Is BFS Worth it OR Just A BIG FISHING SCAM? (Bait Finesse)

Every time we post BFS content we get a pretty even split between "yes, this is awesome!" and "you silly losers should have just bought a spinning reel!" So, it begs the question, should BFS even exist? We dive into some of the key arguments for, and against, BFS fishing. And if we're being honest there's something to be said for both sides.
What's your take on BFS fishing, where is it headed and should we even be headed anywhere!?
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[@dylank97]

this and the "ned rig" got me boggled. i been using a 3in senk on a small jig head since i was 9, plus rapala has been making small "finesse baits" wtf is the dif

[@Jason-416]

It's mostly just preference. Whatever you're more comfortable with is what you should use. Love my baitcasters and for lighter stuff I prefer spinning. It’s hard to beat the smoothness of the spinning reels drag.

[@tagg946]

i live in the northern part of the midwest and bfs is a bit of a game changer for me. being able to downsize full sized presentations that are traditionally used with regular old casting gear is really nice around smaller fish. the control you have with a baitcaster compared to a spinning rod over finnicky, large bass when you hook them on bfs is great and its just plain fun. Something about pitching around a micro jig/micro texas rig on a spinning rod just doesnt feel right to me, so i got into bfs. the last several bass ive caught over 4-5lbs were all on bfs, and ive been catching them more frequently and consistently since i started using bfs. it just gets bit in areas where catching anything 6+ is rare.

[@ballzybaits4414]

I usually have about 8 rods on the deck. Usually 50/50 spinning/baitcasting. Now, I have around 60/30/10. Baitcast, BFS, spinning. Main reason is so I can lay the rods in one direction without tripping over the darn spinning rods handle! 😅

[@Internetpilot]

Almost the exact same thing happened with Tenkara. Most Americans were like "Why? I've had a cane pole since I was 6 years old," or "Why not just fly fish with real equipment?" Personally, I fell in love with Tenkara because of the artistry, simplicity, and mostly the fun of it. It's just a simple alternative to western style fly fishing. With BFS it's actually not a more simple alternative to spinning ultralight fishing as much as it's arguably a better alternative. Baitcasters are simply a superior reel system/design to spinning reels. Sure that's a debatable statement, but it's more factual than it is just opinion. I love that I can now do more with a baitcaster. I love using my baitcaster combos, but those were previously only useful for larger fish. I love going after smaller species of fish (hence Tenkara), but I really don't like spinning reels as much as I do baitcasters. All that being said, I'm not jumping headfirst into BFS and throwing a lot of money at it. I currently have one relatively discount BFS combo, and I'm working on putting together a second (but insisting it also be relatively inexpensive). I have probably plunked $100 or so into "BFS" baits/lures, but almost all of those can be used with my ultralight spinning gear, too. I didn't get "suckered" into BFS -- I simply got more interested than I previously was in ultralight because of BFS. I like ultralight fishing, but I also really like baitcasters. For me it was a great answer to a personal dilemma with fishing.

[@justincrawford1325]

I just got a bfs setup Thursday. I want it because I am much more accurate with a baitcaster than a spinning setup.

[@FishingwithAllyG]

BFS a new style of fishing...why complain in fishing one thing is constant lots of choices! I love BFS and am still feeling out what set up is for me. Thanks guys always refreshing to get an honest opinion man!

[@1304GT]

My biggest reason is no line twist !

[@ewwee2k]

BFS origins as I understand it is from Japan. Japanese trout fishermen to be specific. Using modified old baitcasters, like Abu Garcia type round reels to fish for trout on streams became very popular. Both for the ability to throw very small baits and to make wrist cast in tight spaces. As with many things in Japanese culture, fashion and Esthetics played an equally important role with function. The more this gained popularity the more tackle companies took interest. This is why Shimano made a round BFS reel & Daiwa Silver Creek reel. It all bleed over into the bass work and here we are.

[@raygissendanner1476]

Great information thank you happy Easter

[@dallis11]

Totally agree with you! Its all in the anglers choice. The great thing about fishing you can catch on anything thing from a cane pole to a Megabass rod and reel Just have fun and enjoy being outdoors fishing!

