Investors Bet Ketamine Treatment Will Revolutionize Mental-Health Care | WSJ

Hundreds of clinics specializing in ketamine treatment for depression, anxiety and post-traumatic stress disorder have popped up in the U.S. in recent years. Some investors are even throwing hundreds of millions of dollars into ketamine startups. How big could the market for psychedelic treatment get?
WSJ visits one clinic, Nushama, to learn why some entrepreneurs are betting that demand for ketamine will continue to rise.
0:00 Is the face of psychiatry changing?
0:41 Background on ketamine
2:53 How startups like Nushama are providing ketamine treatment
5:26 Mental health issues in America
6:21 Cost and skepticism
#Ketamine #MentalHealth #WSJ

[@george.beard2409]

Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It’s quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.

[@johntnguyen9917]

Yes, Doctor.coxx

[@darkmorning2865]

What psychedelic did it for you?

[@haught7576]

You’re allowed to take it, as long as you overpay for it

[@soxxks]

Yup, that's what I was thinking. Let's create a potential solution to depression BUT make it inaccessible to millions

[@lukaskongstad2838]

Great comment

[@finn9000]

Only in America, not in France Babe 😘

[@soxxks]

@@finn9000 Y'all got free ketamine therapy? 😯 Lucky

[@letsburn00]

That's what's so nuts. This has been well known for years. It shouldn't be that expensive.

[@nitinroy1331]

Love how they have put price tags on our suffering.

[@rod4758]

They always will

[@Goggalor1990]

I've been getting infusions for a little over a year now. It definitely helps a lot.

[@general_zizi1156]

Psilocybin containing mushrooms saved my life. The drastically reduced my benzodiazepine withdrawal allowing me to quite illicit pill addiction after three years of heavy daily use before it would had became medically dangerous to quit. It has also helped me survive depression.

[@ellaaysun6181]

@Lillian Victoria I was having this constant, unbearable anxiety due to work stress. Not until I came across *dr.jeromespores* a very intelligent mycologist. He saved my life honestly

[@ellaaysun6181]

@Lillian Victoria Use the name dr.jeromespores to check him out on. 👇🏻

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[@ohmakure4716]

@Lillian Victoria I feel the same way too. I put too much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety levels. I am also glad to be a part of this community.

[@emmabeyza6036]

@@ellaaysun6181 Does *dr.jeromespores* ship?

[@funDAYsmiling]

I’ve heard and read great things about it so I’m glad it’s worked for so many!

[@abdiver12]

I've never taken Ketamine before but I have taken 4 grams of Golden Teacher Magic Mushrooms (Psilocybin) recently. A truly lifechanging experience. Actually, that's putting it too mildly. The GREATEST single experience of my life. Literally a gateway to the next world. A doorway to heaven and the afterlife. Reunited with my late, estranged mother and reconciled. My eye shades were sodden with tears and I'm not a crier. More beautiful and loving than you could possibly imagine. Words cannot describe it. EVERYONE on earth needs to experience it.

[@Jim-Tuner]

You will chase re-creating that experience for the rest of your life. The thing is that you are not opening a doorway to anything. You are frying your brain. And eventually your going to be sitting in a corner seeing the doors of perception staring dead-headed into a strobe light. The more you use them, the more the bad effects will take hold. I guess the good thing is that your brain will be so damaged that you will not understand that anything is even wrong. Seek out people how have used these things and understand them. The positives and the negatives of them. If anyone tells you there are no dangers in them, RUN AWAY from those people.

[@abdiver12]

@@Jim-Tuner I remember thinking just like you and then I actually tried it, lol. They are not addictive and I could happily go the rest of my life without using them again. In fact, they have been proven to END addiction like smoking, drinking, and drugs not cause it. End depression, anxiety, and suicidal thoughts. Make people productive members of society. I personally know a girl who it saved from committing suicide. You should try it someday instead of just sticking with your preconceived prejudices. You have no idea what you're missing out on.

