Is a $4000, 15-Year-Old VW Touareg Better Than A Brand New $50K 2019 Volkswagen Atlas?

[@GeronimoJenkins]

ToughT is a pretty unique series, thanks for keeping it going! Old Touareg prices going to go through the roof

[@GeronimoJenkins]

@@WW-wf8tu it's a joke, a meme, not meant to be taken seriously

[@joeyscleaninglady2877]

hoping you do a jeep liberty (CRD variant) those have a bad wrap and are seen as being crappy off roaders

[@Xrex-li1yb]

When you think cause your bigger you should have more groundclear

[@chiil034]

Bought a V6 Touareg (2006) for $1500 (85k miles)... fixed it all up with a few visits to the junk yard, and it's running like a champ. Can't beat that.

[@brianmoore4778]

Pick a part do it yourself wrecking. Savior for European luxury 4x4 ownership.

[@toycarcollector]

I bought my 65K mile 2007 Touareg V8 in 2010 for just over a third of what it cost new. After 10 more years she is still in very nice condition. The paint is bullet proof. The interior still looks fresh. The carpet is so nice you can't even get real carpet anymore. And best of all you can buy a computer program and hook up your computer to the Touareg and it will tell you everything that goes wrong. Mine has never been to a service department I take care of it myself. The only downside is that if the engine or transmission goes your done. Major issues that can creep up on you include $2k brake jobs, 4 fuel pumps, center differential joint, huge exhaust system, air suspension issues, and electrical. These are not for the faint of heart. If you got skills it is a great vehicle.

[@CarWhiz22]

In 15 years time that Atlas will be in much worse shape than the Touareg is today.

[@krane15]

That's because the Touareg was a no-holds barred design. It came with all the VW group had to offer all the way up to its W-12 engine. Sadly, VW doesn't build them like that anymore.

[@tiko5876]

Krane Mk4>Everything that came after

[@stephanm.tjaden3887]

Watch the IIHS Crash test on the Atlas;............Looks pretty safe to me...

[@NiksS4]

Not really...

[@ryanfay1]

Blair Aquila in Europe

[@mastercreamer1398]

I just bought a 2006 Toureg R and it’s unbelievable how nice it is for that year. It’s a beast on the road.

[@Jsailor1210]

Picked up a 16 Touareg executive trim level this summer with the VR6. Absolutely love it! Best vehicle I have ever owned, tows my 21 foot center console with ease. Fully loaded with Fuel and trailer at 5100 pounds. No issues. The atlas can’t even sniff the capability of my Touareg. Sad they aren’t selling them anymore here.

[@yankeedoodle6293]

True. I bought a new 2016 Touareg TDI. Awesome vehicle and periodically get thumbs up from complete strangers. Why did you choose the vr6 over the TDI?

[@Jsailor1210]

@@yankeedoodle6293 I didn’t really want a diesel. Been down that road before, The cost of maintenance is what pushed me to the gas engine. the difference of cost for buying a tid vs gas in my area was around 8k for the same vehicle.

[@yankeedoodle6293]

@@Jsailor1210 the VR6 is an excellent choice as well. Enjoy it 👍

[@TheKacper2001]

I'd rather have the touareg because its higher quality

[@joeyscleaninglady2877]

old cars will break and no warranty. means what. I guess the choice is price vs price but this is just a straight comparison of the two if both were free or the same price

[@rcautofanatic5024]

Kacper B obviously

[@asdasd01]

@@joeyscleaninglady2877 bullshit

[@TheKacper2001]

@@GJenks15 Not really. Cayenne has different engines and lower quality cabin.

[@NiksS4]

not really

[@NorthernsoulBoy63]

Just purchased a 2005 tourareg 2.5tdi today. Thanks for the information. David from Scotland

[@danelliott1230]

I own an 07 FSI V8 Touareg (350hp). Bought used in 2015 for a pretty great price. It's a fantastic vehicle when it runs, however reliability is very poor. In 4 years of ownership on a fairly low mileage for its age Touareg, I've dropped thousands on repairs. Multiple Batteries, keyless entry module, transmission control module, stepper motor, driveshaft bearing, the list goes on. Still a few I going issues that I refuse to pay for including electrical gremlins. Parts are very expensive, I just about choked when I was quoted for pads and rotors at the dealer. If you're handy and can do the work yourself, you can save money but it's still quite expensive. Just be aware what you're getting into. Sure, you can get one for a steal, but be prepared to deal with constant headaches. Also, just traded it in on a 2020 tacoma off road. No regrets, but looking forward to reliability! I did test drive an Atlas, and it feels cheap compared to the Touareg.

