Iron Empire - HOLDEN vs FORD go HEAD to HEAD (Statesman VS Fairlane)

Something a bit different this time, Lets take a closer look at some Aussie 90's Luxury!
Holden Statesman VS Ford Fairlane!
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[@Brodes1983]

You forgot to mention the Fairlane's length has always resulted in the extra leg room in the rear seat. Perfect for the luxury market it's built for.

[@jaco8f7y15]

The statesman is the exact same.. heaps of room in them

[@vaughanatkinson8270]

The statesman is longer wheel base than a commodore sedan, is built on sw platform. I currently own two statos,a vq and wh but have been looking for a NL for over a year now. Fairlane wins for me man, cheers for a great show, from NZ.🤙

[@samkaur4098]

Yeah i thought that too when he stated the statesman was based on the sedan platform?

[@TheIronEmpire]

I didn’t say it was a sedan, i said commodore haha I should have been more specific

[@xdub101]

Cant beat the smooth auto in the 5L fords. The 5L Holden's were so clunky

[@falconberlina8488]

Yeh, the 4L60E was also used in GM pick up trucks, so refinement took a back seat to smoothness.

[@darrenpalmer6073]

I think the Fairlane is a better looking car from this era as time went on the Statesman got better looking. As far as performance goes in stock configuration goes the Iron Lion was in a class of its own for best bang for your buck.

[@kimbo167]

I'd be as happy as a pig in sh*t in either to be honest. They're both a good looking piece of motoring history.

[@TheIronEmpire]

Great attitude

[@kevingm8759]

my favourite bit about the statesman ever since i was younger in vs/vr was the curve around window 🤤🤤 plus the holden 5 litre sounds so good

[@jasonguthrie6153]

Had the v8 and a v6 statsman sold them few years back still have my two e series fairlanes love the but enjoyed the way the statsman drove engines very responsive..but everyone to there own ...Your fairlane keep me motivated to do something with mine ...both cars looking smart cool episode..🤙🤙

[@kymcopyriot9776]

Ah, the Statesman. The Cadillac of Adelaide’s flatlands!

[@TheIronEmpire]

🤣

[@AJ-zv9tn]

the VS stato v6 is ranging from 5 to 10 k while the V8 is 15 to 20. the VS caprice are now in the 20s

[@fo82rd12]

Need to get a set of GT40 heads, Explorer manifold and 70mm MAF on that fairlane ASAP

[@mrcaps1971]

I was always a Holden man but both cars are mint and have their pros and cons. The day that Ford Australia and Holden pulled the trigger and buried the Commodore and Falcon was a very sad day and the final nail in the coffin for locally made products in this country. I'd have either brand as they're rivalry is what made them great. Makes me sad to think that Falcon and Commodore will never be iconic symbols of Australia. I'd be privileged to own either of those cars Thanks for bringing us an honest review of both.

[@Seiskid]

Well said.

[@robertpullin6182]

Not true vs statesman shares the same wheelbase as the wagon which is 110 mm longer from memory

[@TheIronEmpire]

The wagon is a commodore right?

[@mickblack2800]

Yep the Statesmans were built on the Station Wagon chassis, which is longer than the sedan platform, Holden learnt the hard way in the beginning with the HK Brougham sticking a extended boot on a Premier sedan which gave u no more room in the back seat than a sedan which is why the Fairlane has always been superior & always out sold the Brougham & Statesman.

[@nickefi202]

Wheel base is 2826mm on the statesman and the wagon is 2822mm and the wagon never had irs also the seats are mounted further back on the statesman and the wagon seats are the same spot as the sedan

[@TheIronEmpire]

All interesting info! Thanks guys!

[@gacattack1234]

Statesman is longer wheelbase, look where the rear edge of the rear door is. On the commodore it is in line with front of rear wheel arch. Ford looks like a limo the statesman, not so much. The stateys wrap around window is a result of the commodore already having a third window in the c pillar and Holden trying to make it look different. Not a fan of it.

