Is a $1000 Fox 34 Step Cast really worth it?

[@EvansMTBSaga]

If you want to buy this bike (affiliate): tidd.ly/3ny3qwz

[@fillerschreiberfamily5213]

Dude you need to match... I DARE you to get a fox dps factory

[@xavespro8279]

no

[@EvansMTBSaga]

@@fillerschreiberfamily5213 Haha I like the dare! I'll keep my eyes peeled. I do have a problem with the DPS factory being a darker gold than the fork kashima

[@allocke9446]

I'm happy with my fork (on a budget) but someone let me try their RockShox SID Ultimate and it was, to say the least, impressive.

[@wilmernordman6268]

That was a pretty good first upgrade considering it costs a good fraction of what the bike costs! Its good that you treated yourself with this fork cuz you've REALLY deserved it! You've ridden a number of parts with considerable quality over the last year! Im reffering to you ZTZ

[@sim_dude]

Such disappointement in ztz

[@wilmernordman6268]

@@sim_dude yea. Their solution to the old one leaking oil was to remove the oil?! What the shit And the lowers were barely even sitting on?!?!?!

[@sim_dude]

@@wilmernordman6268 i would love to see them redemm themselve with a bit better equipement, seals etc...

[@wilmernordman6268]

@@sim_dude yup

[@JaredRMorgan]

Glad I could help! Great video! Animations give it so much life. 🙌

[@youtubeviewer9523]

Almost 10K subs, before you know it it will be 100k!!! this channel is growing so fast.

[@nathanlickelz3365]

I love how it just ends on expensive carbon parts with regret of his question. Amazing video!

[@Max-ek6nn]

It would be cool to give it a matching float dps factory, make it straight high end

[@rocco.mbb.zoccoli]

Been lurking for awhile… subscribed now. I appreciate the no holds barred reviews.

[@zypsy24]

I love the storytelling on this video! Keep it up Evan!

[@fishrideandski4910]

Rip Evans Wallet, you for sure have my respect

[@davidmain8696]

I'm laughing with you when I watch this! It feels good to see another person who has shared this experience also. I totally get the opening the box euphoria because I just got mine yesterday and it was so much more than I expected to own. And, in similar fashion, I put it on my $1200 used bike I bought in the early spring. ( I have the regular and not step cast) I could not cut that steerer tube....you are braver than me. I just held it like a new puppy and watched KZbin with it. But...I took it to a shop this morning to get the deed done. I also forgot about the 15 x 120 axel until a day after I ordered and then bought a single budget wheel out of desperation and am still waiting for it. The wheel was basically used and abused anyway. I also put the 4 piston Shimano XT brakes on the same bike last month. Did I mention I paid $1200 for the bike? LOL!

[@s14tat]

That improvement is mind blowing. Looks like you found the type of bike you are looking for.

[@alexgolik6596]

Heck yeah! Been following this channel and working on some bike builds on the side. Really insightful as always! Congrats on the fork my dud

[@ForEverMTB]

You deserve it bro..... Have a great day

[@sim_dude]

Did the same on my process 134, i'm upgrading the recon to a lvrik ultimate. Can't wait to ride it! Missing the correct brake adapter for my 203 rotors

[@damo9871]

Bro I love your Chanel and believe that it is highly underrated you’ve helped me and entertained me ever since I found you keep it up!

[@eroldemirbas2350]

this channel make top tier mtb videos you should be at like 3M subs right now cuz you make real quality videos and you deserve it Erol From -Saga Squad-

[@mikosmachine]

one of my new fav bike related channel!

[@antoniosanjuanbenito969]

This has become my favourite mtb yt channel Great job Evan

[@bryceb1234]

Now to replace the rear shock with a Fox DPS! I was floored at how much difference upgrading the rear shock made.

[@NeutralGenericUser]

That gopro shot of the fork in action is incredible!

[@instantmilk4306]

I’m so sorry I got a polygon sisku t7 and my dad got the d7 because I of your previous amazing review video, I feel terrible that I didn’t buy it through the link and you deserve it so for all your work you put into your video’s.

