IS (A NIGHT TO REMEMBER) THE BEST TITANIC FILM? (part 2)

[@Warped9]

Seeing A Night To Remember in its original black-and-white makes it feel almost like an on-location documentary.

[@lpquagmire3621]

Easily the best Titanic film but there's no excuse for colourizing a work of art.

[@JimmyNotes]

​@@lpquagmire3621I found the colorization to be distracting and stopped watching 10 minutes in to watch the Black and White version.

[@lpquagmire3621]

@@JimmyNotes Yes -- black and white films are in no need of "fixing." If a film has to be in colour for someone to enjoy it, they should watch a colour movie; there's plenty to choose from.

[@101shapshifter]

That's why I prefer having the Criterion Collection variant of the film.

[@douglasswicegood4420]

You are so right, it does!

[@charlieharper886]

I don't know if you ever noticed this, but actor Bernard Fox is actually in both of these movies. He plays Colonel Archibald Gracie in the James Cameron movie, but he also plays lookout Frederick Fleet in A Night To Remember.

[@deeellebee9720]

Lol, that’s hilariously wonderful! Talk about coming full circle

[@artycharr]

I will always remember him as winston from the mummy.

[@rmsteutonic3686]

Imagine if he played Frederick Fleet again.

[@DonnaBrooks]

He would be TOO OLD to play Frederick Fleet! There was almost 40 years between those movies! That's why he played an older man. @@rmsteutonic3686

[@DonnaBrooks]

Wow, thanks for that bit of interesting trivia. That's somehow amusing that he did that!

[@Rayrard]

I will hold a special spot for Night to Remember as getting me hooked on Titanic as a kid, alongside the Ballard Discovery of the Titanic book. I had a VHS of that movie and I watched it so much that the VHS was damaged and only worked from the part after the collision where Andrews had the map of the ship out. The stories it told were so fascinating, and I loved the baker character. The effects were top notch too.

[@galoon]

A Night To Remember and the Discovery of the Titanic were among my first materials on the subject, too! I also had Wyn Craig Wade's Titanic: Death of a Dream, which is a book about Senator William Alden Smith's 1912 US Senate Inquiry into the sinking. Definitely worth a read if you don't already have it!

[@shirtless6934]

I first saw "Night to Remember" on television in about 1967 when I was 10 which was close to the age you were when you saw the Cameron movie. Thus the older film, being my first introduction to Titanic, always has been my favorite.

[@christopherstephenjenksbsg4944]

I first watched "A Night to Remember" about ten years after it came out. (It was being shown on TV.) I became seriously interested in the Titanic as a result, and I read the book it was based on shortly thereafter. The events in the book and the movie are definitely based on eye-witness testimony. I can't find the exact reference at the moment, but I am amused by a remark made by a half-asleep passenger thinking that the vibrations caused by the impact led her to imagine that a flock of pelicans (I think) had made a "sloppy landing." Excellent book and excellent movie! Not to be a purist, but the colorized footage of the movie is lousy. It was filmed in black and white, and should be kept in black and white! (HRUMPH!)

[@jeanninehochet]

I got interested in the Titanic by watching A Night to Remember too. I love that film and also the James Cameron film for the special effects. Both films have their good points and bad points.

[@larchman4327]

A night to remember is my favorite Titanic movie. I agree the colors are all wrong in the colorized version to the point it is unwatchable this movie must be watched in black and white. Also the video quality is very good for an old film.

[@jamesalexander5623]

The best "Story" of the Titanic is the 1953 version "Titanic" Better Actors for sure with a truly heartrending story. I've always though "A Night to Remember" was a little bloodless!

[@TorontoJediMaster]

The part in the book you refer to is a passenger was reminded of big lake ferries in Switzerland making a "sloppy landing" by rubbing up against the pier while docking.

[@SeattlePioneer]

Heh, heh! I just saw the colorized version for the first time, after seeing ANTR the first time on television circa 1960 ----in glorious black and white! I liked the color version.

[@Feline_Frenzy53]

"A Night to Remember" is my favorite Titanic movie. The book is sensational as well. As long as the reader keeps in mind it was written before the Titanic was discovered in 1985.

[@justinlynch3]

I think the best way to describe it would be - Watch A Night To Remember for a more accurate depiction of how the crew and passengers acted. - Watch Titanic 1997 for a more accurate depiction of how Titanic actually sank.

[@johannalehto9154]

Agreed

[@rmsteutonic3686]

I like that a lot

[@darthplagueis-z6y]

Bro it was Jack n Rose from the beginning to the END of that 3hr movie smh 🤦🏽

[@justinlynch3]

@@darthplagueis-z6y And? James Cameron focused the movie on two fictional leads. Doesn't mean he didn't try to make events happening around those leads be as accurate as he reasonably could with known info at the time.

[@karlzen86]

My favourite of those two movies is "A Night To Remember". One of the reasons is that we got to see more of what happened on the Californian and the Carpathia.

[@56falco]

Great review! I think placing some events on Lightoller's shoulders that aren't historically attributed to him is for dramatic purposes, he does act as a central character for the audience to follow throughout the story. Same can be said of the minor fictional characters, who act really as composites of actual passengers, which helps in telling a more complete version of events, but in a more economical fashion. This is easily my favorite Titanic movie.

[@galoon]

This one is my favorite Titanic movie, too! Overall, it gives the most accurate account of the sinking, apart from the ship's breakup, of course.

