As someone with Stiff Person Syndrome, like Celine, I can say this is very important. There are patients in our social media groups that are relaying stories of family members asking why they can't overcome the disease like Celine. After all she's "performing" and she was only recently diagnosed. Or that it's not so bad because Celine is still out here working and making appearances. It's all ridiculous expectations and false equivalence comparisons, but it is something that ppl with rare diseases deal with regularly.
@DawnDavidsonАй бұрын
So sorry you are dealing with that. I agree that it’s very unfair of Celine (and other similar performers) to set expectations so high for you and everyone struggling with diseases.
@TheAnimeistАй бұрын
Agreed. Everybody handles it in their own way. This is true even for injuries. Stay strong, wishing you a swift recovery!
@lizatsurkan4323Ай бұрын
@DawnDavidson Celine does not have to limit herself just because other people do not have the resources that she does
@Francesco71rmАй бұрын
@@lizatsurkan4323 oh.. So why the Organization of the Event had to spend 2 millions of usd in private jets, luxury hotels and all expenses for, her family and staff if she has resources?? She could have afford to go to Paris on her own budget then.. And for what?? For a lypsinc performance??
@cindi1313Ай бұрын
@@lizatsurkan4323 The resources to pretend to have recovered you mean?
@pellier08Ай бұрын
Anybody who is a fan of Celine like me, and who's not delusional, knows that this is the sound from her album recorded about 30 years ago.
@MickSupperАй бұрын
Only real fans don't care. lol
@pellier08Ай бұрын
@MickSupper by real fans you mean the fanatic delusional I guess. Yeah you're right then, they see Celine as a Barbie doll, not a singer. They love the fake image of her that is advertised. They love everything about her but don't care about her real voice.
@RachelLWolfeАй бұрын
Agreed. The 2024 performance sounds exactly like the recording from her CD. I love her music, and sang along every time her songs played. I still do. Being a singer myself, I know what it takes to belt those tunes. and I absolutely feel for what she's going through, but this is mimed.
@archieolmstead6688Ай бұрын
Yup
@johnnyramone8051Ай бұрын
@@MickSupper so the real fans do not care about music?
@singingwayАй бұрын
He is so compassionate, so caring. Love that about Fil !
@bertinewithgodallthingsare4361Ай бұрын
If they have nothing nice to say don't say anything at all. Celine Dione is the best singer in the world who has such a amazing powerful voice in the world. I just love listening to her voice she is such amazing beautiful woman who has the biggest loving caring kind gentle wonderful thoughtful compassion encouraging heart ❤️ 💙 love you Celine may God bless you and your health.
@jcortese3300Ай бұрын
I'm reminded of two other singers: Pavarotti and Beverly Sills. After Sills retired, she was asked once to sing again, and she refused, saying something like, "It's meaningless to drag my voice out again and see if it can still do what it used to do. It can't." She even refused to sing when she was by herself. And when Pavarotti mimed in his very last appearance as an old and sick man, he mimed openly, and it was understood as a gesture of kindness and remembered glory which touched audiences. He didn't pretend to really sing.
@txmike1945Ай бұрын
Like Linda Ronstadt.
@WatchoutforsnakezАй бұрын
@@txmike1945she ain’t pretending right? She does not sing. Do you know of recordings where she was struggling before her diagnosis?
@Spo-Dee-O-DeeАй бұрын
Pavarotti had been miming outside the opera house starting no later than 1992. Nobody really cared. He had made his bones on stage years ago, and the purists who would throw a fit about him miming along with James Brown and Bono weren't showing up anyway for a pop spectacle.
@lucia_cossu_voiceteacherАй бұрын
A light technician working for his concerts told me that it was not all purely by him for years, well before the last concert. This is not a recent issue with concerts but just gone very very far.
