Is Apple's Nanotexture Display Worth It?

[@JustJoshTech]

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[@Fracture1603]

I bought a 14" MBP with nano texture but ended up returning it for a normal screen after 10 days. It is nice but I found I preferred using my older M2 MBP screen as the nano texture just took that extra bit of contrast away in a way I personally didn't like and text didn't look as sharp with more of a fuzziness/graininess to it in IDEs as you mention with the rainbow effect. Don't get me wrong it is a good option for some and for a day or two I kinda liked it but after a week of using both my new and old machines comparing the two I realised the normal screen is more than good enough unless you're using it literally outside with the sun shining directly on the screen which I never am so I was just paying €170 more for something I didn't actually enjoy as much as the normal screen. It is of course personal preference at the end of the day, some will love it and some, like myself, won't find any value from it. I am a developer so spend almost all my time looking at text be it code or documentation. With some video watching on it too of course. I highly recommend anyone thinking of ordering one with nano texture to use it in person first if possible.

[@m.hreels9822]

No, I don’t think it’s necessary. I thought it was cool at first, but it’s actually gotten really muddy to look at and I regret spending the extra money

[@seanvideoediting]

Samsungs anti reflective coating is the future

[@BeeRoyLee]

You have to clean it with a special cloth like the one included in package. For extra stubborn spots an alcohol based cleaner with Apple recommended ratios should be used.

[@aaaryan_goel]

​@@seanvideoediting Apple's anti reflective coating is better

[@Gizmosis_]

Hi Josh, this comment isn't relative towards your video, rather aimed at your website. I'm an SEO specialist and web developer. One small thing with your website that might help user experience would to have your "Buy Now" links set to open in a new tab. I think this would greatly help users, especially on mobile who are wanting to open multiple links to compare prices across your site. It also keeps your websites bounce rate down, improving your SEO slightly. Thank you for your content as always!

[@JustJoshTech]

Very helpful. I'll bring this up with the team

[@JZ300]

I would also mention that the google guidelines suggest having user optionality in choosing where to buy from (not just a single buy button), and having preset price range filters in addition to the custom price range input ya'll already have is recced. Ahrefs did a video on this using RunRepeat as their case study, as those guys really beefed up their traffic in a short period of time using those and other practices (all covered in Ahref's video).

[@t87h21]

I've owned a 16-inch Macbook Pro M1 with the normal display since it was released. Last week I also bought a 14-inch Macbook Pro M4 Pro with the Nano Texture display and I'm absolutely thrilled. No matter what angle I look at the display from, there are no reflections. It's matte and extremely high quality. In a direct comparison, the display only has advantages and no significant losses. I hope other products like the iPhone will get this option in the future.

[@PlatinAviation]

I have the same 14" 12c M4 Pro. No nanotexture, I don't regret that at all. Like you said - you get used to moving the screen to find an angle with the least reflections

[@claer000]

You should display the same image on all screens to compare !!!

[@lvseka]

I still value display quality, colour vibrancy and pixel sharpness over glare diffusion.

[@KoenKooi]

After using the nanotexture screen for a few weeks, I can confidently say it was the right choice for me: I can use the laptop all around the house without being bothered by glare. My previous intel MBP was only useable on my desk or living room table. With the nanotexture display I can finally use it on the couch again! With 5 years between the models, the decreased contrast doesn’t bother me, I find the screen better in every way. If you’re coming from an earlier Apple Silicon model you might have a different opinion :)

[@newQns]

Finally some real and useful information on that matter. Thanks.

[@nobesschoolie7974]

I feel like the actual solution here is to just buy a matte screen protector for like 10 bucks instead of Apple’s insane $150 upgrade

[@WhatWeMenWant]

exactly!

[@andyH_England]

A matte display protector could be better, but it will do the job. The nano display is only necessary if you are outdoors a lot. It really is a boost,, as you do not need asmuchh brightnes,s, and the screen is more readable.