[@leepao6302]

I’ve been fishing BFS since 2009 and still loved to this day. My intro into BFS is after my visiting from Japan start to develop a interested to it and then it’s a obsession now. Early of 2019 as I remember is when BFS is starting to get a lot attention from the mainstream fishing industry after that year Kastking release the first quote and quote and USDM BFS reel the Zephyr that is budget friendly too. But just a side note this is not the first the time the US fishing mainstream industry tries to bring over BFS. They try back in 2012 by tackle warehouse, but it was never catch on to most angler due to price given at that time. So my opinion on “should you or should you not” buy into this BFS thing people calling it scams? The real question is are you a person love to try new things or do you want it when it comes to fishing? If your answer is “No” then don’t buy it; it doesn’t get any simpler as that. Seriously… this shouldn’t be any debate at all. I’m surprise there’s stup!d people complain about shit they don’t want it. Plus in my honest opinion as a person who been doing BFS fishing for so long; if you think BFS is stupid and it’s a scam? then the BFS community don’t need you neither, because you’re giving the BFS genre a bad reps and don’t need negative narrow minded nut head to this community. There I say it 😂

[@aaanglers]

Well said! Everything is a debate these days 😂

[@BanksOpenKayakFishing]

To put it simply: BFS is fun. People that have never used it can’t really speak on it until they’ve at least tried it.

[@davidsparrow1176]

I've never fished a bait casting rod. I've only fished smaller, fresh water bait casting reels, down tide fishing off a boat. Never tried casting. Because I've never had any instructions / tuition on how to use the reels casting and how to set them up correctly. I think using a bait casting reel set up to me, is technically more difficult, than using a spinning reel casting. I use spinning reels for beach fishing. But I know people who are definitely cast further using multiplier reels / larger bait casting reels. So I would very much like to learn how to use a bait casting set up. But don't have the confidence to try it, without help and tuition. Sadly I don't know anyone in the UK, who fishes that way. Don't think I've honestly seen that many bait casting rods / reels in the tackle shops either. But then I'm not really looking. Learning a great deal more from your channel and adapting methods to spinning.

[@caesarcoloma4631]

BFS Fishing is fun. I’ve been casting accurate , fishing a little faster and more efficiently. It’s great for pressured fisheries. I still use a spinning rod for casting further but for close quarter action I use my BFS set up. It’s been a great compliment to my bank style of fishing. BFS is enjoyable. I’m glad there are budget friendly options now in the U. S. Don’t knock it until you try it! 🤙🏾🙏🏽

[@kouvue3953]

I don’t understand why it’s a scam?,”BFS”you don’t like it”don’t buy it” No worries it’s that sample. If you can’t afford and think it’s a scam”jealous ““mind your own business “. I want it and I’m poor but it’s so much funnier ,also new style of fishing, I’m a fisherman anything that is going to make fishing fun I’m down, It’s lite and I can cast for hours no problem, so my point is it’s an advantage . My set up is an old18, paired with JDM Dawia BFS reel.

[@spfishing0687]

I tried bfs late last yr. And I love it. It really is a lot of fun. So now when I go fishing I'm always bringing my bfs setup and using that more then my regular bass gear.

[@All_is_Outdoors]

Love the content! Appreciate your review and opinions! Totally agree its the angeles choice! If you want to do it and can then do it and enjoy it, if not then just don't. Keep the good stuff coming!

[@MattHeere]

Doing more and more with BFS reels on the kayak because it's just dang fun. I still wade with a spinning rod though because I'm only carrying one rod and it sucks when a backlash ends your whole fishing trip.

[@fishnhub]

I hate spinning reels and won't use them. My "bfs" is a dobyns sierra ultra finesse 7ft light extra fast rod with jdm shimano slx dc xt 70 reel and 8lb fluorocarbon. I don't need to throw anything less than 1/16oz for bass or use 4lb fluorocarbon. If you were fishing for trout or bluegill, you could go lighter, but i don't see any reason for bass fishing. Either way, use whatever you want.

[@matthewmolone9224]

for me bfs isn’t for throwing 1/32nd trout magnets. It’s for throwing heavier crappie jigs, 2 and 2.8 inch swimbaits, booyah pond magic spinnerbaits, 65mm jerkbaits , ned rigs etc. Casts these baits amazingly but for the truly small stuff I still prefer spinning for ease of use.

[@ryanr85]

I think it’s definitely a preference, if people don’t like it then don’t buy it 😂. I’m a fan of spinning and casting.

[@DavidTorres-db9yi]

It is not a scam or to replace spinning gear. The correct term is bait finesse,BFS is a term owned by shimano and used for thier bait finesse reels and rods. Bait finesse has its place especially in japan. The bait finesse concept was developed by pro bass angler yukihiro sawamura in 2011 for highly pressured bass in clear water lakes,in or around cover and structure. The biggest advantage it has against spinning gear is the ability to use heavier lines 6-12lb fluorocarbon that would be a hassle to use with spinning reels, 2-5 lb fluorocarbon is what they use in japan for finesse fishing with spinning gear and still be able to pitch or skip light weight usally 3.5-5 gram lures/soft plastic rigs around cover and structure keep in mind japanese bass fishing is mostly done with fluorocarbon line. Bait finesse originated as a cover fishing technique that utilizes light weight shallow spool baitcasters with high gear ratios and rods with strong backbone and soft tips to help pitch or skip the light baits and stop bass from going back in cover. Japanese Bait finesse rods are mainly bass rod's with fast actions and soft tips even the UL and Light power models have serious backbone and fast action's.

