Is Alpha M Wrong To Say Omega Is A Ripoff? Or Is It The Best Value Swiss Luxury Watch Brand In 2023?

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The Urban Gentry

The Urban Gentry

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@ajgs97
@ajgs97 Жыл бұрын
I came here first due to alpha M, from all his shortcomings, he really tries to improve and learn. And when it comes to watches, there is no one I respect more than you TGV! Cheers
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Alex, you are too kind. He is indeed a true gent and always helping people, he certainly changed my life for the better, many times and I am so happy to hear it was through him you found my channel. Onwards and ever upwards my friend! Best regards, TGV
@MisterKnightly
@MisterKnightly Жыл бұрын
Yeah man, I actually respect Alpha M and all he does. But even he needs a helping hand with some knowledge.
@whatsgoodmyguy4391
@whatsgoodmyguy4391 Жыл бұрын
No he's not wrong Rolex is a ripoff too, sadly they work together as compared to Rolex Omega is a bargain
@Ex.zed.
@Ex.zed. Жыл бұрын
😂 😂 😂
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 Жыл бұрын
@@theurbangentry What is the film featured in the intro
@leodare101
@leodare101 Жыл бұрын
Alpha M is entitled to his wrong opinion 😂
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏 Good one, thank you. Best regards, TGV
@barrettwbenton
@barrettwbenton Жыл бұрын
​@@theurbangentry I endorse this understated response.
@cashau2965
@cashau2965 Жыл бұрын
....and surely he exercises his entitlement a lot 😂😂😂....
@ilmostro16
@ilmostro16 Жыл бұрын
I think it was the crazy collector guy who mentioned that if you ask most Rolex wearers to tell you about their Rolex, all they know is the cost and the value and nothing else. It’s more flex culture now than anything.
@astroboirap
@astroboirap Жыл бұрын
Alpha M... the M is short for MVMT, cos he shills for them
@andrewkerr6717
@andrewkerr6717 Жыл бұрын
My great grandfather's Omega 19 movement pocket watch from 1900 still looks great, runs fine and is still servicable. If I can get a 120 year old watch serviced that means my current Omegas are great values.
@mixodorians12
@mixodorians12 Жыл бұрын
Yeah and trigger had a brand new broom for 30 years... How do you know the movement wasn't replaced a few times, incrementally?
@benjaminbarrera214
@benjaminbarrera214 Жыл бұрын
Not really, because Swatch Group will not sell parts to independent watchmakers. When the watch needs to be serviced, you get to pay the AD price. Make sure you save up for that.
@HRM.H
@HRM.H Жыл бұрын
Lmao what...? 😂
@StruanRobertson29
@StruanRobertson29 Жыл бұрын
The movemenenrs are good...but the prices of the new watches are a joke
@terryl7749
@terryl7749 Жыл бұрын
@@benjaminbarrera214 They try to get you to buy a new watch rather than sell you parts. My dad had a 1950s Omega Seamaster that he was gifted for his wedding 40 years ago. Unfortunately it had a non Omega crown. His scheming independent watchmaker replaced the crown and bracelet with generic parts & kept the originals 20 years ago after a service. So I tried to restore it back to original. I took the watch to an Omega boutique and asked for a replacement crown. They told me I had to put the watch in for an entire service for $1100 in order to receive new parts. They knew damn well the watch wasn't worth servicing so they try to sell me a new Seamaster. NEVER again have I walked back into an Omega boutique. I sold my entire collection of 10 Omegas after that. Ironically my brother bought a cheap plastic MoonSwatch and recently visited the Omega boutique and they happily sold him a $270 nato strap.
@MisterKnightly
@MisterKnightly Жыл бұрын
Alpha M? Wrong about something? No way!
@andrewthomason3857
@andrewthomason3857 Жыл бұрын
I can’t even guess how many hours went into this. The production design and editing are amazing. Salute to everyone who was involved.
@mixodorians12
@mixodorians12 Жыл бұрын
It must be worth it for him to create theee narratives.
@DavidDatura
@DavidDatura Жыл бұрын
I concur 👍
@dragan796
@dragan796 Жыл бұрын
I always appreciated the fact that your content is educational and explains what is behind a certain opinion you have. Its genuine. The Urban Gentry is what got me seriously into watches and 5 years later still the number 1 watch channel for me
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry Жыл бұрын
You just made my day. Thank you, onwards and upwards! Best regards, TGV
@bobhob35
@bobhob35 Жыл бұрын
@@theurbangentry If it wasn't for you I never would have bought my first watch a Squale Militare, which I love dearly and do use for watersports (the mother-in-law is a swimming instructor). I've since had my grandfather's 33mm Cornavin triple calendar restored which brings me great pleasure to wear on its old Smiths bracelet; far more than any brand-new gold Rolex ever could. Watches are far more than investments to be flipped for a profit they provide a link to our past and a guide to future generations.
@IlluminatingWatches
@IlluminatingWatches Жыл бұрын
Oh my lord - nearly fell out my chair there with the mention. Thanks so much! On the video topic itself, despite Omega being more of an analog brand - they made my two favourite digital watches - the Omega Equinoxe (you’d love the two tone version) and the first gen X-33. Bit more inclusive for us explorers and you wouldn’t get that with Rolex or Patek!
@jimmccaig7946
@jimmccaig7946 Жыл бұрын
The equinoxe??? I must delve into that. The X33, superb, saw a full set in the UK for 2.6K. Tempting.
@mattys1467
@mattys1467 Жыл бұрын
It is so satisfying to watch true, well thought out, properly articulated analysis. When you see some of the 'drama' being introduced into the watch world you know something is amiss. It is so unnecessary and, frankly, vulgar, but a clear consequence of the drive and desire for money that sits behind so much of the watch content nowadays. True, independent, enthusiast or collector driven content is what inspires me. Thank you TGV 👏
@TheMikey1865
@TheMikey1865 Жыл бұрын
For me Omega isn't about status,but a love I have for the brand. I gave my pre bond seamaster to my son for a graduation gift. After 20 years I finally had the opportunity to replace it with a master chronometer seamaster 300. I love the watch and what it means to me is more than what I paid.