[@crazycoffee]

I got a maxed out 06 V10 TDI Touareg recently. Full history Im the second owner roomy (good because Im 6'4) 140k miles. I love it so far

[@lewistatum90]

Pretty confused in Germany there still is the Touareg but never heard atlas before 😅

[@1985toyotacamry]

This is specifically built for North America market its made in Tennessee I believe

[@eliteultra9]

@@1985toyotacamry true, here in Mexico we have it too and it sold pretty well , made for North America only not Europe

[@xf1632]

Dirt Bike Rider gaaaaanz selten siehst du auch hier ein Atlas. Sind aber importiert und echt Exoten hier

[@isaacsdanny]

@@1985toyotacamry We also make them in Africa. They're made to compete with the likes of Toyota and Chevy here.

[@eddgrs9193]

It's pretty much a Skoda Kodiaq for the US market.

[@rodpetrie1088]

The old Touareg had outstanding build quality and frankly looks. I have owned three old shape Touaregs and I still have one now (2006). Sure it drives a bit like a bus but it works and it looks great and everything still works, 17 years old !! That's a quality built car.

[@nico.mascio]

I had a 2003 VW Touareg V10 and it was fantastic. Absolutely one of my favorite cars ever with a monstrous torque of 750 Nm already at low rmp, however it was not a fuel economy champion. It had a lot more options than yours but it was so expensive. In Italy it was worth something like 120000€ so 140000$ in 2003

[@raghavbhatnagar2329]

That can tow a 747

[@larstomasson9244]

@@raghavbhatnagar2329 Yes that is handy, like what Jack Lalane used to do.

[@williamparker7823]

I've been keeping up with the Tourareg videos semi-regularly to see one get properly used. I had a V8 one briefly and wanted to share some thoughts before people go off to craigslist. These are at the age and price where many are not cared for well. Yes, you can get one for $4000 or less but please get a pre-purchase inspection if you're planning on keeping it. If the intake actuators are broken, there is a company that makes aluminium ones so you don't have to buy the whole kit since VW doesn't sell just the arms. The thermostat is behind the timing belt. I had a problem where water collected in the spare wheel well where the air pump is located. The battery is under the driver's seat. The one in the video has a rear locker, good luck finding one with that option but the center locker is there. The leather is quite good at least and the handling is very good for a 5000 pound tank. I really liked mine but I couldn't justify spending the purchase price in maintenance to get it back to daily driver reliability.

[@markspence3750]

Best review ever. I have a 2006 V8 Touareg. A new alternator costs $500.

[@ebrima31]

Touareg is one of the finest car ever built. The only time you are going to really appreciate the power of this monster, it's when it snows. Men! I love the touareg 💘

[@tw9871]

I'll take the Touareg. I have always loved those. The first gen was the best. The Atlas is meh.

[@jarnold2000]

This was super fun to watch. I went from that exact Touareg to that exact Atlas. The T-Reg was hard to give up after so long. Great comparison. You got it spot on.

[@ProBenja5]

In my country we have both, the Atlas is US$39.000 and the Touareg is between US$86.000 and $94.000 so I wouldn’t consider the Atlas in the same league as there is such a huge price difference.

[@brimerz8631]

I have a 2014 Touareg TDI and I love it. It’s such an underrated car. Feels like a steal for all you get feature wise and its specs.

[@ericbraun4652]

How is the reliability? I'd LOVE that car but the repair bills make me hesitate.

[@andresparrow2971]

The Atlas is not a luxury suv. The Touareg was another example of "vw, a general consumer brand, made another car to compete with the luxury cars it already manufacturers." Id still take a Tourag over the Q7 or Cayenne...not Cayenne TurboS due to performance and not Q7 Exclusive for its interior...but the if not for its bad reliability it was something awesome.

[@bigdogpete43]

You can buy 12 of Touregs for $50K. Even if each one lasts you just 3 years, you will be on Social Security before you need another car.

[@caddy4350]

and you will have spare parts for days

[@williamparker7823]

Guess I won't be needing another car then since Social Security will be a legend in 30 years.

