Is a Windows/Android HYBRID laptop worth it? (Lenovo ThinkBook Plus Gen 5 Hybrid REVIEW)

[@Fred-zk3wv]

I would definitely buy one if it was around $1500. I have always been a Windows and android fan and two for one is perfect for me.

[@wilsonbotlero2363]

That's something I'd absolutely buy if the price was right. $3500 is nowhere worth what it is offering.

[@dockill8591]

500 dollar for that... Yes I will buy one

[@TheZaman_]

@@dockill8591 even phone cost more than that

[@joelconolly5574]

Price of technology.

[@SoCoolCurt]

They changed the price to what was originally announced. It's $2,040.44 on Lenovo's website now.

[@farishanafiah8461]

​@@dockill8591Only with low-end CPU.

[@heygodwine]

I really hope Lenovo keeps making this product. I was initially planning to get the Yoga 9i 2-in-1 but if I'm being honest with myself, this product solves a very big need for me...just not at this price point. If it were closer to $1,800, then yeah, big steal. Also, this feels like a first-genit was a product (albeit a good and solid first-gen product). Let's see what happens next year. Hopefully a better SoC for the Android side, a better webcam and better continuity features.

[@Limmosee]

It has been seen before, but it's about 10 years ago, with Asus Transformer Book Duet TD300 tablet/laptop , That were running Android in the Screen and Windows 8.1 in the Keyboard 🙂

[@Xi_Pooh_Shill]

It kinda make sense before. But now, you can run Android apps on Windows, and you can also run Android emulators. And then you can dual boot Android if you can find compatible ROMs or OS.

[@MyCami95]

@@Xi_Pooh_Shill Android apps on Windows is getting deprecated next year, I believe

[@Xi_Pooh_Shill]

@@MyCami95 I don't understand why they are removing it. Although I don't have android apps installed on my windows machine, it could come in handy someday.

[@MyCami95]

@@Xi_Pooh_Shill it was a pretty poor implementation, either you install from Amazon Appstore, which is very subpar, or sideloading is complex. I wish Google and Microsoft collaborated more on this kind of stuff, but Google has ChromeOS to push

[@FireWall.]

Yes, the video is still on this channel.

[@v808]

This approach has been long overdue, and with Qualcomm’s progress on the X Elite and 8 Elite, I hope it finally takes off in coming years. Microsoft was ahead of its time with the Surface Book, but never fully committed to the idea. I have high hopes for this one.

[@TommyCrosby]

This would be a nice feature for Framework laptop with a replaceable Android motherboard in the screen.

[@themedleb]

I'm waiting for them to add touchscreen first.

[@saintriley6702]

The idea and execution is interesting. Price makes me gag though. I get that it's literally two devices, but still...

[@reintgenrc]

The price of that thing is completely nuts.

[@howtowindows11]

Interested, if it's regular price could have been 1800 dollars. Then it's a killer product.

[@vickie_g]

Its a great value for 2000$. Its not for me but i know people who would love this.

[@Hosanie88]

Good idea. I wish is was windows and chrome os. That way you still get the play store and years of support.

[@adinnugroho6544]

This concept is like how Server Computer works or Dual boot system 😅. Although it's different

[@s6t_aa]

That's some high quality innovation

[@drexappeal]

Been waiting for a device like this for years, since Microsoft initially blocked any devices from releasing devices that were hybrid (there was a Samsung laptop that got blocked, several years back). Glad that OEM's haven't completely thrown out the idea. Hope they all continue to find a way to have both worlds. I'd gladly take a laptop/tablet combined, even if it means that the updates to the next version of Android aren't there. My tendency to update my tablet/laptops extends several years beyond how often I'd upgrade my phone, so a hybrid tablet/laptop that had both a powerful Intel processor for the windows portion and strong Qualcomm (or equivalent) for the Android portion. I just hope all the other OEM's think so too. Competition will help drive the interest and pricing down.

[@davidbrown6878]

I have to agree with his conclusion that you would be better buying them separately.

[@farishanafiah8461]

This is literally two separate device. You can attach the screen back to the base and have a normal Windows laptop again.

[@TheAdammantium]

For US buyers, it's already on discount to 2k-ish! I'm not a US customer but I've been following updates on the product almost daily - waiting of it to be available where I live (Singapore). So please purchase it so it'll not scare Lenovo to not release it here! I want it so badly!

[@superiortoall22]

That’s horrible, means that it’s a fast depreciating product. If a person were to buy it at $2000, it’ll be near worthless in the next year.

[@TheAdammantium]

@@superiortoall22 Hmmm I don't see it as depreciating but more of market adjustment. Perhaps they are swaying in accordance to the gripes people has had with the product - it's price. All news outlets share the same issue, even the comments. Besides, I wouldn't be purchasing this item to resell later on. I foresee it as a long-term device. However, to each their own.

