Is AMD's Ryzen 7 5800X3D One Of The Greatest CPUs Of All-Time?

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[@Benefits]

Gamers that have motherboards from 2017 can drop the 5800x3D in and instantly have gaming performance on par with the newest chips of 2024. For that reason alone, the chip is legendary.

[@Megalomaniakaal]

Well, pci-e gen 3 is a potential bottleneck, but that's more so for nvme SSD's rather than [current] GPUs I guess...

[@juanme555]

@@Megalomaniakaal On Spider-Man Remastered performance goes down with PCI 3 for some reason, something about the game engine accessing the mainboard memory all the time or smth, it cant be mittigated with more VRAM sadly. But i still think that for most games, sure, pci3 is fine.

[@gamingedition5165]

5800X3D came out halfway through 2022 buddy :)

[@Biggie971]

@@Megalomaniakaal The difference is negligeable with pci4

[@Benefits]

@@gamingedition5165 I'm aware. What's your point? 5800x3D is outperforming some of the newest CPU's from 2024.

[@topredtv3275]

I absolutely love mine. Went from the 3600 to the 5800X3D on the same board. Intel..... NEVER AGAIN

[@BruceLeedar]

I did the exact same swap. Usually I don't upgrade my PC very often, but I was holding out for a price drop on the 5800X3D before it was discontinued since I got the feeling it was going to be a good long term choice. Little did I know that it seems like 5x00X3D chips are going to be available for several years after I thought it was going away.

[@protocetid]

@@BruceLeedarI wonder if the 5800X3D will remain viable up to AM6

[@glbernini0]

Another smart shopper here! Did the same swap & not even tempted to get a 9000 series "UPGRADE". HOPEFULLY 10000 series will double the performance?

[@boogeyman4842]

the 5800X3D will go down as the GTX 1080 Ti of CPUs 🤌

[@DarkZenith]

LoL! I was just going to type that when I saw the title!

[@pandemik0]

Hey I'm still on that GPU lol ... maybe I'll ugrade some year soon

[@IgoByaGo]

I was going to say the same thing.

[@XxViciousxX]

This is a 100% fact.

[@Charlemagne89]

As a gentleman and scholar running a 5800X3D and a 1080ti I can confirm yes I'm living the dream

[@gunslinga7077]

Still rocking my 5800x3d the frames are crazy in game. Don’t plan on upgrading it for a long time, at 1080p now but will at 1440p soon further extending the life cycle of it for me

[@surfx4804]

Sill running my 5800x3d with a 4090 and a 4k 120Hz TV (LG C2). Don't see I would gain anything upgrading yet. The fact this CPU will slot into a basic AM4 MB and perform, and that it kind of mitigates for slower ram is amazing. With AM4 I started at 2600x, the whole platform has been great.

[@eleven99]

I have a feeling that this is gonna be this era's 2500k, where you're gonna be set for the next 10+ years without never needing to upgrade it. And almost 2 years after buying one and pairing it with an RTX 4080, I can say I certainly see it being that way.

[@IgoByaGo]

I have mine with a 4090, previously it was with a Radeon 6900 and it works great. It is hard to believe it is on the same board that I had my 3800X on (Crosshair Hero VIII).

[@ridiculous_gaming]

I loved my Athlon 2500+ before the Intel Core2DUO RELEASED. IT was powerful and relatively affordable. Years earlier, I also enjoyed the easily overclockable pentium 2 Celeron 300, which cost $150 cad and nearly matched the Pentium 3-450, which was $1000cad.

[@barneyklingenberg4078]

I went from an 3570k (which is basically an 2500k) to an 7600. Planning to upgrade that hopefully with Zen6

[@saricubra2867]

Meanwhile my 12700K is the new 2700K or 2600K.

[@craciunator99]

Bruh I used a 2500k all the way till 2019, I had it overclocked at 4.8ghz 24/7, I even was running it passively cooled for the last several years as I lost my fan clip, that scythe mugen 2 heatsink was an absolute beast.

[@TheGrizz485]

Picked up 5700x3d + B550 motherboard+ heatsink fan all for $150 from aliexpress sales 5 months ago. Super happy im going to say that's as close as well ever get to the best CPU for all time.

[@mrshinobigaming8447]

150$ how is that even possible

[@Just_An_Ignacio]

​@@mrshinobigaming8447 Aliexpress and some crazy sales.