[@lincolnhaldorsen5649]

There’s an easily available drug called DXM that’s in the same class of drugs as ketamine

[@sparky-281]

@@lincolnhaldorsen5649 Is it a disso just like ket? If you got a half ounce bag of white glassy powder how would you know the difference between ketamine and dxm? I'm old skool so I've done all the usual hard drugs which were big in the 90s but I know nowadays there is things like 2cb etc. I just imagine them to be synthetic knock offs of the real stuff that was on the go 30 years ago. Am I wrong? I'm 41 but still willing to try any chemical at least once.

[@lincolnhaldorsen5649]

@@sparky-281 the new synthetic chemicals hitting the market are unique and far more powerful.

[@c0nsci0usness]

1 random psilocybin trip saved me from 5 years of multi-drug abuse. Psychedelic assisted therapy is the future.

[@trotsky54]

I love how calm all of these interviewees are whispering to the camera

[@eltoncostello7357]

1:44 "And we expect it to 2 or 3x" ... Who talks like that?.

[@pattykarcher1200]

This is extremely difficult for people who are in the last 1/4 of their life and have suffered for so long. What I wouldn't do to experience to not feel the overwhelming depression that I wake up with and go to sleep with everyday. Depression is like taking your free will of feeling happiness away from you. Then you feel guilty because you know that self loathing is a sin. So you then feel unappreciative of life. The more you try to fight the depression the more you feel like a failure. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I will never be able to afford this treatment in my lifetime. I've come to terms that this is only for wealthy depressed people. I can only hope that if I do come back in my next life that I can feel natural happiness and do everything in my power to help people who can't experience it.

[@victorsmith9684]

*Vasco_tripstore✓✓✓*

[@Phoenix-tq8lt]

Hey u ok?😊

[@yllmexixa1600]

I will pray for you to feel free a light

[@jasperjudd]

I’m sorry most of your replies are bots. In terms of ketamine treatment though, as it’s new I suggest trying to find clinics looking for new patients for research on the benefits of this treatment. Since it’s only recently started to gain recognition in the medical field, there’s still a lot of places doing clinical trials with it that will administer it for free or even pay you for your participation so that more research can be conducted on it. You just have to do your research on the upstarting ketamine treatment clinics in your area and keep an eye out online for clinical trials

[@pattykarcher1200]

@@jasperjudd yes, I'm always looking but have yet to find any. I live near Pgh Pa if you ever see something. Thank you!

[@adesso.laurenzo]

I wish we could also spend billions of dollars providing *easily accessible and affordable nutritionally-dense foods* to people--especially low-income households--and encouraging sunlight exposure and gentle exercise instead of putting so much money into the pharmaceutical industry

[@challenge1022]

We have those already and they are called broccoli, chicken, and fish

[@nottheone582]

yes AND create safe and affordable ways for folks to access care that works for them. a lot of people have issues that can't be solved by simply good diet, exercise and Vitamin D.

[@mamabear4018]

Amen to that!

[@sailorbob74133]

Any doctor can prescribe ketamine off label. It's a cheap generic. Getting therapy along with the ketamine in a beautiful clinic in downtown Manhattan is the expensive part. ES-Ketamine is only 40% as effective as the cheap generic regular ketamine.

[@keithmichael112]

I did some private studies with this, it made me feel pretty good

[@cullentaussig]

😂

[@jonniemae818]

Money always helps but I hope the spirit of whole health fuels the effort. Ketamine has been great for me as far as pain relief. And, my patient/clients are showing great relief as far as their pain and mental health. Thank all the investors who are helping with start ups for Ketamine. ❤

[@txbre8758]

I swear the internet tracks me because I was researching this a week ago and set up an appointment and then saw this lol

[@supremeprime660]

Itd help alot of people with addiction problems too itd be a quick game changer for the better im thinkn. Vets could get good treatment finally

[@Blunderful19]

Can vouch for esketamine. I don't have words for how much it has helped me.

