Touareg vs. Grand Cherokee Off-Road: Which OLD SUV Can Play Better In The Dirt?

[@TFLoffroad]

This exact Jeep is up for auction right now. Check it out HERE! tflbids.com/vehicles/2000-jeep-grand-cherokee-limited-4x4/

[@rerod650]

This Jeep would fit in nicely in the TFL fleet! Especially for some v8 comparison testing with the 392! Just saying

[@ChannelZeroOne]

4000 seems like a legit price. I see a decent amount of work needed in the near future. If this relist let know. Seems like a good start build up on.

[@rigom.2853]

Finally an old grand cherokee is featured on this channel 🙄

[@bahamashadow2535]

Thank you… WK …5.7 With QD2 next 🙏🏽 please

[@elviszamoraalvarez9563]

🤦‍♂️no sabes como corren

[@tonyfourpaws4511]

Not just any old Jeep.. a WJ!!!!!!

[@edzimdahl1158]

That not old, only middle aged, step back to an even better model,,, the zj

[@australiantruckspotting8883]

The WJ was the most fun 4x4 I’ve owned, the sound and the low down torque of the 4.7 V8 is intoxicating.

[@JustinD93]

I completely agree I owned one a few years back here in the UK. Awesome V8 roar!!!

[@lionsgarage]

maybe you had an exhaust leak.

[@mzwandilenzimande4621]

YES PLEASE!!! More WJ videos Please Please Please Please.

[@314jeepsnmopars3]

I'm personally a ZJ guy but that WJ proved what the Grand Cherokees can do, especially for the money.

[@frankzee111]

I have a wj v8 but don't like the fact I cannot mod it. Going to a zj 5.2 and cam, headers, and aluminum heads!

[@tylerdubois9020]

@@frankzee111 What do you mean you cannot mod it? Engine mods or what? You should check out MartinBuilt, he has done a large amount of mods on his WJ 4.7l (non-HO).

[@frankzee111]

@@tylerdubois9020I'll check it out but I just can't see how you going to get 400 horsepower out of a 4.7 without using a SC

[@tylerdubois9020]

@@frankzee111 Oh yeah if your trying to get over 400hp thats not happening without forking a lot of money up. The 4.7l is actually a really good engine as long as its maintained. Mines got 213k on original 4.7l HO, and the power is nice offroading.

[@charliedee9276]

With a few tweaks my 04 WJ has surprised many. A small (3") lift, 32" tires and the factory Vari Lok in the rear with a TruTrac in front. 4.7ho keeps it running with the modern stuff speed wise. A WJ with zero issues...that really IS mind boggling.

[@lukekaspar1313]

I've owned both a 2003 GC limited V8, 2001 GC limited 4.0 i6, and 2009 VW Touareg 3.6 v6. All are very nice. The V8 GC has more power but not necessarily better off road than the 4.0. better than the Touareg off road but the VW is nicer for daily driving and more luxurious. Really depends on what you like. I can tell you the jeep is way cheaper to maintain.

[@bradpittiful7288]

the wj is my fave grand cherokee...great video!

[@phild9813]

WJ is a great mix of off road and luxury. Actually has solid axles too.

[@zachsteele6964]

@@phild9813 that's actually so awesome

[@willb3018]

Had a 2000 that I bought new. Loved it. Never off road, but it sure made driving in deep snow a breeze. Lot of capability that I never used.

[@alpha2gproject783]

I have to say that the WJ was by far my favorite Jeep. I had an 03 with the HO 4.7 and Quadradrive and it was as close to having lockers as one could get. The only downside is the 4.7. It had plenty of power, but the engines are really fragile...upper ring lands and timing chains failing are really common. Death wobble isn't nearly as bad as other Jeeps but still happens. I used a case of death wobble as a reason to put a 3 inch lift on mine which required all suspension parts to be replaced.

[@rockymountboy]

That's what I have! And did! lol

[@chadingram6390]

I hear something new all the time with these engines, add rocker lash adjusters failing, valve seals going bad, timing chain tensioners, overheating issues with weak head gaskets and warping aluminum heads. Please tell me more about the ring landing issue i'd rather know now

[@xmonger]

Don't overheat it and change the oil every 3-5k. It will run forever. Not a fragile motor at all.

