Is Botox Making Gen Z Look Old?

[@rehab2see]

Wear sunscreen everyday, re-apply as needed, use tret / retinol, eat healthy, exercise and enjoy this short time on this planet. Focus on health and the important aspects of this short life

[@kathleenpignatari5306]

AMEN!!!!!

[@evedotcom]

👏👏👏 exactly. We overcomplicate and distract ourselves with minor details but this is the key ❤

[@GhostofMrsMuir1443]

I can’t use Tret or retinol. I have a reaction. Sad for me as these are great!

[@ColleenBlevins-gr6pm]

Amen!

[@nope_n0pe]

How old are you?

[@gpeaches]

I genuinely think that young people today who grew up on social media have NO CLUE what people of various age groups actually look like. Social media heavily distorts our perception of what is "normal" at age 20, 30, 40 etc. Those "guess my age" videos are case in point. A woman who looks about 25-30 will have her comments flooded with guesses of 40-50, or people saying "omg you're 25? I literally thought you were 40!". That's either bullying or proof that young people's perception of age and age related changes is so profoundly distorted that they have no real benchmark for normal age related changes since they perceive faces of other generations through edited and perfected photos/videos on social media. Their only points of reference are their peers who are the same age as they are, or their parents who are decades older. For the in-between age groups, their only points of reference are from social media.

[@stevedorecharley2849]

Agree. People on social media look WAY different than the actual humans I see around me every day.

[@cellgrrl]

I get that. I recall back in the early 70's when I was a college senior, one day I looked around me and was suddenly aware of the abnormal world I lived in. For those 4 years I never saw any old people. It felt so odd, that all I saw everywhere I looked was fresh young faces, with the exception of some of my teachers who were mostly middle aged. Four years of that! It felt wrong and I missed seeing older people. Now days it is reversed, it seems now all I see are old people like myself, lol.

[@maddienoelle22]

I don’t think it’s just social media that does this. It’s all types of media, especially movies. I really think most people are really bad at guessing people’s ages and knowing what certain ages look like.

[@Bassingal]

@@cellgrrl First, congratulations on being as long-lived as you are; I was born in 67, so I was probably about 10 or 11 when you were in college. Those of us my age, who grew up in the 70's and 80's, feel that we saw the very best of times, and we feel somehow privileged to have had our youth during those magical years. Every dream was attainable and people basically got along side by side just fine. We all looked young far longer than today's youth. I just took back up roller skating- in my house, on the carpet!

[@Clowanda]

Agreed!!!

[@arturopita8873]

In my opinion the problem are fillers rather than botox. I feel like filler unless it's very subtle and very well done tends to look bad and then it migrates and starts looking even worse

[@mvanilla77]

Filler can also stretch out the skin if over-filled. We have seen that in the case of certain celebrities who get overfilled young and then get it all dissolved and the skin appears a bit saggy afterward

[@ElysV135]

I don't think it's just the filler. I think the issue is that after certain amount of filler, they start to look like 50 years old cougars desperately trying to appear young by undergoing plastic surgery and other procedures. So it's not the filler that is aging them, it's the fact that this kind of look is heavily associated with older women.

[@haliam3666]

I agree. Several of my friends who only use botox look good just minus the wrinkles. However, friends my age who use fillers have great skin but look 10 years older than I do, I haven’t had botox or fillers. I wish I were brave enough to use botox lol

[@BlackGirlLovesAnime6]

I think all filler is bad. Over time they all look bad from the effects of filler.

[@KB-tf8vp]

Totally agree.

[@BonnieLiedtka]

In my 20s I never worried about wrinkles and growing older in my 30s tiny crows feet never bothered me as i aged my wrinkles didn't bother me now at 71 they are getting more prominate deeper but I think of them as a story of my life and except they way we are supposed to age i am happy being natural looking i love being me .

[@Vochknode]

That makes me happy to hear. That's very good for you in every way 😁 I like the idea of it being the story of your life just like smile lines only show how much you've smiled in your life and how much you could be happy

[@Layla-hb8mq]

I was a teenager in the late 80s and early 90s. Never though about this stuff much. Just some concern about what I thought were "wrinkles" on my 20s. I just used collegan cream. 🤷‍♀️

[@_qw3rtyXxYz_]

i went to a dermathologist one year ago and i was shocked to see she suggested "baby botox". i'm in my early 20s and have two barely noticeable fine lines on my forehead. i think letting patients know about their options is great, but also it feels really out of place to recommend this to a young adult instead of microneedling or even laser treatments.

[@wearetheworld9092]

These docs are crazy who manipulate their patients in the name of *baby botox* it's still botox. I'm glad you didn't get them. I hope you do facial exercises. Starting young will ensure your good skin in your later years. 😊

[@sundown6748]

Of course she wanted a new customer that she would have for a long time. Yes and recommend it to make you feel insecure so you’d do it. The only people who do those types of things are insecure. And the fillers and Botox to me make it very obvious the person is insecure

[@destinychild4659]

I don't think she should have said anything about this, if you didn't ask. This is just giving people insecurities.

[@shreyamishra916]

Imo hydration and tretinoin will more than likely solve the issue.

[@Mmmmkaaay]

That's scary. I look at pics at me at 25 and I had zero wrinkles. I would be puzzled and then horrified if a doc recommended Botox. I agree about microneedling. It's great for acne and chicken pox scars and there's zero down time. I do it every 6-8 wks and at 49, people think I'm in my late 30s. I also use SPF every single day and don't smoke or drink alcohol very often. Skin shows our lifestyle!