[@kevingrandke6075]

After watching this vid i bought a KastKing Zephyr for $34 (slightly used) with some kind of 4lb braid. Back lashed a few times then upgraded the line to Reaction Tackle 6lb and not had any issues...But I will upgrade the bearings for sure!

[@GreatWyrmLord]

What makes a baitcaster a finesse baitcaster? Is it just a lighter and more shallow spool? Are the internals built different too?

[@aaanglers]

All of that and more. The design allows you to cast ultralight lures aka under 1/16 oz

[@GreatWyrmLord]

@@aaanglers Thank you for your reply. So I can't take a baitcaster with a deep spool and replace it with a shallow spool to make it into a BFS acting baitcaster?

[@midwestwarriors2616]

I love BFS it’s extremely fun. BFS was developed originally for trout fishing in Japans small streams where it would be impossible to Cast anything else but a bait caster that can throw tiny lures. I use mine here In Iowa on the driftless region and have been able cast where some of the fly fisherman can not

[@MrRednexus]

Bfs is the best thing since slice bread My setup: 23 Shimano Conquest with roro spool paired with Old18 buoyancy UL rod. Been using this since the last 15 trips My other combo is 21 Antares DC with Shimano MH conquest rod. Sitting in the corner of my garage for 5 months now.

[@aaanglers]

🙌

[@ivanivan9507]

greetings, I'm from Croatia. I can say that you two are great. i started bfs technique in 1918 when i bought tailwalk fullrange bf81 reel and black hole dark horse c642L casting rod. after some time i came across your channel. after that I now have a shimano slx bfs reel, a soloking acura and a soloking bmc100 reel and two more bfs rods from Poland (the company Dragon t46 graphite fuji equipment...) BFS rocks !!!

[@aaanglers]

Awesome!

[@ivanivan9507]

From 2018 i am fishing bfs ...my bad not the 1918 😂😂😂😂

[@ivanivan9507]

Anyway great technique keep going guys!!!

[@treehunter1]

I started with BFS first then got a UL spinning setup. I kinda like the spinning better, but maybe because my spinning combo is very specialized while my bfs combos I got without any thorough research

[@borreholic7238]

As I commented more or less with the same words a couple weeks ago: If I prefer throwing a 3/8oz or a 1/2oz lure on a baitcaster instead of on spinning gear, why is it strange if I also would prefer throwing a 1/8 or 1/4oz lure on a baitcaster as long as it's castable? The inherent benefits of a baitcasting setup don't evaporate into thin air just because we go down in lure weights.

[@blind_eye_fishing]

You can 100% throw 1/8oz on a none bfs reel lol. Diawa ca80, shimano slx mgl 70 will cast that all day on a medium rod lol. I cast 1/8oz jig head with small grubs and 2.7in paddle tails on a 13 fishing mh moderate crankbait rod with the shimano slx mgl 70 and 12lb line. I can't cast 1/16 oz though and that I'll use a spinning setup for.

[@borreholic7238]

@@blind_eye_fishing That seals it -- BFS is a scam. That's a quick transition though from not being able to throw 1/16 at all but being able to throw 1/8 "100%" on a non-BFS reel and medium rod. If you throw a 1/8oz crankbait "100%" on that setup I can only congratulate you. But there's more to it than castability, how lightweight the overall setup is for example. The Shimano SLX MGL 70, however great for its price, comes in at 200g. That's 65g or over 2oz more than my $80 BFS reel...

[@blind_eye_fishing]

@@borreholic7238 nd!!! Well the Daiwa cc80 will also do the things my shimano mgl 70 does lol its light as well. But seriously whats a extra oz in your hand you really can't tell a huge difference when you're using ot especially when it's on a super light weight rod 😂. And it's only what 60$ lol

[@ryanr85]

I know you guys are just starting to get on the water again, I'd love to just see more vids of you two fishing. Love all the gear stuff but it would be nice to see more of you two just going out and having fun. I liked the videos of you two and Ethan slaying it out there.

[@aaanglers]

Working on it!

[@Fether_outdoors]

I've now built 8 different bfs setups that are technique specific. I love it!! Ultralight to Medium. I honestly like to build all my setups to be technique specific, so I own many setups. Plus I hate tying lures 😂

[@FreedomFishing]

I enjoy bfs for the accuracy of a baitcaster. And use the same muscle memory for casts from everything from the bfs to the swimbait rods.

