iPad Pro M4 After 2 Weeks: NOT What It Seems!

[@AnandaGarden]

I'm 82, have used small computers since 1983 (Morrow Micro Decision 1). In the early '90s a buddy got hold of, wow, a 40MHz (?) DOS machine. When I asked him what he wanted to do with all that power, he said, "I just want to sit and watch it and let it blow my socks off." Honest. I got the M2 11 which is major hot chili sauce for my needs. I wanted an M chip for apps that already need it (video editing) or soon will. Other than that I use forScore for music (I sing) and am exploring note-taking (I write). I can't sing or write that fast, but who cares? I want to see it blaze through audio/visual chores.

[@tsalikaki]

Wow I was born in 83 and my first computer was a commodore 64

[@__Patrick]

Awesome! Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@AnandaGarden]

@@tsalikaki Cool. It was a very different world back then. As an editor, I firmly believe the last great editor for wordslingers was WordStar. Stupid that there's such a huge business opportunity that has never been realized. Everybody writes, and many will accept a learning curve as the price of doing it effectively and delightfully.

[@Big_Tex]

I’m sure all of us old timers have heard some version of this, but I do recall about 1992 when a coworker confidently asserted: a 386 is all the computer you’ll ever need!

[@dr_sriraviteja]

Thanks for sharing your experience sir. Even as a 30 years old, I feel that i have seen a lot from floppy disks to On demand video services! I can’t even begin to imagine what all you have experienced in this lifetime! May Lord bless you with health and happiness 🙏

[@IzzyTrujillo862]

I bought the 11” M4 Pro and I basically replaced my 2017 15” MacBook Pro as of right now. I’m a student and work full time. I use the iPad for blackboard, writing papers, and reading both research papers and all kinds of books. During my free time I love to edit RAW photos I took with the iPhone. I also love watching KZbin/Netflix on it and love the true blacks. Overall I am content. I haven’t used my MacBook in a while, so let’s see how long I can keep this going.

[@hamedizzy5137]

Ya that’s a pretty dated MacBook I don’t think you’ll be using that again.

[@IsabelleAnn425]

Wow I have the same idea! I am a student and I'm going to replace my MacBook Air 2017 with an 11-inch M4 iPad Pro. Even now, I'm using my old iPad 9th-generation all the time and my MacBook only for typing notes ;) Unfortunately, I will be using a normal Bluetooth keyboard from Logitech instead of a Magic Keyboard - it's too expensive ;v I can't wait!

[@Daniel-qm8bq]

I went from a MacBook to an iPad Pro 12.9” 2018… haven’t looked back since. Can do just about everything I need on an iPad that I did on a Mac. You need to think of it like going from windows to Mac OS. It’s a change. iPad OS has some limitations, but those limitations are driven by app developers. Look at your job and what programs you use. If iPad doesn’t support it, don’t buy it.

[@IsabelleAnn425]

hahah update I bought 13 inch. Love it !!!!

[@peepssantana559]

Hey! I’m planning on getting myself the IPad Pro as well. What storage do you have/ or you recommend for a full time student??

[@k.vn.k]

11” M4 is the perfect iPad for anyone. It IS a complete different way to operate than conventional Mac and I love that about it. So easy and simple, yet so powerful underneath. So light you can carry it with you all the time, inside and outside. So versatile it is you can use it for work and fun, at anytime. No booting required, no loading apps required. Touch the screen and you are in instantly.

[@k.vn.k]

@garettw1678 Exactly that some people never learnt the key difference between iPad and iPhone is just weird. The screen size, and accessories alone like keyboard and pencil make a huge difference in how do you use them, for everything from productivity to leisure (iPad is more suitable), or from phone call to taking photo (iPhone is more suitable).

[@Bigheadedwon]

@garettw1678 It's much more than a phone. I use mine to edit video, with the Davinci Speed Editor & Micro Color Panel, I pick it over my 12600k desktop to edit video 90% of the time. I have to hooked up to an external monitor and it's near perfect. The M4 in it's faster than the latest Intel 14900k CPU, which is nuts. While it's super expensive and extremely overkill for most people who mostly use their device for media consumption. The screen on it so much better than any other tablet out there, with the exception of the Galaxy Tab S10 Ultra. Which costs even more than this. As a portable device for watching Netflix, there's nothing close to as good. For someone who watches a lot of Netflix, if they can afford it, it's as good as you'll get. The screen's so nice I find myself using it over my TV to watch content a lot of the time.