[@smugmode]

How is the Aliexpress motherboard? I also bought a 5700X3D to downgrade my 5800X3D and get some $$ back

[@TheGrizz485]

​@@smugmode its a Maxsun motherboard which is more than decent for the $55 i paid for it. i never faced any issues with it even after the mild overclock i tested with. the cpu ened up being $105 after using aliexpress coupons during sales.

[@TheGrizz485]

@@mrshinobigaming8447 more than possible in aliexpress during sales if you find working coupons during sales currently the price for the chip is alone is $170. Personally i would get a ryzen 7500F+ a620 since ddr5 memory is now cheap that should end up being around $150 during the coming sales.

[@stevenanderson3205]

Using the 5800X3D right now with 32 GB of CL 14 Ram and a 4070ti

[@CrispyChicken44]

Am I stupid or will that be a slight bottleneck? I mean nothing mean, I am just sincerely asking and just trying to see

[@bobwood2030]

@@CrispyChicken44 I have the same setup but with a 4070ti super and i can assure you even with that im bottlenecked by gpu in jedi survivor/ black myth wukong etc at 1440p. Dont forget I can also play upscaled to 4k on my 1440p monitor with DLSR and then downscale back to 1440p with DLSS. Only thing 5800x3d is bad at it paradox kind of games. I mean its not bad still about the same as a 12600 or 14400 but turn times kinda suck on it.

[@stevenanderson3205]

@@CrispyChicken44 I play at 1440p to 4K high settings i use very little cpu but 98 to 100% GPU the settings work really good with the hardware.

[@devondorr8212]

​@@CrispyChicken44You're bound to run into a bottleneck with a high refresh rate monitor lol. And since CPU these days are more affordable than GPUs a gpu bottleneck is usually to be expected

[@hfikz]

@@CrispyChicken44 I have same setup but with 4080 Super and I'm CPU bottlenecked. If I had the 4070ti, I would believe I wouldn't be bottlenecked as he was saying he gets high GPU utilization at 1440p and 4k.

[@SaltMakerE]

The greatness of the 5800X3D is not so much it's performance or performance per dollar, but rather its ability to simply be installed in 8 year old motherboards, all while using inexpensive DDR4 memory and small inexpensive coolers.

[@sklynexd]

Depends on the temps you want but Arctic 34 esports and deepcool AK400 can manage 80C with 100W PPT and 90C with 120W PPT in OCCT benchmark so not exactly cool. Room temp is 29C.

[@retmania]

But the cpu itself is a little bit pricey

[@christophermullins7163]

​@@sklynexdthat is a limitation of thermal transfer and not so much the wattage rating your cooler can dissipate. Gaming should never be that hot though.. only full load.

[@cosmic_gate476]

@@sklynexdThermals are garbage, I cross over 90C under load in gaming with a Corsair H115i Elite Cappelix AiO 😂😂

[@seizonsha]

It's the performance first you Tard. You can drop in any 5000 cpu in an 8 year old board.

[@bart_fox_hero2863]

AM4 will probably be looked back on as legendary. The crossroads of the tech, the games, and just that time period. It was it’s own little golden era, but we didn’t know it

[@SpookySkeletonGang]

5700X3D is nuts, and really makes the 9000 series look so much worse then it is for AM4 users. At least when it was the 5800X3D it was a toss up because chips like the 7600 were cheaper than it, so you could get a mobo and ram with a 7600 for not much more then the 5800X3D. Now? Just get a 5700X3D and be done with it.

[@abraham9301]

even the 5800x3d is cheaper

[@bodasactra]

5600X3D, hold my beer!

[@fafski1199]

​I completely agree that a 5700X3D is a much better and wiser choice for a gaming CPU on the AM4 platform. Also, in the longterm it will highly likely last equally as long as a 5800X3D, will. It might have around 4-7% less performance than a 5800X3D, however it uses slightly less wattage while under load, runs slightly cooler and costs around 30-35% less. I just think the 5800X3D is just too overpriced and has far too much "overhype" surrounding it, to even judge it as being a "legendary CPU". It would be like calling a RTX 4090, a legendary GPU (again not worthy, due to it's expense and overhype) Hell, you can currently even pick up the much better performance and newer 7800X3D for roughly the same price as a 5800X3D here in the UK (both cost around £300).

[@mhh16]

Agreed. I bought the 5800x3d at launch before the 5700x3d launched, if those two chips were launched at the same time I would have gotten the 5700 instead

[@Think_1234]

@@bodasactra 5500X3D, hold my beer!