[@EmilyLavelle-ScaryStoriesInc]

This is amazing finally I have tried the infusion and nasal spray it works I have ptsd and chronic depression it has worked wonders

[@dZaq]

Let's make this breakthrough, revolutionary treatment for SSRI resistant depression, severe anxiety, PTSD, and who knows what else.... and let's make it ~$4,500 out of pocket. For the record, I am going to experience my second dose. I am freaking lucky or blessed. Whatever you want to call it. This needs to be made affordable. It reminds me of California's Prop 215 for cannabis in 1996. There are patients that can benefit from this NOW.

[@MycoJay]

As good as this is for many, it’s a dang shame that they refuse to use treatments that can’t be patented. Makes me disgusted.

[@taylorlibby7642]

They opened one in my small mountain town. Not sure if they're doing anyone any good or not, but they're making enough money to want to open a second one.

[@geraldmiller5343]

I've heard so many wonderful things about magic mushrooms but I can't easily get some, Is there any realiable source I can purchase from??

[@evelynbecker4916]

I tried two grams last time, it was a thrilling experience and I enjoyed it

[@sebastianfelipe515]

/ dream.spores s/. jason Got psych's

[@evelynbecker4916]

@@sebastianfelipe515 where to search? Is it IG ??

[@sebastianfelipe515]

@@evelynbecker4916 Yeah, he's got magic mushrooms, LSD, dmt etc

[@geraldmiller5343]

@@sebastianfelipe515 alright, I'll reach out to him immediately to get some

[@hosplanetnk]

Awesome

[@Leonardo_559]

was able to overcome depression and anxiety which held me down for 3 years, all thanks to psychedelics, psilocybin mushrooms and LSD

[@citizenx303]

Same here, all thanks to LSD

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[@sunalwaysshinesonTVs]

K doesnt get FDA approval, as this vid pointed out, trials costs billions and K is a generic drug. Meanwhile, big pharma comes up with novel, patentable versions of K, and those do get FDA approval but patients (and insurance) pay big bucks. In a functioning democracy, govt would pay for the trials for the generic version thus making treatment widely accessible to all.

[@user-oi3yb7mm7h]

There is no place for even the minutest amount of dirt in our hearts. Alexandre Dumas once said that it is difficult to understand others, but the most difficult thing is to understand yourself. Never allow yourself to fall into any trap. Never allow the least karmic obstacle to take form, nor harbour any unwholesome thoughts in your mind.

[@Phoenix-tq8lt]

Thanks :)

[@CrimsonAlchemist]

I'm from Myanmar (Asia), we snort Ketamine powder every weekend at KTVs & Clubs. Teenagers are snorting it, 20s, 30s & 40 yrs are snorting it to party with EDM & Vena House Music. Never thought about doing it while you sit and listen to relaxed music lol. It's literally replacing Extasy/Molly in Asia. While Molly has a lot of downsides after you used it for the night, Kentamine is all good after 30 minutes.

[@YouTubeHandlesAreStupid]

The problem is that the dose needs to be just right to be benefit and have therapeutic effects from it. Can't be too much or too little

[@budsmigee1784]

I had Ketamine for a stent being put in because I had a kidney stone it was better then my first opioid experience I do fentenly and not even that felt half as good

[@CrimsonAlchemist]

@@budsmigee1784 Don't touch fetenly those aren't good for u

[@budsmigee1784]

@@CrimsonAlchemist oh believe me I know I've been on it for 5 years but I do snort I have a no needle policy very addictive

[@themightypotato3857]

be very careful. using ketamine responsibly / for a reason is not the same as shooting yourself into orbit in clubs every weekend. nothing against simply taking drugs to trip your brain out, but you still gotta be careful. long-term ketamine (abuse) will tremendously destroy your kidneys. mixing it with alcohol is deadly. be careful all I'm saying.

[@levinotjeans]

People said the photograph would replace artists, the record player would replace musicians, and the computer would replace graphic designers; these fields were all heavily disrupted by these technologies but ultimately these technologies became techniques or disciplines of their own. Technology cannot replace the human deciding what is good, tasteful, or relevant; so perhaps ai art will be more like found art or curating a museum, but those are artforms themselves.