[@usnightm4re]

I bought the iPad M4 13" and I'll be honest I'm a sucker when it comes down to drop my money on apple products lol. I owned a MacBook Pro 16, and don't need my iPad to be a MacBook Pro, but after paying 1700 plus for the whole bundle ( Magic Keyboard and Apple Pencil pro) I feel like it should be something more interesting about using a iPad Pro, it feels like a giant iPhone. the only thing I appreciate this iPad is when I open PDF's like Architectural Drawings when I'm working, and when I want to watch something at the couch, like Netflix or KZbin.( my s24 ultra can do that as well ) with that said, I think apple should create something unique with iPad OS, they don't need to make it a MacBook but they should try something like DEX where it could be a iPad and some sort of Water down Mac OS when Docked. to justify that 1700 plus pice tag 🤷🏻‍♂

[@imanidiamondz1975]

I agree

[@eyup26]

Just buy the air?

[@usnightm4re]

@@eyup26 does the Air have Oled or 120hz display M4 chipset or face id? You don’t get the point

[@eyup26]

@@usnightm4re i get it you want premium spec with cheap price:) apple just offers the air model for medium need. I also like pros specs but there is the air.

[@usnightm4re]

@@eyup26 your just hating and your point make zero sense, so 800 plus dollars difference is justify according to you for an Oled display, 120hz and m4 chip? of course if I want to get the best specs I have to pay to play. same deal with the MacBook if you want mini LED and 120hz you have to go with the pro even if your not a Pro user. so by you saying there's the air, your part of the problem on why Apple keeps doing this type of things. cheap out is not a thing here, but if that's what you believe power to you brother.

[@TRTUFC]

If you’ve stacked two iPads together, then maybe the other iPad’s camera bump might have scratched the screen on your iPad Pro. This happened a lot to other KZbinrs when unboxing multiple iPhones to compare colors and stacking them on top of each other.

[@taron.y]

I blows me away that the OS and form factor is the same with a more powerful chip, and people thought day one there would be a different use case? It is built for the future and we must wait on developers to deliver the change in use. I knew that going in. In the meantime, I am enjoying my new screen, speed, and 11 inch instead of my old 13 inch.

[@Rfhuir343]

I second that!

[@briannhinton]

I think people are just tired of having to say the same thing. The iPad is hampered by the OS.

[@Dk-qf8dd]

Awesome evolving hardware. Same crappy limiting OS. 😢

[@MyJW24]

I mean that seems to be the sales pitch of most tech products these days, it’ll be better in the future. This device is out now, and apple put the m4 in an iPad before the Mac so that you’d buy it today. And yet, there’s basically no reason to buy it over last year’s cheaper model.

[@slurp3194]

You buy a product for what it is right now not what the company promises it will be in the future. Apple has had the same promise since the m1 iPad Pro came out and even before that. Smh I think your the own that’s the problem. You need to analyze and see that their marketing promises don’t match the product at all and for the price it’s extremely disappointing for all the optimistic users.

[@souravdewan7653]

Your iPad wallpaper is epic man

[@flitetym]

The very first thing I did to my iPad M4 was put a Zagg “InvisibleShield” screen protector on it. The predominant purpose of a tablet is portability, therefore protection against nicks and scratches is paramount. Why anyone would not protect a $1K+ device escapes my ability to comprehend.

[@JackieDElia]

Great video - so much covered here. On the color - It’s actually called Space Black vs Space Gray. I did not care for the black version with excessive fingerprints. I bought the silver and happy with it. I only update my iPad every 4-5 years so this year the M4 made it worth the upgrade - my 3rd gen iPad Pro was already replaced once due to USB-C port issues where it stopped charging. For me, AppleCare+ is a must. Apple now lets you switch to monthly AppleCare+ when your 2 year plan expires or you can just go monthly from day one (for a little bit more). For me, I use my MacBook Pro for work and my iPad for everything else.

[@MARAMARAMARA83150]

My 2018 STILL crushing it. 4gb ram and no problems. Only thing that sucks if I can’t get Final Cut Pro, but I use luma fusion and it works SOOOOO good. I get to save my money another year.

[@Skywohka]

Using a 2017 iPad Pro still to produce all of my music and visual art! Time for an upgrade for me though, it's been good. You'll be fine for another year or two.

[@deathdragon1466]

I think that’s the same idea as why I’m going to buy the m4 11, it feels like they’ve added something now that feels like it’ll be future proof for at least a little bit. Hoping that 6 years from now I can say the same thing as you 🤞🤞

[@winstonsmith935]

Computer user since 1978, now retired with an iPad M1, it does 70% of what I want, but wish I could use it same as my Mac Mini, for people retired that would be a big help instead of still having to maintain a Mac OS system.