[@aydancasey1953]

It was done to attract Kenneth More to the role as he was a big name in British cinema at the time

[@allamericantravels]

I was fascinated with The Titanic before the Cameron movie came out, but admittedly I never saw A Night to Remember until after Cameron’s movie. That was a mistake on my part. There are things in each movie that I like and dislike more than the other movie, but both are very solid. Jack and Rose are there to give the viewer a connection to the human element of the disaster. A Night to Remember is more for the historian in all of us. In the end, you can’t go wrong with either movie.

[@paulmiles6012]

The best line in movie history.... " if any of you feel like praying, then go ahead.... The rest of you can join me in a cuppa tea".... How "British" is that... 😉🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@BobbiMac]

There were British soldiers in a tank in ww2 being attacked by shells and their tank got stuck in the mud and they couldn’t shift it. Their situation was pretty grim so they did what any true Brit would do. Sheltered behind the tank and made a cup of tea.

[@CodyJMinor0620]

This comes directly from the trivia section of A Night to Remember from IMDb: The creaking noises during the sinking were created by the set as it was winched up to create the tilting deck effect. The microphones picked up the noises. Director Roy Baker thought they added a huge amount of realism, as they sounded like the groaning noises a sinking ship would make, so he kept them in.

[@CodyJMinor0620]

Another thing I love about this movie is the cinematography, done by the late great Sir Geoffrey Unsworth, also famed for shooting the 1978 classic "Superman".

[@beeking1792]

I like to belive the reason why all the lifeboat incidents all happened to lightholler in ANTR is because when Adapting a true story, most times you have to change the actual story so the plot can flow better & to make the film more enjoyable for the viewer.

[@gregorymoore2877]

Plus Kenneth More was the big star of the film. They probably wanted to give him more things to do. Most people are probably not Titanic geeks. So, to draw in the general audience, you need a character they can follow and get invested in. Lightholler is that person in this movie.

[@RCassinello]

Yes, precisely. The filmmakers didn't make a mistake. They knew they were being different to the book and true events in order to convey all the story better. Even with more time devoted to the sinking than the Cameron movie, there still isn't enough space to get everything. Far easier to track one major star as opposed to 7 different officers and a Captain. And let's face it, the depiction here of Lightoller is far superior to Cameron's bumbling coward version. :)

[@Rayrard]

The Californian parts were unique to Titanic films. I remember watching the movie and hoping the captain would decide to get up and wake the wireless operator because of the lights and rockets. I remember being amused by the long hoses with cups on the end that they used, like a cup on a string game, and they blew on the hoses to make it "whistle" in the captain's cabin. He gets called a couple times after turning in and I think it was all part of the suspense

[@obiwanbul]

Your conclusion is spot on! I had seen Titanic numerous times as a kid (even renting the VHS twice for which my parents scolded me for), and I had also gone back to it many times to the point where I had the sinking part memorized. This is also what made me look up 'A Night to Remember' here on KZbin. The first time I watched it, I was blown away. Not only did I learn a lot of new things about the ship, but it also cleared up a lot of things I didn't understand about the James Cameron film. Particularly why Murdoch was letting in men in the lifeboats; there simply wasn't anyone else, since all the passengers were on the other side. Cal didn't even need to bribe him. He could've easily gotten in with his bodyguard for free. :D But then, I would go one step further. Once I watched the James Cameron re-release in the cinema, I was able to get a whole new appreciation for all the small details. They even have the yachtsman sitting behind Molly in the lifeboat! He even has a more accurate look with the beard, which he did not have in 'A Night to Remember'! Overall, both films fulfill each other perfectly, and I would highly recommend them as a double feature.

[@nbunnysnowboard]

Love your videos so much, they make my day! Arthur Peuchen is the yachtsman you were thinking of! I love A Night To Remember, I watched it for the first time this year after a full year of researching what happened during the voyage and it was so exciting to see things that Titanic 1997 didn’t show like why Jack Phillips responded the way he did to the Californian and that Charles Joughin spent a lot of the night not only drinking (he told his family later it was schnapps, not whiskey like they show in the film) but throwing deck chairs over the side of the ship to help passengers who were in the water. I also like how it showed a man (I forget who it was) coming to the defense of Margaret Brown when Hitchens yells at her, which actually happened (it’s in the 1997 movie but in a deleted scene) and her standing up for herself which is exactly what she actually did. I always thought it was strange that she just sat down and stopped talking when Hitchens told her to shut up in the James Cameron film. I thought it was out of character, which it is since we know the real Margaret Brown didn’t just give up like that. I like your view of watching James Cameron’s film and then A Night to Remember. This is what I did and I highly recommend watching it in this order. It fills out the story that the 1997 film didn’t show. I think it’s best to watch it if you already know a lot about the real sinking because then you are aware of what’s going on and the little details they put in, like Edith Russell (Rosenbaum) getting her toy pig out of the drawer or Harold Bride fighting with a stoker when he tried to steal Jack Phillips’ life belt while he was still radioing for help. If you don’t know that much about the lives of the passengers aboard the ship then you don’t get as much out of it. It’s the same with the James Cameron film but I feel like A Night to Remember is more subtle with its references so you would only see certain things if you are really into learning about the ship and its passengers. I think they both go hand in hand, but the James Cameron film is a great intro film that’s good for everyone to watch and a Night to Remember is for the people who know the events that actually took place. It’s a supplemental film to Titanic, they should come as a pair for those looking to get a full picture of the disaster. You have probably already read this book but I just finished Jack Thayer’s book that came out 5 years before his death retelling his account of the sinking for his family. If you haven’t read it yet I highly recommend it for anyone interested a passenger account of the sinking. His account is very unique because he was a 17 year old first class boy who knew about the sinking early due to his parents being friendly with Thomas Andrews but he was separated from his parents, not allowed in a life boat, and had to jump overboard at the last minute as the deck was sinking out from underneath him and he had to swim to the upside down life boat that Charles Lightoller, Harold Bride, and Archibald Gracie were balancing on (Collapsable D?) He was so close to the ship that he saw it break in two and was largely discredited for his account until about 40 years after his death when the wreck was found in two pieces. He lost his father in the sinking as well as the friend he was spending the night roaming the ship with and his life and death after the event were very tragic but it is an account of someone who was so close to the ship that it’s extremely interesting to read. Highly recommend for anyone who is interested in a passenger account of the sinking.

