics.

[@dsm5d723]

Matthew Melvin-Khoushki for a wealth of scholarship in this world. His quote that I use a lot: "Pandemics make magic great again." World Pythagoreanism is the real undercurrent of Natural Religion. It moves among monotheisms too.

[@mattbonner12]

Interesting video. Looking forward to seeing the next video in this series.

[@BridgetteBentley]

Thank you for the lack of judgment, great video!✨

[@othmansonkeir46]

اشكرك على لفظ الحروف العربية كما ينبغي لها ان تلفظ، لأنه من النادر جدا ان تجد شخص من خلفية غربية وهو ينطقها بطريقة صحيحة.

[@Francois15031967]

I hope you'll soon make an episode about Talmud. Thanks for your great work and cristal clear explanations.

[@barnardthomas1411]

Seconded. A dive into Talmudic studies would be helpful and entertaining.

[@user-ty6do8yz4l]

Islam is one of THEE most important links in Anunnagi studies. The Templars got SO MUCH Occult information from the Islamic world.

[@greeneyedblueneptunian]

Amazing video, very informative.. I'm a native arabic speaker and your pronunciation is ON POINT!!!!!! also as a kid that grow up in an islamic household.... I have to tell you that your researches and content are amazing as well.. thank you for your hard work and keep going!!

[@davelauerman6865]

I have come to rely on Philip for clear honest thinking combined with excellent scholarship. I am an atheist, but I love this stuff.

[@rickyfitness252]

You're not thoe.

[@sakogekchyan7366]

That’s good. Whether we are atheists or subscribe to the belief in some higher power, we can acknowledge that channels like this at least encourage mutual respect and understanding the religious perspective in a way that is not demeaning, condescending or treating it like some dead antiquated remnants of the past. I do believe in a primordial mind or intelligence that brought this world of ours into being, but my understanding of “God“ is less informed by Judeo Christian thinking and more informed by Neoplatonism and Advaita Vedanta.

[@myowngenesis]

You're committing adultery to atheism by infatuating yourself with the other side, the truest truth of the dawkinsian dogma sayeth thus. Seriously though, I applaud your curiosity and your compassionate approach at these things. If only more atheists and theists were thus, we'd have a better world...

[@channel55andaboxoftissues16]

Athiesm doesnt depend on the materialist philosophy.

[@TheSuperrapper20]

Hey Dave You’re close bro. you just realize half of the truth. Atheism is rejecting the existence of a deity-creator existing as an object within or outside of the universe, depends on who you’re talking to. Half the battle is won. The other half you need to complete the truth is contained the within Muslim declaration of faith “There is no God, only Allah” Allah is the highest and only truth. Beyond existence and non existence. Not a God somewhere in the universe. Peace to you 🙏🏾

[@efron2545]

This is brilliant, I like your research, also put aliester crowly, Thelma and the golden dawn on your to do list.

[@zeeshanshaikh4508]

Love this channel. Keep up the good work 👍🏼

[@SunchildeTarot]

This was so good. I can't wait yo hear more. Thank you.

[@drcoco2k]

I can't wait for each of these things to have their own episodes.

[@Crowniecrown]

The artwork for this stuff is beautiful.

[@_plastikman]

You can pick from Pinterest

[@kayleeadams5792]

Such a soothing voice you have! It makes me sleepy but then I’m too interested in what you say to fall asleep. I guess I treat your channel sort of like bedtime stories lol

[@alicegoggins3730]

Love this thank you 🙏 can’t wait to watch your more detailed videos episodes ❤😊

[@Ejeby]

6:05 famous writers 21:00 stellar rays 30:00 science of Arabic letters

[@ODaher11]

Before any Muslim begets the impression that this is a blasphemous subject, please look into our Quran a little deeper to understand how occultism, alchemy, science, and magic were addressed in many different verses and was a tradition amongst some of the prophets, the leading example being King Solomon, who spoke the language of the birds, controlled the jinn, had the power to summon the wind, and understood the language of the ants. Moreover, if we want to learn the finest knowledge from the best of the Islamic scholars, we should look towards the forefathers of modern science who are from the Islamic golden age. These are the scholars within the Islamic world who set the standard with breakthrough discoveries and advancements, who are a powerhouse of knowledge, and wisdom. Peace and blessings unto all.

[@abdulhafidhswaleh1174]

King solomon power was a blessing from god.he didnt use magic

[@ODaher11]

@@abdulhafidhswaleh1174 absolutely, I am not negating that, but he understood magic and how it worked.

