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IPOH, Malaysia we DIDN'T EXPECT THIS!

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Wattstraveling

Wattstraveling

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Hello everyone, Today Jay and I take you to Ipoh, Malaysia and IT WAS AWESOME! We didn't really know what to expect before coming to Ipoh but heard it was a must do, so we packed up the car and hit the road! Buddhist temples in caves, Kelly's Castle and the Limestone cliffs were so beautiful. I hope you enjoy our video, and thanks for watching! Don't forget to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE before you go!!
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@tuppenceworth5485
@tuppenceworth5485 Жыл бұрын
Ipoh is the hometown of the actress, Michelle Yeoh, who rose to international fame in the James Bond movie, Tomorrow Never Dies, starring opposite Pierce Brosnan. Other well-known films she starred in include Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon and Crazy Rich Asians.
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
That's awesome 👍 thanks for watching ❤️
@marfauzamatjusoh8198
@marfauzamatjusoh8198 Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@subramaniam3858
@subramaniam3858 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget they make anna and the king movie in ipoh too😁
@wongweikit7571
@wongweikit7571 Жыл бұрын
And also Jackie Chan, Donnie Yen, and others superstars, & mostly acting movies with Jet Li. They both cooperate very well in many movies. And also in Malaysia, we call her 'Dato', titles given by Sultan Royalty bcos of contribution make Malaysia well know to other countries.
@magdalenaliew2351
@magdalenaliew2351 Жыл бұрын
I've left my home town Ipoh for 40 over years but I still make sure to visit this beautiful place whenever I can.
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
We loved it! 😍 it was so beautiful! Thank you so much for watching ❤️
@georgegordon2063
@georgegordon2063 Жыл бұрын
Loved it! So glad you have the drone shots - the view is breathtaking!
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Yes! The drone really helps put things into perspective.... with the size of the cliffs! If you enjoyed this one.... you'll love the next one 😉
@cikradi3512
@cikradi3512 Жыл бұрын
I really loves watching your videos of your journey in Malaysia. Frankly, many of the places that your went.. I still haven't got a chance to visit yet. so I have to say thank you for showing me those places. I know now you're in Singapore & I you have a chance to comeback to Malaysia, please visit Sabah & Sarawak in Borneo, East Malaysia...the nature & the multi ethnics live there are beautiful. There are also beautiful islands, beaches & I hope you could connect with the peoples of longhouse. Keep going, guys.
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Aww, thank you Ciki Radi! Borneo is on our list 100 %! Thank you for watching ❤️
@lachimanankumari6906
@lachimanankumari6906 Жыл бұрын
tqsm
@MJTUEN
@MJTUEN Жыл бұрын
Great shots and awesome presentation!
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your feedback, means alot! 😊 thanks for watching
@askarsepoi
@askarsepoi Жыл бұрын
As a part of Ipoh peoples since 1995, mostly im prefer enjoy and relax places.. from kellie castle go to pangkor island or beach around lumut
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
There are so many places to go! We can't wait to come back! Thank you so much for your recommendation and thanks for watching! ❤️
@zakk_zulkif44attang30
@zakk_zulkif44attang30 Жыл бұрын
Awesome keep em rollin folks..n always safety first
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Awe, thank you! Thanks so much for watching! ❤️
@azlirazli7500
@azlirazli7500 Жыл бұрын
You already in Ipoh, hopefully you can visit the nearby city, Kuala Kangsar. It's a royal town with beautiful royal Palace and mosque. Plus kuala kangsar has its own signature food: Laksa. Worth visiting place.
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
All the more reason to go back.... and I can't wait! Thank you for watching ❤️
@fittrege2778
@fittrege2778 Жыл бұрын
Laksa is fishy. I dont think the lady will like it.
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
@@fittrege2778 you would be correct 🤣🤣
@anikakari5795
@anikakari5795 Жыл бұрын
Greetings.... Welcome To Malaysia... Hope All Of You Have Fun While In Malaysia....
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Thanks Anika! Malaysia was amazing....I can't wait to come back soon! Thank you for watching ❤️
@artistsyeun7677
@artistsyeun7677 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE IPOH, BEAUTIFUL, PEACEFUL and AFFORDABLE ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
YES! BEAUTIFUL 😍 thank you for watching! ❤️
@judygrey5606
@judygrey5606 Жыл бұрын
Whoa would take me the day to do all the steps!
