Is BYD Going to Buy Chrysler (and why it might be a good idea)

[@Hobotraveler82]

Anything is better than Stellantis owning Chrysler. Hell they're Europeanizing Dodge by getting rid of the Hemi in the Charger. Just read an article about that and why Ford is trying with the idea ofva V8 four door Mustang to bring those Charger owners over to Ford. Great video. 😊

[@UncleJoeLITE]

Anything except this.

[@Hobotraveler82]

@@UncleJoeLITE Thank you. I still believe that Chrysler has a chance. Just not with Stellantis. Its why I said what I said.

[@2W3X4YZ5]

Mustangs lose traction on wet roads. Every generation of the car has been that way, and why I won’t drive one.

[@weegeemike]

The next American manufacturer to come out with a RWD/AWD V8 sedan will have a hit on their hands with police and taxi fleet sales and those in the public that long for a big V8 powered RWD car. I know that number is shrinking, but the success of the Charger even in its last model years shows that there's a sector of the public that still wants them.

[@charlesharmon4926]

@@weegeemikebut they have to buy carbon credits to sell those V-8s from Tesla and other EV manufacturers. Stellantis paid Tesla $500 million to build V-8 chargers and challengers the last year in production causing them to lose money on every low end model they sold that year.

[@TKsGarage]

What's funny is BYD wouldn't comment when talking about just buying Chrysler. They said they weren't buying stellantis. CNBC asked them directly if they were only buying Chrysler which they said no comment to. They keep mentioning buying all of Stellantis and we never said that lol. Just Chrysler. Great video and insight. Subscribed

[@AllCarswithJon]

Yeah, I wonder if there's not some word games being played here. Thanks for the sub, and thanks for covering this on your channel!

[@stickynorth]

Another thought? Chinese factories are amongst the most automated car factories on earth. I see whomever setting up in the USA using barebones human labor even with UAW contracts. I am sure they could probably spread that existing labor force over many more cars without losing jobs just with tech and that would equalize the upgraded labor costs found stateside... Much the same way Hyundai Singapore is able to build up to 35,000 cars per year with a staff of 110.. Yes they are knockdown kits essentially but that's still staggeringly efficient and a possible business model to follow for others... ATO/Assembled To Order cars much the same way fast food is Cooked To Order to prevent wastage...

[@marengoczar5035]

Basically that's what Geely did

[@sblsbl7600]

Chrysler, Plymouth and Ram are just name plates they stick on Dodges. There isn't a room full of Chrysler engineers working on making Chrysler badges to fit on Dodge Caravans. Ram is just a Dodge truck with a model name usurping the former brand name. No one will think BYDs are Chryslers. Everyone knows Dodge makes Ram.

[@wescam2958]

But the name is not the issue. BYD will own Chrysler, and by that have a dealership network to sell their products in place. Without a dealership network BYD can't easily sell their products and offer repair facilities for their cars.

[@foxtrotwolf6081]

@@wescam2958 A dealership network would be an albatross around their neck with today's direct sales models and US dealership protectionism laws.

[@jerrystaley1563]

The onslaught of Japanese cars in the 1970s finally forced American manufacturers to design, build and sell us better cars. Competition tends to separate the good from the also-ran... BYD certainly would shake up Ford and GM boardrooms.

[@xiaoranmo7308]

Japan don’t have any option in the 70s, they have to start manufacturing in the US and give all the manufacturers know-how to US counterpart for free because Japan is military dependent on the US.

[@abdullahtalib4335]

I may not be a culture guru, but I do love American cars. A Chinese company buying Chrysler? I get the fuss, but Stellantis might be doing more harm than good. Just look at Geely and Volvo-they're thriving! Change isn't always bad, and that’s why I appreciate your cool-headed perspective.

[@drewchristy]

At this point, I truly believe that BYD would be welcomed more as a new brand in the US. People get excited or curious about new brands. There would be no preconceived quality issues yet associated with the brand, thus insuring a fair shot at the market. Sure, some would say they don't trust cars or tech from China, but most would have no idea, nor do I think care. Just look at all of the initial negativity with Japanese and Korean brands. The US was pretty quick to adapt and expect those. What makes Chinese cars so different? Also, today many carry around Chinese made devices in their pockets without any idea and/or thought about it; much like you pointed out. Tesla and other new auto brands have proven that BYD does not need dealerships to sell vehicles. Why would any new brand even consider it? All they need is service buildings that double as showrooms and test drive facilities, and a good marketing department. BYD has a great shot at winning over the US market as they are already here, just not on the consumer side. The only thing they would really have to gain by purchasing Chrysler would be to calm political issues. This might be less of an issue considering how long BYD has already been in the US. They have well established manufacturing here which creates many jobs. They would do the same on the consumer side. Let's face it Jon, Chrysler died years ago. They just haven't placed a tombstone on the grave. It's time for us to move on from failed brands of the past. Few miss Plymouth, Mercury, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, ect. Chrysler will be the same. Hell, how many consumers even know they still exist today? Just look at Buick. While they have a few worthy models to consider, what really sets them apart from GM's other clones? Do you think many would care or even notice if Buick went away tomorrow? The same applies to GMC. Both are soulless brands that have outlived their worthiness. BYD would be much better off blazing their own path into the US market.