[@zmiller1840]

Its an awesome upgrade and I'm looking to put a beefier fork on my D6. I think for more down country I would have opted more for the regular fox 34 over the lighter less robust step cast version.

[@sim_dude]

Id'look for a take off 34 rythm !

[@zmiller1840]

@@sim_dude I'm pretty set on a bomber z2

[@colemitchmtb]

Could also look at the Sid, it's got a 35mm chassis while being lighter than the 34

[@andrewscasualmtb]

You have great content. You have bikes that even I can afford. Subbed!

[@havran5o]

There is no sound half through the video 😢

[@justsomeone9876]

CONGRATS ON 20K EVAN

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Heck yeah thanks dude!

[@reuben911]

this chanel is about to blow up👍

[@bryceb1234]

LOL! I decided to do exactly what you did (even bought the same problem solvers kit) and then saw this video. Glad to see I was on the right track. Going with purple grips and pedals though.

[@WOLFTICKVIDEOS]

$1100 dollars!! Dang Evan, that is some crazy 💩. I would congratulate you on 9k but by the time you read this you will probably be at 10k😉. Glad you are finally getting some back after all the time and work you put in. Keep killing it man. Flip Phones for life👍👍🤣.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Yeah I sold the Mythique and it covered the cost of the Fox fork. Worked out great. I lost my last flip phone and picked up this one for $20. Can't beat that

[@BenTrenBro]

Here take this 💖 as a motivation to never stop uploading videos😊

[@SLPrevious]

i buyed the 34 Fox Kashima Fork yesterday, for a reasonable price. Im riding it for 2 Days now and need to say that it is reaaaaaaally nice and i kove how it looks!

[@sim_dude]

Congrats on the fork ! I bet it's making that much more capable as well

[@akebo6578]

This guy is so underrated

[@GhettoSuguru]

LOL the cure cycling part. Carbon upgrades ? Hell YES

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Haha he saved the video. Also he provided content for another video coming up!

[@JaredRMorgan]

Ayyyyy! 🥳🥳🥳

[@noahtobler9967]

The discoloration on the stanchions is from SRAM butter. It's the lubricant for the stanchions so you might want to keep it on.

[@OutKartnAround]

You sir, have yourself another new subscriber. I really enjoy seeing vlogs/reviews in this range. Really eyeing Polygon as my next step up from just putting around with my Marlin 6. Coming from national level BMX racing in my past has been a pretty fun transition.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Oh man so awesome to hear! I also raced BMX on the national level for quite some time and so glad I jumped ship on that discipline haha

[@OutKartnAround]

@@EvansMTBSaga nice! Yeah my body is certainly thankful for it! Although my shifter kart racing has certainly been making sure I stay humble as I age

[@timecost]

Nice intro, like a movie producer!! What software you use? Get affiliate for it just like everything else. You are on another level finding the the "Cure" Lol. Nice work with others from mtb community.

[@braydonphillips2226]

Man, these videos are great.

[@anon5387]

Best my friend keep going like this support from me only love and happiness to all people and never give up i wish the best to all people !!

[@alan181090]

New subscriber here, I watch all your videos and quality and you and your evolution and develop and all are going in the right direction, hope you can have more audience, subscribers and views, you deserve it

[@odyss_fpv729]

Yes make it as light as possible it would be a fun experiment

[@ryanttucker77]

I just bought the podium gold, for the gold T8; game changer.

[@fredEVOIX]

if you have an older front shock with only open/close settings in my case a 2016 ish rock shox reba RL it's absolutely totally worth it the middle setting made a huge difference on wood paths and I became faster everywhere with less effort and more importantly to me my shoulders hurt a lot less I was unable to ride with the rock shock because they were basically stiff-stiff-stiff-full travel-stiff-stiff-stiif Foxes are absolutely not like thhat they move sometimes not much but they do with less than 30 miles of training that year I immediately did 47miles 5000ft uphill a mountain and down I don't regret my upgrade, it's way more progressive and smooth

[@metalofthedeath]

I think buying a new front wheel is easier than putting that boost conversion kit on

[@zach5836]

just a quick heads up, from a bunch of tests done on crank length they don't really make a noticable difference (usually 165-175mm are tested) and shorter ones just have more clearance, maybe the fact that they were new and difference made it feel faster (and obviously the fork)

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Well I went from 165s to 175s and the difference was crazy. I really regret having rode 165s. Not enough leverage

[@_systemd]

@@EvansMTBSaga well part of the leverage equation is the gearing, ofc if you install 200mm cranks you will feel a great increase of leverage. then you adjust gearing. and you are back to where you were.