[@MightyMezzo]

I’ve seen three different movies called “Titanic”. “A Night to Remember” beats them all. And for handling a huge destructive disaster, I’d take Kenneth More over Leo DiCaprio any day of the week. More manages to save himself and several dozen other people in his movie.

[@Ben_MuscleInnit]

I watched it and I really enjoyed it and I need to say that I was really surprised when there was the scene where three 3rd class passengers speak polish (I'm from Poland)

[@RCassinello]

I take it they are three men wondering why there's water coming into their cabin?

[@Ben_MuscleInnit]

@@RCassinello yes that was the scene Passenger woke up the others saying "people people wake up there is water in our cabin john look what a mess"

[@SgtRocko]

I read "A Night To Remember" for the first time when I was 10 or 11 and it amazed me. A week or so later, they showed the film as a late night oldie and my parents KNEW how good it was and let me stay up (plus, Mum had a HUGE crush on Kenneth More LOL). Needless to say, it hooked me forever. "Titanic" is technically superior - and YES I admit I truly like that film. But if I had to chose between the two... I would go with A Night To Remember. I definitely agree with Samuel about watching Titanic first, then A Night To Remember for noobs; I hosted a livestream of ANTR recently, and 90% had seen Titanic but not A Night To Remember. They were blown away. One lady even told me "this answers SO many questions I had" a guy told me ANTR gave him a clearer idea of what the collapsibles were like - and EVERYONE told me they ran to look up Charles the Baker (I'd posted a photo of the real Charles to boot) - many had thought he was just "comic relief" LOL I have the urge to re-watch ANTR now LOL

[@cbrenson]

Would love to hear your take on S.O.S Titanic as well!

[@DarthRedshirt]

My favorite Titanic movie will always be Goebelle's Titanic (1943). The cheese-factor is as impressive as their version of the sinking, which was, besides the breakup, quite accurate.

[@oriontaylor]

Goebbels's Titanic is also notable for taking the Hearst-owned newspaper portrayals of Ismay and turning the dial to eleven, which sadly has stuck to the modern day.

[@Romartus]

I believe A Night to Remember used footage of the Titanic under steam from the 1943 film.

[@EpicJoshua314]

With A Night To Remember, I brought up some inaccuracies which I'll get into later and one person said that he wrote a letter to Walter Lord after doing a Titanic project as a kid about Lightoller yelling at Ismay when it was actually Lowe and Lord told him that the filmmakers decided to condense the number of characters the audience needed to follow, and also to make Lightoller the lead. This is why they show Lightoller freeing Boat A instead of Murdoch. Some inaccuracies about the sinking is that the forecastle submerges when Boat B is lowered when by the time Boat D was lowered it was completely submerged, and the 4th funnel is only funnel to fall when Lightoller said that the 1st funnel fell and missed him by inches. These were done for dramatic effects, though I'm scratching my head more at why they had the forecastle submerge so late.

[@thomasackerman5399]

The launch scene prologue has errors since there was no christening of Titanic, nor any other White Star Line vessel, and they sure as hell never smashed a bottle of champagne over her bow. ANTR also was the first movie to take liberties with who designed the Olympic-class; Thomas Andrews stepped in as the lead designer after the design for the ships was largely completed and construction of both Olympic and Titanic were well under way. He and Edward Wilding were assistants to Alexander Carlisle, and Andrews just took over when Carlisle retired in June 1910.

[@RCassinello]

Maybe the late sinking of the forecastle in ANTR makes up for the incredibly early sinking of the forecastle in Titanic'97. :)

[@RCassinello]

@@thomasackerman5399 The most peculiar thing about showing the christening is that the film's producer, William MacQuitty , actually saw the Titanic getting launched!

[@thomasackerman5399]

@@RCassinello Yes, and at the time, the film of the Titanic's launch was supposedly still available, but Harland & Wolff didn't want to release it because they were afraid of the association with the disaster.

[@redsoxfan0907]

We read and watched "A Night to Remember". The most interesting thing was listening to one of the survivors who was a child at the time in a recorded interview. He lived near the town I grew up in. I can't find his name, but he was a toddler at the time.

[@roberthess3939]

If you're a Sox fan (as I am), and live in New England (I'm guessing there), could it be Marshall Drew, who lived in Westerly, RI?

[@redsoxfan0907]

@@roberthess3939 You're right on all counts. I must have conflated two different stories. I thought he lived in Stonington, but you're totally right. On the Sox note, it took me a long time to get used to hearing the name "Mookie" without flinching (1986 still hurts) and then they traded him. I think we'll be toiling in mediocrity for awhile now.