[@warrenny]

While I agree with much of what you said, I'm perplexed as to why you would support BYD and not Chrysler. Businesses are, in large part, a story that people buy into. While we like new stories and should give them a chance, old stories are also meaningful and valued by people.

[@americanrambler4972]

BYD is already building and selling vehicles in the US market. They are mostly Transit buses, both electric and diesel powered, assembled in the United States. Most of those sales are going to local transportation municipalities around the country.

[@johnnymason2460]

If BYD does decide to buy Chrysler, they should buy Dodge, Ram, and Jeep as well. All would profit from getting away from a European company that doesn't understand what people in America truly want. Chrysler and Dodge need to survive and thrive in America. I won't accept anything less.

[@quixomega]

No chance, Stellantis wants Jeep and Ram.

[@nickhall1115]

Selling your soul.. I mean business to China is NEVER the answer

[@TheREALJosephTurner]

@@quixomega I've always believed that Ram was spun off into it's own name for the sole purpose of being able to shed Dodge if needed, while still keeping the truck. There was really no other practical reason to remove the trucks from the Dodge stable.

[@foxtrotwolf6081]

@@TheREALJosephTurner Ram was supposed to give their trucks a more macho identity. Ram has a more "get out of my way" cachet whereas Dodge gave an air of "I'll get out of your way".

[@stickynorth]

With Stellantis aligned with Leap Motor I don't see a purchase of Chrysler in the cards HOWEVER you are going to see many of these Chinese companies soon paired with European or American OEM's to share tech and save costs and introduce shared parts systems between them. If it drives down costs and simplifies all EV manufacturing I say go for it! There's no reason why lower-end BEV's shouldn't be just locally made versions of Chinese designs with stronger safety equipment much the same way it was reversed in the recent past... Most of their cars and designs are better anyway so why not make Leapmotor or BYD or Vinfast vehicles in Mexico or Morocco or wherever there is capacity... Lordstown, Ohio for example... Especially since Fisker bit it again!

[@LifeAfterLosing]

Exactly. American companies are behind now in so many aspects, and the best way to catch up is to allow them to team up with manufacturers that aren’t saddled with old ways of doing things so they can learn and move into the future. The future is BEV’s and other countries are already quickly moving that way, while we are left behind holding onto the past and nostalgia. Are BEV’s the best for all situations? Of course not. But if there were affordable options like there are in other markets, people would buy them. It’s just that people can’t all afford $50,000 cars. There needs to be a lot more long range (250 mile +) EV’s for 20 thousand dollars, and the Chinese can help get American manufacturers build them.

[@LifeAfterLosing]

I have no issue with them buying Chrysler, I’ll have an issue if the government does not put restrictions on the purchase of them. They should do the same thing that China did when American car companies first went to China, make them team up with American manufacturers to share tech, manufacturing knowledge, and practices that will help the American industry as well. After 20 years, they can go independent. The rules should be made to benefit our people just like their rules benefitted theirs.

[@enhancedutility266]

Right

[@mrgurulittle7000]

I would literally prefer any other company buy Chrysler than BYD. Maybe Geely is the only Chinese automaker I could trust, but definitely not BYD. The way BYD is run, I could see them running Chrysler like SAIC is running MG where they keep the name and the reputation but literally everything about the product is Chinese. Geely on the other hand works together with engineers from their acquired companies and is more of a global *mature company that I could trust. Now compared to Stellantis would I prefer BYD have the Chrysler brand? Hmm… That’s a tough one but I have to agree with you that BYD may be the better of the two evils. Still, the choices of BYD vs Stellantis seems very grim for the once dominant Chrysler brand. This is just…sad.

[@UncleJoeLITE]

Jon, my God no! Chrysler will just be another CCP badge engineering exercise. Watching 'Burn Your Driveway' buy Chrysler would be just as depressing as SAIC selling us plastic "MGs". BYD have a "fiery" reputation here. Stellantis suddenly look great.