[@superiortoall22]

@@TheAdammantium nah market adjustment would be adjusting the price on the next iteration based on sales of this product, depreciation is the fall of the price on the current model. It’s not hitting the shareholders expectation in sales. And yeah, I guess you’re locked in if you’re going to spend $3500 that depreciates fast. I guess I rather buy something still worth trading in or selling in a few years. I guess people think differently.

[@Frank-vo9xo]

People were moaning and groaning about paying $2,040 so they raised it up to 3500 and then guess what soon as they launched it they dropped it back down to 2040 and now nobody's complaining I bought one myself for Christmas

[@SoCoolCurt]

Yeah those MFers knew what they were doing. Got me too. Waited so long I got impatient plus my old laptop was dying Other than an awful experience with Lenovo customer service and UPS, the unit has been great.

[@MalyePov]

😆

[@NicholasWongCQ]

I would rather get a separate tablet which could also function as a second screen for the laptop.

[@HeadsetHistorian]

This makes far more sense

[@SoCoolCurt]

More money but they do make portable monitors with touchscreens that interface through USB c. Not exactly the same but functionally similar.

[@muhammadsaqibabbas2060]

Wow.Whats an incredible laptop.I like it.I think it's a gaming laptop

[@farishanafiah8461]

This is basically a modern day Microsoft Surface Book but with a nod to the decade-old Asus Transformer Book hybrid. I definitely would love to own this hybrid, even though a cheaper option with less powerful Windows CPU would be a welcome addition. What would be a true killer feature is the ability to boot the Windows partition on the base directly to a secondary screen á la Raspberry Pi400.

[@hasanrworld]

Love the idea would definitely buy this when available. The battery issue the tablet usb c should be on the side.

[@VinceCannavaII]

I'd love to see a video of the meeting where they thought this price point was a good idea.. 🤯

[@ChiTwnKid96]

for that price i wish it came with the Snapdragon X elite or plus

[@BrenoBP]

I very much like this product. The cost is high tho

[@AnuragKumar380]

Could be a great deal in the future once continuity is improved

[@ariel_chess]

All detatchable 2 in 1 fail to have a good experience for both ways of using it. This one makes sure you always get the os that has the best experience. Good idea, but weird.

[@nyogrson1]

This is perfect ----price has already been cut

[@reubendias18]

Does anyone here remember the Samsung Ativ Q? Back in the day when the Windows home button could switch between Windows 8 and Android.

[@userre85]

Asus released something similar a decade ago. It was called the ASUS Transformer Book Duet TD300. Google forced them to shut it down.

[@marvinochieng6295]

That framework company should do this

[@wolfgangllanza160]

This is what iPad fans want. An iPad that can be connected to a keyboard that turns it into a MacBook. But if it's this expensive for windows plus android, if Apple does this, it might be even more expensive than the Vision Pro.

[@jebaker2]

I appreciate companies that innovate and I hope Lenovo is rewarded for it. However, I see no point to this device. 😢

[@KaunHeBeTu]

Lenovo just released a chart-leading Apple product - Overpriced, and outdated. 3500$. A great touchscreen Windows Laptop, like ZenBook OLED (Core Ultra 7 155H, 32GB RAM), costs just 1300$. A top-notch Android Tablet like Galaxy Tab S9+ costs just 800$. They're the best, of the best. The Android specs are outright bad for a "premium" device, plus this lacks 120Hz which both, the Tab S9+, and ZenBook OLED offer! This doesn't even offer LTE/5G connectivity! Man this would've been a cult classic, most successful even Apple MacPad Pro Max shattering sales records of every product ever. Although one thing Apple would definitely do better is what you mentioned - Choosing which OS to choose when connected.

[@eheboi9278]

If apple does this they could really pull it off on the continuity side of things since they already have a great ecosystem

[@Frank-vo9xo]

At 2040 I think that's a great deal cuz I was going to get me a new computer and was about 1600 and then if I bought the S9 Ultra 14 inch you're looking at at least $1,000 so it saves me almost $ 5 5

[@joelconolly5574]

Yes we know. Price is insane. But it's pretty cool nonetheless. The price of tech is insane.

[@marvinochieng6295]

This is something i want.

[@EmyNN]

1. I need a numpad. 2. For that price, I'd get teo devices like you mentioned. It's just better. That way I separate work and pleasure.