@utubby3730Ай бұрын
@@Watchoutforsnakez She has sung plenty LIVE. I cannot speak with a matter of certainty as to when or how often she has used any backing tracks or other digital manipulation over her career, but we do know obviously that she does/has. If you want one which she was definitely live and was 'off' prior to her diagnosis, she sang "Taking chances" on Xfactor UK many years ago. I remember watching it and recognising she was indeed off. Dont know if thats online/around now unedited - but you will know for she if it is or not, because it was obvious. I have seen her live myself a few times and she was certainly live! Ive seen a few televisied performances which were also absolutely live.
@Antaios632Ай бұрын
I almost got into an argument with a guy in a bar about this! 😄 I don't understand why people need their idols to be bulletproof and infallible. Celine is an absolute icon, but she's just as vulnerable to age, illness & vanity as the rest of us. I blame an industry and a fandom that values glamour over reality as much or more than I blame Celine.
@cuthbertallgood7781Ай бұрын
How is it not Celine's fault? If she can't perform, she can't perform. Nobody is forcing her to lie to people about whether she's singing. It is 100% her choice to lie to her fans. Nobody expects age to not have an effect on performers. Everyone expects performers to only perform if they're capable of it and not lie to people.
@lydiabentley3413Ай бұрын
Antaios632 Good point
@vaskylarkАй бұрын
You answered your own question, it's because they ARE idols. They shouldn't be either, and if they weren't then they wouldn't expect them to be infallible. The music industry isn't trying to put out good music, they are trying to create Idols.
@JazzyJabbzАй бұрын
Singing live = ✅ Pretending to sing live = ❌ Just make it simple for you mate ☺️
@lizatsurkan4323Ай бұрын
@JazzyJabbz 😂
@Juliet-y3gАй бұрын
Everything you do on this channel is excellent. You are spreading the truth with integrity and we all appreciate it. Keep it going!
@homegown1234Ай бұрын
Thank you Fil for keeping it real and honest. Thanks again.
@lizatsurkan4323Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@RayneRuth7 күн бұрын
You are a man of honor and courage. I hope you profoundly understand that the level of integrity with which you operate is exceptional. Hold fast, your work is incredibly valuable.
@LesleyAnne261Ай бұрын
Professional, sincere analysis - and extraordinarily kind. Thank you.
@claudianash9811Ай бұрын
I am really glad that you have enlightened us about all of this current abuse in the music industry, but I sure miss the analyses on the amazing guitarists and vocalists from the past, Fil! So educational and entertaining, as well. Hope to be seeing/hearing some of the old school artists again soon!
@Vingreg65Ай бұрын
Me to
@debrakalb2548Ай бұрын
I love Fil but I'm even getting tired of these auto tune/lip syncing controversial videos.
@MostlyBuicksАй бұрын
I will never understand why people prefer sweet lies over ugly truth. Just give me some truth. All I want is the truth.
@cdfistaken5437Ай бұрын
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! Just kidding. I couldn't resist.
@ΑνεστηςΜαυριδης-τ2κАй бұрын
She cant tell the truth to her self ,how in the world she is going to tell the truth to others ? You ask too much from your fellow humans :-) by the way apart from lies and truth,Sweet is better than ugly.
@lizatsurkan4323Ай бұрын
@ΑνεστηςΜαυριδης-τ2 😂
@L1623VPАй бұрын
Fear and denial. That's what it is. It reminds me of a newspaper cartoon I saw once. Two movie theaters on the same city block were showing two different films. The first one was showing "A Comforting Lie" on the marquee while the other was showing "The Brutal Truth." Naturally, the line for the first theater was around the block, and no one was at the box office of the second theater.
@AndySalinger33Ай бұрын
Money for rope. 😉🍏
@vmm44Ай бұрын
Also, Linda Ronstadt retired when she became ill. She even stated that she didn't feel right charging people money when she felt like she was "barking" out the songs. She didn't continue to go on stage and "perform" via lip sync, etc.
@ConstantiaVertedАй бұрын
Yep I mean I think that was before there was as much of these technologies being widely used. Also it's someone with a bit of a different personality. Plus Linda's condition can cause incontinence. Doesn't matter whether your vocal's pretty, most people aren't going to be confident if they don't know whether or not they're going to s**t themselves on stage.