[@mrgurulittle7000]

😂Yeah, that’s the most accurate acronym for BYD I’ve ever seen.

[@TheAppleExperence]

I mean Geeing owns Volvo and they seem to be doing well however still partly built in Sweden but some are made in china

[@UncleJoeLITE]

@@TheAppleExperence I present"Polestar" in my defence lol. Cheers.

[@jerrystaley1563]

SAIC is already sending us Chinese-built Buicks but most Americans are too ignorant to realize it.

[@McExplorer1]

It would be an absolute travesty if BYD would buy Chrysler. It would destroy the American auto industry.

[@stickynorth]

America destroyed the American auto industry... Force feeding us SUV's we don't REALLY want but give them a $20K profit premium per vehicle compared to $1-2K for a sedan...

[@Airpang100]

It's already dead. Remove pickups, vans and Jeep - what's left?

[@CJColvin]

​@@stickynorthWhat about the Muscle cars?

[@UncleJoeLITE]

The mere thought repulsed me tbh.

[@UncleJoeLITE]

​@@Airpang100Nowt.

[@whiteknuckles]

The US is a big market, but not the dominant market. There are other markets out there that are bigger when combined and less political. Why would China/BYD and other Chinese brands want to deal with the absurd behaviour of the US government when they can do their business with much less hassle somewhere else. The only advantage BYD would have buying Chrysler is its distribution network/dealership. It is likely the Chinese brands will build plants in Mexico for Mexico and South America markets.

[@Airpang100]

I agree with your analysis. A few years on they close the old Chrysler factories and open new, modern, robotized factories without the need of expensive American workers. BYD will only use Chrysler as long as absolutely necessary. Here in Europe BYD are common and great cars, especially the Dolphin. They don't need to be less expensive, they are good products holding their own. I myself rather would have a BYD badge on my car than an unknown (to the general public) brand as Chrysler.

[@mrbears34]

Chryslers headquarters should still be based in the United States, and not end up like MG Motors.

[@Mistahhuntah]

20 years ago it might have been sad, but Chrysler killed it's self. 🤷‍♂

[@davinp]

One video said that the great-grandson of Walter P Chrysler wants to buy Chrysler and bring it back to its former glory. Next year would be Chrysler Corporation's 100th birthday

[@SecretlySeven]

Glad you decided to share your take on this. Thanks.

[@xguillaume3134]

The left value of Chrysler is distribution network, mothing else. Take over Chrysler factories and emplyees could become huge burden, also build factory in US is too risky to Chinese car makers, Fuyao's American Factory is the exemple.

[@Iowa599]

Stellantis needs to eliminate some brands...the FIAT Compass is 😂 The 500L is not an off road vehicle, even when called a Jeep.

[@alstruck8063]

They're not an American manufacturer, it's just a recycled brand name. All the auto makers are spread out across the globe, and being consolidated into multiple brands of the same few corporations. If a new one comes along they just push them out of business or buy them out. Tesla is struggling to stay sovereign and while I don't care for their products ( electric is not an option for me yet) I do wish them well. The industry is changing rapidly and only time will tell.

[@foxtrotwolf6081]

BYD has a pickup. I think it's not full EV so with chicken tax and gas burn, maybe they're looking at a USA built or assembled with parts from Mexico, Chrysler pickup? Many us built trucks have parts from Mexico. Mexico to advantage USMCA and low cost and final assembly in US to get the USA vin (1, 4, or 5).

[@davinp]

After Chrysler's 2009 bankruptcy, the merged the Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep brands under one dealership. Previously the 3 brands were separate dealerships

[@foxtrotwolf6081]

in 1975, we bought a Dodge Dart from Town and Country Chrysler, Dodge, Plymouth dealership. Don't know if they're still around.

[@mongo64071]

According to those reports, there were photos of the BYD badges being worn by BYD employees at the headquarters at auburn hills.

[@Iowa599]

Will they be made of one piece of plastic? like, injection into a mold containing all of the components, with nothing serviceable, so the whole car must be replaced upon any failure? Most manufacturers are trying for that, somebody will try it.

[@CapitanBluebeard]

It would be awesome. It solves all the problems of launching a brand. Immediate access to dealer network and manufacturing. Circumvent the tariffs and they can get past the negative press by building American.

[@michaeloreilly657]

An interesting comparison is the Indian purchase of JLR. It initially caused shock waves in the UK, but they soon got over it. I'm not sure if you've looked at the manufacturing of Leapmotor vehicles in Stellantis Poland factory. A similar model.