@steelsteez6118
@steelsteez6118 Жыл бұрын
Not just for you, but for everybody else. Omega has never been associated with status and that's what I absolutely love about the brand.
@andrewmccann2700
@andrewmccann2700 Жыл бұрын
Another thing to note is alpha m is conveniently forgetting that Rolexes used to go down in value after purchase. Now that ADs are selling to gray market dealers and flippers, the fake scarcity is driving prices up. By his logic, a BMW M3 is an overpriced car since it loses value.
@jeremypitotti6654
@jeremypitotti6654 Жыл бұрын
Great content that puts the record straight!! I’m a Rolex owner and through the years have owned many. Omega was my first love and remains so, my Speedy was my first important watch and I hid the fact that I’d bought it from my parents. However my mum saw it on my wrist and said that’s new isn’t it ? … on me informing them that it was an Omega a silence of respect descended in the room.
@benmironmd
@benmironmd Жыл бұрын
The cinematography of TGV is hitting new highs 👏
@johnviano4584
@johnviano4584 Жыл бұрын
Hi TGV, It always comes back to personal opinion, doesn't it? 😊 I will always have pride in my Speedy and 1954 Seamaster DeVille. Thanks again for introducing me to the world of watches so many years ago. The passion lives on my friend. Best regards, John
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry Жыл бұрын
🙌🙌🙌🙌 Grazie mille John, it certainly does. As always, happy to see you in the comments, your loyal support means the world to me. Onwards, ever upwards and Buona pasqua! Best regards, TGV
@UNIONFEATURES
@UNIONFEATURES Жыл бұрын
I genuinely love the production quality of TGV's videos.
@benjaminbarrera214
@benjaminbarrera214 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reminder to choose our watches based on our own personality and style. People buy watches as status symbols, because of FOMO, hype, etc., miss an opportunity to express themselves. Not just with watches, but our clothes, cars, shoes, music, movies...any sort of personal choice. To make these decisions for the right reasons, we find out what our personality and style is really like, and we have learned something about ourselves!
@bronco1199
@bronco1199 Жыл бұрын
As a proud "cat guy" I approve that intro. IMO Omega is pretty good bang for buck. Especially pre-owned 👌
@Snappydadshoes
@Snappydadshoes Жыл бұрын
Interestingly, Rolex is the only watch I've ever sold. I had a 6 digit, blue dial Yachmaster. It just wasn't worth it. I still have my Planet Ocean, Tudor, 2 Longines, Nomos and one Hamilton. Most people own Rolex only to try and impress others. They're great watches. They also attract tons of douchebags.
@JAY61ish
@JAY61ish Жыл бұрын
And Theives! 😢
@davidr2802
@davidr2802 Жыл бұрын
The thing that is great about most Omega owners on the KZbin comment sections is they're lazy thinkers. No, I take that back. They love to think in cliches because it makes them feel better that the brand they love is simply not as desirable as a Rolex. So, what do they do? They cast the same ad hominem attacks on total strangers who desire or own a Rolex for WHATSOVER reason. Note, before you come at me with the usual cliched attack lines, i did not say Rolex was better I simply said it is more desirable in the marketplace. And that is not opinion, it is simply a matter of economic reality. And before you get back on your Omega high horse just take a look in the mirror and ask yourself was the last moonswatch roll out the act of a company that has absolutely no interest in generating Rolex like hype? I would if my market share was less 1/3 of the big dog and falling. And I say all this as someone who owns amongst other pieces a Planet Ocean Tokyo 2020 LE and a 1962 Constellation and who could care less what other people own nor why.
@ReverendMeat51
@ReverendMeat51 Жыл бұрын
@@davidr2802 You seem upset.
@thorodinson376
@thorodinson376 Жыл бұрын
​@david r the fact that anyone gives a shit about what others desire when they think about what they put on their body is pathetic. Problem is, that's most Rolex fan boys. I don't choose my suglasses or shoes based off others desires. Or I would have ugly shit Chinese made shoes and the same shit sunglasses popular on Instagram. I don't choose or wear watches based on others or their resale so that logic doesn't make alot of sense.
@patrickjean-philippe7679
@patrickjean-philippe7679 Жыл бұрын
Keep cool mate !
@Erick925
@Erick925 Жыл бұрын
“You vote with your time”, well said TGV. Fantastic video 👏🏽
@CarlosTorres-xk2yg
@CarlosTorres-xk2yg Жыл бұрын
I’ll chose OMEGA over a “rolex” any day!!!!!!!!
@chaosad4508
@chaosad4508 Жыл бұрын
Who cares
@peterrayner3707
@peterrayner3707 Жыл бұрын
What makes you happy Personally, I prefer Rolex. Many other brands at fraction of the price is just as enjoyable.
@lonewolfemcquade8133
@lonewolfemcquade8133 Жыл бұрын
I owned Omega and still own two Rolex and I find Rolex alot more comfortable and wear better
@Zotrax1946
@Zotrax1946 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this one immensely! I own an Omega Seamaster Electronic 300hz from 1971, an heirloom from my late father. It is such a unique watch, the design and the movement! And it is THICK and ROUND and I love it!!!
@gigamoment
@gigamoment Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: I personally asked Omega about its name origin. Omega is a greek word, it is actually the last letter in the greek alphabet (Ω) and it symbolizes "The perfection" "The greatness" and "The end of the journey". It literally means "great O" (Omega = "O, the mega"), and as you can see it is written as "O" sitting on a throne "Ω" :)
@alexmckenzie42
@alexmckenzie42 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised it it was linguistically related to the Indian "Om" or "Aum", which in turn is connected to the Christian "Amen", I believe.
