Ffs is the real reason they got rid of co anglers.
@acme953826 күн бұрын
Bingo
@mdoc14026 күн бұрын
Exactly 💯
@Tmann443726 күн бұрын
Yep
@Co-anglerken26 күн бұрын
Isn’t the co-angler the only ones buying tackle anymore? Lure companies can’t survive on minnow sales and jig heads.
@donkimmel937526 күн бұрын
Yes the Everyday Angler is responsible for the majority of all Fishing related tackle sales.
@acme953826 күн бұрын
Bassmasters press release on this was an insult…. I’m so done with that clown show.
@BlobRob78726 күн бұрын
It is a clown show. The people who own and run Bassmaster are clueless.
@brianpierson770826 күн бұрын
@@BlobRob787yep just as clueless as these yuppies called co anglers. Who don’t have the common sense or knowledge to know the rules or fish hell you can catch fish throw a C-Rig and drag it all day with a 8’ rod I dump a 150 size spool and with the way the rules read they can not put you in the obese with no fish and can’t stop you from casting forward you have to be a man and step up know your rights and rules and don’t back down. In 45 years I have watched everything go to shit because of people scared, stupid, ignorant, or just plain out ignorant of the truth and facts
@brianpierson770826 күн бұрын
I been dun with that shit show for 5 years now
@glynnreid121725 күн бұрын
But BASS is still the best show in town.
@Millennium-st5vs26 күн бұрын
The fact they lied their ass's off over the topic proves who is making their decisions IS a huge problem for their future.
@robertdtimmerman26 күн бұрын
Only 1 thing will fix Bassmaster….Boycott their tournaments! All the pros complaining isn’t going to change a thing until Bassmaster is hit where it counts…..in their wallet.
@dannyhardy87826 күн бұрын
Randy- you’re 100% correct. I’ve heard it from every co-angler I’ve had in the past 3 years. At Dale Hollow- my second day coangler called me the night before- doing the where are we meeting, time, etc… Then he ask if I was using FFS- I said I have it, Im using it, but not its not part of my pattern. I ask him why he ask- he said he wasn’t going to float around out in the lake behind a guy again all day that was staring at a screen. I assured him I wasn’t doing that and I’m not going to do it- ever.
@RileyKolich26 күн бұрын
Pretty bummed to hear about this. I understand Pros would rather fish alone and maybe use FFS, however, while I fished as a Co for BASS I never felt the it was my place to complain about what my boater was doing. It's part of the gamble. It's part of learning to adjust!
@glynnreid121725 күн бұрын
A co that gets it. Good head on your shoulders Riley.
@dwainmorgan855026 күн бұрын
I wish solor bat would come out with a clip on for people that where prescriptions glasses.
@af4od0226 күн бұрын
Five years ago, Co-anglers had to pre register for all three events of a division and put down their deposit money to get a chance to participate. If you were lucky, and registered as soon as possible, you were in! Now, no one wants to participate. The fall off of co-anglers participation should be the true signal to BASS officials, that there are problems.
@jacobjohnson-hr2ip26 күн бұрын
Although I have no issues with FFS I completely agree that co angler interest has diminished because of it.
@bucknuts882426 күн бұрын
Randy you made multiple videos hating on co-anglers. Pretty much saying co-anglers should just sit in the back of the boat and not try to win
@mikewubben284426 күн бұрын
Yeah, he even said that a co-angler asked him what the plan was for the day so he could plan what to take along and Randy said it was none of his business. This fake outrage about dropping co-anglers is nothing more than Randy taking another opportunity to continue his endless whining about ffs.
