Is a CHEAP RANGE ROVER Worth the Hassle? L322 Problems…

[@LucyOnCars]

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[@Bluebottle_GB]

I'm pretty sure there are a few guys on forums with 300k mile L322s. There are (at the time of writing) over 500 L322s on Autotrader, over half have done more than 100,000 miles. If people didn't want to drive them, they wouldn't repair them and keep putting the miles on! Like Matt says on @High Peak Autos - buy the car you like, drive it and fix it when it breaks.

[@robholland6460]

Avoid changing heights with handbrake on...that’s the creaking putting stress on the handbrake. Also better in neutral.

[@LucyOnCars]

Oh I did not know this, thanks!

[@jamesjesudass2402]

thanks for the tip

[@norp7374]

Where did you get this information from? Can you cite a proper source?

[@marktalbot4wd]

@@norp7374 he is “the source” on all things L322.

[@norp7374]

@@marktalbot4wd sounds like he's making things up lol

[@glasgowcarstorage]

An expensive RR will cost you just as much to keep on the road. Nobody ever bought a RR for reliability or cheap motoring. Keep up the good work, loving your channel.

[@FolkinghamRob]

When I first bought my L322 I was constantly worried about it going wrong 6 months later I just drive it and don’t worry about it, if it breaks fix it - don’t worry, you’ve got a good car so far

[@JohnBaxendale]

Same! Service it regular, drive and enjoy.

[@jeromeandre4915]

184.000 miles, 4.4 SDV8 405 before I sold it and went back to L322 - the best of them all!

[@jacobvanness5979]

I've put 10,000 miles on my L322 in the last 3 months - it has never once let me down! You have some repairs to catch up on but it will be great once you're there!

[@nickdavis8467]

Hi guys, great channel, I am not sure when you asked about your viewers car mileage if you just meant if they had a Range Rover or not. My car is a Lexus LS430 on an 02 plate so its 21 nearly 22 years old with 140,000 miles and its in fabulous condition. Its the highest mileage car I have ever owned. All the very best to you from Nick in Wolsingham

[@nolanstaveley-haynes2129]

Absolutely nothing to worry about Lucy, as you know I'm on my 4th L322. The RR has gone lop sided and sagged for 2 reasons. The car has been left for 2 days on a none level gravel drive so in that period it will automatically lose we're it's supposed to sit suspension wise, (just RR for ya) secondly when you open the door without the key the compressor is automatically initiated, yours is probably the original one in the boot so will be lazy now due to age, I just cleaned mine when it did this no issues since or easy replacement off eBay and easy to fit. I would suggest a mobile EAS unit I carry one on the glove box as a back up £50 off ebay absolute must you just plug it in the diagnostic port and it clears all eas abs codes then does factory reset and off you go. Hope this helps. It's just my advice to you there's plenty on here with good knowledge All the best

[@iles1995]

2004 Discovery 2 TD5, 220,000 miles still going strong! Big diesels that have been subject to regular engine oil changes can easily go on to 300k. You'll find the rest of the car and the engines ancillary units will start to let you down before the engine does. Spray your airbags and the connectors on top with a soapy water spray to check for tiny air leaks, may need a good clean first :)

[@jamesdavidson3713]

To keep it in Access Mode for a car park, when you've selected Access Mode keep the button pressed and it will lock in and then when you have finished select Normal Mode and keep it pressed until it brings. This is how my 2012 Discovery 4 works so I can only assume that it is the same set-up 🙂👍

[@robholland6460]

Same on L322

[@AndyK.1]

You get a pad lock symbol when it locked in access

[@laurencefahey2085]

Recon gearbox about £2k , my original only done 86k my recon has done136k , but now I know to change the gearbox oil once a year it seems to keep going . After long journeys my car is super smooth for about 500 odd miles , all the crap burnt away . Always makes me smile

[@IanTresidder]

Owning and running a Range Rover is like a love affair, You will have your good days and you will have your bad days but if you love your Range Rover then its worth it. There is nothing like a Range Rover.

[@alastairsmith1572]

My Landcruiser 200 V8 has done over 300000 kms and so far only replaced two light bulbs. They’re not quite as plush as the RR but way more reliable.

[@cameronjohnsonc]

Love your videos and absolutely love your Range Rover! I have a 2012 L320 Sport and love it. I had the timing chains replaced at 100,000km as preventative maintenance and other than that it’s been fantastic. I completely agree with you, they are definitely worse the hassle. The value for money is incredible with these vehicles - nothing else compares to these! Admittedly, these cars are much more enjoyable to own if you are mechanically minded and can work on them yourself. Keep up the great videos!