[@thejaxter6384]

People have started to look like caricatures of themselves Everyone looks the same. I'm 67 now. When I was a teen in the early to mid 1970s natural hair colour and makeup was the fashion. I stuck to that all through the 80s especially when hair and makeup went crazy. I did colour my hair when I started getting a few greys but I kept as close to my natural chesnut as I could. Now my hair is naturally white but I still keep to a natural make up look. Most people think I look like I'm in my late 50s. All that sunscreen (most people didn't use it before the 80s) and skincare twice a day worked for me. Come on ladies, don't follow the crowd, embrace your natural beauty.

[@uncle.d.]

The Worst make up is contouring, which was in the past only used for photo shooting, now a lot of women Use it daily which Looks ridicoulous, esp. When u Look closely

[@RETARDSRETARDSRETARD]

This is the best advice, thank you

[@Jt145-y4v]

Yes!! Everyone looks the same!

[@friedchicken892]

What products did you use🙏🏾😊

[@janebraun4482]

Yes it's a terrible trend that may not 'end'. Coming up to in the 70s a time when beauty was natural, no hair color, and why? To me this was mainly for grays, 80s did highlight only to my hair, easy for the trend was short hair in the 80s. Even then I realized, my natural hair was the best, and, thought why color now, when I don't have to, for colored hair is never the quality of natural hair, ever. What is up with the lips nowadays? Woman want these lips that always look, done. Large lips have little to do with beauty.

[@eleannakritikaki4811]

'Chronically online take' I love that Dr Dray used this phrase

[@00asha00]

not Botox making them look old, but lip fillers, chin fillers, tatted brows and unnatural nosejobs

[@cecee3480]

Yeah it’s the fillers for sure. They are making their faces fuller and heavier.

[@DoritoBot9000]

People use the word “botox” as an umbrella term for any non surgical cosmetic procedure.

[@bnb0510]

This exactly!

[@maddienoelle22]

@@DoritoBot9000no they don’t. They do use it to refer to many different cosmetic neuromodulators that aren’t actually Botox though

[@maddienoelle22]

I literally don’t know any gen z who is actually doing these things.

[@patpatmoomoo5524]

I do think gen z looks older, but rather than Botox it’s due to highly skilled make up application that may be too mature for youthful faces/skin/features. In the affluent, or even middle class, or anyone willing to spend on surgery, I think gen z is copying/pasting a certain look… chiseled jaw, cat eyes, plumpest lips, gaunt cheeks….an example of WTH happened is imo Billie eilish… one album she was 15 and looked 21; ok that’s acceptable since teens always want to look a little older… but next album she’s entering her 20s and she looks 36.

[@LindsayStraw]

Yes, absolutely! On top of the influence of certain trends on social media, younger folks have grown up with these amazing tutorials and access to higher quality products that many of us millennials and older simply didn't have.

[@orbital151]

Umm Gen z men definitely look 30. I have to card people all day at work and I’m always surprised how old the 21 year olds look now

[@AniBerrybear]

i think the "clean girl" look specifically when they wear those tight low buns with hoop earrings and blazers is such an aging style

[@LindsayStraw]

@@orbital151 That's quite fascinating, given most young men probably aren't putting much effort into their looks either way. Do you live in an area where there's a common industry/lifestyle that is more physically demanding? I find the young folks I interact with look about as I'd expect.

[@thehealthinsight4587]

YES - THIS IS EXACTLY THE SITU. THANK YOU

[@beckyc.5743]

Since using red light therapy (3 years ago) and Tretinoin (4 years ago) I no longer need Botox for my 11’s. Being reliant on injections to prevent something that might not even occur is crazy.

[@blueseptember2174]

Did you have to ask for tretinoin from your dermatologist or did they recommend it? I feel like they never give me the time of day.

[@corninyourpoop]

​@@blueseptember2174 you can get it online if you wish to do so

[@boogiedown_]

Much like botox, Tretinoin will only be effective with continuous use. As soon as you stop using it your skin goes back to what it was like beforehand

[@jamecia90s]

​@@boogiedown_ is it the same with retinol?

[@boogiedown_]

Tretinoin is a prescription retinoid specifically used for fine lines and signs of photo-aging (spots/discoloration due to UV). It's much stronger than retinoids found over the shelf but needs to be prescribed. Its definitely cheaper than Botox and useful but what people don't understand is that to keep the benefits of any skin product you *will* have to use it for the rest of your life. Kinda like sunscreen.

[@weltschmertzz]

As a 30-something person, I'm quite contented with my "perceived" flaws now. Cutting social media and toxic people who focus on my appearance rather than me as a person helped a lot. My social circle has significantly shrunk, but the quality is much higher. They are my chosen family and friends who have my back and I have theirs. Whoever you spend your time with says volume about you.

[@lindsayder]

100% financial incentive is the reason for recommending preventative Botox. I don't think people are recommending it out of the goodness of their hearts. It's a business.

[@juliabinford6500]

One advantage of failing eyesight is not being able to see myself in detail in the small screen on a zoom call. I honestly don’t know how I would have coped seeing myself constantly when young.

[@gube1212]

I simply switch off the self-view😄🤷‍♀️

[@mrfluffyminstrel]

Paralysing muscles and not using them will lead to atrophy. I think there’s going to be some really weird and unforeseen side effects of all these treatments.

[@AC-yt9qx]

Stare in the mirror long enough and eventually the devil stares back.

[@claranumberone]

😂😂😂😂 so true 😅😢😢😂😂😂

[@AvecBella]

LOLOL

[@charellesexii6555]

There's truth to this ....