[@hennessyblack5891]

How much was that cost 💲

[@Larry21924]

This is absolute perfection. I recently read a similar book, and it was absolute perfection. "Your Body Your Temple" by Sophia Wintergreen

[@claudiamelisa7]

Do mushrooms work similarly?

[@dontchawanttoknow304]

Well that articles wrong it’s in Oklahoma too

[@klmklmklm2581]

Billions of dollars for FDA testing of a drug? Source?

[@dmtdreamz7706]

There was a very strange feature in this case, strange because of its extremely rare occurrence. This man had once been brought to the scaffold in company with several others, and had had the sentence of death by shooting passed upon him for some political crime. Twenty minutes later he had been reprieved and some other punishment substituted; but the interval between the two sentences, twenty minutes, or at least a quarter of an hour, had been passed in the certainty that within a few minutes he must die. I was very anxious to hear him speak of his impressions during that dreadful time, and I several times inquired of him as to what he thought and felt. He remembered everything with the most accurate and extraordinary distinctness, and declared that he would never forget a single iota of the experience. ‘About twenty paces from the scaffold, where he had stood to hear the sentence, were three posts, fixed in the ground, to which to fasten the criminals (of whom there were several). The first three criminals were taken to the posts, dressed in long white tunics, with white caps drawn over their faces, so that they could not see the rifles pointed at them. Then a group of soldiers took their stand opposite to each post. My friend was the eighth on the list, and therefore he would have been among the third lot to go up. A priest went about among them with a cross: and there was about five minutes of time left for him to live. ‘He said that those five minutes seemed to him to be a most interminable period, an enormous wealth of time; he seemed to be living, in these minutes, so many lives that there was no need as yet to think of that last moment, so that he made several arrangements, dividing up the time into portions-one for saying farewell to his companions, two minutes for that; then a couple more for thinking over his own life and career and all about himself; and another minute for a last look around. He remembered having divided his time like this quite well. While saying good- bye to his friends he recollected asking one of them some very usual everyday question, and being much interested in the answer. Then having bade farewell, he embarked upon those two minutes which he had allotted to looking into himself; he knew beforehand what he was going to think about. He wished to put it to himself as quickly and clearly as possible, that here was he, a living, thinking man, and that in three minutes he would be nobody; or if somebody or something, then what and where? He thought he would decide this question once for all in these last three minutes. A little way off there stood a church, and its gilded spire glittered in the sun. He remembered staring stubbornly at this spire, and at the rays of light sparkling from it. He could not tear his eyes from these rays of light; he got the idea that these rays were his new nature, and that in three minutes he would become one of them, amalgamated somehow with them. ‘The repugnance to what must ensue almost immediately, and the uncertainty, were dreadful, he said; but worst of all was the idea, ‘What should I do if I were not to die now? What if I were to return to life again? What an eternity of days, and all mine! How I should grudge and count up every minute of it, so as to waste not a single instant!’ He said that this thought weighed so upon him and became such a terrible burden upon his brain that he could not bear it, and wished they would shoot him quickly and have done with it.’

[@PeterPaijuk]

I got Ketamin for a dental issue I had and after being clean of drugs for 4 years and suffering from depression and difficulties that no medication was able to help me with I have had an amazing Experian switched my prespecrige extremely Just wow

[@diegoaguilar6602]

The "Psychedelec medical center" feels allot more like an opium den

[@letsburn00]

Why? If it's a highly effective treatment, then it's effective. By far the biggest problem is that the price for a generic medicine in these cases is charged at 100X what it could be. Psychedelics appear to be effective, the only issue is that people aren't making huge amounts of money, but the medical approval process is built around big companies pushing solutions to charge $1000/week. When really, it should be maybe $40/month.

