IPS vs VA side by side comparison: LG 27GL850 vs Viewsonic VX3268-2KPC

[@Hyperlands]

me, watching on a cheap TN video so can see neither the truer colours nor the deeper blacks

[@shamaafrin4031]

Haha same 😂😂

[@GauravNicholasMisraNickKwan]

Trolololol

[@ChrisBlackTV]

After reading your comment I moved the window from my 144hz TN panel to the IPS one, and yeah, I immediately noticed a difference 😆

[@shamaafrin4031]

@@ChrisBlackTV 😌i too have both , colours look good in ips when watching stuff.but in gaming i don't see much diff except red colour and green colour look different.

[@RealLagu]

Watching on a IPS panel with terrible light bleeding and terrible blacks. This monitor is from 2015 and it used to cost 800€

[@DaemonPix]

My mouth dropped when I saw the black on white text comparison. Thanks for making this in depth video. Nice work.

[@maxdamagusbroski]

Some more modern VA panels don't have this issue. Samsung Oddyssey G7 and higher VA panels for example.

[@user-artem.tkachenko]

I am shocked that other "tech reviewers" does not even mention this VA panel issue.

[@TVCHLORD]

@@user-artem.tkachenko paid reviews

[@zq7807]

This is by far the best IPS vs VA comparison I watched! Very logical testing, and the black background white text coding just took it to another level.

[@timmyp6297]

The thing about that is, its not doing it on my VA... at all. I can test right here in these comments.

[@NAM_BRO]

@@timmyp6297 What monitor do you have? I'm looking for a good monitor but I wouldnt like to regret if I get a VA

[@timmyp6297]

@@NAM_BRO ASUS VG32VQ1B

[@kriswayne7938]

What's best for designing like ux and ui?

[@RicardoLeal1995]

I also have a VA monitor and it doesn't have this black background white text problem. It is probably a problem with some cheap VA panels

[@Farukhan123]

Dude, really... as some have already said: Hands down the best comparison between IPS and VA panel on the internet. Great stuff, mate. :D

[@TSOLYRICS]

True asf

[@s_k_47]

Bro, You nailed it. This is super cool comparison with every detail .

[@seifeldinmohamed652]

after 9hr of reviews, this is the best one.

[@omarzarzourzamora984]

I agree lol. I was thinking like who spends 9hrs watching monitor's reviews. I just realized I've done 12hrs straight so far.

[@seifeldinmohamed652]

@@omarzarzourzamora984 lol 😂😂😂😂 .. I had spent about 2-3 months in laptops reviews daily to choose one

[@kriswayne7938]

What's best for designing like ux and ui

[@anjayl]

He compared a decent IPS with a bad VA and that is the best review you've seen ? ...

[@dabneyoffermein595]

@@anjayl what do you mean by bad VA? it's not a cheapo monitor, correct? it's made by Dell and is suitable for gaming ? or no? Gaming meaning Flight Simulator 2020 from Microsoft

[@siddheshrane]

5:20 Thanks for this side by side comparison of dark background and white text. I am programmer. I was looking for VA for better black colors but this showed there are other issues.

[@mart43]

wich one did you chose?

[@maddymuhat8079]

So ips is better?

[@OYeahan]

I think for people that like coding in the evenings etc. or in general prefer the dark editor color theme, it might be even worse on a VA - as I understand, smaller gray-to-gray transitions are even slower and that's precisely what happens in that case - dark editor themes do not use white text on black background, but a combination of colors with lower contrast so that they are more natural for human eyes not evolved for high contrasts in dark environments and don't cause retinal "burn-in" issues.

[@ntz752]

@@maddymuhat8079 No,ips is has awful contrast and black levels.

[@tazboy1934]

@@ntz752 yeah u are right

[@funnyah7801]

I own a philips 144hz va panel monitor, and out of the box, the black smearing issue was really bothering but managed to reduce it significantly by adjusting the "SmartResponse" setting to fast.

[@kishorekurapati9172]

Very good comparison. Two things to notice. 1. If we are using dark mode for coding I would prefer IPS. 2. In most of the comparison videos(other brand VA display) VA panels are little warmer than IPS. But Viewsonic managed that.

[@Tbone272]

I swear by ViewSonic. I love their products.

[@FallenLight0]

This white leak on the left down corner on IPS panel 06:10, is this normal? Every IPS pannel has it? Or this is a problem with this monitor?

[@PurpleGuyUSA]

@@FallenLight0 every ips panel it's called black glow or something, usually it's barely visible in the 4 corners but it depends on viewing angle

[@FallenLight0]

@@PurpleGuyUSA I see, thanks

[@railfans-psi]

@@FallenLight0 My 2nd LG 22MN430M not like that, but in my 1st Philips 242V8A has a white leaked, me called Bleeding, and still want take to Service Center for replace it :(

[@sughanthanMG]

Video of this kind of categories are not covered by most of youtubers, and most video i found are 3 to 4 years old. Thank you so much for this video. and Keep going with the flow....🔥❤

[@KAD7Gaming]

Very good video, the demonstration at 5:18 really put black smearing into perspective and convinced me to go with an IPS monitor instead.

[@JasonSmith-pn6ch]

Smart choice, ignore the guy who probably doesn't own a VA panel monitor. I own a VA panel and will never ever waste my $ on another VA panel ever.

[@wallacesousuke1433]

@@JasonSmith-pn6ch you have to choose the best monitors with VA tech, Samsung Odyssey 7 shits on most IPS/TN panels (only possible downside is the 1000R curve of the screen, might be a bit too much for most people)

[@fuiwfnbnufjehnfojui4251]

@@wallacesousuke1433 Shouldn't the major downside be that it is over $800?

[@wallacesousuke1433]

@@fuiwfnbnufjehnfojui4251 nope? It's worthy every penny, 240Hz, great contrast, 1440p, fast response, etc etc.

[@fuiwfnbnufjehnfojui4251]

@@wallacesousuke1433 while i’m sure it’s a great product, just because something is “worth every penny” doesn’t mean it’s not a downside when compared to cheaper monitors.

