Iron or Stone, Which one is BETTER? - Stronghold Crusader

[@AliAyadF]

Wood needed

[@MasterMind75427]

Wood stocks are too low sire

[@vlamrcisco5838]

More wood is needed.

[@mymusicplaylist2609]

Not enough wood my lord

[@nabilmakmal6736]

Lmao😂

[@agateslate7939]

How to place that my lord

[@Chebka_]

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[@rakodoza7601]

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[@hamdaniabda6956]

not enough gold my lord..

[@Shah-q1g]

Can't place that there my lord ​@@hamdaniabda6956

[@mettgurke2469]

Iron has one advantage you didn't cover: it uses less space in the stockpile. So if your sieging an enemy you have more time before the stockpile is full. But at the end it really mattes which distance is longer and how munch farms you can place.

[@foxboi6309]

Stones = "CATAPULT READY SIRE!" Iron = Great source of Gold and weapon production if placed properly

[@theraginggamer095]

There is one more obvious use for stone not mentioned in this vid, and that is to supply ammunition for the broken siege units known as catapults

[@Jefflenious]

True! Generally you don't need that many stones unless you're doing a stupid challenge like me!

[@fadhilyudistira8819]

are you someone who would throw 30+ catapults just to instantly kill an entire flock of pikemen?

[@theraginggamer095]

@@fadhilyudistira8819 no but I might use 30+ catapults to smash through Wolf's chonky castle walls :)

[@Ugh718]

​@@theraginggamer095 But wolf has a pathetic defense in terms of ranged defense units,so u could literally just destroy both of his gatehouses(large and small)with macemen,while simultaneously wearing down his swordsmen and pikemen that are on his keep with crossbowmen placed behind his walls(just target the ground a bit after his keep lol:It should get the job done),and once that is done move in with macemen for the kill lol(I mostly use only crossbowmen armies,but if the enemy is strong I tend to use atleast some macemen lol). Also fun fact:Ranged units CAN ALSO DESTROY WALLS.How?Allow me to demonstrate:Select a ranged unit(archers,horse archers,crossbowmen,arabian archers,firethrowers etc),click on the"attack"button in the lower left menu,and click on an enemy wall.Voila!This also works with buildings;)

[@Joker-no1fz]

@@Ugh718 on the utc patch the ai are better.

[@Awootistic]

This is one thing I like from Stronghold Crusader 2. Ox tethers can load iron ingots. Never made sense to me why they hand carry it when ox exists. Probably because of balancing reasons.

[@unacceptablefringemajority251]

I prefer Iron 100%. Less clicks to sell it and if the buildings are farther away, you can pause->sleep->wake->unpause to get extra help

[@greatveemon2]

and you could just move the stockpile near it then sell and just buy more food and weapons with it. Just secure it with crossbowman and archers

[@CricVela]

i also prefer iron you can make armour from it and you can also sell it

[@Teglamen]

We're assuming no 'pause-trick' in this video

[@RoronoaZoro-ow1vz]

Lol I didnt know abt that Trick how doesit work? when u Pause, sleep the Iron Gets back instantly or what?

[@momon8738]

@@RoronoaZoro-ow1vz it will proc the glitch which another peasants will work on the sites. It works with all building

[@RadekCrazy1]

Meanwhile stronghold 2 iron mine: I have returned and I want a re-match!

[@HalalKaibaLegacy]

My reaction when Jefflnious uploads: POGCHAMP P.S.: You're one of my favorite KZbinrs.. Keep up, My lord!👌

[@NostaleFreak96]

Wow nice video! (I wonder if you got the idea from one of my recent comments on the building tier list^^) Two thins you need to consider too: 1)Stone needs at LEAST 4 peasants to run it, while iron needs always only two. So you need to feed a lot more workers. 2)And also consider that stone need a lot more space to build. Usually you can build almost twice as much iron mines on the same area than stone mines. Still prefer iron 100%, but stone seems at least a very solid choice indeed, didnt know they are that good. Thanks for comparing!

[@Jefflenious]

Peasant inefficiency is usually not a big deal because ale is so easy to get (And high populations means a lot more tax and production) And yeah stone does need more space, that's up to the map makers and the amount of resources available on the map!

[@NostaleFreak96]

@@Jefflenious thanks. I Love your content and that you keep in touch with your Community. Great Job!

[@DRAGON-ww9fo]

can you make a video explaining econmey, food and armies i haven't play this game since 10 years your vids made me play it again, thank you.

[@ivandraatmawijaya6288]

*Jefflenious sharing some information about stronghold crusader in 2022 "The people love you, my lord."