[@falconberlina8488]

Excellent video @The Iron Empire! I've owned more Holdens and Statesmans, but have owned a few Fairlanes and Falcons. Currently own a VS Caprice. I think you highlighted what each one does well. I think the EL/NL cars ride n steer better, but feel bulkier than the VR/VS. As for people knocking ya for not knowing about Statesman being a LWB, it's easy to see that Holden has tried to hide the extra length, whereas Ford shows it off. The Statesman left a bit on the table because Holden went broke in 80's and was still recovering. EA-EL was Ford's equivalent of the VE-Billion dollar baby and your Fairlane proves my thoughts on that.

[@TheIronEmpire]

Well said

[@classicrestostv1fletch764]

@@TheIronEmpire absolutely. You have some great comments here mate. No bogans, which is refreshing.

[@80ZX]

Perfect timing Mate, just having a morning Coffee. Must agree for a person who currently owns Ford, Holden and HSV, the Fairlane is my Pick.

[@TheIronEmpire]

Don’t get too excited man, it’s just me talking for 12 minutes 🤣

[@80ZX]

LOL!

[@FuelBurnMedia]

Growing up, I had no eyes for Mercedes, BMW or Bentley. For a young pup staring out the back window of dad's jade green XE Fairmont Ghia, the most luxurious cars floating down the highway were always the Fairlane and the Statesman. Cracking vid mate :)

[@benturton3358]

I reckon they’re both awesome. I’m a Holden guy though so statesman for me. Cheers mate 👍

[@Made4Viol3nce]

I'm a Stato kinda guy but damn that fairlane looks beautiful sitting at that height. Stato need more low hahaha. Both gorgeous cars. Nice man.

[@0403019]

Very fair video mate. I'm a holden guy, have a few, in particular a vs 3 Caprice 5lt which is what lead me to this video. Both great cars, the 90s was a great time. Your Fairlane looks wicked with the airbags. Personally, I always liked the na-dc fairlane/Ltds.

[@WilliamVandervleut]

Fairlane looks much more premium, the EF - EL series were the best designed

[@poydapoyderson646]

I think the designs somewhat reflect the target market of the day where probably the Ford was aimed at comfort, space and luxury where the Holden was a bit smaller, quicker and sportier. You're so lucky to have them both. New paint looks killer. I'm now past Ford V's Holden and really just appreciate these gems from the past. Thanks

[@classicrestostv1fletch764]

100 %

[@richardtravers2436]

I think the a Fairlane is a better looking car from that era,I have found the falcon range of cars more comfortable than the commodore range, thanks for the video. 👍

[@stephenbrown5921]

Statesman was built on the long wheelbase of the wagon/ute, the same as the Fairlane was built on the wagon floor. Engine performance back in the day was very similar, tho the Holden usually sounded more V8ish. Statesman was always a little firmer in the ride, lightyears ahead in handling. Usually in the motoring press back in the day, the Ford was better for being chauffeured in, the Holden was better if you enjoyed a fang yourself.

[@Low760]

This. He clearly has no real clue. Smoother!better handling

[@falconberlina8488]

Holden actually hid the extra length with the big rear glass and shorter boot. Ford guys tend to overlook it, as Fairlanes embraced the long rear guards and bootlid.

[@its_tricky_dick]

Fairlane wasn't built on the wagon floor. The wagon floor is the same as the sedans in falcons and the length in the wagon is behind the rear seat. Fairlane has extra length added and the rear seat pushed back to provide extra leg room

[@stephenbrown5921]

Have a look at the distance between the wheel arch and the door. The Fairlane ran coils, not leaves but it and the wagon shared wheel bases.

[@rocker2480]

They are both great examples of Aussie manufacturing, I'm a ford guy but I appreciate cars! A nice car is a nice car regardless! And you have 2 cracking examples, great comparison vid ! I would be happy if I had both in my driveway! 👌

[@timhinchcliffe5372]

Open the dome light on the ceiling of the Statesman... you will find a Ford badge 😁 (same ones out of the Falcons). Ford probably made other plastics for the Holdens... those handles look like the old Ford ones.