[@mrgurulittle7000]

This can’t be compared to JLR and Tata. Tata’s acquisition of JLR is more comparable to Geely’s acquisition of Volvo because Volvo like JLR is still very much independent with only the management owned by the parent company. With the BYD acquisition of Chrysler, it would most likely be similar to SAIC’s acquisition of MG, which was basically a takeover of only the brand and a couple facilities. MG is only a brand and not a full scale company like JLR or Volvo, and I feel Chrysler would be in the same situation.

[@shnorth888]

And where's Jaguar and Land Rovers quality now? In the toilet. 😅

[@obesetuna3164]

@@shnorth888 But they still sell.

[@shnorth888]

@@obesetuna3164 Jag and Land Rover are more of a status symbol. Over the years they've had quality control issues especially with electrical systems. Back in 2019 alot of JLR owners in China were protesting in front of the JLR offices in Shanghai due to the number of recalls from issues ranging from the engines and the instrument panels to the airbags and batteries. The worst is with vehicles like this when they age they become money pits especially when the warranty ends.

[@jimrotharmel]

The fact that the Chinese economy is so tied to the US and other western nations is in my opinion what has kept them largely out of the war between. Ukraine/Russian. Which is an example of the benefits of global trade, If BDY can not produce inexpensive quality cars in the same way the Europeans, Japanese. And Korean brands did when they first came to America to prove they made a good product they will face what VIN FAST is facing, why would I pay full price for a product from an unfamiliar manufacture and an unproven reliability record. If they buy Chrysler and inherit the UAW, Union workers, they have a long history of giving concession to their employers to help guaranty success. And will buy them credibility in the quality of their product Union workers are not the reason any employer fails, that's bad and often short sided decisions made in the top offices. And Chinese factories tend to be advanced and more automated than other countries so like any company they can be profitable with well paid benefited employees, after all Rush Limbaugh once said the only reason any company exists is to create jobs for workers.

[@gordonwallin2368]

Good video, my country is expecting tariffs on Chinese EVs. And the consumer is the mark/payer. Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.

[@OLDS98]

Thank you for sharing your take on this situation.

[@deanstyles2567]

Trying to turn around Chrysler would be far harder for BYD than just entering the market directly. Stick a fork in Chrysler, they're done. FWIW here in Australia the BYD Seal is about Model 3 sized and starts around 10% less than a Model 3 SR. I believe BYD have a factory in Thailand, would there be less resistance Stateside to importing BYD vehicles from Thailand?

[@blondebeard6335]

You're lack of research about BYD is sad, they have only been a fire hazard in China.

[@UncleJoeLITE]

@@blondebeard6335 Jon just gets a bit enthusiastic

[@ashleyd6180]

'Your'

[@icillay]

A part of me is wondering how much Lenovo's purchase of IBM's PC business back in 2004. I think that different parts of the federal government have been quarreling for two decades about whether to allow the use of their devices ever since.

[@timothykeith1367]

Walter Chrysler's great grandson wants American investors to buy Chrysler - not likely

[@warrenny]

I lived and worked in China for over 3 years, and my wife is a Chinese national. Personally, I don't feel that Americans need to be worried about Chinese people, culture, etc in so far as its impact on America. Lest people think I am too nice, there are plenty of other people and ideologies that I would like to keep out of America...but we'll drop the subject. Anyway, back to BYD...probably a fake story, but it's an interesting thought exercise. As a real world example, Volvo has done VERY well with its Chinese parent, Geely. The big difference with Geely and BYD is that Geely bought Volvo for patents, business growth and furthering its manufacturing prowess outside of China. Chrysler does not offer the same advantages as Volvo. BYD would probably use Chrysler as a foothold into American market....and we've seen that Nteenth times with Chrysler....and that has never worked well.

[@k.b.tidwell]

I think any thinking person knows that the Chinese people as a whole do not have the same ideological mindset as the Chinese government, just as it is here in the US. I believe the Chinese people are "good", really I do, while their government is terribly evil, and does actually want to rule the world.

[@jeffstellish1990]

Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Ram and Mopar all need to return to American ownership. If anything, Chrysler should buy BYD for their electric vehicle tech and adopt it here. Chrysler needs to reintroduce the Plymouth nameplate for low priced cars sooner than later if they want to compete.

[@foxtrotwolf6081]

Chrysler couldn't afford to buy BYD. That would be like KMart buying Amazon.

[@terrellstewart4071]

I would like to buy a ev truck but the cost of $100,000 for a ev truck is stupid. So if a Chinese company can bring it to market at a reasonable rate I'm on board.

