Is an Ergonomic Mouse Worth It? Logitech ERGO M575 Review

[@DSL-Edge]

This is an excellent review. ... I’ll just say, however, I’ve been in the ergonomic field for 40 years. I have worked extensively with, for example, classical string musicians with severe pain & dysfunction of the arms and hands. I saved a LOT of professional musical careers that would have ended due to so much pain in their arms & hands. ... For ME, these trackballs from Logitech are TOTALLY stress and tension reducing. Yet I can see where they would need some getting used to for SOME people. But the fact is the “reversible thumb” is designed to do a wide range of motions, whereas the wrists and other fingers are not. So I highly recommend giving these devices a try. But give it some time to adapt. ... A world class violinist who switches to a viola (almost identical except for a small size difference) can suffer quite a a lot of stress and pain for a period of time, even though there is very little difference in the instruments except being in little larger. But because their neuromuscular system is so used to one VERY precise pattern of movement, switching to an instrument that only requires a slight change in reach when playing is enough to trigger an sense of unfamiliarity, which can trigger a pain pattern. (The nervous system loves familiarity, and hates unfamiliarity.) For some people, even slight deviations of movement can produce a pain pattern even though NO real damage is actually occurring. So, don’t give up too soon if you try this device.

[@bomcabedal]

Violist (and decades-long Logitech trackball user) here. I think part of the trouble is also the viola music itself, which is somewhat different from the violin repertory. Particularly in larger ensemble, there's a lot of repeating patterns.

[@supertrexandroidx]

Definitely takes some getting used to, and I've discovered over the years that many people, when they try a mouse like this, simply don't adjust its settings appropriately for their needs. Just tweaking the pointer speed and trying it with and without the enhanced pointer precision in Windows can make a big difference. But it mostly just takes time to get used to. There's no way you're gonna just plug it in and it's going to feel right for you. Probably need a minimum of a week of regular usage before it starts to feel somewhat natural to use. For me, it's awkward when I go back to using a traditional mouse: too much moving around, and too easy to swing my camera in completely wrong directions when I'm playing a game. Plus I often play on my couch or bed and that can be difficult with a regular mouse. :)

[@hackersarchangel]

I concur, switching to a trackball is a very different experience. My dad used one for a long time and whenever I worked on his computer I had to adjust myself. Ended up getting one for myself, and now I’m looking at this one to put in my bag for travel use. I think even for people who won’t have Windows and use an alternate OS (Linux or macOS) should consider dialing in the settings, it will really help. I’m also keen to try this with my iPad, since on that platform there isn’t much adjustment to be made.

[@orbcontrol]

Hi David. Would you be willing to try out our new ergonomic product?

[@xinyubao5965]

I have both MX ERGO and ERGO M575. One is in my office and another is for home. As a 3D modeler, I really would like to recommend tracking ball mouses for people who have a workflow that heavily relies on mouse. It feels weird to use at the beginning, but after a couple of hours you will get used to it. Before I use a tracking ball mouse, my arm and the joint between my arm and palm could easily feel pain, nonetheless this problem was all solved by the tracking ball mouse like a magic. Now I can sit and work for hours without feeling the pain.

[@EddieGooch]

Which one do you feel more comfortable? I'm still deciding which one to get.

[@Ursus1985]

@@EddieGooch I don't know if you've made your purchase yet, I have an M575 now, had the MX ergo. If either is going to be a desktop solution for you, I recommend the MX ergo with the caveat that the MX ergo uses a micro USB for charging. The adjustable angle is worth it. If it's a mobile solution, the M575. The battery life is long enough that it won't be a problem, 20 months on low-energy Bluetooth, or a full 24 months on the USB receiver.

[@Righteous628]

Not all trackball mouses are created equal. The Logitech M575 is BY FAR,THE MOST SUPERIOR TRACKBALL MOUSE. IT HAS NO RIVALS. NONE.

[@nikkig1146]

What are your thoughts on the vertical mouse? How does that design compare to the ERGO kind?