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Funny, there are actual health warning signs inside the cave and Jay and I didn't understand why.... until we started the climb! Whew
@fxn7279
@fxn7279 Жыл бұрын
New subscriber here… Ipoh looks beautiful coming from your lenses. Thank U.
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Hello 👋 FXN! thank you for subscribing! The views in Ipoh were AWESOME! thank you for watching, means a lot! ❤️
@johnragaistreetfood
@johnragaistreetfood Жыл бұрын
I went to Ipoh last July 2022. Many interesting places to visit. I will repeat my Ipoh trip again. Thank you for sharing your Ipoh trip, Watts.
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Thanks John! Yeah, we are looking forward to going back as well! Thank you so much for watching ❤️
@johnragaistreetfood
@johnragaistreetfood Жыл бұрын
@@wattstraveling Actually I took some video but my priority was photography back then. I just re-activate my old YT channel.
@aishi9068
@aishi9068 Жыл бұрын
As always beautiful shots
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Awe, thank you Aishi! 😊 if you liked this one our Cameron Highlands is so breathtaking 😍 thank you for watching..... and stay tuned! 😉
@georgegordon2063
@georgegordon2063 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why is says George Gordon - lol that comment was from me!! Betty
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Hi Betty!...... thank you for watching❤️
@blackpeas9999
@blackpeas9999 Жыл бұрын
8:06 that's my alma mater! St Michael's Institution Ipoh.
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
How AWESOME! 🤩 thank you so much for watching ❤️ means a lot!
@wongchonyew8726
@wongchonyew8726 Жыл бұрын
I love watching your video. Beautiful.
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Awe, thank you your feedback is much appreciated! 😊
@vallaazclassic6458
@vallaazclassic6458 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for coming to my city, Ipoh. 😊
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Awe, you are welcome! Those temples in the Caves are so beautiful 😍 thanks for watching ❤️ means a lot
@azmiabdul5860
@azmiabdul5860 Жыл бұрын
So beautiful...
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Thank you and thanks for watching ❤️
@smartauman2295
@smartauman2295 Жыл бұрын
That was the LIKED for the steps climbed.
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thank you! Whew, I didn't realize it was going to be so difficult of a climb! Thank you for watching, means a lot! ❤️
@keangwooichoo6138
@keangwooichoo6138 Жыл бұрын
Some hills are being mine for granites or limestones. Unfortunately. In vietnam ninh binh at least they are untouched. Ipoh is like ninh binh.
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Ohhh that makes me even more excited to explore Vietnam! 😊 ipoh was beautiful.... we honestly didn't expect everything we saw! thank you for watching! ❤️
@scorppio_zscorrp6930
@scorppio_zscorrp6930 Жыл бұрын
Welcome madam...my hometown Ipoh one of the best place in Malaysia 🙏💕☺
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Hello 👋 we loved Ipoh! 😍 thank you for watching, means a lot!
@humaimahmdharun2703
@humaimahmdharun2703 Жыл бұрын
I live here… tq for coming ❤
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
It was beautiful 😍 thank you for watching ❤️
@asyrafyap110
@asyrafyap110 Жыл бұрын
Welcome To Ipoh Perak 🤗
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Awe, thank you and thanks for watching. Ipoh was AWESOME
@asyrafyap110
@asyrafyap110 Жыл бұрын
@@wattstraveling tq 🤗🙏
@rikiarmstrong3493
@rikiarmstrong3493 Ай бұрын
We loved Ipoh ❤
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Ай бұрын
@rikiarmstrong3493 oh, we did too.... it actually surprised us...... just beautiful! And that cave/temple WOW!
@bjornchew9640
@bjornchew9640 Жыл бұрын
Next small town Gopeng offer outdoor activities, camping, water rafting, cave exploring
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Wow! All the more reason to come back to Malaysia! Thank you for watching and telling me about Gopeng. ❤️
@charlestan2021
@charlestan2021 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Gopeng is well known for the freshwater snake head fish cooked in rice wine..should try. Also a small town in Gopeng named Lawan Kuda meaning "horse fight " whose main road was once a british airforce runway...