@gigamoment
@gigamoment Жыл бұрын
@@alexmckenzie42 I don't think it's connected with that words at all. In fact it seems like it's an ancient word appeared a lot earlier than Christianity did. This word is made of two parts, the letter "O" which is called "Omicron" and the word "Mega" which means as "Great". So you can write it as "Mega omicron", meaning "Great omicron", or "Mega O", or simply "Omega", as Greek language tends to be laconic.
@MrDukeOmega
@MrDukeOmega Жыл бұрын
You Americans, are the stupidest people in the world, you guys are idiots! How did you not know this already? You guys are religious freaks, in the Bible “ I am the Alpha and Omega” beginning and end! Alpha first letter in the Greek alphabet and omega the last….. Man go study for god sake!
@j0nnyism
@j0nnyism Жыл бұрын
As opposed to omicron which is little o. A nice way of explaining how pronouncing the words vary
@shiraz1736
@shiraz1736 Жыл бұрын
@@alexmckenzie42 yea nah.
@Reviews4fun1
@Reviews4fun1 Жыл бұрын
I have never heard of the self-declared “super expert” D-bag you referenced here but I’ve been following you for a while and you’re dropping some truth bombs here. I have several Rolex but my Seamaster 300m chronograph is my favorite of them all. Omega is excellent (except when they collab for a plastic Swatch)
@benjaminbarrera214
@benjaminbarrera214 Жыл бұрын
How is he a d-bag? Just because he brags about how successful he is? Or maybe you don't like the way he yells? The louder he talks, the more correct he must be, obviously.
@mrmyc0rn840
@mrmyc0rn840 Жыл бұрын
You should look up the video where that douche tries to make MVMNT out to be superior to Rolex. He's a joke.
@barrycolmer324
@barrycolmer324 Жыл бұрын
I have to concur with Andrew here and I have said this probably more than once, but TGV, you really are streets above anyone else as an 'influencer' lol. I enjoy quite a few fellow influencers, but you stand out still. I think it comes down to being genuine, authentic and honest in your work. I do not see anyone come close to you in the content you produce. Sometimes I get a little excited and need a reality check and you help with this. Help me breathe and take stock of it all. I have always loved watches, but got real serious around 5 years ago and you were the first I took to. Keep up the great work and thank you.
@inlandwatchreviews5745
@inlandwatchreviews5745 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video. I am wearing my omega Seamaster aqua terra annual calendar. I’ve decided that for the cost this is the top of the line watch for me. I just traded a Tudor BB 41 blue dial for a 2016 Omega Seamaster aqua terra quartz, this watch was given to the US Olympic team for the Rio Olympics. To me my collection is complete. I am happy with each watch.
@taham33
@taham33 Жыл бұрын
tgv vs alpha male is the feud I needed
@ElusiveMasquerade
@ElusiveMasquerade Жыл бұрын
My first luxury watch was an Omega Seamaster 300m. I bought it because I love how it makes me feel. The watch is special to me and I will always love it for a multitude of reasons.
@patricklgreen
@patricklgreen Жыл бұрын
This may be my favorite intro you've done thus far. I really appreciate your perspective on Alpha M. It is important to humanize and remember the content creators are more than just their content and even if their content is not our cup of tea, we can still be kind and know there is a person who maybe helps other content creators that I appreciate. There was a time I needed black dress shows and my wingtips had fallen in disrepair and money was tight. A youtuber similar to Alpha M's channel had a great tutorial on how to repair, clean, condition and restore my shoes. Anyway, as always, thank you for the research you do, the quality of content you deliver, the thoughtful and enriching perspective, and the constant call to kindness in all things with all those we encounter.
@dHybrid_351
@dHybrid_351 Жыл бұрын
Despite, the collection of Citizens watches and one Seiko, I would love to own an Omega someday... Mr. Gentry sir, your respect and your vibes are so gentlemen and so darn Humble! ❤ Your inspiration has blossomed my watch collection and knowledge as well. Thank you, good sir. Much love and good vibes ✨️
@jacobtaylor7506
@jacobtaylor7506 Жыл бұрын
You will love Omega watches. Got lucky and scored me a CK859 and it was my first Omega. Now looking at a Seiko Premier.
@bogospel
@bogospel Жыл бұрын
thanks to this channel i started to be intersted in watches, particular Seiko. I bought a SKX007, modded it and then sold it for a small profit, then bought a SARB035 and sold it after 1 year for the same money, then bought a prospex alpinist and sold it for a profit after 1 year. I enjoy watches just don t fancy collecting many. I will never ever buy a watch just for status. TGV, you are pure class!
@TheJlrc07
@TheJlrc07 Жыл бұрын
Great video at the end I will take an Omega over the Rolex any day of the week and twice on Sunday Bye the way I have owned 4 Omegas in my 60 years of age Keep the good work
@MyVideosWillCalmU
@MyVideosWillCalmU Жыл бұрын
The intro alone I watched twice🤣 your video is on a different level. Can we appreciate the time took to do these. Well done Broski and I appreciate you to this day man, if it wasn't for you. With the state of this current watch circles and channels, I wouldn't even be watching! Then I see a TVG notification. And then I remember there's still hope.🤣👊🏾
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry Жыл бұрын
Hello old friend. If I do another London event, please say you will attend, it would be great to finally meet you. I appreciate you too. It's late here in Philly, but this comment was a great way to end my night. Thank you as always my friend, stay safe out there. O&U! T.
@MyVideosWillCalmU
@MyVideosWillCalmU Жыл бұрын
@@theurbangentry Brother it will be a pleasure, Iam going to hit you up on the gram an exchange details bro 😎👊🏾
@joeyclamz2408
@joeyclamz2408 Жыл бұрын
I was about to erupt in a slew of pedestrian aspersions and you reminded me of the importance of being a gentleman. Thanks for being the voice of reason and excellence!
@DarrenBates
@DarrenBates Жыл бұрын
What a great video. Needless to say, I agree with most of it. I do think that the Aqua Terra pricing is slightly out of sync in its own range (being significantly more expensive than say, the Seamaster Professional 300), but that's one single watch in the brand and not the brand itself. You're at the top of your game now TGV!