[@BudgetFishingSupport]

I just find baitcasters more comfortable to me. Its really preference at this point. I would never knock someone who genuinely enjoys spincast reel. Theres some high end versions of those and those wouldnt exist unless theres a market for it. Like yall said. How can you really diss bfs when you havent tried it

[@chriswilliams4342]

I have been using a Daiwa Tatula SV with 8LB floro on a 7’2” Med for years. Throwing light Ned’s, tiny Swimbait,or micro chatter baits. What would I gain from a BFS?

[@aaanglers]

Nothing unless you want to go liggter than 1/16 and/or use 2-6 lb fluoro

[@chriswilliams4342]

Thank you for the quick response

[@thesonorandesertangler]

I have 1 BFS combo and I'm definitely going to invest in another one at some point. It's just fun. I still use spinning rods, but I've been loving using a BFS combo for trout, Panfish, and dink bass 😂

[@ReactionGiants]

For ponds, i love bfs combos over spinning rods

[@THEEnfantTerrible]

I bought a KK Kestrel rod and reel to get my feet wet and I love it, especially for horizontal fishing…as in crank baits and small spinners on 6lb braid I still prefer my ultralight spinning rigs for slow vertical retrieves like jigs and micro neds

[@BxErock]

Great Video, Shimano Slx Bfs left /right 6.3 gear ratio on Amazon for less than $175.00

[@cotharyus]

I just pulled the trigger on a budget (value?) BFS rig today, so it was funny to see this video drop. I've fished spin cast and fly for 40 years, bought a med-heavy bait caster last year, then a heavy because pig jigs, and I couldn't help but wonder - would some of my small jerk baits not work better with a BFS rig? So here we go. I'm sure I won't just throw away my ultra-light spinner, but I can see it getting less time on the water if this works.

[@aaanglers]

Nice!

[@TheSinistral]

I Couldn’t have said it better. It’s just a different way to finesse fish. I’ve used BFS stuff since about 2005 when I wanted to throw my Super fluke jr wireless. I got a Chronarch 50 then a Daiwa pixy then 16 Aldebaran… I now have 2 Conquest BFS, 22 Alde and a KK VE 2… it’s not a fad. It’s a philosophy. Making 2lb bass fun.

[@aaanglers]

💯

[@BrianKuhl]

I don’t have a valid opinion, but I have other wants prior to becoming informed… like a dedicated crank set up 😆. It’ll be something to consider once my arsenal is a bit further along 😬.

[@cjstammfishing2017]

2026 elite anglers will use bfs because the waters “too pressured”

[@annalongfield]

I use bfs on spinning setup. I don't feel like I need to replace my rods and reels because I want to use new lures. I already have ultralight spinning setups.

[@kevinmcglothlin7347]

Flipping and pitching is my thing. I can’t with a spinning reel. I just can’t be accurate with a spinning. I think BFS is perfect for drop shots

[@garyporter1707]

Is bfs systems being used or allowed in the pro bass tournaments?

[@paulglass7268]

Really limited usage

[@techtiger38]

Buy a spinning reel for half the price. Furthermore, the lures aren't cheaper. I think it's a neat idea. It's a community like the swimbait game. Not everyone needs a 7'9" rod and 300 class reel. Not to mention the prices of glides and swimbaits. At the end of the day, it’s a preference. For me, I'd rather spend on JDM products and the swimbait game.

[@inteljumperxx]

What’s the swimbait game

[@techtiger38]

@@inteljumperxx sure

[@inteljumperxx]

@@techtiger38 thank you for answering a newer anglers questions and welcoming into the community

[@raygissendanner1476]

I have heard that you can use a bfs baitcaster reel on a little heavier rod like a medium light rod is that true

[@aaanglers]

You can for 1/8 oz stuff, but you really need a lighter, whippier rod for the lighter lures

[@raygissendanner1476]

I have the zephyrbfs reel on a light 7' rod and I will be trying out tomorrow have a happy Easter

[@aaanglers]

@raygissendanner1476 happy easter!

[@larrystolzman9337]

I’m just researching BFS. Why all the controversy? Fish what makes you happy. If it works for you who cares about negative comments or opinions. Last year I caught an 11# 7 oz catfish on a 4’ ultra, ultra light spinning rod using 4# line. Who cares what rod I used, except for me it was the most fun catch I’ve ever had in 60 years of fishing. That includes any equipment and any fish. Even a 44.5” (25#) Muskie on much heavier casting equipment. If someone doesn’t like how you are fishing don’t waste your time fishing with them or reading their comments. Just smile and catch another one!