[@curioushex4782]

Although the air system feels complicated it’s actually pretty straight forward, put it into off road height, pull the fuse for the air and see where it drops over night 1 corner = a bag front/rear could be valve blocks , overall is probably air tank leak or or air pump failing, also look at things like the xlifter for a higher ride height at speed that still lets you adjust to access :)

[@issacmba7671]

2004 Mercedes G wagon. Gas. 342k miles and it runs like a champ

[@Lazyboy76]

I have a 2009 3.6 Tdv8 Westminster currently at 144k, I bought it last year from Sterling car's in Reading aka "Cars with no reserve reading" on ebay. I think I paid about £7.5K. I've so far replaced the front upper and lower control arms, serviced it, new battery, changed the gearbox filter and oil, changed the front and rear differential oil. New/second hand upper tailgate re-sprayed and fitted. When I bought it the air-conditioning didn't work so a friend did a full re-gas for £60. Fitted General Grabber AT3 275, 55 ,20's tyres. I've just blanked of the EGR valves, best thing I've done so far as it was rough idling when cold and now it's running sweet, I've had no EML come up so far. I'm going to service the compressor with a service kit, as it sometimes runs a bit slow. I ve got 20mm spacers to fit plus 2" lift kit to fit. Also I've got to change the torque converter oil, plus another change of the gearbox oil as it had never been done since last year, and you can never drain all the oil out of the gearbox in one go unless you flush it, but some people say that can cause more problems. (done all the work myself apart from the re-spray & I'm not a mechanic) if you guys need any help I only live in Brighton. 👍🏼

[@user-yk7vz7vj9u.JamesS]

Hi Lucy, Great video last year I bought a 2010 one owner 40,120 miles full history from New L322 3.6 TD V8 having previously had a P38 Petrol with 92,000. Love the car even more than the P38. Already had 1st service with LR local specialist at Wigton Cumbria. Simon Huntingdon Ltd. Excellent service and advice. Happy to do some jobs myself. Just got all the brakes parts from Rimmer Bro’s so this weekend I’ll put new discs and pads all round.

[@MrTwister86660]

That clunk into reverse could be if you put it in Park while the hand brake is off and it’s rolled slightly. So I’d put handbrake on first then put into Park

[@MediumBluWonder]

The highest mileage car I own currently is a 2008 Acura TL. I'm not sure if there is a U.K. equivalent beyond the Honda Accord, but it just hit 294k miles and is still on the original engine and transmission. I got it back during the summer before I started college and it had just over 80k miles back then. Surprisingly, everything except for the seats have held up.It's never left me stranded nor has it ever had a serious repair. It has also outlived two Audis which has still surprised me to this day.

[@paulthompson7280]

Before assuming its the Air struts check the Velve Blocks front and rear and one in-between. Ps a good parts supplier is Jhon Craddock UK for genuine Land Rover Parts OEM equipment don't get Aftermarket parts if your going to keep your Range Rover use OEM genuine Land Rover Parts, I've got a Discovery 3 4LT V6 Petrol as its cheaper to Recondition a Petrol V8 or V6 and flush Automattic Transmission and put new sump pan filter for the Transmission and change oil in Transfer case. I done mine myself on my Discovery 3 and used a Transmission flush machine, smooth as silk now im a Mechanic and this is good advice for your ZFhp8 Automattic Transmission

[@stevenshuttleworth6689]

My 2006 BMW 330d Touring is currently on 221k miles. Still pulls hard, and looks good

[@derekgibson3223]

Hi Lucy I had a set of Uni Royal rain tyres fitted to my RR Sport, delighted with them. I would not recommend more aggressive tyres, they will decrease your mpg, probably make the driving less comfortable. Just my humble opinion. Keep up the good work with the videos . Many thanks

[@tristanboler2782]

Great video Lucy, I have a 2012 with 113k, had it 14months. Rather than wait for issues, I Have spent a fortune in preventative maintenance in last 12 months so I can enjoy it 😎 hopefully this year will be abit cheaper although just had the 5 wheels refurbished and yearly service next month after 5000 miles which I'll do myself. I park mine up for 2 weeks at a time and I cover it so always clean when I take it out and keeps the UV out of the cabin as its in the sun everyday 😎. Leave suspension in normal height most of the time. Starts on the button when needed. Can't ask for more👍 enjoy it, nothing better on the road.

[@Parris-vs1bc]

I have face lift 2010 l322 3.6 tdv8 on 78k faults I have had top 2 x turbo inlet hoses fail, this is a common on fault, alternator fail - another common fault due to current draw on electrical system, battery as was 5 years old , L shape inlet pipe/hose on driver side inlet manifold and osr height sensor fail, VDS (variable dampening suspension) on nsf and Osf struts go, this has been temp repaired previously by original owner, the wires become brittle due to heating and cooling and break. But Land Rover do a modified loom for VDS on front Struts. When my height sensors failed it, went onto bump stops, then extended off road mode when driven. OSR sensors replaced, suspension calibrated job done. It’s a 12 year old car, it’s a Range Rover, I do get Range Rover anxiety but it enjoy the drive. Newer cars just don’t cut it, they all look the same and build quality is poor. These still have some class about them and don’t look out of place in the country side or outside a swanky restaurant or hotel. Well looked after examples are becoming harder to find. Religious servicing and quality parts and fluids is the key. Thanks for the video updates.