[@tonyzito4628]

Almost 500,000 mi still going strong

[@alpha2gproject783]

@@chadingram6390 If you compare the 4.7 SOHC from Chrysler to a very similar 4.6 SOHC from Ford you'll notice that the ring lands are extremely close to the top of the piston. Chrysler/Jeep did this as a means to reduce friction but inadvertently made the piston/ring land weaker. I had the exact issue happen with my '03 4.7 HO. I bought it with only 55,000 miles on it and at about 97,000 the ring let go. I only use Castrol full synthetic and change my oil on every vehicle at 5,000 mile intervals which is typically way under what the OEM suggests. The truck was serviced at a local Jeep dealer every day of its life which is why I bought it because the maintenance was spot on. If you check out many forums you'll see hundreds...if not thousands of threads reporting the same issues. I replaced the engine with a remanufactured engine and that engine let go at 135,000 because the timing guides failed. Also, lets not forget the fact that the WJ for the first 2 years has issues with chewing threw rotors because of the terrible caliper design (I replaced my rotors 3 times within a year and I'm an very easy going driver...I can't afford to have expensive things break all the time).

[@cybertrophic]

Had a 4.7 Limited. Made me smile and had the comfiest seats I’ve ever sat in. Not great on-road compared to the Range Rover it replaced, but never felt it would get stuck anywhere. I’d have another tomorrow.

[@jerrodcorey25]

Quadratrac II is full time four wheel drive with a 52/48 % front to back power split. 2005 and up. 1999 - 2004 uses a Gerator with oil pump to put fluid under pressure to clutch packs to make sure both front and rear axles spin at the same speed. It also uses individual brake locking to send power from the wheels that slip to the wheels that grip.

[@dentondunn4346]

My 99 4.0 GC has the Quadra Trac system and I haven't even tried it off-road yet. Afraid I'll hate it and disown it lol

[@CigarBoss]

The VW is awesome but if something breaks it's gonna COST you big!💸

[@mechsupernova]

I got my red 99 for $800 no rust, had to rebuild the transfer case and replace a rear axel bearing and that is all, been driving it everywhere.

[@ascendantrobin3230]

oh man ive been waiting for this comparison!!! Love me a grand cherokee WJ !!!😎🇺🇸

[@ConWolfDoubleO7]

These Tough T videos are actually what got me started searching for my own treg. Its a hard damn car to find for a good price these days but I got one and I have to say, its absolutely killed the trails. I took a much harder trail than what TFL do with a group and the treg was the only one that walked away with no damage.

[@niquemarshall]

i bought my 2008 in december 2020 for $3800 with 168k miles. they’re out there

[@davidbryanwoodworksandmore]

my new jeep wj 2001 was amazing off-road. stock is amazing. so comfortable also. sure miss that thing.

[@rzu7120]

The transmission in my 2014 Jeep went out at 21,000 miles. This one has 200,000 more miles on it.

[@Turshin]

Different transmission. I had a WJ just like this one. Other than low oil pressure in the winter🤷🏾‍♂️, the thing definitely ran. They have little stupid stuff that goes wrong with them like the turn signal modules, broken blend doors, and howling rear ends.

[@douglasbeary7890]

Don't give the 545rle/45rle trans too much credit they aren't great neither is 42rle, but then again nobody takes proper care of their transmissions in any vehicle.... (I know there are a hand full that do, im not one of them🙄)

[@darrenbishop4327]

My all original 2000 wj has 230,000 and it has the 4.7 and Quadra trac 2 and it is a beast. I have street tires, no lift and no mods and my family and I just went off-roading about a week ago in the blue ridge mountains in some crazy stuff with confidence.

[@lowellstokes5328]

My Daily driver is a 98 zj 4.0 I6 with 213,000 miles. Still runs great! The newer ones don’t seem to have the same reliability, or I’d buy one; instead, I’ll probably replace the engine with a stroker.

[@khaos2nd]

It’s nice to see a WJ out and about! I have a 4wd WJ with the infamous 4.0l and I think it’s a pretty underrated jeep even though it doesn’t have a traditional boxy design

[@Andywinnipeg]

I love this Jeeps, I had myself a 2004 V8, but it was constantly broken. Sold it after 2 year's.

[@rondail5675]

I would take the Jeep!

[@Welcometofacsistube]

All day everyday

[@ItzzTesta]

Seeing how this video is an ad for his jeep on their auction site, that makes sense.

[@TheHofnerPlayer]

I’ve had both. The VW is the better all rounder

[@thebadbug7026]

Seems like a pretty cool guy to come all the way out there and have some fun with you guys!

[@AJourneyOfYourSoul]

All these years of Jeeps, TJ/XJ/WJ etc.... are all awesome. Especially with the 4.0 I6. Lift, tires, locker in the rear and you are good to go. I still have my Rubicon TJ, 4.0 I6 with manual and it still is a ton of fun.

[@dirtsailoroff-road5580]

thanks for the off road content TFL, you guys always brighten my day!

