Investigating the Lyte Gaming PC Business

[@GregSalazar]

Thanks for the feedback on videos like these. I tried to be more constructive in this one and less... _sensational._ I do hope the peeps in charge of this company consider the feedback and resculpt their website and business model. Would love to revisit them again in a few months and see how things have improved.

[@asianfasian3349]

Review BlueGem PC next

[@Olivershamoo]

Hi

[@dirtymike69420]

The editing is top notch lately. Well done.

[@DoctorX17]

I think you're doing pretty well at giving constructive criticism and not sensationalist crap

[@ACE112ACE112]

peeps?

[@taylorsharp5928]

There's no way they aren't just buying used parts with the age of those components.

[@gameassassin6093]

@@yaris5150 and how do you know that?

[@juliansnowden7690]

I KNOW they are, they screwed me on ebay. They purchase used products on eBay for their computers, and then return the products to the sellers claiming that items do not match descriptions while asking if they can make a deal as they made a mistake in ordering. NOT TRUSTWORTHY

[@F90_3rs]

Horrible company the customer support is a joke they talk to u like they own super disrespectful I've a dispute with the bank against these guys if you are trying to get a broken gpu and wrong processor and not get a refund they are the best at that they are SCAMMERS.

[@octanegamer1576]

Hey Greg, you should pull a Gamer Nexus and buy one of these PCs and inspect and test the quality of these PCs and give a review

[@tanmaypanadi1414]

Not worth it if the system on the store itself is advertised with iffy claims .

[@shadow7037932]

@@tanmaypanadi1414 No, but it would actually let you figure out if if they are doing bait and switches with the things they actually ship. For example, switching the CPU to something cheaper/lower performing in the hopes that the buyer won't notice.

[@LyteTechnologyInc]

We would love to get a PC sent to him. If he wants to buy a random system without us knowing its him we encourage that as well! There are currently over 5000 gamers who play on a LYTE PC and we work hard to maintain our positive reviews

[@infopackrat]

Depends on what their return policy is. Wouldn't cost too much if you can return it after the review.

[@Alex881]

Facts

[@SpaceMan-pj9zn]

I feel like I lost all hope of buying any gaming pc because most reviews have a lot of negative stuff

[@dimitrisk1369]

bruh i am the same way ive been researching for so long because all company reviews are negative and im out here spending hella money

[@cizzie219]

I've read good reviews on maingear.

[@theangryaardvark3507]

One day there may be a site that actually shows all specs, prices and game fps that is 100% accurate. I'll recheck in 2056.

[@Lapisz123]

recheck in an alternate universe

[@humanperson6743]

depends on what parts you merge for example: pay for aspect of newegg combined with demonitizing sellers for a bad review, along with accepting anything on amazon, and the shady parts of Ebay.

[@chrometutor-tipstricksandt9427]

There is one. NZXT.

[@pglasglow]

Go to lyte technology they do

[@aidang7182]

ChromeTutor! - Tips, tricks, and tutorials NZXT BLDs arent the best also they’ll void ur warranty if u enable XMP POG

[@brandonsuzuki]

Greg - I think you're being a bit too soft on this company. They're clearly misrepresenting their products. But overall, great job on calling them out.

[@GregSalazar]

The question was whether it was intentional or unintentional. And because I can't prove it one way or another, I won't make a claim in the video.

[@brandonsuzuki]

@@GregSalazar I understand. Making those claims without evident proof could smell potential legal troubles. (cough Craigslist) xD!

[@packersfan036]

@@GregSalazar its all about the benjamins.

[@TooBokoo]

@@mdamaged Microsoft, themselves, support grey market keys. I bought one off EBay and had an issue with it, called MS and they verified it and activated my Windows 10 Pro. LOL! MS doesn't care. They just want as many machines running Windows as possible. So who cares?!

[@Cerus98]

Poorly Playing Retro - No they don’t. Those keys eventually get blacklisted and deactivated.

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

I love Detective -Pikachu- Salazar! Tech YES helps me find the deals and Detective Salazar helps me avoid the ripoffs.

[@tanmaypanadi1414]

Hi hope we see more of you this year .

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

@@tanmaypanadi1414 Thanks! I have something planned with Greg as well. Stay Tuned!

[@ashleyjohansson230]

This business is walking on thin ice using branded company's images as their own. If this company is based in America, they will definitely eventually be sued and go out of business.

[@carwashsoap]

How so?

[@snacksnake7418]

Pretty sure the graphics of the pc's are made by the company lol where are you getting your info? or are you saying things just to say them

[@LyteTechnologyInc]

Almost all of our images are shot by us. The few that arent we are working to updated ASAP. Otherwise they are stock images. Completely legal

[@LilBrujoFH18]

Cyberpower and ibuypower are cons. They give you dead or very used parts to have you call them and get a rma then charge you $80 to ship it to them so they can do it again. After the second time they will tell you thay you will not only pay for shipping but now you will pay for the parts. I never bought from them but i understand what they are doing.

[@LyteTechnologyInc]

@Rory Dobson if you’re disappointed give us a call and we’ll make it right!

[@LyteTechnologyInc]

Appreciate the constructive criticisms! Let me touch on a few topics here to hopefully answer some questions! 🤔 - We try to price our components as fairly as possible while allowing for fluctuations in the market price. PC components price change like a commodity! We want to be as reasonable as possible while giving ourselves room to breath for price fluctuation! - In the gameplay videos we try to grab videos that have similar performance to what can be expected from this system until we get gameplay recorded for every game on each system we offer. On our KZbin channel you can see we are constantly launching gameplay videos and working hard to get this fixed. Our goal is to give customers who don't have a knowledge of how parts will perform, a rough idea of what to expect . - The Product images are stock images for some of our newer systems but we are working to improve that consistently. The goal with the images is to show off the case. Totally see where you guys are coming from and we are getting that fixed. Sometimes its hard to do as much justice for the case as the manufacturers do! Again, appreciate the feedback and everyone that's on our side. We are working hard to improve everyday and look forward to continue to grow! Everyone that has bought a PC from us, much love! ♥♥

[@GregSalazar]

Received your email as well. I appreciate your genuine desire to improve. We all could use a bit of that. I'll follow up very soon!