[@Lxcx311]

I love this channel and game :D

[@iseeyou3129]

Hiring hundreds of orchard workers is still the best way to make money which only requires space and saves your last brain cells

[@Krarilotus]

And this is exactly why we increased the buy/sell price of iron and iron weapons, and reduced stone buy/sell cost.NOw stone is still worth more bper building, but with the offset of you having to feed workers it becomes less useful to spam in the early, and you rather want to sprinkle iron for money in. You want still stone for upgrading tech in bootstrap as all the tech buildings cost stone. But you want iron too to get those unit upgrades with maces and armour/swords. Its just way better balanced with bootstrap that way :D

[@CricVela]

yeah

[@themind1401]

Good work, my Lord! I am royally impressed at your accomplishment in creating this video !

[@raewwtfs]

There is a stone quarry glitch, you need to build them, all the workers inside and close it so no other workers can enter thr place and just put the bulls next to stockpile, they will give you stone much, much faster.

[@gambitsheild9814]

The only thing you could of taken into account was the fact was working pop usage. Situationally that may be better or worse for you. If you have the food and you are taxing the more pops the better, but if you are trying to streamline your economy for how much food you are bringing in then less working pops per gold is better.

[@fezvcdhrftzvcswe2903]

You could have also cobered that stonemines need more worker than the Iron mine

[@Jefflenious]

Yeah but peasant efficiency isn't really a problem most of the time, unless you're REALLY limited on food/ale somehow

[@miceruitomi]

Well, I always needed stones for my catapult, but I also needed Iron for my Mace production. However, since many maps have more places for Quarry. Stone looks better to sale.

[@mystictomato9466]

You forgot to mention that stone quarries also require 2 peasants for stone to be delivered to your stockpile (for a single stone quarry) while iron mines only need one. This means (peasant wise) that for 5 stone quarries you can have 10 iron mines. This is a minor thing but it can matter if you are really limited in peasants for some reason.

[@Jefflenious]

Yeah true, Iron mines are more peasant efficient. But at the same time you can put more peasants on stone quarries to make them more efficient, you can't do that on iron mines

[@mystictomato9466]

@@Jefflenious That’s very true. I can’t believe I forgot about that.

[@itsbeta843]

its pretty obvious that stone would win this. Mostly because of that one glitch where you block off the quarries using stone walls so the ox tether's don't get to them and instead put the ox tethers near the stockpiles for faster stone gathering. I personally like both of them but only use one of them because its more efficient and once i gather enough gold and resources I build both the quarries and iron mines. All in all stone wins.

[@kusioo93]

yeah, but you can also glitch iron mines, so 2 or more workers are carrying iron to stockpile :D

[@Kasdeya-]

iron glitch is actually better, you get so much gold with 10+ workers in just 1 mine.

[@lakecityransom]

@@Kasdeya- Well of course cheating is better...

[@nadarith1044]

@@lakecityransom The original comment was also about cheating, ox tether glitch is still a glitch!

[@matheusimon7316]

Really wish the ox could transport more goods like weat, iron or wood since it would make a huge difference

[@TheDarkSable]

Stone also needs more population to work, which increases food demand and increases ale demand. So counting weapon production they're veryyy close.

[@MrGullisYT]

iron mines must be placed on iron ore!

[@andrejchalas6799]

One more advantage for the iron. It employes less villagers, which means, lesser needs on food and overall economy structure

[@ameerm4899]

Always preferred Stone. Easier to find and collect

[@CricVela]

but i also prefer stone you can make towers from it and walls and gates it is also very useful if you are using catapults

[@Swizzed..a.i.]

I like what ur doing there , im in st since 2003 and i must say you have a great induvidual iq with it , but some things are nonsense.....But please keep it up because i was deaming for a such content @stronghold !

[@grrman]

It should be noted that two iron mines require the same prison as a single quarry plus tether.

[@fadhilyudistira8819]

as someone who never uses iron unless I really need macemen to rush the moats and walls behind it, my entire economy relies on stone production. Remember that desert map which has no oasis ground? Yeah, I unexpectedly performed quite well there. at least, good enough to ward off AI Saladin into a stalemate.