[@trailrunnah8886]

I love the solid-axle Grand Cherokees, I had a ZJ for 12 years, it never left me stranded once. As far as that WJ going 99 percent of where a TRD Pro 4Runner will go, nope, other way around. Even mildly modded WJ like this one will crush a 4Runner once the trail gets technical. I would have liked to see his buddy's 4Runner try to make it up the hill, something tells me he tried and struggled and didn't want it on video, LOL. And not talking smack about the 4Runner, my daily driver is one very similar. But I know enough to know that the Jeep is superior off-road.

[@josiaevans]

Amen!

[@cleancar8553]

Agreed

[@BillLaBrie]

I had a ZJ and used to do trail runs with guys in Toyotas, Chevys, Fords. Once, I heard something snap under the ZJ going through a tough section. Made it over anyway. Did the rest of the run, occasionally finding it more difficult than I had remembered from previous times. The other guys were struggling, but far more than I ever did. At the end I took a closer look underneath the ZJ and realized I’d broken the front driveshaft.

[@trailrunnah8886]

@@BillLaBrie haha too funny, that's awesome! They're great vehicles, very underrated.

[@jamesdewer]

Yeah my 01, 4.7 no lift and 31s. I can take it down billy goat trails.

[@blackpearl0285]

I have a 2000 wj limited same color and motor except mine has the selec trac. It's a beast off road that's for sure.

[@andrescarrillo_fitness]

The 4.7 is a Phenomenal engine, if you take care of it. If you half ass the care on it It will crap out on you. Keep up on the maintenance and it’ll easily get you to 300k+

[@bugsnstuff5643]

My wife and I have 2 WJs with over 270,000mi each and have been very reliable. Midwest rust is slowly killing them. Mine sees alot of off road and both are set up similarly to the one in this video.

[@andreipretorius92]

Awesome video. I loved the wj. Had one and it was one of the best jeeps I have owned. Comfortable for long journeys, nice V8 sound and great off road. Prefer it to the xj but prefer the xjs shape. Really enjoyed this video

[@jdsrcs8061]

Love the WJ!!! I scored mine in 2010 from the original owner. His wife wanted the new body style at that time. It was their town behind the RV rig and Sunday driver. It only had 20k miles on it. It has been awesome since them. The radiator took a dump 2 months ago, waiting for the new one to show up.

[@KTMcaptain]

Had a WJ... awesome car. WK was a huge step back in interior quality.

[@trentmoseley]

To me the WK is a huge step back in every way. Absolutely love the WJs

[@KTMcaptain]

@@trentmoseley except the 4wd system. The Quadra drive II system in the WK was very fast and strong and nearly as capable as a fully locked driveline. WJ Quadra drive worked well enough but was slower and weaker. Better to just get QT and throw a locker in the rear like this guy did. That and the hemi option. Haha

[@trentmoseley]

@@KTMcaptain but on the WEST of your front drive shaft fails you're screwed. You have to have it in there. On the WJs you can just take it out and drive without until you can fix it

[@KTMcaptain]

@@trentmoseley my front driveshaft failed on my WJ... I drove with it for 50 miles making horrible noises and vibrations to get out of the area and to the dealership. Lol.

[@trentmoseley]

@@KTMcaptain west was supposed to be WKs lol. Yeh. I had a buddy of mine his front driveshaft came completely out of the front knuckle. Tore up the shifter cable. He had to trailer it

[@joeymccullough2716]

Sweet WJ-set up just right for all around performance. You’re selling it? WHY?

[@Turshin]

On to the next project

[@wbball15]

Love my 2004 WJ with the 4.0 L6. Still stock everywhere. 270k miles. Plans for Iron Rock Offroad Long Arm lift kit and ARB lockers F/R with 5.38 gears eventually. Have Rusty's shock and spring lift kit ready to install end of the month.

[@wdubduece8913]

I have their 3inch benchmark kit and I'm really happy with it.

[@BigMateo24]

@@wdubduece8913 Thats what i started with too, but theres not much of it left. Just the track bar and rear end links. Its on its second lift now. Changed the springs for taller Claytons and put Core adjustable arms on all corners and a fabricated rear a-arm. Better than the stock arm and ball joint spacer I had on it before.

[@jacobbenns6090]

Dang bro, 5.38s are SUPER LOW, im running 4.10s on my 99 Ram, and it makes my first gear a granny gear, I couldn't imagine having to use 5.38s on road, but I bet they're nice off road

[@wbball15]

@@jacobbenns6090 Gear ratio will change when it's no longer the daily driver.