[@biffa4444]

Hi Lucy Love the videos and your experiences of the l322. I have a 2007 tdv8 3.6 155k. Absolutely love it. Done loads of little mods and try to fix the little things as they happen. There is no better car in my experience. Even when it goes wrong I still love it.

[@marksnellingphotography]

Had an Escort RS Turbo that I personally done 260k in over 15 years. Key to any car life is regular quality oil changes.

[@angusbettini3598]

My 2006 Vogue Supercharged has been great. 171,000kms currently. Definitely worth the maintenance. Nothing drives like a Rangie.

[@LucyOnCars]

100%!

[@davidwalker72]

From a fellow owner of an L322 (and many other 4x4 vehicles) I would recommend against larger or more aggressive tread for a number of reasons. 1. Decreased on road performance 2. Decreased fuel economy 3. Worse ride 4. With a decent set of all seasons like the latest pirelli scorpion Verde tires you still have more off road performance than most any other vehicle. 5. They're likely more expensive too. Unless you're doing really serious off reading, more aggressive tires are a no go as far as I'm concerned. Yes the RR will have a few more repair bills, but what else will drive and look that good? I think it's a keeper for sure. Spend a little each year to keep it in excellent condition and love it all the day. Also, with access height mode hold the down arrow for 3 seconds and it will lock in access mode. Just don't drive over 20ish mph (fast for a garage) and it won't raise on its own.

[@derekgibson3223]

Hi Lucy, enjoying your videos. I had a set of UniRoyal Rain tyres fitted o

[@SzymonDe]

I've owned a 05' Honda CR-V 2.0 petrol with 764.000km and it was going strong until It was totalled after a smash in the back. Now one of my cars is a 05' CRV 2.0 petrol with almost 290.000km and still drives perfectly.

[@richardgoodman3350]

When changing the tyres, don't put big chunky ones on. They are noisey, use more fuel and don't grip as well when driving on tarmac. I have allways used Pirelli Scorpion XL tyres marked m+s. Nice and quiet and stable on the road, and I have not been stuck on a muddy track yet. They also do a Pirelli Scorpion Verde but this is more of a road biased tyre and seems to be fitted to a lot of Range Rovers now from new. The best modification I have made to my 2005 l322 4.2 sc is to fit deployable side steps. Car looks much better getting rid of the big fixed chunky steps. £2000 option when new, I bought mine from land-rover dealer in Chester for £250 about 4 years ago as they were looking to off load some new old stock

[@josephgittos3787]

was just going to make the same comment , I use all season Pirelli Scorpion Verde

[@LucyOnCars]

Hmm I don't need it drinking even more fuel do I🤣 Brilliant tips thanks!

[@LucyOnCars]

Yes we had our eyes on these ones

[@johnjoel8204]

if you leave it parked and it lowers overnight or after a few days, then its a leaking air bag in one of the four air bags, if it sunk and did not raise up the way yours has then that would be a bad compressor pump, i had the same issue on my 2011 lr322. at 7;16.. its adjusting itself because there is a faulty airbag and its compensating by pumping more air into the faulty airbag, that or you have a leak in one of the pipes feeding air to the suspension, thing is if you dont get that sorted out then the pump will start to over work by constantly pumping and adjusting, that will make it overheat and fail as well, then you will have to deal with replacing the pump as well as the faulty airbag or the leaking compressor line. its an easy replacement fix for both,. you either sort this one issue now or both later on.

[@shaunbava1801]

Air shocks could be leaking, if it's dropping like that within a day it might be a bit much, if you don't drive it for 2-3 days that's normal for an old Land Rover mine's been like that for the last 5 years no issues yet. The thing to look for is the EAS compressor running often while driving, if that happens you'll burn out the compressor and a new one is like 700. The other thing to try is calibrating the height sensors, when those get out of whack the car levels is weird ways especially if you are parked in access mode, it will also let you know if you have bad sensors, with age they can go bad at off road height and access mode but seem ok in regular mode. Air suspension in this generation of LR is good, it's just when it breaks it is expensive. As others have indicated the key is maintenance, if your LR specialist says it needs new bags, valve blocks, etc it's much cheaper to do maintenance preventatively than to allow the compressor to burn out. An ounce of maintenance is worth a pound of cure on these Range Rovers. If you don't stay on them it costs you, even suspension bits, failed sway bar links or bushings put strain on other suspension parts people let it go too long and the next thing you know you need to redo the entire suspension. I've had mine for 15 years and really so far nothing major just the ordinary maintenance and suspension bits probably a few more issues than a Toyota but really not that many. The cars get a bad reputation because LR quality control is terrible and some new cars are atrocious with the issues they have. Also certain models have certain known issues and LR never corrects the issue, they sell years of cars they know are defective but since it will survive the warranty they don't care like the 5L petrol with it's timing chains or the ingenium 2L diesel which is just a ticking time bomb or the 3L TDV6 which spins bearings and snaps cranks. If you have a "good car", no QC issues with one of the more reliable power plants(anything that is 4.4L seems ok) they are not any better or worse than most cars.