[@xhgcommentaryarchive]

👍🏻👍🏻👌🏻👌🏻

[@jordydrop]

Your second paragraph. Let me stop you right there. When you have a third gen i5 chip listed for three times what it sells for on eBay, you can't chalk that up too market fluctuations. That's straight up bullshit. An i7-5820K for close to $300? Total bullshit. I don't know if this company has the capacity to be honest.

[@LyteTechnologyInc]

​@@jordydrop We cant and dont buy items off ebay. You cant compare our prices to eBay prices. If you can find us an i5 3470 from a registered distributor for $30 wed love to see it!

[@damienriot]

@@LyteTechnologyInc if you don't buy any of these cpus from eBay, then please stop using horrible cpus (for 2020's standard) like the 3450 and gpus like 1050 2GB. Add something like a 1650 and a Ryzen R5 1600 at least for the budget system. Then throw away the 5820K and 270$ ish x99 asus mobo; grab something like 3700x and cheapo x470 board. Let's assume you haven't gotten any of these super old cpus from eBay. In that case, I am pretty sure your registered distributor is highly over charging you. Google a bit, follow good YT Gaming PC hardware related reviews of Greg's channels, Hardware Unboxed and you will soon get basic idea about parts price performance ratio and know why it's very bad for the consumers to buy SUPER OLD gen hardware

[@tarelsun4025]

The Second System is sooo "oof"... You can get any Fujitsu or similar SFF for around 40-50 Bucks with an i5 3470. Throw 16GB Ram and a GTX 1650 Low Profile in and be about half the Price AND even have much more GPU horsepower... i just did that 3 Weeks ago for my TV PC.

[@tanmaypanadi1414]

It's called htpc from what I recall Not tv PC but I get it Try playing some retroarch stuff Use similar set up but with 1050ti though with r3 1200

[@Andrew-qb3oq]

Yup , I have a similar set up out of an old HP Compaq SFF. 3770 i7, 32gb ram and gtx 1050 ti. Only about $220 into it, but all used parts. Biggest issue with the older SSFs, is the PSUs don't have much extra wattage for GPU upgrades.

[@X-Stacy]

I purchased a "Nova" PC and actually received parts that were better than those advertised. Instead of a Nvidia GTX 1060 with 3GB of VRAM I got a Radeon RX 580 Gaming X from MSI with 4GB of VRAM. Unfortunately my PC came with a 500GB HDD instead of the 1TB HDD advertised and a 430 WATT PSU as opposed to the 500 WATT PSU advertised. However I contacted the company and within MINUTES I received a phone call from the CEO himself. He graciously apologized for the inconvenience and is sending me a 500GB HDD and some accessories as rectification. The reason my system came with a 430 WATT PSU is because they recently stopped buying the 500 WATT PSU as it was from a less reputable company and had a one year warranty. So they decided to go for a 430 WATT PSU from a more reputable company with a three year warranty instead. He apologized for not notifying me about the change in PSU and admitted that it was a mistake on their part. I would also like to add that after receiving my PC I added up the prices of all the components on amazon and what I got was actually worth about $300 more than I paid for. I am not saying I disagree with this video and I do think they need to update their website with accurate information.

[@machphoenix6619]

Woah Woah wait a minute. The game footage Lyte is using isn't even from them at all! It's from a KZbinr called zWORMz Gaming; I recognized the thumbnail for Fortnite and the Apex gameplay uses his exact overlay to count FPS. Does he know his gameplay is being possibly stolen to be used as advertising?

[@LyteTechnologyInc]

We dont claim that specific gameplay is on our PCs. We just include links to gameplay with similar specs so customers who dont know much about parts have a rough idea on the performance to expect!

[@chunguspizza]

Lyte Technology Inc nah bro that’s lazy.

[@jordydrop]

Wow I'm glad lyte has seen this video. That's hilarious. Must feel weird knowing that we know what's going on. The best business models are based around... Deception? Best of luck to you, lyte PC.

[@TheMidnightillusion]

@@LyteTechnologyInc why not use your own footage though? You make the PCs right? Surely you test them to make sure they work properly right? Would it be too much for you to load up fortnite for 10 minutes to record the footage and fps yourself?

[@jradish]

@@TheMidnightillusion yeah but that requires effort

[@flochforster6892]

They are absolutely insane for charging $389 for a gtx 1080. I have an rtx 2060 in my personal rig and I paid $379 for it.

[@nanannananan1553]

They are charging $800 for a 3070 when nzxt is charging msrp.

[@Sophia-we6yh]

As someone who knows almost nothing about computers this is like watching someone talk in a different language

[@Downlinx]

Great video again Greg, I appreciate you taking the time to say that you are not calling them out, but constructive criticism, let's hope they take it as such and use it to better the business they have built.

[@Downlinx]

@@TeenYeti I am sure it was fine. I am not bad mouthing the company, but good criticism can go a long way.

[@Downlinx]

@@TeenYeti I wouldn't necessarily say it is a cheaper way of getting a PC, but faster in a way that you don't have to build it yourself.

[@LyteTechnologyInc]

We currently sell a good quantity of PCs and are always appreciative of some constructive criticism! We are working to get these issues pointed out resolved ASAP!