[@RedDeadSpree]

Imagine fear factor wouldnt increase the amount of resources u gwt but how fast workers work and how fast they walk that would be cool lmao

[@Yami1300]

In the end It all depends on where you start and how much of each of the two you can hold

[@wahyuhadinoto478]

The calculation of the time produce iron and ston is incorect, coz how far the quary and iron mine is the factor how fast the iron mine and quary product the goods. For example in 1 min on 40 unit, A mine can produce 3 iron. But in less than 8 unit, Only can produce 2 iron per minute. Ideally, iron mine must on 40-50 unit from stock pile. For The quary, how much the stone can produce depend of the location of ox. For example in the same location of quary (ideal 45 - 60 unit from stock pile) when the ox is close to the stone, will produce 16 stone in 55 sec, but if the ox more than 8 unit from the stone, it Will produce 16 stone in 1min and 22sec. And what my oppinion about wich better? Depend of resource in the maps or what kind of game play of each player. For investment, better using stone, coz stone is multipurpose on this game. For example repair the wall or Tower, use stone to refilling the catapul, the selling price is high and more. If you play for fast game play with less gold, better looking for iron mine, coz you can sell less goods with high price or make weapon from iron to make unit or up the price selling. For me, I like to sell iron to buy mercenarry army coz i hate granary and armory (never build it since I win a challance to not use it).

[@emotbagga2646]

lets be honest, on most maps stones are going to make you far more profits than iron ever could

[@garymorris7472]

The people LOATHE you, sire

[@simeonfassett5810]

It sounds like he doesn't know about the stone quarry glitch... Just surround your stone quarries with walls, motes, or even just buildings, and then build the ox tethers right next to your stockpile. If you do this stone becomes so much more efficient than iron it isn't even close.

[@FreedZ]

great work!

[@lymeregis4354]

You forgot to mention that iron takes up less space in the stockpile and iron mines require fewer workers.

[@ageofstrange657]

one advantage for iron mines: they need less peasants than quarries

[@willemvanstaden3292]

Stone quarries and tethers also take at least twice as much pop cap

[@m5a1stuart83]

Stones must be controlled and sell. But Iron can be sell anytime and buy weapons from it.

[@crvenigulas3130]

My strategy is always the same. Create market, mine stones and sell it. Buy the rest.

[@Lampi99x]

Always combinated, or what maps delivers

[@jackthemapper]

Stone is better than iron per what? Per mine/quary perhaps but surely not per employed worker (housing/beer/food needed) or per spent wood right?

[@Jefflenious]

Yeah right If you're using the weapons on troops than iron is definitely better than stone, but if you're selling the weapons stone is barely a better gold source (You need to invest into workshops too) Iron by itself is never able to compete with stone

[@aivarasandriusenas9693]

Thank you man 👍

[@aleksitjvladica.]

I mean... this is easy to answer.

[@CubeItself]

iron is too shy to fill ur stockpiles

[@antos3050]

Better is the one that you have access to

[@LightsOfDream]

Just a tip: u can build walls with stone, but u cannot with iron.

[@2ndpopcornxD]

1:56 Otherwise, stone is better than I am.

[@Ardenscaelum]

Iron has 1 more advantage iron takes only 2 people while stone takes least 4 people so if you have a tight space so you cant make more inns iron is much better

[@roohullahkhan6788]

I love stronghold crusader and i am in last mission

[@بودىبودى-ز8ن]

niceeee

[@garymorris7472]

Iron mine with extra workers

[@неболаја]

27k gold, no change in d treasury my lord! hahahahahahaha

[@HowlingWolf518]

I mean, you can't build walls out of iron.

[@charliediez4746]

Stockfish?

[@usamaalahi6468]

help pls when i host the room in gameranger and start the room my friend is facing this problem waiting for host help me in comment pls and italic problem help pls

[@Jefflenious]

You can't play each other if your/his name are in italic, and yeah you would get stuck on waiting for host One method that fixes this for me most of the time is using a VPN called WindScribe, windscribe.com/ Just go ahead and sign up, you would get a free trial which is more than enough for playing Stronghold!

[@Drake77Warlord]

Is it working same for Stronghold 2 and Legends since iron also gets ox transport like stone?

[@lordsnia2152]

nice

[@mrdeathr6s]

Hello!

[@nk6536]

Best is Iron Stan

[@Cetus2222]

Idk i prefer both of them

[@TechieAhmadYT]

Wood 🪵🪓😅

[@apolloolympian4669]

Wait, what? Don't stone quarries bring 8 by default and 12 by +50% of -5 fear factor? And isn't iron 1 by default and 1,5 on -5 fear factor? (the guy just drops a second iron every 2 cycles). Am I missing something?

[@rez4ie]

nah if the game is "computer advantage" it's 8 if normal it's 12

[@MrKaplanFilm]

I love your channel dude, but that AI voice just freaks me out.

[@xxlCortez]

Or you can just use wood to make crossbows.

[@mercury2162]

yo

[@kapikapi2195]

UR mom!