@tallonormond346026 күн бұрын
The only videos of his that get views are the ones of him complaining or hating 😂😂😂😂😴😴
@Bdhgzz115buty24 күн бұрын
BASS and MLF are doomed. Can’t compete with millions of KZbin videos every day. RIP Bass and MLF 😂
@BassboatJoe24 күн бұрын
@@mikewubben2844technically it isn’t their business. Not their boat, they aren’t making the payments, they aren’t paying insurance, they arnt paying the taxes,, and they arent paying them 100% of the gas for the truck nor the boat. So I don’t blame them. AS A PREVIOUS COANGLER, we have it made in these coangler tournaments. I’m a boater now, and endure those financial payments so I understand. We take the risk of traveling with the boat, coangler don’t. If you are a coangler, you are there to learn and for a backseat ride to try and win some money. If boater wants to keep his mouth shut, sucks, but so be it. Don’t complain. It’s not your boat LOL
@mikewubben284423 күн бұрын
@@BassboatJoe which is exactly why I would never be a co-angler. Some pompous dude up front telling me it's not my business what I should bring on the boat for a day of fishing is BS. Co-anglers are spending money to enter and hours of their life to be out there too so it darn well IS their business regardless of who owns the boat. I guess it's too much trouble for some people to treat others with respect.
@KennethLong-v8h26 күн бұрын
Randy - I've been a big fan of yours since the early 80's. I always appreciated the way you fish. You will sink your boat or jump lay downs to win a tournament. That's what is missing in tournament fishing, plain ole hard work ethic. New anglers do not have to work near as hard to become pro anglers. No matter what time of year, no matter what what the weather is like, all they have to do is look down at the FFS CHEATER BOX to find fish. Accept it or not, this is the cold hard truth. Nobody should need a $100K bass boat with $5K worth of electronics to catch fish. Pro anglers and Co anglers should appreciate each other, because it is something that makes bass fishing tournaments such a unique sport. It is very obvious that the 'Politicians' at BASS hate the pro anglers, fans, and BASS members. They are selling their souls to the electronic companies and are for forgetting what made BASS so successful.
@ThreeBoysFishing26 күн бұрын
I knew the reason before even watching the video who wants to sit on the back of the boat in the middle of nowhere watching somebody catch fishing live scope what are you going to fan cast and hope you catch something. As far as a co-angler you’re there to learn not to win be respectful. It’s a learning experience for most once in a lifetime.
@ronknight786326 күн бұрын
Bullshit. Alot of co anglers know how to fish and are out there to win. Most just can't afford a boat.
@lightning284926 күн бұрын
They wanted to get rid of the co-anglers ! That’s why I don’t compete anymore ! Thanks Randy !
@bobstoops757126 күн бұрын
I was a Marshall several years ago it was an amazing learning experience. I would not want to do it now behind someone using FFS there is nothing to learn.
@glynnreid121725 күн бұрын
Closed minded people are that way.
@jeb483626 күн бұрын
I don’t like all your whining but u are 100% correct on this.
@eddiesheppard712426 күн бұрын
Well, I do agree with you on this one Randy I think you are 100% correct
@andythebliss24 күн бұрын
i was planning to start co-angling those events last year until I realized I didn’t want to spend all that money and get stuck on an FFS boat. Covid is the dumbest excuse I can think of.
@JT.Angler726 күн бұрын
Old man yells at cloud.
@MyLastCast25 күн бұрын
The pros love it. They didnt want a co on their boat anyway...
@moondog555326 күн бұрын
Bass fishing evolved into a commercial venture, driven by corporate interests to boost sales of gear and merchandise. Fishing was never meant to be competitive Fishing was originally a survival skill, not a sport, focused on sustenance rather than competition.
@edwardcowan701226 күн бұрын
I find that in our very structured and scheduled lives that fishing a tournament trail forces you to get out of your comfort zone and try new things in new places. It also helps you meet people with similar interests. In my almost 50 years of tournament fishing I’ve fished hundreds of different bodies of water in 23 different states. What little I’ve won has helped to offset that. The club I fish with has 2 lakes I’ve never fished and 3 others I’ve only fished in tournaments on the 2025 schedule. It’s hard to drive past the lake that’s 3 miles from home that has good fishing to drive a couple hours to somewhere you’ve never been.
@kalebbrewer450926 күн бұрын
No offense but Co-anglers belong in a fun league. Not the opens where guys are clawing to get to the elites
@SpookyRedz26 күн бұрын
How can the back of the boat compete with FFS ? They can not !
@glynnreid121725 күн бұрын
The co anglers competes against other co anglers. Every tournament has a winner in the back of the boat. Every pro am circuit operates like this with or without FFS.