[@chadingram6390]

I chose the Rough Country 4 link over the IRO 3 link and i'm glad i did. I had a bolt on 1 of the upper arms come out and if it had been a 3 link it could have ended badly, instead i popped a new bolt in and it's been good ever since

[@haldoglife]

Had a ZJ with lift and 33” mud terrains and always enjoyed surprising the traditional off-roaders with it’s ability to climb.

[@danglez7022]

ZJs are beasts

[@blueryxfalls7949]

That touareg has seen more trails combined than your defender lol

[@mynameismontymontana]

I really hope the Touareg ends up on TFLBids...I’ll happily bid on that bad boy.

[@XHobbiesPrime]

That Touareg actually really impressed me.

[@Hasithism]

It's your lucky day

[@andrymashka1757]

You can buy mine. Lol

[@robertgolden1080]

I just started my WJ build. 3’’ lift kit, 16x8’’ steel rims 265/75/16 milestar Patagonia tires quick disconnect front sway bar link. It’s got the Quadra Trac 2 transfer case. Looking forward to hitting some trails with it. Great video.

[@benbirch2393]

I'm a brit living in very rural France, and I own a mint 40k wj overland 2.7crd with quadradrive. Fitted with Rubicon wheels, 245/70 a/t let down to 18psi and an OME lift, it has gone up and down every gnarly disused track and field I have got lost down and cruises like a luxury car at 80mph on the motorway full of fishing, camping and hunting gear. Off road bargain of the century and i think values are only going to go up

[@Kanakid]

I have owned two JKs. I now own a WJ 4.7HO. It is a very good Jeep. I installed a 4” RC long arm lift, hidden 10,000 winch, 33” BFG KO2 tires. Also put a Spartan locker in the rear. It runs and crawls excellent!! Up here in Canada we wheel for 6 months in the snow, a good set of tire chains makes this thing a beast. Please do more videos on the mighty WJ!

[@LukeEdward]

This is a wonderfully maintained WJ. Looks spectacular. Very much a performance machine……. Except that 4.7L V8 is on it’s way out. If you’re ready to have fun with a beautiful Grand Cherokee and are prepared to replace the engine, go for it. You can see the beginnings of it going full “Saliva” (“Tick, Tick, Boom”).

[@JF-lt5zc]

The smoke coming out of the exhaust when they revved it says it all. Still, nice rig. Drop a fresh 5.7 in there and you'd be set for another decade. What I find interesting is the tires. I have 32s on my WK with no lift. They easily fit in the rear well and just fit up front. (lift is on the way). Not that my WK would out perform that WJ with the solid axles!

[@geuros]

@@JF-lt5zc I believe 5.7 is too long to fit in WJ, I read about that on WJJeeps, have one myself, also 4.7. I believe flooring it regularly and keeping an eye on the oil changes and coolant is crucial to keep that engine running happily

[@finnirish12]

@@geuros may be true. But someday I'm gonna see a viper swapped wj. I will make one fit if I can afford it someday.

[@geuros]

@@finnirish12 that will be bonkers :D

[@cmdrhvacker5650]

@@JF-lt5zc true lol my 4.7HO is straight piped and I dont get nearly as much smoke from the exhaust.. I don't think I've ever seen ANY smoke let alone a drip of fluid but I AM in Arizona born and raised so idk maybe that has something to do with it... but it does get cold here and I see a ton of cars on the road with the typical early morning cold weather steam from the exhaust that I NEVER have seen from my WJ

[@Seattle808]

Noooo don’t sell that beautiful WJ! 😭

[@colegarthwaite5633]

Cant wait for for you guys to test an old fx4 ford ranger! They came standard with 4x4, 4.10 rear end lsd and a twin stick t case. Stock on 31s! Check em out, they are rapidly increasing in price, with many owned by older folks from new...

[@javierlb2041]

i have a 2002 wj but it is 2.7 diesel. the diff betwen that one its that mine has the quadra drive and thats magic, hope you can do in the future another comparison with the quadra drive model. great video

[@chadingram6390]

The main difference is the varilok axles but the locker he installed is the better way to go. The varilok isn't as effective on 33" tires

[@andysaunders3708]

With the WJ - go for the High Output 4.7. fitted from new to the Overland only. 30 bhp more than standard @ 265. Doesn't sound like much of an increase, but, dropped valve seats notwithstanding, actually surprisingly fast and effortless. I miss mine, but with gas prices in NZ, she had to go.

[@bennapier9260]

I have a wj and love it. Very capable and affordable.It's never broke. And doesn't have all the squeaks and rattle of the zj

[@dtoney1182]

When I first saw thumbnail to this video, I thought this was my WJ! I have the exact same color, 4.7, 4x4. The only difference is the color of the interior. I can attest to the reliability of these Jeeps. I have had mine for 4 years & it made a successful move from Orlando, FL to St Louis, Missouri. Passed vehicle state inspection & emissions test with flying colors. Best vehicle I have ever owned.