[@StanimirDoranovic]

Here, I bought an iPad Pro 13 Inch, 1 TB, Magic Keyboard, and Pencil Pro. Everything is beautifully designed: the OLED screen, the keyboard, the processor speed... But, people, for heaven's sake! Apple still doesn't have the software for such a product! They are trying to sell us a laptop with iPhone software (and we are agreeing to it!). The file system is useless, the cursor is terrible, selection and copy-paste don't work, almost all programs except a few from Apple look just like they do on the iPhone and have extremely minimal baby functions (Capture One, Photoshop, LR...), making them impossible to use. Even for fullscreen mode or closing a window, you have to click three times! Anyone who bought an iPad Pro should return the device to Apple after the WWDC in June, citing the reason: non-existent "pro" software for the iPad "Pro" device!

[@unemployicus]

ios 18

[@Harkonscabinet]

It's on purpose of course. I too feel it's immensely powerful but completely gimped. It could be a laptop replacement easily but it ends up somewhere between a laptop and a toy.

[@davem.2788]

I purchased the 13" M4 Ipad Pro with cellular and absolutely love it. I don't need it to replace my 16" MacBook Pro - but I do love it for what I use it for as an Ipad. Apple has developed such an enormous following that fans will upgrade to the new devices, even if they don't need to.

[@TheFutureLooksGrimm]

I ordered the cellular m4 texture model as well from my mobile provider but they aren’t able to ship until aug 2nd :/

[@DBX79]

I picked up the 13” M4, and I personally think it’s too large for me. Unless you plan on using it at home I don’t think I’d be using it during my commutes, or at work. I may return it, and get the 11”

[@zachplm]

the 11 inch looks perfect for commuting.

[@HQuiD]

I thought the same but it takes time to get used to it, I can’t go back to the smaller screen

[@andyH_England]

Yes, 11-inch is ideal for out and about.

[@deanemberley2333]

I sized down and glad I did

[@DBX79]

@@deanemberley2333 The funny thing is I looked at the 11”, and it seems to small. I’d like the base model to be about 12” in size. That’d be perfect!

[@eddiehaymaker]

First time watching your content and I am impressed. In a world of either having someone approach us like a used car salesman or as a cynical self promoting insult machine that trashes everything, it was good to get a thoughtful analysis based on real usage of said device. I subscribed and look forward to viewing more of your tech reviews. 👍

[@VynZography]

He's right. Really ballanced analysis.

[@BigJeezie]

The iPad Pro is a content consumption device. End of story. Apple never has nor ever will allow it to replace the Macbook. Every year, these review videos are all the same. "Can't Macbook my Ipad Pro." Well, no sheit. I just traded my M1 13" 1tb W/C for a M4 13" 1tb W/C. The screen is amazing and worth the update alone. They also gave me $510 trade-in, 0% financing, and #5 back for using their card. That's a decent deal for 3-5years of use.

[@andyH_England]

Yes, one top creator spins this story about iPads are useless without macOS, and like lemmings, the rest follow. The iPad has always been a BIG iPhone, that is its raison d’etre. It is for users that do not like the experience of doing everything on a six-inch phone (as it sucks). The fact it can do more and has an age-defying chip are bonuses. But many of us buy the Pro as it is the feature-packed iPad and if we are keeping for 5+ years then those luxury specs make it all the better. It is so annoying that nearly every review we see the nonsense about M4 chip means it should run macOS! I honestly find YT creators reviews less and less relevant.

[@JasonClardy]

Just FYI, the iPad Pro has had a lidar scanner since before the iPhone, the 2020 model with A12Z was where it was introduced. It is in-between the flash and the microphone on your old iPad that you had in the shot while describing it.

[@thomasmolina9935]

It’s noticeably lighter and more comfortable to hold. I have an M1 iPad Pro and I will definitely be upgrading to the M4.

[@ronferry3069]

Not even tempted to get the M4 iPad Pro at this point. I have the 12.9 M1 version and got it to do animation type work. I end up just using my MacBook and the IPad has become a KZbin and Netflix machine with a few games here and there. I tried having it be a laptop replacement but that went bad. Just never feels right and its the OS just not built to do these things. Honestly might just sell it and my MacBook and upgrade the MacBook to a 16” vs 14”.

[@pfh777]

We keep asking if an iPad can replace a laptop. Apple has no interest in truly consolidating the devices - Apple is quite happy that we buy both.

[@joelmcknight9995]

I personally agree you don’t need both. I have a desktop for home, and the iPad for when I’m out at school or a friends house or something. It being like a single pound and thin makes it crazy portable

[@avijacobi7853]

Hey Kyle, where did you got those amazing wallpapers to your iPad Pro? I wanna have one.❤

[@abdurrahmankhan129]

I just ordered the 13” iPad Pro today with 1 tb and cellular from AT&T. After thinking about it I went and got it. Should be here sometime Friday. Didn’t need to upgrade from the 12.9” M1 but I did anyway. Hope it’s worth it.