[@aaanglers]

People just like to argue 🤷‍♂️ We are with you 🙌

[@borreholic7238]

Sometimes I wonder if the "You don't need X" crowd even enjoy fishing. They talk about fishing as if they only fish because someone told them to ("You sir, go and have fishing as a hobby" ... "Ok, I guess I'll have to do as you say"), and now their only goal is to get something "useful" out of it by getting to X amount/size of fish caught on the smallest budget possible, without even having the level of enjoyment enter the equation. And that comes from me who see myself as frugal in general.

[@aaanglers]

Nailed it!

[@fishingthe262]

If BFS was truly a thing, wouldn’t guys like Fujita and Ito be doing it on tour for their finesse presentation?

[@paulglass7268]

Not when you’re giant fish hunting. None of those guys are using ultralight either.

[@fishingthe262]

@@paulglass7268 we chase giant smallmouth in my neck of the woods. We use light powered spinning rods, a lot of crappie style baits and line that ranges from 4-7 pound test. No one is doing it on a BFS setup. I wouldn’t go so far as to say BFS is a scam, but it’s completely unnecessary. I have yet to find a situation where I’ve thought, “man I wish I had a bfs set up right now”. With that said, if you’re into BFS and it’s keeping you excited about fishing, keep doing what you’re doing. Even on tournament day it’s still all about fun.

[@paulglass7268]

@@fishingthe262 a 7,6” light rod is nothing like an ultralight. I’m in MI, big smallmouth is what we do. I don’t target 5lb smallmouth with BFS either. That doesn’t mean you can’t or that BFS doesn’t have a place. Would you frog with a light spinning rod? Flip? No, it wouldn’t be as good. BFS isn’t necessary but that doesn’t mean it isn’t great at some things.

[@eddyray-yb6ig]

@@fishingthe262 what unnecessary about having a preference? i can throw dynamite in the lake and say using rod and reel is a scam.

[@fishingthe262]

@@eddyray-yb6ig first and for most, I never said it was a scam. Go back and actually read what was written. I said if you’re into it and it keeps you excited go for it. Reading comprehension is an actual thing.

[@don-kx5zh]

its like the argument that we dont need baitcasters i have friends who hate it because its hard and expensive.

[@stokes2189]

I don’t even understand why some of these topics even exist lol. What the person across the lake is fishing with has absolutely nothing to do with me lol. I don’t own a single BFS item, however, I love casting with my casting reel. I’m better at my spinning reel, but prefer my casting. If I can have fun and enjoy my casting reel, yet throw the small spinning reel baits, I totally would. But that’s my prerogative. I’m the one fishing for me, not you 😂

[@aaanglers]

Totally agree! Do you and don’t yuck other peoples yum! That’s our opinion!

[@eddyray-yb6ig]

yeah considering you can get a bfs reel for 30 bucks that out performs 500 dollar shimano reels is proof its not a scam. whats a scam is relabeling made in china products and selling it for 5 times what its actually worth. 99% of the bfs rods made domestic or in japan are from china. you can buy rods directly from there for less than 50 bucks but if you want a shimano label on it you gonna pay $300+ for the same quality. im pretty sure these guys have their own rod they trying to sell thats made in china. if its close to 100 bucks, thats the scam.

[@eddyray-yb6ig]

@@aaanglers a scam is selling a made in china rod with no fuji guides for almost 100 bucks.

[@aaanglers]

@@eddyray-yb6ig I won't defend the free market antics, that's kinda how it is. Would love to see a link to the $50 reel equivalent to the $300 reel so we could check it out. Let clear up a few things since you've been trying to pop off on us in our comments though... 1. We don't sell any rods. We did a collab with Monsterbass last year on a SPINNING rod. We don't work with them anymore. 2. We don't work with any of these companies, so whether you buy them or not doesn't bother us. 3. Send us the links to these products that are 1/5 the price so we can put them head to head in a video with the overpriced options and prove that the cheaper ones are better. Thanks

[@eddyray-yb6ig]

@@aaanglers soloking acura.

[@johnmejorado13]

New subscriber here, I like your content. Enjoyed your take on BFS. Thank you.

[@aaanglers]

Thanks for the sub!!!

[@ericpettyfishing]

I like both and use both. I also put bfs reels on 8ft crappie poles. Fishing with a pole is fun No matter how you prefer.

[@aaanglers]

Agreed!

[@yankeelipperfishing]

I come from a tournament background and love BFS. Baitcasters lay on deck much better, tangle way less often, and are way more accurate to cast. A note to you guys on speed. A Bfs reel is not even close to a spinning reel in line pick up. When you have a micro spool you need like twice the gear ratio to pick up the same line. The main factor for Bfs is FUN. I could teach you guys a thing or twelve. Keep Chankin' Bros. Yankeelipper

[@eddyray-yb6ig]

if they were selling their own bfs line of rods made in china. they wouldnt call it a scam.