[@southbay281]

I have the same wj. It's a keeper for sure

[@V8AmericanMuscleCar]

I had turbo diesel WJ and I really enjoyed that ride, on the road or of the road.

[@michaelwilliams8297]

Everything about that WJ is spot on with one exception, it should have a 4.0 in it. My WJ was dirt cheap, has been stone cold reliable, and has 220k.

[@jeremysgarage498]

Such a great design and actually of good quality. Had one back in 2013 and it was a great vehicle. Unfortunately my 4.7 had timing issues and bent the valves

[@Keyno77]

They're very well known for dropped valve seats, the inline AMC 4.0 are perfect.

[@douglasbeary7890]

They are known for dropped valve seats is true but also true that is caused by improperly purged/bled cooling system.

[@barrya.6212]

Yep...go with the inline 6 banger / 4.0 ...they'll make it to 400,000 with decent maintainence

[@tombrinson9402]

I had a 04 WJ , and loved that Jeep , ending up with putting 575,000 miles on it before I sold it to a couple for a song, still see it out and about . Loved that Jeep.

[@torreypires6192]

575 damn

[@Sanjko87]

On what engine was it

[@tombrinson9402]

@@Sanjko87 the 4.7.

[@930GearHead]

My 2000 wj limited is almost the exact same as this, same color and everything. Love it!

[@vinny143]

Nice Jeep!

[@GoodMorningMrTunky]

Awesome balls

[@msclecarcrzy]

He's right I have a '99 GC with over 250k and it's reliable as hell! Still drive it everyday. Mine has the 4.0L which has tons of low end torque. Great engine. Everything still works on it

[@cmdrhvacker5650]

I have a 04 4.7ho limited... tons of power no issues offroading as with the 4.0... but how do you maintain 65mph uphill (or get to 65mph)🤣 I haven't owned a 4.0 WJ but I hear that is the biggest flaw with them is that they cannot get out of their own way

[@msclecarcrzy]

@@cmdrhvacker5650 Well I can't speak for other people but mine has over 250k now and it is down on power but has tons of low end torque! The 4.0L in my opinion is one of the best motors ever made. The 4.7L has more power but don't over heat it. They don't take heat well. I had a 95 JGC with the 5.2L (318) and that thing would run. Loved it

[@pizzanut180]

8:43 *Isnt going to leave you stranded... yet! because that blue smoke is something that you had to checkout ASAP*

[@rodagg]

Guys of TFL, buy that jeep and show us the capabilities of the WJs!

[@douglasbeary7890]

These guys will never show you what a vehicle is truly capable of. Im not knocking them at all this is a great channel for the poeple dabling there feet in the offroad world. Im a subscriber and love the content. FYI this video was oranges to apples comparison. That jeep was modified and he was wrong about the system that was in that jeep based on the explanation. Quadra-trac 2 is a a five position t-case 2hi-4hi-fulltime 4hi- neutral- 4low....... what he discribed was the quadra-drive system full time 4hi- neutral- 4low..... both work great. I own 5 of these vehicles 4 of them are stock and 1 on 35s long arm 6" lift locked front and rear both axles are trussed chromoly shafts 30 spline upgrade and 4.88 gears 4.0l quadra trac system..... 3 others are 4.7 highoutput with quadra-drive and the 5th one is standard 4.7 2 wheel drive I also own a 1990 grand wagoneer

[@717UT]

@@douglasbeary7890 You are thinking of the Selec-trac system. It has the more traditional transfer case settings you described. Quadra-track 2 is exactly how he described it. Quradra-drive is the same all time 4WD but in addition to Vari-lock axles. I know because I own a 2001 V8 with QT2

[@conormccarthy4409]

Love the tough T, but give me a tough GC any day of the week

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

me to 1993-98 or 1999-2004. in line 6 or v8 not sure of 2005-10 ,2011-21 will I get 221k miles out of them ??

[@conormccarthy4409]

@@youtubecarspottersguide1 i cant see why not. I had a liberty with the same powertech 3.7 v6 that the WK grand cherokees had and got her to over 200k before getting into an accident, have driven the hemi version of it multiple times in recent years and they still seemed strong, and the WK2 with either the 3.6 or 5.7 is hard to beat for reliability in that segment

[@darrenbishop4327]

@@youtubecarspottersguide1 I’ve owned three wj’s and I currently my driver has the 4.7 and it has 230,000 on and it is still a great vehicle to drive everyday. My second one I traded in own my wife’s car and it has 262,000 with the 4.0 and it was my daily driver and was also a beast. They are work horses for sure.