[@TreantmonksTemple]

Great job on this 2 part series! I think Titanic is the better film for costumes, set design, and the look of the titanic itself, but A Night to Remember does a better job with the crew and passengers and the actual events of the sinking. I really appreciate in A Night to Remember that the crew is shown to be doing the best they can, even if they make mistakes. Titanic seems to really want to push an agenda of the crew only caring about 1st class passengers.

[@marekkopton2546]

Did you read Walter's Lord 'A Night to Remember' book? The conclusion author left his reader with is that even after the tragedy no one cared about 3rd class passengers. There were figures in the book and overall conclusion that basically they were all forgot, during the sinking and after all events. I think that's why it was depicted in Cameron's movie like it was, although even in his movie, just before the final plunge, there were a bunch of 3rd class passengers shown on the deck and looking for help. Maybe because it wasn't shown that they came from 3rd class areas caused a lot of ppl to forget that they were shown during the rescue efforts. And yet it was pretty similar in 'A Night to Remember' film - they were also locked behind the gates and there was even a group of so-called 'steerage' (sry i don't like to name ppl like this) passengers orginizing themselves and trying to get up on the deck.

[@starrsmith3810]

I’ve seen this one on KZbin. It was a bit annoying trying to find the original black and white version but I found it…….yeah I will very much never understand why people look down on black and white movies so much and I didn’t even grow up during that time frame.

[@larchman4327]

I'm in my 30s and didn't have a problem with black and white even in my teens actually after watching a black and white movie for 5 minutes I just get used to it. Yeah the colorized movie is horribly done.

[@NickDalzell]

75% of my iTunes library is black and white. I adore old shows. A lot of shows i grew up on was early reruns on Nickelodeon in the early 80s such as Lassie and Dennis the Menace. So i grew up on those. I'm only 44

[@mattobrien7794]

Great video, maybe the reason for a all the extra lightoller scenes is because Kenneth more was pretty big actor back then.

[@0311uli]

Have to be frank, sometimes I find it a chore to watch the film since there's no focal character, though, when the movie picks up during the night of the sinking I do appreciate all the details they recreate from the Grand Staircase, the dining saloon, staterooms, costumes used on the actors since in my opinion, ANTR is on par with the 1997 film. The only I wish was the ANTR team could have talked to Fox and used their far more accurate 1953 film Titanic model, since what they built for their film was a weird Titanic/Britannic hybrid lol! In the end, I agree with you. Both films are a must-watch.

[@Bulgarian_Coastline]

''A night to remember'' is my personal favourite.

[@randomstufliker2]

I was introduced to the Titanic by a book we had to read in the forth grade. I forget the name but it followed the story of the discovery of the Titanic's wreck as well as Ruth Becker on the voyage. I was instantly hooked and constantly checked out the books my school library had on Titanic. Some much so that they actually gave me a Titanic book as a gift. As for the two films (you know, topic actually relevant to the video :p), granted I've haven't seen A Night to Remember (yet ;) ), that movie's strength seems to come from how it portrays the Titanic disaster as an event. Meaning how it shows the how and why of the events happening. The James Cameron film's strength comes from how it portrays how it felt to be on the Titanic, both on the voyage leading up to and the disaster itself

[@stankystankyrat9575]

My favorite is Raise The Titanic. JK JK! As a Titanic historian it's definitely A Night to Remember

[@jonilougy6608]

😂 ok, ok!

[@michaeldenton9618]

One thing I like in the mini series the captain chews out the bridge for not hitting the iceberg head one

[@Truecrimeresearcher224]

I would say a night to remember is a good version to watch. The 1953 was annoying with the horn during the sinking It's like James Cameron took the idea of 1953 and 1958 and combined them into a movie

[@paulie-Gualtieri.]

Hi Sam, hope you've been having a good week and great content as usual. 👍

[@mikebrown3772]

The sinking occured one very dark night, obviously both films had to introduce more light in order that the audience can see what was happening. Being black and white 'A Night to Remember' got away with more lighting while appearing dark but I think the colourisation shown here really makes the external scenes appear much too bright, probably because we don't see colours in low light.

[@oldanalytics3626]

"Saving the Titanic" - the best for me

[@sallykohorst8803]

A night to remember is great too. I love them both the same.

[@Mctabbycat]

I literally paused your video at 2:41 to watch a night to remember on KZbin then I picked up right where I left off had a great night. Keep going your channel is gold

[@richardfox7479]

I’ve always admired this film. One detail that always impressed me: the iceberg itself as shown in the film was based on an actual photo from 1912 showing the berg that struck the ship. That attention to detail was truly admirable.

[@angellight495]

My first introduction to Titanic was via a 1996 tv miniseries called Titanic starring Tim Curry & Catherine Zeta Jones. Not the best but definitely a worthy entry & more than enough to spark my interest in Titanic & other ocean liners.

[@joaocabral3541]

I-m so glad you got sponsored by Histobrick!

[@Trash_Cat21]

It's such a shame we don't get a new big-budget Titanic movie that nails all of these details to tell the story the best it could possibly be.

[@Katoshi_Takagumi]

With all the new information since 1997, there isn't actually a movie around that gets everything right.

[@EnjoySackLunch]

Jesus how many big budget titanic movies do you need?