[@LyteTechnologyInc]

@@TeenYeti Much love!!!

[@Yeldl]

I was so mad, I bought the wraith because of the performance advertised it was advertised to push 130-170 FPS on fortnite and I contacted them about because it doesn’t reach anywhere near that and they said “yeah that’s wrong” said sorry and fixed it on their website, honestly felt like i deserved a refund

[@LyteTechnologyInc]

If that happened contact us and we will definitely work with you to make things right!

[@Yeldl]

Lyte Technology Inc I’ve already contacted you guys and I was not happy, I thought I payed for 130-170 FPS (which was advertised at the time) but all you guys did was tell me to make sure my cpu coolers are screwed in good and thanked me for catching that mistake on your website. The only way I’d feel satisfied is if I get the performance I thought I was paying for.

[@ayezz3079]

I think they never tested it they just assumed it would be like that

[@neverlasting3511]

what setting were u running, low setting or high settings?

[@mortis3732]

Were you on high or low settings?

[@matthewrodriguez9746]

I don't want to sound like I'm defending them or anything but maybe they are bumping up the prices to somewhat a reasonable price so they can make a profit from the PC. If you think about if you were to build a PC with the intention to sell it you would list the prices a little higher than the cost to actually build it so you can make a profit from the PC and not just make the exact amount that you spent on building the PC.

[@runmare]

The issue is they send you old parts and 90% of the time they’re broken. The company is just scummy

[@matthewrodriguez9746]

@@runmare ah okay that makes sense:)

[@garden0fstone736]

If they’re selling used parts this mark up is just straight greedy. How can cyber or ibuy have a 600 pc with way newer components and lyte uses generations old hardware and is the same price. There’s a difference between making honest money and ripping people off

[@matthewjohnfit6000]

thanks for pointing out the obvious lol it’s pretty clear they’re marking up every single component then adding a “build fee” on top. It would make sense if the parts were new but they use old parts

[@b4buzz551]

my friend told me about this company and i said "oh never heard of them" he said "yea they are pretty good with budget stuff and only charge 100 extra" this video helped so much thanks

[@F90_3rs]

Horrible company the customer support is a joke they talk to u like they own super disrespectful I've a dispute with the bank against these guys if you are trying to get a broken gpu and wrong processor and not get a refund they are the best at that they are SCAMMERS.

[@Mendoogle]

Really like the new format with the greenscreen! Keep up the great work!

[@jackcolby1031]

I bought a pc from them and it’s been nothing but a giant headache tbh, the computer I received was nothing like the pics and a lot of the parts were different too like it was supposed to have 1TB HDD and they legit give me 500GB HALF of what it was supposed to be. I tried calling and emailing them and the one time they answered my email it was just “we are so sorry what can we do to make this right” and I told them I wanted the pc I ordered and PAID for. They have time to make all of these cringe worthy annoying ads but won’t return an email or call. Please save yourself the headache and buy a pc from an actual reputable company so you don’t have to go through the process of a chargeback like I do now to get my money back.

[@GenericMemer]

Jack Colby pretty much the same issue with mine, Extremely dissatisfied.

[@deathman9134]

Same thing with mine. 430w psu instead of a 450. Got a rx 580 4 gb gpu instead of the 1060 3 gb which that I dont care about. Missing io shield for the motherboard. Unactivated copy of windows 10 pro. Got a 500 gb instead of the promised 1 tb. Emailed them and told them about the storage. They apologized and sent me another 500 gb hdd. The drive was DOA as I tried different data cables and the computer wouldn't even read how big the drive was. Emailed them about it again and they sent out a 1 tb to make up for their mistakes(even though I was suppose to have a 1 tb to begin with). Got that and it works. Still missing a io shield despite having asked about it a few times and being told they would send one out. Not even going to bother with it. I'm in a discord group with about 19 other people that have all bought computers during this pandemic and almost all of them have had something wrong one way or another. Messaged one guy on Facebook about all the issues I had(which are now sorted out. Even upgraded the cpu myself cause the one I had was junk due to very low playability of games even on minimum specs) who was waiting on his own computer and he messaged the company saying he has heard of multiple people having issues with their computer they recieved and they pretty much told him they didnt know what he was talking about pretty much calling us complainers liars.

[@xhgcommentaryarchive]

I know these guys semi personally and can say with great confidence that they do have a good intention with their company. Their business practices do need a polish-up as they definitely have some advertising misleads but when you boil it down, they sell machines at a good price for the consumer who doesn't want to build compared to OEM companies, and have wonderful customer service. I hope to see these improvements come into effect soon. (Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with this company. I'm literally a teen who builds PCs for my hometown who sometimes makes hobby money 😂)

[@LyteTechnologyInc]

♥♥

[@User-bx7is]

@@LyteTechnologyInc lyte do yall have a discord?

[@mattlow7350]

Yo same

[@cocoshort6528]

i don't think their prices are reasonable, many of the parts are market more than double what they go for

[@bdhale34]

@@cocoshort6528 what you can occasionally find a deal on and the normal price of items are almost always different things. I got a Gigabyte R9 270x Windforce x3 card in 2014 for $67 shipped.. that however doesn't change the fact that at the time on newegg that card was selling for $225. Not defending either side just pointing out an empirical fact.