[@Ghost19_]

If this is your first time experiencing a trackball, then it really is understandable if you are struggling with it esp with precision pointing. Trackball does takes time getting used to esp if you want to completely master it. For others, it's pure BS, for us who managed to love trackball and learned how to use minimal muscle effort, we LOVE it :)

[@eduardopatricio]

Well said, I think a review from a trackball first timer should always consider that notion. Honestly I have no patience for people passing quick judgements on trackball devices like this. I stopped watching mid-video

[@claudiojunior1853]

You seem to understand the matter, I would like to ask a question about trackball mice; Did what the lady say about the little joints of the thumb wearing out faster make any sense? Thank you very much if you can give your feedback, as I'm looking to invest in a trackball for my laptop (I like and really dominate the trackpad) since certain functions a trackpad can't do, whether it's playing games or spending hours with one cross bone over the other lollll :D (I'm Brazilian, I hope my English is understandable)

[@Ghost19_]

@@claudiojunior1853 her statement regarding the thumb wearing out is a very good example of a beginner or new to trackballs, you'd might experienced that at first but in time and with enough exposure or experience using it, you'd eventually realized that you really don't need to exert much effort when using a trackball :)

[@gyzq]

@@claudiojunior1853 You can use a normal mice and trackball at the same time. So that so you can make your hands take turns to rest. For me that is, normal mice on my left, trackball on my right, and keyboard in the middle.

[@morrisbennis651]

Holy sh*t I didn't know you can talk that long about a mouse

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

I can talk about anything

[@michaelsmith6938]

@@SwitchandClickOfficial It is not ergonomic, because the trackball is placed at thumb instead of middle index finger

[@acsa774]

It helps to speak at about 10 WPM.

[@IM_UK]

Shittt she still talking about it in the comments

[@spol]

😂

[@juliarice4031]

I have been using this mouse for over 15 years I am a 62 yr old lady who has been in two car accidents with neck issues. I still work 40 to 70 hours a week in Autocad and Excell. Could not work those hours without a trackball mouse. I do not always leave mouse on table top, I tie the mouse to my hand with rubber band or hair tie mouse will work in the air, rested on your leg, held behind your head! Anywhere you can click it! No need to keep it flat on table too to make it work!

[@gothicm3rcy426]

good for you:) Im learning sketchup pro and autocad and with using a laptop and surface, a trackball is the way to go

[@wadesmith3092]

Had my first computer job 62 years ago. When PCs first showed up, I had my first mouse. It was obviously the "standard" configuration. As I grew older, I began to experience hand tremors. I was diagnosed with essential tremors. At that point, it became very difficult to control my mouse. The trackball mouse was a life saver. I have gone through a number of them and have just ordered the latest Logitech version.

[@kbprojekty]

Could you share your experiences with the ones you had? Which ones were particularly good/bad and why?

[@gothicm3rcy426]

so...... pc showed up 62 years ago? erm.... I think not

[@kchinthaka8975]

@@gothicm3rcy426 computer job 62 years ago. Not PC. LOL

[@kchinthaka8975]

@Wade Smith: reminds me of the car mechanics who used to remove over-tightened wheels using wrenches (no pneumatic those days) and had to give jab with the underside of the palm to loosen nuts. Over time some developed issues with wrist and had to resort to office duties

[@beactivebehappy9894]

good to see that yt is now promoting better quality underrated content... Happy to see this change coming...

[@subramoniams9850]

I had a severe pain in my arm and shoulder with a Apple mouse in just a couple of days and it went to the storage. The pain vanished after I switched to Logitech M570. Using it since nearly 7 years. No fatigue as you said. No issues with smaller movements of cursor especially doing some CAD work and things after using it for a few days.

[@bomcabedal]

The (more expensive) MX Ergo has a "fine movement" button which can really help you even more in CAD or design work.

[@willb8343]

Wow your A roll quality has really improved recently, been loving the consistent content.

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

I appreciate that!

[@RabbitInRed]

Thanks for a really informative review. I am a Logitech Trackball fan (any model) for a few decades. I think I have the first one I ever bought that still works. The trick is to remember that the keys and other buttons on what we use don't need a heavy touch. I already had carpel tunnel before I ever used it. It has helped me not get worse. I am administrative assistant/typist - it saved my hands. Again, thanks for the lesson on occupational therapy.