@annlin4418
@annlin4418 Жыл бұрын
wow...i never try these stairs b4 ,,, even i live here in Ipoh
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
.... but the view SO WORTH IT! so beautiful 😍 thank you for watching ❤️
@faizulevanasyraf
@faizulevanasyraf Жыл бұрын
Welcome to my hometown Ipoh, Perak the Silver State of Malaysia!
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Awe, thank you! 😊
@wolger
@wolger Жыл бұрын
The hometown of Michelle Yeoh!
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
😊 thanks for watching ❤️
@jasminmohdzain
@jasminmohdzain Жыл бұрын
Who once was a Bond girl ! Not bad for an Ipoh gal ..
@ylocoslovakia
@ylocoslovakia Жыл бұрын
I saw cars parked at the top? 😁
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Very funny! 🤣🤣🤣 thanks so much for watching ❤️
@hoymunghin4292
@hoymunghin4292 Жыл бұрын
Cantonese food heaven.
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
👍 if like to try some other dishes too
@muthulingamramiah5546
@muthulingamramiah5546 Жыл бұрын
What? No... The Dim Sums and Fried Dumplings in Ipoh are the best... I guess you guys are just not used to that much Umami flavor all at once in a dish...but that's the whole idea, it is supposed to be very fishy but freshly made and very flavorful and it is one of the best comfort foods Asia has to offer... Most Asian dishes are definitely not subtle and It is very flavorful and wakes up your taste buds... That's how we like it...and that's why we go crazy over Durian... :) Anyway, love your videos and please visit our world famous Tropical Islands... they are amazing...
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
I know, right. I really wish I loved it....I like dim sum just not the fishy ones!.... but there was a lot! 🤣🤣 Thank you so much for watching! ❤️
@maverickchin
@maverickchin Жыл бұрын
U both must try white coffee in ipoh that is very famous.
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
One more reason to come back for a visit! 😉
@silvamaney8897
@silvamaney8897 Жыл бұрын
You should try Kledang hill hike,it has beautiful trails.
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
That sounds great! So much to do the next time we come back! Thank you for your recommendation 😊
@wongweikit7571
@wongweikit7571 Жыл бұрын
The place u both went to that Castle is considered Haunted especially at night. Mostly old buildings in Ipoh Perak areas are British Colonial.
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
I did see something about that when I was there.... but it didn't see any ghosts! Thanks for watching, means a lot! ❤️
@wongweikit7571
@wongweikit7571 Жыл бұрын
@@wattstraveling 😂😭🤣🙈🤦
@jonmath4182
@jonmath4182 Жыл бұрын
Oh boy, your persistence! 😂
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 I felt like it was never going to end..... my legs were shaking! But the view was awesome! Thank you for watching! ❤️
@franksinatra4490
@franksinatra4490 Жыл бұрын
Hello please go to mirror lake it's in Ipoh
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
All the more reason to go back! We are looking forward to it! Thank you for watching ❤️
@winall9
@winall9 Жыл бұрын
I have been there 2 months ago. Could not see the mirror in the lake
@bk1571
@bk1571 Жыл бұрын
Ipoh is not the 3rd largest City in Malaysia, largest is KL follow by JB, Georgetown.
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
And there you have it.....Google has fooled me AGAIN! 😭
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
awe, OK 👍
@zamriramli9261
@zamriramli9261 Жыл бұрын
welcome
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Thank you and Thanks for watching!
@keangwooichoo6138
@keangwooichoo6138 Жыл бұрын
The perak tong cave. And other cave temples.
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
I loved the view from the top, even tho it was a big hike! Thank you for watching ❤️
@keangwooichoo6138
@keangwooichoo6138 Жыл бұрын
@@wattstraveling if you hv a heart problem better not do it. I guess can draw a parallel to ninh binh's hang mua caves.
@joshuajoshua9891
@joshuajoshua9891 Жыл бұрын
I hope u will come to royal town Kuala kangsar
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
There are so many places we have yet to discover. One of the things I love most is how much Malaysian people love their country! It's just amazing. Thank you so much for your recommendation Joshua Joshua! 😊
@lonemartin8018
@lonemartin8018 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to ipoh
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Thank you, and thanks for watching!