[@TheStobb50]

Would be a good idea for BYD but not for Chrysler, they would only want the name, just like what happened to MG

[@foxtrotwolf6081]

Besides the name, what else it there? The UAW contracts? The stealership contracts? BYD wants to make money to increase their stock prices. If they can buy factories independent of all the red tape associated with Chrysler, they can then start making hybrids that people can afford. If I recall, many of BYD sales are hybrids and that is Toyota's (Japanese) niche.

[@bobnogera]

Sorry Jon but I believe when a company takes out a trademark name they should be required to maintain a connection with the company and products they produced at the time the trademark was issued. A trademark should be a badge of honor not just another asset which gets flipped to the highest bidder. “ Chrysler Corp. the Craftsman Tools of Automobiles “.

[@coreysmith2774]

I've been a Dodge Ram owner for years. If they sell out to the Communist Chinese, I'll be at a Ford dealership the next day.

[@vadim6385]

Uhm, okay?

[@richunggoy3960]

And the Ford you will buy,will have plenty of Chinese parts in it.... like all other vehicles " made" in America

[@ultramega72]

there is no IP of value left in Chrysler, just bygone vibes of Americana from a few car guys. Pity. I heard the 300 was a good car, and I used to see quite a few on the road, but they must have been 100k cars as I hardly see any on the road now.

[@DigitalYojimbo]

nope, i hope the US govt doesnt allow it. If china is using protectionism to prevent american companies in china, we should too.

[@quixomega]

I don't think BYD needs Chrysler, they already have a better reputation. Chrysler has failed and been bailed out 3 times and their lineup has collapsed to one minivan.

[@UncleJoeLITE]

@@quixomegaso more CCP ownership of American brands must be a good idea.

[@053790]

Like we need Chinese car makers to take advantage of Chrysler… we should bail out Chrysler and keep America strong at whatever cost … byd can keep their inferior quality cars we don’t need them

[@charlesharmon4926]

They want access to the dealer network and distribution chain.

[@adrianmonk4440]

I UNDERSTAND WHAT IS A STAKE; HOWEVER, at what point do you invite in a team of Chinese doctors to supposedly save the patient WHEN IN REALITY YOU ARE GIVING THEM "THE HOSPITAL" ?? [OR] do you pull the plug on the patient ?? [OR] do you break up the hospital in Componets: Oncology, GP, Delivery, Cardiac, ETC., ETC. That should have been done BEFORE FIAT.

[@jongabrielsen3868]

The U.S. Government would never approve this no matter how much sense it might make. It is a non-starter.

[@richunggoy3960]

As many politicians that are taking money from the Chinese, don't be so sure

[@vadim6385]

Yes please.

[@williamread8186]

BYD joining Chrysler, a very bad idea. It would be like introducing a sick fish (chrysler) into the aquarium.

[@jaybickford512]

I think you are right on the money. Great analysis! 👍

[@AllCarswithJon]

Thanks!

[@wt9653]

As a Gen X, I always thought Chrysler brands were piles of junk

[@richunggoy3960]

They are,have been since the 70's

[@wescam2958]

I agree with everything you have said. But, I still don't see how EV's can develop a market anytime soon in the U.S. since the infa-structure for them is so lacking and cost inscentives are disappearing so quickly (higher fees assessed on electric vehicles by states to make up of lost gas taxes and higher road building costs due to EV's being so heavy and road damaging). I just don't see the U.S. being an environment where EV's will do well anytime soon.

[@-POISON-]

I don't see why BYD would buy Chrysler. They are a big brand in Asia, expanding into other markets. They have their own identity and it's successful. Chrysler is only making a minivan and looks like have their days numbered. BYD would have nothing to gain by buying Chrysler. It would most likely have a negative impact on their brand. Most likely, what BYD is interested in are the facilities currently used by Chrysler.

[@mrgurulittle7000]

But if BYD wants to sell their cars in the US, they’d be better off with an American brand than their own brand.

[@-POISON-]

@@mrgurulittle7000 They wouldn't. BYD is recognized for their EVs. That's most likely what they would sell. The first Chrysler EV that would be a BYD rebadge would suffer more pushback than the upcoming Dodge Charger Daytona.

[@mrgurulittle7000]

@@-POISON-But BYD already is hated in America. By using the Chrysler name like SAIC used the MG name, they could probably ease their way into the American market. Imagine if BYD made an actually desirable Chrysler vehicle, how consumers could get lured into buying one especially because it has a Chrysler badge. I’m not saying I wish BYD would buy Chrysler, but I’m saying it could be possible.

[@-POISON-]

@@mrgurulittle7000BYD is not hated by their potential clients - EV buyers. Chrysler is not an EV brand. It's currently a dying brand who is only selling an old minivan.