[@terminalfx]

The 4790k and 7700k from intel were also both great chips that outlasted their +1 and +2 generation counterparts for performance to value ratio.

[@rizkyarieframadhan4893]

yup 4790 with 1070 still can play blackmyth on 1080p

[@raymondchen5047]

5800X3D is the GTX1080Ti of the CPU. AMD even expanded their lineup to include 5600X3D and 5700X3D

[@saricubra2867]

The 1080Ti of CPU is the i7-12700K. The 5800X3D is the new i5-2500K.

[@drewnewby]

I sold many of the legends, i486DX2-66, Athlon XP 3200+, Q6600, i7-2600K, i7-8700K, etc. It's odd seeing someone mention the i7-920, Tom's mentioned it a few months ago, equally confusing, as it wasn't memorable. Sold a lot more i486SX-33, XP 2600+, E8400, i5-2500K, etc. than the legendary ones for sure though. Same for the 5800X3D, I've probably still built more with the 5700X3D. Hard to say which should be considered the legendary SKU.

[@flyaway6671]

How can the gen 1 i7 be legendary when gen 2 blew it out of the water and then remained relevant for 5+ years later due to being an overclocking king and new chips only being 5% better. I was playing 2020 new releases on my 2500k in 1080p 60fps - 9 years after buying the chip. Now that is legendary.

[@robertt9342]

5800k3d should legendary cpu because it was the first and was a game changer

[@robertt9342]

@@flyaway6671. I agree the first Gen i7 was a nothing chip.

[@drewnewby]

@flyaway6671 I thought it was odd too, just started appearing on the lists recently. The only first gen I remember selling was the i5-750.

[@brafya]

q6600 my love, ran that bad boy at 4.051ghz until the day i replaced it, stable oc for 8 years at 1.6v absolute legend

[@DesocupadoXtremo]

I had one but my mobo didn't suport overclock, god didn't knew these chips would clock so high

[@brafya]

@@DesocupadoXtremo it depended on such factors as golden sample, delidding and getting a revision g0 stepping unit, most could reach 3.3 with low effort, 3.9 was the scary boundary

[@DesocupadoXtremo]

@@brafya so you went above and beyond at 4.05 🫡 1.6 is really high for today standarts, It also was back them?

[@barneyklingenberg4078]

You sure must have hit it home with the silicon lottery. Mine did 3.6 ghz stable on air for 6-7 years. Which was still 50% of “free” performance. My i5 3570K is still running great on a friend that has limited funds

[@barneyklingenberg4078]

The der stepping did 3.3 3.4 max GO stepping was an easy reliable 3.4-3.8 on air with a slight over volt. His clocks are of an golden sample.

[@abaww90]

msi b350m mortar from 2017 + 5800x3d bought used for 240€ 1 and a half year ago. proud.

[@Ivan-pr7ku]

The V-Cache is such an elegant "brute force" solution to the latency bound chiplet architecture of Ryzen. No wonder it will keep the old AM4 CPUs afloat for long time.

[@dennythescar80s8]

I still have a 5800X3D with RTX 4080 Super and i will not change this CPU for nothing right now.

[@ZackSNetwork]

Your CPU bottlenecked.

[@XxViciousxX]

@@ZackSNetwork That's true but it's really not that bad most of the time my 5800X3D/4090 TV PC is pretty close to my 13900KF/4090. Like if you did not have an FPS counter I doubt most people would be able to tell the two apart. But that is at 4K If you want a high refresh rate 1080p or even 1440p then that's where the 5800X3D will lag behind say a 14700k or a 7800X3D for example. But even then that might not matter to people so long as they hit whatever target FPS they were looking to hit.

[@mttrashcan-bg1ro]

@@XxViciousxX It depends, my 5900X compared to my 7800X3D with my 4090 was a huge difference, and I can tell in most games the 7800X3D still isn't enough for a 4090 even at 4k. The push of DLSS and RT has made CPU upgrades more necessary.

[@purplegill10]

Slight correction: the x3d chips were originally JUST intended for the server market but multiple engineers found the gaming performance to be phenomenal so they eventually convinced their higher-ups to put it in a consumer chip.

[@SuperBobbyiv]

im rocking 5800x3D with 7900xtx with 32GB ram im pretty set for the next 5-10 years

[@calas7]

Just upgraded from a 5800X to a 5800X3D today! Only had the 5800X since around launch, before the X3D was even a thing really yet, I am so glad it kicks this much butt!