[@epikcvx6511]

I’m furious!! I made a purchase on February in advance to my sons birthday to surprise him. they took forever to send me a Pc with different parts since the original ones that came with the pc I order we’re not in stock . first Pc didn’t send signal to the monitor or mouse , second Pc replacement came out with glass door screw broken and cable panel screw bent they asked me if I can’t switch all parts to a new case which neither I or my 13 years old son know how to do that , they asked me to sign an agreement were it state that they will send me a replacement and as soon as I get the new one I committed my self to returned the other one. I don’t know why they just simple send me a label to return it in the first place . now the replacement for the second replacement came out with the front panel case broken which I called and send them pictures right away after opening the package they told me to send that one back also so I send both PC the same day and now I just received an email stating that they received one of the pc but only the case an all components were gone ! Like really now Lyte technology is accusing me ! I have pictures of every single broken and nun fictional pc they have delivered to me They keep telling me that both pc got damage on the way here so must be the drivers fault braking them and now they have the audacity to imply I have took components out and I will be charge for them when I didn’t do that nor I know how to removed them if so I would just asked for a new case ! I paid $1300 for a pc I still don’t have and now they want to charge me for components or basically a new pc that I don’t have

[@jordydrop]

i have an update for you guys: i was commenting on some of lyte's facebook ad threads. one person made a remark about how they use all new parts and their parts were either current gen or previous gen. i corrected him and suggested it's highly unlikely they're unboxing new-old-stock ivy bridge CPUs. i made a few other remarks, all of which were honest and truthful in an effort to provide clarity to their existing customers or potential customers. i made a comment about how they tend to price a lot of their components much higher than their ebay market value. Lyte apparently didn't appreciate my knowledge. There were multiple comments deleted. Lyte, if you're reading this, good job extracting money from your customers. If you were concerned about adding value to your customer's lives instead, you'd be open to criticism. sincerely, jordan (hardware tech since the 90s)

[@9inchpp]

Bruh they're just treading the water with what they could get away if nobody noticed or called them out. The phrase "give an inch and they will take a mile" would be an apt description for this company.

[@mulsimin__]

6:40 Is that GPU disconnected??? What a fail.

[@CaveyMoth]

It's using a tempered glass PCI-E power connector. You just can't see it.

[@RandarTheBarbarian]

they're probably just using the stock case images. I see a lot of cases being sold with like the image of a full system inside and sometimes they have mistakes like that (especially with cheaper case manufacturers), which may or may not be intentional to make the "build" look cleaner.

[@Krispaye]

I haven't purchased a computer from them but I am considering it. However one note I'll add. You said it looks like they're sourcing parts from old builds and PCs. While it's not what most companies do. LGP stated in Ads and I think somewhere on their site. That they do source it from old PCs. So they let consumers know. They do it to give people a cheap option while still giving a system that has decent specs

[@mancavegamingandgardening9901]

There is nothing wrong with taking old OEM junk and trying to give it a 2nd life, but it must be priced accordingly and presented honestly. There is still plenty of demand and sensible profit to be made on this type of endeavor.

[@tanmaypanadi1414]

Can't argue with that ? Also saving the planet from junk . And it's usually tax free which is a good send when I have to import the stuff new .

[@carwashsoap]

To be fair, they do mention that they're using a mix of old/new parts

[@mancavegamingandgardening9901]

@@carwashsoap They still did not price accordingly however which is why this video exists.

[@carwashsoap]

@@mancavegamingandgardening9901 I'm aware. I've been following them for a couple months now.

[@GregSalazar]

I literally said this in the video shortly after the ad.

[@TheObsesedAnimeFreaks]

i wholly disagree with the "don't pay 75 bucks for a windows 10 license" you should unless you are a system builder, ALWAYS pay full retail price for a windows 10 key. a retail key gives you a bit more flexibility when it comes to licensing and upgradablity. with a grey market key, MS may decide to void you key, with an OEM key you will not be able to change anything significantly, and ONLY with a retail key will your license generally last a few upgrades and reinstalls. there are other legal reasons why you don't want to buy a grey market key but that's not always that important. these usually come up if you are a system builder or a business, as MS will want you to buy volume licensing from them and not pay a grey market for their product.

[@JulianUccetta]

You didn't notice the "Gameplay on this PC" was random KZbin videos of the games? For instance their Intel system with a 1080 had videos of a Ryzen system playing GTA V with totally different specs. The videos have zero affiliation with the company, and the way I see it that is completely misleading and sort of feels scam like. I checked almost every gameplay video on their PC listings, hardly anything matches up. All are just random YT videos of the games. Most appear to be from a KZbinr called ZWormZ Gaming, who as far as I can tell isn't affiliated with the company. I wonder if any of these KZbinrs know their videos are being used to market PCs. It's not just a few mismatched specs on the videos lol. They are just rando gameplay vids!

[@iamronaldo7764]

Julian Uccetta zwormz is a trusted youtuber tho and he lets companys use his video

[@VictorFugazzotto]

A little late to this, but I wanted to share an experience with Lyte Game PCs. My brother bought the "Lyte Horizon PC" from them, and the pc experience was not good. First the build was different from what was listed on their website. They built in a Gamdias Talos M1 instead of the listed Rosewill Zircon, used an Asrock board instead of the Gigabyte, a ThermalTake powersupply instead of the EVGA listed, and the 1 TB HDD turned out to be 2x 500 GB drives. All not super big deals to me, just misleading at best especially if a customer liked the case listed and shown on the site. Second while their website states that current processing times are longer (8-12 days), the pc he ordered took over a month to be built and shipped. Finally, when the computer did arrive yesterday, the pc was dead on arrival as whoever built it did not put the cpu in properly and bent pins when putting the cooler on top of it. As of right now I am waiting to hear back on refunding since it was delivered on Friday and Lyte is not open on weekends. I also did a mostly complete write-up of what happened with some pictures on my website. vic485.xyz/2020/05/diagnosing-a-doa-pc/

[@desardlika755]

9:59 these benchmarks are from a youtuber called zWORMz gaming and not from them .

[@whosn8tv]

Wow what a high quality video!