[@larryisaak6431]

Great video as Always

[@litanyofhate9490]

That's a fine beauty of a fork you got mate👍

[@eugene44569]

3:07 do you genuinely use a flip phone lol. Also Jared's upgraded t7 is only 1 pound heavier than his FULL carbon niner. So carbon parts aren't always worth it unless you want something nice lol

[@mrtssmith]

Just did the same thing to my titanium hardtail. Great fork!

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Oh man titanium! That's probably a cool build

[@johnwillard645]

Nice review. I love my 2021 D7.

[@hano1753]

underrated channel

[@wowik420]

1:45 that cut was 40 bucks :D

[@eugene44569]

holy shit this video hit 100k views. congrats on your first 100k.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Heck yeah thanks Eugene! I changed the thumbnail and brought the video back to life

[@eugene44569]

@@EvansMTBSaga smart

[@darrinkulyk9560]

I just bought a Rocky 150/140 28lbs . Thinking I Could Love That Fork NP😎

[@GFClocked]

Man, carbon wheels literally changed my bike. You should try and check some of those for next upgrade. You also don't need to buy the fanciest ones either.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Chinese carbon wheelset?? 😍😍

[@GFClocked]

@@EvansMTBSaga yep, got some high quality Chinese ones. They do cost, but not even close to zipp or dt

[@czedelicious8020]

Okay subbed at 9k lets go 100k!!!!

[@jgutie4377]

I just got my polygon d7 and the fox 34 is what I originally wanted

[@OneDotHeroes]

Cool channel and a Berm Peak jersey too! One more subscriber gained.

[@carlomac]

What was the appraisal on how the bike handled? Yes it’s quicker but actually saying how different the bike handled would’ve been helpful.

[@itr0863]

You are the best evan !

[@russ7885]

Before buying one of these google fox 34 stepcast rebound problems, there is a major design flaw and you'll save yourself headaches with warranty claims

[@youtubeviewer9523]

Just got my new bike!!

[@lb0538]

I think you should lace up a carbon wheelset. Light bicycle makes really good en budget friendly carbon rims, lace them up wit dt swiss 350 hubs and you are done with just $700

[@bikesonline258]

That looks awesome! Crazy how much time you were able to shave off too!

[@Digital_Gangster]

If you do a wheelset upgrade look at Hadley hubs. Not as cheap as Spank or Hope but they're USA made and supposed to be like budget Chris King.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

I'll check them out right now! Love the advice. You make the Saga Squad strong

[@adriaan3649]

Begin with the things that matter when upgrading the bike. So far the fork was a worth while investment, but I do think that the tires would be a better upgrade to do next as those ones look a bit under gunned. Better rubber always makes a world of difference!

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Dude good advice! I'm never really sure what tires to go with. Any recommendations? My terrain is rugged, loose over hard. But also want a fast rolling tire.

[@adriaan3649]

@@EvansMTBSaga Maxxis Aggressor, Schwalbe Nobby Nic/Hans Damf and Michelin also make a few tires that roll fast and last long. Rubber compound is also important. Maxxis 3C Maxx Terra would be good for the Aggressor.

[@beholdtheflesh88]

@@EvansMTBSaga My vote goes for Maxxis Rekon in back, Minion DHF in front. Retains that downcountry speed with the back tire, but a grippier up front where rolling resistance won't matter as much.

[@racemanstill]

Nobby Nic are the best

[@purplegarage05]

Dude you should take a look at the dnm usd 6s fork Its super weird but cool. Its an enduro style fork and its inverted with no fork bridge

[@TheCaptainsCog]

I know a guy (simple pleasures mtb) here in LA who has those forks. Pretty cool you can fit any wheel size in there and he made one of his bikes a mullet because the fork could handle a bigger wheel.