[@_stoatchaser]

My 2004 VW T5 2.5 TDI lwb van is currently on. 232000 and going strong. Les fingres crossed. 5 cylinder engine. Routine service and oil changes are a must and it's had a turbo and clutch and flywheel. In the 7 yrs we have had it it has been very reliable with only one breakdown which was a split intercooler. It's been retired to full time camper now but for a long time it was my daily doing 10 to 12k a year

[@LucyOnCars]

232k…the number to beat!😂

[@curtis24-7]

@@LucyOnCars Market now is crazy but pre covid high Mileage cars were the best kept secret. I've got an 2011 Grey Astra Van on just over 287,000 miles, you would never tell if you drove it. (I've owned it for 9 around years bought at @130,000) I service it myself every 8k to 10k miles which costs me £50 - £70. It's not worth anything now and too good to scrap. It's the best £4000 I ever spent! lol

[@andrewliu3838]

Hi I’ve had 3, L322 all 3 have had air suspension problems luckily they’ve changed the compressor in the boot that solved the problem, if you,lift up boot cover and remove the wheel you will see a black ‘doughnut’ that’s the compressor, inside , check to see if there’s any leak from pipe they sometimes go. The part is about £300.00 and 1 hour at specialist garage. I now have a L405 same problem as your had compressor changed 4 months ago. At dealer complete unit cost £1,200.00 was done under warranty

[@KurtTank392]

Lucy, I have a 160K on my Ford truck, Just had a valve job done, pertronix for ignition, most important, oil change every 3 months. Great accent Lucy

[@markgollan]

My last Seat Exeo reached 225000 miles before I chickened out and replaced it! Routine maintenance and the car never missed a beat. Great video

[@LucyOnCars]

Haha amazing!

[@Tinkerbella285]

You remind me of how I was when I first got mine; I had a spell where I’d get into the car and be like “ what’s gonna go wrong today”. The whole air suspension thing…the creaking is cos you’ve got the electric brake on. For the record don’t make the mistake I did, don’t use the handbrake unless you’re on a hill, because I had a new handbrake fitted (£600) and then we got covid & she was on the drive for 2 weeks. The handbrake seized on. Fortunately my mechanic was able to override it via the diagnostic tool, but often it’s drag recovery onto a flatbed & a new handbrake! As far as your air suspension goes, if you’re parked on even a slightly uneven surface it will try to correct. For example if u leave it parked in O-R mode you’ll get “dying swan” at some point (nose dive) 😂 which freaked the crap out of me the first time. After 2 years of ownership I’m now on my 2nd L322 shape sport. Once you’ve had one you won’t go back. As for reliability, get yourself a good specialist, and if you look after her she’ll look after you.

[@charlotteanddavestorey6553]

We’ve had a Range Rover velar for the last three years , never had an issue, absolutely fantastic car , before that we had a discovery sport, again no issues whatsoever . As long as they are treated with respect and serviced when required they are fantastic machines .

[@jamesshephard2013]

I have a 2011 4.4TDV8 126k on the clock. Fantastic car. These engines will go for many more miles, 200k should be achievable. I park mine at the mailbox in Birmingham regularly and just lock it into access mode (hold the button down until it says locked) and then height is no issue.

[@lima5421]

I own a L320 Range Rover Sport. Had it a year and it's been excellent. First thing I did after purchase was get was get a full service and replace the timing belts. I also put a set of new tyres on it. For peace of mind I have a private warranty which covers £100 per hour labour and up £10000 in faults. Someone people will say it's not worth it but it helps me sleep better at night 😁

[@LucyOnCars]

Haha that will sure help with the sleep! Good idea :)

[@PreparedDeath]

Who is the warranty with? And how much did it cost? If you don’t mind me asking

[@waynelittle5583]

I've got a fiesta Mk6 van 1.4 tdci that's on 394000 miles and still runs and drives great

[@markdinmore9766]

I love Range Rover and I have always wanted one and now I have one it’s the L494 totally fantastic car

[@LucyOnCars]

Brilliant!

[@yankeedoodle880]

If its dropping slightly over a couple of days you have a slight air leak, nothing to worry about at this stage. Old air bags do leak as rubber corrodes, might be an air line connector. Expensive if Land Rover do it, but not too difficult to do yourself, depending on your skill levels.

[@JohnBaxendale]

It would generally drop equally as it tries to level itself every so often. You really need to pull the fuses to stop that happening to be able to tell which of the air bags (if any) are actually leaking.

[@trainman665]

It shouldn't be dropping like that. If you ignore it it leads to further damage as you are driving around with a leaking system.

[@yankeedoodle880]

@@trainman665 the only other damage it will do, is make the leak worse. The worst that will happen is you end up driving with the suspension on the bump stops. It quite common for an air bag to leak slightly when they get old and start to perish

[@trainman665]

@@yankeedoodle880 Wrong. It causes more and more strain on the compressor. They eventually burn out, and then you have no suspension whatsoever. Bump stops are also not designed to be driven on, and doing so will also put extra wear on the tyres. If the system is leaking, it needs fixing. People who can’t afford to maintain them properly tend to ignore leaks and end up with bigger problems down the line.