[@evelinecarolinelienhuaming1184]

This is What I Waiting for!!! Lenovo is the King of Innovation Yay!!! 👍🏻🤠👍🏻

[@Dominus_Potatus]

Imagine dual boot Android and Windows with Snapdragon X Plus

[@deekaythewhitewashedindian]

could use syncthings to sync between the tablet and pc together

[@AndroidAuthority]

SyncThings for Android is unfortunately shutting down: forum.syncthing.net/t/discontinuing-syncthing-android/23002

[@Dhilip135]

I just want the system to have Snapdragon X Elite

[@kirby21-xz4rx]

Fr it would have been so so much better to use that and just have windows and android dual boot as that's a arm chip would have been so much easier and cheaper without needing 2 different systems and processors

[@TerraEmperor1]

The price immediately kills it for me

[@Herrowpries]

This solves a desperately needed niche right now. Tablets are too watered down (OS-wise) to be laptop replacements. Laptops aren't watered down and mobile to be a quick tablet replacement. Windows missed such a big opportunity to be the go-to in between but their surface tablets aren't tablet-y enough. Apple has the opportunity to fill this niche by allowing iPads to run mac apps, but they won't because... profits. I just want a device I can do heavy photoshop workloads on and then also just take to the gym to watch Netflix on the treadmill.

[@hilmyakatsuki1665]

Tbh, they could just use Qualcomm x elite and dual boot android/windows for ARM. Actually I want full UEFI GUI on arm laptops with directly booting different OS just like x86. Then we can have android dual boot for things like watching movies, mobile games and do mobile stuff while windows/linux for actual work. Microsoft killing android subsystem is a bad decision just because they didn't wanted android apps to ve optimized for desktop environment( freeform windows, better UI scaling) which would mean less windows app optimizations or even buildings new apps targeting windows. For example macOS have apps built targeted specifically macOS which is different from ipad OS while windows just gets web app which is not optimized for performance in mind. You will find this true for many apps. Hence Microsoft killed android support so that companies won't just invest on Android apps optimizations rather than creating new apps targeted to windows ARM.

[@kirby21-xz4rx]

Exactly my thoughts dude it would have been so so much easier and cheaper to use the x elite and dual boot instead of using a x86 and arm processor separately they just dont match at all 😂

[@kirby21-xz4rx]

Also I think that was a good call as I rather have devs optimize native windows on arm apps instead of relying on android subsystem to scale up on windows

[@hilmyakatsuki1665]

@@kirby21-xz4rx also google into scalable apps that have different UI for different screen types and can be resized. They already made a gallery on Android devs website to showcase different possible scenarios

[@adambirkholtz2062]

Anyone else thinking it would be cool to be able to buy just the keyboard portion and connect it to an external monitor like bread box/keyboard wedge computers of old?

[@MrPrankUser]

3.500$ is insane, u can get a rtx 4090 laptop or a macbook for this price.

[@raymartbenjamin1538]

yes but i think you miss the point of having this set up, you buy this for the set up not for the performance

[@MrPrankUser]

@@raymartbenjamin1538 3.500$ for that is insane bro

[@r3d0c]

@@raymartbenjamin1538 products like these are usually the worst of both worlds, plus depends on proprietary closed source software tightly bound to the hardware on a lower level & made for one niche product so gonna have terrible long term support

[@bishimback]

@@raymartbenjamin1538 what does that even mean?

[@IsiahHD]

A MacBook and iPad, which will both have a more reliable update cycle. Or a Samsung Galaxy Book and Tab S10 (or whichever).

[@martineri2000]

I would be worried about the android update support and what happens when u need to get a new battery ? Will it have enoughr supprt ?

[@Internalview44]

Ich liebe dieses laptop wo kann ich kaufen

[@HeadsetHistorian]

I see absolutely no reason for this tbh, what can I do better on an android tablet than windows? All I can think is the UI is nicer on android for the touch interface. I like to see more options for people, so awesome that this exists. I just can't think of a single reason to want or need this. I would much prefer a windows laptop with touchscreen that flips 180 to act like a tablet.

[@kirby21-xz4rx]

Exactly Or a surface pro where it's a 2 in 1 tablet and laptop when keyboard attached

[@aes1373]

Wait, is the battery capacity overall lower than 100whr? If not, you can fly with this no?

[@nizaramanchar8735]

So replacing the screen is as expensive as getting a flagship tablet x); well, what can I say? I wish money could grow on trees.