[@Katoshi_Takagumi]

@@EnjoySackLunch Well.. the last one was 'Romeo and Julia' on the Titanic... a teen movie using the ship for a dramatic backdrop. There's no hurry, though, let's wait for all the possible new research, the 125th anniversary might be a good time, perhaps.

[@Trash_Cat21]

@@EnjoySackLunch Just one that gets things right.

[@SeattlePioneer]

Oh, I'm sure another version will be along, updating what has been discovered about the sinking. And reporting on the ADDITIONAL FATALITIES surrounding the sinking, from the destruction of the submersible.

[@goonagun]

After seeing it, it’s a definite yes. I love that it focuses on the events related to the ship and multiple characters

[@MrCharon1965]

They got all of the details they did because Walter Lord, who wrote A Night to Remember, was an excellent researcher and writer who dug out a depth of historical detail, particularly first person accounts of the sinking. That was my introduction to the Titanic saga 40 some years ago, and I would strongly recommend anyone with interest reading the actual book. BTW, lord has a number of books on Kindle written in a similar personal stories style and with similar detail for only a few bucks each now. They cover Pearl Harbor, Dunkirk, Pacific Island Coast Watchers... to name a few.

[@catherine6653]

Thank you, Sam. I have seen A Night To Remember. I enjoy watching older films.

[@windlesstitan6825]

I see that they converted it to colour

[@shantellerossi8744]

That was such a good video Sam. I love all your videos thank you for sparking my interest even more in Titanic. I love learning everything I can about the ocean liner. Keep up the videos Sam love them

[@michelepineau9657]

Saw the first one when I was 10 in 1968 read the book in school and fell in love. I have over 30 books on the subject. I agree you need to see both movies to get the whole picture, but I tend to zone out the "Jack and Rose" story and concentrate on the historical aspects.

[@TrunksXV]

Fair enough. It should also be noted that James Cameron also used a Night To Remember as a reference for his own film. There are a lot of references to a Night to Remember if you look at his film. When will you review Raise the Titanic?

[@RCassinello]

I often feel like, when Cameron isn't showing his own characters, he's basically just remaking A Night To Remember. I know that's kind of hard to get away from when it's about the same thing - but certainly lines and shot choices, etc., are word-for-word identical.

[@fauzianajam3927]

Wow, Sam. WOW! I'm lost for words. This video was great! A Night To Remember is definitely a great film, far better than James Cameron's 1997 Titanic film in terms of how detailed the story is. But, I like the point you made at the end of the video. The film was definitely innaccurate in some places but, I can forgive it. They didn;'t knwow much avbout Titanic's true story (which Sam has explained several times) and yeah, I don't know what else to say. Great vid as always brother Sam. Without you, I wouldn;t even know abything about any ocean liner ever. Thanks for being who you re and thanks for inspirng so many young kids to become maratime historians. I hope you, Rachel and Rosie are doing well and keep up the good work. And don't worry, if you need a break, we historic travels fans will always supprot you no matter what. Love from India.

[@sepur_lempung34official]

One day i scroll on KZbin then found night to remember, i try search and watch full movie and the crew did do a very marvelous job

[@lisacoto9638]

I was born the year before “A Night To Remember” was released. I remember seeing it at maybe 11-12 years old. I’ve been hooked since then. I’ve seen ANTR many times. By the time the 1997 “Titanic” was released I had also seen every other version of the movie known to humankind. I will always be a huge supporter of. ANTR for all the accuracies and even for the technology that they had available at that time. ANTR also was the impetus for me to do research on most every character in the movie. For reference purposes if one googles “Lorraine Allison” and her family you will find an important account! It’s not mentioned in most Titanic movies but that’s okay. I absolutely agree with Sam that you need to see both as the special effects in the ‘97 film certainly give a feel of being on the ship. Thank you Sam for two more great videos. I love following your work!

[@andrewwalsh5837]

Hi Sam, I've watched A Night To Remember a couple of times and I think it's brilliant especially for 1958, also watch the 1997 version which is also great, but the fictional love story was a bit drawn out, A night To Remember focused more on the crew and tecnicalitys of the situation and the nearby ship, also carpithia, really enjoyed it, and as you said the drunk guy makes me chuckle, think it was true that the amount of alcohol he had caused him to survive in the cold sea for so long, thanks for the video Sam, great as always, Andy from the UK

[@MrWalkers02camaro]

It's just a situation where u have a choice to watch a "realistic biopic" or a "historic based love story". If u wonder what I mean, watch "elvis"

[@Videx19]

Hello Sam. I saw A Night To Remember on our black and white TV set at our coal fired house in England around the time of the sinking anniversary of 1968. The film was much more focused on the Titanic as a British ship for a British audience in contrast to Camron’s take which was more Irish and American. As I said, it was April 1968 when we watched this film. The coal in our fireplace made the scenes of coal going into the bunkers on Titanic seem an extension of my world and the accents were similar to what I heard at school. Then there was the emphasis on class stratification. Though much more rigid in 1912, it was also part of my reality as a young British boy in 1968. When the sinking occurred in the film, my mum was doing her usual Sunday night ironing and I was sitting close to my dad trying to hide my tears as they sang Nearer My God To Thee. You see back then, even British boys weren’t supposed to cry. I really enjoy the hard work that you do in keeping the Titanic story afloat. Both Lord’s and Cameron’s films compliment each other and I agree that they both need to be seen. Of course, I saw Lord’s version first, therefore that is my Titanic film standard. Perhaps you are right in saying that a younger person ought to watch Cameron’s first. Regards Sam, thanks for all you do.