[@purplegarage05]

@@TheCaptainsCog will definitely check it out thanks man

[@The_RC_Dude]

Man, that fork ain't cheap! But it is Fox, and a popular model...and it's "high end". I think that carbon upgrades aren't needed, just please don't buy carbon wheels, it's a lot more money but not that much more performance, you'd be better off going with better tires.

[@IVANMTB]

Buen video bro!!🤟

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

Boost spacing mishaps, pff hold my Gatorade: I did order a 27.5 cane creek helm for a 29 bike. Discounted, final sale. 😅

[@Perception_]

The question is what you would get for selling the bike and then add $1100 on top of that for a new bike purchase, or a solid second hand one. Personally I would go that route before the bike takes a plummet in second hand value. I've recently upgraded brakes on my personal commuter bike that cost more than the bike itself, but that bike isn't worth selling in terms of monetary value, so that to me made sense given I use it 365 days a year and don't own a car. It's all about price per year.

[@MozOnBikes]

Bit of a strange ending, felt like the clip was cut short halfway through that “do you think i should get some carbon upgrades for this bike” sentence, like there was more to come after?

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Nope that was all. Glad you watched til the end!

[@AORNova]

@@EvansMTBSaga I'd upgrade the shock next, before the seal fails. Those Rockshox Select shocks tend to have seal leak issues into the neg air and it becomes harsh (and noisy) quick. Plus it is very linear and bottoms out easily if you noticed. You won't regret swapping it 😎 Keep up the amazing work on the channel, following has been great!

[@keith7043]

Carbon cranks will probably save you close to another pound but is it worth it…? Well, they cost a lot less than that fox fork.

[@tanner9978]

You probably won't read this but if you do I think you should build a bike up from a frame like this if you think this would be a fun video to watch.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

I have one planned, but it's more of a reassembly of the S-works haha. Building a bike from scratch would cost too much for me at the moment, that's why I haven't done it. Shoot I only built a bike from ground up twice in my BMX career

[@adamhancock6288]

Did you go with the 44m or 51mm offset for the Fox 34? I have a siskiu D6 and want to get that factory or stepcast fork with 130mm or 140mm travel. Not sure i should go 44mm or 51mm offset with the increase in travel.

[@eugene44569]

half way there to 10k subs. also did my letter arrive in ur po box since it sent it 2 weeks ago

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Yup I got it! Thanks for the kind words

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Means a lot. Also you should make an mtb news channel

[@keosoutdooradventures]

Love Universalcycles, they have a lot of stuff in stock that no on else does!

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Yeah a ton of service kits and small parts

[@TheCaptainsCog]

Universal cycles is my local shop and they just opened a second location.

[@james-hb5tu]

They are the best because they have multiple warehouse locations, so it will get so much faster

[@hudsonmann4257]

The random monaing at the end🤣

[@bumpertabby2155]

Damn the Kashima looks amazing

[@j-rod9933]

Loving my d7

[@RomansDowntime]

Sure been on the phone alot lately and a flip phone at that…. Upgrades don’t leave alot of disposable income for new phones it seems. I get it

[@etofoya8217]

My d7. New maxxis tubeless and longer stem. Handled well at Bentonville.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

So awesome! The D7 brought my love for cycling back. I was in a bad place with my last bike.

[@here_is_gabe]

Do NOT put a zip tie on the fork stanchion, any harsh bottom out can destroy seals and in extreme cases imbed itself into the upper portion of the fork. Cheers Stay safe.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

The two tricks would be to set the sag I imagine, so I hope people wouldn't leave it on

[@Chicagoway37]

Just got hired at Fox in part of future discounts

[@EvansMTBSaga]

That'd be awesome!

[@james-hb5tu]

Really disappointing that they didn't use boost spacing on this bike. I am surprised it has a tapered head tube, almost all new bikes with non boost spacing have a straight steerer.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Right! I'm sure eventually it'll have a boost front. But only $25 and there's a fix for it. If there wasn't a tapered head tube, the bike wouldnt be a great deal

[@Lilou34650]

You don't need an O-ring for the fork, use a zip tie.