[@diegoaguilar6602]

@@letsburn00 the way i see it, the best cure is prevention, while some have hormonal imbalances, everyone is depressed when times are inevitably hard, i hope i don't have to list off the flaws of american society and the world at large, their are too many, the point is, you can help people cope with emotional pain, but it wont make the world they live in actually better, giving someone ketamine feels an awful lot like treating a symptom while leaving the underlying disease untouched

[@letsburn00]

@@diegoaguilar6602 I think that is true. But one aspect is that a lot of people develop mental health issues because of stuff that happens in their childhood much of which is linked to poverty. The problem is that positive things done in childhood only shows up in the depression data 30 years later. At which point, we need to try to treat/cure. But government efforts to reduce child suffering gets huge pushback already. So going to do more is a big uphill battle until those who pushback stop getting voted for.

[@diegoaguilar6602]

@@letsburn00 aw man maybe if the people weren't giving all their money to drug manufacturers they would stop bribing politicians to act against the publics beat interest the public wouldn't need all the drugs to cope with the terrible socioeconomic system they live in huh?

[@Jim-Tuner]

Psychedlics are the new opioids. Just as opioids were pushed as the universal cure-all for everything and massively over-perscribed, we are going through the same cycle with these drugs. Its all the same. Crackpoint science. Massive amounts of money involved. Advertising campaigns in the media and the complicity of just about the whole of society in doing this. Over-use and over-perscription of the drugs. A massive human cost down the road.

[@IanJidas]

Ketamine helps with addiction too as crazy as it sounds.

[@roshanjayakody7460]

Wow good

[@averageboi5195]

some people know nothing about ketamine, and it shows.

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[@PanteraRossa]

Ketamine is not a psychedelic. It's a dissociative.

[@cullentaussig]

What’s an example of another dissociative?

[@frozenintime]

@@cullentaussig pcp

[@captainheartspace6583]

Nitrous oxide

[@kannabis4575]

No it actually is a type of psychedelic

[@kannabis4575]

A dissociative yes but also a psychedelic

[@BrandonCalhoun-ge2gz]

I'm very very depressed, I have been on numerous drugs to treat my depression to no avail.I am desperate , though, I'm also a former drug addict with several convictions for drug possession I feel like I'm not abiding by the Iowa laws if in possession of this antidepressant.Is this a sister legalization both state and federal?

[@neonnyx2728]

Ugh the cost of mental health. I'll just try the street version. 😔

[@auro1986]

why cnbc didn't tell investors to bet on cnbc for selling their drugs

[@JohnSmith-bm6zg]

MK Ultra 2.0

[@Jim-Tuner]

Opioid crisis 2.0

[@oliviao2238]

Sometimes what works in Vietnam may not work for people that actually want something more extreme but not horizontal

[@bobbycepeda-smith2586]

I just had a very bad accident three day at work that made me lose most of my fingers in my hand I can work both of my hands so when I lost my left one in the use of it all it's putting me in a very bad place right now when this accident happened was on 9/11 2023 I was I'm speaking out right now crying for help I need help

[@thereporter3690]

Ketamine doesn’t work for everyone, different custom doses for those who need it which means we need more practitioners to prescribe them. Who wants to go to school?

[@davidsauls9542]

As a 30 year Neuropsychiatrist, this "trend" makes me want to Vomit!! This was evaluated and rightfully discarded long ago.

[@taylorlibby7642]

I don't have your degree or experience, but having spent time on the East Coast corridor during the height of the opioid crisis these just look like the old "pain clinics" under a new coat of paint.

[@davidsauls9542]

@@taylorlibby7642 AMEN !!!!

[@sailorbob74133]

Why? Our daughter was given IM Ketamine for suicidal ideation and it helped her. My wife's a doctor and she learned about it in medical school which is why we sought out that treatment.

[@Jim-Tuner]

People want a magic cure for mental illness. They want to get around the hard work of dealing with the problems by just "pilling" them away. What they don't understand is that these drugs don't cure anything. They just suppress the unpleasant outward symptoms for a while. Then eventually you end up with an even more damaged person with even more problems. But nobody is listening. Just as with the pain pills, money and the elite have made the decision.