[@rumourplays]

Me watching this video on a *TN* Panel: 🌝

[@drgate628]

Watch from ur phone might help

[@okabekurisu8120]

yup

[@ubozkurt]

İ watch xiomi note X4 (16gb) 😡

[@rumourplays]

Honestly guys I feel for you. I am watching this on ips 144hz moniter. 😀

[@okabekurisu8120]

@@rumourplays niceee dude. I got my 144hz 1440 asus tuf ips on the way 😁😁😁

[@shnake_case]

Thank you so much for this! I was contemplating buying a VA monitor, but after seeing that black smearing on the white text on dark background, it is a no-go for me

[@justdev8965]

Do you think all brands are like veiwsonic though? Are you sure you would get that on a HP, Samsung or LG VA monitor? I highly doubt that. That's just poor quality control within one company. It doesn't represent VA technology overall.

[@vitorf2303]

@@justdev8965You will get the same shit

[@MoonRegolith]

Solid comparison and I'm glad it just came up in YT recommendations. The part on text during screen shake was a practical example that helped me decide.

[@nikoskontraros9161]

This review was an eye-opener! Having almost all programs in dark mode with white text would be a nightmare in VA, especially coding.

[@carlsonmcphallus7366]

Eh, smearing while coding in a dark mode (Well, in my experience a dark grey background) isn't the worst on a VA. It's not bad enough that I can't scroll through my code quickly to identify the blocks I'm looking for, and most of the time the image is static. I have a PLS, IPS and VA in my monitor setup and my main coding window usually lives on my VA because the smearing doesn't effect it's functionality. I don't like to game on my VA, though.

[@sigmacrow6783]

@@carlsonmcphallus7366 which would you recommend for content consumption and light gaming? and does the color ratio of IPS bother you?

[@carlsonmcphallus7366]

@@sigmacrow6783 You mean the contrast ratio? Yes, it does bother me. The black smearing of the VA is the real kicker though. I got used it, I don't let it bother me. But, if you're the kind of person who lets those details bother you, it can be hard to overlook. For me, now, I use my VA for most tasks. Video, work, gaming. I got used to the smearing in gaming, doesn't bother me now. Just make sure you check out detailed monitor reviews before buying any monitor; there are bad monitors of every type. Also, don't overlook input latency.

[@sigmacrow6783]

@@carlsonmcphallus7366 Thanks man, I will keep in mind while buy a new monitor for my pc. :D

[@omaewamoushindeiru3303]

​@@carlsonmcphallus7366but on 5:20 it just looks terrible how extreme smearing is, does it vary on monitor brand or is it common on all VA monitors??

[@LurkerPatrol]

Dude this is the single best video I've seen comparing the two panels. No fluff, no bullshit, just straight facts. Please continue in this trend. This sounds strange but your voice is also amazing. You don't speak fast or too slow, and you don't have any weird inflections. You have a nice clear sounding deep voice as well.

[@Fix44]

Unintentional ASMR

[@kriswayne7938]

What's best for designing like ux and ui?

[@carlosassuncao2380]

I do appreciate so much, not only your accurate review but also your kindness calling for liking and subscribing at the very end of the video. So polite and ellegant.

[@Ghost19_]

Coming from IPS for almost 15 years now and trying VA for once (due to I needed an ultrawide real estate for my work), in coloration: VA is surprisingly tolerable for color work-related purposes, but VA still has its downside esp when it comes to bleed, full black screen, and to others you might even noticed some unevenness (I got lucky my current VA monitor was well-manufactured and its stock calibration is good). But if purely for gaming though, VA and IPS doesn't really factor that much to be honest. In the end, it can still boils down to the quality of the product: A well-optimized and quality VA monitor is worth considering and can be a good alternative to a decent or average quality IPS monitor.

[@KindOldRaven]

Technically, outside of literally two transitions or something, there's Samsung VA panels that are faster than anything besides the fastest 240hz IPS monitors out right now. They all have their own issues though.

[@3Dant]

@@KindOldRaven That Odyssey G7 would be on my radar if it weren't for the prohibitive price point. Seems like a great all-rounder.

[@jotapeeee4009]

If you want to watch content, a good VA is better than a good IPS

[@Ghost19_]

@@jotapeeee4009 VAs are actually improving more than ever before, it really is just that when it comes to color accuracy, IPS would have it better as that's what it's exactly made for, thus editors to professional visual type of works would opt to have one at least.

[@meissnerflux]

Especially for games like Skyrim.

[@FallenLight0]

This white leak on the left down corner on IPS panel 06:10, is this normal? Every IPS pannel has it? Or this is a problem with this monitor?

[@polachanjohny]

Common issue of lcd displays (LCD VA, LCD IPS, LCD TN)

[@FallenLight0]

@@polachanjohny I see, but isn't this VA panel in the video also LCD? Because it doesn't show this light leak.

[@polachanjohny]

@@FallenLight0 ips is more evident to show ips glow and edge light leakage than VA. Every panels are different. Some are more prone to light leakage

[@FallenLight0]

@@polachanjohny I see thanks

[@koray6261]

No matter how hard I look at it I don't notice that issue on VA panel: 7:16. This just doesn't happen on mine.

[@PotatoPiEBench]

Why this channel got only 373 subs? It deserves more

[@Driftwood420]

Well those subs sure went up a lot in 2 months 😂

[@Aetlaify]

Best IPS vs VA panel comparison ever date! Subbed!

[@MJSonOfHarry]

As someone who frequently watches logs, I’m really glad I went with IPS rather than VA now. That worst case you showed is pretty normal for me.

[@adriannn3720]

...not really? I have a VA panel. The only time I've seen black smearing was when I connected a PS3 to it, because obviously the games there run at 60 FPS or lower. Not a single problem with PC.

[@unknown185]

Ips glow will bother you

[@MJSonOfHarry]

@@unknown185 it doesn’t? but i appreciate the concern.

[@unknown185]

@@MJSonOfHarry it does. If you have an black background (dark mode apps, games and other), you will notice it. Going from va to ips SUCKS.

[@MJSonOfHarry]

@@unknown185 no i mean i personally am not bothered. sorry to hear you had such a bad experience though

[@SenpaiDaT]

Thank you sir for this video. You just made me make a choice that've been bothering me for 2 days. And btw, I love the way you articulate and speak. Feels like hearing a nice gentlemen . I'm now subscribed to your channel and exited to see more.