[@MrThewhip333]

I have the wj limited so has hydraulic lockers front and rear and I switched to part time transfer case with the v8 . Quadradrive came with lockers then

[@rockymountboy]

They don't actually lock. They get pretty close, though.

[@MrThewhip333]

@@rockymountboy true more like a limited slip really but they stay locked up for a bit

[@chadingram6390]

@@MrThewhip333 Just gotta keep smaller tires on, it won't couple correctly with bigger 33"+ tires

[@MrThewhip333]

@@chadingram6390 yah even with the 4 inch lift the 33s don’t have enough room either, tore the bumper off...that’s after we cut whells back.

[@R3Dband10]

The 4.7 v8 in thr jeep is an absolute beast when pairs with quadratrac but the taureg having lockers from factory is hard to beat. Not to mention the approach and departure angle on the taureg.

[@joegriffin6699]

I've had my wj 2.7diesel 12 yrs now. 30 mpg (UK) . Ausi lokka, puk lift n proper rock sliders (sill cut out) it goes anywhere, comfy, reliable and great on fuel. Had the usual xj, 4.0, crap on fuel, diesel xj, better, 3.1 wj, crap and a 3.0 WK. Good but expensive to run here. Messed with them all, I'm sticking with my wj 2.7 crd.

[@BabyfaceChase]

Goes to show that if you maintain it properly, anything can be reliable. (Some just may need more maintenance than others.)

[@billj5645]

We owned a WJ that we bought new and it was a great vehicle. I would prefer it to any current GC. If it was available with the current Pentastar V6 and lockers it would be a great offroader, mechanically similar to the current JLU.

[@krover01]

Low range 1st gear is the original hill descent control! Its really all you ever need.

[@Medic_312]

Mine is on 3" lift springs and long armed front and back with 33" tires and simple fox 2.0s and absolutely race through the desert.

[@WW-wf8tu]

Tommy, your off road skill and advice for the viewers is spot on. One expects a modified/lifted Jeep with more aggressive tires to walk up the same line that stock VWT struggled going the same crawl speeds. The VWT is still a helluva bargain! Going the same places in STOCK form that modified's go. That is what makes the VWT the winner. ;)

[@-redtango]

Do you remember when TFL wasn't just a big commercial for their online bidding site?

[@joshc606]

Never would have guess that mileage

[@jstersmithson]

I knew from the beginning that Jeep would make it up that hill without a problem. I had a WJ and I miss it I could blow though mud dirt and swamps like nothing. And it was stock with all terrain tires.

[@dentondunn4346]

Was it a Quadra Trac

[@aussietaipan8700]

Jeep WJ reliability? I purchase my WJ V8 in 2013, it had an engine tick (according to the advert, was actually a spun bearing). One new engine later its still going well 2021. During this time I had the dash out to replace the broken HVAC blend doors, new heater and A/C evap cores, re-glue the dash pad to the frame. New steering box, radiator. But I still love this car.

[@mzwandilenzimande4621]

FYI I used to have an 04 TDi touareg with the rear locker and it always did way better up my steep sand and grass driveway than my mom's 2000 WJ 4.7 with QD. The Touareg never slipped even with nothing engaged and the suspension in sport, wet or dry. I have since sold it for 14 JKUS, and now my mom wants me to buy her WJ.

[@michaelhastings7441]

Same tyres might have been a different story , in the UK would be better to have the WJ as parts prices for the VW are high

[@Luca_Natoli]

The older jeeps are unbreakable. Too bad the new ones aren't built the same anymore. Nice Jeep, and I don't say that a lot.

[@alexandervouzenthal8163]

If I'm correct, Quadra Drive is even better as it has gerotor style LSDs in both rear and front. So in 4lo it does not only lock up the front and rear shafts but also the left and right wheels on both front and rear axles when there is a wheel spinning

[@planetultimaterally3403]

The best unibody Jeeps were the XD, XJ & ZJ's with the NP242 gear box. The VW TReg has a lower gear ratio than any Jeep plus it wont rust as fast. The air suspension on the VW is amazing and equipped with a lift kit, skid plates, and some decent all-terrain tires it will freak out any off-roader. Plus the 4.2 V8 is the brutal is specially in Sport mode, same engine concept as the Porsche Cayenne. Best to keep the VW in low range and just the the gearboxes work against gravity and if needed bump it. Cool video.