[@yankeedoodle880]

@@trainman665 at no point did I say it was ok to drive on the bump stops, or not to fix it!! Read comments properly!!

[@ThePvthfinder]

Our shunter in work has 900k on it, my 2006 L320 RR Sport has 182,500 miles on it and it’s not let me down once in 9 years.

[@TheBoss0405]

Hi Lucy, my L322 is only a low mileage car at 114000. My suspension started like that and just before it was due to go in for a service I got the same warning as you, followed by n air suspension system overheat warning. Two days later, the car had to go for the service and replace a cracked strut and air bag. Because it had been leaking so long, it also killed the compressor. All together, it cost me almost 2k. All I can suggest is you get the air bags checked before it kills the compressor. Loving the channel. 👍

[@robholland6460]

I spent a fair bit in last 4 years getting my 2011 4.4 tdv8 up to scratch

[@AG-ob3fx]

I've had a 09 vogue 3.6 tdv8, and had to have an alternator and new battery in 6 yrs 120 mikes. Did shut down and need recovery truck for alternator. I then had a 2012 vogue 4.4 bought 2 yrs old and had a starter motor issue but was thankfully at home and got it going and drove to dealer to get replaced. It did have the rotary gear selector that got stuck in drive and I knocked engine off and had to be recovered on t recovery truck . This was after 40k miles and had a few messages on dash about reduced power but shut car off and locked it had a coffee and was fine again. So 2 cars over 11 yrs and 190k miles between them were only issues. Have I ever had another car recovered in 30 years ......No. 2 recovery trucks in 11 yrs which could have been 3 with starter motor. They were only issues I had and loved both cars especially the 2012. I love the latest model and can't wiait for full electric model but was I unlucky as all cars have starter motors and alternators. They are not made my range rover and are bosche parts. The raising rotary gear selector was a gimmick that was always prone to fail. Did look good though. Yes I would have another and had fast cars but nothing like a range rover.

[@craighogg5472]

Only just started watching this channel and your partners. I bought a Discovery 4 around 7 months ago (12 plate, 112k) and haven't had a single issue yet. Love RRs but the discovery does everything I want with slightly less risk!

[@scmtbcoach2477]

has the same if not more issues! the snapping cranks on the 2,7 and 3.0 disco engines is a constant worry!

[@sevvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv]

Hi! I’m a kid but I love your channel anyways my mom and I just got a 2008 Range Rover l322 4.4 V8 today and I love it already it’s at our lake house and we are home already and I already miss it 😢

[@chriskingston4256]

You have a leak or a faulty height sensor. The system checks itself every half hour / hour even when parked / not in use and it levels itself. So if you have a leak somwhere and one corner is dropping, the rest of the vehicle will do the same to keep it level. Standard for RR and Discos.

[@AJ-yw5zy]

If you think there's a leak, spray bottle with washing up liquid / water, get underneath the RR spray around the pipework & air bags, and look for bubbles. But, it might level it self across a non level surface, they do some silly things at times. As others have commented the EAS tool of Ebay will clear a code and get you & up a running.

[@SH-qx4cc]

182k on my 03 L322 HSE, had to replace an original air strut recently and has been perfect since, yes there is always something to fix or repair but you’re definitely right that nothing big enough to put you off (just yet), I’m 25 also and can’t think of what I’d buy next probably a newer L322 or L405 but anything smaller feels alien to me now.

[@LucyOnCars]

Isn't it funny how quickly you get used to the size! Another option would be try out a petrol next time but we'll see...

[@SH-qx4cc]

@@LucyOnCars tell me about it! Hate to say I think I’m hooked for life! Love yours and George’s videos, as both of you say exactly what I do to my friends that love to joke about buying a basically 20 year old car. Great content and hopefully more young people get into L322 life!

[@bernardshieldstysonfive1009]

I have had my Range Rover sport 4.2 supercharged for over 4 years only had to replace one air bag and two brake pipes best car I have ever had Bernard

[@RunRiot2007]

Loving the videos. A simple and relatively cheap mod I would recommend is interior light LED upgrade. Did it to min and it looks great, LED's are brighter and use less power. I also did the puddle lights in the wing mirrors and the reversing lights, next is the reg lights, front fogs and main beam. Anyways keep up the good work!!

[@JonMartin84]

Same I did the Precision LED premium kit. Super bright. Also did Osram Xenarc nightbreaker Xenon bulbs. Worth every dollar.

[@derekgibson3223]

Yep I agreeabout upgrading the interior lights, have bought the bulbs waiting on a warm er day to install. Weather has been awful last few weeks.

[@bobluce8077]

I'm driving a defender with 243000 miles on it with original engine and gearbox, also have a discovery 2 with 190000 miles on it, with no issues what so ever.😉

[@LucyOnCars]

That is what we like to hear!!

[@Elijah-cy9do]

Is it a 300tdi?