@gregtomaszewski563
@gregtomaszewski563 8 ай бұрын
You are not wrong about Aqua Terra, hover i am guy who got new IWC Ingenieur and do not care that it is as badly priced as Aqua Terra. Hehehe
@drybrusheverything3034
@drybrusheverything3034 Жыл бұрын
I actually found TGV about 8 or 9 years ago through Alpha M. I was also one of the first in the Facebook group. I bought my grail last week, my first Rolex Submariner. I saw this from Alpha and had a good chuckle, as I do at most of his hilarious takes.
@Lamattack
@Lamattack Жыл бұрын
Omg this intro is wild! Another banger from TGV!
@Fret-knot
@Fret-knot Жыл бұрын
The intros to these videos are some of the best I've seen on KZbin. The editing and humour are always top notch i.m.o. These elements are always of consistent quality, much like the content 👍🏻
@SoCalWatchReviews
@SoCalWatchReviews Жыл бұрын
I respect Aaron, but a lot of times I don’t agree with his views/opinions. Thank you for the shout-out brother ❤ and Fluco straps are next level!
@rcmakingtracks18
@rcmakingtracks18 Жыл бұрын
Pure class. I love the idea of having a perfect piece of engineering on my wrist. That is why I spent my hard earned money on an Omega. Love it, not a single regret... makes me smile everytime I check the time... john
@MrMaliktanvir2002
@MrMaliktanvir2002 Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation and very true about the hype-driven Rolex enthusiasts on KZbin and elsewhere. Rolex comes nowhere near Omega. Like someone said, "Omega makes watches, Rolex sells them"
@GS-vb3zn
@GS-vb3zn Жыл бұрын
It’s surprising to me that Jody from Just One More Watch isn’t among the KZbin watch channels that you like and trust. I considered Jody to be one of the most straight up honest watch reviewers I’ve found in my 7+ years of exploring watch world on KZbin. And you are included in that group, BTW.
@jeffjacobson59
@jeffjacobson59 Жыл бұрын
Italian’s like their disses ice cold just like revenge
@brianmsahin
@brianmsahin Жыл бұрын
Some people are true reviewers of watches that represent the creme de le creme of knowledge and honesty. That can apply to watch reviewers whether in the affordable or luxury end of the market. TGV, you are an example of the best. I can only say that others are what we call "influencers". Influencers are on the lower rungs of the horological ladder. I tend not to pay any attention to them. I don't consider you an influencer, rather as an informer.....in the positive sense! I must admit that due to my careful choice of channels I follow, I've never even heard of this Aaron person. He would not come up to the standard of content I expect.
@paulkukula6541
@paulkukula6541 Жыл бұрын
Always love your content. I now have 13 watches. Don’t buy for anyone’s opinion or taste, other than my own. One Omega,that’s my favourite,given to me for my 21st birthday in 1985. Don’t know the dollar value,but absolutely love the sentiment. No one else’s opinion really matters. Keep up the great work & content. Thanks for being the 1st to really get me into collecting. Thanks,Paul.
@theshadowman1398
@theshadowman1398 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t that the same guy who was promoting Daniel Wellington / MVMT ? No way I would take anything he says seriously.
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry Жыл бұрын
Yes he did, but trust me, he has helped a lot of people and I consider him a great, inspiring person. I don't think he would promote something he didn't believe in. Even if that is a brand we obviously I don't agree on. But thank you, I appreciate the feedback. Best regards, TGV
@tailsfromthepast7432
@tailsfromthepast7432 Жыл бұрын
@@theurbangentry Im sorry, but he made the Video how mvmt are better watches with better heritage than Rolex. You cant actually think he believes in that
@Ex.zed.
@Ex.zed. Жыл бұрын
@@tailsfromthepast7432 Alpha M is a scam and would sell his own mother for money!
@chrispekel5709
@chrispekel5709 Жыл бұрын
​@@tailsfromthepast7432 of course he doesn't, but he doesn't want to be an asshole
@klausm5460
@klausm5460 Жыл бұрын
Very well put. To some amount I chose the Speedmaster as my first and for the time being only luxury watch because of the more restrained and relatively understated character of the brand compared to Rolex. I respect the quality of Rolex, but the brand name carries a lot of baggage and preconceptions in the public eye. And I´m glad that owning an Omega hasn´t diminished my enjoyment of my entry-level pieces like my very first Seiko 5 and also the Sinn 556i which I consider a mere classless watch given the robustess, unpretentious design and functionality-driven approach of the company. Keep following your own ideas - onwards, upwards and sometimes inwards. Cheers, Klaus
@WristwatchAddiction
@WristwatchAddiction Жыл бұрын
Never thought I would see a “Frasier” reference (my all time favorite sitcom) on the Gentry! Lol! Editing is STILL unmatched after all these years. Bravo for another well done video my friend 👍
@rorrt
@rorrt Жыл бұрын
To each's own.. But to me, the Speedy Moon Boy.. Looks stuuunnnnnning! And for the price! Same for the Master of the Sea Boy.. Again.. **chefs kiss** AND FOR THE PRICE!!! **looks like I need to change my trousers** I will say, for the Aquaterraboy.. The price doesn't QUITE line up with the complete range in my opinion.. It's a little more than the Master of the Sea Boy.... Last time I was bothered to check.. On the Rolex though.. If it's an investment you're after.. Buy a Rolex Boy. Fine. Get it.. Keep the flipping stickers on it, put it in a hermetically sealed box! Don't even BREATHE on it! I think any of those Omega offererings aren't so stupidly priced that you'd be scared to wear it, or to wear it hard..
@seattlegrrlie
@seattlegrrlie Жыл бұрын
It's a good point that most things we wear don't continue to have value. I don't expect my shoes to triple in price. Nor do I ever plan to sell my Rolex. I bought it because it is perfection and I love it.