@SS-qo4xeАй бұрын
I have loved Linda since I bought the first Stone Ponies album in 67. Now we are both old but we have our memories. I am happy to watch videos of her talking growing up and politics. I suppose from now on it might be printed interviews and written musings from her. I am fine with that because I remember the great artist that was and the fantastic human being who is.
@summerforever6736Ай бұрын
She had integrity
@ronwoodhouse2896Ай бұрын
As a chef I do something very similar. After people pay their hard-earned money for a unique experience, I show them a photo-shopped picture of some food. When people complain I tell them to lay off because it doesn’t matter.
@smurf902Ай бұрын
@@ConstantiaVerted it wasn't before, was only about 15 years ago. Linda is from a different generation (70s) when EVERYONE sang live. Every time. She had that standard and didn't want to refrain from it
@TreantmonksTempleАй бұрын
What's so effective here is we don't even need to look at the software analysis. You can hear exactly when the audio of the 2019 and 2024 performance become identical.
@alexanderSydneyOzАй бұрын
You just cannot prove it objectively
@L1623VPАй бұрын
@@alexanderSydneyOz What do you mean prove it objectively? Fil matched the vocal lines up, and they lay identically one over the other. It's the SAME performance five years apart, which is impossible. The software isn't a fan of any singer. It's entirely objective.
@hannekezijlmans6578Ай бұрын
I wanted to believe she was singing live, no matter how unlikely. I agree that the performance itself, without live singing, still is an amazing accomplishment for her.
@tangogrrlАй бұрын
Which is fine, but it should be notated in some way, for transparency. I imagine it’s extremely challenging for her to even stand that long in short heeled shoes. Just say she is ‘performing’, not singing.
@DiamondGirl-1234Ай бұрын
Straight forward analysis is all about facts and data. People's feelings and thoughts are irrelevant. We all have feeling for her health issues. But the facts speak for themselves. Great job on this one, Fil
@NinjaKittyBonksАй бұрын
♦'s are for 🐈bonking 🤗
@pjford5254Ай бұрын
" People's feelings and thoughts are irrelevant", prepare to be assimilated........
@NinjaKittyBonksАй бұрын
@@pjford5254 ... "There are 4 lights!"
@NinjaKittyBonksАй бұрын
yt [sha + dowed] 2 replies to you
@sandracox4341Ай бұрын
@pjford5254 , 🙄 people can feel however they want to feel about anything. But they can't argue that FIl isn't correct in his analysis. I don't care how much you idolize, admire, or worship your favorite singer/artist/performer the fact is this day and age of technology too many, dare I say most of them are not singing live in concerts. Pay for it or don't, but gone are the days of live actual singing. Hell many of the pop stars out today can't sing. They have beautiful packaging and the rest is created in the studio. I heard Katy Perry sing live on a program 10 years or so ago, and it was absolutely horrible.
@karenrussell9672Ай бұрын
This is a lesson to all of us. Everying is illusion. We tend to believe all the stories that we carry around. For instance the story of a premanent fixed inherent self. Thank you Fil for keeping it real.
@TheWhore2cultureАй бұрын
I had the pleasure of knowing Ms Cila Black toward the end of her life & she was a superstar that set the stage for the present crop,but,the lady never lied. At a dinner one night she explained how her nose job 'destroyed' her original voice & that her performances were just that,using a manipulated master track,she'd maybe do a live intro,or have a moment, but,it was why she concentrated so hard & successfully on creating a new persona as a presenter & left someone else to use her masters to record the intro & finale to her crop of new shows. For a lady who was bigger than the beatles,she was a sweetheart who never tried to charge vast amounts of money for "live" shows,she got on and did what she was fantastic at,connecting, be it one to one,a soundstage or a theatre where she performed letting her personality do the heavy work and though well rehearsed,it was rare she spoke the same lines twice. Love your work,please keep doing what you're doing.
@angelakodicekАй бұрын
Very interesting information. At what point in her career did she get the rhinoplasty? I wasn’t aware she had nose surgery.