[@bobluce8077]

@@Elijah-cy9do yes the defender is a 300tdi.👍

[@leedsleedsleeds1747]

I'm not really into Range Rovers but do like your video's and watch every one. For me I wouldn't want the hassle and cost of owning a RR but do understand your love for the car. Keep making the videos and I will keep watching

[@andykilgour5269]

Hi Lucy I have a 2006 Td6 and I love it I do a lot of work myself as they are bolt on and off parts and diagnostics are simple enough, mine has 187.250 miles.

[@Frosty05]

Just found this channel, was surprised that you didn't have more subscribers! Nice editing and fun to watch. I then heard in another video that you are a vlogger initially, which makes sense with the talent in editing and all that. I'm a car nut and getting info LR's more, so I'm intrigued by this channel. Good luck with the car and baby!

[@alvarofaria4793]

Dear Lucy. This is Alvaro from Brazil. I have a L322 armoured because this is Brazil... The car is very good, but repair costs are very high, even because parts are in GBPounds. Anyway they say that LR´s has bad reputation. Actually these cars have some isues, but they are like airplanes: You can´t afford to DON´T provide the proper maintenance. It is expensive, but preventive maintenance it´s a lot cheaper then corrective measures. With some money, some luck and a good mechanic, those cars will run forever> cheers!

[@simonphipps4863]

Hi Lucy. I have a Range Rover Sport L320 with 190000 miles on the clock, I’ve owned my RRS for 12 years and I still love it. Before you go off-road I’d suggest you come to our off-road centre in Milton Keynes it’s an old Land Rover Experience centre and let me show you how to get the best from your L322. 👍

[@m4drx]

I ran L322’s for over 10 years and now have an L405. You have a leak, hence the dropping overnight. After a certain point of trying to keep level, it will drop all the way down. As your pump will be running periodically to keep it at the right height due to the leak, it will eventually wear out and need rebuilding or replacement, so just have the leak found and fixed. If you want proof of this, disconnect the battery and leave it overnight and you will see how much it drops without the car trying to keep it level. If it doesn’t remain exactly as it was, there is a leak. In terms of creaking/clunking, that’s because you’re changing the height with the handbrake on. The clunk into reverse is due to the moving a little when changing height whilst in Park. When parking for example, if you put it in park on a slope and let go of the brake pedal before putting the handbrake on, it will clunk when you then take it out. If you put the handbrake on first and then put it on P, then it won’t clunk when you engage reverse, providing you release the handbrake after too. Hope that makes sense. These Range Rovers can take a fair amount of maintenance but there is nothing quite like them to drive. Maintain it properly and it will serve you very well. Take it from someone who has 13 cars but wouldn’t daily anything other than a Range.

[@JohnBaxendale]

The pump doesn't run overnight to keep the car level, it will only release air from the other corners to level the car. So assuming there is a leak in one of the airbags, eventually, the entire car will be on it's bump stops. If the car were dropping one side due to an air leak - why is it not dropping the other side to level off? Surely it's just the car levelling itself due to uneven ground, else both sides would have dropped by a similar amount...

[@m4drx]

@@JohnBaxendale exactly this but the reason I suggested the battery be disconnected is that it may not be totally obvious if it’s only a small leak. Disconnecting the battery stops it trying to level (by deflating), so you see the problem most easily and clearly with minimal effort and tools.

[@JohnBaxendale]

@@m4drx Yes, you can also just pull the fuse rather than disconnect the battery. In the video they highlight that only one side of the vehicle is dropping, hence I'm questioning whether it's actually a leak. To me, the fact that only one side of the vehicle is dropping is indicating that it's just levelling itself off. If there were an air leak both sides of the car would level in fairly equal measures. It seems more likely to me that the ground appears level, but isn't, hence the car looks to be uneven but has actually levelled itself off.

[@m4drx]

@@JohnBaxendale given that she is not that mechanically adept and was looking for a fault code, that we both know won’t appear for this. The battery seemed the most suitable suggestion vs pulling the fuse. I don’t think the issue is it levelling out. In almost a decade of running multiple L322s at the same time for a period, I’ve never known one to self level to the bump stops unless there is a leak. I’ve rebuilt the entire system on my early one and on a friends. Including the rebuilding compressor itself and stripping and replacing all the o rings on the main valve block. Stripping and cleaning crosslink valves and replacing the tank on one which was full of water and failing. The early ones are much less reliable air suspension wise, so I had a fair bit of experience chasing issues with them. The later ones (I ran a 2011 autobiography for 4 years) are much better. This definitely appears to be a leak to me. Most likely a pin hole in a bag or pipe or a push fit connection leaking. Easy to fix.

[@JohnBaxendale]

@@m4drx You’re not really answering my question though - why is only one side of the car dropping, if it’s a leak? Surely, if it’s a leak, then all four corners would drop equally as the car tries to keep itself level. Doesn’t this just suggest the car is parked on un-even ground and is levelling itself out? I’m fairly sure that pulling a fuse or disconnecting the battery is a good next-step to help diagnose the issue, I’m also fairly sure both are within the skills of the owner.