[@GregSalazar]

TY for editing, N8

[@anthonyy123]

@@GregSalazar pp

[@DawitULT]

@@anthonyy123 pp

[@TristanSpeno]

@@DawitULT pp

[@EthanDBG]

@@TristanSpeno pp

[@Godemes]

Moral of the story, build your own PC. The only reseller that comes close to giving you what you pay for without misleading is ibuypower, however their parts navigation is a nightmare.

[@RJBuildsPcs]

Seen their ads, glad you made a video on it because I looked at their listings....and....uh.....LOL.

[@TheFlashprime]

Hi, as European IT shop owner I found this prices in normal space (I don't know how it's work in the US), because as IT shop we have to offer warranty and support for at least 6 month, more we simply couldn't use the Windows Key's you mention, because Microsoft make controls on company like us frequently and doesn't like pretty much this sources of key. After for the misleading pictures and bench, I'm fully agree, it's not trustworthy.

[@jonathanmorales1645]

That background music was in a porn I saw lol so since I listen to most KZbin vids thats all I could think about lol

[@CRACKINGPACKSMTG]

You have to also think about, tech support? If they have it, and warranty Is probably handled directly with them.

[@Maxwell2101]

i see a lot of sites which "stock" case pictures, those are most higher quality and overall nicer to look

[@LyteTechnologyInc]

You know whats up 👌

[@cocoshort6528]

@@LyteTechnologyInc you know its sometimes illegal

[@garden0fstone736]

That’s like taking a picture of a hellcat on the ad and when it arrives you actually get a v6

[@f1nn15]

Common misconecption about this website is that they don't list the component brand when they do. You just have to click gameplay and scroll down.

[@GregSalazar]

??? The gameplay footage they link was completely mismatched, and the specs didn't match the photos.

[@f1nn15]

Greg Salazar the specs are correct they just put in photos of some other persons build with the same case

[@Nathan-te7qr]

I saw an ad for this on Reddit...

[@vollkerball1]

As for grounds for taking them to court, they basically only need a phrase that says images are from final product or something like that.

[@123Geek]

Everyone if a company bumps their prices is how business is. If they sell it at cost they will not survive. Greg knows this. If they are making $100-$200 a build that's fine. If you don't know how to build than get a pre-built. I agree most of the time with Greg in this case I don't completely agree with him. None the less the video gets a thumbs up because I believe Greg is saying you can build your own.

[@TheMidnightillusion]

Yes, the company needs to make a profit but they don't need to do it by misleading their customers.

[@garden0fstone736]

Can guarantee they’re making more than $200 profit

[@123Geek]

@@garden0fstone736 okay? Businesses need to make profit to stay in business you can't do it off of $100-$200-$300 profit even more so as such a small scale.

[@123Geek]

@Mad Guy that's good but that's at cost(selling what you bought the parts for). When you have a businesses you have overhead. You can't sell at cost and expect to survive.

[@123Geek]

@@TheMidnightillusion I can agree but let's say they went and bought the video card on ebay as Greg suggest (which is a stupid thing to say for a new build). If you list all of your items at cost you will never be able to one make a profit two if you ever raise the prices of components people will be upset. $20-$30 over msrp isn't bad honestly. I you don't know how to build a PC it's kind of how it works they sourced the parts put them in the case made sure it works. For this you pay a small premium. Honestly they make these systems for people not like you or anyone that knows how to put it together. Never run a business at cost.

[@livesquadnationlsn3759]

i currently own one im not very happy with it they gave me a usb 3.0 usb case with a 2.0 board ive had issues with it constantly im going to upgrade here soon

[@jackcolby1031]

LIVE SQUAD NATION Lsn try to return it, or if they don’t respond you can file a chargeback with your credit/debit card company to get your money back since you were ripped off.

[@TheShadowX12]

This has been an interesting video indeed because I never thought I'd see darkFlash outside of Asia, they're a lot more common here in MY since a lot of custom system builders here are using their DLM21 mATX case for the price and aesthetic. They even released a mesh front panel version of the case with RGB case fans because of the mesh craze. (Definitely not trying to trying to copy the Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh lol)

[@middleclassthrash]

Greg Salazar, Value Police. You're building a brand and providing the community with a unique and valuable service. Thank you.

[@damirkranjcevic5886]

Your freedom of speech in USA/Canada is impressive

[@Jerem0y]

Awesome video I ran into this website awhile ago and actually considered it. Its crazy the things companys do to make money off you.

[@brzy4731]

I have a Lyte Hyper and all of the FPS they showed is actually less than what I actually get. On the sight they said between like 130-160FPS on low on fortnite but on high I actually get 240FPS in creative. So honestly without trying it out you shouldn't say there bad. But I have 144hz monitor so I just cap it at 144 and in pubs/arena I switch it to low-medium settings and still get 144

[@TyBrezzy11]

i checked your videos you might wanna look closer my guy... youre getting 90-110

[@orion9049]

MadMan205 recording lowers frames alot

[@uli4106]

@@TyBrezzy11 lol recording lowers the fps by 30% sometimes

[@an_invulnerable761]

wow i just bought one and arrived today i do have to say careful man they put used parts or at least i believe since they did to mine and told me they bought it from manufacture the component came dirty and dusty, they told me it was already build it did come build but only half way , i need to figure out how to put each cord. although i do know i can upgrade in the future i just feel scam since this video clearly said they must buy them from ebay, i just check how much intel 5 cost and its around 300 i payed 665.60.

[@garden0fstone736]

How did you find out they were used? Dusty?q

[@ambientmusiceleven]

now i feel like an idiot buying one of these lmao

[@chrissanchez9553]

Did you ever receive your PC from them?