[@jimgom3337]

Great comparison ! I am really amazed cause i already have a VA panel and have none of the issues such as black smearing and ghosting. I even tested with black background and white text and it was like the ips of your video, not even the slightest black smearing or ghosting !

[@moritzhaaks609]

Which monitor du you got?

[@jimgom3337]

@@moritzhaaks609 AOC C24G1 24" FHD 144Hz 1ms

[@sharonurbano2193]

I like the variety of things shown/discussed in your comparison, the way you replayed, highlighted and slowed what you were showing and how you got the info across while being concise.

[@intifadayuri]

Man this video is a life saver. I planned to buy a VA monitor as my main one, but it seems to suck for both gaming and coding (the two things I'll do mostly), so I'll probably stick to a previous IPS monitor I had in mind. A lot of thanks for your time and effort in your research 😊

[@stew360]

i bought a 240hz Acer VA panel and it does not suffer from.such black smearing effect and the colors are popping and contrast are pretty good

[@stew360]

@Nicholas Acosta Yes and no , it depends on the panel itself and even sometimes from one to the next .. I had 2 VA monitor identical model and one had black smearing the other didnt , both using the same overdrive setting everythiing . So its a per unit basis .. Some have very good overdrive setting that negate most of the black smearing . Some simply have it

[@zulhailmie]

@@stew360 Hi, could you share the model name? I'm looking for a VA panel

[@stew360]

@Zul Yes but i bought 2 and 1 of the 2 had black smearing and the Overdrive did not work properly enough to compensate for my taste the other was good So its Panel lottery i guess Acer Nitro XZ3 XZ273U Xbmiiphx 27" WQHD 2560 x 1440 (2K) 240Hz (Using Display Port), 1ms (GtG) Both were the same model 1 had black smearing the other didn't exact same brand exact same model i kept one and returned the other !

[@TDR-0484]

@@zulhailmie i have the samsung Odyssey G7 and it has no black smearing at all. Best monitor ive ever owned

[@burgarboy1032]

Altering the Overdrive settings on your viewsonic monitor (if it has any) may improve the ghosting/smearing, increasing the black level also might help. Summing up VA as a whole as being worse when not considering the settings and the model of display used is somewhat misleading.

[@theblackswordsman9951]

Yeah i have overdrive and black smearing is almost unnoticable.

[@zendraw3468]

i wuld say its not misleading. i had an acer VA and no matter what settings i used, it aways had the black smear, the boosting or overdrive or whatever it was fixed it slightly but it cant remove it completely. it is aways noticable and for someone who sits behind the monitor alot of time its like a thorn in the eye.

[@lesROKnoobz]

you shouldn't have to calibrate shit to make it look better after buying it. should work out of the box without issue. IPS is superior

[@theblackswordsman9951]

@@lesROKnoobz It's not calibrating it, just changing some setting. VA has superior black levels, contrast and color accuracy. They're better at different things.

[@lesROKnoobz]

@@theblackswordsman9951 I've always heard ips has better color accuracy

[@timon367]

As an owner of both a VA panel and an IPS Panel, I never have issues on my VA panel with black smearing, as I also code in visual studio code with a black background and white text.

[@ThaexakaMavro]

same

[@miranda8370]

As someone trying to figure out which monitor to use (only used laptops up to this point), this video was super helpful! It's one thing to read about it and another to see the visual differences. Thanks!

[@uribak9144]

I have a Samsung screen with a VA panel and I don't have the problem of smeared text in black. In my opinion, your response time settings are incorrect or the panel is damaged.

[@vladimirmasek8525]

TOP comparison! thanks a lot, I almost bought a VA monitor myself, fortunately for me I saw this comparison first!

[@paragonnight437]

Watching on my phone because it has a better screen than my monitor xD Edit: As someone who uses dark mode on everything, the smearing instantly made me not want to risk a VA. Good video.

[@kuso4506]

Now my struggle of finding which panel is better comes to an end. Thanks for this Crystal clear comparison mate, Cheers!

[@phenixwutao]

which panel is better for coding work and reading? IPS or VA? thanks friend

[@kuso4506]

@@phenixwutao if you like a screen that has darker black and doesn't mind the limited viewing angles go for VA. I went for IPS cause I play and watch animes a lot so I can enjoy the 180 viewing angles and colorful display

[@jk9413btc]

Thx for this comparison! The black smearing with white text on dark background was the knockout for the VA panel. Because I am programing a lot in dark mode. That was very helpful.

[@rolandb.1866]

wow. I have a VA and I haven't really noticed the black smearing until now. Now that you pointed it out, it's harder not to see. Interesting. good comparison.

[@Kscrop4]

maybe because u have a newer model of VA newer monitors wont have alot of smearing while older ones like this one shown in the vid that is a model from like 5-6 years ago will do most likely.

[@rolandb.1866]

@@Kscrop4 I made my comment 2 years ago with a then 2 year old relatively cheap monitor. The smearing is there but If I don't pay attention, the smearing might as well not be there.

[@Kscrop4]

@@rolandb.1866 yh i know especially now newer models have barely an smearing to none people are just always comparing really good IPS to the old VA that used to have plenty of smearing

[@SergioValentino]

Me watching this video on a OLED Panel

[@system450]

What panel ?

[@stefanievandervis7932]

on a phone proberly

[@artemio8]

@@stefanievandervis7932 no TV

[@JcRabbit]

@@system450 I'm not Sergio, but me I am watching this on a 48" LG CX OLED. Want to talk about black levels? Get an OLED, anything else is fan fiction eheh (I have my previous 43" LG IPS side by side as a secondary monitor so I can actually tell how the difference between the two is night and day).