[@rjscott6116]

You will need spare parts for days... and a mechanic who loves you, while at the same time not needing any money, because if he makes you pay cash for repairs you'll be broke, though even if you're charged sexual favors, you'll be bloody, raw, and in tears.

[@bigdogpete43]

@@rjscott6116 Or I could just drive another one.

[@larstomasson9244]

you really cant get decent ones for $4000. decent costs $10-15K at this date.

[@CCYYYYYYYY]

Touareg still looks beautiful. My favourite SUV of all time.

[@AllAboutJane]

My mom had a 2012 TDI Toureg with all the options and when I drove that car through the snowy Idaho mountains, there was nothing that could replicate how powerful and safe I felt in that SUV. She sold it to VW for the same price she bought it as, but I begged her to pass it down to me. So sad that VW has traded the Toureg for the Atlas which is BUTT UGG

[@MikeMcclendon1377]

That's awesome, great comment & thanks

[@yankeedoodle6293]

I bought a Touareg TDI brand new in 2016 Love the car.. FYI you can still find them preowned on auto trader.

[@larstomasson9244]

Jane, go out and buy one. 2012 was the biggest selling year and 2012 are easy to find.

[@ericbraun4652]

I'd LOVE that Diesel except I understand they weren't reliable and they were very expensive to fix. Overengineered and expensive parts. Am I wrong?

[@orges.1]

@@ericbraun4652 in most cases petrol engines are less reliable as far as i know for almost every car plus fuel consumption is higher

[@shebamut]

the Touaregs price killed it from the very beginning. If it was 35-40k back then, they would have sold like hotcakes. Even today, if you can find a good used one with less than 20k miles, it will last you forever.

[@weirdinthewoods-ent]

its better to find one after 80k that way you can tell if all the manuacture kinks got worked out.

[@dailylife3975]

@@weirdinthewoods-ent I bought a 2005 v8 3 years ago with the air ride fully loaded except no rear locker but 112,000 miles and new timing belt a and its been awesome you can't beat what you get for the money I have 144,000 miles now

[@gonnahavemesomefun]

@@weirdinthewoods-ent I did this, bought a year 2011 one at 60k miles 7 years ago. She's on 114k miles now and I've spent money on bits and bobs but she's sweet as a nut now and I love her. Still feels modern, comforable and fits in well with even the new Touareg's on the road.

[@dzonikg]

I have only money for 15 year old cars so this comparison makes me happy :D My family has 6 cars (3 are mine) and all are like 15 years average and i am happy with them..they dont have touch screens but i also dont have any credit to pay

[@heikg]

You know, if you didn't buy 3 old cars maybe you could've saved for 1 more modern car.

[@akthethotboi9711]

Even the v6 toureag sound amazing

[@BobBob30966]

I had no idea the back window on the hatch of the Touareg opened like that. My wife still drives her 05 and she is going to be extremely shocked it opens like that.

[@Supcharged]

How does the car hold up?

[@AniketKumar-ye9hh]

I didn't know that too, now loading groceries is a bit better

[@cpear760]

That Toureg needs a detailing.

[@evilz33]

Two years ago me and my wife were looking for a new suv she test drove a brand new atlas she said it felt cheap and drove like a minivan. She ended up getting a slightly used second gen tdi touareg.

[@jerryp2433]

Is it still working?

[@evilz33]

JERRY P no problems Yet (knock on wood) 70k miles in. Most common problems have to do with dpf egr. Have had plenty of diesel trucks in the past personal and for work so have some experience with this stuff. I’ve already looked up delete kits and they’re fairly priced for the tdi.

[@jerryp2433]

Does it have to be a certified used one with the fix? I found some cheap ones on car gurus, but not sure if I should stick to the certified ones...

[@evilz33]

JERRY P nope. You don’t even take it to the stealership.

[@TurtleClashersRBLXPRO]

the Atlas didn't exists 2 years ago....

[@s.topper9918]

Wow! I'm going to look for all these hidden gems in my 2008 V8 touareg. Thank you!!!!

[@larstomasson9244]

2008 is the best year for the V* congrats.

[@Epik-hm8ws]

Rear seat folding in the touareg was made like this to give the car a tight underbody. No hanging belly sliding on the rocks

[@larstomasson9244]

That sounds like the biggest load BS I ever heard.