[@madarab]

Lol, you wasted money on 10 -15 % faster cpu. Fool of the year, my sides.

[@MrNelahem]

@@madarab I did this upgrade and depending on the GPU resolution and game its alot more than 10-15%.

[@calas7]

@@MrNelahem It's a super cheap on sale upgrade for my 3090 thats for sure!

[@madarab]

@@MrNelahem keep telling yourself that, reviews with plenty of games are clear, oh no, instead of 150 fps you got 175. Great investment, that few games in which it shows more.than 15% don't matter you still slower than Intel i5 or 7600x. Great buy, upgrading dead and ram bottlenecked platform.

[@drewnewby]

@calas7 Ignore the crazies, I'm sure after selling off the 5800X, it's a minimal cost for the upgrade. The 5800X3D easily keeps up with the 7700 systems I build for some customers, in gaming. I mostly build 5700X3D when they go AM4, but if you find a 5800X3D for a decent price, do it. No reason to switch to AM5 unless you go 7800X3D and have a very high end GPU to go wit it.

[@bodasactra]

The rare and legendary 5600X3D and AM4ever for me!

[@interrobangings]

I remember having my 3770k OC'd to 4.5GHz. Finally upgraded to a 3900x a bit back and was very happy with it

[@InnerFire6213]

Also what makes it so great is that the 3d v-cache elevates the RAM burden, it's achieving great performance just like the newer chips that use faster RAM. But i guess that's true for all x3d's

[@Jomenaa]

"Yo we heard you gamers like cache so we added so cache on your cache"

[@Pemalite]

It's up there with the Celeron 300A, Core 2 Quad Q6600, Core i7 2600K, Duron 1Ghz, Athlon 64 3000+.

[@93ct]

Dual Celeron OC on Abit BP6 - god-like!

[@AKSBSU]

Good to hear considering I just bought one from Micro Center for $300. It’s as far as I can go with AM4. Anything beyond this would require a full rebuild, which I was considering with Zen 5 but that’s on hold for now for obvious reasons.

[@barneyklingenberg4078]

Makes sense, Yes when building from scratch get AM5 instead. The normal 7700 is already equivalent to the 5800 X3D. And the 7800X3D just spanks everything. But like you said Zen 5 is just a miss/flop. 2 years of completely rebuilding the architecture for no meaningful gains at all. The gains that are there probably could have been achieved by just using the newer TSMC node. Apart from rare avx 512 instructions.

[@techluvin7691]

The entire AM4 PLATFORM IS LEGENDARY. We only hope we see another platform like the AM4.

[@MacVerick]

Since I've installed my 5800x3d, I've been very satisfied with cpu-gaming performance.

[@levigoldson]

5800X3D is going to be AMD's 1080 ti. They're going to end up regretting it being so good for years to come, and will never make that mistake again.

[@ZackSNetwork]

Only good on the budget market. Current stuff is already faster.

[@MentalCrusader]

Had both the i7-920 and the 5800X3D 😇

[@retrosimon9843]

I had the Q6600, i5 760, 4670K, R5 3600, 5600, and since a year the 5800X3D

[@IsaandAli]

I paired my 5800x3d with an RTX 4080, playing at 4k, most games show 100% GPU utilization so no bottleneck.

[@ZackSNetwork]

You can still experience CPU bottleneck for sure. That GPU is to powerful for that CPU. Something like a 7800x3d or I7 is better.

[@MrNelahem]

@@ZackSNetwork Its a small bottleneck and not worth a full system upgrade yet.

[@TechnicolorTube]

AMD definitely deserves Queue-Dos for the 5800x3D.

[@robertt9342]

Kudos?

[@protocetid]

There's a joke in there somewhere about the British and their love of queuing.

[@CrispyChicken44]

I'm extremely grateful that my gf took me to Microcenter this year and allowed me to get "one" thing from Microcenter for my birthday. I live in CT so it's a bit of a trip (I hate NY traffic). This was the processor I bought and I am SO happy I have it. :3

[@JamesSmith-sw3nk]

Great all time cpu. Repeat after me: "Cinebench is not a game."