[@ManOfAttitudeLP1998]

Me too on my Oneplus 7T Pro 90hz Oled wqhd

[@TechItEasyCollective]

This was really interesting actually, appreciate your time, keep it up ✌

[@bridew]

One of the rare reviews showing the tech visual proof...all the others say VA not even showing why, thanks a lot

[@michaelzoran]

QUESTION: Toshiba has said the 55" C350 model I just bought from Best Buy is an IPS. However, the screen behaves like a VA with verry poor veiwing angles that lose brightness and color - especially with a color such as orange. For some reason the blue colors aren't as noticeable. But take just one step to the left or right changes the color intensity. That is NOT the behavior of an IPS. That is what happens with a VA. Toshiba uses a VA panel in the 75" model. I'm wondering if the 55" model now uses a VA panel for 2024. Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions? Viewing angles are important.

[@NeoPlexCZ]

Few years ago I bought VA (from MSI) and I had chance to compare with quite old IPS monitor (aoc brand). And I had same results... I was very disappointed by VA panel. So I decided to return VA and I bought new 144hz, g-sync IPS panel. It was quite expensive, but definitely better choice.

[@Chaos-Nyx-Erebus]

You can find right now within 250-400€ bracket quite good such panels (IPS, 144Hz, G-Sync/Freesync Premium). 4-6 years ago, they were the best thing since sliced bread and were costing usually more than 600€. Personally, I love the clarity (PPI) of the 27" 4K, but it's typically at 60Hz only and require far better CPU and GPU as well since the resolution requires a lot of horsepower.

[@DevineGamingTV]

One thing to note is that a VA panel could be problematic for FPS games where you have enemies hiding in slightly dark corners. The VA panel will completely hide the enemies sometimes, so for that reason alone i ended up returning it in. I had my squad shouting in the mic while playing Cyber Attack in Mw19 for me not noticing enemies in obvious corners. While te VA panel was a little bit more "immersive" for movies and offline games where the contrast is better, I was overall more happy with the shift to IPS.

[@Vik1919]

I am happy with my first VA monitor which I got recently. I only use it for single-player games with my PS3 and man, do the games look way better on it. Especially horror games. I get truly immersed in games like that. I wonder how Dark Souls will look. And sure, there is a little bit of black smearing and ghosting but they are generally ignorable. I can still focus and immerse myself in games so they are not really issues for me. Nothing is perfect anyways. I have gotten used to it and I am glad I did.

[@railfans-psi]

Are you seriously? What about Shadow Boost settings?

[@DevineGamingTV]

@@railfans-psi Literally destroys the visual fidelity overall.

[@louismamon169]

Best review! Thanks mate. Now I am going IPS all the way

[@SonGoku544]

IPS sucks in dark scenes in games

[@higorss]

@@SonGoku544 what about everything else?

[@711CokeSlurpies]

This was the best video I have seen on this topic. Thank you so much for this!

[@nonsense3455]

Really amazing comparison, u've helped me to decide between IPS and VA finally

[@eVilmoogl]

I appreciated the spirit behind this video and the update with the G7 but the result is flawed. I couldn't find an RL way to test VA black smear so I relied on videos like this from reviewers and other PC gamer's opinions. The panel shown here must be one of the worst for black smearing, the scrolling dark mode almost convinced me not to get VA at all. The G7 is known as the best VA panel period so of course that one doesn't have it. I thankfully saw other videos that swayed me and got a DELL VA and the smearing is something that you see but that doesn't really affect anything important. Just thought I'd leave the comment here for anyone else in a similar position. I'm very happy with my new monitor.

[@adam_papamastorakis]

I know right!? I highly appreciate people taking the time to write/produce such detailed and well-presented reviews, BUT they do make it look like the VA panels are really bad when in reality you barely notice anything lol

[@ThiagoVieira91]

@eVilmoogl by chance would your monitor be a WQHD S3422DW. Just bought one yesterday one on Dell's online store, after watching videos abou VA on Hardware Unboxing and other channels. But this video got me really scared about gaming on that monitor.

[@eVilmoogl]

@@ThiagoVieira91 S2722DGM but I think either that Viewsonic monitor is just on the worse side or the video makes it look bad. If I scroll white text on a black BG on either of my screens it looks about the same. It's a bad cherry picked example that's clearly not representative of VA as a whole.

[@ThiagoVieira91]

@@eVilmoogl Hey man. Came back to tell you my Dell S3422DW arrived 2 months ago and I'm very happy. I didn't found smearing nowhere near the levels in this video. I work as a software developer using dark mode for my editor and didn't find any bad smearing. Also, scrolling KZbin, haven't found any issues. I think people are testing bad gaming VA panels. Check Dawid Does Tech Stuff's latest video. He published it today, comparing IPS and VA panels.

[@eVilmoogl]

@@ThiagoVieira91 Very nice I'm glad you like it! There's still only one thing I ever notice it in and that's item labels on the ground in Path of Exile.

[@FrancisSyCoCo]

IPS for the win.. glad I pick up an Aorus AD27QD from 2019.. so damn great monitor. loved it..

[@chrisnguyen7731]

Never regret getting IPS monitors!

[@avongunadi]

but i'm disappointed with the bleeding problem

[@magyararon6918]

Most VA monitor is garbage when it comes to motion/pixel response, but it could be improved, for example almost every(even cheap) VA televisions have better response times than VA gaming monitors, most of them match the samsung odyssey models... Its kinda a joke, but i wish monitor manufacturers would put effort into their products and not just pump out garbage, cuz VA deserves better.

[@williamswainson-gardiner2428]

@@avongunadi I have an oddysey g7. It's a VA and it's better than any IPS atm

[@avongunadi]

@j s yup, im going for TN too

[@chrisnguyen7731]

@j s my LG is totally fine. you must set the profile and settings wrong to fk up your eyes. I have bad eyes and really am sensitive to light and "ever changing color", but the LG IPS I have is nice with my eyes.

[@SamuelObafemi]

Please what is the name of the software used here 1:00 to check color Gamut?

[@sgtoz]

I have a 4k VA panel. Haven't seen any of the issues mentioned in the video.