@GU5S
@GU5S Жыл бұрын
Great video and informative response TGV. Lucky enough to own 3 Omegas and love them, fantastic watches that have comparative quality to Rolex but a brand that attracts far less douchebags to put it politely. There are many watches on my radar from JLC, Zenith, IWC and Longines to name just a few. But truthfully, there's only one Rolex I'd genuinely like to own some day, a GMT 2 Rootbeer. I just find the brand as a whole largely unappealing and far too much snobbery surrounding them. Despite the still very expensive prices, brands like Omega just feel more down to earth, the boutiques more approachable and the kind of customers they attract far less stuck up.
@ilmostro16
@ilmostro16 Жыл бұрын
Alpha M doesn’t understand the basics here - the only reason Rolex appreciates is because they are hard to get, because people are buying them up for their investment value, which causes them to be hard to get, which increases the investment value and so on. In other words, its a bubble. It might never burst, but still a bubble type thing - its only worth so much because its hard to get because its worth so much. There is no reason for a Rolex to be worth what it is beyond simply the lack of availability. There’s nothing technically better about his Yacht master than an Omega Seamaster. In fact, the Seamaster with the co-axial movement is arguably a much better watch from a horology perspective. But because its more available, the after purchase value isn’t over inflated. So you can only think the way Aaron thinks if you only see re-sale value as that which matters in things. That attitude, is in fact the only reason Rolex is so popular and hard to get today. And this is a terrible thing because in order for the watch to fall into this category of absurd price appreciation, it must be super difficult or impossible to get. That ruins the hobby. You want a Rolex today and you have the cash? Good luck lol. You have to wait for months or years. So glad this isn’t the case for Omega and many other great brands. Imagine a world where you can’t ever get the watch you want because of this obsession with investment value. There’s really nothing very special about what’s inside most Rolexes. That’s why they don’t show it to you on almost all their models besides a couple brand new ones recently released.
@joanjo8465
@joanjo8465 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making videos like this. A hug from Spain. Honestly, I love the way things are covered on this channel. This illusion with which watches are presented makes those of us who have this hobby even more...By the way, the integrations with Hugo are simply great! A hug and...keep going like this!!
@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR
@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR Жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved the keyboard warrior face pulled on this show!!!;) yeah I agree with you! You know the big Alpha is not coming from the same enthusiast perspective as us! His opinion would most probably be the majority view from all his subscribers!;) I’m starting to love Omega more and more as the years go by! But for me the best Omegas we’re made 50 years ago!!!;)
@bobhob35
@bobhob35 Жыл бұрын
I have to agree with you; as someone who is just starting to wear and collect vintage watches Omega is one of your best options regarding build quality and servicing/repairs.
@yonder_owls
@yonder_owls Жыл бұрын
Every modern or vintage Omega I've bought second-hand has actually appreciated. If you started collecting vintage Speedmasters 20 or 30 years ago, you could divest today for a nice profit. But if you only got into watches recently, you are witnessing a lot of (necessary) price correction in the secondary market. I'm a little tired of Rolex content, price/investment content, and spec/value proposition talk. If a watch speaks to you, is decently well made, is available from a trustworthy source, and is priced fairly for the current market.....buy it if you can easily afford that price. Enjoy it for a long time. If you sell it years later, you can't really "lose" money. You know where the money is: it paid for the experience of owning the watch.
@heiner71
@heiner71 Жыл бұрын
I think the key is "vintage" and "second hand". These watches already lost their "new watch value" and will remain steady or even increase in value over time (if kept in good condition). Luckily I like older watch designs and therefore mostly buy vintage/used watches. I never really lost money. If you always need the latest and greatest, yeah everything is a "rip off", if that is how you define depreciation.
@yonder_owls
@yonder_owls Жыл бұрын
@@heiner71 I don't disagree at all. I've also bought new from the Omega AD, and I never felt ripped off. People's definitions of value are elusive to me, but hopefully they are not formed only from KZbin videos.
@Claus-L.Mueller
@Claus-L.Mueller Жыл бұрын
Hi TGV! If I could only own one luxury watch it would still be an Omega Aqua Terra! I would buy it on a bracelet but would wear it on the Omega rubber or a nice leather strap most of the time. Best regards, Claus
@duncanidaho2130
@duncanidaho2130 Жыл бұрын
I own an Omega Maison Fondee 1848 which settles the luxury watch slot in my collection nicely.
@real_fjcalabrese
@real_fjcalabrese Жыл бұрын
The only items I bought new that grew some value are two guitar effects pedal: a Maxon Apex and a Klon KTR. This because of an overheated collectors' market. This created a problem. They are now hard to value and off my pedalboards. They were replaced with a Maxon 808 and a J Rockett Archer, respectively.
@GoTerpsGoBlue
@GoTerpsGoBlue Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reasoned perspective TGV. I prefer Omega to Rolex (have owned/own both) because it better fits my style and personality….and I keep them (re-sale doesn’t matter). Buy what you love and enjoy!!
@OCE_JXMES
@OCE_JXMES Жыл бұрын
I'm a big of 'alpha M' as well, I love his channel but like a lot of general men's style channels I would never take his advice on a specialist topic like watches. For that, there's only one place to go and that's 'The Urban Gentry'. I also really like the fact you're not being negative about him or his channel, it shows your class. Given that you emphasised how much he has helped you in the past I actually found this video increased my appreciation of both your channels. Really fantastic content, makes me want to get an Omega even more than I already did which I didn't think was possible. That solid gold Seamaster (around the 18:10 min mark) is an absolutely stunning watch!
@Chilam.
@Chilam. Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. I'm wearing a 1960s pie pan right now, and I'd take it over a vintage datejust any day.
@martinkaplan1805
@martinkaplan1805 Жыл бұрын
I’d take them both!
@Chilam.
@Chilam. Жыл бұрын
@@martinkaplan1805 hehehe I wouldn't mind a fluted bezel DJ to be fair.
@andreasbernhardbrandl6622
@andreasbernhardbrandl6622 Жыл бұрын
Hi TGV, thank you for another video. To be honest with you you're the only watch channel I'm still following since the onset of my fascination for wrist watches. One can feel you're a true enthusiast. Let me add that I recently got more into the watchmaking itself on an amateur level and I have 3 omega pocket watches. I had a cal18 from ~1910s I my hands and literally had tears in my eyes grateful to looking at a piece of art. I do get a little sad sometimes though that omega is more and more drifting intentionally towards high end luxury and away from just a high quality high durable robust product.
