Intu Watford - Scenic Elan Lifts, but has anything changed?

[@MichalM]

Whoops! Apologies for the spelling mistake at 0:30!

[@miahaskurti4539]

Its Sad These Lifts Lost Their Pre Doors

[@MichalM]

It's a good job that the other lifts have them though!

[@marcusreid4219]

Great video Michal. I think he see through lifts are better as you can see all around you. They've got them at woking

[@MichalM]

Thanks! They are indeed. Woking has some quite rare Fujitec glass lifts, they're quite interesting.

[@liftsurfer52]

7:54 Stentorgate be like

[@MichalM]

Just a small glitch in the programming I suspect.

[@blue.light.fazbear]

These are pretty nice lifts but honestly, why in the world would anyone decide they needed to disable pre doors on these lifts? I do quite like these lifts, you get a great view of the shopping district and it is cool how you can see into the motor room partially

[@MichalM]

They are very nice lifts indeed! Rumour is going around that someone may have tripped over the lift pre dooring as they were being impatient to exit without looking.

[@blue.light.fazbear]

Michal M Ah right that must’ve been why they disabled it. That is one of the disadvantages with pre doors is it allows people to jump between the landing and the car while the lift is still in motion although fortunately most lifts tend to pre door a split second before the pre start so you’d have to do it on purpose to be able to trip over it as no one would have the chance to do it before the lift stops although quite a few old lifts like the one in my local House of Fraser (which is an old Keighley that has been partly modded but has the original controller) often opens the door as the lift starts to level making it far too easy to step out the lift before it comes to a stop, in fact you can even put your foot on the lift car while standing on the landing you’re on which isn’t that safe

[@MichalM]

@@blue.light.fazbear I see. Well there wasn't much of a problem here to be honest, they could have just set them up so they stop closer to the floor.

[@northernirishlifts]

As soon as I seen this video I knew that they lost there predoors, but at least there still nice and fast and still better than Bromley glades The glass lifts in Victoria Square Belfast used to have predoors as well but they lost them in 2012 but there ecodiscs

[@MichalM]

Yep, the Glades is on my list of places to visit, I like the Kone and the Zeta Modded Schindlers there. It's a shame these lifts lost their pre doors, I've contacted Intu Watford for further comment. Still very nice though, they're glass and still fast!

[@MichalM]

Oof who would turn off pre doors on an ecodisc?

[@northernirishlifts]

Michal M well maybe it was having problems with predoor on

[@MichalM]

@@northernirishlifts What problems lol?

[@northernirishlifts]

Michal M idk Lol

[@NCHLT]

Miconic B is such a weird controller. I really wish that these were modernised with Lester but then again. Miconic B is a rare controller so I can't complain

[@MichalM]

These lifts have been modernised. No working Schindler controllers remain unfortunately.

[@NCHLT]

@@MichalM ? I am talking about both these and the 2 tucked away lifts. Also do you remember that Miconic B controllers still exist in Croydon and Uxbridge.

[@MichalM]

@@NCHLT Oh you mean they used to have those controllers? I don't know, do you know of any engineers who used to work on these? They would know what controllers these used to have.

[@NCHLT]

@@MichalM What controllers do they have now?

[@MichalM]

@@NCHLT They would probably have installed the most advanced controller they could afford at the time of modernisation. Could literally be anything as there are a lot of controllers out there, I know TVC Ethos controllers are popular, so are Lester Controls.

[@liftsurfer52]

8:51 wtf

[@urgentkestrel7990]

Are they still running their original Shindler lift machinery?

[@MichalM]

It does not appear so.

[@ZZ9ProductionsOFFICIAL]

I know lets make lifts less efficient, that will improve things!

[@MichalM]

Indeed!

[@tylerwalsh5152]

On 23 July 2019 I went there on a very hot day

[@MichalM]

Oh nice! Did you get to see these lifts? It's air conditioned in there so not too much of a problem for lift filmers in the shopping centre! :)

[@tylerwalsh5152]

I went there on 22 Dec 2021

[@EEverything360]

Whoever thought of getting rid of the pre-doors is a complete c**t. Sorry for the language, I'm just SO angry with that shopping centre!

[@MichalM]

Don't worry about it, there may be a reason.

[@Potato7-c3g]

these lifts aren't as good without pre doors, now you have to wait ages.

[@MichalM]

Indeed! It would have been better with pre doors, however I've seen worse!

[@Potato7-c3g]

@@MichalM Yh it's not as bad as lester (see the john lewis lifts), these do still accelerate nicely.

[@MichalM]

@@Potato7-c3g Yep, and yep, I agree! Those Lester's are AWFUL! I think I filmed but they were so inefficient and uninteresting that I haven't even uploaded the video of them yet!

[@tylerwalsh5152]

I go there on 7 June

[@MichalM]

Hope you like it!

[@tylerwalsh5152]

I go there on my birthday

[@miahaskurti4539]

These Are Nice. Go To A Previous Video Ot Ccityplanner12 Lift Tour In Watford

[@MichalM]

I've seen it! These lifts are nice, are you planning on filming these?

[@miahaskurti4539]

@@MichalM I Know

[@MichalM]

@@miahaskurti4539 Are you going to come to Watford and film them at some point?

[@miahaskurti4539]

@@MichalM No

[@robloxfan4271]

tht kid in the background is annoying tbh

[@robloxfan4271]

and why call it mall as in the uk we call it shopping center

[@MichalM]

@@robloxfan4271 I suppose it's because there are 2 shopping levels.

[@MichalM]

Which kid?

[@tylerwalsh5152]

I go there on 28 May

[@MichalM]

Sorry for the late reply. How was your trip? Did you enjoy the lifts?

[@tylerwalsh5345]

I go there on 18 June

[@MichalM]

How was it? Were the lifts working?

[@tylerwalsh5152]

Yes

[@tylerwalsh5152]

I go there on 12 November

[@tylerwalsh5345]

I go there on 24 October