[@charlietwotimes]

Not just the Statesman, I had a VR Berlina & a VS Calais with Ford dome lights. Bit of a shock the first time. Had a VL, VR, VS, VU ute with a sweet 5.7 & an ED Fairmont in the past & a BF2 Boss 260 currently in the "Sunday shed". Grew up with Fords including XW, XY, XA, XB, XC.. love anything with a Commodore badge EXCEPT the VN & VP (ugly as sin) and the EA (complete junk). Even grown to love the AU - now, it took a while! Falcons + Commodores were fantastic.. & you don't know what you've had 'til it's gone forever. I'd happily have more of either.

[@hisheroship]

I have had my Fairlane since 2006. I have driven numerous other cars, but the seating position, the all-round vision, the lack of alarms and the amazing highway cruising, Has meant that I have not updated, and will probably keep it going indefinitely. They are so comfortable. That Holden is a beautiful car too.

[@godnnat]

NL with a V8 be Easy 10,000 now

[@palacefords]

Never was a fan of the NF-NL as I thought they were too falcon looking. Before them, Ford always strived to make the Fairlane/LTD look upper from the Falcon, to which they did again the AU series but not in the B series. Both Holden and Ford made the interiors the same (or based on) the range of their lower class range, just with some tweaks like electric seats etc, that was more to keep the European voice in people's head happy while keeping their 'buy local's appreciate satisfied. It's a shame it's come to an end as the Fairlanes and Statesmans of today would be worlds away from their roots. The prices I think on Holden's are much higher because of I have found Holden owners have more of the 'Dont make these anymore' attitude and try to push the price up, and especially here in South Australia, Holden's were more to the childhood hearts of the kids as their parents bought Holden's as they either worked there, or wanted to buy 'South Aussie mate'. At the end of the day, a car is only worth what the next is willing to pay for it. Cars like these will never be recreated and with the electric revolution taking a foot hold, they will soon only be referred to how we refer to the model T of that time. Very sad. Nice examples of both though Mark.

[@davidbarnsley8486]

I Ike both them models but Ford for me 😍😍

[@jimclarke1108]

Difficult decision from me, i'm a Holden guy and i like the V8 but the Fairlane has better interior, in my opinion, and i'd feel more comfortable driving the Fairlane.( Statesman has a great colour, Fairlane has a crap colour)

[@TheIronEmpire]

Tough choice for a Holden man to choose the fairlane, well played. Pretty rough call on the colour though! Haha I love the Regency red!

[@alexthemaltesefalcon5418]

@@TheIronEmpire or in later models it was a darker shade withe paint code called seduce

[@jimclarke1108]

@@TheIronEmpire I drive an FGX. Iv restored a HZ premier 5 years. Jet black. Maroon interior from WB caprice include wiring and dash

[@dix4myg278]

What about the vs grange it’s a better looking statesman and it’s way more luxurious

[@TheIronEmpire]

I didn’t own one of those at the time of filming, was just having some fun with a couple cars i owned

[@chrissmith9854]

Great Aussie comparison mate.. Ford just did interior way better throughout the 90’s I might be bias too as I own a 5.0L Fairmont with tickford body kit.. statesman is a sweet looking car both would be nice

[@prezzi5323]

Hey mate what spacers are you running on the fairlane for the G6E wheels

[@TheIronEmpire]

35mm I think

[@brandonroberts73]

wicked vid! that era of Fairlane was stunning!!!

[@georgecupac1202]

Yeah, you're right.

[@philipwest2091]

Both primo cars though have to admit that I personally love the look of the statesman especially in that colour👌

[@robtledgard8068]

The one thing i dont like is when ford stopped making twin headlights for the fairlane, imo thats what set it apart from the falcon

[@stringybarkin]

Love both, but the Fairlane is in my heart, first car was a 68 Fairlane what fun we had!