@justwalkexplorers4958
@justwalkexplorers4958 Жыл бұрын
Should go to Tempurung Cave 👍
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Wow, that looks amazing! Thank you for the recommendation and thanks for watching! ❤️
@feerosli9215
@feerosli9215 Жыл бұрын
welcome to Ipoh my hometown 😍
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Wow, Ipoh was AWESOME! thank you for watching ❤️
@feerosli9215
@feerosli9215 Жыл бұрын
@@wattstraveling welcome ,have a beautiful day ! 💕
@ChoongYeow
@ChoongYeow Жыл бұрын
They charge fee for camera in Kelly's castle because its a famous local wedding photography destination, which is quite annoying for tourist sometimes. For dimsum, u guys went to the wrong place, its a tourist trap, should seek local advice for better dimsum gems in ipoh. General guide, see tourists packed = bad or overrated food.
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
We were given a location by a local...... couldn't be any more local we met him at at a car garage...lol.... but it was closed when we went there! 😕 Thank you for watching ❤️
@keangwooichoo6138
@keangwooichoo6138 Жыл бұрын
Take your time to climb.
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
We most definitely did, or I would have died for sure! I wasn't sure why there were health warning signs in the cave until we started climbing! Whew Thank you for watching ❤️
@esphilee
@esphilee Жыл бұрын
What will happen if you see an elevator upon arrival at the top?
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 I think I'd collapse! Could you imagine 😳 thanks for watching! ❤️
@ThomasThomas-be4sn
@ThomasThomas-be4sn Жыл бұрын
Pls don't put siily ideas into those silly local politicians.. they'll do it..build escalators fire the sake of money and DESTROY nature..& the environment. eg Cameron Highlands already destroyed by them..greedy fools.. the temperature is as hot as KL.. luckily Frazier's Hill is still relatively untouch and still beautiful & tranquil.
@cheryll8008
@cheryll8008 Жыл бұрын
My legs are trembling!! No thanks😂
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Oh, mine where too....I feel like I'm in pretty good shape..... wow was it tough! Thanks for watching! ❤️
@BBnakrak
@BBnakrak Жыл бұрын
I think the Kelly castle is one of the famous haunted place in malaysia
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Yes! I think you are right! 😁
@samlau1100
@samlau1100 Жыл бұрын
U missed the Gua Tempurung
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
All the more reason to come back! 😊 thanks for watching Sam Lau! ❤️
@metrohealth8672
@metrohealth8672 Жыл бұрын
The Perak Tong cave collapsed in 2009, killing 1 person and trapping a few people! The top was only opened after many years closed after the cave collapse! RM 50 for camera fees due to it being used as a pre-wedding photoshoot and also for drama movie advertisement purposes! Fees for biz purposes!
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Wow, i didn't know it collapsed that's crazy! 😳. Thanks for watching ❤️
@yaserkhalid5645
@yaserkhalid5645 Жыл бұрын
It's the 4th largest city actually
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Goggle lied to me again! 🤣🤣
@yyyeo7276
@yyyeo7276 Жыл бұрын
I'm crying people still feed the pigeons😂😂afraid the pigeons get hungry lol
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Lol..... ya, I was laughing too!
@encikbakri6135
@encikbakri6135 Жыл бұрын
😱😱😱😱 that castle have ghost 😁😁😁 william kellie smith ghost hehhehe
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Is it?
@encikbakri6135
@encikbakri6135 Жыл бұрын
yes...local people always say..they see william kellies smith ghost there. the story very famous .
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
@@encikbakri6135 yes, I did read something about that. I think they advertised ghost walls as well! 😳
@canopyfields
@canopyfields Жыл бұрын
Ipoh is known as the town with the most beautiful young girls. Those that are like 8.5/10 above
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Interesting 👍
@winall9
@winall9 Жыл бұрын
Ha ha, probably a myth. There are beautiful girls in all states
@McY13ee
@McY13ee Жыл бұрын
💚💚💚💚💚
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching ❤️
@bashed1000
@bashed1000 Жыл бұрын
Maybe u want to travel a bit to the north to Alor Setar, one of the oldest city in Malaysia.