[@yankeelipperfishing]

@@eddyray-yb6ig All these guys promoting this and that. And none catch fish like me, Who's the real scam.

[@eddyray-yb6ig]

@@yankeelipperfishing lmao

[@michaelrohde1112]

Sounds like fun and ain’t that what fishing is all about. I’ll have to look into it next time I’m in the market for another rod and reel. Who am I kidding, I’m always in the market for a new rod and reel. Definitely going to look at bfs in the near future.

[@aaanglers]

💯

[@garyalexander7024]

Really wanted to hate you guys - but you’re like Beyoncé’s new album… I just can’t! You are actually one place on the internet where I feel like I’m getting product information not biased by commissions to sell it. You have aligned yourselves with the interests of your audience not the manufacturers. That’s a good thing and I hope you are very successful. I’m very interested in DC reels. Especially the lower priced offerings: Looking forward to your thoughts on that one.

[@aaanglers]

Swe have donee an slx dc video in the past. Honestly I don’t care about em much. The just make a cool sound. We grab our regular braking system reels 9 times out of 10. Thanks!

[@kevinescobar6467]

Look , if you like to zip and whip rods out like a Kitana while casting and finesse a move like jerk and twitch to get a fish . go with BFS . Shits a lot of fun .

[@ReactionGiants]

Scooper frog is must try 🙌

[@mikem8502]

I caught a 17lb carp on BFS gear the other day and it was a blast

[@scottemory72]

I love bait finesse because I hate spinning gear….actually I suck at using spinning gear is why I hate spinning gear😳Plus, I have tiny hands so a BFS reel feels in my hand the way a 150 sized reel feels in a normal person’s hand😊

[@willtrax71]

I would like to try out a Kast King Kestrel though lol I bet it casts amazing.

[@rloera601]

Yes BFS is last I caught an 8 pound largemouth on a pound test on a small 1/4 ounce spinner. It was awesome. Yes I do like BFS I’m using a Kistler chromium 801 with the BFS four wanted yes this awesome.

[@annalongfield]

I use bfs for trout. It gets me lots of bites where others don't get them.

[@mick9850]

There is absolutely nothing I can do on bfs that I can't do on spin.. you absolutely don't need it.. but it's fun throwing around finesse lures on a baitcaster. Here in Australia, we do a lot of finesse fishing for bream, and for a long time I wanted a BC that I could use for bream when the bass season finishes here. Now that it's possible, I have 3 bfs combos in the boat at all times. The biggest issue with bfs is domestic availability and our fishing here is done primarily in salt water. A lot of BC reels don't handle salt well. Pretty much all spin reels sold on the Aussie market are designed for salt water use, and if they aren't, they don't sell.

[@aaanglers]

💯

[@seizedcarcass8440]

BFS isn’t exactly needed but man is it fun. Imo it opens the door up for ultralight fishing but still doesn’t needs to be in your arsenal. Yet!!!!!

[@aaanglers]

🙌

[@SpaceMan-lr1os]

I mean, I love fishing with light tackle. But I can’t see spending that kinda money on extra set ups, just to do it with a bait cast reel. When I have so many spin set ups at my disposal. I know guys love it, and more power to them. How y’all spend your money is up to you. But to me it’s a waist, I could put that money towards more traditional bait cast reels. But that’s just my opinion. Cause I’m Spaceman 😂

[@LouisianaTimberHusky]

I think BFS has a place in the market and is a viable option to try and get a hook in a fish's lips. At this point it's not an option for me but if or when i feel it might be then I'll try it.

[@aaanglers]

🤙

[@don-kx5zh]

i want to start bfs what do i need to buy

[@aaanglers]

The new kast king kestrel rod and reel are a good value.

[@don-kx5zh]

@@aaanglers thanks i am probably going to get them

[@nasaman23]

I'm not against BFS. I just think they need to bring down the price so more people can try it

[@aaanglers]

It’s starting to come down now

[@gardybienaime7998]

It’s 100% worth it I’ve been fishing for a year now with regular rods and reels I barley catch fish with a bfs set up I caught my pb bass and a whole bunch of fish

[@thomasallar169]

Not against BFS at all id love to try it and wouldn’t mind paying for it, but how do such small lures catch big fish??

[@aaanglers]

Small finesse lures have been catching fish forever. Sometimes Bass want a smaller snack. Big bait, big bass is not always true either

[@nicholashubert4834]

Wait so you telling me comma space man that you aren’t sponsored by BFS?