[@Epik-hm8ws]

@Lars Tomasson Really? The Touran, Golf, Passats of the mid 2000s had flat folding seats too. Why not put them in the Touareg? Because the seat bottom would be lower and then the Touareg wouldn‘t have the 4 inches more ground clearance.

[@CandleGuyFX]

How can the Atlas replace the Touareg when the Touareg still exist in 2019?

[@dskains]

CandleGuyFX He said it doesn’t exist in the USA. they dropped it here. They recently started selling the TDI Touaregs they they bought back a few years ago.

[@bjcliving386]

@S Ra and Australia thankfully :)

[@ylcsl4378]

@S Ra and Russia

[@ylcsl4378]

Literally everything except America :D

[@WDavid-bm9jd]

Most people just like touareg with atlas's price!! if touareg come to US with EU price, give the reason why don't buy bmw or mercedes...

[@JamesRussoMillas]

The og Tuareg competed with a Range Rover/X5. The Atlas competes with non-luxury brands now.

[@KP-nj1oo]

I'll bet Touareg would win 0-60 test if you wouldn't make it slower by installing larger diameter A/T tires

[@theBnoJ]

Wouldn't be any good off road either

[@TheSovietHotDog]

Would do better 0-60 if he held the brakes, reved it up a bit and started from a higher rpm. How you just gunna start from idle and floor it?

[@ogalief]

They also put regular gas in it (says premium required on the gas cap). That would make the engine adjust the timing for less power and efficiency

[@RingerRacing]

@@TheSovietHotDog ya it was a ROOKIE move by the driver, sorry bro, next time brake torque it, read how car and driver test their cars and get schooled for the better of mankind

[@lotsad1234]

Thats right, you should measure with the stock tires, and compare. Also run the correct fuel!

[@richardedwardpay]

That's a lot of hail damage on the hood.

[@jedironin380]

It was a $4000 car. You could spend $1000 with PDR and still come out ahead! :)

[@mahsiege]

Great videos! FYI - An old Touareg feature you keep missing is that IT DOES have a tow hook. That eye shaped screw thing to the right of the spare tire can be screwed into 4 different points on the vehicle (two on the front and two on the back) as needed to tow you out of a jam. There's a smaller metal piece beside it that "unlocks" the panels to access the tow hook points. Learned that from tow truck driver last winter after owning mine for almost 10 years!

[@marcuscolbert5996]

Couple of things about the T1 Touareg. You dont vae to hold the key until it starts. just turn it and let go and it will start . There is a hidden storage box under the passenger seat in the front and you forgot to show the part of the center console box that holds up beverage bottles along with being an arm rest lol and the Radios DO have a auxillary inpur option . theres a vacant spot in the back of the head unit where the cable connects. and now theres a aftermarket Bluetooth auxillary and sandisc connection upgrade to he 2004s. (2005 and up had analog amps where they can just swap out to an android head unit .....2004 had digital making the upgrade difficult

[@bmwloco]

Tourareg = Quality. Atlas = bargain bin hauler

[@vwsaiphone]

Dean Klein the atlas isn’t bad but it’s not as great it’s sad

[@AS-hu2ek]

Stop.

[@ronsmith7880]

Thanks again TFL for bringing out the car again...when can we see more of it.. The Toureg is a favorite for me...I'd buy it from Roman if I had $4600.

[@dzelpwr]

I think you'd have to wrestle it away from Tommy. He seems to like it a lot :P

[@luisg7109]

From VW Touareg was something like the “Concorde” Atlas is just a fat Boeing

[@dcolavecchio]

When folding the Touareg back seats lift the front of the bottom cushion only, not the back, you are fighting the hinge. I have a similar system in my Ford Escape, but instead of a hinge there is just a bent wire that acts as a hinge. And no place to store the headrests, which is why my father lost one when he owned it.

[@DPaulk87]

Came to the comments to say this. It's the same design as the 4th generation Golf/Jetta platform (just a little bit better hardware). Grab the leather handle and pull it (kind of snatch it actually) straight up, then the rear of the seat bottom will slide forward allowing it to clear the seat back.

[@csjames69]

Touareg was made in Germany, Atlas made in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Former is a luxury vehicle, the latter an average SUV.

[@NewJerseyPhiladelphiaDelaware]

Crazy how a cars location of manufacture is relevant to the overall build quality of a vehicle.

[@christopherluce8779]

Touareg has always been made in Bratislava, Slovakia- not Germany.