@josephgittos3787
@josephgittos3787 Жыл бұрын
Ah that Omega ploprof I would love one of those such a unique looking piece. Love your gold omega I own a 60s seamaster but the dial is damaged and always wondered should I splash the cash and send it tom Omega in Switzerland for a full restoration?
@BlackWipeout
@BlackWipeout Жыл бұрын
At the end, what Aaron said... the world is a Ripoff, right ? This is why i love your channel, it's not about bling bling it's about the passion of watches and especially you around the history of the brand. I learned so much with you, that I respect a certain brand more and more, that I only knew the name in the past. I even discovered Swiss brands that I did not know, a crime knowing that I am a Swiss citizen. It even became a topic of conversation in my family now. PS For Aaron... I think, the goal was making a drama for more views, but it can be dangerous, he will trap himself in a bad hype...
@6xtbirk
@6xtbirk Жыл бұрын
This tool was endorsing MVMT....so yeah he is wrong....
@Andy-4342
@Andy-4342 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I quit watching Aaron when he was schilling MVMT watches wearing a root beer Rolex GMT Master II. At the end of the day, Aaron is a salesman. His whole brand is selling an image and a mythical lifestyle.
@real_fjcalabrese
@real_fjcalabrese Жыл бұрын
They paid him.
@4evalost948
@4evalost948 Жыл бұрын
The intro is Master class, the is no point in making hate videos about Alpha M everyone is allowed to form their own opinion even if that said opinion is a little out their and not well-informed when as a community need to learn that again and not just want to dog pile and hate some one for their opinion even if it's not the correct one, you never go on ban wagon and hate brigades you are always fair with your assessments of situations that why people respect your opinions so much great video.
@PapriceP
@PapriceP Жыл бұрын
Federico and John P from Delray Watches are some really cool watch dealers on youtube. They are genuinely passionate and give lots of attention to smaller brands. Cool dudes.
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry Жыл бұрын
I have never purchased from them, so I can not honestly attest to their service, may I ask how have you faired with them as I am not familiar with this brand? I have been burnt many times by other KZbin watch dealers, so forgive me if I am skeptical. Thank you for watching, Best regards, TGV
@chaosad4508
@chaosad4508 Жыл бұрын
​@@theurbangentry so you're trying to say you don't know Federico. You fake your past like you fake your present. You don't seem genuine at all. Will this comment last long?
@bobhob35
@bobhob35 Жыл бұрын
I can understand why people think Omega is overpriced. In the last three years, they have raised prices considerably, had poor supply of new releases in local boutiques and dealers and released an endless number of special editions; all combined with a perception of quality that has dipped (just) a little. The best (worst) example of this was the handling of the moonswatch release combined with poor build quality which has left a bad taste in many collectors' mouths. (We know they can build superb quality watches, there is no excuse) I would love one of the new Aqua Terra Shades but with a list price of £6100 in the UK and no stock at my local dealer for over a year and with prices on the grey market unreasonably high it just isn't going to happen. For a similar amount, I can easily buy a choice of Cartier Santos' or Tanks from my local dealer which by comparison represent a better value for money option. ( I never thought I would say a Cartier was a value-for-money proposition in my life.) Omega has an amazing back catalogue of wonderful watches which makes them a top choice for vintage collectors; I really want the company to flourish in the future but in order to do that it needs to treat its customers with respect and dignity.
@StefanoMaggio
@StefanoMaggio Жыл бұрын
That 4 splits frame just summed up Omega perfectly. There's Rolexs for a half mil, but non have an in house chrono repeater! there's just no contest when it comes to horology between the two.
@stevepapa
@stevepapa Жыл бұрын
Amazing intro as always and great points in the video! I also appreciate your ability to disagree with someone on a singular point without completely vilifying the person entirely, it has become a lost skill these days. Great work T!
@Doggo-frencton
@Doggo-frencton Жыл бұрын
Moonwatch Professional is definitely overpriced at $7200. Omega still makes great watches though
@damo0078
@damo0078 Жыл бұрын
Bulova Moon watch only 700 or less !
@SkipHeflin
@SkipHeflin Жыл бұрын
I love the way you express your opinion and welcome differing viewpoints in general TGV. I wish we had more people like that, we would all be in a much better life. Love Omega, own a Planet Ocean and an old bumper and plan to keep them for the long haul.
@glens3465
@glens3465 Жыл бұрын
Great as always TGV. Until you have had the chance to own both it’s hard to have a balanced opinion. I would hate to be told I could only buy Rolex as a “good” watch, I’m always looking at what Omega is up to next each year, or Tudor around W&W , or a stack of other brands for that matter. You get caught up in it all. Many of these guys couldn’t care less, it’s only what Rolex is doing. To me that is a massive red flag, disingenuous is the vibe I get. Never with you, legend 😇
@maxkaltenhauser9282
@maxkaltenhauser9282 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, no matter how great someones watch collection might be if you can't appreciate ANY cheaper or less known watch brands you are not a watch enthusiast but an egomaniac. Anybody I met who was truly into watches could appreciate a cool Seiko, Hamilton, Longines, Tudor, Omega or hell even a Casio. If the only watches you value are the most popular Rolex models then sorry you are not into watches but just there to show off. It would be like a car guy that just appreciates the newest Porsche models and can't appreciate the beauty of a Mercedes Oldtimer or hell a Mazda Miata for that matter. Sure Porsche and Rolex are amazing but first of all they are not the pinnacle of their respective fields and there is beauty to be found in so many different things that if you can't see that you are either very new to the hobby or just want your choices validated to boost your ego.
@mrmyc0rn840
@mrmyc0rn840 Жыл бұрын
If you knew nothing about watches, and you watched this video, and ANYTHING from Alpha M; honestly, who would you trust? Excellent work as always, TGV.