[@abdurrahmankhan129]

Came today at the work. That and the Apple Magic Keyboard. Have to wait till about 6pm EST to go home and unbox them and set them up. All this trouble better be worth it.

[@LeicaM11]

Loving my Ipad pro M4. The only thing that sucks is the veeery slow speed of Lumafusion, because exporting stabilized videos is still extremely slow and nearly not usable. Only a single power core seem to be used with Lumafusion still😮

[@brittca]

As a Canadian hockey fan, I must say your editing of NHL headlines and clips had me laughing, very well done… so subtle yet … lol perfectly done.

[@ettepet9308]

There is a huge flaw with the M4 Ipad Pro in combination with this keyboard. Apple went all-out with making it thin and light. Beyond caring for you as a customer. The keyboard is metal and keys, with ZERO room between all this metal and the display. Easy to check at the store. ANY grain of sand or other hard material getting in between will instantly scratch the screen (and metal). Watching your video it appears to explain the "strange" scratches you discovered, The Keyboard is flawed. The reason: "Let's make it thinner (and lighter) than the competition!” (=Samsung's S9 Ultra) So I would get it insured by Apple and make them pay for fixing their own mistakes.😂

[@alblacquier4465]

I bought a new 2024 iPad 11 inch m4 and like you I use it every day. I got rid of my Asus Zenbook duo after I compleated school and love it.

[@RameshKumar-ng3nf]

Bro, EXCELLENT review as always 👌 My personal thoughts, I will always prefer a Macbook pro for pro works rather than a ipad due to ipad OS limitations for pro apps. I still use my older 2020 ipad pro and it serves all my needs.

[@daveh6356]

If you see consumption as a key use case then I'd suggest you're not the target customer for the iPad Pro. For those who used to use pencils/tablets (Wacom) with their PCs, the iPad Pro is a an absolute gem. Creatives of many kinds: 2D (& soon 3D with Z-Brush) designers, digital artists, photographers, musicians (sheet & DAW) and live performers have taken to it so much that even though sales numbers have dropped, the average unit sale price has increased so iPad Pros & Airs represent the majority of sales. Videographers wedded to Mac/PC workflows & filesystems will likely never 'get' iPad Pros.

[@jorviceclaunch3539]

ALWAYS!!! Buy a screen protector before you handle the iPad. Never had a problem since. You can either get a skin or a case for your Ipad.

[@abertolucci9780]

Returned mine after a day. The inferior speakers were a deal-breaker.

[@USArmyVet91]

Excellent review. I bought the 11 inch base model for gaming, and streaming media content. Two things you made sure to point out are amazing on this generation. 👍👍👍

[@JKStone234]

Do all tech KZbinrs just recycle the same 3-5 titles? Getting tired of things being “NOT what they seem!” Lol

[@thejasontlewis]

Yes, we’re contractually obligated to used the same 5 title structures. Get used to it.

[@thinkpadx60]

I don't know why people are so in awe of an iPad Pro. Every pro model offers the same user experience and it's never going to be a laptop replacement. It's a tablet to view content for 99% of the population and for this group they don't need the latest model.

[@housepianist]

For a lot of people, it is a laptop replacement. It doesn’t matter how you use it. And history has shown that many people buy loaded iPads simply because they want one. And again, it doesn’t matter how you use it. Just because it’s classified as a tablet doesn’t mean it can’t replace an actual laptop. Unfortunately, in our tech culture, specific use cases seem to dictate what a laptop/non-laptop is, which is not accurate. And since I’m going down that road, it also doesn’t determine what a computer is either because everything is a computer. All this makes me wonder how many people buy loaded MacBooks just to check email and watch Netflix. 😂

[@mattpipes5106]

In terms of creating graphics files that scale up beautifully and can be exported in different file formats and/or converted to vector images… The iPad can’t be beat. If you draw or if you have a printmaking background you will be blown away by what you can do with the iPad and some of the apps like Procreate or Affinity design suite. Having said that, when it’s time to output to the printer, I find I need to switch to the Mac for layout and printing.

[@ThemBirds]

Did anyone else notice the screen bending in on itself when Kyle was using the Apple Pencil on the iPad at 10:50 😱 BTW, great video and keep doing tech reviews like these!