[@aaanglers]

😂 nope, the actual genre of fishing “bfs” a non business entity, did in fact, NOT sponsor us

[@nicholashubert4834]

Total Jeff response! Love it! Keep it fun and fish on!

[@adammoua8677]

BFS is life! Lol but I also carry a spinning rod along with me on my kayak.

[@aaanglers]

Same!

[@rougaroux2359]

To be honest BFS is a freaking blast. Do you need specific line sure it makes the experience better as these guys have said. But for me catching 2 and 3 pound Crappie on BFS. I still use spinning as well. Folks keep the lines tight and those lips sore!

[@aaanglers]

Heck yes!

[@patrickhartman6818]

Lol I love BFS and I'm 64 years old.

[@tedlincolnsfishinglife]

BFS for the win!

[@DHM_Creative]

"Handing" has some ultra light bait caster rods for a pretty fair price, i don't think i've seen on this channel 🤔

[@aaanglers]

Never heard of them, but will look into it!

[@gregorypowers6808]

I have a magic l and love it

[@DavidBronstein1961]

I have a Magic and agree 100% its a great rod for the money. I got it for $37 when Amazon had a 50% off coupon for it. Just got a Mavlos for the same $$ and it’s a noticeably lower quality rod.

[@PsychoSynoptic]

Ayy don't go talking about that micro texas! That's my multi species secret sauce! But why don't you peg or bobber stop your weight?

[@eaglestrike09]

I know a lot of people who just dont use baitcasters at all.

[@glennschramm7255]

too each his/hers own

[@aaanglers]

Agreed!

[@Beartaria_kayak_angling]

lol down the youtube fishing conspiracy rabbit hole - the bfs-hemonion grove 😂😂😂😂

[@ReelAZMatt]

BFS is fun.

[@blind_eye_fishing]

Its a simple cash grab from the industry. Many dont cast below a 1/8oz very well and you can do that on multiple standard 70 to 100 size reels that arent bfs specific.

[@leepao6302]

Speak for yourself… plus if you don’t like it; just don’t buy it. How complicate is that logic. No one is putting a gun on your head to go and buy it. I guarantee there’s things you do that I don’t like it either. 😂

[@blind_eye_fishing]

@@leepao6302 simple fact is it 100% is a cash grab for many of the companies. You can do exactly the same things with standard reels on a medium or medium light rod ad so called bfs setups. Now I'm not saying all are that but...for the most part it is. Without upgrading multiple things in most the reels you won't cast light (actual ultra light) lures on them. That was proven by a guy that only fishes bfs now lol smh. He has a list of like 2 maybe 3 reels that are actual ultra light bfs reels.

[@leepao6302]

⁠@@blind_eye_fishinglogically never believe anyone who never done it or used it … jokes on you because I’ve been fishing BFS gears since 2009 so I have to say you don’t know what you’re talking about it. Plus we can say that to literally anything we don’t understand or doesn’t like it 😂

[@blind_eye_fishing]

@@leepao6302 haha you should never assume anything. I was building and selling shallow spool reels from my tackle shop in the late 90s to early 2000s. There was no bfs reel in 2009 the first actual shallow spool bfs reel released in 2012. In 2009 a shimano mg was released but wasn't a actual bfs reel. It was designed to throw lighter lures yes but like 1/8th and above was it sweet spots. Go tell your lies ro someone else and seems only novice here is you. I'm 100% a more aggressively above average angler 😂.

[@leepao6302]

@@blind_eye_fishing if you think I’m lying just google Daiwa Pixy 68 it made in 2009 and it’s true that Shimano didn’t get into the scene later towards 2012 but Daiwa started the shallow spool reel trend way before Shimano did; so seems like you’re one lying here 😂 plus sounds like you never visit Japan then. One last thing that makes no sense if you say BFS is a scam as you mentioned but yet you also owned a tackle shop too. These two information doesn’t add up 😂 you’re such a terrible liar 😂

[@markbrandt504]

Bfs is fun. Its not needed. You could just do a texas rig on a spinning rod and youll catch bass anywhere. Nobody is forcing anybody to buy a bfs rod. Lol

[@JoshuaSimonson909]

Someone give me a nice high end BFS rod and reel and I'll put my opinion in 😏

[@Primitivelure]

Good fishing tool.. don't forget put and drink ur coffe..🎉😂

[@terribleatfishing]

BFS: Cast with one hand (more accurate casting) and adjust your drag while reeling (catch more fish). Spinning: You have to flip the bail to cast and stop reeling to adjust drag (you could lose the fish at this point)

[@aaanglers]

Fair points!

[@randallmiller572]

Keep talking about it!!! (B)eats (F)reaking (S)pinning !!!