@TheWhore2cultureАй бұрын
@angelakodicek After she married,she started to loose the old drive to be the original Cilla - which I just noticed I spelt wrong above,I'm super dyslexic- in an article from the Observer archive dated 25th January 1970,it discuses her having a mole removed,her front teeth capped,her nose reshaped & even mentions her changing her hair colour. It also discuses her belief to become a 35 year old pop singer would be pathetic & now thinks about her family image. It also says "her voice is disciplined & calm & no longer convinces you she believes what she says. When she first pleaded 'Anyone Who Has a Heart ',you knew she ment it. When she now warbles 'If I ever thought you'd change your mind',to whom is she talking(singing)? Not,I suspect, to you or me. The fire in her voice has gone out.......That reshaped nose was the last self-conscious gesture.She now looks as well as sounds like everyone else" written by Tony Palmer critiquing her reinvention as a family friendly star,she's lost what made her special. I was actually hunting for a date,but,I think that explains why she was so blunt about what she was doing ,no longer the singer who at £4,000 a week before the Beatles was like an English Striesand,with a voice that you can still listen to. Also after her husband Bobby died she was lost,I met her with the much missed Paul O'Grady,who got back out clubbing. She was always very sweet,kind to anyone who wanted a photo or an autograph, her death was a shock,but,she'd said she was ready to join Bobby & wasn't going to hang on & on like her Mum.Wishing you&your a Happy Holidays.
@angelakodicekАй бұрын
@ thanks so much for sharing; such interesting stories about Cila. Merry Christmas!
@KYRIE_eleison2Ай бұрын
Excellent job of being impartial and just stating the facts, Fil. Celine is a legend and always will be, so deception is not required. Just be honest with your audience and then there is nothing to expose. It's really quite simple.
@elizabethmiller7291Ай бұрын
Trying to understand why she is taking the deception route to her re-emergence amidst her illness. Maybe she is okay with it because she is thinking that this is just the beginning of getting back to live vocals which she perhaps feels is still possible. I hope she isn't deceiving herself.
@lizatsurkan4323Ай бұрын
@elizabethmiller7291 I feel like the press and social media would have had a field day if she had done that live and it happend to sound bad. But at the same time she still needs to get some type of stimulation and be in the crowd. It’s step by step
@elizabethmiller7291Ай бұрын
@@lizatsurkan4323 I feel like she should just be honest with herself and stop doing these non-live performances.
@lizatsurkan4323Ай бұрын
@elizabethmiller7291 Worry about yourself, Celine knows what she is doing. And stop assuming things about her voice when you don’t know anything
@elizabethmiller7291Ай бұрын
@@lizatsurkan4323 Yes, she knows that she is deceiving her fans. I'm not assuming anything. What I know is what was demonstrated here in this analysis video and others. At least Celine and her team have not issued a take down request of these analyses.
@chantalmartelcaАй бұрын
So important to tell the truth. People don't always like to hear it...but it's an important value. Thank you for doing it!!
@markkinnish1196Ай бұрын
Great update as always Fil
@don7294Ай бұрын
Lying is lying no matter the situation. We are all, hopefully, taught to be honest always. If society decides that fraud and dishonesty is acceptable, then all is lost and nothing is real. Thanks, Fil. You are doing a great job. Keep uncovering the truth!!! IMHO, Celine is a legend and inspiration, but she should not perform live(?) if she is unable to.
@chrisbodi6470Ай бұрын
Agreed! As these fraudulent singers go further into unethical business, the live music industry is tainted terribly. I for one, find it appalling… Fil is doing us a favor revealing this underhanded dishonesty…..
@alexanderSydneyOzАй бұрын
This sort of comment assumes that the person actually singing is an important part of the experience. That is not necessarily the case. Only if it is, AND they are represented to be singing when they aren't, does it become fraud and dishonestly. My feeling is that, for a swathe of artists, the fans who buy tickets don't really care, as there is MUCH more to seeing a live performance than whether or not, or the extent to which, the singer is actually singing. That is why (some) have pyrotechnics, back up singers, costumes, lights etc. Plus Being There is a huge part of why people go. After all, if it was just about vocal quality, you would stay home and play a CD. I agree it disappointing, but I think the people up in arms about miming or near-miming are typically not those who even listen to artists inclined to do that.