[@nathanm6143]

Both are nice rigs, but not really a fair comparison with one being mostly stock and the other being built. The VW had more goodies stock with a center and rear locker, which is impressive. One thing that I don't like about the new Grand Cherokee Trailhawk is that it still doesn't have a rear locker when the smaller Cherokee Trailhawk does. I still prefer Jeep because of all the aftermarket goods available to mod it to your liking

[@BigMateo24]

Honestly man thats pretty mild for a WJ. You wanna see built rigs check out the guys who swap 1 tons and 37's and turn these things into hard core rock crawlers and race king of the hammers with them. 3-4 inch lift with $100 disconnects and hand me down jk takeoffs is pretty much the standard for wjs. Heck you can throw a 2 inch puck lift for only a couple hundred bucks and still have it be pretty good.

[@michaeljohn7405]

They sprinkled magic dust on these at the factory. The WJs look good I’m getting one looking for rust free. With under 150,000 I’ve seen one of these with 370,000 at the dealer auction.

[@edwardamo]

Still driving my 2000 WJ, though I've beat the bottom up a bit from scraping more than a few rocks. Jeep's Quadradrive AWD system with low-range transfer case works great. Gonna miss it when I upgrade to a Bronco. :-)

[@StarGateSG7]

The Jeep Cherokee and Grand Cherokee are NOW one of your BEST USED BUYS in 2021. The off-road performance of these, even in luxury trims, have always surprised me at their supreme competence on really gnarly trails. The thing one must do of course, is put AFTERMARKET SKID-PLATES underneath with you are wanting go truly off-road with these. The Cherokees have Jeep Sahara DNA in them so they CAN do 4x4 off-road competently. Just put good tires on them! v

[@jerroldshelton9367]

I like the new Bronco, but I'm not convinced that a Bronco is an "upgrade" over a 2000 WJ, especially if the WJ has been tweaked with a little aftermarket love. ;)

[@tallll70]

​@@jerroldshelton9367 upgrades if you get all offroad features, traditional 2 speed transfer case, front and rear locker and auto mode which works even transfer case from hi to lo automatically, feature list is nice if it will actually work well in real life, i guess the only downgrade is front articulation and V8, but both should bring upgrade engine hopefully in millage and for sure ifs will ride better edit: i forgot... auto disconnecting sway bar which works on fly in any position is cool party trick too... again if it will be reliable, Wrangler's disconnecting sway has have vehicle in fair level and they do brake little too much

[@jerroldshelton9367]

@@tallll70 Upgrades????? Have you actually driven a QuadraDrive WJ on trails? If you think this new Bronco is going to go anywhere a QuadraDrive WJ on the same size tire can't go, I'd guess the answer is as resounding "no." You know that they also have two-speed transfer cases, right? And that QuadraDrive system makes having fully-locking differentials superfluous. Okay, so you do have to be smart enough to know when to pop one in to four-low or not, but beyond that, they're pretty much "point and shoot." No stupid "G.O.A.T. Modes" to dial. No lockers to switch on or off. You just pick a line and drive it. Put both on the same size tire, and I doubt a new Bronco can go anywhere a QuadraDrive WJ can't. If I had a QuadraDrive WJ, I'd spend my money on keeping it long-road trip and backcountry exploring reliable, and perhaps on modding it, if necessary, but I wouldn't be spending it at the Ford Dealer just to get something else that essentially does the same thing on technical trails.

[@williamfenton6562]

Yess, the video I've been asking for!!!

[@jerrywyant5409]

So the whole video was about the jeep with an appearance by the VW.

[@KeithNelson-hu2ic]

I had that same Jeep and the motor on mine blow up at a stop light with only 110 thousand miles on it. Also it had weird electrical issues.And the rear in went bad on me. Other then that it was a great Jeep.

[@calebzoetewey5298]

Where is this trail? Because I live in Colorado and I’ve been wondering for awhile. Awesome vid!!

[@NitroAero]

Me as well!

[@WJdriver000]

Sad to say this video is one of the reasons the cherokees are getting expensive 🤣🤣. I love my v8 wj and would like to get another one with a 4.0. Stop telling people ab how good they are.!

[@samwhateverportsche]

What makes you wanna get the 4.0 ? 🤔

[@WJdriver000]

@@samwhateverportsche sorry it took so long to respond, the 4.0 is one of the most reliable motors ever built and if you stroke and bore them out maybe a little Nitros. They run

[@samwhateverportsche]

@@WJdriver000 interesting ... Unfortunately I think I have the worst engine 😤. I have the WJ with the 3.1 TD ... Man it's a big mess. Now it won't even start anymore. Last week something popped and there was oil unter the hood and leaking out. Haven't figured out where it came from as that engine fills out the entire bay from top to bottom.