[@lesliemilthorpe]

This is the best review i have found on the M575. I liked that she explained the benefits and the realistic expecation that it can take some time to get used to it which was my experience. Also she went into the software which none of the other reviews did. I also go the logi K860 keyboard which also takes some time to get used to. I like them both. If you have to do precise editing, then have an alternate mouse to do that with

[@LightPink]

Some people like using linear mouse acceleration with their trackballs to help with finer movements

[@ninetenscoffee5780]

from my experience, trackpad is actually the most ergonomics because our hands does not forced to stay horizontally. Since our middle finger is longer, it becomes the pointer and when you rest the palm it naturally want to rest on right, then since your ring finger is shorter, when you want to apply double touch for right click, your hand automatically making a 45 degree angle. So the take way here is to use the right corner of your middle and ring finger.

[@michaellipkowitz5199]

The M570 is my daily driver, so it's great to see this new one covered. I love the feel of a trackball but after a few years I can safely say the thumb-based positioning leaves something to be desired. I've been having more pain in my thumb and lower hand, so to hear an OT address this is really helpful. I think I'll check out the vertical mouse or a finger-based trackball. I also wish they had included a hardware DPI switch like a lot of trackballs now on the market. Thanks for making an honest review.

[@toddmartin7030]

Awesome! Just bought this mouse today and found this review by someone with a lot of qualifications to do a great review!

[@KenImduaikiat]

I've been using logitech thumb trackball for over 2 decades. Yes since they first launched. I also went through a handful of mouse and touch pads as well as tablets. Half of my work on the computer is on photo editing. I can only say that it takes a bit of time to get the hang of controling the curser wtg your thumb. For general use the model that ypu are reviewing will do well, but for high presion works, you'll need the more pricy MX ERGO model. That tb came with a resolution button. It toggles between normal resolution and fine resolution where normal will be like any trackball and in fine resolution the cursor move slowly and smoothly. I have one in the office and one at home. Highly recomended.

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

Oooh switching between normal and fine resolution seems awesome

[@OGBhyve]

Thanks so much for this review. I appreciate it as I've had limited experience with trackball mice like this. One product for a few weeks. My experience matches yours where I found it frustrating how hard it was to perform smaller precise movements.

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

Thanks for sharing!

[@mosharv]

Really enjoyed this video, it was very refreshing to get a keeb enthusiast's take on this ergo mouse! Cool to hear about your education background and found the review much more enjoyable without the goofy voices, would love to see more content like this

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

Awesome, thank you!

[@peksean10]

A great advantage to trackballs is saving desk space. It really makes a lot difference since you don't need a mousepad. Can't go back to normal mice unless I really need precision like when im gaming.

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

Yeah definitely, it's just not great for my hands

[@jasoncabreros]

Thanks for the review. I've been using the MX Vertical for a couple of years now and I wanted to see if there was something better (also quieter). I haven't tried a trackball mouse but I could see my thumb getting fatigued. I may still try one.

[@fcelas]

bought the 575 because of your review, thanks! kind weird in the beginning tho, but after some time i’m loving it

[@notpublic7149]

Couple months ago, I switched from an older model of this trackball to a gaming mouse. I am happy with the change. Although I used the trackball for many many years and this newer version I am sure will be great for quite a few people.

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

I agree! It's pretty affordable too

[@Righteous628]

This Logitech M575 is by far the absolute BEST trackball mouse. It is THE BEST. I have been using it 2 1/2 Yrs. This has no rival.

[@Techx4]

I find it sad that Logitech doesn't make a left handed version of this trackball. I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I've been with them for years but all they recommend for me are ambi mice. C'mon Logitech, think about us lefties.

[@alexhsieh8348]

Try L-Trac. I am right handed and I can use the L-Trac fairly well with my left hand. I actually use a Logitech Vertical and when my right hand gets tired I switch to my left hand and use the L-Trac.

[@PsychoFisho]

Repeat for emphasis; use thumb and index finger on the ball (simultaneously) and your middle and 4th finger will naturally rest on the L/R buttons. Try it !

[@kanishkgaming0007]

Hii I am from India you are such a great youtuber ❤️❤️ love from India

[@kanishkgaming0007]

Please reply i am waiting for your reply

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

Thank you ☺️

[@zeta.x712]

I’m so glad to find a woman reviewer!! Ergonomics are so personal but it also doesn’t help to see so many men reviewers with bigger hands. Keep at it!!

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

You are so welcome!