[@TheFutureLooksGrimm]

Yes I noticed it bending a lot on another m4 video when showing close up drawing

[@voolian]

I have the 11” model and an M2 MacBook Air…. While my laptop will be my go to for working this iPad completely revolutionized my media consumption experience…. Taking it on an off the keyboard while still feeling super light in hand….And still also being able to do all the tasks I do for work on the go. I‘ll be traveling next week and I’ll be able to keep up with all my work tasks and edit my photos from the trip on one small device with no sacrifice of experience other than space on the keyboard???

[@MarismanJ1]

If the iPad had a MacOS based system instead of the iOS-Based one we have right now, personaly I would not wait a second in investing in this iPad. Good hardware, limiting -VERY limiting- software.

[@ricarmig]

The same with me. I won’t even think about spending so much money and not being able to use it as a laptop/desktop. Even my Samsung tab S8 with Android and DeX is more of a laptop replacement than the much much more powerful and expensive iPad. Android ‘s file system is much more desktop like as the window management. On iOS / iPadOS I feel I’m blocked behind a firewall and have very little freedom. If the iPad Air had a 120 Hz screen they would barely sell the Pros…

[@gallodelfierro7722]

We use some ipads at work for patients check in process, a few employees use company issued ipads for some light work, we are not restricted to OS specific software so ipads can be useful. We dont have any intentions of replacing laptops but ipads are useful for part of our productivity. I decided to get the new pro for hybrid work use (my first time using a pro) so far loving it. I still use my laptop (linux) the ipad is an extension of my primary workstation in my use case works great

[@B.D.F.]

The scratch on the screen is likely from when you stacked the iPads, the camera lens from one scratched the screen of the other. I had something similar happen a few years ago when I put 2 iPads in 1 bag. I don’t really get it when people say the software “doesn’t take full advantage” of the hardware, as if regular usage disables parts of the M4 or something. Is that what it means? Or is it more along the lines that people aren’t “taking full advantage” of their car unless the suspension is at its weight limit and the engine is constantly red-lining? What does it mean to “take full advantage” of a computer? How do I do it on my smartwatch?

[@beniaminradomir9798]

It means that people are saying "The M1 chip is really all we need. Please apple stop boosting the hardware, no one is asking for that and instead focus on better software." The more time passes and apple keeps upping the hardware of the Ipad (imagine one day having the M10 in the ipad) while still not significantly upgrading ipadOS more and more people are going to ask "How is this any different from my M1 ipad?" It's hard to get excited about opening the YT-app 0.001 seconds faster.

[@ettepet9308]

No the keyboard is flawed. It is metal and leaves ZERO room between it and the display. Meaning: scratch heaven/hell.

[@Dam0nSingh]

"Not taking full advantage of the hardware" e.g. : iPad supports external monitor. But artificially nerfed by iPad Os to not be able to change orientation to portrait. If it did I would be able to use portrait references better on this second portable screen. But Nop. Another one: Try doing file management. It takes unnecessary taps to do something that could be done with 1 shortcut. But Nop. Gotta grind your way thru taps and swipes and taps and menus to move a bunch of files. Neither of these things are deal breakers. But that's exactly the point. IPad Os makes you feel (artificially) limited no matter if the hardware is miles ahead.

[@specialsomeones]

Editing and creating documents on the iPad is much better than on the Mac. Between pen functionality and being able to touch the screen to move text boxes and photos around, it’s just a much smoother and faster experience. Since 90% of my job is creating and editing documents, the iPad has completely replaced my MacBook. The only thing I will miss is keyboard and mouse support for GeForce now for the times when I occasionally game.

[@aneshaf.6706]

Thanks for this perspective. Which app are you using?

[@specialsomeones]

@@aneshaf.6706 Pages for basic word processing, Noteful for pdf markup, affinity publisher 2 for FANCY documents, and occasionally Canva

[@specialsomeones]

@@aneshaf.6706 I tried to reply before but KZbin took down my comment? Let’s try again… I use Pages for basic word processing and Noteful for PDF annotation. Sometimes I use Affinity Publisher 2 for fancy documents and also occasionally Canva.

[@specialsomeones]

@@aneshaf.6706 pages for word processing, Noteful for pdf annotation

[@specialsomeones]

@@aneshaf.6706 Apple’s p.a.g.e.s for word processing and noteful for pdf markup

[@xeon3081]

The fact that even with this new cutting edge hardware there’s nothing actually new that you can do, only makes my “old” M1 iPad Pro age better and better. Thanks Apple for not giving me a reason to upgrade. I’ll spend my money elsewhere.

[@geoffscott8928]

How is davinci not feature rich editing software?