[@Thz_man]

Come on, folks are buying a macbook for thousands of dollars 150 is small part in comparison for a nice upgrade

[@owlmostdead9492]

You’ll have blooming like there’s no tomorrow, if you want to ruin your display go ahead with that 10$ and diminish your screen

[@jacobporter419]

​@@Thz_manThat's exactly how Apple wants you to think. Congrats, you fell right into their trap

[@Empire277]

Hey Josh, I hope you see my comment. I just recently bought a 16" MacBook Pro and when I plugged it with the charger, I feel a slight tingling shock ( not shock, just a little vibration) when I rub the surface of it. Is it normal ? ( I researched on internet and it says it because of the 2 pin charger as it has no ground connection )

[@vizualyse]

Hi, This is basically the case with all laptops with metal casing. I've had three different laptops over the years (including a MacBook pro 2017) and have felt those "tremors" - and yes, it's basically whenever you plug into sockets with weak/no grounding or use 2 pronged plugs that don't have a ground pin. Hope this helps.

[@newQns]

@@vizualyse Very interesting, I thought I just imagined this. xD Thanks for clearing that up and it's not a problem I guess then?

[@Empire277]

@@vizualyse Thanks brother for the information. Will it harm my MacBook ?

[@vizualyse]

​@@newQnshaha yeah, I used to think it was just me too, initially. I'd still recommend a well grounded socket AND changing your laptop's adapter (if possible) to a 3-pin one for your own safety. Performance/battery-wise, I've seen no (noticeable) impact, so I guess it's alright. P.S. this is a personal experience thing, I'm no expert lol

[@vizualyse]

​@@Empire277honestly, I don't think it does (I'm no expert here tho). I used my MacBook for years without any noticeable impact. But for your safety, I'd recommend switching to a well grounded socket; you could even use one of those adapters with fuse protection. Plus, if you're in a lightning prone region, please be real extra careful - nothing is more important than your life: laptops may come and go haha.

[@AmB_AI1]

I noticed something that nobody has mentioned so far. When you look at the nano-texture display from different angles, the quality changes. At the store, I viewed the screen from the side and noticed that the glass display looked much better. Any small change in the viewing angle noticeably reduces the quality of the nano-texture display.

[@Oxygen.O2]

Great video as usual, thanks Josh!

[@dustinnguyen5901]

Would definitely buy and stick to nano texture. Just wish skus with nano texture were available from stores like BestBuy, Costco, etc.

[@nahomgetiye2468]

Hey Josh, sorry for asking this on another video, but I noticed some of the laptops on your deals page are listed as unavailable when I click through. Are these deals truly out of stock, or should we expect them to come back? It would be great if the listings were updated to reflect the current availability. Thanks!

[@JustJoshTech]

Hi, could you let me know which you are clicking that are like this? Please email [e-mail]

[@koreankorean5645]

The Lenovo slim pro 7 2023, the Legion slim 5 16 2023, the Omnibook price not matching it's actual price after Soo many days of price updates, and many more. It's honestly been extremely frustrating to use the website lately.

[@PerpetualPreponderer]

“I’m going to get quite neurotic and bring up a bunch of findings nobody else talks about” That’s what we came for brother! Thank you for this, it’s helped me decide. And I watched quite a number prior to yours. And yours is the only one that actually helped. You know the what why how of tech decisions. Just curious, were you a business or financial or some kind of analyst before KZbin?? PS: to Josh’s mom: HE’S AWESOME. Parenting tips please :)))

[@JustJoshTech]

Awh, I'll pass this along! Thanks

[@JustJoshTech]

Btw check out my other channel, it covers what you are asking about: www.youtube.com/@JustJoshBusiness

[@linnforsman]

Great video, you're the most sensible KZbinr I've come across in years!

[@abdinasirmusa8777]

I prefer the vibrant display of the non nano texture display

[@edwinamoakwa5409]

Can you do an episode on laptop repairs, specifically macbook, It turns out for me that, the cost to replace a broken M2Pro Screen is a third of the price of an equivalent one

[@Avarent01]

So you are telling us that Apple has finally invented matte coating again?