[@WJdriver000]

@@samwhateverportsche yeah do you live in Europe ?? I wish I could get a diesel

[@samwhateverportsche]

@@WJdriver000 yupp. I am from Germany.. moved to Spain.. it's nice to have a 4x4. But trust me you don't want the 3.1 ... They Sometimes sell for 1000 bucks as none wants them.

[@JaxT83]

Had a WJ with 4.7HO and Quadradrive for years and loved it. Regret getting rid of it, but windows failing and blend door were a pain in my ass.

[@jojodirk7710]

Damn I would have spent the money to fix it. They are getting harder to find.

[@ErokCherokee]

I know the feeling. Had an '04 WJ 4.0l, needed a new tranny but also had electrical issues and a sunroof leak...swapped it for a WK2

[@edzimdahl1158]

Missed which v8 the wj has,, I've a 98zj laredo upcountry, 5.2 249transfercase, 2inch spacers which is just enough to run 31s, acquired at 208k miles to which I've added another 254k miles, a very reliable capable daily

[@royvinator1945]

I bought a long arm lifted WJ with a 242 t case with hd heim steering. Nice jeep with a blown 4.7L. I can't find a good engine in a junk yard anywhere around me. The search goes on.

[@tmmsplace]

Predicting: they’ll perform similarly but VW more comfortable. Analysis: results for WJ even better than Toureg.

[@liam_cowen]

I'd take the jeep anyday and pay double for as well. Jeep is the offroad kind and always will be. Especially with solid axles

[@sto380]

Never seen a jeep winning Paris Dakar or any other of road rally.......

[@erwinroman4217]

I bought a WJ for my daughter and am looking for one for my wife. Great vehicles. I'll stick with the 4.0L I6 thought. The 4.0L in my son's XJ is apparently bomb-proof. Just don't overheat them.

[@hewlett260]

Makes me miss my WJ

[@rusticrc]

Almost at 600,000km on my 2000 wj Laredo 4.0L 😏 everything works and no check engine lights 💪🏼 WJ fan for life.

[@luvcrim]

What about the automatic transmission? Never had that limp mode?

[@oscaramador4200]

I've been waiting for so long to se a wj on this channel!

[@reidgrandchamp774]

Not many of them left because they were in the junkyard by 100k miles. Mine was terrible.

[@Turshin]

@@reidgrandchamp774 sorry to hear that. Mine was great.

[@shanewiliamjohnson]

You dont need a locker woth the quadratrac 2. Its the best mechanical 4wd system ever made and it would churn up that hill stock. The lift and disconnect is cool but installing a locker is unnecessary. That will out rip a wrangler easy

[@rubenbraekman4515]

Sure... make a video promoting the hell out of that Jeep then sell it on your site... you guys are good businessmen

[@bkb2865]

Hi from France, I like my Cherokee XJ but only in manual gearbox, thank for the sharing 👍

[@xmonger]

TFL needs to buy this Jeep WJ and produce a ton of content off of it. I have an 03 Overland WJ and it's an amazing vehicle.

[@reidgrandchamp774]

Based on how terrible my 02 Laredo 4.7 was I'd say most of them are in the junkyard by now. I thought it was the ultimate luxury off-roader when it was new but ended up being a money pit to keep on the road.

[@jamisonjamisonx]

Hmmm...that quadratrac II sounds like 2H + traction control with a 4L option. I had 2008 Fj Cruiser and it was full time 4wd: H was 60% rear 40% front power delivery + traction control with Hl and Ll options (Hl splits power 50-50 front and rear and keeps traction control, Ll keeps 50-50 power and turns off traction control + allows usage of a-trac and locking diff). my 5th gen 4runner has 2H, 4H, and 4L (and sounds a little similar to this Jeep as 2H is rear wheel drive + traction control). Really prefer, and miss, the FJ Cruiser set-up.

[@TheJamesbomfray]

Those old Jeeps were awesome! The tork of the V8 engines were unbeatable. Good old times

[@thinde88]

I had an 03 Overland with an OME lift and loved it. Would have been interested to get more thoughts on the lunchbox locker.

[@ItzzTesta]

They are the worst of all the cheap lockers

[@bensmith5455]

They are the worse if you drive in snow and ice on the highway. They work great offroad.

[@H2HSnakePL]

I feel like I am falling in love with WJ more than WK 😯

[@717UT]

Seems like if you get a good WJ and take care of them, they'll last a long time. Thanks to Chrysler being janky in the early 2000s, there's a lot of lemons and the 4.7 had some glaring issues. But I still love mine and hope I can always afford to keep it running.

[@1Gwfn]

I bought this jeep 2 months ago and John didn't mention it was on youtube lol weird seeing your car at 2am on my favorite channel