[@peoplez129]

You've made a few mistakes. Firstly, the only way to actually compare both panels would be to run them in desktop color > reference mode on an Nvidia card. This basically defaults to outputting only the sRGB color space, regardless of program. On top of that, the black dimming problem is from OverDrive (OD) option on the monitor being at maximum. What's going on is it's "overclocking" the pixels, which involves prediction of how pixels activate and change, and the maximum settings on OD always overshoots the prediction, causing a blur/smearing outline effect that also ends up dimming things. So it's not a panel issue, it's a setting issue. It seems to also be that specific monitor that makes it worse, because with my panel I do not get dimming that extreme even with OD at extreme setting. The viewing angles also seem to be because of that specific monitor, because my VA panel does not have such a radical difference in viewing angles. The fact that it's curved would also add some discrepancy, because it makes the viewing angle even steeper. The curving of it could even be part of the issue in the first place, as putting these panels under tension does wash out their colors. I would imagine that unless you set the brightness precisely based on the monitors total light output, and dividing that to get an equal number, you also likely didn't have equal brightness between the monitors. In fact, the LG can range from 280-350 cd/m2 at maximum, while the ViewSonic has 250 cd/m2. So setting them both to the same brightness number, could range in brightness difference by 10-30%. VA's can look almost as good as OLED in a dimly lit room at night, and during a bright day. The trick is you do really need to set the brightness appropriate to the rooms brightness. ULMB is also another feature that can massively increase clarity on fast moving scenes, since it strobes the backlight like a CRT would. It also allows you to get even better blacks on VA, because since it's strobing, it's the same brightness, but only half the time, so it's overall less bright. So 20% brightness at default, is equal to 10% brightness for ULMB. Everything else is also dimmer of course, but the brighter areas don't dim as much because they're not blocking light as much as the darker pixels, so what you get is a better contrast ratio because the backlight is physically off during the strobing, and reducing backlight bleed. Some of the color differences also seem to come from the backlight color temperature setting itself, as you can see the IPS has a more neutral/gray/bluish tint to it, while the VA has a sort of yellowish green tint to it. This means the monitors backlight isn't calibrated properly. What you would need to do is go into the menu and adjust the color temperatures individual R/G/B settings to balance it out, not in the OS, but in the monitor menu itself if it has that option, because doing it in the OS will only shift things out of the sRGB color space. Outside of that, the only other way to calibrate it is to use actual calibration hardware like a Spyder. This can cause issues with color vibrancy when comparing the two, shifting colors to darker or lighter versions of themselves. So a red with too much green in it for example, will look more orange.

[@agentmv]

4 months late to the reply but yea, there are definitely major discrepancies in his testing methodology. From someone who was a professional photographer for a number of years, hands down the IPS panels are a mainstay when you're doing visual arts work. But, VA has its usages too. As someone who has both right now, the VA panel I have for my gaming monitor is not nearly as bad or as bad as this test was. For people who are shopping, please do more research as this video fails to address a lot of issues in both IPS vs. VA and not just the stuff this video address which are very barebones on the surface with a flawed testing method.

[@JustSomeGuyLV]

This comment should get pinned.

[@luisangelini2220]

@@agentmv as a veteran graphic designer and 3D artist, I stick to IPS panels, but it is true I've seen VA panels doing great (way better than this example). By the way, I got a Huion Pen Display (IPS) and damn, those black are black. Decided to try that brand after so years using Wacom.

[@dukeljk2191]

Everything you said was objectivity false.

[@magik97]

@@dukeljk2191 everything you said was objectively false

[@tony_2341]

I’ve got an ultrawide curved VA which I love! The price point was totally worth it for me. The price jump was not worth it to get IPS. I’m sure this will change for IPS as time goes on, but for now I’m good

[@Afura33]

Nah VA panel is nice, IPS panel have backlight bleeding and IPS glow which can suck too.

[@zeppkfw]

@@Afura33 Yeah honestly not too bothered with the smearing since my old OLED phones had it and it's not too bad on the VA I love the deep blacks and cheaper pricepoint with curvature so pretty happy

[@Afura33]

@@zeppkfw Yea I always go with VA, I love the picture quality of VA over IPS. I still don't get why so many people are going with IPS, the IPS panel lottery is such a pain in the butt, it is not worth the money and time to get through this lottery. Plus the black looks so grey on it, I don't like it.

[@DarthShadow25]

So I had a LG 27GL850 and It was a good monitor, but I couldn't stand the horrific IPS glow that ruins every low light scene. You get this gray glow in the corners that washes out all color and detail. I ended up switching to an Odyssey G7 and loved it. It had far less ghosting and no smearing that I could see (but then again it is a 240hz panel) and I no longer had to deal with the IPS glow. It was great, but that monitor died last week, and I ended up picking up a LG 27GL950, hoping the much more expensive monitor would reduce the IPS glow, but it didn't. I had that a single day before I ordered the NEO G7 on sale for Prime day. It comes in today and I hope that it will be just as good as my G7 was despite only being a 165hz panel.

[@MortyTheAbrams]

Hey, how do you like neo g7? Want to order one myself but dunno

[@DarthShadow25]

@@MortyTheAbrams The scan line issue has gotten progressively worse. If you can accommodate an untrawide I suggest getting an AW3423DWF. It's the best gaming monitor out there.

[@Leon_Kennedy_1977]

⁠​⁠@@DarthShadow25 cheap and pop, the same rubbish as a Rolls Royce boat tail

[@DarthShadow25]

@@Leon_Kennedy_1977 It's like he's trying to speak to me, I just know it.

[@niro56]

The missing detail on Batman's mask due to the exaggerated black combined with the colder profile plus the smearing of focus on the background textures behind the costume and in other examples is enough to drive an enthusiast nuts. Then I saw the ghosting on text...

[@Поросёнок-з8х]

3:17 tell me what kind of game

[@ReviewsForLifeYT]

it's a first person shooter game

[@gamefax5741]

I went IPS after trying three VA panels. The smearing was on all of them from different vendors and I found it distracting in a lot of content. I even noticed it in netflix movies.

[@meissnerflux]

As I go more deeply into testing monitors I noticed the smoothness also in watching video. There is a more natural fluidity with the IPS panel.

[@Chris-ko7ov]

This is a good comparison, but I still think it's a little unfair. VA monitors does have smearing because pixels have lower response time and the alligment doesn't help, but have significantly better blacks. Also IPS suffers from heavy Back light bleeding and glow, almost as hard as the smearing on a VA, maybe your IPS has a good control on that issue or the recording does help mitigate it. But as VA can't get rid of smearing (helps to tune your monitor with included settings), IPS can't get rid of glow/blb. To me having used both, I still choose a good VA with good settings, as I always play on a dark room, can't tolerate bleeding.