[@BlueDragon55]

I have been using thumb trackball devices for over 20 years. This is because I initially was working on an extremely narrow work station that did not afford a lot of room to use a regular mouse. I have never encountered the issues described in this video. i guess I am lucky.

[@liljacket]

im a simple man, i hear old school runescape, i like

[@manuelbf510]

About two years ago, the mouse buttons started to fail. The metal components used in the buttons are of very low quality. I had to buy a cheap mouse in an emergency, and more than two years later, it still works. However, I do miss the ergonomics of the trackball mouse.

[@magnolia2957]

I m using Ergo M570 since 5 years and I dont event think about changing it. It solved my hand pain since a second I switched and the issue has NEVER came back. As you said it is a very personal choice and I'm lucky to fit this solution. I wish that everone will get aware what works for them because the classical models with long usage can be very harmful (linking with what you explain at the begining).

[@TonyThomas10000]

Betty...the queen of THOCC! Thank you so much for your very informed professional analysis. I have the M570 and my experience is similar. I have found that you can improve the precision by adjusting the pointer speed in your mouse setup, but that comes at the expense of more thumb movement and fatigue. For some things the trackball works well, but not for everyday use IMHO unless you want to use it in conjunction with a normal mouse.

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

You are welcome!

[@garrettglass8854]

I find the trackball mice to be very helpful for use in a comfy chair. Fits nicely on my chairs armrest.

[@chapileite]

Thanks a lot for the tons of insight on the mouse! I am probably getting a used MX Ergo to explore the world of trackballs

[@computertoucher]

I just got one of these recently and have to agree with the point about the thumb fatigue. I also have issues with the overall hand shape, which in my case causes an additional problem: constant accidental right clicks. If I simply relax my hand with it resting on the mouse, I right click. So to avoid that, I have to consciously lift my middle finger upwards to avoid it... which obviously is extremely uncomfortable. Not for me.

[@alphasixty1316]

In the early 2000s I successfully played Call of Duty at a pretty competitive level using a trackball, it is all about adjustment.

[@misterxenon5068]

I had the accuracy problem with my M570 as well but that problem is completely gone with my Kensington Orbit mouse. The centered balls tend to be more accurate in fine-tuned motions as per my experience.

[@winchester9432]

I remember those back in the 90's. I didn't take to them back then and I don't think I will be using it now. Thanks for the review. It was very comprehensive.

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

You bet!

[@jimmyjam-vc6rf]

The first time I tried a trackball 15 years ago i absolutely hated it but they are now a life saver! It definitely takes some getting used to and even trying a couple different brands. What you said about this particular trackball I completely agree with - it easily moves across the screen but has some difficulty when you need to be accurate or precise. I've tried another trackball with the opposite issue - hard to move across the screen but very accurate when precision is needed. Anyway the main takeaway from your video and using them over the last week is that there is a tradeoff, accuracy for comfort/ergonomics, which at this point in my life I am able to take a chance on them, and so far it has paid off! I just need an ergo keyboard but I'll let my brain master the trackball first LOL Great video! Thanks for sharing your knowledge and opinion!

[@zapa3086]

Thanks for the explanations, I'm from Brazil and it helped me a lot.

[@baronbarbaron]

Nice and relatively comprehensive review. It took me personally about 2 days to get completely used to trackball. On the third I set it more precisely with "Set Point", which allows quite good customization. I have been using the M570 for almost a year. In my opinion, despite the manufacturer's claim, the M575 is a downgrade. I have a friend who bought an M575 and we exchanged them for a few days. We both get the impression that the 570 is more comfortable, although the difference is small, it exists. I'm sorry that logitech have this bad policy, instead of continuing their successful products, to "Upgrade" them. I have a K350 keyboard from the same manufacturer. Extremely comfortable and ergonomic, all my friends want one, but Logitech no longer offers it. Instead, they offer "upgrades" again, but none of my friends prefer them compared to the k350.

[@bomcabedal]

I think Logitech diversified towards the more expensive MX Ergo and the M575 - the former really feels like an upgrade from the 570: sturdy, high-quality materials, adjustable position, fine-adjust button, etc., while the M575 is its cheaper sister and feels flimsier than either the Ergo or the M570. I have both now, the Ergo at home and the M575 at the office.