[@robertwall1419]

Great review! Being a longtime fan of "A Night To Remember" what upset me the most about Cameron's "Titanic" was that he deliberately ignored the "Californian" role in the disaster! To go all out on being as accurate as possible then completely, deliberately ignore that major part of the story?! The "Californian" inaction that night is what turned the sinking from a disaster into a tragedy!

[@tomservo5347]

My favorite was Tucker McGuire playing Molly Brown and her bickering with the morose White Star sailor in the lifeboat with very American phrases like "Lightning my foot!" and "Aww, shuddup!". The director of the film apparently didn't get along with Tucker very well, calling the actress 'ornery' on set as she was apparently a real pistol. My Dad remembers this movie was popular to run on the networks during Sunday matinees during the 60's. He'd always watch with my grandparents that were 2 years old when Titanic sank.

[@rmsteutonic3686]

I remember watching this at a friends house once, coincidence had it, he had a second copy of the film on DVD that I took home. Eventually got a hold of the book and have probably read it 20 times now. Great stuff

[@TheRavendearest]

I’d love to hear your review of the 1953 film “Titanic” with Barbara Stanwyck, Robert Wagner, and Clifton Webb. A romanticized version of the disaster revolving around a fictional family aboard the ship. But it’s the movie that I first saw about Titanic that got me first fascinated about the shop and the sinking. The ending is completely melodramatic, with hundreds lining the slanting decks, all singing “nearer my God to thee” as she takes her final plunge, inaccurate, romanticized, but totally heartbreaking. A must see for any Titanicophile.

[@JohnLee-pt5jz]

That's what got me interested on the Titanic, I saw the movie on tv in 1974.

[@205004gs]

Absolutely awesome review! Thanks for sharing. 👍👍

[@tomtheyank1]

Thank you. A night to remember was my parent's favourite movie 🎬. My Grandfather worked on that ships construction in Belfast.. A night to remember still gives me Goosebumps to this day.. Titanic is a love story , sorry..

[@funnynuri]

i am a was here at permir

[@keithgoodnight3463]

How about a follow-up video reviewing some of the lesser Titanic movies out there? They range from decent down to Brightside levels of horrifying but there can be entertainment value in trashing the wrongness. (The first Titanic movie I ever saw was "SOS Titanic," although I was already a Titanic fan from reading Walter Lord's book. That one gets a lot of the people wrong-- it makes Molly Brown an aspiring actress for some reason-- but makes up for it by featuring Lawrence Beesley, who tends to get ignored everywhere else even though he wrote one of the first books on the sinking.)

[@Xqllwss]

i was never really interested in history until my teacher started showing Historic Travels during class. Thanks Sam

[@Lunarbutterflytarot]

I've been binge watching your channel since I discovered it this morning

[@stunder33]

Love your channel bro-forgive me for running you through the dirt but bro-you gotta understand Im 55 years old.A night to Remember was my introduction to the disaster that sparked our modern imagination to the Titanic disaster. This was in 1973 when I was a child and the images on our crappy TV had a powerful affect on me-Skip 3 years ahead and I was able to read Walter Lord's book that inspired the movie-I assimilated all this information back in 1979

[@roberthess3939]

Sam, another great job!! I agree that A Night to Remember is the most accurate movie, except for the "sinking in one piece" aspect. On that score, Cameron's movie has the break-up very well done. In order to write ANTR, Walter Lord researched extensively and interviewed survivors and family members of survivors and of those lost. While ANTR didn't have today's benefit of high tech animation, Lord did have the opportunity to meet and interview many, many people -- which made the movie all that more accurate. When he was young, Lord and his family traveled across the Atlantic on the Olympic, and this apparently ignited his passion for all things Titanic. Now, I have two questions for you: which book do you believe is the best one out there for anyone passionate about the Titanic sinking? I have my favorite but I'm curious which one(s) you like. And my second question (as an avid model builder) is: which replica model of the Titanic do you feel does the best job representing our favorite ship? Best,

[@neilbain8736]

This was the first film I ever saw on the Titanic. It got me interested. The historical accuracy didn't so much as interest me as the actual story. It was not really designed as a documentary but was accurate enough and kept to a good story. The interest in the accuracy of the true events came later, when I was interested enough to go into that level of detail: the discussion about important detail fuels the whole story and keeps it alive. 4:34 The Queen Elizabeth. So that's what it was! I often wondered. My Granddad was there. He worked in John Browns and lived opposite in Whitecrook St. (what the Luftwaffe started in 1941, the Council finished in the 70's when they doubled the width of Dumbarton Road!). Mum always said some of it was filmed in the Gareloch at night and they used locals as extras with the provisio that they had to be able to swim. The water was also very cold too.

[@TorontoJediMaster]

I did notice that Lightoller said and did things that other officers had done during the sinking. I think that was simply artistic license as Kenneth More, who played Lightoller, was pretty much the biggest name in the cast. More was one of the biggest British box office stars in the 1950's. So, it was natural (from a filmmaking perspective) to do so. One of the quibbles I have with the film is an unavoidable one by the filmmakers. The night the ship sank was famously without any wind, resulting in a flat calm. During sinking scenes, you see a few actors' clothing blowing about. (They were filming outdoors and obviously could not control the weather conditions.) If you watch the DVD's Extras, they give a good tidbit away. The "list" of the decks was achieved by the sets being constructed on large jacks which elevated them to the requisite angle. That caused a loud creaking sound, which is heard in the film. The sound was left in because it sounded natural for a ship that was listing to such a degree. They got the details correct because Walter Lord got the details right in his book. He got those details right because he had an invaluable resource that a later generation of authors on the subject would not have; namely, living survivors to interview. (And not survivors who were small children at the time and whose memories are being bundled into lifeboats, but adult passengers and crew members.)