[@rockbiterhd]

Both look nice but I think fords have always had better interior and finish

[@victorsmith5699]

*Lol....Holden Commodores/Statesmans have always had the better interiors over Ford Falcons/Fairmont/Fairlanes right up to the last VF Holdens and Ford FG X. Fords interiors have always been bland and dated. 💯%*

[@OLDS98]

Thank you for sharing your cars. It is interesting to see the Australian cars. I am in the United States. I like Holden. I liked the Australian Ford LTD/Fairlane. i do not know if you are aware of American GM cars, but the styling on the Holden either influenced or inspired Holden. The Oldsmobile Cutlass supreme sedan 1990-1997 looks like the Holden Statesman in your video.. I have noted that many years of Holdens look like Oldsmobiles. We got the Holden Commodore as the Pontiac G8 and Chevrolet SS. We got the Caprice as the Chevrolet Caprice PPV. We got the Monaro as the Pontiac GTO. Your Fairlane look like our Mercury Grand Marquis-1992-2011 and our Ford Crown Victoria 1992-2011. The window design looks like the 1992-1997 Crown Victoria. Some of your later LTD and Fairlanes look like our 1988-1994 Lincoln Continental. Thank you for the video.

[@JRITCHHH]

Great episode mate, Fairly judged to. But for me personally it's the stato for sure!! Holden bias yes haha but I do like the fairlane to 😎👌

[@TheIronEmpire]

Great attitude to both brand man, cheers!

[@JRITCHHH]

@@TheIronEmpire always brother, Both Aussie Icons so you've gotta love both ❤

[@paulsz6194]

The wrap around rear windscreen on the Statesman originated with the Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme in the late 80’s , into the early 90’s . Just look up Motorweek retro review 1990 "GM10" bodies videos here on YT... you will quickly see where this design originated from...

[@markmathews206]

Go ford

[@wayneturner5133]

Love both cars equally there Australia classics shame both discontinued have owned 96 VS Statesman & Earlier 93 EB Fairlane Ghia great review

[@classicrestostv1fletch764]

Hey mate. Great review and I enjoyed watching it. Just to add some meat to the segment (if I may) the Fairland didn't have a longer wheelbase for ride ability, it came standard featuring the station wagon wheel base, and that gave you better ride ability. As you know, the longer the wheelbase, the nicer the ride. That why Mini's were never used as chauffeur vehicles - lol - bad example, but you get the drift. Also the Fairlane was based on the American Crown Victoria / Lincoln Marquis. This is why the Fairlane will always out-ride the Statesman in comfort and trim quality levels. The Windsor V8 may be down on the kilo-whoppers, but they are super durable. Limo companies back in the 80's & 90's would put a million kays on a Windsor V8 - Again, American based. Given that, the Aussie 304 did a fantastic job, and the Holden ALWAYS seemed to have the better exhaust note out of the two. Man, all you had to do with the Holden was change the centre muffler to a sports, and sound changed dramatically. Anyway, again, great review mate, keep up your great work. Either of these 2 cars in a collectors shed in 2023 would be cool. Cheers Fletch.

[@dragithedon]

Way to much talking Show us more of the cars In and out

[@mattcrick2156]

Statesman for the win for me, cheers Mark

[@jamesforge8107]

Well but together comparo but thought you were a little unfair on the Stato. Both of them are built on the wagon LWB platform despite the Holden not being as long. It makes up for that with IRS. External panels: Fairlane front bumper, bonnet, doors and guards are all Falcon/Faimont. Statesman has Commodore front doors only. Even the front guards were tweaked to make the indicators look smaller. Fairlane basically has a Falcon dash. Statesman has a bespoke dash. I love my Aussie LWB barges & own a DC LTD. I much prefer the earlier style as Ford went to a lot of effort to make NA/NC not look like a Falcon

[@vichetkim5533]

The Fairlane deserves a Barra Inline 6 turbo rated to 1000 hp at the rear wheels, ZF 6 Speed Transmission, LSD and EL GT Falcon brakes and she's all up to date in the performance department. Opportunity to test the effectiveness of a Limousine rear spoiler added to the boot too.