[@Gothy_Senpai]

Its just brighter and faster than the last gen. Nothing too exciting

[@adityalindson]

As a designer, I initially purchased the M4 iPad Pro, but I ended up returning it. It just didn’t fit into my workflow the way I hoped. I find the Mac far more suited to my needs. The iPad really needs more desktop-class apps to be a viable tool for professionals. For now, I can't justify spending a thousand dollars on a device that's mostly limited to checking emails and browsing the web, especially when my Mac handles those tasks, and so much more, with greater efficiency.

[@Zero]

Every review is so similar wish people would get more creative on their reviews we all know the specs by now and would rather see how cool it is and what you use it for

[@leafqi]

I bought 13inch, its not complete laptop replacement but it can do most computer basic jobs with better interface.

[@doctordoom1212]

I love my pro! I just upgraded from the M1! I bike to work and it's so much lighter than the previous generation. I also love the new magic keyboard.

[@Wiseguy1138]

I would never own an iPad without a tempered glass screen protector. Those prevent the scratches. I also lightly blow on the tip of the Apple Pencil before using it just for this very reason. It's really easy to do little tasks like that to make sure you don't scratch your super expensive screen. And a good screen protector won't impact the screen quality in any way....and is still a lot cheaper to replace if something does happen.

[@zaptorzim]

thx for the reminder! I'll get one of those soon, using the ipad sparingly until then

[@thomasmolina9935]

It’s impractical to move my entire workflow to one device. So, it’s nice to have two devices with slightly different capabilities. Three if you count the phone; the three work extremely well together.

[@illmetbymoonlight3318]

I have a 2017 MacBook Pro , and tbh I dont intend on replacing my Mac for the iPad , but using them together especially with apples software you can use the iPad as a dual screen wich is very neat , and the iPad itself can play games really well for spare time after breaks from school

[@aalex7gp]

I just saw in the back a bunch of Tokien, Pullman, Rowling and sci-fi books! So cool 🤜🤛

[@taysicc]

I started using it as my computer! It doesn’t fully replace it for music creation but everything else seems okay!

[@pmasequeira]

I'm considering the iPad Pro M4 for one simple reason: I'm a site engineer and I'd like a device with a screen that I can see outside. My current device is the iPad Air 3 (2019), but it's now starting to feel old for what I do.

[@ramashishnaman]

Does you iPad also show grains when in dark mode and in dark environment with low brightness….. I m asking cause I m suffering from this issue since I bought it…

[@brian3422]

I always throw on a glass screen protector the second it comes out of the box

[@NO-TALK-GuitarPlugin]

Had iPad Pro for years, pretty all the generations, but finally dropped it. It needs a macOS bot option. iPadOS is way too limited and a lot of developers won’t bring their plugins or software as iPadOS apps… the war is over

[@RT-yh8pi]

An Oilers fan?! Awesome. Hello from Edmonton!

[@SeanFennerJr]

MacBook is still just the better option for most workloads. I will say the iPad is a great complimentary device to my workflow. But more times than not I find myself going to MacBook to get projects done. I find the iPad for me to end up being a content consumption device rather than content production device. Great review and looking forward to WWDC !

[@arvs7356]

Not nitpicking, but just wanted to call out since you mentioned that the “3nm M4 chip resulted to smaller components inside” which isn’t 100% accurate. Yes, the 3nm process allows the M4 to pack more processing power in a denser area of transistors, but Apple normally increases the number of transistors for every chip iteration which results to a much faster processor clock speed. For instance, the die size of A14 (5nm) is actually bigger than A12 (7nm). For the iPad Pro M4, the main contributor for the shrink in height is the Tandem OLED panel and the new front camera sensor.

[@Whoareyoucalling]

The grainy display is a deal breaker, no way around it. Have yet to see a non grainy OLED iPad and I have visited over a dozen Apple stores. Curious to what Samsung is doing differently as they a have a similar problem ( less noticeable due to non stacked panels ). No iPhone model currently suffers from this issue so it’s exclusively isolated to Samsungs latest batch of OLED panels.

[@thecassels9568]

First off, nice to see the Oilers in your video! I really like your screensavers you show on some of your videos. Where could one find those??

[@elisabethlafontaine8979]

Are you saying “wait for a short time” before purchasing this iPad? Patience isn’t my strong suit but I can wait a little while! Thanks!

[@xi5lv]

I’m getting this iPad regardless bc it’s time to change my old 2018 iPad Pro. And when I get it I won’t change it again until it’s no longer useful.

[@jesperweiland]

What’s the thing with that Lidar scanner? My iPad Pro M1 already had one 🤔

[@sloppynyuszi]

It’s pretty cool. The AR feature is pretty cool when measuring stuff, especially rooms. When we bought our apartment I used the Ikea app to decorate the apartments we looked at just to gage vaguely how much furniture the place can handle. You can also scan objects and import them to nomad sculpt and continue sculpting and refining the object. It’s niche use case, but nice.