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Wow, maybe one day! 😁 thanks for watching ❤️
@keangwooichoo6138
@keangwooichoo6138 Жыл бұрын
Dim sum is mostly prawn and chicken
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Yes, which I really didn't know.... our waitress said there's usually some prawn in all the dishes.... even when it just says pork or chicken..... now I know! 😊 thank you for watching! ❤️
@keangwooichoo6138
@keangwooichoo6138 Жыл бұрын
@@wattstraveling yes some are pork too. But stuff like loh mai Kai or glutinous rice is with chicken. Pau can be chicken or pork. Usually prawn is use in dim sum.
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
@@keangwooichoo6138 wow, you sound like a chef!
@keangwooichoo6138
@keangwooichoo6138 Жыл бұрын
@@wattstraveling no. I am Cantonese. Dim sum is Cantonese dish. It literally means "touch my heart". Too bad both of you do not like prawn or seafood.
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
@@keangwooichoo6138 I know...I really wish I like it. Jay likes it tho! ❤️ touch my heart, I love that! ❤️
@rashidrani2333
@rashidrani2333 Жыл бұрын
Don't dream its over...
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
I'm trying not to.....😪
@azharidris7092
@azharidris7092 Жыл бұрын
i thought you're in singapore.. oh nooooo... i've lost another bet with my friend..
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
We ARE in Singapore 🇸🇬...... right now.... I'm trying to catch up on editing videos......
@azharidris7092
@azharidris7092 Жыл бұрын
@@wattstraveling enjoy singapore.. a wee bit expensive.. but i know you are looking after someone house again.. count yourself lucky.. too many young vloggers ended up in a capsule hotel.. i think there's too much to do in Singapore.. but i know you will end up in little India.. its beautiful there during Diwali.. i know you will be doing a video on that subject.. looking forward to it..
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
@@azharidris7092 honestly..... we're you in my backpack tonight? Because WE DID go to little India!.... FOR Diwali!🤣🤣 there was SO MANY PEOPLE!
@GajahMengaumTheBruce
@GajahMengaumTheBruce Жыл бұрын
Dont feed the birds lol.
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 they were almost standing under the sign! Heehee..
@GajahMengaumTheBruce
@GajahMengaumTheBruce Жыл бұрын
@@wattstraveling Lol.
@jonmath4182
@jonmath4182 Жыл бұрын
Can't resist. Them birds wayyyy too cute to be doing the hard work of foraging for food themselves. Here, birdie, birdie!
@ThomasThomas-be4sn
@ThomasThomas-be4sn Жыл бұрын
Though this video actually contains nice comments abt Ipoh BUT the caption Ipoh nearly kills us is not very nice or polite.. It's misleading for other tourists..
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Hello there, thank you for your opinion, but I don't think it's neither impolite or misleading, considering (if you've been there) there are health warnings stated on a big sign inside the cave..... and the climb was extremely difficult..... so it really isn't for everyone. We are lucky enough to climb to the top, but lots will not.
@ThomasThomas-be4sn
@ThomasThomas-be4sn Жыл бұрын
@@wattstraveling I'm a Malaysian.. we need to encourage more eco tourism here.. especially after the COVID-19 pandemic & the worsening Rm foreign exchange. We don't need intimidating cum discouraging vague info. Btw try Gua Tempurung.(gua means cave in bahasa melayu, national language.) It's an underground cave.. lots of tourists..both local & foreign.. This one for most pple as it's easier but you'll get wet Health signs warning?😁 Maybe it's a Health Ministry requirement now after the virus scare. Tq.. no hard feelings.. pls enjoy your stay here. Mulu caves in Sarawak..biggest rain forest cave in the world, Sipadan Dive resort, Lake Kenyir,Trengganu..,Pulau Perhentian .etc
@danishliew8067
@danishliew8067 Жыл бұрын
Ipoh people is very rude, always like to backstabbing others, ask them why trying to not answer and swearing parents , don’t go ipoh and helping those Chinese racism king people
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
Sorry you feel this way about Ipoh, but we thought it was so pretty! Thank you for watching ❤️
@vaigishraj1114
@vaigishraj1114 Жыл бұрын
im from ipoh but everywhere there is raacism not only ipoh
@nixonyap939
@nixonyap939 Жыл бұрын
Hi I terrible sorry as the video you posted for Ipoh cannot view from my phone only sound. Is that normal. Thanks
@wattstraveling
@wattstraveling Жыл бұрын
No, I don't think that's normal?
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