[@SarahBeth9811]

As someone who has suffered with body dysmorphic disorder, this hits home.

[@gokuvegeta3163]

Huh? What kind of mirror do you have? 😏

[@c.mac.new_]

I worked overseas for a year in my mid twenties, and we took LOTS of photos of each other for Facebook. By the end of the year, I had developed this weird fixation with my wrinkles. Hated much about my face. I came back and got botox and filler. But once home, stopped seeing myself in hundreds of photos and the paranoia went away!

[@CLH-k3p]

Dunno. I (almost 35) have been getting Botox for a handful of years now but just got forehead lines and a bit of a brow lift. The BIGGEST thing that has affected my skin positively has been cutting out alcohol. No more puffiness or weird breakouts, etc. I think doing filler is what ages Gen Z.

[@stevedorecharley2849]

So interesting. I have so many thoughts. A big one: it’s got to be wealthier people who can do all this Botox. I am financially comfortable but can’t imagine budgeting for this out of pocket stuff FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE. Also: ageism: Getting a job when you look older is harder. I look my age, 61, and I’m surprised at the obnoxious things I’ve had people say to me about my appearance.

[@hdshjs]

You surely have your vice you spend your money on, unless you are a monk ;) Be it whiskey, your car or electronic devices or maybe travelling (still this isn't necessary for living). If someone wants to spend money on little tweakments every few months - why would you judge them? There is no 'better' vice than other. Unless someone is using money to hurt other people. People's.botox is noone else's business.

[@annaelisavettavonnedozza9607]

Absolutely false. I know someone who barely makes 30k with 2 kids & she has procedures done constantly. You put them on credit cards & payment plans

[@aprilblossoms4]

@@hdshjs​​⁠​⁠not spending your money on vices is not being a monk. It’s called being pragmatic about your finances. Also she/he hardly sounded judgmental.They were talking about their situation and how they couldn’t afford it.

[@wplants9793]

I’d like to see data about how often younger generations look at themselves in the mirror and especially on the phone and screens. I honestly think there were years in my early 20’s where I didn’t have a camera, didnt look at pictures of myself and only had one mirror in the bathroom with poor lighting. I never wore makeup, not a flex but I meant I didn’t look at my skin in detail. I was out there living my life and not obsessing about my appearance.

[@jackdaw99]

Exactly this. They’re living through their lenses, constantly aware. It must take a huge toll.

[@sharontisherman7619]

Thats a very healthy outlook!

[@pjschmid2251]

That twin that was living in Germany, and only got four Botox injections had visible signs of sun exposure. She had freckles and a tan. Her LA twin was lighter and had no obvious signs of sun exposure. I would bet on lifestyle choices as a more likely cause for the difference in their aging than I would the Botox injections.

[@campersruincod6134]

Correct

[@RachelBJ]

Agreed. Her forehead was the most obvious difference, and it's clearly due to sun damage.

[@leticiams1243]

But the german twin look so much happier than the other!

[@lorina13d79]

I still dont think there was a big diff, i actually think the LA twin had more sagging of the skin especially at the 1st photo!

[@aygul386]

German twin has heavier face and more sagging upper eyelids /brows

[@grupochiolecca3564]

I don't know if it's due to botox or not but I've noticed young people nowadays smoke a lot and wear a lot more makeup regularly.

[@weeniehutjr9977]

past generations smoked WAY more

[@n95masck]

@@weeniehutjr9977it’s probably as equal considering the vaping epidemic. So many people started smoking younger, imagine what 5+ years of daily vaping does to your skin.

[@bricksmith1515]

@@n95masckmost 5 years olds don't vape… come on now.

[@candriqa12]

U are def right about vaping/smoking and makeup + less sleep + social pressure

[@GirlDo3]

Millenials drank and partied way more. And then the previous generation smoked more.

[@danyielsays4621]

I work with gen Z and people often times think we are the same age im 37 😮

[@AshtasticAcrobat]

same here

[@LoveSource1111]

I'm 37 and same

[@ceresida]

I’ve been getting botulinum toxin for two decades in my face assymetries after Bell’s palsy. The negative effect is muscle atrophy

[@jess_bounce]

Have you experienced atrophy? What effect does it have on your face? Or would you not notice it until you stopped the injections for a while

[@db-gb5xi]

It's a bit disturbing that doctors have to keep making videos like this about botox and the mini facelifts. As one derm recently said, take that money and experience life, travel to a country you've wanted to see and use sunscreen.

[@whitneybrown4067]

Greetings d b hope u r well n Happy Monday😀👍💜….

[@zinaidaromanova1279]

Did you actually watched the video?

[@Bassingal]

@@zinaidaromanova1279 I watched the video, and I agree that it's a shame that doctors need to make these videos as a direct result of the effects that social media has had on the current population. When I turned 40, 16 years ago, I asked my doctor if I should get Botox, or go to Vegas. He said NO to the Botox, and I went to Las Vegas. I won't go back there ever again, and I absolutely won't get Botox...I like how I'm aging!

[@db-gb5xi]

@@zinaidaromanova1279 I did and other videos on this. Doctors have said they've had 20 somethings coming in asking for procedures/fillers because they want to look like the filtered images they see on social media.

[@klickingkayasmr7585]

Yep! And the funny thing is: people get these tweaks like anybody cares. Nobody cares that much about other people.

[@Avovoom]

I don't think it's botox that makes people look older, it's the excess plastic surgery

[@azsakamoto4582]

Botox gives u face this weird texture idk.. it can make u look older or maybe just bitchier

[@melissaculpepper7663]

No. Botox definitely gives a hard look to women’s faces. It’s not just all of the fillers.