[@mrgurulittle7000]

@@-POISON-MG was a dying sports car brand yet SAIC transformed it into a successful EV brand. Yes, there’s a chance BYD is interested in buying Chrysler because there’s a much higher success chance selling EVs as Chryslers than BYDs. Currently, EV buyers make a very small minority so it would be extremely risky for BYD to enter the market as an unrecognizable EV brand.

[@johnw4067]

Hell Chrysler is in such bad shape even Russia or North Korea could run the company better.

[@DZ-cm5xw]

Look at what MG becomes.

[@hellomeatrobots]

American automakers ought to be terrified. Except for Tesla, none of them have anything that's competitive with BYD. They can go on with the "Americans don't want EVs, look at all the crappy EVs we can't sell!" line all they want. Americans do buy good EVs, we buy a lot of them. We don't want crap compliance cars or cars that are deliberately designed to be uncompetitive with a brand's ICE vehicles.

[@richunggoy3960]

No you don't. 46% of people who own ev cars say they are going back to ice cars

[@davinp]

They have discontinued several Chrysler & Dodge models and have neglected to come out with new models. The Chrysler Pacifica is aging and is in need an update

[@stefd68]

Let's not sit still and let the American auto industry fall like the English or the Swedish auto industry.

[@edcew8236]

For the rest of us: BYD Company Limited or BYD is a publicly listed Chinese multinational manufacturing conglomerate headquartered in Shenzhen, Guangdong, China.

[@richunggoy3960]

And what's your point? They sell Volvo in the US,they are owned by the Chinese

[@weegeemike]

I dont know if im cool with really any foreign company owning Chrysler at this point but i gueee thats the reality we are going to have to live with if theyre going to survive, the only way i could see it working is if a company bought them and let Chrysler basically control themselves with an American CEO and leadership and let them do their own manufacturing, research, and design, using -some- common platforms with the parent company but NOT simply badge engineering existing products like Dodge is doing with the Alfa-based Hornet. If they can let Chrysler be Chrysler like they were in the 90s and allow them to be as independent as possible, hiring some good designers and engineers and giving more free reign to the onee they already have, i think they can compete and become a successful company once again. All of this is unlikely to happen but i feel like its the best case scenario for their long term viability and prospect of success.

[@TheRobGoodman]

I think that Chrysler is in a bad position when you are trying to defend them by claiming that they were once a Buick competitor... That was Plymouth. Chrysler was supposed to be going after Cadillac. And once upon a time, long before I was born, both of them were competing with the best of Britian (RR and Bentley). The only way to revive Chrysler is to target it at both European luxury and ultraluxury. Bring in sedans and coupes to go head-to-head with MB, BMW, and Audi while the top of the line is going after Bentley and RR. The number one complaint about CDJR is that they are way too expensive, why not position Chrysler that way?

[@leonb2637]

First of all, I don't see any benefit from BYD buying any part of CDJR. Better to start from scratch, or buy a non-US based car maker (Mitsubishi, Nissan-Renault) or go via Mexico. BYD has been making/assembling transit buses in Lancaster, California and has an office in Los Angeles for several years so already in the USA. Geely, a China based company, owns Volvo cars and Polestrar EV brands has had a plant in South Carolina for several years. A number of China based motor vehicle component makers have operations and factories in the USA, Canada and Mexico. BYD has dealerships in Europe, I saw a one in Ireland in May. It will be a serious but difficult battle for politicians to keep BYD out of the EV market in the USA, the PRC government is clear they will back their companies and use every 'card' from racism and violation of trade agreements to offering jobs in North America. BYD also knows that Tesla and other EV's have flaws, are overpriced and can find a market here.

[@trevorjones3755]

I'm wondering if this is going to be similar as Chrysler pairing up with Mitsubishi back in the 80's. Chrysler needed help and got the boost they needed, maybe the Chinese can help save a dying, starved car company. Also I believe Fiat might have to leave the US as they just aren't making competitive cars here. Anyways, love the little dinosaur in the background and love your videos! I can't wait to see how this pans out

[@bryantint1339]

Private Chinese and private Americans should unite and dump their governments.

[@cbrue1896]

I don't like the idea of a Chinese company taking over an American brand. I wasn't thrilled with Daimler took over Chrysler Corp or FCA and then Stellantis. The Europeans have done a crappy job with the Chrysler brands. If BYD really is considering taking over Chrysler, it would "orphan" the other brands that were all under the Chrysler umbrella. Not sure I like that idea. Then there's the data issue. I don't agree with manufacturers such as GM taking vehicle data without the vehicle owner's consent. It's bad enough when we have homegrown companies doing that. But a Chinese company doing that?? It's far more nefarious when a Chinese company does it. We know they will use the personal data for nefarious activities. Chrysler needs to get back to the US. Ditch the Europeans who are clueless about what the American public wants. Give the Chinese a big red, white, and blue middle finger. We don't want or need them. They are foes. Chrysler is an AMERICAN company. It belongs here in the good ole US of A.