[@blake112x]

I think the real appeal for this mouse would be the ability to move the cursor without moving the mouse itself. So that means this mouse could be used on any surface. So maybe you have a setup in your bedroom, leaving room, or maybe outside (on-sight somewhere) that a proper mouse would not function as well with nomal arm movement. It seemed odd to focus the reason on why you would buy this mouse becuase of pain caused buy using a standard mouse.

[@jenserikbech]

Thank you for your review. I bought the Logi m650 equipped with the new usb dongle "Bolt" Beside that it is a Bluetooth Mouse. I have a logi keyboard too running "BOLT" But strangely enough both devices runs best on basic Bluetooth. The Bolt receiver interferes with other Bluetooth devices like a loud speaker and induces fault. Drop "Bolt" and stick with the clean Bluetooth options.

[@romari2706]

I hate thumb trackballs. It is far more precise and less stressful to use a forefinger trackball.

[@axllebeer]

I love my trackball. I use the m570 at work and then I got the m575 for myself to use at home and on the go. I prefer the trackball to a standard mouse for gaming as well.

[@migalexdiaz]

I searched youtube for reviews on these trackball mice, thinking I'd look at a few opinions from average people using them. I happened to click on this one first and I was pleasantly surprised to find such an expert on the matter reviewing it. Thank you!

[@geoffrey-alcampbell8415]

Excellent video! Appreciate the expert review!

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

Thanks for watching!

[@H2Dwoat]

Hi, I am looking at this mouse currently. I have used the previous M570. I bought one for work and ended up buying a couple for computers at home. There was definitely a learning curve for fine work but larger movements were intuitive. I did find some initial muscle pain but that soon settled down and I think it was due to using a different group of muscles and hand position. Having used it for several years I won’t go back to a non trackball.

[@jonedow2381]

Nice video, subbed. Keep up with the good work, chị 👍

[@ander172]

So at first look seems good option, But question is that instead of carpal tunnel you get another thumb issues. So I am not sure if this really have some benefits. Yes best option to check and try.

[@PLively]

I have its predecessor, the M570. The switches behind the buttons are very poor quality on both my trackball and the replacement, the M575, and you'll be lucky, with daily use, to get more than 1 year out of a Duracell battery and 2 years out of the mouse. If you're prepared to spend £40.00 every two years on a mouse, then go for it.

[@MrEternalFool]

The subscriber count is rising fast!

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

Thanks!

[@ArnoWelzel]

Using a trackball also means practice. I've been using trackballs for more than 25 years now and have no problems with fine positioning at all.

[@RalphLovegrove]

I use the M570 and a HHKB (which brings the right hand position closer than a full or TKL board). I tried also mousing with the left hand which alleviated some fatigue but caused other issues. I've suffered radial and ulnar pain and the best fix is to learn how to use the KB to achieve as many tasks as possible, learn to touch type, have the right desk height and set up the monitor to you can see at a reasonable distance. But this design does help at least with avoiding pronating the hand. I'm thinking of building a wooden wedge to increase the angle of the trackball.

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

Nice to know! I'm also using a HHKB currently, definitely digging the layout of it

[@Mr_3raqi]

I've used one of these mice before, they're certainly not for everyone, with these types of mice, if you use them for extended periods of time, your thumb muscles will get tired pretty fast, and may even trigger an old injury like in your case. but I would think it will be useful for someone that works in a small area that you can't use a normal mouse in because of the cluttered work environment or small workspace, Or as you said, people may use it to go around some sort of injury they have. love your videos btw :) And thanks for the detailed and extensive review (like always)

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

Thanks!

[@khendilee895]

you are doing god's work

[@RamonOchoaMusic]

Excellent video Betty. The wired version of this has been around for many years, pre-scroll wheel and forward/back buttons. This or the Marble trackman (not sure if this is still offered) were the Logitech options. Kensington also has a few variations but it's been a while since I had to support them at work.

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

Thanks for the suggestions!

[@infin1ty850]

It's funny, I always got crap about using for using a trackball for gaming. One I got used to it, I never wanted to go back to a standard mouse. Twitch memory is so much easier and frankly, I haven't played a game that twitch movements have mattered since I was younger.