@monsieurbennett
@monsieurbennett Жыл бұрын
I agree that Omega is now getting too expensive. I’m in the market for a diver in the region of £3-4k. I can buy a new Tudor with a 5 year warranty, or a second hand Omega with a 1 year warranty which I know from experience will have to be serviced shortly after the warranty expires. I’m an Omega guy from my teens but the aqua terra is not worth £5k, and the Speedy is not worth £6k. These were retailing for less than half that not ten years ago. Shameful.
@chrispekel5709
@chrispekel5709 Жыл бұрын
They're not charities you know, it's a business. Shameful isn't the correct descriptor
@Zeus-kj7nn
@Zeus-kj7nn Жыл бұрын
Just like Rolex are not worth their price tag.
@digitunicorn
@digitunicorn Жыл бұрын
Respectful and classy as ever, TGV. Another great video.
@ChanahsCreativeEdits
@ChanahsCreativeEdits Жыл бұрын
Too many limited editions, too many carbon copies of Rolex.....yup would still buy an Ω😅
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 Great comment, thank you. Best regards, TGV
@jamiemitchell6883
@jamiemitchell6883 Жыл бұрын
Hi TGV, Great video as always, and I agree with a lot of what you said, but there is one thing about the MODERN Omegas that I do not like and that is the price. I can not afford either Rolex or Omega, but when I was younger the sight of Pierce Brosnan wearing an Omega and seeing it in a shop window was something, and although it was expensive it felt, well, it could be possible one day with saving some money. Today, I see the latest Bond watches and the price is eye watering. It is obviously over inflated because it is a Bond watch. That is my problem with todays Omega I feel that the price that they are asking for is not worth what they are selling I see the price and if I had the money that I would be conned. It is not just the Bond Omegas. It feels like it with their whole range. I still could not afford it, but if I was to get a new watch, the new Tudors that were just released felt like they were worth the money. It feels like you are getting a modern watch with great design for an agreeable price for what it is.
@Ballacha
@Ballacha Жыл бұрын
I remember being recommended one of his videos and thought I was watching an Andrew Tate parody. Naturally I stopped watching when it became apparent that he wasn’t doing comedy. I’ve only watched one video of his so my opinion might not be accurate. But he seems like a grown man with a teen brain.
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your videos. I have been collecting for more than 60 years (I am an old man), and Omega, since I began was always associated with precision and engineering ( I am one too). It is good than young people like you appreciate watches. I have survived the quartz crisis and smartwatches too. Mille grazie!!! My ancestors came from Italia too. Mille grazie, Patagonia, Argentina.
@atlacatl7501
@atlacatl7501 Жыл бұрын
A true horology connoisseur would pay no attention to Omega. Hulex is the ultimate timepiece. 😂
@SilentShadow7r7
@SilentShadow7r7 Жыл бұрын
You’ll probably lose an arm or a leg to get one😅
@RossWristWatchLove
@RossWristWatchLove Жыл бұрын
Love this video and thanks for the shout out, Alpha M. Is entitled to his opinion but with me having bought my first Omega Speedmaster I would have respectfully disagree.
@Aggnog
@Aggnog Жыл бұрын
If Omega is a rip-off, then so are most luxury watch brands. I do think they go farther than most with their emphasis on limited editions and taking advantage of customer FOMO. However it is common practice in all luxury brands to artificially keep their prices up in order to attract a different type of customer and to feign their high end status.
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry Жыл бұрын
Very true about the limited editions, so true. Thank you for sharing that. Best regards, TGV
@pacovl46
@pacovl46 Жыл бұрын
Omega is much less of a rip-off than Patek, VC or AP.
@apeekintime
@apeekintime Жыл бұрын
Basically every luxury product is a ripoff - you pay for brand not for quality (at least compared to the mark up over non-luxury brands). The Rolex Submariner is a great reliable watch...The Seiko SKX was a great reliable watch. The Rolex MIGHT last longer and and might be more accurate but I don't wear the same watch every day (or every week) so I end up setting my watches on a regular basis. The differences between stated tolerances of the Rolex and Seiko movements wouldn't vary enough to matter for a normal human. If you take the money you saved buying the non-luxury Seiko you would have enough money for ever to repair/replace your Seiko and have a better investment vehicle than the Rolex. Rolex's have appreciated but they don't appreciate as well if you actually wear the watch and don't baby it. Luxury stuff is pretty much a scam. In the clothing world most luxury clothes are made in cheap factories in Asia and the quality is marginally, if at all, better than the stuff sold by any large brand. When you buy luxury brands you are often trying to look like you have money. I bought a new Rolex a few years back but I don't wear it often to public events simply because I don't need to be Rolex guy but I'll wear it while I lift weight in my home gym or skiing where no one every sees what is on my wrist. If you want to seem rich... don't buy luxury crap and invest your dollars. You'll actually get rich instead of just looking it.
@jimsteinway695
@jimsteinway695 Жыл бұрын
@@pacovl46 I don’t get patek especially the entry level ones
@HRM.H
@HRM.H Жыл бұрын
Some people claim every divewatch is a rolex ripoff. 😂 they forget there were many waterproof watches before rolex...
@taranscott155
@taranscott155 Жыл бұрын
My first time watching one of your videos - it definitely won't be the last 🙂 My ex-wife swiped my Omega Seamster. It went with me on 15 years of service, in countless countries, parachute drops, etc, and when I opened the box after we divorced I found it empty, and the watch was gone. I have been searching for a suitable replacement for some time, and it will definitely be another Omega. Thanks for such an informative and well-produced video 🙂
@akshaypotdar1840
@akshaypotdar1840 Жыл бұрын
If Omega could follow the suit of Tudor, and make divers (and possibly other popular types) below 40mm, that would make lot more sense.
@DarrenBates
@DarrenBates Жыл бұрын
I always think of Longines being Swatch's Tudor equivalent. I'm sure we're going to see some more vintage inspired sizing from them this year.