[@adamneulander]

I prolly would've gotten a grip2 34 and taken the weight hit but I'm far from a weight weenie, and have never tried fit4, I run a grip2 36 on my bike.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Do you know the weight difference? I've been having a problem with my fork set up and wondering if I should gotten the regular 34 because of the super nice damper

[@adamneulander]

@@EvansMTBSaga I think it's fairly significant, 1780g for the grip2 34, as opposed to 1496 for the 34sc, which is about .6 lbs.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Oh that's not too bad. Could easily be made up with a lighter wheel

[@T800-p7p]

where is nucleus? we miss that bike

[@yuva]

Instead of buying the D7 and upgrading the fork, thoughts on the T8 which comes with the Fox 34 performance?

[@topseller17]

There is something important I just caught that you didn’t explain. The front rotor was riveted to the center lock mount but when you put the rotor back it just had 6 open holes. Did you swap rotors or remove rivet’s?

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Hmm I felt like I mentioned the new rotor. But it's a completely different rotor - SRAM

[@mcndjxlefnd]

I just saw that same fork listed new on Craigslist for $650.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Haha there's probably something seriously wrong with it then

[@vesselsfirst8200]

Ah yes ‘research purposes’ I love that

[@justsomeone9876]

My gosh the fork alone cost 10x more than my bike let alone the shock btw where are you gonna put the recon fork ? Also sticker you forgot em

[@otbtrails32]

You should put on yellow fox decals on your fork.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

I think that's a good idea. The orange definitely doesn't match. I just couldn't decide what color to go with

[@totoal389]

I’m still using my Rockshox recon. Nice fork 🦊

[@22Steez]

sorry but in stead of change the fork you can tune it to your likes..... and it is more than cheaper!

[@DarcyFletchh]

I get teased for riding a siskiu t7 Becuasse of how they are “ bad bikes” but I don’t see the problem with them. On tik tok and social media, everyone says they are bad and even gay and it kinda bugs me.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

I was shocked how well done the D7 was. A subscriber just sent me a video of the T7 in the box still and man that was a beefy looking bike. I feel like the photos on the site make it look dinky and cheap, but they're far from it

[@DarcyFletchh]

@@EvansMTBSaga ikr that’s what I tell people and they some how don’t believe me, but luckily none of my friends say that because I have the best bike in the group

[@BikeDrFrankenstein]

@@DarcyFletchh let those donkeys know that Polygon makes some of the "high-end" bike frames they spend extra money on "Marin" just on mark up prices and middle men 😳🤢🤐! Lol watch them take a 💩 in their mouths and look completely dumbfounded

[@DarcyFletchh]

@@BikeDrFrankenstein thanks mate what I tel people (witch they don’t believe) is that polygon isn’t meant to be perfect. These bikes are low/mid level dual suspensions and have great components for a bike of their price and are way higher value than the price.

[@BikeDrFrankenstein]

@@DarcyFletchh forget those naysayers! You, Evan, Cure Cycling, an I, along with so many others know Polygon is where it's at! Keep riding the eff out your Poly, let them hate, and dust them off with your riding skills

[@eugene44569]

You will hit 10k by the end of this month guaranteed.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Pretty crazy. Then I can do youtube stories

[@MTBAlex]

nice, bike looking good

[@bpisan]

Fork cutting noob move - cutting your $1100 fork to the very minimum length. Chances of the steerer tube to be long enough to sell to someone in a couple years drops dramatically. Always leave it a little extra long and add spacers to increase resale value in the future.

[@iriqouisplisken5640]

Just weld it back on

[@nrevo7]

Can't you just use brake hose that's already inside the frame and swap lever and caliper? They're both Shimano

[@EvansMTBSaga]

That's a really good point. I'm glad you told me about it cuz that didn't even cross my mind lol. Saved me a headache Thanks Nuno!

[@nrevo7]

@@EvansMTBSaga it also has the right lenght, and you do have to disassemble and bleed both brakes