[@Jim-Tuner]

@@RM... You might want to look at who is funding most of that positive research. And also ask yourself why so much exclusively positive research is coming out. What I can tell you is that there is decades of older research that quantifies exactly why this not a magic cure for mental illness and what the horrible long-term consequences of irresponsible over-use of these substances is going to be. What the people you personally know are eventually going to discover is that its not a cure. It simply suppresses the symptoms for a while. And the longer the substances are used, the more the consequences of their use are going to be apparent. "traditional" antidepressants are equally bad. The vomit is because some of us lived through something exactly similar to this with the over-perscription of pain pills and the commerical development of "pain clinics" which dispensed dangerous drugs to people who shouldn't have been given them. We watched the same pattern of studies promising everything under the sun for pain pills, nobody listened then and the same thing is happening again. Seeing all this happen again makes some of us vomit. Now you know. You have a choice to either listen or not. If you choose to ignore the warnings, you will have no one to blame in a few years other than yourself.

[@purpleprose1315]

The Kowalski vs JHACH trial is pretty much a trial about Ketamine and how the treatment can get your kids taken away.

[@HitGardenStudio]

The price makes me depressive

[@klmklmklm2581]

You don't need a specific treatment to make you happy. There are many other options that are free! just a kind word

[@HitGardenStudio]

@@klmklmklm2581 👍

[@themightypotato3857]

@@klmklmklm2581 your kind of rhetoric is actually what gets people killed. "you don't have a problem, it's all in your head. kumbaja my lord come to church with me. everyone holds hands." just stop.

[@snrsparkes5437]

'Profits Over People' people !!!!

[@brianthompson6437]

What is the Best Ketamine Stock to buy now. Anyone ?

[@tb7-rf1fb]

Ask ChatGPT maybe?

[@Jack-ys2qj]

FREE KET WOO

[@Kris-sh8qc]

I have 2 KITs left, I take and would ad that L-Methofolate is amazing you really should read about it to

[@mr.cleanone3900]

So I’m an alcoholic with bad lungs and bad heart . Do I don’t qualify . Weed shall suffice 😢

[@eddiejamesmagic4207]

Even once you get over depression ketamine is still a whole Lotta fun every once and a while once or twice a year at most

[@eddiejamesmagic4207]

@Three fiddy once again the lockness monster came to my door and you know what he wanted!?!?! Three fiddy and I said no loconess monster I ain't got no tree fitty (south park joke from the lochness monster episode if you don't get what I was referring to)

[@eddiejamesmagic4207]

Thank you for trying to reach out and trying to help people look for the tools they may need

[@eddiejamesmagic4207]

Just in case anyone reads this i didn't try this out so I have no idea if it's a legit plug or not so I'm not advocating nor do I know if it works I was just sayin I like a line of k here n there when it comes my way!! Stay safe peeps

[@djayjp]

Injections will never take off like nasal sprays or pills.

[@IceveinsProductions]

Did 6 sessions for $3,000 in a hope to treat my medication resistant PTSD and OCD. All it did was put my brain into a terrifying black hole meshed with the incomprehensible molecular structure of the universe and pray for a return to normalcy for an hour. It was a complete waste of money that had no long lasting effects for me.

[@sunshine9717]

Well, you know the old saying, " Everything that sparkles isn't gold" its the same thing with this drug. Folks who offer these services will hype it up as the best of the best treatment for the depression. Because they see 🤑 dollar signs floating all around them. Some folks will benefit and others will say, nope it did nothing for me. But as time passes. We shall see if this is a miracle drug or not.

[@tricallyourmama]

Soooo basically we could do K if the govt can control it and tax it? Control and tax all drugs then silly

[@TheWOOKiii503]

4500 for 6 doses no way

[@deshpardeshkochautari8910]

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[@themightypotato3857]

don't make these people rich. you definitely do not need to overpay for ketamine. the fact that for years people have been put in prison for all of this stuff and now doctors make a huge amount of cash with it rubs me very much the wrong way. i mean great, at least it's half-accepted now. but still. I personally continue to do whatever I want. and these people ain't gonna see a dime from me.

[@themightypotato3857]

@Three fiddy nobody asked.

[@Marylandbrony]

Ahoy SpongeBob! I've overdosed on Ketamine and i'm going to die! Argh argh argh argh.