[@JTA1961]

"Talking about Dodge~ing a bullet"...Considering our "options" for president... looking at this possibility suddenly doesn't seem so horrible...(SADLY)

[@doug6191]

7:39 - "Buick level". Ouch! Harsh.

[@richunggoy3960]

Buick was a hell of a lot better than Chrysler ever was

[@wescam2958]

100% agree with you.😀

[@Westcoastride]

Company cultural road blocks, product alignment that truly reflects the brand would need to be created, not badge engineering based so what would they be buying? Sales and distribution? Buy Autonation or Penske for that instead and create a brand new brand clear of quality reputation questions or other brand expectations that BYD products wouldn’t meet. Badge engineering has a poor history of success. Cultural issues plagued Benz when they had it. Why would Chinese ownership work out better than Benz.

[@bradleypollack5658]

It’ll be great if they bought all the Chrysler Jeep Dodge and ram products. It couldn’t be worse than Stellantis!!

[@charlesharmon4926]

The only reasons any auto company would by CDJR is for access to their dealer network and distribution chain or to platform pickups and SUVs with Ram and Jeep since those segments are hugely profitable in North America. Other than that their brands have horrible resale, questionable build quality, and a shrinking demographic of suckers I mean customers that are willing to gamble with buying their products.

[@Salty_Onigiri]

Regardless of one's opinion on data privacy, I do think Jon kinda underestimated the data privacy when it comes to Chinese made EV. To illustrate my point: Quite a while ago, Huawei's EV brand AITO cause a huge fiasco by pulling their car from the largest car review site within China (DongCheDi). They cited "unfair" review pratices by pulling data from the car that DongCheDi bought anonymously. This is done without the car owner's permission and awareness. Online discussion within China then quickly shift towards the blatant privacy invasion that their EV can do.

[@whyguy12]

I hate Stellantis, they’ve ruined all my favorite brands. They need to sell to someone not in the auto industry to create competition but a person who actually cares

[@meatbyproducts]

No, it is a horrible idea. Every deal for a Chinese company to buy any American brand should be blocked. Stop buying things from Chinese owned companies.

[@demolitionman5003]

BYD cars are always catching fire in China and there steal they use is cheap and soft. Lots of issues with the frames bending. It would be a bad deal for Chrysler.

[@KJVirander]

The amount of xenophobia in these comments is appalling

[@k.b.tidwell]

I believe that if people were "real", they'd say that it's the Chinese government and not the Chinese people who are the problem. Govophobia I guess is more the reality, but people make it personal down to the private citizen.

[@karlpiepenburg127]

Instead, would like to see GM buy the Jeep brand

[@bryantint1339]

BYD should keep UAW.

[@diegoyanesholtz212]

I would sell Chrysler if I was Carlos Tavares.

[@joshuaw711]

chrysler to me will always be the minivans my family had that were stolen or had the transmission quit and ugly beige sebring my grandma bought and then my mom drove after she died until the engine had a misfire. sell it, cancel it, whatever the brand has no positive image for me. i would value a chinese manufacturer coming in and undercutting the american and established foreign brands. coming in and selling small cheap evs while ford, gm and stellantis don’t know how to make anything that isn’t an oversized truck or suv.

[@PearComputingDevices]

Part of Chrysler's downfall is that they have a union and everything that comes with. It's expensive and automakers here struggle. Part of GM's downfall was union obligations and let's face it union labor. It would not be a popular move but they would be better off shaking this union stuff out from underneath them even if it means paying for retirees for awhile.

[@michaeloreilly657]

Unions are not unique to the American Big 3. They are common in many successful companies in Europe and Asia.

[@PearComputingDevices]

@michaeloreilly657 Your right and I never said ours is unique. Just ours drained our automakers.

[@stickynorth]

@@PearComputingDevices WRONG. What drained the automakers was making inferior products for decades that are both poor in quality and overpriced compared to imports from Korea... Just like now they're losing market share because the refuse to make affordable cars, just huge SUV's with $20K+ profit margins... Now at least half the market can't afford a new vehicle which is a travesty for auto culture in general and WAY more likely to cause the death of Detroit their you phantom strawman greedy UAW... FFS, get a clue!