[@louis_sharp]

they did it 15 years ago what do you mean?

[@MacA60230]

It’s way less image degrading than a regular matte coating

[@louis_sharp]

yeah, it isn't a coating, its actually etched into the glass at a nanoscopic (hence the name) scale instead.

[@louis_sharp]

I have it on my M4 Pro MBP and I wouldn't go back

[@t87h21]

I can confirm

[@alperenozturk654]

What’s the difference between matte screen and nano texture. I have asus tuf a 14 ryzen 9 hx 370 with matte display. It also cancels reflections and it’s free. Let’s imagine someone who really hates reflections on laptop. In that scenario which devices should that person pick. Matte display windows laptop or macbook pro with nano-texture.

[@rohithmekala2608]

The nano-texture is glass based that is etched to diffused glare

[@Anvillgroup]

The matinee display on Windows devices and Apple’s nano-texture display both aim to reduce glare in bright environments, but they go about it differently. The matinee display typically uses a matte coating that diffuses light, which can sometimes make the screen look a bit grainy. On the other hand, Apple’s nano-texture display features a fine, microscopic etching process that helps cut down on glare without losing sharpness or brightness, delivering a clearer, more detailed image. While both technologies tackle the same problem, Apple’s nano-texture display does it with a more refined and visually pleasing result.

[@alperenozturk654]

@@Anvillgroup Thank you very much for the response. I think it would be nice to see a video of Just Josh channel comparing the best matte screen windows laptop with apple's nano texture screen laptop. It would give a better understanding if it's really worth 150 dollars.

[@Anvillgroup]

@ you’re welcome!

[@binhtranquoc8777]

Nanotexture only is good overall, like for coder and other use. But not good for designer, because it make the color a bit weird.

[@Finkysaki]

Hey Josh, will you guys be covering CES this Jan? I'm very interested in hearing your opinion on the Zenbook Duo 2025 / any other dual screens announced this upcoming year. Much love from Melb ❤

[@bruh-qi7ue]

what about how deep the blacks are? I've seen in videos the blacks on the nonreflective screen are way more gray cause of the softening effect

[@chrism1051]

It's normal for contrast to suffer. Even the Samsung anti glare on their book edge lose a bit of it, not as much as this macbook, but some to be noticeable

[@raymondeliorda]

ON THE TOILET!!?? 😭😂

[@azhyhama9649]

So refreshing you didn't milk the video to 20 min 🤣 whenever you guys publish a video I watch them because you don't waste time!

[@granfel1984]

Very good explanation, I bought MacBook 16 with nano and for me is worth

[@IMVURYSMART]

Yo josh I need a laptop for programming and gaming Can't choose between the Lenovo yoga pro 9i, Lenovo yoga slim 7i aura, Asus ZenBook s16, Asus proart (prob not cuz it's 60 Hz) Could u rank them and add any other one if appropriate

[@jdsd_]

Are you seriously considering windows on ARM laptops for gaming? Thats a pretty bad idea unless you only play simple games

[@DustyKing]

Buy an Apple,silicon Mac

[@jdsd_]

@@DustyKing Thats nonsense. For gaming, Mac is still very very far behind, since only a handfull of games are made for ARM chips, like the silicon ones

[@DustyKing]

@@jdsd_ imagine buying a computer for gaming when you can buy a $330 ps5 right now. There’s no point in spending thousands on a computer to play games if gaming is your main focus. Computers make sense for Professional software use, but not for gaming. Consoles are better and way cheaper.

[@jdsd_]

@@DustyKing Oh, so youre one of those.... :D Have you ever played a highly modded game? I guess not, since there is almost no mod support on PS5. So, people who like to mod their games need a PC. You know who else needs one? FPS Shooter players who want high refresh rates, since you cant get those high refresh rates on a PS5. There are so many reasons why someone would prefer a PC over a PS5. But of course, if you only play Single Player Story games you dont need a PC.