[@Paul-ob3vt]

Hi I have just bought a 2012 4.4 TDV8 170000kms.... G'Day from Australia been enjoying your channel good work 👍

[@Reborn_Rover]

If the suspension seems to deflate you probably have a leak somewhere in the system and if it seems sluggish raising a new suspension compressor probably wouldn’t hurt generally not too big of a deal

[@benfel9403]

To be fair I have had a Range Rover with air suspension since 2003 and have never had a major suspension issue on any of them. The only high cost comes when someone charges a lot to diagnose the fault and they do not understand the system. Good luck with it. The back / front lifting is in case it is raising at night with the headlights on so it does not blind any oncoming traffic. A slight limp means a leak somewhere, possibly an air spring. In an ideal world do not leave the suspension issue for too long as you will burn out the compressor quicker than normal.

[@JonMartin84]

I have seen a guy on Range Rover forums that has a 2012 L322 5.0 Supercharged with over 424,000 MILES (Not KM). He made a thread about his purchase and posted pictures of the odometer. You can probably google search it. As for me I have a 2011 5.0 HSE LUX with 165,000 Miles. She looks / drives better then most cars half her age :)

[@jay_claricoat]

My highest millage car is my Disco 2 which is about 135,000 which I dont think is too high. My dad has a Rover 75 with about 223,000 miles on it now, still going strong and very reliable

[@Elijah-cy9do]

Is his Rover the 1.8 or the 2.5 V6?

[@UKTrucker_Malc]

Regarding the distance sensors on the front, yes cleaning them will solve that alert coming up. As a HGV driver, many of new trucks in past several years are fitted with adaptive cruise control and the same thing can happen with the sensors on them. Clean them off and problem solved 👍

[@UKTrucker_Malc]

Normal. Mine is usually parked up for a week. Every time I come back, it’s very low to the ground. Now when I park it up, I just lower the suspension before leaving it parked. Also if you park your RR L322 up for a few days to a week without running it, expect battery issues. Invest in a pair of heavy duty jump leads, best investment I made after buying my L322 a couple of years ago 😂

[@JohnBaxendale]

You *should* be able to leave it for weeks without battery issues, if this isn't the case you have an electrical fault or a knackered battery.

[@Wiggy14]

Get some air bags for it (Aerosus) are decent. You two should have a go at doing it yourself if you’ve got the computer to depressurise then system before you start

[@Akkers24]

BMW e90. 2nd owner. 238,500 miles. Still runs sweet

[@vinniem8996]

I own a 08 freelander 2 and the problems are the same, its just Land Rover / Range Rover. but they are still worth it. TEST do you park up and as you walk away and look back at your car. If the answer is yes , you still love your car ha ha .

[@andyrobertshaw9120]

For mileage, I am not high, but some taxis exceed 400,000 miles. A friend of mine (not a taxi driver) had a Peugeot 405 from new, and got to 300,000 miles over a period of 25 years.

[@gavinhudson701]

I own a 2004 L322 3.0tdv6 on 234512 miles still going strong

[@jamesmacd]

Fixed the adaptive cruise control on my jag xf... cost a lot of money!!!!

[@angusbettini3598]

Mine had a slow leak in one airbag and the car self levels itself to match so would drop over night. Mechanic said it's not a huge problem but if left it puts more pressure on the compressor. The creaking is because the handbrake/park brake is still on when raising or lowering.

[@LucyOnCars]

Ahh good to know, thanks!!

[@danielheathcote5625]

I wouldn’t have thought 170,000 miles is that high for a 13 year old Range Rover if you factor in average annual mileage most owners do. I know before my parents used to do 12,000 a year each - their jeep Cherokee that they kept for 11 years had 145,000 miles. Serviced on the nail by a specialist for the last six years, it’d still pull 3 tonnes easily, gearbox sweet as a nut, and engine pulled like a train.

[@stuartlevine7073]

Mine is 2004 4.4v8 petrol 171,000 miles Drives perfect and absolutely love it. It does have a minor oil leak that's slowly ruining the driveway but apparently its the timing chain cover seal which is going to be bundles

[@user-rl6px5ob3d]

Mine leaks to but it has a little bit of a rattle in start up that eventually goes away.

[@stuartlevine7073]

@@user-rl6px5ob3d I also have a rattle for literally a second. I dont care, great cars

[@mr_jamie_f]

The creaking is the air suspension fighting against the handbrake. If adjusting height I always take handbrake off.

[@benny532017]

All the suspension faults are not that cheap to fix but not that expensive either. The major problem with ours is rust, especially the rear arches - if you're doesn't have any yet you should get some plastic protector strips from the Freelander 2 and install them, there's a good vid on YT showing how

[@LucyOnCars]

Ahh will look into this thanks !

[@Reborn_Rover]

Also you might want to take a look at the XLifter suspension control upgrade unit

[@exploringwithjacob8641]

95k on my 2009 Westminster! Love it! Don’t know if I like the newer L405 as much so I think I will keep mine for a while yet!