[@Xero_Wolf]

I picked up one of these today unintentionally. I needed a new mouse and I saw this one with the trackball. Silly me thinking it was a combo type setup with the trackball and a regular laser mouse. Rather than just return it I was like it's worth a try. I can say right off the bat the precision movements are harder. I do a lot of video editing and graphics work so fast precise clicking is very important. I'm only been using it about an hour now so so I'll give it a couple days and see how it grows on me.

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

Hope it works out for you :)

[@revraitah]

Ngl, I almost bought M570 not knowing that there is an successor for M570. I think I’m gonna buy M575 one. This video really came in the right time, thanks!

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

You're welcome!

[@jin6000]

Fucking hell your voice is relaxing. Lol. Thanks for the review.

[@StromboliKicks]

I was hoping this would be my chance to not spend >100€ on the vertical to see if I can get rid of my pain that I've had for so long that it started from the wrist and is now on shoulder/neck. Thanks for the detailed review.

[@TechBoy1]

I didn't know you could only use the trackball for moving the mouse. I thought it was optional. great video!

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

Thanks!

[@rubenb.molina6968]

These are thoughtful insights. I currently use the M570 and I like it a lot - to the point I can't see myself using a regular mouse. That said, I am considering alternatives a split keyboard setup. While setting the trackball in the center seems like the choice, I wonder if there is any other pointing devices/multi touch/touchless that's worth trying (on that note, considering the Apple trackpad, but not sure what else is out there). Thanks again!

[@cujotwentysix7519]

Great to see that Logitech have refreshed their trackballs. Hopefully it's not as expensive as the MX Ergo, which I shelled out way too much money for

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

It's about $50

[@cujotwentysix7519]

@@SwitchandClickOfficial I have no idea what mine would have cost in the states, but it was the equivalent of about twice that

[@DarrenKrusi]

@@cujotwentysix7519 paid $150 for mine in Australia and I did that twice for home and office. If it keeps for 7 years I consider that money well spent for less elbow pain which is what I got

[@rogersmith1470]

@@DarrenKrusi ditto

[@felinette65]

I have used the Logitech trackball style mouse for many years. The M575 is the best thus far. You can set it most anywhere. I wouldn't use any other kind and keep worrying that someday they will stop making them. I disagree that you there isn't much you can do with the logitech options. You can program any all of the buttons (and there is quite a wide choice of items). I can do several things with mouse that I don't have to go to keyboard to do (i.e. mute, open browser tab, press enter, etc.)

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

thanks for your input!

[@o_o6869]

very good indeed keep up with good work fellow being.

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

Thank you fellow being

[@mirceaflorinprecup]

Thanks, I will skip buying it (promo price) since apparently working with spreadsheets will be difficult.

[@winwinwin282828]

i never use a regular mouse after using a trackball.

[@garywutube]

upgrade to middle finger control trackball

[@gaitrybhogal1437]

Love the Logitech trackball M570. Would never go to trackpad or other types of mice! Looking at M575 as getting Mac air so need Bluetooth connectivity.

[@doublepinger]

In my experience, it's key to disable mouse acceleration. In general I hate it, because it makes for really weird movements. I use a Marble Mouse USB on highest sensitivity, no smoothing, and no accel.

[@kchinthaka8975]

tried the ERGO M575 yesterday. Pretty sure it puts the same (or even more) pressure on the position of the wrist that leads to Carpal Tunnel. i.e. the bottom of the wrist still touches the desk. I suppose a vertical mouse would prevent this. That will be my next port of call. BTW, At least a regular mouse you are moving your hand around, unlike this trackball where your hand stays in one positions and with the wrist touching the desk, surely this adds to the pressure on the carpal tunnel.

[@DarrenKrusi]

Will you be trying the MX Ergo? There's a dpi switch button that you may find useful when needing to do those small/fine movements. Also could be because you aren't getting enough of an angle with the M575 especially if you found the Vertical comfortable, my wife uses the Vertical and loves it as she gets no wrist issues using it whereas I champion the Ergo and it's variants die to pain at my elbow. I feel you should give the Ergo a try because it has the adjustable angles and dpi switch that may improve your QOL when working. The Ergo plus which is apparently only available at Best Buy in the increases the angle another 10° which I would love to get a hold of but may just get someone to build a vertical base for it as I'm in Australia.