[@tinybit780]

Exactly the same experience, matte is also better for your eye health

[@TerkleTon]

The Nano Texture display is Amazing. Especially if you use Dark Mode. Apple will price match.

[@nostradamus8933]

I believe that only a person without eyes could look at a nano-textured display, because what it does to colors and how it blurs the image would be unpleasant for anyone who has ever seen a normal screen. You should only buy it if your job involves staring at the sun through your MacBook’s screen. Just my opinion.

[@Harshsuthagaming]

Sir did u sign a deal with chatgpt or what cause i got recommendation of your video in my solution

[@JustJoshTech]

Wow that's super cool

[@beace4436]

i'm a software engineer. im considering either a M4 24GB 1TB for £1790 M4 Pro 12c 24GB 1TB for £2040 M4 Pro 14c 24GB 1TB for £2140 do you guys think it's worth the price to get the most expensive M4 Pro? both the M4 and the M4 Pro 14core are from Costco UK whereas the 12c is from Apple with Education discount

[@mobiledevlife]

I’m also a software engineer, and since we’re doing this 8h/day, honestly I’d pick the best CPU I can afford 🔥 had the m1 max so far, but the m4 pro has almost 2x the cpu performance, so I’m upgrading to that. Ideally also to 48gb memory 😄

[@dp6igw977]

there is no need to mention " I used it at toilet " 0:40

[@bryans8656]

I think the money would be better spent on a memory upgrade.

[@MrAwesomeGuy91]

sigh... I literally just placed an order for nano textured MacBook an hour ago..

[@jdsd_]

Ok, so what? :D Ive you decided to get it for your specific situation you are absolutely fine. It is not bad, not at all, and I know a few people who absolutely love it and wouldnt go back. It depends on your use case

[@thang0106]

People hype this "whatever stupid name Apple came up like they invent it" matte coating like it's 30 bucks instead of 150 😂😂😂

[@jdsd_]

I get what you mean, but its not a coating, its lasered into the glass, so a lot more time consuming and expensive. But of course, 150 is still way to much :D

[@TheDanEdwards]

It's like you don't know the difference between a plastic matte film and "nanocoated" glass.

[@Wunderkinddd]

All KZbin experts say get the nano but all dumb comments say stick to glossy. I tested it myself and found nano is much better for your eyes, watching content and making content.

[@Oxygen.O2]

There is no right or wrong on this matter, just a preference so stop calling people dumb. I hate matte displays, I'm in the minority, and it's just me. For other people, only your eyes can say, go and see by yourself.

[@Tailong]

So are you saying this channel ,JustJoshTech, is dumb comments...? lol

[@JudgeFredd]

Yes it does to me.

[@abdinasirmusa8777]

So the trick is to not use a MacBook pro with non nano texture display

[@moreducttape]

i eat apple

[@Tigerex966]

On the toilet😮😊❤!

[@RobloxianX]

This reminds me of the Nanotexture iMac back in 2020. When you could just buy a $30 screen attachment, Apple was charging $500 for that thing!

[@TheDanEdwards]

"When you could just buy a $30 screen attachment"

[@RobloxianX]

@@TheDanEdwards literally the same thing

[@fVNzO]

I think in a video all about nano texture it's odd that you don't really show the differences side by side. You have a couple shots (where you use different wallpapers even) but that's about it. I mean you should've had some more b roll in here with actual side by side differences using the same wallpaper and lighting conditions. Otherwise this video is just simply not very useful to be honest.

[@ReR7474]

Not worth here. The sun is always hiding behind those thick clouds and is dark just after I get up.

[@jdsd_]

You from the UK? :D

[@TheBadFred]

Did not buy it. Use my MacBook mostly inside or in the shade.

[@masmullin]

Hi Josh, can you fiddle with your audio settings please? Your breathing in inhalation is rather distracting.