[@alless22]

@@NewJerseyPhiladelphiaDelaware the build quality is still set by manufacturer and not by location. American standarts are different yet atlas and touareg are not for same customers. Touareg is a high class SUV and in eu that thing costs double the Atlas does.

[@JMacGyver1]

VW should bring over the new Touareg as a top of the line model, even if it’s priced more similarly to the Q7 or Cayenne. It’s just so far better than the soccer mom Atlas. As a 2014 Touareg TDI owner, when I eventually need to get rid of the Touareg, I’d never even consider the Atlas in its current form.

[@ryanl1782]

The problem is, no one will buy it like no one bought the last one. Not many people are prepared to pay a premium for a VW.

[@JMacGyver1]

Ryan L A lot has changed in just the last few years, with consumers paying $50k+ for SUV’s with lesser quality. I think VW was simply ahead of their time with the Touareg here in the US.

[@ryanl1782]

@@JMacGyver1 VW just can't command top dollar in the US. Every time they try to charge more than their value branded vehicles, they fail. Other brands could do this...just not VW. People still look at VW as the company that made a cheap Beetle.

[@unintentionallyfire]

Even if it doesn’t sell well, they should bring it in as a halo model.

[@ryanl1782]

@@unintentionallyfire VW is bringing over the Arteon and dealers are upset because they are already having to discount the shit out of them to move them off the lots. Not many people will pay premium money for a VW.

[@typxxilps]

Regarding german overengineering: there is a manual that explains in pictures how to turn over that cussion And then you have a real SUV in use, maximum usability or space that is only possible with that moving hinge. Would you love to hit the ceiling with your head every few seconds due to a higher cussion position to get an higher positioned hinge that is needed to get the cussion vertical to get a plane + deep trunk? The Touareg is a real Porsche era piece of engineering developed under Piech era, a grandson of the old Ferdinand Porsche based on his thoughts about a modular system of sharing platforms across the VW brands from Porsche over Audi to VW. In the VW all these options Porsche driver had to pay for were included. Who looked for quality and not the fame of a brand could get everything for cheap from VW ... and so the volume of the complete production reached a volume that offered maximum of profit - just by scale they otherwise could not make. Remember: in europe a Touareg was an alien regarding its size. Unuseable in italians small streets, uncomfortable in european parking lots .. but too small for american buyers. For that time they made a damn good job cause you look at it as 15 year old piece but its early development stages and design sketches had started in the last century just 20 years ago. Pretty long way and a car still good in shape even its higher percentage of electronic & mechatronic components.

[@TheOneFu33]

You should write a book. Lmao

[@typxxilps]

@@TheOneFu33 no, we build cars and sell them. Like our grandpas engineered these overengineered Tiger Tanks that knocked the cheaply built Shermans out that the Sherman crews did not love. They preferred and hoped for a tank like the tiger or Panther ... Let's wait and see how the next generations will outperform the competition...

[@FearsomeWarrior]

Pulling a small camper through the Rockies during snowstorms to get the the fresh pow is what this does for me. Touareg can easily pull out a full size truck from a ditch in snow. The looks on their faces when I hop out with a toe-strap is priceless.

[@Tripp55]

This was a great idea for a video. I love driving Touareg's. They feel so solid and luxurious.

[@cryptoplumplori9466]

I am german and I'm shocked to see what happened to volkswagen. they've cut costs and standardized their engineering style over nearly all models wich seems pretty cheap. however I slightly prefer the plain design to that old chrome details, I'm really shocked about the decline of functionality, offroad capability and mataerial quality... hope they will get back there one day

[@YewtBoot]

Genau.

[@JonasOnAutos]

2000s Volkswagen was peak volkswagen

[@houseofdiesel]

Nothing can touch a V10 TDi Touareg.

[@larstomasson9244]

....for maintenance costs?

[@TITAN59907]

I had the old Touareg v6 tdi full options for a few years... it was and it is awesome in offroad, plus it has the compressor pump capability. My dad has the new one, front camera - good for offroad, diesel 286hp 6.1 (realistic 6.2 if you know how to accelerate it correctly) sec 0-62 mph so... for offroad the old one, for everything else the new one is better! P.s. in the old one the aux is audio in. Back then that was excelent to connect a mp3 player to the car.