[@ShumilaAhmad]

More people can afford botox than plastic surgery

[@debbiekotch6006]

I think I will stick to peptides, moisturizer, and retinol and Sunscreen. Thanks Dr. Dray.

[@denisenj7648]

I wish ppl would stop talking about gen this and gen that. I don't know who anybody is. Can we just say folks in their twenties, thirties, forties, fifties, etc?

[@blueseptember2174]

Lol true

[@rebeccalowe-hodges8162]

YES! I tooo am sooo sick of GEN LABELS.

[@gelatinscraps]

Well when this video ages, and newcomers click they will think she’s talking about current twenty year olds thirty year olds…so on. It’s easier to just talk about which generation

[@michellelawson6584]

I thought I was the only one 😅

[@vanessasmith9646]

I know right haaha

[@BiscuitsMom917]

I think its the filler that makes them look older

[@eimearpower318]

The twin example is only compelling if the twin who got the Botox regularly hasn't gotten it in a long time (eg. 2 years) or they both just got it recently. Otherwise the twin who didn't get it, could just get it and look like the twin who spent all those years getting it regularly.

[@jaimereynolds258]

Almost 42, and face still doing really well. Haven't had anything done, because I think it makes people look weird. I just take good care of myself. Have to remember that aging is a gift. ❤

[@KFIGS-z3f]

I agree! 👏👏👏

[@womanofacertainage5892]

I've lost too many friends already and I'm only on my late 50s. Friends have gotten cancer, had accidents, etc. Aging IS a MASSIVE privilege and gift. I think it's a good practice to look critically in the mirror less and look at our loved ones more.

[@HollyL56]

I’m 56 and haven’t ever had botox or fillers, I prefer to stay away from it.

[@melissavidic2895]

I agree and not to mention the risk of paralysis possibly, no thank you. I’ll pass. I take care of my skin very well, I’ll be 59 next month and I’m good with that.

[@someonerandom256]

Almost 41, and same! I swear by using a good clinical retinol nightly, though, and of course sunscreen!

[@laurenj6771]

I definitely think it’s the cosmetic procedures. I’ve seen a couple people from high school now (I graduated hs in 2020) that have had work done to their face, and they look considerably older then they are, like late 20’s to early 30’s instead of a 21 year old

[@kathysharp7551]

The mouth wrinkle that botox twin has seems to be way more noticeable than non-botox twin's wrinkles. I think it is because the rest of her face is smooth. So, there is massive contrast between Smith areas and wrinkle areas which highlighting/draws more notice to the wrinkles.

[@N3dita]

Yeah noticed the same as you. Also I feel the botox twin looks slightly saggier/less firm than the non botox twin. You see it too?

[@sillysnaps]

​@N3dita yes!

[@steph678]

It's because the face attempts to makeup for the frozen forehead muscles by moving other muscles in the face.

[@kathysharp7551]

@@steph678 oh, that totally makes sense. Thanks :)

[@bertalippert]

’71 Gen X here. For some reason, a large portion of my viewers on You Tube are Gen Z. There is so much I love about them and watch their videos as well. I’m not a makeup or skincare genre, but I find this topic so interesting as I do often like the fact that by them just viewing my videos they are seeing a 52 year old woman comfortable in her own skin and unbothered by the lines on her face. Sometimes I wonder how common that is to them? I fully support them if they want to use injectables, I just wonder how often they see a different path to aging online.

[@endlessbubblebath]

Thank you for your input! As a 19 year old approaching the big 20 I’ve had to recently consider my own age and how I perceived aging and youth. But I think aging is beautiful. It’s all about acceptance and you truly reap the beauty of life when you accept your place confidently. Aging to me is a lesson, given more and more opportunities to challenge my idea of identity and ego. As I age it’s about letting go and aging is a gift not everyone gets to experience. It’s so we can love ourselves and our life unconditionally and no attachments to what keeps us comfortable. To embrace that is huge. Personally I have premature wrinkles than anyone my age including my twin. My wrinkles are from psoriasis that I now have treatment for. I look at my scars and wrinkles and am humbled knowing my body has shared the same hardships as me.❤

[@bonnieweeks7601]

In 1971 I was sunbathing with baby oil. My skin has a yellow undertone so I turned a lovely golden tan. Now at 69 I have a lot of melasma on my face. I never smoked and think that helps not to age as much.

[@bertalippert]

@@endlessbubblebath Oh my gosh what a wise and insightful comment. And what a beautiful soul you are! I hope everyone sees your comment and that you continue to share your words of wisdom with the world. We need more perspectives like these. 💗

[@bertalippert]

@@bonnieweeks7601 You are so right. Smoking definitely ages people in many ways. And remember my neighbors all did the same thing sunbathing with baby oil! This was when I was around 10, so in 1981 many were still doing the same. I believe/hope we will continue to learn things as we go and it will help us live happier and healthier lives. 💗

[@FitnessSweets]

I’ve been following way more variety of seasoned women to get myself used to seeing real mature skin. It helps but I get into the hole of filters and whatnot.

[@tamarazwinak]

Dr Dray, thank you so much for making all the information you provide free to viewers. Many of us can't afford to see a dermatologist.

[@thanosfield2642]

Botox bombardment on social media is totally a thing and oh my god the imperative need of "you should get XYZ done it's so awesome good marvelous miraculous" by every external factors (media and peers) is nonstop and continuous. Thank you Doctor Andrea for putting a stop on this charade.