[@dgc1808]

Upgraded in December 2023, with my X370 motherboard that i originally bought a R7 2700 with. Since that Bios updates, I've had strange issue where sometimes shutting down wouldn't fully shutdown the motherboard. Lights on my GPU and case fans would keep flickering until I flip the power switch on my PSU off and on again. Aside from this bug, which may be fixable with another BIOS update, the 5800X3D has been a champ. I should note that I updated the BIOS to upgrade CPUs, but that bug first manifested while still running the R7 2700. The first instance was after ordering the 5800X3D and waiting for delivery, after a "successful" BIOS update.

[@Nintenboy01]

Zen 3 was just such a great design and 3D V-Cache was the extra big cherry on top. Still competitive in gaming with the 13th Gen Core i5s/i7s and non-3D Zen 4 and even 5

[@danielsonjrlibra]

I got this on the Amazon resale as a last upgrade to my am4 2018-2019 build …legendary

[@DJThomas59]

2700x to the 5800x3d was a nice jump and not having to upgrade my mobo. And with DDr4 prices down, I need to upgrade my 3200 ram

[@barneyklingenberg4078]

The 5800 X3D is not picky with RAM.

[@KaiSchSp]

I am having a tough time seeing the need to upgrade to AM5. New Motherboard, new cpu, new ram, that is a HUGE jump, and for what exactly? I do see myself getting a new GPU in the next 1 to 2 years if an interesting card hits the market, but my 5800x3d seems fine with anything I throw at it.

[@barneyklingenberg4078]

Agreed the the guy asking the question. Yes the intel CPU’s mentioned aged really really well. The Q6600 I believe was on LGA 775 which was used for a fairly long time. But the other 2 awesome intel CPU’s did not offer en upgrade path.

[@retrosimon9843]

SLACR Q6600 ftw !

[@A.Froster]

my 5700x3d literally smokes everything i throw at it. Almost never bottlenecked at 1080p 100+ fps in all games i play. And newer games LOVE this thing , it just gets better with time which is crazy to me

[@LukCPL]

I have it after upgrading from 3700X, so yeah it is legendary in every way :)

[@ViolenceCity]

I looked at the specs and said "One last AM4 build" really happy with that choice.

[@necrotic256]

Well, considering that 7700 and 9700 have about the same gaming performance, i'd say yes

[@no-barknoonan1335]

The 7600 just about matches it in gaming performance, and is a CPU thats 2 tiers lower from the very next generation. At launch 5800X3D was incredible CPU and still is, but the advancements did not stop with it. The 7600 sells close to half the price new of a 5800X3D right now.

[@Just_An_Ignacio]

​@@no-barknoonan1335normally 7700 = 5800X3D. The 7600 only catches the 5800X3D with PBO, 6000 MT/s ram and in titles that love single thread performance and don't see gains over 6 cores.

[@ZackSNetwork]

False the 7700 and 9700x are faster.

[@ZackSNetwork]

@@Just_An_IgnacioFalse even the 7600 is slightly faster.

[@drewnewby]

@ZachSNetwork I've built plenty of them, 5800X3D, 7600, 7700. Where are you coming from with those double posts? The 5800X3D is equal to the 7700 in gaming. Go watch some comparisons or reviews. Depending on the title, even a 7700X can run slower than a 5800X3D. I only build those lower end 7000 series for customers than will upgrade later. It's nearly always 5700X3D or 7800X3D now for new customers.

[@CaveyMoth]

I love the bespoke shirt! It's literally bespoke. You should release it in XXXXXXXXXXXXXL for the full, fat experience.

[@meteorogames9523]

My i7 2600k lasted for so long and delivered such a good value that for me it is one of the best of all times as well

[@12me91]

man i remember *that* celeron. it was an overclocking budget KING

[@lflyr6287]

HAHA....but the problem is that in 2011 when the i7 2600K was released it costed 450 EUROS....and back than 450 EUROS was like todays 1000 EUROS....which majority of consumers couldn't afford....so it became a "legend" much much later in life when its price tanked on the used market and was again bought by poor enthusiasts (which were in the majority) that couldn't afford the new i7 8700K....so instead they went and bought the used i7 2600K for around 100 bucks (+used mobo for around 100 bucks) and OC-d it to 4.8 GHz and said to themselves "well at least I have an i7 even if it's not the latest" but I could buy it for 200 bucks combined. Whereas for the Ryzen 7 5800X3D 8c/16t goes, it instantly became a legend and was bought by countless consumers when it was released costing 500 EUROS and is still bought by countless consumers costing 320 EUROS today in 2024....since 2022 when it was released, this CPU is a LEGEND.