[@matthewgaines10]

But how many people complained about tablet thickness or screen brightness? I do hear complaining about scratch resistance, cost, multi-tasking, and iOS limitations and it seems like they have done little to adress those concerns. The vast majority of users don't need this iPad Pro M4.

[@arghyakusumbhattacharya9255]

@KyleErickson I have a question. If the iPad OLED displays need 2 layers (Tandem OLED) to reach 1000 nits for the entire screen, how does the iPhone OLED displays, or some other smartphone displays for that matter manage to reach even more than 1000 nits with just a single layer, regular OLED panel? Some brands like Xiaomi even have smartphones, that reach more than 2000 nits of HDR brightness. Is this only because of the reason that the iPad displays are massive compared to a smartphone display? Or are there any other factors at play?

[@beanmasterz]

It's because the iPad screens are much larger, so they need to either run down the life and battery by running the pixels at fullest blast or put two screens

[@vernearase3044]

I have a plain glass display and use a Paperlike screen protector. I don't user _any_ of my devices until they're protected with a screen protector.

[@steventeoh260]

10 days = 2 weeks, got it! Good review

[@MICHAELBURKE-u1d]

I have invested in the 2024 M4 13” 1 tig iPad Pro, amazing device much better than my 2022 12.9, iPad Pro

[@jimtipton8888]

Great device for a sales rep. Overpowered for what I use it for, but I love the display and MKB. Glad they moved the FT camera position. I'll use it for Zoom calls now. I still leave photo and video editing to the MBP. Appreciate your content Kyle!

[@pantelistsiolas580]

The main use case of the iPad is content consumption and occasionally light “productivity work”. If you plan to use it as a productivity tool it totally baffles me as to why somebody would go for it especially since price-wise is at MacBook levels. I did not get why the the Face ID had to move also . Makes it so frustrating when using it in portrait mode which is what I do

[@claudiameier666]

im happy with my ipad 11 inch m2 but that m4 screen,ohmy!

[@RedLeo-pf9yo]

In your thumb now, it looked like the keyboard was green. I was like man that is awesome. So I click on the video just to realize that the keyboard is still boring black.

[@KyleErickson]

deep thoughts by jack handey

[@rudyelizondo1935]

Yeah unless the new software wows me, my iPad Air m1 is perfect for me now. No extra expense and I can get a keyboard cheaper too.

[@JayKeating-kj1jp]

I upgraded from the mini 6 to the 11” m4, still trying to get use to the size difference but the oled is beautiful and 120htz is so nice!

[@Bippy55]

Great review! I’d be curious too about the small scratches in the corner. So I’m hoping a 3rd party screen protector will be available very soon. Also… I try to wait as long as possible to purchase Apple hardware, because they are a bit expensive. And I don’t want my M4 purchase to be outdated by an M5 or M6 chip in 2027. Thank you for a great video.

[@khoifoto]

I’ve never had any scratches from using the pencil on the screen. I had a habit of wiping the screen clean before I use the pencil to draw. I don’t take notes because typing is way faster than hand writing. Screen protector just ruin the clarity of the screen and ad extra weight. The new speakers are worse than the M2 Pro. 5:18

[@JR-jc7oj]

No they arent

[@cia290]

My first iPad and I got the 11” I think it’s the right size. For reading or really about anything. Screen is amazing I find that I’m not using my phone as much and MacBook hasn’t been used at all. The now Magic Keyboard is amazing as well. This is going to be a great little laptop if apple puts out the right iOS in September we will know more in June if they are taking iPad to a whole new place!

[@CrippyMcNolegs]

Using the native Note app on my iPad Pro m4 sucks the battery life out of my device if using for 10-15 continuously and makes it heat up quite a bit. Unacceptable. Notability doesn’t do that when using. Notability just doesn’t have the new pencil pro features yet.

[@bryans8656]

Thanks for another informative, balanced review Kyle. Bummer about that scratch, that would bother me too. In my usual fashion I took advantage of the new releases and purchased the last gen iPad Air when the price dropped.

[@KyleErickson]

That's a great device!

[@stephenmiller4960]

I enjoyed the comment, “Algorithmic Devil Magic.” Nice touch.

[@MrMystri]

Couldnt decide which to get so purchased both and spent a week toying and comparing the two sizes and screen quality etc. Although i love the 11" for its compactness, its the 13" that won the crown for its screen estate and it's other qualities therefore returned the 11". If i want a smaller screen ill use my iphone 15 Pro Max.