[@willtrax71]

It’s such a huge Marketing Idea this BFS crap lol when by definition we “Finesse” a 1 ounce Jig punching through thick ass cover, we use finesse techniques to trigger a Bite lol… I would absolutely rather use an Egg Beater to toss a 1/16 oz Jig than a Baitcasting Reel. It’s the better Mousetrap Marketing. Let’s start some Acronym Chatter, Big F***ing Scam, Bass Fishing Suckers etc. lol and Opinions are like A**Holes so there’s mine. Semper Fidelis Guys stay safe

[@dropzBiG]

Bfs is not cool

[@aaanglers]

K

[@dropzBiG]

@@aaanglers at all

[@aaanglers]

@dropzBiG okie dokie

[@dropzBiG]

@@aaanglers in no 🌎

[@Beartaria_kayak_angling]

@@dropzBiGis it cooler than being a hater?! 😂

[@Gavinskey]

BFS has its place but it is not to replace spinning rods. Spinning rods simply have functions you cant get with casing setups. Disregarding that is a real diservice and misleading to your audience and makes me think you just want to sell something that is not "needed". BFS is a luxury item, get a spinning rod before a BFS.

[@aaanglers]

We use both and promote both… but sure

[@Gavinskey]

Duh, why so deffensivce lol... @@aaanglers

[@aaanglers]

What’s defensive about it? You came in hot claiming we mislead our audience. We promote both spinning and bfs, so we don’t mislead. That’s just facts man. Why are you on the offense 😂. We’re just having fun out here. Good vibes dawg!

[@beau_body4152]

@@Gavinskeycry baby 😂

[@scottemory72]

Did you even listen to what the guys were saying in the video? They didn’t mislead anyone; they gave a positive and informative point a view for both spinning and bait finesse. No need to come in swinging like that.

[@planet4allofus]

All the crap you're fishing for I used to catch of the cottage dock with 20lb line on a pushbutton reel and a clip-on red and white float with 4 grams of lead a number 6 hook and half a worm , full equipment about $25,- and unbreakable. Filling a bucket full of fish in ½ hr. Moved on since from this mediocre fishing for 3 year olds. You just like fiddling with ultralight equipment catching minnows with expensive gear. Just being sarcastic but not too far from the truth.

[@aaanglers]

“Just being sarcastic”, nah, your just being rude and making an excuse. We’ve all done the ole push button worm fishing. We like using this gear, so who cares. Does it hurt you? Nope. Also caught a 4 pounder on this minnow gear yesterday.

[@skijaxxx]

AWESOME!

[@Tightt88]

Come on guys, we know, it’s a scam. I can buy a $40 spinning reel that will out perform a $200 BFS.

[@paulglass7268]

Not true, they do different things. Also, a solid, regular sized, spinning reel is a fraction of the price of most standard baitcaster. The price disparity is the same.

[@Tightt88]

@@paulglass7268 I’ll ask you this, what can you do on a BFS that you can’t do on a UL-light spinning setup? The answer? Nothing. And I don’t understand the second part of your reply. All I know is that I can go out right now and buy a quality 500-1000 size spinning reel from numerous brands for $40 and if I want to buy an equivalent BFS, I am spending minimum $100. Not to mention, BFS rods are ridiculously priced too. When I can go out and spend literally $20 on a Micro Series rod (which is fantastic). So $60 (spinning) investment vs $200 plus (BFS) investment. And the BFS doesn’t do anything that a UL spinning can’t do. If you like BFS because you like bait-casters that’s fine, but don’t sit here and make things up saying that “BFS” does different stuff when it doesn’t. You’re going to influence people to spend unnecessary money and potentially sour them on the fishing market.

[@Tightt88]

I’ll ask you this, what can a BFS setup do that a UL-L spinning setup can’t do. The answer is, nothing. Which is fine, the issue we arrive at though is that BFS is far more expensive and there really isn’t a demand for it. If there were, you would see BFS at all major retail stores. So it’s the fishing companies trying to force gear no one wants for much higher prices. The other issue is, influencers are making regular people feel like they need this over priced gear when they don’t. And I know numerous people who invested in BFS and they felt robbed. It soured them on fishing. And why wouldn’t they? I can go out and buy a good quality $40 UL spinning reel and a fantastic $20 Micro Series rod ($60 total investment) vs a minimum of $100 for a BFS reel and another $100 for a BFS rod. $60 vs $200 plus? I’ll go with $60. Love the channel buy the way! Keep up the great work!

[@Tightt88]

Just look at the current bike environment. Companies tried to dictate the market and sell overpriced unnecessary products and it failing right now. BFS is the same thing. There isn’t that much demand but the companies are trying to dictate the market.