[@dr.sivavignesh664]

I had the option to go for this or 7000 series. Went with the 7000 series as the motherboard didn't have upgrade path without changing it entirely. Maybe amd would launch better cpus later.

[@iulian2548]

Celeron A 300 tops my list. Honorable mention to K6 III, the other cache doped CPU of AMD.

[@1q3er5]

great point about how all the bios limitations disappeared. if it wasn't for intels competition...the 5800x3d would have been severely limited to am5s

[@Fearless13468]

I love my 5800X3D. In older games, being 3+ years old, it is still very capable, even being able to beat out the likes of the 7700X and easily stomp on the 12900K. In newer games where memory makes more of an impact, it does start to show its age really only being able to compete with the 7600 and 12700K. It's lack of DDR5 support is it's biggest flaw. Thankfully I only play older games, because newer games kind of suck, and I play at 1440p so the performance gap between it and the newer CPUs is closed quite a bit. I'm going to hold onto this CPU for 7-10 years. My next gaming PC is going to be on AM6. As long as the 5800X3D can hit 60fps, I will still use it. It really is the 1080Ti of CPUs. Just like the 1080Ti the 5800X3D is still punching way above its weight class. Will it last as long as the 1080Ti has? I guess only time will tell. On I final note, I wouldn't recommend getting a 5800X3D. Don't get any AM4 CPU for a new build. If you are already on AM4 and looking to upgrade, the 5700X3D is a more reasonable choice.

[@Mondochiwan]

AMD have long been aware of the effect cache has on gaming performance, when they doubled the cache size of the Barton AthlonXP they started using "marketing names" instead of naming the product based on the Mhz it ran at. That was mainly because of the enhanced gaming performance

[@jamesdegriz]

Bought one for the Mrs and put it in a Fractal Torrent with an AMD 6800. Air cooled joy!!

[@WilliamNeacy]

Never been more satisfied with a CPU purchase in my entire life. AM4 is the real legend if you ask me.

[@poyteezy]

would you recommend upgrading the 5800x3d or 5700x3d coming from 5600?

[@BruceLeedar]

Although I got a more modern AM4 board with PCIe 4, GPU gaming performance should still be basically uncompromised with a PCIe 3x16 slot, at least with any currently released card. Theoretically PCIe 3 NVME SSDs would affect games using tech like DirectStorage.

[@12me91]

5800x3d is the legendary chip that will get the recognition, and i have one, but i do have to wonder if at the end of the day the 5700x3d will be the one that technically lets the platform live longest by numbers sold because of its price. also am4 technically came out in 2016 :P

[@MadX8]

The 5700X3D deserves more love too. Same chip, slightly underclocked but it's 95% of the performance for $100 less (at least where I am, in Europe).

[@leoariasyt]

AM4 = The Greatest X86 Platform ever made. The Ryzen 7 5800X3D = The Greatest Gaming CPU ever made.

[@TJPactronix]

Got a super deal at micro center. The chip is a beast!!!

[@jagg-f4x]

Bought a b350 back in 2018. 5700x3d will probably last me another 4 years. 10 year mobo.

[@alexgontijo]

It's really that good! 5800X3D is wild!

[@michaeloneill1360]

My Main Gaming Rig sports an AM4 Ryzen 7 5700X3D, that will eventually 'Transition' to Gaming Rig # 2, after my 'New Ryzen 4 AM5 Build is Completed.

[@kevinromero1235]

Fantastic talk as always Gents

[@izil1fe]

It is definitely up there

[@andyastrand]

Running one right now, it's very nice

[@PaulRoneClarke]

No mention of the old FX57 chip. AMD's finest hour prior to the 5800X3D Though let's remember that chip was $1000+ almost 20 years ago. (About $1650 in current value) So that might be the answer :) Typical AMD, I got mine 4 months after launch for $550. AMD drop prices like no business I've ever known. Makes being an early adopter to anything they make a really expensive/risky business.

[@namizmo]

I'm running mine on a B450 and its a beast!

[@simdevils]

I just upgraded from 5800X3D to 7800X3D and saw no improvements playing on 4K (i know they are GPU bound then, but i kinda expected at least 5-10 FPS more with faster ram and newer CPU) oh well.

[@joniqst]

When you use dlss it should make a difference

[@IsaandAli]

Which GPU do you have?

[@simdevils]

@@IsaandAli 4080 Super using DLSS Quality, mainly making the observation playing Cyberpunk.