[@stickynorth]

I don't see BYD buying Stellantis or even just Chrysler however I do see them buying a surplus factory from them at a premium to kickstart their North American invasion plans especially with a Mexican assembly planted talked about but not finalized yet is brilliant... Especially since I think Chrysler/Dodge just idled plans for new vehicles there... That seems like a natural break in operations between the two companies... I.e. BYD will buy the idled Belvedere plant and take on all employees but they will be BYD employees soon enough... Makes sense and cents to me! I personally welcome BYD's introduction to the Canadian market which is happening in a few months and having a facility in the heart of auto land is a great and bold strategic move that they are serious about being a global player in every market... Even IF they lost money on it for a few years... It's a beachhead into America...

[@baronvonjo1929]

Legacy automakers seem desperate to give us low qualith products and incredibly high prices. Its pretty obvious that more and more cars wont be as reliable as ones in the past. You cant replace a light bulb in a headlight now. You have to replace the enitre unit that costs hundreds sometimes thousands of dollars. Tiny engines in big bodies with trubos thrown in them? All these sensors everywhere that could malfunction in 15 years. Im all up for Chinese brands to give us low quality cheap cars. Better than paying for a expensive car that will be just as unpredictable.

[@giuliopedrali4794]

It's a good idea? No

[@jamesmcintire3800]

BYD buying Chrysler is not a good idea and would not be good at all for Chrysler as a brand. It could also be very bad for the US auto industry as a whole. BYD would cheapen the Chrysler brand and ruin whatever reputation they have left after years of being owned by other foreign investors like Stellantis, Fiat, and Mercedes before that. The Chinese also have a history of not playing by the rules and skirting the law. The Chinese government has imperialist ambitions and wants nothing less than total control of the world. Call me a conspiracy theory nut but prove me wrong.

[@SimeonToko]

I wonder why my comments never stay posted. Testing 1 2 3.

[@handyman9298]

I wonder why The owners of Chrysler hasnt done this with there own cars ?

[@danr1920]

They want an instant dealer network. Cars would be designed and built in China. It would be name only. I don't think it would be good.

[@richunggoy3960]

Chrysler was junk in the 70's and they havent changed

[@markchandler1130]

Chrysler should have folded in the late 1970s without guaranteed bank loans. Terrible build quality etc.

[@bryantint1339]

Read Revelation 17 and Revelation 18.

[@dylanjimenez1952]

Great idea ❤

[@user-qi8ns1fo5d]

I believe there would be terms n conditions to buy Chrysler out, i reckon BYD know this plus dealerships problems this not to say the name can't be used before protection laws get change. USA has really studied what effects UK n Australian car market effects have been especially dealership problem you talk about last week. On other side pacific I reckon Honda will buy out Nissan n Mitsubishi, later Toyota n Honda merger if Chinese car companies tidal wave happens in USA.

[@American-Motors-Corporation]

Technically they should've already have been here long ago but the US government won't let them in, they use EPA regulations to keep the Chinese out that said they're keeping out lots of other auto makers. The Dacia sendero from Romaina is a great example throughout Europe you can buy one new for 5 grand. The USA won't let them in.

[@user-qi8ns1fo5d]

@@American-Motors-Corporation interesting, Australia did have chicken tax n road design rules ADR for car even after lost local manufacturers. We lost chunk of manufacturing but example of Geelong as city went backwards but with shortage of housing this driven economy around though Victoria economy is struggling after 19 pandemic n Labour plus Dan Andrews. I not sure how Elisabeth in SA is going but Holden Lang Lang providing ground is still up for sale. As for cars, nothing sporty sedans or trucks all new vehicles are expensive n pack full luxury n safety features. And if thats not problem registering my car cost me $1060 this year, why bother i keep dreaming n buy motorbike LOL

[@obesetuna3164]

@@American-Motors-Corporation I think you will find that the Sendero is a lot more than that. The days of a five thousand pound car in Europe was around forty years ago.

[@Simple_Jack82]

Jon, I think you may have been compromised. You do look a little like Michail Gorbachev without the birthmark. We dont need any hammers or sickles on the assembly lines.

[@flamingstag2381]

forget labour costs in the very near future

[@dans3294]

This has to be clickbait, there is no way Chinese buying Chrysler is a good thing

[@arthurhudgens8213]

Cheap ev cars on the way folks

[@jokeychin]

Hasn't BYD already publicly denied this rumor, it seems that only Americans are speculating on this topic over and over again, and I really don't see the necessity of acquiring Chrysler for BYD, it doesn't offer anything extra valuable.

[@AllCarswithJon]

I actually say near the beginning of the video BYD denied it.

[@satsuma77009]

To get around the unions you just close the plants and move to prison labour. I don't see an upside as it would trade one shitty car for another shitty car.