[@rod4758]

lol it’s only 300. In texas

[@mrs_Mccoy]

I got some Ketamine infusions from an online store

[@mrs_Mccoy]

from tripwith_jeff

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in instagram

[@sunshine9717]

Did I hear $4000 dollars for 6 treatments. Well, that's depressing. If you really want to make money, it's not going to happen just with the wealthy coming in for treatments. The smart move, is to open the door to the hard working folks, by offering payment plans, excepting insurance or two for one deals or buy a one week treatment plan get 2 days free. Now you save money and more people will be interested in coming into your establishment for treatment. Well that's my two cents of how I would market my business. 😊 PS: Lots of things can be exclusive. Until your not making money.😉

[@MrQbenDanny]

Side effects?

[@Jim-Tuner]

toxins associated with the drug build up in the body over time. The body also develops a tolerance to the drug leading to people needing more of it for the same effect which increases the danger associated with taking it. All psycadelic drugs tend to lead in the long run to brain damage of one sort or another. They are not addictive, but people can become dependent on them to function over time.

[@MrQbenDanny]

@@Jim-Tuner Great comment 👍, well put. I agree.

[@Jim-Tuner]

@@RM... And I get the sense that you are a pharma rep or work in the industry. You carefully avoid any of the negatives by insisting that everyone is following a limited "standard" use of ketamine and that no one is giving treatments any other way. And are we really going to pretend that Ketamine toxicity is not a thing? That all the research and the medical papers somehow don't exist? That the stuff widely available on the internet through a basic google search isn't there? I mean really. What is your game here?

[@Repz98]

Hospital near me in Norway, Kalnes. is the first hospital that are running experiment on people. they also experiment with mdma.

[@shadrach6299]

Make it affordable

[@michaelmatos818]

4500 or 100 bucks for a gram of k

[@tonivaripati5951]

book a flight to INDIA, and get treatment in India, it's a ripp off in London 7k for ketamine, wot a joke

[@bradvincet1848]

Maybe it works, but keep in mind that most content on KZbin is a form of solicitation.

[@lauren1779]

I don’t care about profitability ; people are dying . We all need help and we need affordable help.

[@sxrvsvct7911]

Nice

[@miakialchemy]

Long time CIA fav. Yeah, think I'll pass on that. WSJ, you have truly become pigs.

[@vedantgupta01]

Curb your Capatalism. Cure for Depression.

[@ai_robozen]

Same investors are experienced psychedelic users? Lol the mechanism of action for ketamine is what real treatment should focus on, rather than archaic methods

[@Jim-Tuner]

The research was done a long time ago. These things just suppress outward symptoms. They don't really "treat" the underlying condition at all.

[@DeeOne88]

How long before we start seeing commercials on tv/web from law firms asking people to call them if they have lost a loved one due to the taking of ketamine usage?

[@Jim-Tuner]

Seven years.

[@Jim-Tuner]

@@RM... I begin to get the impression that you work in the industry. You talk like a phrama rep and you never say anything about the negatives.

[@parispj2018]

That statement doesn’t make sense if it’s done in a clinical center, I mean it’s even used for going under surgeries. We’re talking medicinal usage not in a recreational setting or mindset

[@litojonny]

people paying for expensive naps

[@yesvember11]

You’re not asleep when you do a ketamine infusion, they don’t actually make you fall asleep. At all.

[@mibox8302]

K is fun but the k hole ends too fast

[@budsmigee1784]

I need this so so bad it's not even funny I also wish I could get Propofol

[@jamesdavid7599]

Davidlushano got psychedelic, check on

[@jamesdavid7599]

Instagram

[@taylorlibby7642]

This feels like the beginning of another opioid crisis. They look just like the old "pain clinics" under a new coat of paint.

[@diegoaguilar6602]

I KNOW RIGHT!!!

[@Magnulus76]

Not to mention that for a minority of users, ketamine can become addictive. It can also damage the kidneys with cumulative use.