[@commandertoothpick8284]

i just wish the 5800x3d was a bit cheaper in 2024.

[@saricubra2867]

i7-12700K always has been cheaper and faster than a 5800X3D. Zen 5 9700X multicore is still slower, single core wise the 12700K it's an IPC beast, the 5800X3D hasn't aged that well in comparison.

[@rolandwalker8298]

It is certainly the 1080ti of the CPU world, as many people will hang on to it for a while and think "Well, unto I have a compelling reason to upgrade, I'm not struggling to run my game library for the time being". I think I'll be doing the same with my 5950x I use for virtually everything, but mainly heavy VM work.

[@DarkJustin87]

Started with a 6650xt with a 5600X3D with 16gb of ram and ended with a 7800xt with a 5800X3D with 32gb of ram and have no plans to upgrade for at least a few years.

[@donloder1]

If only it was as good with 3D all around like it does gaming, then it can definitely enter my top CPU pantheon.

[@Guovssohas]

I'd say it is totally legendary, amd's 2500k or 1080ti. Personally i recently went from a 3700x to the 5700x3d and the difference was huge in gaming, instantly noticeable, no more random skips and slowdowns here and there, just perfect smoothness.

[@saricubra2867]

My i7-12700K is even more fine wine. Watch how it's holding up vs the dumpster fire that is 13th and 14th gen, or Zen 5 Ryzen 5/Ryzen 7...

[@Ladioz]

My only problem with the 5800X3D is that I wish it was more efficient like the 7800X3D. I like to keep it at stock settings. Performance is brilliant in gaming. HOWEVER, it does struggle in CPU demanding games, for those scenarios you'd want to have a 5900X instead

[@Chiefgeargrinder]

Lol. This chip is still very new. April 2022. It's far from crusty old. get some 14-14-14-34 3600 memory latency will be around 52.

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

I am just gonna say yes before even watching the video

[@fk4199]

it definitely is up there 5800x3d, 2600k, 2500k, original core2duo.

[@barneyklingenberg4078]

And the Core 2 Q6600

[@sapphyrus]

I'm indeed sad that I missed it by 5 months and grabbed a 5600x instead. While that's also great, ended up in a spot where it doesn't make sense to upgrade to 5800x3D and won't last as long.

[@Blaquegold]

We are going to keep it real here. I have been using Intel for years with no issues. I currently still have my 10850k. But for real the 5800x3d is such a great cpu. This is not an Intel vs AMD thing. If you are a fan of tech, you HAVE to give AMD huge props. What has surprised me is Intel has not seen this to make their own variant of a cpu to compete with the x3d chips. This cpu will keep am4 around at least for 2 to 5 more years I feel.

[@madpistol]

The 5800X3D is so good, that it took a dying platform and jumped it another generation in CPU performance for gaming while using less power. It's pretty crazy what AMD was able to do.

[@Shizzmoney74]

5800X3D is GOAT CPU for me, has helped me extend the life on my current system... gonna go 7800X3D when NVIDIA 5000 series comes out.

[@barneyklingenberg4078]

Don’t at the resolutions you play there will be no noticeable difference between the 2. Just wait the platform change out

[@missk1697]

​@@barneyklingenberg4078How do you even know what resolution he's at?

[@ralphbryant8178]

I have 5800x3d and it’s great pair with 3080 10 gb gpu. Smooth gaming

[@dave6018]

think the limit for the 5800x3d gpu wise is the 4080 super

[@Paulie8K]

I have a 5700X3D, 3080FE, and 32gb of DDR4 ram system. It's a sleeper system as on paper it's far from the latest and greatest, but I have no problem playing any game at 1440P and even some at 4K. Throw in Lossless Scaling and I should be set for a few more years.

[@randysalsman6992]

Not sure you'll get that much longer out of it. I mean it's starting to get a little long in the tooth now, so I'd say 2 more years max and it'll feel all but like e-waste.

[@Paulie8K]

@@randysalsman6992 I'm considering the 5080 depending on the price and performance but it's hard to believe my current system that does well now at 2K and 4K will suddently be unusable in 2 years lmao I could bet money it would do at least well at 1080P high settings, if not even 1440P medium/high settings by then (granted, I'd probably upgrade by then just because that was already my plan). Look at the 1080Ti. That thing came out way before the 3080 and it's still doing well in 1080P/1440P even now. That's like saying the PS5 which is significantly weaker than my system will be e-waste in 2 years time. Think harder next time buddy.