@lgarcia83125 күн бұрын
I've fished 136 BFLs in twenty years as a co-angler and I don't believe there should be co-anglers in semi-pro and pro circuits (Elites, Opens, BPT, Invitationals, Toyota Series or NPFL). Keep them in grassroot circuits like the BFLs and ABA America Fishing Tour. BASS and MLF should consider having team tournaments where the co can control the trolling motor and fish anywhere in the boat. The team would work together and not hinder each other. Also, the circuits would have that revenue. My two cents.
@rickcordell656526 күн бұрын
Just makes it more elite
@MelGiesbrecht26 күн бұрын
How stupid does this 50 year old organization think The average angler is. It’s sad that they believe we are so gullible. Technology is inevitable but please BASS just call it what it is.
@acme953826 күн бұрын
Yeah… they’re PATHETIC
@glynnreid121725 күн бұрын
The sound of silence is coming out of every boats mouth now. Boaters are so happy now.
@bfg183626 күн бұрын
I heard about one co-angler who was shafted by a pro who pulled his kill switch and couldn’t figure it out.
@davidsedlacek385525 күн бұрын
That's absolutely hilarious. If ya know ya know.... 👍🏻
@bamatim5824 күн бұрын
This doesn’t happen very often but I 100% agree with you. Why would you fish with someone chasing open water fish when the guy in the front is intentionally keeping you off the fish? Fisherman should just stop completely supporting BASS and then see how long BASS last with just the pros supporting it.
@tobyduff358426 күн бұрын
Oh my...that is two "make no mistake about it's" this week. You better slow it down...I hope your blood pressure medicine works.
@chums10126 күн бұрын
I don’t agree with you on several things but 100% spot on w everything in this video. During Covid fishing was about the only thing to do tackle isles were bare. Such a bs excuse. I used to fish a lot of co angler events but only do a handful now in a bfl division where livescope isn’t used as much.
@slagletoby26 күн бұрын
Video Killed the Radio Start in modern day technological form.
@davidsedlacek385525 күн бұрын
Elites and Opens shouldn't have Co A. Thats why Bass nation is there!
@jackdixon453026 күн бұрын
Thanks for the information! 🐟🐟🐟🐟
@astrophysicistguy26 күн бұрын
I'll bet the pros are all high giving each other over this one! No more whining co anglers to worry about in your boat all day
@glynnreid121725 күн бұрын
FACT.
@kylefulton843926 күн бұрын
They do have a program. It’s called the BASS nation.
@1829Lola26 күн бұрын
It is interesting they let the Co's sign up and pay. then cancel it. They had to have know months ago they were going to cancel it.
@masonbrock98426 күн бұрын
Lol against all the electronic direction. But sell those glasses to get better clarity lol
@RobertAFarleyJr-jb9mk26 күн бұрын
Apples and oranges
@wciii359126 күн бұрын
I've said before, if I were a co-angler, I would just sit there and watch the pro. However, I wouldn't learn a dog gone thing by watching a guy looking at a TV screen.
@brianpierson770826 күн бұрын
RANDY YOU NEED TO COME BACK TO EARTH!!!! You have dun gone way to far off to far Now. Just like the crybabies who think we should not eat bass and that’s why there are no big bass left. Not every bass will get big no matter what you feed them to for them or where they at.
@PeterRice-lq8dz26 күн бұрын
I agree it’s got nothing to do with Covid. What a bs excuse. Even before the new sonar problem , fishing as a coangler was tough. Most of the time you were back boated like hell.
@kevinrevay419926 күн бұрын
who cares for the reasoning, they wasn't having a full field of co's the last couple years anyway. so some boaters would and wouldn't have co's. now its a level field for all boaters. co anglers "RIP"
@Tmann443726 күн бұрын
I was reading that article and could not believe they blamed it on covid! What a joke Bassmaster is and always will be until they just get rid of FFS. I dont know anymore Randy, at least we have the NPFL
@glynnreid121725 күн бұрын
Another circuit with no co anglers. How uninformed the general public is.