[@mikedubya9313]

That Fairlanes a beast

[@TheH3dgie]

The VR/VS statesman is absolute Porn. I lost my VS in the huge hail storm we had up north in Adelaide a couple of years back. Still breaks my heart.

[@busnutter4216]

Great stuff mate keep up the good work buddy and stay safe and take care... I as usual always look forward to the next episodes " Much support from me as always... Cheers mate from Bill...

[@troynixon209]

Was I the only one that expected a drag race?

[@TheIronEmpire]

Haha sorry

[@MrFathead]

I had a 1999 fairlane and a 2001 statesman when they were both current. I regret selling that fairlane it is still one of my favourite cars I have driven. Ford wins for me.

[@Seiskid]

This model of statesman looks better better today than it did when new. Not a fan of the statesman model after or the very last one. Neither have aged well. But this one looks good indeed. Be a great car to have in the driveway. Its a generalization but I always felt the fords were always comfortable straight line cruisers and the holdens were awesome in curves. But visa-versa with both cars not so much.

[@thejetpilot1]

Stato FTW!!!

[@bradj78]

I have two mint VS Series 3 Statesman’s but can still respect the LWB Fairlane of that era. 👍🏻

[@WayneBarber-d4g]

The Ford with the Windsor will outlast the Holden.

[@peteranthonykapellas1170]

Fords hands down all the way. I'm glad the fairlane dosent have the wrap around window I like the slim style rear pillar

[@johnallen372]

Great video as usual, there both sweet rides 👊

[@MickOTooleroadglide]

Awesome job mate, two beautiful luxury cars with a tough appeal, great work on the tough stands, rims, exhaust & details paint & trim, & keeping both cars Lux's & TOUGH bring on me doing my ZD Fairlane 71 models to the same standard, Fantastic Vid's great work, cheers ❤👌👍👍😎

[@heathwallis306]

Personally i think the fords drive much better and more reliable but the holdens much better for burnouts.

[@knight2425]

When your getting to cars around this age it’s always hard to compare as they live two completely different lives. My feeling is both are equally great and it more comes down to which brand you are tied to but both are cool. The Statesman I believe is based off the wagon so has a longer wheelbase than the commodore. The Falcon always looked more Aussie than the Holden as it was based off an American or Europe car but I preferred the Holden as they always looked more modern than the Ford

[@orion5813]

used to have a supercharged v6 L67 vs stato. was quicker than my mates vn ss 5L!

[@ronniebraine9692]

I'm a 60's and 70's muscle car man, but for what its worth my pick is the Fairlane.

[@aaronsutherland2898]

Have never really noticed but if you look at the wh statesman it’s very similar to the fairlane interior and exterior

[@jfresh3024]

I like the Ford better overall. I don’t like the look of that straight wheel arch on the rear of the Holden. Nice cars!👍

[@scottfarrell1744]

Ford all the way brother these veins bleed blue 👍🏻 great vid keep them coming

[@NoOne56488]

I really miss the Fairlanes(I was a Ford fan until they stopped making Falcons), they're such nice cars and even today have better interiors than what Ford offer in this day and age.

[@mockbattles]

The Statesman has the longer wheelbase shared with the Ute and the wagon.

[@drkntetas]

I'm definitely a Ford guy and want to own another late Eseries Lane/LTD But that statesman has cleaned up into a very nice cruiser. Love your work mate.

[@mick00023]

A statesman wheel base is 💯 different to a commodore wheel base

[@Xav.]

fairlane > stateo LTD < Caprice!

[@AP-rb8eo]

Stato looks mint , cleaned her up well . Holden 5L skids for days

[@kodys1525]

Wish vs statesman,s had useable cup holders ,but been looking at EF and el Fairmont,s and nf and nls latel

[@alexthemaltesefalcon5418]

I am an aussie Mopar fan, but also used to love Holden's, I've owned 2 vn execs , a vr Berlina, VT SS and vy berlina untill last year when I bought a BF xr6.... Ive crossed over and have to say I'm a fan of Ford's, Mechanically more sound and sooo comfortable to drive, I gotta say the Fairlane does it for me in this one

[@TheIronEmpire]

Great overview mate, I love your open mindedness to all brands! If only more people were like this!