[@TheSportscar86]

I think 1953s "Titanic" is a classic. Yes the clothes are wrong & sets are a bit off. But it was Robert Wagners 1st major film as well as the back stage of his & Barbara Stanwyck passionate/taboo affair....in real life.

[@joonaa2751]

Not to mention Clifton Webb’s character has an interesting arc in that movie

[@SeattlePioneer]

Perhaps you can do a video on all the television time travel programs which have featured someone time traveling to Titanic on the night of the sinking, and then struggling to get OFF again--- or having other adventures. In particular, some of the actors who filled such roles should be interviewed about heir "experiences" aboard Titanic on the night to remember. These are often fun stories that are really part of the Titanic myth telling. They should not be lost to the history of Titani mythology.

[@OfficialSituation]

I love the dialogue heavy nature of the film and other films of the era. Actors who clearly had alot of stage acting experience that can carry a scene with no music and just alot of well written dialogue. My favourite scene is the captain and Andrews going over the blueprints after the iceberg has struck. Great video dude!

[@Jones607]

ANTR is my favourite. The James Cameron movie left the door open for yet another remake. The Titanic wasn’t going for a new transatlantic speed record. The last position of Titanic given to Capt.Smith put her at 20 miles ahead of “dead reckoning.” In other words she was ahead of her schedule. Also, based on the iceberg/pack ice warnings Capt.Smith had received, he changed course for the Titanic to steam further to the south, avoiding the icebergs. Ironically this put Titanic on a course that would take her right into the path of the iceberg which sunk her. Another thing which is capitalised on is the mad scramble for the lifeboats. A ship’s purser who survived, Mr Prentice, said that people wouldn’t leave their rooms, and most of the lifeboats were half full. There was enough room on the lifeboats for up to 800 survivors, and only 500 survived. What fascinates me regarding Titanic is that everything that could’ve gone wrong, did go wrong. The iceberg shouldn’t have been their, but due to freakish weather conditions it was. It was like some unknown evil force wasn’t going to allow the Titanic to make it to her final destination. On top of this and much more, you then have all the freaky testimonies of survivors and crew from her sinking. It’s one of the most intriguingly true stories ever.

[@nedd.8479]

The reason Lightoller is given so much to do is mainly because Kenneth More was the most profitable actor in the film, and the producers saw it as something of a star vehicle for him.

[@mattboy5296]

In terms of accuracy to the real events (according to what was known at the time) I think ANTR is better, but I think the 1997 film is a better movie in the traditional storytelling sense that one expects from a movie. I do still wish we had like an ultimate cut of the Cameron film that included the missing details that couldn't be shown in the theatrical release due to the focus on Jack and Rose. Yes the theatrical release is already 3 hours long, but I don't think a 4 hour cut for us die-hard Titanic buffs would be a bad thing lol.

[@madsdahlc]

Congratulations Sam you are now a genuine real Titanic enthusiast. You have completed what is called the Titanic rite of passage . That is to read Walter Lords book fra 1955 and then watch the 1958. Congratulations you are now one of us .... A lot of us have completed the rite of passage over the years.

[@shaunisaacs2994]

What a terribly arrogant thing to say.

[@RCassinello]

The yachtsman was Major Arthur Peuchen. He was already in his 50s when slid down the ropes into the boat. You do see him in the Cameron movie, but only as random man in boat.

[@xacoupeguy]

You need to review the titanic adventure out of time game!

[@benderbendingrodriguez420]

Sam has the best answer too this question. Both Titanic 97 & A Night To Remember are equally important and should be viewed as 2 sides of the same coin

[@ginantsfan5]

Most awesome vid!!!!! Love both Titanic films!!!!!

[@robeyreed2499]

I saw A Night to Remember in 1978 and I have that downloaded on my phone!

[@MrDebkumarbasu]

From what I learnt from watching these two films is that if someone wants to understand the historic events of titanic, then a night to remember is the one. And if one wants to learn the detailed layout of the ship itself, then the James Cameron movie is a perfect starting point. I watched both because together these two movies are perfect for anyone who is interested in Titanic. And like it was mentioned in this video, watching the James Cameron movie first and then watching the older one is a good way to go.

[@stephanieferguson723]

Really enjoyed this comparison and look at the films! On another note: wondering if you would look into the sinking of the S.S. Vestris. I recently read the one and only book regarding its sinking (last dance of the Vestris) because my grandfather was one of its survivors back in 1928. There are some amazing photos taken by one of the crewmen who survived.

[@rolandrothwell4840]

I watched a night to remember when i was a child in the 1970s. I was very impressed 👏

[@gregzeigler3850]

There were some survivors who stated the Titanic broke in two, but evidently were not believed. For example: "I was 50 to 100 yards away, I would say, when she went down. I could not be exact, but about that. She broke in two. All at once she seemed to go up on end, you know, and come down about half way, and then the afterpart righted itself again and the forepart had disappeared."- Quartermaster Arthur John Bright.