[@spectercn4276]

@@chrissanchez9553 I purchased one as well almost a month ago my purchase still says processing. I’ve tried contacting them through Instagram, Facebook, and Email and have gotten no reply. I wouldn’t trust them

[@bbeast9755]

@@spectercn4276 call the company. I got through no problem.

[@deathman9134]

Same thing with mine. 430w psu instead of a 450. Got a rx 580 4 gb gpu instead of the 1060 3 gb which that I dont care about. Missing io shield for the motherboard. Unactivated copy of windows 10 pro. Got a 500 gb instead of the promised 1 tb. Emailed them and told them about the storage. They apologized and sent me another 500 gb hdd. The drive was DOA as I tried different data cables and the computer wouldn't even read how big the drive was. Emailed them about it again and they sent out a 1 tb to make up for their mistakes(even though I was suppose to have a 1 tb to begin with). Got that and it works. Still missing a io shield despite having asked about it a few times and being told they would send one out. Not even going to bother with it. I'm in a discord group with about 19 other people that have all bought computers during this pandemic and almost all of them have had something wrong one way or another. Messaged one guy on Facebook about all the issues I had(which are now sorted out. Even upgraded the cpu myself cause the one I had was junk due to very low playability of games even on minimum specs) who was waiting on his own computer and he messaged the company saying he has heard of multiple people having issues with their computer they recieved and they pretty much told him they didnt know what he was talking about pretty much calling us complainers liars.

[@jacekramer7536]

I bought a pc from these guys awhile ago. It came broken 4 times. And their customer service stopped being friendly after i told them I wanted a refund.

[@holyghostreapers9485]

Same my PC came with broken parts

[@cilum.9879]

@@holyghostreapers9485 I'm not getting it then. Ugh. I was so exited to get it. Do you have a recommended pc for a similar price range?

[@rubyg2478]

Did u get it

[@rubyg2478]

I think I might just get a refund

[@rubyg2478]

@@holyghostreapers9485 did u get a refund

[@SpacelyNYC]

I’m an owner of their DIAMOND PC and I didn’t know I was paying too much for their PC. Honesty was looking for a Streaming PC but their 1050 GPU was DooDoo and I had to buy a better GPU. Thank you for making this man. I was honestly gonna buy my girlfriend a new PC from here but now I see it was going to be a mistake

[@diegodominguez205]

I always see their ads and digital storm too

[@GankerJr]

I saw an ad for them and cringed really hard. It was bad. Really bad. They need to fix their website. Also, the random angle, when you were talking, was a distraction.

[@vaseline5070]

I've seen a few of their Instagram advertisements and thought their prices were high, for what they've got. Especially older hardware.

[@gijones82163]

Yeah ever saw a i3 for like 600

[@chi_Tachi]

I actually know someone that ordered a prebuilt from them about a year ago. It was one of their lower end models they don't advertise anymore for around $600. It came with a i5 3470, GTX 1060 3gb, 8gb of DDR3, and a cheap grey PSU all in a Rosewill SRM-01 case. I think it had a 350watt, but I'm not positive. My friend eventually ended up upgrading the RAM and PSU. Customer service was horrible. After cleared payment, they contacted LYTE 3x and it took them almost 3 weeks to send out the PC.

[@brandonpastrana82]

I wanna get my first pc and I was thinking about getting one from LYTE but I’ve seen really bad reviews that they send you different parts and the FPS posted on the websites aren’t actually what you can run then also that there mostly used parts. I don’t know if I should buy it now or if I should just build one instead. Seems kinda scetchy to buy from them most reviews on their pc’s are bad reviews and say wouldn’t recommend buying

[@storm144]

Do u have any recommendations on websites I should buy from? I wanna get my first one

[@lootgamesyt-9769]

I'm just a storm what’s your budget?

[@storm144]

@@lootgamesyt-9769 um like 800 pounds

[@vmfvictor]

that sick green screen tho great production dude, keep it up! greg for weather man!

[@Kingfizh]

i follow these guys on instagram and it seems from their stories that they just play games all day.

[@josephyoungblood9947]

1050 2g $120 nope.... I picked up a 1060 6g from a seller on letgo for $125 You can definitely build a decent gaming rig for much cheaper if you're willing to buy each part yourself and put it together

[@cls2031]

I built a PC similar to that "Diamond" PC. Same CPU and RAM. My storage configuration is different as well as the graphics card, case, and power supply. I have an R9 380 4GB, 128GB SSD with 320GB HDD, a free case I got from a friend, and a 550W power supply. I built the system for $200. If you add in a price for the case and a better hard drive, you will hit $250-$275 region. That "Diamond" PC is pretty overpriced. Edit: I also have an OEM Lenovo motherboard with a Windows 8 Pro key baked into the BIOS that also activates Windows 10 Pro.

[@ngybrid]

Well in their defense non-branded parts might be adjusting to what stock they have available at the moment. . But in our defense they could very well make list of parts that will be used in the build to be more transparent, let's say they should wrote this e.g. for PSUs: . "We will use one of the brand and model listed below. Do note that brand and model availability are depending on stock Be Quiet System Power U9 400W Corsair VS 450W Seasonic S12-III 450W" . Somethin like that, so we knew the quality of parts they are using.