[@antonelloc4864]

Addiction doesn't work like that. How many soldiers come back from war not getting addicted to opiods? It depends on many factors, it's not just a molecule that does everything. This is misinformation spread by the media.

[@taylorlibby7642]

@@antonelloc4864 Horsepoop. Maybe you don't remember all of the "pain clinics" and how they fostered and spread the opioid addiction crisis, but I do. Go gaslight somewhere else.

[@nottheone582]

ketamine is not addictive. most psychedelics aren't either. this is very different from opioids that lead to serious addiction issues like heroin and crack. Ketamine is not a "gateway" drug in that sense.

[@axelfoley1508]

Just another treatment for the symptom, not the cause.

[@sonikakataria3730]

Please make a ketamine treatment which is possible to afford in country like India patients need it very badly

[@akhiy5384]

Hey I'm from Indian suffering PTSD due to Traumatic event of abuse 5years back.even im expecting the affordable treatment in country like India

[@usedfuture4870]

Unfortunately, ketamine and spravato are hardly even affordable in the U.S. Clinics have to monitor patients and will usually not accept insurances. Spravato could of a been a revolutionary medication had it been allowed to been administered at home.

[@akhiy5384]

What about MdMa I've head good things about it and already in human trials

[@Nicolas-uu3jr]

Ketamine-defence girl is hot 😍

[@carljohnson1160]

Like whos on k and watching this

[@marqueswilsonn]

They always wanna make that money. Gotta patent it.

[@seantyler7401]

Ah yes. Horse paste bad. Big cat tranquilizer good. Got it.

[@averageboi5195]

yeah, because anti parasite horse medicine has been shown to not work. ketamine isn't just a horse tranquilizer though, it was developed as a sedative, and has been shown to improve mental well-being.

[@wickway]

"members not patients" just call them Americans not patients.

[@Clark-Mills]

This is exactly what is wrong with the american health system...

[@kennethdiego3098]

I recommend you hit up this legit plug they're very reliable ship to any location they've got Adderall shrooms ketamine dmt,lsd,spores,microdose and other psychedelic stuffs

[@kennethdiego3098]

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[@kennethdiego3098]

They're on Instagram .....

[@bl5752]

Rather than fixing society, let's just get everyone high.

[@Jim-Tuner]

These drugs are the new opioids. The cycle will simply repeat itself.

[@sjwimmel]

What if getting 'high' helps people break through their unhealthy patterns, like depression or PTSD, and therefore helps fix society?

[@sjwimmel]

@@itsame9780 I agree that depression and PTSD are not conditions you choose to have. What I meant was that they are, in a way, thought patterns, often subconscious and out of our control but still patterns. Certain drugs (ketamine, MDMA, LSD) have been shown to help either bring these patterns into the conscious mind so you can change them, or make it easier to deal with them without all their emotional load.

[@SunsetAngel69]

Just like Oxycodone, Ketamine will be like replacing one drug with another

[@bostonluyasar7045]

It will treat you, or you'll suffer from psychosis for the rest of your life.

[@GlobalDrifter1000]

Slimy guys

[@TheVkaz]

nxt loot by pharma corps

[@reactorflight4798]

Dexter Morgan

[@Goodie1120]

Ketamine is not a psychedelic

[@enonh82]

We’re still focusing on addressing the symptoms of depression rather than the root causes: Lack of community, inequality, diet and lifestyle.

[@Kythlo]

You forgot the biggest one: Capitalism.

[@djayjp]

Bingo

[@nottheone582]

ketamine used in sessions with forms of talk therapy can be really effective for processing trauma. we can't heal our planet until we first heal ourselves. it will never work... too many broken selfish people due to broken selfish parents

[@spacetoast7783]

@@Kythlo Where can I find the RCT for that?

[@brettknoss486]

@@Kythlo if you think that planned economies do not cause poverty and that shortages do not cause stress depression or suicide, you are delusional.

[@rayshinglin4144]

getting high legally

[@PaulineRaabe_]

Only for the wealthy

[@TheFMBBCBM]

Deus pátria família liberdade Bolsonaro o melhor presidente do Brasil e do mundo inteiro!