@RosannasfriendАй бұрын
She can continue performing and lip-synching if she wants to. Who the hell are you to tell her not to. Let her do things as she wants and as she needs to and see how far she can go with her vocal recovery. That is still her voice on the record recording, and much of what we hear is recent. Not all of it is from 30 years ago. This is what gives her a reason to live and she can keep on doing it. She didn’t tell anybody that it’s alive. And her fans already know what’s up. So don’t pretend to be concerned about us. You’re just looking for a reason to be self-righteous.
@lizatsurkan4323Ай бұрын
@chrisbodi6470 😂 Keep clutching your pearls
@SoCal90755Ай бұрын
There is a percentage of fans that want to see her regardless…. Don’t watch….
@dwaynewladyka577Ай бұрын
Thanks for opening this up. People pay a lot of money for concerts and they do need to know that they are not paying for miming. Cheers, Fil! ✌️
@utubby3730Ай бұрын
I think you would have to be a bit dilussional to assume you are getting a fully live vocal. Backing tracks are things, and singers use them to give their voices breaks - especially the more mature they get. If I was going to see Celine 'Live' now, I wouldnt for a moment (nor have I in the past!) expected all LIVE. I would rather all LIVE, sure. But I dont expect it. However, I would be pissed if the whole show was mimed for sure. Even as a long time fan of Celine - if you cant sing at all, its time to stop. I cant speak for her current state, only that with the recent health troubles and these one-off events, I understand the miming in these cases.
@dwaynewladyka577Ай бұрын
@utubby3730 I've been to around 275 concerts. I would know if I saw something that was mimed. Music fans shouldn't be getting ripped off.
@drforjcАй бұрын
@@utubby3730 It should still be disclosed to the consumer considering purchasing tickets.
@lizatsurkan4323Ай бұрын
@utubby3730 Thank you, finally somebody sane in here
@psikiyatristuzm.dr.ahmethe3360Ай бұрын
Live performance or not. It doesn't matter much. Seeing this wonderful woman well on stage is already a chance in itself.
@JillyMsingsАй бұрын
Another banger show , Fil ! 🎉 Thanks so much for the invaluable info you proffer on the biz that is music. 😃 Keep on rockin' ! ❤
@loriematthews6418Ай бұрын
That lack of transparency isn't healthy.... Thank you Fil!🌷 You said it! It's that simple.
@kruszerАй бұрын
Yeah. And she was SOOOO transparent in that "I am Celine" so the need to fake singing so fans will still love her doesn't make sense. We already know she's got health issues and her fans didn't stop being fans for it. Why perpetuate the illusion that she's able-bodied and healthy? I think it's internalized ableism to some degree. She will probably only end up making her health worse in the long-run by pushing herself. Especially if she ends up with long-C0Vid from public exposure.
@ivannovotny4552Ай бұрын
I totally agree with everything you said Fil... keep on doing the great job and stay awesome.
@undersixtyАй бұрын
Very tactfully said. Love your honest opinion and videos.❤
@CPenner9Ай бұрын
Here’s the breakdown for those interested (I’m a huge Céline fan so I know most of the details): On tour/in shows since 1994, Céline has always lip-synched 90% of The Power of Love to a pre-recorded track. She always sings the first verse live, then it cuts into the prerecorded track at the first chorus (just like in this video) for the rest of the song. She used the 1994 prerecorded track (recorded in 1993 / 1994) until 2009. Then she re-recorded a new one to use in 2011, which is the one you are hearing here. However, this fashion show performance is the first time she ever lipped the first verse. The Céline voice you are hearing during this first verse is from 1993/1994. We have never heard this track before, and many of us fans speculate that this is the first verse of that pre-recorded track from 1994 that was never used as she always sang the intro live (it’s in the same key and from the same years and she likely would’ve recorded the whole song). To summarize the two performances shown here: 2019 - LIVE then 2011 track 2024 - some 1993/1994 track then 2011 track
@elizabethmiller7291Ай бұрын
How do you explain the apparent pitch correction being used, in Fil's professional opinion, in the first bit of the 2024 performance ... you say that is from some 1993/1994 track which would have been BEFORE digital pitch correction came on the scene?? Of course, the '93/'94 track could have been pitch corrected later... And, you say the vocals were live in the first bit of the 2019 performance but, to my untrained eye at least, that looks a bit pitch corrected too which means a pre-recorded vocal??