[@aardwolfweb]

The Atlas sounds like my wife's 4 cylinder 2006 CRV. Also, every time I watch one of these Touareg videos I decide I want one. Then I'm reminded of the mileage vs my 2003 TDI and nope out.

[@pickamove]

The new VW designed by accountants, the old by true engineers. :)

[@cenationgreatestFan]

Used Touareg's value shot up now 😂😂

[@AS-hu2ek]

Not in the United States...

[@leonbuksh6287]

Most of the features on the old touareg are paid for extras so not a good test for interior equipment.

[@itzanopinion]

without even thinking, I'm taking the 04' Touareg....V8, Air Ride Suspension....friend had an 04' back in the day and it was pretty sweet...

[@dec-vt100]

to lift the bottom of the back seat without struggling, just pull the front of the seat up first, that releases it and then you can pull it from the back and fold it down! (it's the same on my old mk4 golf)

[@neilrensen8950]

Just got a 2006 W12 Touareg...fixed the 0-60 times... (5.4 seconds!)

[@jiminawake5926]

Amazing. How is it so far ? I've got an 04 V8 recently. Love it

[@asdasd01]

This era unfortunatelly was the last that cars were practical, reliable, estetic yet with electric comfort easy to maintain and at a reasonable price. Today is just expensive tablets and plastic

[@UltraFence]

I have a 2010 TDi made for US market, (Gen 1) with air suspension and start button. But yesterday I bought a 2011 TDi built for Mexican market, no EPA crap (gen 2) no Diesel emission fluid or diesel particulate filter, but no push button start and no air suspension. I expect 10% better fuel economy on the Gen 2 and like the looks, but the Mexican Market version is very different to my one year older Gen 1. On Gen 1 we have electric lift gate, ESP to just touch door handle with key on your person, and a real dipstick, and a more diverse armrest. On the Gen 2 we have electronically monitored oil level (no dipstick) and bigger/better infotainment with bluetooth audio and phone. Gen 1 did phone, but not music streaming. No trailer hitch on Gen 2, but actual brake attenuation on Gen 1. Better backup camera and more external lidar sensors on Gen 2, and an AMAZING sky roof with remote curtain. Headrests got too complicated on Gen 2 trying to move in multiple directions and require a KZbin lesson in adjustment, not very cool. All in all, I gotta say the Gen 1 quality was a "spare nothing approach" while Gen 2 (maybe because it was destined for Mexico?) has many cost cutting features. Both drive great Gen 1 has a 6 speed auto trans with a real dedicated low gear with locking diffs from the factory in addition to 4.5 inches elevator mode and adjustable ride. Gen 2 has 8 speed trans with paddle shifters on the steering wheel if you want to race, and has a highway and off road setting. Seriously think Gen 1 would rule in off-road comparison. But I have my 2018 Hilux TDi 4x4 quad cab for off-roading. I use my Tregs as a grand touring vehicles with 1,000km/600 mile ranges, with the ability to suprise folks as what they can do off-road. Where Gen 1 might do as well as a 100 series LC and better than a Range Rover for sure, Gen 2 is probably just on par with them.

[@michieljames737]

You have to pull the tab *UP* not to the front!!! *RTFM* The seats fold up super easy!!!

[@chloeleedow7250]

Trims on all 2004 era vw was gorgeous, it did need repair if not well maintained and even so some things would stop need gluing and stuff lots of fabric stuff door card fabric, roof liner at times and some of the soft dashes would disintegrate if they hadn't had a cover on them all get really sticky where the leathery vinyl stuff covering the foam had been destroyed by UV but all in all just soft touch everywhere I had a mark 4 golf and now have a 2020 Golf R and my mark 4 golf probably had a higher quality interior even back then I would say it literally had almost no scratchy plastic at all if any it was built like a tank it had the hardest bumper, glass headlight housings and the crash bar that was like half the height of the bumper nearly but honestly that bumper was made of something that just it didn't break it didn't crack it just bent if anything wow even talking about it I just want to look for a nice two door GTI fourth gen to put away so much love for old Volkswagens and the engines were pretty Indestructible and very easy to work on from those generations now in my 2020 golf I wouldn't know the first thing I was doing apart from coding some of the features on cars network and modules and very basic maintenance I guess like there is so much that can go wrong in those things and mine has a lot of the same components as that big modern Beast you are driving infotainment speakers headlights pretty sure that atlas or whatever it is is based on the mqb platform same as the Gulf the Passat the Audi rs3 A3 S3 so many cars so many common components so much can go wrong 😂 I see why you have so much love for that old Beast and I feel like although it's a petrol hungry lump of a thing it proves my point that even it was built like a tank by comparison to that much bigger car

[@syedmusahussain9407]

Bro, the Touareg does have the Auxiliary port and its in the storage area under your arm rest area in the center, 17:20.