[@alexthemaltesefalcon5418]

@@TheIronEmpire like I said when it comes down to it I love Australian Chrysler's, as much stick as they get my favourite valiant is the CL/CM I would love to buy one with a worked 265 in it, just not currently in a position to get one atm

[@Tk-ou9ec]

@@alexthemaltesefalcon5418 I second that as I own a CM now. Best car. And out of marks two,I prefer the fairlanes styling. P.s. my CM is on my channel. Mopar 🤘

[@alexthemaltesefalcon5418]

@@Tk-ou9ec well if U Ever wanna sell it in the future let me know, I like most cars, from imports, to American and Aussie muscle, supercars, hypercars, Anything old and rare but Aussie Chrysler are my faves, Btw loving the channel and content mark!

[@TheHchee]

Great Vid Love them both but cant go past the statesmen for me

[@kerrypierre9494]

Both are good looking cars but I have to go with Ford👍🇺🇸

[@blairread4414]

2 very nice LIMO'S.....Fairlane 👌

[@julesknight9504]

Mark Good shot out and makes sense. Jules

[@cameronholmes7483]

Great video of two Aussie Icons.

[@robbo8566]

Like both of em....awesome channel too

[@serbsavic8774]

Awesome too see videos like this .

[@BenTV73]

Could've done a sound off.

[@nijov5317]

Great vid mate, keep them coming

[@lordhumungous7908]

You know, both the Ford and Holden 5.0L have the same power, with the Ford having a bit more torque and the reason the Fairlane is slower is because it's a bigger, heavier car.

[@victorsmith5699]

Not so much the weight its the gearing. A VR Statesman 5.O V8 with the 4L6OE auto gearbox has a heaps shorter 1st and 2nd gear even with 3.O8 diff gears. The Falcons and Fairlanes BTR 4 Speed have a really long 1st gear which is nearly 90kmh in 1st gear where the Statesman 1st gear is only 65kmh so off the line the Stato will put about 3 car lengths over the Fairlane in a O-1OOkmh race.

[@lordhumungous7908]

@@victorsmith5699 Ah, you're probably right. I'm just watching this video again and didn't consider the IRS in the Statesman before. The Statesman with the IRS would probably have a similar weight to the Fairlane.

[@shawnhill7504]

Love the fairlane .👌

[@jadesmith6823]

That Fairlane is mint 🙏🙌

[@ozwasp]

The Statesman was a longer wheel base than the Commodore. Also Ford didn't offer a V8 Falcon/Fairlane from 1982 until to 1991, when they brought the fuel injected 302 Windsor back in 1991... Holden's were definitely more performance based but the Ford's are such a nice cruiser and look more badass

[@kimbarling4213]

No contest Ford Fairlane and Ltd all the way. Holden's biggest issue is cheap build quality and materials quality.

[@victorsmith5699]

*Lol...can you please explain the "cheap build quality" to me because I own a VR Statesman 5.O V8 from near new and its now got 310,xxxkms and still going strong motor and gearbox wise and the interior quality is very good for an Australian made car. I've got no rattles, squeaks, no wind noise from any windows etc and all panels and doors line up perfectly. I've taken very good care of mine but like I said the build quality is so much better than the Fairlane from the same year 💯 %*

[@kimbarling4213]

@@victorsmith5699 Have you owneda Fairlane or other Ford? So how can you make that claim? My statement refers to the build quality of materials used. Overall. Plastics exterior/ interior. All the lamps, mirrors. Seats ordinary. Suspension. Holden didn't produce a decent build vehicle until the End. And ...I'm not saying all Fords were great either. They had a few quality control issues too. But I am a Ford LORD through & through. But hey if you're happy with your statesman. That's all you should care about.