@donkimmel937525 күн бұрын
The Toyota's are Advertised as a option for Triple-A Fishing. The five divisions feature reasonable travel and great fisheries, so there’s an option for just about everyone looking to get in on the action, be it on the pro side or as a *Strike King co-angler* Toyota and BFL Co-Angler Program is Sponsored by Strike King...The BFL Boater has to bring a CO for 2025 no boat on boat draws any more.
@randymiller500826 күн бұрын
I agree 💯👍
@Bassmaster125626 күн бұрын
So Solar Bat made some sunglasses for looking at your FFS?
@glynnreid121725 күн бұрын
Your hate for co anglers have been passed with your hate for BASS. Fact.
@RonEvans-d9n26 күн бұрын
Randy you hated co anglers as much as any pro.
@ericahlstrom950626 күн бұрын
Go pro's and KZbin have had bigger impact on co-anglers than FFS. You used to have to be a co angler to learn what the top guys were doing but now all you need to do is watch KZbin and watch what all the best guys did. It's like being a coangler in 20 boats at the same tournament. Why would anyone pay to learn less? FFS may be the nail in the coffin but it was not the main contributor. It was going down way before FFS.
@user-iy6rz1eq9x25 күн бұрын
Your the guy whobhates coangles make up your mind 😂😂😂
@MichaelSonger-sz6tp24 күн бұрын
For someone that is against electronics, I find it interesting that you are promoting equipment that enhances the ability to use electronics. Smh.. Will there ever be a time where you focus on content and teaching versus criticism and distain?
@jessiepayne73726 күн бұрын
They got rid of the wrong thing should have been FFS.
@paulworley352726 күн бұрын
100% truth
@DaleTomazin-i3j26 күн бұрын
I thought you hated co-anglers.
@donkimmel937526 күн бұрын
Randy do you think the BFL's, Toyotas should have no Co-Anglers???
@ronknight786326 күн бұрын
Give them time. They will probably follow bass. All I know is without co anglers they are going lose out on alot of money.
@donkimmel937526 күн бұрын
@@ronknight7863 They are going to further hurt the tackle industry. The Black Friday sales were HUGE...BOGO $10.00 crankbaits...Sales on Bait Cast Rods and Reels
@christopherv2618126 күн бұрын
I would fish tournaments if I didn't have to worry about co- anglers.
@glynnreid121725 күн бұрын
If they did, Randy would be peeing in his pants.He hates co anglers.
@Buddy198026 күн бұрын
Besides you can’t fish in the back of a boat with two damn power poles sticking up and 2 to 3 freaking GoPro’s on pedestals sticking up everywhere
@DavidThane-q5p25 күн бұрын
Good point
@dwainmorgan855026 күн бұрын
NPFL will take over eventually, you watch.
@ronknight786326 күн бұрын
Npfl doesn't have co anglers either
@BobbyMartin-gu6wm21 күн бұрын
Noo!
@chrisl673326 күн бұрын
I have done the 0pens as a co. Since 2011.And have had the opportunity and luck to fish with 3wlite anglers and 2 classic champs. Yes FFS make it harder but it's the best learning I ever had. I always looked at it as the cheapest guide trip you can get Plugs if you're lucky you can make a buck. Yes BASS has shot themselves in the foot. It's going to hard to come back from this one
@24bhyn26 күн бұрын
I agree 100% Randy. FFS obviously affected this.
@jaimeastin23 күн бұрын
I have had livescope 1 and 2 since 2019. I got it to keep up and learn it, but always thought it was unfair. I dont use it much. It should be banned from peo tournaments. You are a pro for ehat you know... Not the tools
@rodevans721426 күн бұрын
Well I've fished the co angler side since the top 150s, I've both fished and learned from some great guys and have been with some that I could have out fished, but if bass master gets rid of the co anglers than I think they're just going to shoot themselves in the foot. I know I would not want to fish with a spot lighter but really enjoyed fishing bass master events and financially the co angler side made it possible and probably for many other anglers and if they stop this program I may even cancel my membership.
@renegade232526 күн бұрын
I fished alot of events as a co, every co angler complained about ffs being the issue in tournaments.