[@Caeleth]

Thanks Kyle for your extensive explanation on a number of features on the iPad Pro M4 😊 I agree with you, that the M4 (which I don’t have just yet) needs more to show off what it really can do with all that power. Right now, I still use an iPad Pro 11” M1 and put it to good use, along with Astropad Studio for designing. Yes, the  Pencil Pro is better than the one I use (2nd generation), but apparently only works with the M4 models, which must be a bummer for people having forked out on the M2 and a second generation Apple Pencil :/ But to be honest, I know I will -somewhere in the not too distant future- upgrade to the M4 sooner or later. (And yes, an  Pencil pro probably as well) ;)

[@JCourts2k23]

I'm very happy with it my only complaints is the speakers could use a little more base, but they are better than the previous iPad Pro, and they should have changed the orientation of the Apple logo on the back and the iPad Pro writing under it

[@fotografkennethlund]

Hi Kyle - thanks for taking time to make this video - great thoughts, much appreciated! I have a question, but maybe that's for a whole other video => I'm thinking about getting an iPad and one of the use-cases is being able to import and check photos on full- and/or multi day shoots instead of having to bring my MacBook Pro. I know, first world problem! If I use Lightroom CC for this, I would also have a backup of the images not be solely reliant of the CF cards not playing games with me (or getting lost) and I would be able to send the client som previews during the shoot or just let them browse the images as well on the iPad. Let's say I do a fair bit of editing and culling on the iPad - this could, of course, save me some time when I get back home. My question, then, is how the workflow from that point and forward could be. I've had a look at it two years ago and got the impression, that a mix between LR CC and LR Classic quickly becomes a mess. Would I then be able to import the files from the iPad directly to my MacBook Pro from Lightroom CC on the iPad and potentially combine them with, say, the last pictures I shot and didn't have time to import on the iPad ?

[@tipoomaster]

Narrator: It was exactly what it seemed

[@KyleErickson]

also narrator: "let's talk about buttered sausage"

[@hamedizzy5137]

They have a few things up their sleeves they advertise it to be 10 core cpu but it’s actually 12core….so what more are they hiding? I guess we’ll find out in 2weeks

[@JordanStambaugh1]

As an artist / web designer I do not envy people who have no use case for the iPad and buy it just to try and justify it later 😬

[@zynan]

Excellent review. Great work!

[@kings7man]

Pity the Apple Pencil doesn’t come in colours to match the color of the device

[@mariodasilva8729]

I've heard of some disadvantages of upgrading from M1 to M4 iPads. First the old Apple pencil2 doesn't work. Second the Folio or Magic keyboard from the M1 doesn't fit the M4. Third there's no CLOSE OUT improvement in RE-connecting external storage although you can edit from or ON a Samsung T7. Also the Thunderbolt transfer speeds have not improved! What a big letdown for the upper price!

[@roderickmorales]

No matter how good the hardware is, it will always depend on how good the software is.

[@georgechan1680]

@Kyle, did you ever place your iPhone over the surface of the screen? The sapphire on the camera module could leave scratch on it.

[@KyleErickson]

not that I'm aware of, that's interesting though!

[@georgechan1680]

@@KyleErickson it actually happened on my second phone which I stack them while I was carrying. So, beware! 😉

[@FlosBlog]

6 Millimeter is a bit thick for a pane of glass. This is more of a safety Glass thickness. Usually they are around four

[@DavidBates-qt4yz]

It's an ipad. I think it should excel at being an iPad. It's not a Mac. I don't want it to be a Mac. I'll get a Mac if I want one. I'm not sure why people keep trying to make it a Mac. (replacing a MacBook with the ipad, etc.). All that said, I wish Apple would define what the ipad is focused on.

[@DrSlideit]

What do you think about a Pro Display XDR 2 OLED coming based off this Tandem OLED configuration? That would be sick!!!!

[@KyleErickson]

would be interesting!

[@doughope761]

Too bad about the scratches. But if you put a tempered glass screen protector on it, those scratches will disappear. If you get a quality glass such as Spigen, it will feel like the naked screen. At least, I don't feel any difference.

[@bradeneliuk5880]

Subbed immediately after seeing the SN Now logo. Loyal to the Oil. Oil in 6. Good video too😂

[@khelifimohamedzakaria776]

I never ever bought or owend an Apple device. The iPad pro m4 was my first and after 1 mounth I can say that I am happy with my purchase. Some weird shit like no WhatsApp but for my professional usage as an architect it's Great 👍 my advice if you buy the apple pencil immediately use a silicone sleeve on it, or it will scratch the iPad and itself due to the strong magnets. Or just use tape until you get the sleeve

[@badabing8884]

This iPad is for peeps where money is not a problem and can work around its limitations. It’s still an iPad.