[@KanakaBhaswaraPrabhata]

i'd rather use 2 in 1 laptop, and run android emulator inside, or maybe dual boot. i don't see i would need Android tablet and a Laptop at the same time. And with Link to Windows, i could sorta run android apps by mirroring my phone. what i really want is a ANDROID PHONE that if connected to a display, it would BOOT WINDOWS on ARM. That would be the Ultimate DeX considering Windows on ARM are more and more viable for pretty much all usage

[@kirby21-xz4rx]

Exactly You know what the sad part is they could have done it all they had to do was use the snapdragon x elite 😭

[@Xi_Pooh_Shill]

I dunno how Android could be useful for work, especially if you already have Windows (and probably install other OS like linux). For media consumption and light gaming maybe, but can also do that in Windows. BTW, this is a redo of Asus Transformer (Duo) from 10 years ago.

[@tk.pabloyt]

Is gyroscope available?

[@hectorramirez9251]

nice Chromebook

[@ariel_chess]

It has windows...

[@ilyamakarchuk]

When there is Surface Pro and you can have both a laptop and a tablet in a single device without having to fiddle with managing two OSes and syncing between them, this machine just doesn't make any sense.

[@JunaidHasan23]

Make the display foldable then you can use it as a phone too.

[@Frank-vo9xo]

You also left out the six speakers

[@ardinugraha_]

It would be great if the tablet run chrome os, it just my opinion

[@tyrannosaurus_wex]

It's a surface pro ?

[@Hduej-tr4vy]

reminds me of surface book

[@AndroidAuthority]

The Surface Book was great! I wish Microsoft brought it back.

[@kirby21-xz4rx]

This is so cool 😂

[@adfjasjhf]

The solution to Android for this use case was WSL which microsoft basically killed. Very unfortunate. No such devices would be needed even though it is a cool concept.

[@HeadsetHistorian]

WSL has not been killed whatsoever. Are you thinking of the native Android app support for Windows? That has been killed but WSL is not going anywhere.

[@adfjasjhf]

@@HeadsetHistorian Yes you are right however if I remember correctly, the native support was done through WSL anyway. So the Android WSL part has been killed but not the Linux WSL part

[@Unan1mouz]

I'll stick with my separate Android tablet and Windows laptop. lol

[@neerkum5428]

Couldn't u already run all android apps on windows?

[@AndroidAuthority]

You can run Android apps in an emulation environment, yes. But this is running them natively.

[@DjangoGroen]

If I run Ubuntu or any other Linux based OS. Can I still switch from that to android?

[@ValorZeroAdvent]

with Waydroid you can run Android over Linux

[@yoppindia]

naaaa

[@TerraEmperor1]

*THICK* BOOK

[@nickthaskater]

Literally makes no sense whatsoever. You can just use the Your Phone application to stream Android apps from your phone if you *really* need to use Android apps. Good luck getting Android updates, too. Lenovo is a complete joke at supporting niche devices like this for more than a year or two.

[@AndrewNorton89]

I want a Samsung tablet with an s pen that runs chrome os

[@kirby21-xz4rx]

Samsung dex is better than chrome os in every way if I wanted something else desktop It would be actual windows or Linux not ChromeOS trash that took everything that was good about Linux out😅

[@AndrewNorton89]

@@kirby21-xz4rx thanks for the helpful comment. Love chrome os. Not a fan of Dex. I use both

[@needleontherecord]

Make it a Linux desktop and Android tablet and now you are talking

[@cenationofjnu]

Yes but it's not worth the price.

[@bishimback]

2013 called, it wants its chin back.

[@francisatta5590]

Snapdragon chip that's behind for that price? Who's advising lennovo? He should be fired!!!

[@matthewmeuleman9872]

samsung make the same thing

[@Drado220]

Lol £1150 right now in UK

[@madhavdhilip]

The surface pro already exists. Android is unnecessary when windows 11 is already good enough for a tablet experience.

[@zlee2656]

hell yeah is the answer to that ! and i basiacalky need some devices with sim capabilitiea can make calle insternet and all in one and i cant do my office works. so hell yes no need to spemd extra on iphone for god sake. its 2025 almost. still dumb technology. with nonsupport of 120 display.

[@Chard9463]

Windows, especially the Spyware, Malware and Adware disguised as an operating system called Windows 11? No thanks. 😂😂 I'd rather use Linux or **shudders** MacOS than the hot garbage called Windows 11.

[@vkAwesomee]

macos👀

[@BeardofBeesPool]

I also use Linux.. Mostly Kali Linux.. You do know modded version of Windows exist with all the spyware and bloat taken out? I use Windows Ghost Specter for.. I'll never use Linux for gaming, also Wine doesn't even work sometimes.. 🤮🤮🤮

[@BeardofBeesPool]

@@ariel_chess I never paid for a copy of windows since XP. hahaha it's already redundant people mention spyware because everyone has a smartphone. Everyone commenting has a Google account.

[@ariel_chess]

@@BeardofBeesPool ok

[@notchipotle]

60hz display will make me puke blood and die, should be illegal on anything other than smartwatch