[@kowalskidiazdegeras9190]

Some of the interior of the old Touareg looks from the Phaeton, specially the steering wheel!

[@SteveBoyer10]

I'd love to see a 2017 Touareg thrown into the review!

[@Roverrtym]

I bought t1 Touareg 5 cyl dieasel to drive when i go to live in europe few months for the year , and it has the push start button, asf headlights, leather dashboard, but my steering wheel isn't electric or the seat belt adjusters, and no memory setting on the passenger seat. ! Here in usa they have some cool options that were only available for the us market ! But no r5 or v6 diesel , which makes the Touareg even better. The Inline 5 diesel is reliable and its got such a good mpg , it blows the v8 out of the water.

[@stevesherwood1791]

I picked up a 2016 Touareg TDI in March of this year. Love it. But I'd like to see a similar comparison with the Treg you're sporting.

[@larstomasson9244]

The third gen Touareg is much better than the first gen, but it unfortunately lost the low range transfer case here in the US.

[@stevesherwood1791]

@@larstomasson9244 true. But first gear is pretty low and while it's not a direct replacement for LRTC it helps.

[@takayama1638]

Head room and ease of getting into the dagnabbed things. That’s what I want. And ground clearance. I hate dragging my hind end on the pavement feeling.

[@chassdesk]

Great video Tommy make me miss my old Vw Touareg and want another and not want an Atlas.

[@harissab16]

Sorry to say, but my 2003 Touareg V8 has keyless entry and push button start, original, so the Atlas does not earn a point there.... and it is a chrome button with an ambient red light around it...

[@ronaldjordan690]

Like your vids! But I don't think that 0-60 was fair with those offroad tires on the touareg, I would've changed back to original for that test. Good videos keep it up

[@nirfz]

One question: why do you rate keyless start as a plus? It makes steeling cars way easier. There are "extender boxes" which are able to extend the key signal, so that one "bad" guy with one box is near to you and your key while the other is next to the car, and this way the car thinks the key is nearby and opens and starts. They also sneak around houses and if the keys are near enough to a window, they can start the car and drive off. (Help against it: wrapping the key in aluminium foil, but then you always have to unwrap it to use it yourself, or buy expensive etuis) -folding the seats: but with the atlas, you don't have the seat cushions as a barrier for the luggage. (You also don't have that in the newer Touaregs and other cars sadly, safetywise that was a good thing)

[@lawison]

Does 0-60 test with road tires on one vehicle and offroad tyres on another...seems fair

[@alanj7306]

The 2004 definitely looks great and was actually built with quality in mind.

[@davidmommerency4589]

I will buy your Touareg. I’ve been looking for one with fcr locking differentials and airbag suspension. Can’t find one.

[@larstomasson9244]

The locking rear is pretty rare. I am not sure it is really needed since the electronics do a pretty good job of braking the wheel off the ground which you will have a lot of with the air suspension.

[@PLATINUM2U]

OLD is GOLD😇

[@stephenjones6902]

I love the V8 great video thanks

[@bartismoellis1052]

I believe there was a adapter that plugged into the cd changer port for blue tooth most likely not available anymore.

[@jhorvat8478]

when you fold rear seats tray to: 1. pull leash forward to driver seat, 2. and just lift back seat to up.. it is so simpl, you dont need any stranght to fold seats at all

[@backseatdriver8902]

The Touareg was a Luxury SUV that shared parts with Audi and Porsche. American's did not want to spend big $$$ on VW's, they never understood the value of a Phaeton or Touareg. The Atlas was made for America (not sold outside of North America) and it is supersized and dumbed-down for us:) If you want a nice SUV, buy an Audi.

[@mr.c3939]

Actually, it is sold in the middle east and in China also. But it follows the T names and is called the Taramount or something. It's called Atlas cause Americans couldn't pronounce Touareg. Lol

[@backseatdriver8902]

@@mr.c3939 Those are much different. They have a turbo VR6!