[@Kscrop4]

i feel like VA and IPS are equal in 2024 New VA Monitors have so much less smearing compared to like 3-4 years ago

[@lefc7527]

But these two monitors that you are comparing also have different pixel density. The IPS will look sharper because of that, especially when you do close ups.

Yea, the comparison is somewhat flawed. It shows the difference in general but the monitors couldn't be more different. Also, new va pannels like the samsung g7 and g9 eliminate these problems almost completely.

[@faithful2008]

@ lol g7 eliminate ghosting and increase price at 2 X g5 lol:D when they will eliminate ghosting at the same price then peoples will buy it:D with the price of g7 you can buy 34 inch IPS 21:9 ultrawide and still better colour and better aspect ratio than on va qled 16:9, or at half of the price of G7 you can buy MSI IPS M27q QHD KVM 170 Hz

[@dukeljk2191]

@ they have terrible overshoot though.

[@MMD157]

My VA monitor don't have these problem with texts in dark mode, all things in my pc is in dark mode incluing youtube.

[@Axional_X]

Oh my God. I thought that I needed a better refresh rate on my monitor but now it's clear that Black Smearing was what was annoying me for all this time. You are a legend for showcasing every possible scenario. Thank you!

[@rohanleander]

Keep up this amazing work man , this video need alot of views

[@P48Rescience]

Thank man, you help me a lot to understand the difference between those two!

[@tankokmeng]

No such issue on my VA. Am using the Samsung C34H890 ultrawide.

[@augustosantos5690]

You deserve an like and congratulations ... much explained , but really current date 2023 VA monitors continue having problems with black smearing and motion blur ?

[@leofroop]

Great video, I've been pulling my hair out reading reviews but this actually showed it on screen! I'm now set on another IPS! Cheers 👍

[@e11world]

This is what people want to see when comparing two technologies. Thank you for this amazing review.

[@gabrielchcosta]

Those "deeper blacks" on VA are useless in my opinion, because you must increase your brightness so you have less black smearing because of VA's technology. Any movement on a VA panel messes things up; for instance, if you have a star dotted sky and the scene moves, the stars dissapear while the camera moves, because the black pixels take too long to change from black to a color. I use a 34 inch ultrawide 2k VA display for working, general computer usage and gaming. Its fine for casual use but for gaming is not that good, and sometimes my mouse dissapears while everything is still normal on my older TN display.

[@nerd20fromdiscord]

Increasing brightness will not reduce the black smearing much at all but decreasing contrast will, and yes your correct decreasing contrast makes black into grey but it also makes a va panel not literally hurt your eyes while using it, i am currently the owner of a va panel and i run it at half of the stock contrast settings in nvidia control panel to make it even slightly usable

[@gabrielchcosta]

I might try to decrease contrast later@@nerd20fromdiscord

[@kkgt6591]

This is such an amazing review, really helped me to decide my purchase.

[@m00nyoze]

This is a great vid. The white text on the black background is what started bothering me the most on my VA panel. Reminds me of scrolling down threads on Reddit. It's not a deal-breaking but it sure as heck is annoying.

[@math3capanema]

did va panels evolved after 3 years?

[@ucNguyen-es1fy]

Currently using a Xiaomi Redmi G24, which has a VA panel, and I doesn't notice any ghosting.

[@AlexanderSeven]

In my experience, ips had better colors (was really cool to watch movies after my previous tn display), but va was easier for my eyes for some reason, though maybe just because it was half matte compared to matte ips. Never noticed any issues with moving objects or black colors in my va display actually.

[@SwayerThorS]

Va is more healthy for my eyes. I don't why but it is.

[@NostalgiaforInfinity]

@@SwayerThorS Yeah, I've noticed that too. My VA feels a lot more "soothing" to the eyes even after using it for hours. After calibrating the brightness and contrast, it almost looks as if I'm looking at a printed paper rather than a glowing screen.

[@diocub4022]

What I would really like to see and a lot of people are asking for is the samsung g7 vs the lg 27gl850, since samsung g7 has no black smearing in fast level. But good video nonetheless.

[@RicochetForce]

That monitor is expensive as fuck, and curved to an absurd degree.

[@diocub4022]

@@RicochetForce thats your opinion as someone who has had it for 2 weeks I fucking love this monitor, the immersion with 32 inches and how good the viewing angles are I was very surprised and I believe people who have either ips or tn are missing out. Because I own all 3 different types the samsung g7 is my first VA monitor.

[@volkan.kucukkkk]

G7 demolishes lg 27gl850. I previously owned Lg and sold it to get g7. Best decision ever made.

[@MLWJ1993]

Not even a contest, the IPS will get its ass whooped in everything but colour accurate work.

[@faithful2008]

g7 eliminate ghosting and increase price at 2 X g5 lol:D when they will eliminate ghosting at the same price then peoples will buy it:D with the price of g7 you can buy 34 inch IPS 21:9 ultrawide and still better colour and better aspect ratio than on va qled 16:9, or at half of the price of G7 you can buy MSI IPS M27q QHD KVM 170 Hz

[@wagabababobo5721]

excellent review, one of the most comprehensive and well explained comparisons i think I've ever seen. i think i'll have to go into store to actual see the panels though lol

[@Kensuii]

Does this VA panel blur issue happen to all panels, or could it be that it doesn't? I bought an AG323FCXE monitor from AOC and I am very dissatisfied with the purchase because of this nasty blur. It distracts me and completely spoils my visual experience on a lot of common games and tasks on my computer. PS: Parabéns pelo video, essa informação precisa chegar nas pessoas. Principalmente no brazil, onde você não acha esse tipo de informação no nosso idioma.

[@ReviewsForLifeYT]

the VA panel blur doesn't happen to all panels, but I find low end ones show this issue. low end IPS panels don't seem to to have as much blur

[@Kensuii]

@@ReviewsForLifeYT PS: Congratulations on the video, this information needs to reach people. Mainly in Brazil, where you don't find this kind of information in our language. **** Thanks for the answer. Unfortunately I have two AG323FCXE monitors, and on the website it says it's the #1 gamer monitor, it's not meant to be a simple monitor, but both show the blur.