@mikeonusko605024 күн бұрын
After 40 years ago as a BASS member I won't be renewing it, unless you make 6 figures a year you can't compete in this sport any longer. The members are what made Bass successful and the co angler entry was there for amatures. Without the grass roots they have nothing!
@GaryMinckler26 күн бұрын
I used to be a proud BASS member. Its totally irrelevent to me the last few years.
@SergiusPaulus-126 күн бұрын
Co-anglers fishing with ffs pros should just use noisy top water plugs and buzzbaits in the back. Like whopper ploppers, which attract the most aggressive fish. Probably a throphy bass, lol.
@MarkFields-by8qy26 күн бұрын
I’m not a fan of co anglers in any event with a 1500 or higher entry fee. With Toyota Series would eliminate the Co Angler as well.
@robertjakubicki226526 күн бұрын
Before FFS I would've recommended that a new angler join a bass club to learn how to fish. I'm not sure it's a good idea anymore.
@bjmillerfishes25 күн бұрын
Wonder if there's any chance a guy can still get in the opens. Would switch in a heartbeat.
@glynnreid121725 күн бұрын
Call them. Your money is green.
@bjmillerfishes25 күн бұрын
@glynnreid1217 ha. I know. Figure it's already full. Will be on the phone Monday.
@russwilliams48426 күн бұрын
So, if they get rid of the co anglers, will they pair the pros together or will they fish by themselves?
@ronfussell824426 күн бұрын
I always say this,an educated experienced co can fish all day in back without the alleged pro turning his head,unless he has ffs,then it's just a joy ride and try not to pee on the back of the boat.
@scottminter473526 күн бұрын
Never understood the co angler situation. Does a prp basketball player have a co basketball player buy his side. Or a co pro fessional golfer.
@glynnreid121725 күн бұрын
A lot of PGA events have pro-ams. Sorry to burst your bubble.
@dwighthaberly119926 күн бұрын
Bassmasters made a decision it's their sandbox their rules. Don't like it don't play in their sandbox not hard to figure out. Hard part for Randy is to not cry about things that he has absolutely no control over.
@DshaunBirch24 күн бұрын
lol they danced around the real reason like we even saw the amazing angler and sweetest person ever kristine fischer say fishing behind a scooper sucked and she’d never do it again
@gregarmstrong679826 күн бұрын
Sorry Randy, no one is going to pay $ to just sit in the back of the boat and watch another guy catch fish, especially on FFS. The only way co-anglers works is in the shared weight format. Essentially, turning it into a team tournament. It has worked great out west in the WON circuits. It gets rid of the "back-seating" for the most part, and makes it more participatory for the co-angler.
@lemkodude326626 күн бұрын
As a Co w/70+ events, I'll no longer be signing up for a full season b/c of FFS and the next level of heightened emotionalities of Boaters, with or w/o FFS, it has created. Like RB said, being a Co isn't fun like it was B4 FFS and my last Regional in '24 was the last straw. I'll miss vying for Regionals but Cos may likely convince themselves to buy their own boat, but only for recreation and maybe to jackpot an occasional (BB) tournament.
@glennneal471711 күн бұрын
You go Randy' tell the truth brother Ray Scott is turning over in his grave . They are causing us regular fisherman to leave bassmaster completely.
@jebbohanan262625 күн бұрын
I can not call someone a “Bass Master”, when they use technology to show them the fish. It’s like using the APP for a store and having your order delivered to your door.
@NMTCCT25 күн бұрын
I did some sampling on "Non Boaters" at the end of this years season, out of a few tournaments I looked for the FFS sonar anglers and I looked at what NON Boater was assigned to them and then the second day of fishing I would see who the Non Boater was assigned with, any one of them who drew two days of FFS anglers they did not make a paycheck at all, those who had a FFS angler one of the two days less the 10 percent made money. You can see the drop in Non boaters participation from the time FFS was introduced into the pro fishing organizations. So I will not say that COVID did not have an impact but the biggest was why pay for entry fees and walk away with ZERO money back. I would think if I was a Non boater how much fun that would NOT be fishing with a FFS Angler. The FFS anglers was complaining because the non boaters attitudes on the boat while fishing, I wonder why?