[@nubsandbolts920]

I’ve heard a lot of medium to negative stuff about LYTE from 2+ years ago. A lot seems to have changed. I purchased their Venox X prebuild with Gigabyte RTX 3080 10gb, Ryzen 7 5800x, MSI X570 Gaming +, 2x16gb Corsair Veng. , 2tb NVME m.2 SSD(free tb), 1tb HD, Deepcool 240mm RGB water cooler, 6 case fans all in a LianLi Dynamic Evo case(newest model). For a total Tax included $2.6k. Several parts were subbed/upgraded due to stock and I paid extra $120 for the LianLi and mobo from B550M. If I didn’t swap out the mobo I would’ve had it in 7 days from ordering. Their customer service is top notch just stay on top of what you want/expect. They just sent me pictures of my rig and it looks awesome and will be shippped and arrive in 7 days. Their service is far better then what I’ve heard from years past. I saved money with these NEW premium parts and it’s under warranty. I will have it in 16 days from order(ordered on a Saturday). They answered my many questions and concerns. They even took pictures of it built(running 2nd day of tests) and it looks JUICY ASF! I cannot wait to do an unboxing and review. The Venom X is by far the best value they currently offer for High end as of 5/21/2022 with part scarcity. Maingear / oem are way overpriced.

[@whoshotya117]

They know what they're doing. A company with this many red flags is a no go for me.

[@killuachill5260]

I bought from them and my order is still processing after 25 days

[@turkeyplayspc5326]

@@killuachill5260 has it shown up yet?

[@killuachill5260]

@@turkeyplayspc5326 no

[@killuachill5260]

@@chopszn- no they shipped it a week ago

[@kiwi-ru6ql]

@@killuachill5260 did u get it yet?

[@beukenboomer604]

"Renewed" is simply the new way of saying it was previously used, or refurbished. Amazon started using "renewed" instead of "refurbished" on their products sometime last year.

[@drawesome821]

I've worked with this company in the past, scavenging recycling yards and selling them the components they use. I'd say I was underpaid by them considering the stupid high profits they're making. Ask me anything about their business.

[@GregSalazar]

Interesting! Thanks for the insight.

[@drawesome821]

@@GregSalazar absolutely! If you want, you can DM me on Twitter for more info @DrAwesome821

[@909tylor]

And me. I've known @DrAwesome for a very long time and him and I met the owner together

[@LyteTechnologyInc]

Not too sure if we have ever had any correlation with you. I know back when we used to sell used business computers in our storefront we would purchase used items from recyclers but not since we started manufacturing gaming PCs

[@drawesome821]

@@LyteTechnologyInc I recall selling you guys several systems in the past. Mainly Core2Quads, maybe some Sandy bridge stuff.

[@TickleMePinkGaming]

what can of legal trouble could they realistically get in for this?

[@jreverie7018]

You rock Greg bud! thanks for the content

[@GregSalazar]

Thanks for the support!

[@hectcr7377]

My friend bought off of them a couple months ago, and finally received it yesterday (and the website said a couple weeks shipping). He set it up today and realized the CPU and GPU were not the ones he paid for, website said gtx 1060 and he got RX 570 armor 4g oc, like what...

[@chikinonfrydai]

It says on the website that they may use other gpus that run just as good as the ones advertised because it’s hard for them to get the correct parts during this quarantine. Maybe your friend should read what he’s buying before he buys it.

[@kathifidalgo0]

@@chikinonfrydai oooh bullshit he should get what he pays for

[@llamapi3]

"Build yourself price" Sure. Straight scam.

[@SwiftMCy]

Ouch that first build. My 1800x and vega 56 build was less than 500.... 650 for an 570 and 1200... likely used. Rough

[@ssj-rose4572]

I wanted to get into pc gaming but every time I listen to some one talk about it my head starts to hurt

[@aidang7182]

building it and figuring out parts aren’t hard FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT GET A PREBUILT PC if parts are too hard ask someone to find them, watch bitwit video on how to assemble, btw unless u have a m.2 ssd u only need a #2 Phillips or u cna just pay someone to build

[@gggy4522]

I have ordered my lyte hyper and its amazing for a starting pc And the costemer sercice is alao great i do recomend this company for a pc

[@aidang7182]

Gg Gy also really seems like your reaction is staged

[@Jay-ur1eo]

Aidan G lif I ever get a gaming pc it’s gonna be a prebuilt because I can’t build stuff lol

[@aidang7182]

Jay not hard to build but if it seems like it there’s guys who will build it, usually a $100 fee which is same as prebuilt if not lower cuz companies lie about prices ik a dude who builds for $25 but idk if he ships $ = USD

[@nubsandbolts920]

I’m about to release several videos on my experience buying the ‘Venom X’ from LYTE Gaming. Gotta say it started off wobbly but still reasonable and is wrapping up a great experience all around for service , value and Future relationship. It took me 2 weeks to get(I had them replace several parts as parts were limited at the time). They are trying and are really worth a shot. Your experience made differ!!! But constructive criticism respectful back-and-forth conversation goes a very long way. When I get my CPU upgrade I will upload the videos until then if you have any questions please message me. Thanks for the video.

[@robby_zhang]

I’ve gotten multiple ads of this company on KZbin and insta... and roasted them in comments

[@2528drevas]

A very fair evaluation of the sites strengths and question marks. Well done.

[@909tylor]

I know the owner of Lyte Tech personally. I have known them since they were in their first building and in fact I was in one of their advertisements. I'll push this video their way and let them know. They are literally down the street from me. Feel free to message me with any questions.

[@derekgalbraith1508]

Why message you to have you ask them when people could just ask them directly? Seems like an unnecessary extra step.

[@909tylor]

@@derekgalbraith1508 I know their business very well. I know all

[@derekgalbraith1508]

@@909tylor OK, you know their business very well. That's awesome. But that still doesn't answer the question of why someone would insert you as a middleman in the interaction. Why have the extra step of asking you when someone could just ask the business directly? You knowing the business very well provides no advantage. The business itself also knows their business very well. Asking you just delays and confuses the process.

[@User-bx7is]

@@909tylor bro can I get your discord please so we can talk

[@cocoshort6528]

@@derekgalbraith1508 it does tho, more likley to respond, kinda of like what a music label does

[@rangerrhett6253]

My Lyte Hyper is arriving mid next week!