[@victorsmith5699]

@@kimbarling4213 Yes I've owned an EB Falcon with 3.9 inline 6. It had 60,000kms on it when I got it and by the time it reached 120,000kms the head gasket had blown 3 times.(Absolute lemon) Poor panel fit and finish, horrible uncomfortable seats that even in lowest setting you sit up way too high and just doesn't feel right. I've also owned a 93 NC Fairlane 4.O fuel injected inline 6 and the trip computer, digital speedo constantly stuffed up or wouldn't work, it had heaps of electrical gremlins/problems but in saying that the Fairlane was very comfortable on nice long drives. I wouldn't have made the claim I did in my original comment if I hadn't owned both. My VR Statesman was a safer car for me the driver at least because I had drivers airbag as standard plus ABS.😂😂 Correct me if im wrong but 94 Fairlane didn't even have driver's airbag as an option but I am pretty sure they had ABS. Take care matey.👍👍

[@victorsmith5699]

@@kimbarling4213 Plus Holden Statesman suspension has always been better with the IRS than the Fairlanes that drove like a boat and wallowed with bodyroll even in little corners that made drivers with not much confidence feeling really uncomfortable and not in control. Ford didn't even introduce IRS until BA Falcon. Holdens have always had better suspension setup. 💯 %

[@kimbarling4213]

@@victorsmith5699 Well all i can conclude with your experience is you picked the very rare lemon or the previous owner neglected the cars. Or ...maybe you simply didn't inspect it thoroughly?! As for a 94 Fairlane, that is a dual answer. Why? Because in 94 Ford still manufacturers their NC series 3 I actually own a 93 DC LTD 5LTR Awsome vehicle which I receive heapd of compliments. Also in 94 late in the year the model change over occurred and the NF Fairlane went through to 96. Vr statesman were built off commodore platform . The Fairlane and Ltd's were based of the Falcon wagon platform wheelbase . So were true saloon limos,unlike the vR stato's. Facts.. Holden's have cheap build in parts and materials . Only VE VF finally stepped up to a decent car. If ur happy with your stato, then any argument is irrelevant. I own a last mnth 1982 v8 build Xe 5.8ltr Ghia ESP. Exceptionally rare! My 93 DCII 5LTR LTD AND '02 DUII 5LTR LTD. ALL superb built vehicles !!!

[@todd_harrison4500]

I'm bluebood-ed too😏 can certainly appreciate a nice Holden though 👍 But I've had E-series for over 20yrs and just love them!

[@waynegrosvenor9699]

Fairlane looks better

[@sexyfilothug5410]

Not my cup of tea but your cars are fckn schmick!

[@SomervilleMetalWorks]

i used to be a deadset holden bloke owned 8 in row last 2 were vp commodores. Then i bought an ef fairmont and my god was that such a better car. Sooo much nicer to drive smooth comfortable better NVH. never bought another holden since lol. After that bought a BF mk2 wagon had it for 8 years still got it probably the best, most reliable and useful car i've owned cant beat the space in a wagon

[@sheel2]

Mark I think you need a 00's model fairlane to complete your set 🤣, I'd suggest working on getting a statesman from every decade but it's not a cheap goal! Probably too hard... but a 00s Fairlane is totally in reach!

[@glennponting8609]

The statesman is actually longer wheelbase than a commodore sedan it has the same wheelbase as commodore wagon

[@TheIronEmpire]

Did I say sedan? 🤪

[@TheIronEmpire]

Too be fair, I didn’t not actual dimensions.. I just know the fairlane is longer, and it shows. Thanks for the feedback 👍🏼

[@michaelharris3036]

Cool video man 🥳🙌

[@aaronbensi9723]

Both nice cars..

[@darrenking3187]

I’m biased as mate, but the Statesman came super close in my opinion.. definitely love the wheelbase on the Ford though.

[@gmhkiller]

The ef & au Fairlanes shouldve came out in 351 like the old zh Fairlane wouldve sold and held there value more

[@TheIronEmpire]

351 Windsor would have been nice

[@victorsmith5699]

*With a carby ?...That would be the biggest gas guzzler.💯 %*