[@mball6676]

true but dont forget that all forms of magic and divination are forbidden in islam

[@valardohaeris2042]

I am not arguing that it's blasphemy or not because I don't really care But what you just said simply isn't true . Solomon in islam wasn't just a king like in the old testament he was a prophet who done miracles not magic. That's the islamic view of solomon . Islam like the other abrahamic religions dont condone magic But yes there is an occult and magic books and rituals in islamic history like Shams al-Ma'arif or elawfaq But that doesn't mean it's accepted by islam or lets say mainstream islam .

[@ODaher11]

@@valardohaeris2042 I don’t think you properly understood my comment. Solomon was both a prophet and a king and is referred to as both in the Quran. I chose to use the title king instead of prophet, but that isn’t relevant to the point that I was making, which was that there are a lot of misunderstood topics and subjects in modern and conventional Islam that are inherent within the religion. Take for instance the story of Moses and his staff, the Egyptian magicians tried to mimic Gods miracles with false magic. Their magic was of course dissolved by Allahs might that he showed through Moses. So in essence I am trying to point to how the world of the supernatural was a common thing amongst God and his prophets.

[@JG-mt3rp]

What an absolute treat! Love this content

[@ElectrickDragon]

Very awesome! Thanks for sharing this with us!!

[@161julia]

Bismi Llāhi r-Raḥmāni r-Raḥīm. May Allāh (SWT) bless you for this great video.

[@NicholasMoskov1]

Great video, I would really love to see a video about the book of Enoch & the Ethiopian tewehedo orthodox church! you're channel has so much great content

[@Jazzgriot]

Thanx such fascinating history I can't wait for the next episode.

[@heathenwizard]

Looking forward to your new videos on this subject, they sound super interesting.

[@abdulsayyed2231]

Accept my heartfelt gratitude towards the wonderful work. Most of us listen and enjoy but only a few can feel the pain and effort that has been put into presenting such a piece of work. Keep it up. Not many people dare to touch these subjects especially when it comes to talking about Islamicate Occult Sciences as you put it beautifully. Indeed it still exists and unfortunately is practiced very commonly in every Islamic society. And those who do it do not even leave the quranic verses aside but use them to achieve their goal. When we read Quran the only message we find is that it was a message to be revealed to every human being through the prophet. And it was not to be used in Islam magic as it is found in these occult sciences. But Different sciences ( like the knowledge of stars, heavenly bodies, and science behind the letters ) when got mixed with religion we ended up losing the real gist of the religion and started using its verses to achieve very petty goals like how to create enmity between two people or create love between a couple or how to destroy some one's business, etc. Having said that, a religion whether Ibrahimic or non Ibrhaimic monotheist or polytheist all carry one thing in common and that is it deals with the secrets of life and the formation universe and of human beings that is how we are composed ( A body contains the soul and being) and how to use its potentials.

[@pomegranateorange7450]

@See Ease why would we do this? Please give the resourcea

[@samasda]

@See Ease what

[@aliceinwonderland1574]

Wonderful video. I love your calm, rational, extremely well organized and researched presentations. Can you tell us about your background? Are you a native Arabic speaker? Where were you educated?

[@teoilcucciolo6230]

the way im inspired always after watching ur videos is amazing. this one in particular. Thank you

[@mentimental]

Thank you so much for this video. I had heard references to this history in a university course but really wanted a wider introduction. Glad the youtube algorithm brought me here.

[@rickycollins4550]

That was excellent. Thank you. Not only did I learn a lot, I also managed to spark a potential topic I could work on for my PhD thesis.

[@christopherlees1134]

That's actually pretty cool. It's got to be a difficult decision to finally decide on a thesis topic.

[@rickycollins4550]

@@christopherlees1134 Especially for studies in religion. Walking on the floor of those who came before, it's tough to find something new. But this topic blew ones mind.

[@SignofJonahYunis.Jesus.Warrior]

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[@swaters5127]

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[@rickycollins4550]

@@SignofJonahYunis.Jesus.Warrior thanks, I appreciate the link. Very useful!

[@drangelapuca]

Great video, Filip! I appreciate how you framed the discussion and defined the employed terminology. I'd love to do a collaboration in this series. 😊

[@Crystals_and_Witchcraft]

Love your channel too. I'm subbed. I Consider myself a Witch (male) of the craft with combined aspects - High Ceremonial Magick. I'm continuing surprised you don't slide right over into practicing as your already so knowledgeable and U would do great. Example= Dr. Stephen Skinner. Hope you obtain your collaboration with this guy will be most interesting.

[@King-pp4eq]

I enjoyed watching this so much , everything was beautifully explained and very well said . I subscribed immediately, 🙏