[@melissaculpepper7663]

The true charade-The Lie- is that there is no God. Therefore, people are deceived and lost and confused by Satan, who is the enemy of our souls! Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior-God incarnate. Be found in Him and identify with Him and you will have no need to seek after vanity or any other worldly attempts to satisfy and fill the empty void in your soul. Only Jesus Christ can satisfy our souls.

[@z.deutch1334]

The twin in Germany looks more tan, especially on her forehead - which is also where her wrinkles are more prominent at rest (not smiling). The LA twin has lighter skin on the forehead. The differences could just be sun exposure instead of botox.

[@same6158]

Hi Dr Gray, I have noticed you look radiant and healthy now.

[@melanie_meanders]

the twin without as much botox throughout life has a much happier looking smile.

[@kassiopeia5565]

yea, i was gonna say that too - i don't know if it's the botox messing up the other girl's smile a bit, but the twin with less botox looks better to me. i dont want to be biased, but it's true, like her smile is radiant and her wrinkles are honestly barely noticeable, she looks very beautiful upon a glance at the photos

[@LindsayStraw]

Great measured take! Thank you for pointing out the other factors beyond Botox that can contribute to someone looking whatever way. And yes, as someone in their 30s who lives in a college town, Gen Z does not universally look older! I regularly joke with friends my age that the college kids look like babies, and can we believe we all once looked so young?

[@stevedorecharley2849]

Right?!

[@ViCT0RiA6]

6:20 thank you so much for bringing up such a heavily nuanced logical point

[@MathPiHanan]

Zoom has a “hide self-view” feature that I always enable. I don’t want to see myself during an online interaction.

[@SharonBurc]

I think it has more to do with poor diets, lack of exercise (spending too much time online) and using too many chemicals on the skin. I think there may be a genetic component pertaining to epigenetics here that is beginning to catch our eye now that we’ve been made aware of these effects.

[@SAM-bo5xg]

Gen Z actually exercises more than other generations. Unprecedented economic and social stress would be the main factor, but I personally don’t think gen z looks older than previous generations, outside of a few exceptions highlighted by social media

[@Bexiboo.]

​@@SAM-bo5xgthey exercise more? Please explain ?

[@bricksmith1515]

@@SAM-bo5xgthank you. Idk why it's so hard for people to understand this.

[@yourfuturewaifu9061]

Too many chemicals? Isn't like, everything a chemical?

[@GirlDo3]

​@SAM-bo5xg Only person who goes outside in this comment section frl

[@dmarie1157]

When I was growing up, my heroes were women in the science and arts fields. Patti Smith, Barbara Mcclintock etc. They aged naturally and embraced getting older. They were accomplished in their fields focused on their work. Social media is doing women a real disservice.

[@Selebrian87]

If I stop using the muscles in my arm my arm would wither and be useless. How is paralyzing muscles in the face for decades not going to impact people? It’s one thing to get Botox in your old age, but start freezing muscle groups at 20 for years and possibly decades what will the consequences be? Anyone that has worn a cast knows how quickly muscle wastes well imagine what’s happening to peoples faces.

[@bnb0510]

It’s not the neurotoxins. It’s the filler everywhere in the face. Gawd awful lumpy huge lips, overfilled cheeks, puffy faces, etc… People think they’re going for the Kardashian look (which is also way overdone) yet ending up like Darcy and Stacey! 😂

[@jacquelineess1141]

Who cares though? Sucks to be them in 20 years lol, they'll look like senior lizards and I find it hilarious 😂

[@FragranceEuphoria]

The twin that's gotten a lot of botox at 5:35 in the side profile looks like she has deeper wrinkles below the nasolabial folds than the twin with less botox. Why is that?

[@catwoman3247]

Maybe the weight of the botox 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@emilyr.6558]

I noticed that too

[@inkspecialist]

If you get Botox under your eyes it can affect your ability to smile. Not using certain muscles causes atrophy. Muscle atrophy is volume loss, and volume loss can lead to the appearance of skin sagging.

[@FragranceEuphoria]

@@inkspecialist It's not under her eyes though. And they don't use botox for under the eyes. They use filler for under the eyes. They do use botox for the crowfeet aka the outer side of the eyes. But botox for under the eyes doesn't exist.

[@Marauder131]

I think its fillers, excessive makeup and enhancements and maybe most of all the resurgence of smoking/vaping.

[@sandilang3845]

I would like to say that in realizing that you are a doctor and adding all the years of schooling you have gone through you must be of a certain age. But to me you could pass for a 20 year old. Whatever you are doing keep it up. I am so thrilled I found you for your brilliance and knowledge!

[@lourdeswright]

Dr. Look at the twin w/ prolonged Botox treatment: she has rosey glossy-lipstick on & makeup. Also, in the first set of photos shown, the same twin smiles, while the other (who only got Botox once) is frowning. The “imaginary benefits” do NOT outweigh the more-likely-than not high health risks. ❤️ love your channel.

[@naightengale101]

I can attest to fillers not botox making people look older. I have two students in particular, who are 15 to 20 years my juniour and they now look my age (40s). Fillers have given a rigidity and hardness to their once young soft faces, as they try to look 'sculpted'.

[@pog8744]

Yesss thank you! I’ve been going ??? over this whole trend of “preventative botox”. Seems crazy to volunteer for something so experimental. It’s still so new.

[@AmyKaylasVegas]

I joined a FB group of people who had adverse effects from it... hard pass on it after that!