[@Nissanboiii]

What do you think?

[@HoloScope]

I actually saw an Ad for this yesterday

[@ZachBroughton]

Got one shortly after watching this video. Was the most cringe-worthy thing I've seen lately

[@kalmtraveler]

I get that people want to have businesses building/upgrading PCs because it's fun and your average Joe Schmoe doesn't feel confident to do it themselves or doesn't want to have to figure out how to do it - but an underlying problem I see is that there just isn't a lot of margin to be had while still charging ethically-fair prices. $100 build fee seems fine, but you notice these companies and many people trying to sell their old systems on Craiglist, FB Marketplace, etc often end up trying to jack up the parts cost beyond fair market value as well to bump their profits. This just furthers my suspicion that this isn't really a good business idea. Labor fees to build or upgrade sure, but there isn't enough fair margin to be had to run a business solely on that.

[@YungGaucho]

They seem to be somewhat honest. They’re definitely not as egregious as some other companies, but they should def polish up some of their business practices, like providing an accurate picture of what system you’re buying and accurate benchmarks for said system. Overall, not terrible imo.

[@nubsandbolts920]

5/30/22 Give LYTE Gaming is very good. I Just bought the Venox X(see other comment for specs) I gave them a shot with my $2.2k budget(pre tax) and they are much better then what I’ve heard from years prior and those were under $1.3k PCs. They went above and beyond to build my rig the way I wanted even though I didn’t get exactly what was displayed, I got far better. Should be here next week!

[@thatguywithemail1431]

I use a an I5-3470 at the moment because I built my PC from an old Optiplex 3010. It's a 3.2 Ghrtz CPU not a 3.6 as they imply.

[@pricelessppp]

Glad I got the parts I wanted separately instead of a prebuilt people are right! 😀

[@Sykeye7]

Including a paid version of Win10 in a super budget build is such a huge mistake imo...you can live with that watermark and use those 75$ to get a better CPU

[@VetsRage]

I just built another pc for 750$. The only parts I reused from my old build was the SSD 500g wd blue, and a old 500g WD 7200rpm drive and one single 140mm case fan. Everything else was bran new. I5-9600 kf, corsair ddr 4 16gig @2666, evga 1660 super. So there is no reason to buy pre-builts with parts that are 3+ years old for 600+$.

[@blizzyxx]

The 1300x is actually the same as the 2200g if not better. They have the same amount of cores/threads same base and boost clock same architecture the only difference is 2200g being an APU and the 1300x having double the L3 cache. Just thought I’d let you know that the frame rate would be literally the same maybe one more FPS for the 1300x. PS love your vids, just don’t want people to keep on thinking this common mistake

[@jackobeats4028]

My brother bought a pc from there… took 4 months to arrive but not terrible.

[@JohnSmith-xq1pz]

The case in the thumbnail looks pretty cool. I generally don't go for the flashy RGB cases,fans, etc probably because most are so loud and obnoxious.(seriously give me an old fashioned early 2000's LED lite case/fan combo any day of the week) But I like that one.

[@ChrissyParissi]

Thanks for this video, I was looking into them but I will steer clear if them now

[@pablojohn6681]

they scammed me, they sent a pc that doesn’t even work and their customer service is horrible

[@Adam-hb7qx]

Should I cancel my order and which computer did you get ?

[@aidan9822]

I actually have the Lyte Wraith, and it's a great pc

[@explicitchicken1677]

Is it actually good?

[@Matthewalsobro]

​@@explicitchicken1677 yes i personally have a lyte hyper pc and its great these guys are not scammers they just made a few mistakes

[@Studderz]

I have a Lyte onyx and it’s amazing

[@judevecoli865]

I find it hysterical that KZbin has paired this with an ad from Lyte Technologies! Otherwise, thanks for a clear item by item review.

[@lambdatoaster]

"Affordable PC with no *shortage* of power" They never knew this word was going to be used a lot in the PCMR community

[@JunohProductions]

The prices aren't too terrible for the cheaper models given the specs until you realize that they won't have a warranty and that these are likely OEM parts with a shelf life that's likely used up already.

[@demonicsweaters]

This was a fair and well put together critique. I'm sure you'll help them from this video.

[@musiclover9898]

They advertise using new and used parts. The fact that you’re breaking down the company for making a profit just backs the fact that you’re a know it all. Some people just want to buy decent pcs that play games. The pricing isn’t bad when comparing other brands. Why is it such a big deal for people to want to spend less than 1000 on a pc? And why do you feel the need to dumpster on those who can’t build their own?

[@duransstash9800]

Why are you shilling this company?

[@musiclover9898]

Box of VHS tapes I have no relation to the company at all. Nor do I care to. Just sick of elitist pc guys that think everyone is exactly like them

[@duransstash9800]

@@musiclover9898 Did you not watch the entire video? This business publishing false information at the very least out of ignorance. This is not about elitism, this is about spreading false information intentionally or not to entice an individual into buying something. I would wager it was intentional but that is besides the point.

[@camaromustangmods3327]

2021 just getting onto this and nice you shine a light on PC building sites. Can you recommend a legit company thats builds gaming pc for those who don't want to do it themselves? Great video

[@swivsad6280]

I actually bought a pc off of this website and it was the onyx one and I’ve had it for a couple months now and it works great on high and some epic settings I still get the advertised frames

[@travleg401]

They sent me a computer with the wrong gpu, i ordered a gtx1060 but instead they put a rx 580 in my computer (its obviously old because i can see a lot of dirt in the corners and cracks) they also didnt install 2 of my fans. The 1 fan they did install was just dangling by its wire when i got it lmaoo. its soo bad and its been 2 days and i still havent heard back from them yet...