[@ristekostadinov2820]

The comparation that you are trying to make is the same as 2004-2006 Phaeton and a 2019 Passat.

[@v12mercedes-benz72]

If the new Passat has bigger size than old Phaeton, then they can do comparation between those two.

[@jwester7009]

What is this big Atlas tractor for if it doesn't even have offroad features?

[@ButterBeann]

J Wester it does

[@jwester7009]

@@ButterBeann You're right. What meant was limited offroad features compared to a real offroad car like a Range Rover

[@ButterBeann]

Oh I see. I just bought one two days ago. I love it!

[@jwester7009]

@@ButterBeann Did you buy the Atlas or Range Rover? Congratulations btw

[@ButterBeann]

The Atlas Se R-Line 2019 :)

[@Tcflohr]

One was designed for the euro market, the other for the American market

[@vr6gls]

Tim Flohr When I hear a manufacturer utter the words, “Designed for the American market”. I already know it’s going to look and drive like crap. 💩

[@andyfleming4441]

You can reprogram the tailgate (and the car) to not auto-lock with a VAG-COM. Definitely worth the effort lol

[@JRCarReviews]

I am sorry but Atlas is not “new” Touareg! New Touareg is available only in Europe.

[@jomuller2212]

That's true. Sadly.

[@Phil-rs5wl]

I dont know if the new one will do it but the 04 should if you hold the unlock button on the key the windows will roll down and hold the lock and it will roll them up

[@aassos997]

The v10tdi version of the touareg has start stop button and does 0-60 in just 6.2 secs i own a v10 touareg

[@PTRPerformance]

V6 tdi have it also 😉

[@aassos997]

@@PTRPerformance in the v10tdi is standard in the v6 is optional

[@PTRPerformance]

@@aassos997 yes but it is available

[@gianlucaa.4480]

Which kind of tires has the Old Touareg? BF All Terrain, measure? Thx

[@krane15]

Well to be fair, the Touareg was VW introduction into the luxury SUV segment, while the Atlas is its return to traditional VW basic products. The electronics will always lose on the older car since that's the first things to become obsolete. Like Bluetooth and USB ports and cell phone charging/compatibility. None of which existed in cars15 years ago. I must mention that the Atlas uses the older USB ports which are going out of style even now. How long will those be effective for newer electronics over the next 15 years? This comparison was interesting in that it shows how well the mechanics and electronic held up over the years. Few people will keep their original vehicle for 15 years, but its good to see how well things can stay up-to-date.

[@mjdailamy4550]

Did anyone understand the reset button story at 13:15 ? Reset smell? What is that?

[@dugfriendly]

What happened to the scoreboard?

[@willb3018]

Touareg. No comparison.

[@rkan2]

Well, it is in Porsche price point

[@DuelistWave]

in 2023 you wont find a decent 2009 TDI for less than 10k with okay miles

[@kevinkenny9355]

I would really like to see a comparison between a basic Touareg vs a fully loaded Atlas

[@mmacphersonn]

When your 5k toureg has the same headlight clusters as a 1 million dollar Bugatti lol

[@dubber2001]

Faiiryliigxts when there's a problem with them it feels as expensive as one too. Haha.

[@biocyd3]

@The Fast Lane Car To fold the rear seats, you pull the pull cord and lift the front of the base.... Its been like that since the old MK2..

[@Jaytrenkle]

About to trade in a 2012 RR sport. Would love one of these off brand Porshe's in a diesel.

[@whoseyourchef2160]

Pickup a diesel gate era Touareg for a bargain...

[@jeffm2636]

Well said, I am a 2012 Touareg TDI Executive model owner. Found one that hit a dealer lot after it sat in a warehouse for over 16 months. VW dealer acquired it, updated the diesel certification and I found it with 60k miles and certified pre-owned for $22k.

[@Bdillony]

Got mine for $17k with 42,000 miles. Best decision ever.

[@VWRalf]

Rear seat bottom: pull the strap first and then pull the back up. Don't try to do both at the same time.

[@hollistarnes5578]

I drive a 2013 Touareg TDI Lux. I love it. Drove a 2019 Atlas as a loaner car for 2 months when having warranty work done. I hated it! No where near as nice as my Touareg.

[@brimerz8631]

I love my TDI too. Really feels like a luxury car

[@jaysworld5378]

Is the Toureg a good competitor to the same generation/year Toyota Land Cruiser?