[@juanandrescb]

Thank you bro, this is the best IPS vs AV comparison in youtube! nice job

[@GatsuRage]

thanks a lot... I've been researching for a few days trying to decide for one of these panels... I was already like 89% sold on IPS cos I knew it had better color accuracy but lots of my friends and reading online and watching other videos said it wasn't as bad and it was way more worth going for a VA panel mainly for avoid the "ips glow" effect that are very well known in the IPS space.. but after watching this video I'm now 100% sold on IPS. I enjoy a lot of movies, anime, and games and I rather have the best image quality as possible, and now days we have IPS with 1ms (GtoG) so no real reason for go for VA anymore.

[@laszlopinter8847]

Be careful with IPS panels though. Nano IPS panels specifically. It strain your eyes very badly, even only after minutes. It's very unhealthy and definitely not recommended by A LOT of people. Check out any forum for that. ( I own a 2720hfa alienware 240hz monitor with nano ips panel and I am selling it. ) I had aoc va panel before and yes I agree smearing is bad but, liveable and you can get used to it. Although I would still choose IPS (if you have the money of course). IPS is so much more expensive. It's insane. The most decent monitor would be a G7. Hands down, best monitor out there. I am buying that when they take this one away.

[@GatsuRage]

@@laszlopinter8847 no idea abou that "nano ips" thing your talking about I did ended up buying an IPS tho, but is a budget 27" 1080p 177hz panel. The eye strain you talking about I didn't really had any issues although I do use glasses (I come from CRT era so I'm very familiar with eye strain) Thanks tho for the heads up maybe it will help some1 else in the future!

[@cakeisalie]

buy a 90+% dci-p3 VA panel, and you'll love watching anything on it, blacks are almost near OLED levels.. almost

[@amonamarth5367]

Thank you for such a good review! i was searching for a video like this for a while :)

[@ReviewsForLifeYT]

Same, so I decided to make one!

[@rohanleander]

Amazing Video man, Ips vs Va and i'm watching this on my Tn laptop screen. lovely.

[@H4stur]

Turning off smooth scrolling in the browser settings has pretty much negated black smearing while surfing with my VA panel.

[@purvajghude7]

Best IPS vs VA panel comparion on the INTERNET dude, I was about to buy a VA panel after sseeing the reviews from big youtubers, but you literally saved me, especially the White text on black background test... THANKs a bunch mate

[@kylegarrett2429]

I dont know how you're going to stomach using it as a secondary monitor next to an IPS. I had to return my VA and fork up more money for a matching IPS monitor and I'll never go back.

[@volkan.kucukkkk]

I did just the opposite. How can you endure that low contrast ratio ?

[@kylegarrett2429]

@@volkan.kucukkkk With money! I simply bought a 500$ IPS 165hz instead, and its 1:1000 ratio doesn't bother me at all.

[@volkan.kucukkkk]

@@kylegarrett2429 I had LG 27GL270-B Ips monitor shown in this video, and my unit had around 1:800 ratio and although I loved the vividness of all colors, dark and black scenes were a mess and I love to play in dark envoirements. So I sold it and bought a Samsung's new G7, a 240 hz monitor, which has far more superior panel than Lg. I admit, colors are not so vivid and eye-catching like an ips but oversaturated colors on ips monitors hurt my eye after 1 hour of usage so I am all happy with my new 1:3800 ratio va panel with inky blacks

[@kylegarrett2429]

@@volkan.kucukkkk Nice, Recently I've been gaming on a Q70T 65' which is a VA panel too, so I get it. I just couldn't stand the two next to each other, especially with the gaming monitor being the dimmer one.

[@volkan.kucukkkk]

@@kylegarrett2429 Yeah, it is a bit dimmer unfortunately. But it is good for my eyes :D

[@adderen]

Can you do one between IPS vs TN? This is by far the best review I've seen.

[@cun7us]

TN is almost exclusively for gamers because of its fastest response time. However, it has the worst picture quality.

[@rrecee2639]

A well thought out practically relevant fantastic review because you show visually what the differences are to the human eye. VA is definitely a no-go for me when I eventually buy a 4K monitor. The black smearing looks terrible. Granted the IPS tech. has lower contrast ratios however it does not look 'defective' just not as good contrast wise. Now to decide on 28" or 32" for 4K.

[@ObraDinn]

Definitely 32 inches. 28 goes with 1080p or 1440p for better sharpness

[@lesROKnoobz]

I don't know why more channels don't do side by side monitor panel comparisons. It's so simple. Good job doing something the bigger channels are stupid enough to not do.

[@Stretch1812]

Ty for this. Having the debate myself but couldn't get a great answer. Going with IPS!

[@TrinoDR]

Odd I'm guessing all VA panels are not created equally, I don't get any noticeable smearing or ghosting on both my Samsung Q70 or my LG UltraGear 32GK850F. The viewing angles aren't quite as good as the BenQ ips I have but that is the only benefit that panel has over my other 2, the colours are comparable and the blacks are miles ahead on the Q70 and middle of the road on the LG but still ahead. I've always bought ips in the past around a year ago I retired my Dell UltraSharp U3011 (ips) had it for many years it's still goin just really old it cost a lot more than I wanted to spend to replace it this time round and decided to try VA for the lower cost and i'm very satisfied with how far they've come along in comparison I think that your Viewsonic is either faulty or a poor quality panel.

[@Gromuhl]

This is true. I have the 32GK850 as well. It has waaaay less smearing than the viewsonic in this example. I can read white text on a black backdrop fine. If the letters get smaller, you can notice a bit of smearing but it's nowhere near as bad as in this video. But if you get a cheaper VA panel, you WILL get a lot of dark level smearing. On newer VA panels, the smearing is even less than the GK850, but it's still there. I can understand that people find it annoying. One of the downsides of IPS is the glow, my IPS monitor has very distracting glow when the room is a bit darker. So much so that I'd rather put up with a bit of smearing than the glow while gaming.