[@JustJoshTech]

Sure we can do a de breath in future

[@skipper63400]

It was obvious from the beginning that matte is better than glossy (whatever stupid terms Apple invented). I am old enough to know that business laptops were always matte, what we were calling "multimedia" laptops for content consumption were glossy. Apple was glossy and sucked for years till now. Boosting the brightness to burn your retinas was never a good solution

[@Tigerex966]

Not better except at decreasing sharpness black levels contrast clarity and glare for extra cost. I say different rather than better. When reflections are not bad glossy win every time

[@Toglander]

Yet another KZbinr who isn’t showing an actual comparison between the nano-texture and glossy. How about some close-up comparisons of images and text? Compare the contrast and black levels of each under different conditions. Pixel peep so we can see the true differences other than providing only vague anecdotes.

[@JustJoshTech]

We tried that, btw. But we found our cameras didn't pick up the level of detail you are asking for. Certainly not at 8 bit color, which KZbin uses, and with their compression levels. What we are doing though is investing in an updated Spyder X tool to improve our display measurements for more advanced displays. Hope that helps

[@Toglander]

@ - You don’t have a macro lens, or something else with a close focusing distance? What about just comparing the black levels under different lighting conditions? Or you could just take images of each screen with the same image and text on it, and if your camera has a high enough resolution, you should be able to zoom in and compare the detail. Basically, we just want verifiable evidence of how it affects sharpness and contrast. Your opinions are nice, but each of us has different interpretations of those opinions. Verifiable evidence eliminates speculation and provides true answers.

[@JustJoshTech]

@@Toglander We absolutely invested heavily this year in lenses. We definitely have a macrolens. We used in a couple of shots that compare the 2 side by side. You may see it used in our video of "Which MacBook should you buy". What we found is that when we put the footage through processing, it did not match what our eyes saw. We had 3 of us verify this to be sure. By the way this isn't the only time this has occured. When we play you guys back sound from a laptop's speakers. The same issue comes up. Often times what is captured through the mic makes one laptop sound better than another but in real life its the opposite. For this particular issue we even worked with Sennheisser to get a different mic, which we use just to record laptop speakers. It helped but didn't solve that issue. In this case we often don't play you guys sound samples when they will be confusing. We just describe which is better and why. TLDR; 1) We could have done a macro shot side by side and at least stated "heres what the 2 look like side by side on the same image but be careful, in real life this is what 3 of us observed". That would be a useful add 2) I'd like you to take away, that this is alot more complex and challenging as it seems, and we are doing a huge amount of research and investing alot to bring you accurate content.

[@rey6253]

Simple answer, no. I returned mine because white colors look really bad, grainy screen. I would pay more to get the glossy screen to be honest.

[@andreaslassak2111]

Grainy and hard to focus and read

[@LAMethWitch]

omg… I’m sold on nano

[@randy89555]

That ugly notch isn't worth a penny

[@TheDanEdwards]

Now neurotic are you?

[@seanvideoediting]

They actually boosted artificial reflections in Sequoia so people will upgrade to nano texture ☝️🤓

[@michele_]

I've yet to watch the video but just so you know, it scratches EXTREMELY easy, as easy as plastic (see Jerryrig video on the latest ipad pro) So I'd avoid buying that

[@michele_]

Correction: not as weak as plastic but just slightly stronger... Still way weaker than normal glass

[@jdsd_]

@@michele_ Ive had many different laptops the last 15 years and never ever did anything even touch one of the screens, let alone leave a scratch. I am always wondering how people manage to scratch their laptop screens. Just be a bit more carefull with your devices helps a lot lol

[@michele_]

@ ok but did you understand what i said ( I'm not trying to be passive aggressive)

[@jdsd_]

@@michele_ Yeah, I got it :) Its good to keep in mind!

[@glebs.]

Increasing brightness to combat reflection is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. Who cares about eyesight? I’ll just increase the brightness instead of tilting my display!

[@jdsd_]

Thats what I thought aswell :D Ive heard so many people in reviews saying they dont need the Nano display because the macbook can reach 1.600 nits anyways, so just turn up the brightness if you see reflections lol. Sure, I want 1.600 nits of brightness blasting in my face for hours a day, probably excellent for your eyesight! :D