[@elizabethmarielunacordoba9956]

Love you so much sam ❤

[@TreantmonksTemple]

A Night to Remember is available for free to watch on KZbin, either in color or B&W. I'm not a B&W purist, but I prefer that version for this movie because the coloring isn't very good and I find it distracting.

[@mcds54]

A Night to Remember.....I read the book in 4th grade and was forever hooked.

[@bigboyfilmproductions8478]

I actually haven't seen the Cameron film only clips here and there but I have had an interest in Titanic since I was a kid in 2012 Melbourne museum had this Titanic exhibition to commemorate the 100th anniversary and it was amazing they had the artefacts that were salvaged on display and we even got cards saying what passenger or crew we are and we could see if that person survived or not at the end I believe I got a crew mate who unfortunately lost his life so I had something of an understanding of Titanic and doing research (primarily through these videos) I was interested enough to look up other Titanic films and found the full film of a night to remember on KZbin and watched it and loved how accurate it was.

[@donnix1192]

That sounds like an incredible museum, I have always wanted to check out a Titanic museum, we have a few here in the United States so I plan on doing so in the future. Do you remember what passenger or crew member you were given at the museum? My great grandfather Albert Horswill was a crewman who survived the wreck on cutter lifeboat one, the Duff Gordons lifeboat.

[@bigboyfilmproductions8478]

@@donnix1192 no unfortunately I only remember that he might have been a crew mate.

[@arturvinicius2407]

James Cameron's Extended Cut of Titanic has many historically accurate scenes, coming close to the level of accuracy that A Night to Remember had.

[@lexpo181]

Excellent videos you did Sam! You deserve my thumbs up for those 2 parts series. 😉👍

[@rjsouthworth5246]

The footage at 8:00 is actually lifted straight from the 1943 Nazi-produced film Titanic. A ship called the Cap Arcona was used for exterior shots in that film, though I don’t know if it was also used for those specific sailing shots. Towards the end of the war, the Cap Arcona was bombed while being used to contain PoWs, killing over three times as many people as the actual Titanic disaster.

[@101shapshifter]

Makes me glad to own the Criterion Collection version of the film.

[@thomasackerman5399]

At 12:14, yes, "they" did know, or would, if they'd paid attention to Edward Wilding's calculations done for the Senate and Board of Trade inquiries which showed that the damage was about 12 square feet and stretched over the 250-300 feet. Had it been a giant gash, Titanic would've foundered in minutes and far more people or maybe even everyone aboard would've perished.

[@01ls1z28dabx]

This is definitely my favorite Titanic film.

[@TheDunc1]

A film producer Michael Holden, in the early part of his career, did research for A Night To Remember and interviewed one of the survivors. I had along chat about the Titanic with him in 1976 and found him a very nice and interesting man. He was the uncle to my friends Adam, Giles and Dominic Masters who are sons of Art Director / Production Designer Tony Masters. Michael and Tony would work together on Ferry Cross The Mersey. Dominic would go onto work on James Cameron's Titanic. A Night To Remember is a great film, very touching. A bit hard on Captain Lord of the Californian. I think his name should be cleared. His son phoned Pinewood Studios when he heard the film was hard on his dad who was still alive. He was given very sharp treatment. Sales of the book A Night To Remember by Walter Lord had always sold well but sales went through the roof when a new edition was published at the time of the Cameron picture. A good and well thought out review. I have one humble request. Anyone who watches A Night To Remember, please watch it in black and white and not a colorized version.

[@J.M.Chadwick6]

"A Night to Remember" is an excellent depiction (despite inaccuracies most people would not be aware of) of one of the greatest tragedies of all time. The other film focuses on an invented tawdry love story rather than conveying the seriousness and pain of the terrible disaster. I walked out halfway through the second film. But then I was raised to know about the suffering and pain that actually existed that night and in the ensuing years. My family had a connection to the disaster.

[@vickytsaga7414]

I also remember that in the 1953 titanic movie, there was a small dentination around the 4th funnel.

[@JonathanMoosey]

Using stock footage was probably the option the filmmakers had at the time. Building another full size Titanic model would have been cost prohibitive and there of course was no CGI at the time.

[@hegstad9]

I love you're channel and have watched a great deal of your videos. Decades ago, I watched ""A Night to Remember" (1958) and "Raise the Titanic" (1980) the same evening, on a double bill in the cinema in Norway. I liked both movies, but had my doubts that raising the wreck would be anything but a fantasy in real life. Of course, the discovery of the wreck didn't come about before another five years. I would like to share a fact you may not be familiar with : I think we now can be grateful that producer David O. Selznick changed his mind ! In 1939 when he invited British director Alfred Hitchcock from Britain to Hollywood ~ it was originally to make a film of ~ "Titanic" ~ but he changed his mind and had Hitchcock instead make the great "Rebecca" (1940). Who knows what a Titanic movie would look like in 1940 ? Hitchcock did make the war movie "Lifeboat" (1944) ~ (plot : Several survivors of a torpedoed merchant ship in World War II find themselves in the same lifeboat with one of the crew members of the U-boat that sank their ship.) NB : One cannot miss the fact that start Tallulah Bankhead's clothes and hair remained as they had been on the ship ~ throughout the entire ordeal on the lifeboat ~ while the others get dirty ...

[@BrianKliewer]

I like both Cameron's 1997 version and A Night to Remember. The only real problem I have with Cameron's is the gunplay involving Jack and Rose. Over the top IMHO.