@monsieurbennett
@monsieurbennett Жыл бұрын
@@DarrenBates Longines is nowhere near the design flair of Tudor. Most of their output looks tacky and cheap and believe me I’m very sad about it
@SIZZO76
@SIZZO76 Жыл бұрын
You sound delusional. Tudor is overrated and a poor man’s Rolex 😂😂😂
@garyboyle695
@garyboyle695 Жыл бұрын
Try actually diving with a sub 40mm watch and see how that works out for you.
@davidr2802
@davidr2802 Жыл бұрын
@@garyboyle695 You mean like James Bond in the pre sequence of Goldfinger. He seemed to live to tell the tale sporting a 38MM 6538
@Podcastage
@Podcastage Жыл бұрын
What is this I see? Nuance on KZbin? You know that’s not allowed TGV! Now get to making the mandatory outrageous drama and collect your monthly million dollar youtube check. Thank you. Signed, Your friendly youtube content police
@StefanoMaggio
@StefanoMaggio Жыл бұрын
Ci sono tanti canali di orologeria molto belli. ma nessuno come il tuo! Dalla qualita' del video ai contenuti e le analisi a cui, francamente, nessun altro si avvicina. Sei un grande! keep at it man!
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry Жыл бұрын
You are too kind Stefano, mille grazie amico 😎🥂 O&U! Best regards, TGV
@Andy-4342
@Andy-4342 Жыл бұрын
The prices of Rolex watches have more to do with speculators than any real consideration of value. I happen to love my Omega Seamaster ref. 2220.80.00 on a blue and red NATO strap and wear it whenever I can without a care about resale value.
@zillsburyy1
@zillsburyy1 Жыл бұрын
OMEGA has always been the best
@zillsburyy1
@zillsburyy1 Жыл бұрын
that guy is a patrick dempsey wannabe
@goldencalf5144
@goldencalf5144 Жыл бұрын
Omega has been playing catch up with Rolex for the last 50 years. The crown reigns supreme.
@sivanstar
@sivanstar Жыл бұрын
I loved your comment on Marc because i was kinda feeling uncomfortable hearing you say that, was happy to hear you say that comment at the end! Well done! Omega rip off? This guy is delusional.
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry Жыл бұрын
Marc is in a league of his own. Thank you Sivan, Best regards, TGV
@lonewolfemcquade8133
@lonewolfemcquade8133 Жыл бұрын
I've owned Omega and I still own two Rolex 😅I actually prefer vintage Omega designs over modern
@aitornavarro6597
@aitornavarro6597 Жыл бұрын
The only Rolex I'm only interested in ever having is a Datejust in two-tone with champagne dial simply because of looks. But for the time being I'm with my grandfathered Reverso, my own Seamaster, Hamilton Mechanical Bronze and Nomos Tangente dress watch
@jrgdrumsandwatches
@jrgdrumsandwatches Жыл бұрын
Alpha who?
@elgar6743
@elgar6743 Жыл бұрын
"...non me ne frega un cazzo..." Very well enunciated and in the correct context...bravo, well done!!
@Javi_C
@Javi_C Жыл бұрын
You can always trust TGV!
@TheBondExperience
@TheBondExperience Жыл бұрын
One of your best videos yet...so thoughtful and engaging...the height of infotainment. Well done my friend!
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry Жыл бұрын
David! Thank you so much. Sometimes I forget, you are the biggest Omega collector I know. I hope you and your family are well, will be traveling for a while but it would be lovely to have you back on the channel in May or June if you are not busy. I will email you soon. Best regards, TGV
@TheBondExperience
@TheBondExperience Жыл бұрын
@@theurbangentry Let's do this!!!!!!!!!
@michaelbradley6488
@michaelbradley6488 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for being real about the actual watches.
@intotheLIMELIGHT
@intotheLIMELIGHT Жыл бұрын
Grazie mille per la menzione, amico mio! Bel video come al solito, mi sembra incredibile che ci sia qualcuno che metta in dubbio le qualità intrinseche e meccaniche di Omega. Omega ha i suoi aspetti negativi, ma di certo non in quello che dice AlphaM. Un abbraccio!
@gundamzerostrike
@gundamzerostrike Жыл бұрын
Omega watches don't appreciate in price because... People can find them. Unlike Rolex, that are almost all "limited edition" since you can't find them new anywhere. It not something that has to do with the watches themselves. If Omega watches start becoming hard to find, I'm pretty sure their prices would get higher too.
@dannyg6592
@dannyg6592 Жыл бұрын
Great video, as always. Love seeing Hugo. While Omega is a great brand with a storied history and diverse collection, it is far from the best value Swiss luxury brand in 2023. In looking at value from an economist's viewpoint, one must include in the equation the resale value of any material good. This is where Rolex, Patek and AP shine far brighter than Omega.
@vantheman1238
@vantheman1238 Жыл бұрын
Have an Omega Seamaster from 2010 and it is without doubt a great watch and I love it.
@PhatkatCollections
@PhatkatCollections Жыл бұрын
I think omega is a RIPOFF. But then again I think ANY watch over 500 is a ripoff. 😂. I really liked what you said about validation. I validate myself and nobody else's opinion matters.
@lackster458
@lackster458 Жыл бұрын
I think you make a great point about how the You Tube watch space has changed. I agree with you about the amount of dealers or influencers who have flooded into the space. I personally get turned off by all the shouting, constant focus on price, the drama and thinly veiled attempts at independence. I find much more enjoyment, and dare I say it, education in Chanel’s like yours and @illuminating_watches than I do from some of the so called ‘bigger’ watch channels. Stumbled across your channel back in the day and have been a subscriber ever since for many of the points you make in this video. There is so much more to this ‘hobby’ than the price of the watch. Thank you for all the effort you clearly put into your videos. 🙏
@blueonyx7628
@blueonyx7628 Жыл бұрын
I love Omega and own a Speedy and a SeaMaster. However, the best value watch for what you get for the price at this time is Grand Seiko (2 of which I own)
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