@imaliveukАй бұрын
Spot on. I actually think - without delving deeply into it that the first verse is the album version pitched lower. Maybe? She does sing a lot of her songs live though - but she does have a few she chooses to lip - just to preserve her voice so she can perform for many more years. The only thing I did think was weird was when they pitch corrected ‘some’ notes of the ‘Power of Love ‘ on the new day DVD from the original lipped track - it sounded awful! Then they recorded a new version to dub over the taking chances tour. Huge fan here. Even on her DVD. Love her. She CAN sing - her live french songs are always live.
@alexbodi5526Ай бұрын
I think the first verse mostly consists of the studio version, as in what we hear on The Colour of my Love album. The difference is it's just pitched down. It doesn't quite have a live sound to me either. Although I almost would be willing to believe this more than the 1994 track in 2009 compared to the first verse.
@alexbodi5526Ай бұрын
@@elizabethmiller7291 There may have been slight pitch correction on the first verse of the 2019 one, which is actually Tokyo 2018. That entire concert has pitch correction, Think Twice is a good example.
@elizabethmiller7291Ай бұрын
@@alexbodi5526 And, that would mean that first verse is a pre-recorded vocal then and there is no live vocal in either of the performances looked at here by Fil, right?
@drummersagainstitkАй бұрын
Thanks Phil for all your work. It is very important. Some ppl don't have a clue what is coming.
@debbier938Ай бұрын
Hi Fil, This was a very poignant and eloquent analysis. I have really liked all of Celine’s songs over the years and have even performed a couple. It is sad she has been through such a rough patch of health issues. I think the importance at this point is as you said, to celebrate her amazing career and support her decision to still “perform” live to the best of her ability. Grateful for her music and to you for keeping it real and doing it in a respectful and positive way. You Are The Best! Debbie! ☮️
@PyrozBlazegateАй бұрын
I love that you did this, Fil. It turned out exactly how I hoped it would. I could hear the shift in the audio from the start to the first chorus, which clearly shows it was two separate recordings edited to sound like one. I also appreciate how you addressed vocal coaches "pretending" that performances are live just for clout. Honestly, if someone can't be honest about these things or can't hear the difference, I’m not sure they should be a vocal coach, you know? The data really speaks for itself. I’m definitely going to look for that first audio. A lot of the later performances from A New Day: Live in Las Vegas (and subsequent shows) were heavily synced to prerecorded tracks. It's baffling how some people argue otherwise-common sense just seems to escape them, especially when they’re so convinced they’re right, even when they’re clearly wrong. The fact that people with SPS reached out to you asking about Celine's vocal exercises makes it feel like you had a moral obligation to make this video. It’s so important to set the record straight. I also know there’s another song, I’m Alive, where she lip-syncs as well, but it’s remixed with a backing track that gives it more of an Arabic vibe. This was a stellar video-thank you so much for doing this request! I really appreciate it!
@lizatsurkan4323Ай бұрын
Yeah keep hounding someone who has a terminal illness good for you
@MrSeedi76Ай бұрын
Oh, and I'm really enjoying the channel! You're awesome!
@PotterheadCoryАй бұрын
This is the first video I've ever seen of yours and to say I am impressed at your detailed, professional, knowledgeable analysis is an understatement. For me personally, I've always just been able to tell if someone is performing live or not. I can't explain how; it's just something I'm able to distinguish. Seeing you scientifically show and verbalize how is fascinating! All that said, you eluded to the fact that not singing live does not mean it wasn't still a performance. I am a huge Céline fan and it is still a triumph that she's able to perform at all, whether she's singing live or not. Everything you said aside from the analysis was spot on. Very well done! You gained a new subscriber.