[@rachelbachel2]

Im 48. Preventative botox was being used back when I was 24. So, twenty years ago. Maybe it wasn't as widespread as it is currently. But really it's nothing new. The theory was we could prevent wrinkles from ever forming. But wrinkles are just a small part of aging. My mom is 73. Wrinkle free. But she looks like an elderly woman. With no character. It's weird looking

[@juliemoses1909]

I would think muscle atrophy could be bad for your face.

[@MzNoemi69]

Wouldn't it be nice if the younger crowd cared about optimal health, than wrinkles they don't have yet?

[@yourfuturewaifu9061]

Agreed. I have chronic health problems, no time to worry about aging.

[@ofekR]

Be careful from Fillers, when you are young and you sculpt your face - you stretch the skin because you don't really need this added volume. Also, stau AWAY from Hyaluronidase, it ruined my face made it sunkend. in my 20's i look awful BECAUSE of those.

[@pettypandora]

I have a friend who started botox in her young twenties. She looked older than all of us for a long time however, now that we are in our 40’s, she looks young still. Frozen at around 30 it seems. I just protect my skin and live a healthy lifestyle but if botox is your thing, one day you will look younger I guess lol🤷🏼‍♀️🤣.

[@aylabilse3697]

They are not aging gracefully that’s for sure. They are going so overboard that they look like old people trying to look young and looking distorted rather than younger.

[@claudiasmith9117]

Happy May Long Weekend to all of the Canadians!!

[@blackeneddove]

Happy Monday, Dr. Dray! 😊

[@dreamarichards4972]

People are going crazy with the internet pushing cosmetic surgery, all sorts of makeup and other things. I believe in moisturizers etc. I do believe that smoking and drinking definitely affects the face and wreaks havoc on your health, as most know. I have lost relatives because of smoking. Sad.

[@erdfghj]

I originally started using botox at 26 - I started young because of excess facial sweating when nervous (anxiety). I'm 43 now and have kept it up over the years - it has definitely done me huge favours - barely a wrinkle in site.

[@nataliez3431]

It's filler, that I notice constantly. Young women with filler put years on their face, not realising it. I've barely been able to pick botox when there's just a bit of it.

[@K.Lynchka]

Wrinkles show your expressions, if you have smile lines its probably because you smile more? What is wrong with that, who wants to hide their emotions?

[@tatianaa.3694]

I don't think it's good to start injecting Botox at such a young age, why? Well, because as far as I know (please correct me if I'm wrong) when a muscle is not used anymore it atrophies and also the bone under that muscle becomes more fragile since it does not receive information from the muscle. The body is very wise and begins to "get rid" of what it does not use in order to save energy. So I believe that using Botox long term will make people look older since their muscles and bones will lose tone and density sooner

[@Nowheregirl1973]

We are not meant to look at ourselves all day long. We have become a very vain society.

[@TheCydonianCitizen]

I'm 28, since I was 10 or 11 have been taking really good care of my skin due to acne - religiously applying sunscreen daily, adapalene every night, and more recently started azelaic acid - and no one believes when I tell my age, people (even those my own age) think I'm in my early twenties or even younger. Never came close to botox and fillers! My genetics helped of course, but folks, wear sunscreen!!!!

[@agazaneksu]

Am I the only one who doesn't see that much difference in twin's faces? sure, one doesn't have as many wrinkles but considering how much money she must have spent in total for 19 years of botox, doesnt really convince me it's worth it.

[@stevedorecharley2849]

I could see a difference, but the German twin still looked great to me.

[@wx2999]

Improving your appearance almost always results in getting more money. Pretty privilege. The procedures probably paid for themselves.

[@kimberly6123]

Also, the angles of their faces were not quite the same. So deceptive.

[@DoritoBot9000]

@@wx2999The level of “prettiness” between them two is the same though. I doubt the twin from Münich would receive any negative discrimination due to her appearance

[@starxcrossed]

@@DoritoBot9000I think the twin that didn’t get regular Botox is actually prettier. Not sure if that had anything to do with these results or what; maybe she didn’t feel like she needed it

[@daniela18560]

I think it’s stress, smoking, and drinking.

[@AnnaWhite-go6nz]

vaping too

[@FitnessSweets]

Gen X did a lot of that and a good portion of them look awful.

[@AnnaWhite-go6nz]

@@FitnessSweets vaping was popularised only since 2010. Gen x is 1965 -1980. So they would of been 30 years of age ( at the end of gen x) not popular to see a gen x vape at all. Gen x sun baked, smoke d cigarettes and drank. I would say that is more so the reason for their ageing than vaping, if u think about it

[@GirlDo3]

Gen Z drinks much less than previous generations

[@sarahcatss]

I never see a gen-z in real life that looks like the gen-z’s I see online. I think most use heavy filters that look like Botox

[@sebumpostmortem]

90% of my coworkers are Gen Z (while I' m 50). "My kidz" have habits that I' d never dreamed such as 365 sunscreen, they go to a pro derm to solve their issues and they have access to priceless info like this channel and other board certified docs. Not to talk about make up skills... Their present skin looks healthy and gorrrrgeus But ngl, none of them have fallen in premature use of actives and procedures that ruin the skin and surgeries that make them look like a cloned Bratz. I suppose this is an exception. They are lovely enough to teach me genzenial spanish😜! 🧛🏻‍♀️🖤

[@stevedorecharley2849]

It also occurs to me when thinking about those twins that the LA based twin probably does lots of other things to take care of her skin, like sunscreen every day for 19 years. And the Germany twin is not exactly a hag. Just sayin.