[@ThaexakaMavro]

exactly this video is not representative of all va panel my screen doesn't do that at all

[@SianaGearz]

I had bought an insanely expensive VA monitor back around 2004, an EIZO, i forget how much it was. I returned it right away due to VA black smear. It was pungent, sticky. Since i program and engineer and need to scroll through insane amounts of text, text becoming completely illegible during scrolling was not acceptable, and it was affecting black text on white background too. This was before Overdrive was invented though. I hoped these things would have gotten better by now. I wonder how much colour choice can alleviate the issue. For example my usual editor black isn't really black, it's just a slightly brownish tinted dark grey.

[@Metalyard]

I have Samsung G9 49" (VA panel) and I don´t have this issue when you scrollong the test in blackground!

[@oofgordy4634]

The g9 is not a regular va panel its qled and has hdr 1000 thats going to help it alot especially on that specific test as qled is a type of backlight. The g9 can compete with ips panels honestly.

[@adamek9750]

I have lg gk650f and I dont have it either. I see it more on white backgrounds

[@Kraiord_]

Black smearing occurs because 99% of VA panels have very slow black to white transitions, the only notable exception to this right now is the Odyssey series of monitors from Samsung, so that would include yours. Personally it's not that big of a deal to me, in fact the viewing angles of VA bother me more than the smearing. But everyone perceives these things differently.

[@mimimimeow]

@@Kraiord_ most good VA panels go to high-end HDR TVs, I believe Samsung Odysseys panels are derived from their TV production lines.

[@RuffsTV]

In the process of sending back an MSI VA "gaming" monitor. The ghosting/black smearing was so bad... Its being replaced with an LG IPS panel now. Its a shame TN monitors aren't made much anymore as my old Benq TN panel is amazing.

[@theclub7491]

i was about to pull the triger on an mini led VA, thanks for helping with this information brother, that black smear is big dealbreaker for me.

[@PrecisionzFPS]

I bought a VA panel 2 months ago, I couldn't stand the black smearing as my eyes are sensible to motion blur. It's insane to me that the dark games look so good with the insane contrast ratio but unplayable at the same time, so I sold it and got an ips. Wish I had seen this video before.

[@sottovoce9891]

😂

[@spartys]

dude same i bought a cheap viewsonic va monitor and the motion blur and black smearing are so bad , everytime i move in any game every color changes and when i stop it goes back to normal . its so bad

[@PrecisionzFPS]

@@spartys yeah ive been rocking 2 ips monitors since then, dont give a shit about the ips glow. VA is trash

[@azoyah1401]

​@@PrecisionzFPS IPS Glow doesn't really matter since its the "best" trade-offs of the LCD monitor trifecta, TN's colour viewing angles/colour and VA's smearing easily are worse.

[@Ermelious]

You're using a low end and dated VA panel with slow response time. This comparison isn't fair. If it were one of those newer samsung or asus va monitors with fast response time, smearing will be less of an issue.

[@kanishcktewatia597]

I have an LG VA 32'' monitor. And the smearing issue is there. but only when I set the contrast to lower values. Above that smearing doesnt disappear but it is there and it is annoying sometimes. The reason i kept this monitor is the price. this was 30% cheaper than the 27GL850. with the same specs. response times are not as good as 27GL850 but good enough for 144 hz. there is also a black stabilizer option which helps with smearing.

[@snoweh1]

Back in the day, TN monitors were by far the most common, VA next, and IPS was ultra expensive and uncommon. TN was always trash, but I wanted to see if VA technology had made any leaps in the last 10 years, and clearly it has. Colour reproduction being similar to IPS is impressive. A lot of people say if you use your monitor at night, VA is probably better. And I was considering maybe getting one because IPS glow is super annoying. But I don't think I could live with the black smearing, it's really, really bad. Especially if you use your monitor at night, with dark-mode websites, etc. It's a shame companies haven't worked hard to eliminate poor black and backlight uniformity, it's crazy you still have to play a lottery for decent result.

[@Pavel_M_Mihalik]

I have a Dell curved VA monitor and I see no black smearing. And I've also noticed that my eyes are less tired at night after using the monitor for a long period of time.

[@snoweh1]

@@Pavel_M_Mihalik I got an LG 165hz nano IPS. That blacks are AIDS. Really, really bad. I think I'd give VA a try, because this is honestly so bad. But I'm very sensitive to these sorts of things, I don't think I'll ever be happy. OLED is great now tho, but too expensive. OLED even used to have black smearing similar to VA. I experienced it a lot on old phones. I think it's still be better than IPS glow and awful contrast.

[@Pavel_M_Mihalik]

@@snoweh1 My 4K monitor (Dell S3221QS) only runs on 60hz, so it’s not exactly a gaming device, but it’s not something I care about. I upgraded to it from a QHD flat IPS display and I’m satisfied. The colors look rich, it has lots of useful features (PIP/PBP, flicker-free, HDR…) and didn’t cost much. And if the picture feels off to you, you can tinker with it and adjust it to your liking.

[@SchwartzBOSS]

Thanks for the comparision, especially that white text on black background. I couldn't decide between panel type because i watch a lot of movies, but after seeing how bad the smearing is i wouldn't live with it by any chance. Just ordered nanoIPS by LG

[@su-pq9ts]

Finally found a detailed video, covering all the aspects. Thank you so much. Saving us from all the crap on KZbin.

[@MTheConqueror]

VA also has the blurry text disadvantage which lets your monitor look like it has half of the pixels...

[@martinraunecker]

Nice video... overall i think it also depends on the producer and the brand... i have a Samsung 21.9 monitor and i think it handles the problems much better... i never noticed a real disavantage (except the viewing angle, that's on every va panel the same i guess)

[@dontask9383]

What about smearing while using dark mode coding?

[@lightblue8818]

Thank you for the super clean showcase of the different types.

[@ReviewsForLifeYT]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@anirbaniitgn8407]

That coding part helped me a lot.. coz I was going to order cheap VA panel but now no more.. Coz I always do coding in black background..

[@zenxglobal]

If we mainly focus on reading/writing and watching movies, would VA be the better choice? Or will IPS be better overall since in your test, IPS seems more suited for wide variety of application while there was a negligible advantage for movie watching in VA?