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

Not anytime soon

[@diegoyungh9697]

I can't use anything besides MX ERGO, to be honest I got so used to the precision button whenever I'm drawing with it, and the different angles. Sometimes in the cold I even put it on top of my lap under the blanket to navigate. I never used the M575 but I could see fro the video it is way more basic.

[@bikrgran]

I have just gotten a Macbook Pro M2, and operate in a recliner, so a mouse, per se, isn't really practical. I have a Logitech M570, and the ball has never been very accurate. None of the mice/balls I have work well with the Mac. Have you used this with the Mac? How consistently does it work? Everything I have is sporadic. I don't really want to spend $100, and the track pad is painful to use, if used a lot. Thanks! This video, is not new, so I'm just crossing my fingers that someone with experience in this, will reply. Thanks!

[@TheThirdWorldCitizen]

Seems like a very solid product

[@JoVeda_xo]

Good reviewerrr

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

Thanks!

[@mariorossi9300]

I think it's also a question of habit and personal preference, I completely stopped using regular mice way back in 1996 when I got my first Trackman Marble, and in almost 3 decades I've only kept buying new trackballs, I get uncomfortable just by looking at people using a mouse. Excluding the wrist pose itself, why would you move your whole hand and forearm, instead of only your thumb? It's just inefficient.

[@reptilespantoso]

thank you

[@divaker02]

1:20 “LOOOONG 3 month internship”😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@loaymohamed5301]

Can you recommend me buy m575 or mx ergo or mx vertical .. which is better?

[@ycn3611]

Are you a Vietnamese? Just asking because I saw your name.

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

Yes

[@trwent]

Mice to trackballs is like toothpaste to tooth gel. Once you switch, you never go back.

[@ObliviousNaz]

The perfect mouse for 1-key games

[@marthawhitehouse9838]

I don't agree with you on the precision issues. I don't think that you are very familiar with using a roller ball stationary mouse.

[@Cons2911]

I’m a software dev, plus i play pc games all the time. I think ill buy this one, my thumb might get tired I’m guessing.. but i think if my thumb get tired i can switch to trackpad for a bit. At least it wont be the wrist every time. Ill get the other model though. At least to have my wrist rest a lot more

[@OO-xc7zg]

Thanks 💥👍

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

No problem 👍

[@currentresident7760]

Love my t bc21

[@TheWiseRabbit]

I really like the Marble Mouse trackball. Would love to know which you like better.

[@ADDAS-ro8jc]

If talking about ergonomics, isn't a joystick better option.

[@gleitonfranco1260]

When I bought a PC with real graphic interface, the first device I bought was a trackball, not mouse. And the design wasn't all that ergonomics ;D ;D ;D

[@notinajaronmars]

Regarding the twisted wrist (pronation) thing though…. This mouse doesn’t really get your forearm out of that position “muscle knot “ causing position right? I been using a new contraption called a vertical mousepad where you use a regular mouse on that turns your arm 60 degrees. Check it out. I hope it helps you guys with your mouse using discomforts. It’s called orb control mouseramp.

[@murky39]

It's worth it if you like the feel of ceramic (idk what i just did there)

[@nirjalkabra7385]

Will you do a setup tour?

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

Already did

[@nirjalkabra7385]

@@SwitchandClickOfficial oh i will check it out I actually new to the chanel

[@BriBCG]

Haven't tried this trackball yet but I tried the Ergo advanced. They totally ruined it for me with the software (and it didn't work with the old setpoint software) by removing the acceleration controls, I tried the windows acceleration and it just wasn't usable compared to the low acceleration setting I use in setpoint. I can't picture using a trackball without acceleration, it's too hard to make big movements otherwise. I've heard you can use third party software but instead of messing with any of that I just sent it back. Now I see they've completely replaced the m570 with this m575 which makes me nervous for the future. I've got 3 or 4 of the 570s laying around because the microswitches wear out fairly fast, I guess I'm going to have to start trying to repair those or go second hand.

[@NeeksBee]

Yes, list those credentials!

[@Earthto888]

What is the regular white mouse that you show, is it a glorious model O mouse?

[@laxman538]

just a quick question it works as does normal mouse if needed?

[@my_99]

Is it compatible with logibolt ? As i see, it comes with unifying receiver. But as i know M575 is working with logibolt , so is there two version of this mouse ?

[@hehehoho788]

The 575 busines ver. came with bolt