[@tired.5565]

I don't think gen z looks old , I am a zillenial , i hit pubirty young and looked older then I was for years and now at 27 people think i'm in my early 20s alot. I think people of every generation can look older or younger then their age , mainly I think it's genetic. I'm sure things like sun damage and race play a role as well. I don't have plastic surgery or filler yet but i'm sure as long as it's done well people look nice with it. Some people may not even be trying to look younger. I think buccal fat removal could age you but that's really it.

[@dianamcmillan3285]

It’s also social media making the youth think it’s all about looking superficial .

[@la_volpe_eclettica]

I have engaged in performing arts such as theatre for more than 10 years and now I do science communication on social media, I make funny videos about genetics. Believe me when I say that expression lines are PRECIOUS when you have to pass a message to somebody through acting. You have facial muscles to make facial expressions, USE THEM!

[@SueRosalie]

ikr and it makes no sense that Nicole Kidman keeps ruining her face with fillers and botox. Her face looks permanently angry, with no other expressions

[@AriMyles93]

Vaping, fillers, bad makeup application to make gen z to look older, bad eyebrow makeup, implants, facelifts, genetics, supplementation (steroids for males/females), I have gone to a few different gym locations now and seeing males aged from 19-25 and see how unnaturally big they are, which a lot have admitted to taking anabolic steroids which can give a more mature look but also increase blood pressure. Botox helps prevent wrinkles/fine lines and does wear off. I highly doubt botox is making gen z alone look older

[@halehsh1]

Also, Europeans generally prioritize factors beyond physical appearance, while LA crowds often seem preoccupied solely with their looks.

[@FreakShowTae]

Not if you're comparing to Munich though, it is full of posh people.

[@halehsh1]

Thank you for your comment. However, "posh" doesn't necessarily mean obsessed with appearance. While Munich may be full of posh people, it doesn't imply they're all fixated on their looks. Posh typically encompasses a broader spectrum of qualities beyond just appearance, such as lifestyle, social status, manners, and cultural refinement. It's not solely about facial surgery or obsession with physical appearance.

[@kay.kaydgdh]

I think that's not a very good comparison. Europe as a whole continent vs a city in California...surely there are cities within countries in Europe that similarly prioritize physical appearance like people in LA do..

[@GirlDo3]

Europeans have a heavy drinking culture clubbing/ raving/partying and drug culture is more intense and many countries drink cofee and smoke cigs for breakfast lol

[@Elrewin59]

We don't have a lot of seventy/eighty years old out there who have been getting neuro-modulators for decades and decades" Don't we? Botox has been here for quite some time. I'm 30, and I remember as a child the medias making fun of women who overdid it with Botox, and they were already well in their 50s-60s. I don't want to be rude, I'm just pointing out that a study of the effects of long-term injection of neuro-modulators would be possible.

[@aimeeb.5683]

I wouldn’t generalize a whole generation. However, the “Botox brow” lifting effect does make some people look older in my opinion. But that’s probably because I’m just accustomed to seeing older women who have had Botox done. Seeing it in such young people is more new to me.

[@irenebernardi3954]

Hi Dr Dray, ive been a follower for a long time, I wanted to ask if you can make a video on retinols and dry eyes. I know on your ig stories you said its a myth that there’s any causality, but I keep hearing more and more people report their experience (as well as myself) and would like to hear an expert’s take on the possible explanations. Thank you!

[@emilyr.6558]

Seeing the photos of the twins makes me not want to get Botox. Every 4-6 months for 19 years and the difference isn't that much. I'd rather take that money and spend it elsewhere.

[@Freaky0Nina]

Munich isn't a skiing resort or anything. But we spend more time outdoors in Germany by simply existing. We walk alot more to get from a to b in cities. A lot of people dont have a car because we dont need one. So. Yes. We get mlre sun that way. Plus botox may be on the rise but is nowhere near as normalized as in California.

[@Positive_Indifference]

Alot of Gen-Z'ers I've seen looks older than I do. Lol! 😂

[@Katie_Woo]

Im 38 now and since my teens my grandmother taught me to cleanse, tone and moisturise and use sunscreen to protect my whole body including my face. I never baked in the sun, I never used a tanning bed, no smoking, no drugs and minimal alcohol. Plenty of water and sleep though. My sister is 3 years older than me and ignored the sage wisdom of grandma and bought a sun bed and crisped herself to the level of Kettle Chips 😮 So I'm 38 and smooth, she's 41 and has dark spots, lines and is wanting Botox. She doesn't think our different dkin routines and her sun bed are the reasons for the difference......😬

[@seanackerman6168]

The first time I got Botox was at 27 and I feel like it worked great for me. I personally noticed that my forehead lines lessened substantially and my crows feet as well. My eyes are extremely sensitive and prone to more capillary dilation and I noticed my scleras looked whiter. My dark circles also became less noticeable. The last two effects are not something that Botox claims to treat, but I found it interesting. I also had unsolicited comments from people telling me that I looked more rested and happier. I hadn’t told them that I got Botox until after the compliment. My parents were anti sunblock when I was young so I burned and tanned often. In my 20s I started taking care of my skin and I wear sunblock daily. My skincare is more minimal and I tend to cycle active ingredients like retinol and salicylic acid. I haven’t had Botox in 9 months and when I was regularly receiving it I would still wait few weeks to a month after the effects subsided to avoid muscle atrophy that can occur from back to back appointments long term. I only stopped because of the price and because I feel like I use my forehead muscles less than before so I haven’t needed it as much. I personally think that makeup techniques and overuse of filler by providers who don’t fully understand the pathology of facial aging are causing more young people to look appear older than they are. For filler, less is more and should be used in key places around the face. Makeup that looks great for photos and zoom is different than what looks best in daily life. The internet can also make things seem more prevalent than they actually are. In my actual life 20 year olds look their ages, and the only ones who look older tend to be men that I know who spend a lot of time outdoors for work or leisure activities and don’t wear sunblock and don’t wear moisturizer. (I live in Colorado where the UV is intense and the climate is arid) And in real life it is honestly difficult to tell the age of most people I meet between 22 and 35. Most people I have met within that range look to be around the same age, so really it is the internet that skews our perception.