[@MrNelahem]

@@randysalsman6992 He can probably get more than 2 years out of it with a 5000 series NV Gpu upgrade however there will be a cpu bottleneck but still useable system.

[@drewnewby]

@Paulie8K You'll be fine, likely through the next console generation even. No idea why there are so many comments lately thinking otherwise. Maybe it's wishful thinking. Maybe their ego depends on upgrading every year, or trying to convince others to benefits them somehow. I build many systems for my customers, but I don't ever urge them to upgrade or replace even gaming PCs that often. Maybe they're worried they won't be able to flip their parts for as much with fewer people in a frenzy to upgrade.

[@Paulie8K]

@@drewnewby agreed. These guys are delusional that you need to run everything at 4K max settings otherwise you have a paperweight on your hands. I work in software and could easily afford to upgrade to a 90 level card/system every generation if I wanted to, but I'd rather get the best bang for the buck and see how far I can go with it. Also, the jump in performance tends to be huge like when I jumped from the RX 5700XT to a 3080 vs 20/30% gen on gen upgrades that are now typical. Ideally, I skip a generation then upgrade, that's why I'm now interested in the 5080. I feel if you build a solid 70-80 level Nvidia rig at launch, that should get 3-4 years of great performance, even if that means optimizing settings and not having to run everything at ultra. Glad there's people with common sense.

[@richard-davies]

5800X3D is up there with the my favourite hardware like the Q6600, 1080 Ti and 8800 GTX.

[@dmer-zy3rb]

Gtx 970 was also pretty legendary back in the day. And the r9 280 which was recycled for like 3 times and still kept up

[@richard-davies]

@@dmer-zy3rb the GTX 970 was only really famous for that VRAM issue where 3.5GB was fast VRAM and the other 512MB was significantly slower. This was a nightmare because once games needed 4GB and the GPU was forced to use the slow VRAM it caused issues.

[@saricubra2867]

My i7-12700K from 2021 that i bought for 300 USD... Not even the Ryzen 7 1700 had such an insane value for the absurd perfomance per dollar. The 12700K also has the best perfomance per watt on a desktop i7 in a decade.

[@charmingpeasant9834]

It's just 2 years old and is still quite expensive.

[@jenscee7679]

I’ve got one and it’s spectacular, cheap (when I bought it) runs on an older board and easy to cool. I’m not spending extra hundreds buying a new board and RAM for 15-20%. Decent AM5 boards with 32GB RAM are comedy prices. I’d rather spend that money on a graphics card.

[@techluvin7691]

Absolutely it is legend.

[@Amanojaku8]

I have a 750w Psu 5600 and a 3070. I just bought a 4080 super and going to risk not upgrading the Psu (I've read enough to persuade me what I've got is sufficient, Corsair modulars are reliable and I don't plan to overclock until my next build). My question is, would upgrading to this chip be a bridge too far in terms of power required?

[@retrosimon9843]

No you should be fine . CPU Max about 100w (less if you curve optimize it) and GPU max 320 W. Now throw in some fans, ssd's, pump, etc lets call it 450w max.

[@chocolatemilkinafijibottle4143]

Good to know i picked one of the greats My mains system is 5800X3D based and my old back up PC is almost a 2600k (non K version)

[@dr.talhaawais3858]

Yessss very true 5800x3d is beast and king of all time . I am so glad i have it ❤️

[@nicovega1831]

Before the 5800X3D came out the durons with the pencil trick have been my greatest CPUs of all time. Like 25% more performance with almost no efforts was amazing especially when you consider that I was a teenager without a lot of money at that time.

[@djbpresents9584]

So would 5700x3d be good today wirh my 4070 at 4k or if upgrade to 4080?

[@Ryankurwa]

would you recommend upgrading from 5800x to 5800x3d?

[@IsaandAli]

I did that 2 years ago and I saw a decent improvement.

[@Ryankurwa]

@@IsaandAli think I might just wait for the 9800x3d or whatever it's called

[@Charlymander]

I still want mine :')

[@joncarter3761]

I regret buying a 9900k over a 2800x when I built my current rig because there's no upgrade path for me.

[@defectiveclone8450]

A AM5 Ryzen 7600 with DDR5 6000 CL30 feels snappier in windows VS a 5800X3D with DDR3600 CL16 :) so if you do other things apart from gaming its nicer using a 7600. The 7600 also uses less power while gaming at 64w vs around 80w for the 5800X3D