[@garryclark4653]

The main problem is that people bought theses cars and ran them on a Fiesta budget, these are complicated cars! Keep on top of the servicing and they can be just as reliable as anything else, albeit more expensive. The distance control sensor on most things get dirty and affect cruise control etc, including my truck! Enjoy the car! They’re great!

[@LucyOnCars]

Very true!

[@stephenwebbbowen7862]

Lucy I have a 58 plate Range Rover vogue with 185400 on the clock but I have a full service history but more importantly a two year warranty with the RAC and the last mot was passed with no warning I paid £5790

[@life107familyfitnessboxing8]

You got a awesome Range Rover Vogue. It is definitely worth owning for me because I repair it myself and the drive is awesome, like no other.

[@devilmahon666]

There’s a very slight air leak somewhere on your suspension system that is making it drop like that. I use to have a Ford Galaxy 1.9 TDi that had done 307k miles and I’ve driven a Skoda Superb that had 430k on the clock and drove fantastically.

[@JohnBaxendale]

If it's an air leak, why aren't all four corners dropping equally? Isn't it more likely to just be the ground not being level?

[@devilmahon666]

@@JohnBaxendale each corner has its own independent airbag for the suspension so separate in some ways.

[@JohnBaxendale]

@@devilmahon666 yes, but only one side of the vehicle dropped - so are you suggesting that both airbags on one side of the vehicle have a leak? Possible, but seems less likely. Much more likely the car was parked on un-even ground and just levelled itself off, surely?

[@ashmob]

I have a Volvo XC90 which has done over 270K miles…I drive it daily from Chichester to work in Worthing

[@leetaylor5348]

Hi , just watched this vlog , about your air suspension. May I suggest you lookup on here ," high peak autos "... he drives an R.R. too .. ask him the questions he is also a car dealer !! But up in Manchester, so not near you near Brighton .. he has had three that I know of he thinks they are the best cars , so he will be the guy to contact !!! .

[@bruceevans1133]

Oh! that SDD will do all Range Rover / Land Rover models 2005 - 2012 includeing Jaguars too !

[@raymondpedlow6580]

If your car drops over a couple of days then suspect a leak. If it does raise to normal height but slowly could also need a compressor rebuild. I did mine on my Td6 £15 on parts and followed a KZbin vid. As soon as I did mine it raised so much quicker. Pop over to Rustington we can chat range problems 🤪

[@andyrobertshaw9120]

I reckon a RangeRover is about as big a car as you can get in the UK. But in the USA they have their Hummers!

[@AndiAndu]

My FF has 192K and is a 4.2SC.

[@Reborn_Rover]

The suspension compressor is easily accessible in the spare tire in the boot. Four bolts and it’s out the task should only take about 20 minutes

[@rangiemike]

Bought our L322 5.0 Supercharged in 2015 on 20,000 miles currently on 67,000. Only issue one failed injector, serviced yearly by Land Rover.

[@JDHDBS]

I’d go ahead and change all of the shocks, it sounds like they’re on their way out and leaking air. I’d do that soon, so the compressor doesn’t burn out from constantly running to keep air in the shocks.

[@JohnBaxendale]

The air bags are not "shocks", the shock absorbers are entirely different components. Having a very slow leak is unlikely to burn out the compressor, though that's unlikely to be what this is anyway.

[@JDHDBS]

@@JohnBaxendale please forgive me for using the wrong term. I’m glad you knew what I meant. I’m speaking from experience, because a slow leak gradually becomes a steadier leak and causes the compressor to run a lot and can cause it burn out from being worked all the time. It could be ride height sensors too.

[@dukadecastro5381]

If you keep noticing the vehicle lean after a few days or a week Lucy it could be a leak in the lines on the side it's always going low on. Sometimes this could put unruly undue pressure stress on the air pump by making it have to come on a lot more. Sometimes a few minutes after the vehicle is shut 📴 (to compensate for air loss when the module is still actively monitoring the system) and could shorten the life span of the pump. If this is your problem hopefully not. If the leaks becomes excessive you will notice it takes a shorter time and the vehicle 🚜 will lean, like one or two days. Again I hope this isn't the case with your gorgeous Range Rover. Hoping for a glitch that's cleared up. Cheers 🥂 mate.

[@deathsfaction]

People buy these cars cheap and expect to run them cheaply. It's not a Corsa or a Polo. Like you said, it's an £80k+ car.. and that comes with £80k+ bills. I've just returned from a 4 week trip to Spain - covered approximately 4200 miles without a single issue. I spent nearly £3k on preventative maintenance (and some other bits) before I went because I wanted to make sure all was well. I don't expect to have to pay the same again any time soon and I would have no problem at all jumping in it right now and doing the same trip again... apart from the fuel bill.

[@josephgittos3787]

The thing is these RR were expensive vehicles so expect some parts to be expensive but to be honest some parts are also just as cheap, its also good to have a friend who's a mechanic or even have a go yourself. The thing with any vehicle that is a 4x4 and also gives you the most luxury ride things will go wrong.

[@stoyanivanov6665]

Get rid of an airleak if there is one ,because your compressor could be struggling