[@EmpressKadesh]

I feel like with the twins that is not a good indicator at all because if the twin who got botox for 19 years has active botox then she obviously can't scrunch her eyes and make the same wrinkles. Take a picture when her botox has fully worn off for a year and she will probably look just as wrinkled as her sister. I recently got daxxify (at age 40) and it was my first time doing anything like this and it actually made my wrinkles worse from other muscles overcompensating.

[@uwsgrrrl9981]

Joe Behar, the comedian, is 80 or 81 & gets Botox & looks great. It’s the face fillers that ages. Look at Kyle Jenner, she looks 36, not 26. Gravity affects every one. I’d rather have a wrinkle or two than sagging jowls. I’m 73 yo & had a lower face & neck lift at 66 yo. My skin is sagging, but I’m done with plastic surgery

[@CC88811]

I’m 45. I started preventative Botox at 27. It has to be done properly. Your face shouldn’t be paralysed, it should be able to move just not crease deeply. I get it every 6 months. You can’t overdo it. Let it drain out. I have smooth skin, no wrinkles, tight pores, tight jawline, and people’s jaws drop when they find out my age. I also wear sunscreen everyday of the year and have since I was a teenager

[@ntildesley2071]

Surely the USA would actually have lots of 70 year Olds having had decades of neuromodulators. For example they have a place called Hollywood where they make movies and honestly the people there get so much botox and plastic surgery

[@tiffanykilby7560]

I really enjoyed seeing ppl with unique features, and most of the generation now does not have anything unique looking. I think big lips do not make everyone look good. Some people are more beautiful with smaller lips. some look better with bigger noses, not chiseled down noses. It reminds me of that old song "Simple Irresistible ", every woman in that video is identical looking, just like the majority today.

[@alexp2915]

I was talking with someone at an event recently who I thought was close to my age (40) and as we were talking I remember thinking they were using unusual (to me) slang. Turns out they were 18 🤯 I can’t imagine teaching high school these days and having a room full of “kids” that look like they’ve got mortgages and 401Ks 😳 Meanwhile, people regularly think I’m in my 20s.

[@claudiasmith9117]

Good Afternoon Dr Dray ❤

[@TwoCoffinsForSleep]

We’re all just trying to do our best to feel good about ourselves, I think, whatever that looks like and whatever procedures (or not) it may involve. I love that all of these options exist, even if I don’t partake in them because who knows? I remember when I was a preteen in the 80s I was using clearisil products and couldn’t understand why they made my face so angry and red. My aunt finally pointed out that those products were for people with acne, which I didn’t have at the time. The power of marketing to make you think you should be using something you might not need!

[@vegankathy2583]

Botox since I’ve turned 30… I’m 39… I don’t overdo it but I definitely attribute my face to the care I’ve given it ❤️

[@carlarocha4238]

First of all, there are EXTENSIVE STUDIES ON BOTOX available since it has been around since the 80s.

[@alyciasmith1964]

Could you do a video on how different generations might look older due to personal changes in society or as individuals (diet, bluelight, pollution, food additives, smoking, late nights, etc).

[@ginaneu2546]

I‘m 73 and have been on Botox for my crows feet and my glabella for 24 years now. (I get the injections every three months.)I didn‘t experience any bad results but have less wrinkles than other friends of mine without Botox.

[@rebeccabourke9668]

- Any thoughts on the following ingredients and if they are BS or not? I find them in a lot of Japanese skincare, but not talked about online much: Rucinol, 4MSK (Potassium 4-Methoxysalicylate, Energy Signal AMP/Disodium Adenosine Phosphate OT, Placenta Extract

[@The_Catnip]

Placenta extract??????????????????

[@frankiefavero1666]

Awesome video! Dr Dray, I think the twin in Germany has a lot more photo damage than the twin who got the regular injections. You can tell that her skin is permanently tinted and there's more pigmentation/moles/sun spots on the complexion of the German twin. Also, the European twin's skin is also sagging more than the American one (around the eyes and jowls), Botox does not address collagen loss/skin sagging! This suggests that the main contributor to skin ageing is what we've always thought; the sun!

[@cynthiaarmstrong7972]

Dr. Dray, what are you wearing on your skin? It looks glowy!

[@tonyj4271]

Have a great week guys xox

[@DrDrayzday]

You too!!

[@maddylovesgood]

im 26 and I plan to just get microneedeled once or twice a year. Why would I opt for botox when I could spend the same amount or less on something that will actually build collagen? Im shocked that botox is as popular as it is given there are things like lasers and microneedling which actually build collagen vs a bandaid fix like botox.

[@db-gb5xi]

Even derms don't all agree on botox. You have derms who do it and you have some who don't (but may reconsider when they're older).

[@melchiorlise2466]

I'm 28 and I am interested in micro needling, are you happy with the results

[@maddylovesgood]

@@melchiorlise2466 I haven’t tried it yet but that’s my plan haha :)

[@melchiorlise2466]

@@maddylovesgood Ah I read wrong sorry, don't hesitate to come back to tell us !

[@celestialcircledance]

Microneedling is great but just once or twice a year probably won't to amount to much . However it can't be compared to Botox since they both do different things .