Invisible Muslims - Africa in the Qur'an with Dr. Rudolph Bilal Ware

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You guys took it to the other extreme. Moses was not European nor African. He was Middle Eastern. It is normal for the Middle East people to be white, wheaty, brown or dark brown. You can find a range of colors within the same family.

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In Islamic tradition though Moses is portrayed as very black, as per the description of the Prophet Muhammad: The Prophet may Allah’s peace and blessings be upon him mentioned the night of his Ascension and said, “The prophet Moses was Adam ( dark brown to jet black ) , as tall as if he was from the men of the tribe of Shanu’a (an Arab tribe). وَذَكَرَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم لَيْلَةَ أُسْرِيَ بِهِ فَقَالَ ‏”‏ مُوسَى آدَمُ طُوَالٌ كَأَنَّهُ مِنْ رِجَالِ شَنُوءَةَ ‏”‏‏ (Sahih al-Bukhari 3395, 3396 Book 60, Hadith 69) Furthermore, Egypt and Israel are on the African plate. The "Middle East" is a construct created by British colonists to describe their middle eastern territories. It doesn't have much use beyond this as both from an ethno-lingusitic, and bio-geological perspective Egypt and Israel are clearly a part of Africa. This is not to say there were no light skinned Hebrews though the Hebrews in Egypt were probably mostly dark-skinned at the time of Moses. Which wouldn't be surprising considering that in Muslim tradition Shem and Ham are also portrayed as "Black" and this was the lineage of Moses. These people progressively became lighter skinned though during the Roman imperial period the Hebrews in particular (less so with the Egyptians) were still portrayed as darker, brown-skinned people.

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@@inhumanhyena Adam does not mean black otherwise he would have described him as aswad (black). Adam means asmar (brown). Geographically Egypt is part of North Africa but Palestine is in Aisha. North Africans are not black Africans. They are a mixture of Arabs and Berbers. Isrealites were origionally Aisians even though they lived in Egypt for some time. You should not categorize people as black Africans just because they have dark color. Black Africans have other features such as African hair, nose and lips in addition to dark color. Even ladies bodys are different. I know that middile east is a recent name but what I meant is South West Aisia. The British call this area as the Near East and India the Middle East but the Americans changed this.

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@@shihabshihabi Well according to the linguistic scholar Abū Mansūr al-Tha’labī (d. 427/1036) "adam" is certainly within the variation of colors we today call "black" in English. Al-Tha'labi writes in Fiqh Al-Lugha: "If the blackness of a person exceeds asmar (brown), then he is adam." Most people who are called "Black" today are dark brown, and adam is but a shade of dark-brown like one of a number of dark shades which the Arabs used to associate with themselves. Moses' blackness is fairly uncontroversial within the current Muslim community, and even very mainstream scholars such as Omar Suleiman aknowledge it. Also Isa (pbuh) is widely reported to be of a dark complexion. The Prophet Muhammad's (pbuh) own cousin and son and law 'Ali (pbuh) is described as "shadeed al-udma". The Prophet's adopted son Zayd b. Haritha (d. 629) was described as ādam shadīd al-udma, the same complexion as Bilal (the first mu'adhin). Zayd was also reported to have had a flat nose (unlike the part Ethiopian Bilal), and Zayd was from the Bedouin tribe known as Banu Kalb. So you see it's not a matter of being from Africa or not, hence we call a group of American people "Black Americans" when they are the color of Obama (who is at most "asmar" by the standards of ancient Arabians). And even asmar (brown) is likened to blackness as Tha'labi explains in his “classifications of human blackness" (fī tartīb sawād al-insān): “...if his maximum [blackness] (alāhu) is less than sawad (black), then he is asmar. If his blackness is greater with yellow enhancing it then he is aṣham. If his blackness exceeds al-sumra then he is ādam. If it exceeds that, then it is asḥam. If his blackness is intense, then he is adlam. [Fiqh al-lugha, 82]. The Arabs did distinguish between Black Arabians and Black Africans though sawad was used for certain Arabs as well, so skin color wasn't the determining factor. There were physical traits that distinguished Bantu African features, though there were occasions when even these features appeared amongst "pure Arabs". It seems excessive to get into so many examples but I can send you some reading if you're interested. Also Israel is certainly on the African plate. Look it up. Furthermore there are actually Black Berbers (Tuaregs on average are "Black") and also Black Arabs (Sudanese Arabs on average and many Bedouins coincidentally). We're talking skin color, not continent of origin. It's incredibly ironic that you're restricting blackness to Africans and a specific set of features yet describing native African Berbers as non-Blacks. Can't have it both ways. Paternal Y DNA confirms a relationship between light-skinned North Africans and darker skinned Sub-Saharan Africans. What's the relevance of the initial continental distinction you were making? Also Africans don't even have a unified phenotype (hence the north Africans you mentioned) because Africa is a big continent like Asia and is witness to a number of historical movements of people. The average Habesha and the average Zulu look fairly different, despite relatedness perhaps more distantly. Africa is home to 4 foot Mibuti people and 7 foot Nioltes. You don't decide who or what Africans are.

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@@inhumanhyena ورأيت عيسى فإذا هو رجل ربعة أحمر كأنما خرج من ديماس Here Isa pbuh was described as red and scholars therefore said his color may be between brown and red as he was described as adam in another authentic hadeeth.

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@@shihabshihabi yeah I've seen the Hadith reporting he was "red" but there's also this one: Narrated Salim from his father: No, By Allah, the Prophet (ﷺ) did not say that Jesus was of red complexion but said, "While I was asleep circumambulating the Ka`ba (in my dream), suddenly I saw a man of brown complexion. He was the son of Mary. I believe there are a few variations. Again, Omar Suleiman has a video somewhere about this you can check out on KZbin where he discusses the disagreement about Isa's (pbuh) color.

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