@andygullion518226 күн бұрын
There is no mystery. Garmin has a multi year deal with Bassmaster. FFS will continue to influence their decisions, as the endeavor to influence the acceptance of FFS. Corporate Backscratch.
@mikereilly520518 күн бұрын
I predicted this 2 years ago, even a fool could see it coming since FFS is ruining the sport and, now, the "way in to full time angling" for many in the past has been shut down.
@LMBOUTLAW26 күн бұрын
I understand what the lure manufacturers are upset--all you need is a FFS and a drop shot with a fake minnow attached to compete. Need to get back to electronics for depth and temperature all that should be allowed.
@Schnazola26 күн бұрын
What can a co-angler learn from someone in the bow who's looking down at his feet?
@johndoran733126 күн бұрын
Co anglers are not needed. No "Pro" wants a "CO"... if they are really being honest. Chit... I've listened and liked many of your vids about your bad interactions with CO's. Once again....Click bait. Be careful what you with for.... with out this "stance" you have taken; your not relevant with current baits and techniques. Viewership will plummet.
@ScottCooperOutdoors26 күн бұрын
Nobody wants to pay money to be stuck out in 60ft of water with nothing to throw at.
@vernonhearn272426 күн бұрын
They gonna miss us when we’re gone, that’s FACT!
@Selleg2224 күн бұрын
Do you ever have anything positive to say?
@myownlane840926 күн бұрын
This is a terrible decision for the sport. Many pros started on the coangler side. I actually met you at the Open on Pickwick a few years ago when I fished my 1st Open as a coangler. I haven’t fished one in the last couple of years because of FFS. If they want FFS so bad that they’ll sink the ship because of it, let it go down. It’s sad to those of us used to support them. I use to record their shows but now they’re unwatchable for those of us that want to learn.
@johnsamsky625326 күн бұрын
BASS will be out of business in less than five years. Ray Scott is rolling over in his grave.
@jeffwerth270726 күн бұрын
Cost cutting measures - maybe sponsorship $$ has dropped. Be interesting to see how NPFL and their anti FFS stance does
@edwardcowan701226 күн бұрын
Other than returning to the pro on pro draw format I don’t see how they can police these events. 80% of the anglers at a BASS open are just club/bfl level guys with nicer boats. 225 paid observers wouldn’t be cost effective. I always thought that the draw format resulted in better sportsmanship. If you didn’t play nice everyone knew it and you were going to have a bad day every day.
@chriseisele996926 күн бұрын
Ray Scott turning over in his grave faster than your prop going flat out
@bobwalsh71926 күн бұрын
Un F*kin believable!
@caseysaunders213726 күн бұрын
The only option a co angler has in deep open water to jig a spoon. They don't need to fish with a pro to do that.
@TracyWMitchell26 күн бұрын
A coangler could literally take a nap behind a spotlighter
@motherlodebassin536926 күн бұрын
I want Bassmaster off our public lakes!!! Toirnff do me by belong on private waters. Period.
@fishnwiz26 күн бұрын
They would rather allow cheaters to use livescope then listen to co angler's complain. FACT
@FrankDattilio26 күн бұрын
Bassmaster is cutting off the feed for future pros. Im sure every existing pro started out on the back of a pro boat in the lower tier tournaments then stepped up to the opens.
@rickwalter950926 күн бұрын
what now you like co anglers
@glynnreid121725 күн бұрын
Hypocrisy at it's finest. The true Randy at heart.
@kenjohnston242626 күн бұрын
They lost me when the started letting guys drive 300 hp motors. Screw safety, take the money from the manufacturers. Now it’s ffs, taking the true skill out of catching fish. Follow the money every change they make. Very disappointing.
@kensharpless475326 күн бұрын
250 hp is max.
@kenjohnston242626 күн бұрын
@ My error, that’s better than 300 but still too fast.
@TracyWMitchell26 күн бұрын
Yet another FFS fallout.
@Buddy198026 күн бұрын
Ray Scott made this fun! And it gave guys a sample of tour life to maybe become a full Time pro, not no more