@mariamoncadabeldenvillagedashАй бұрын
I am sick of being lied to. The truth shall set us free 😊
@lawrencetaylor4101Ай бұрын
Merci beaucoup for these analyses. When you talked about singers and their voices having been damaged, or simply aged. There is a video of Susan Tedeschi who arranged a concert and had famous singer perform her song. I can't remember who it was, but she said that she couldn't sing like she used to when she was younger. And Susan said it didn't matter, that her fans wanted to celebrate her life and would understand. That would be inspiring for people. Not to carry on a perfection charade.
@prmm218Ай бұрын
Keep on doing what you do!😀
@kathyflorcruz552Ай бұрын
She had a legacy. I don't see why when people know she'd lost her voice she's acting like she's fully recovered & not getting assistance from technology. Just be HONEST about it. That would be much more endearing than being faked out & paying premium ticket prices for a stage show that could be done every night in Vegas. Obviously fans feel duped or the analysis wouldn't be being asked for. And Fil is not being disrespectful at all. Artists who are playing their audiences are being disrespectful.
@JohnDeLeon28Ай бұрын
You do know that these recent performances of Celine are just EVENTS not a CONCERT. Events like these are mostly lipped using pre recorded track. Come back when it’s Concert Time
@lizatsurkan4323Ай бұрын
What “fans”? Those are not fans, those are people who know nothing about her and are out of touch with reality
@ConstantiaVertedАй бұрын
A compassionate and reasonable review, thanks.
@redcloudsliu3335Ай бұрын
Like anything in life, we simply want what’s promised on the price tag or label. Some fans are upset when it’s revealed their idol isn’t fully performing live at a “live” concert. But is this what unconditional love looks like? If you bought a big box of nuts labeled "organic," you’d expect every single nut to be organic-not just some of them, even if the rest are still technically nuts! Just because someone could do something before doesn’t mean they can always do it. Look at how short an athlete’s career span is! There’s nothing shameful about stepping back and starting to enjoy life. Always enjoy this channel ❤
@Spo-Dee-O-DeeАй бұрын
Your ticket promises you a live performance, not live vocals.
@redcloudsliu3335Ай бұрын
@Spo-Dee-O-Dee vocal part is the most important ingredient of a live singsing concert. What about you ordered an expansive organic steak dinner plate, the steak is not organic though, however, you got organic potato and asparagus organic, enjoy!
@Spo-Dee-O-DeeАй бұрын
@@redcloudsliu3335 Nah...when we went to see Stevie Nicks back in the day, it was all about the three different dresses she was wearing that night. Singing was definitely a secondary concern.
@L1623VPАй бұрын
Interesting, but good example. I find it odd that some say, "Oh, but Celine originally sang all those notes on the pre-recorded track." Yes, but she's not singing all the notes live NOW. There's just something inherently dishonest about it. The bottom line is it's a deception.
@redcloudsliu3335Ай бұрын
@@L1623VP Exactly!
@lieslwindjulie3230Ай бұрын
Thanks for this analysis, Fil! 🖤🤘🏽
@love4musicukАй бұрын
As soon as i saw this video i knew it wasnt live. I dont think her voice will ever return to what it was, but I'm just glad to see her doing better and back doing what she loves and makes her happy. I'll always love her no mater what. She's a legend!
@FutureLover83Ай бұрын
yeah this particular performance wasn't live but what do you mean her voice will never return to what it was??? Celine's voice has always been great and never ever got worse!! she is actually the only vocalist that kept her voice as it always was and you can hear it yourself in all her live performances until 2 years ago
@TimmyMEАй бұрын
There is a very simple rule most music on TV with very few exeptions. If it is on TV it is not live. Celine Dion is great.
@mandybarnett3647Ай бұрын
Fil, I have something very similar to her diagnosis...except I don't go into a seizure. This woman has worked insanely..and is quite the show woman! Even to get into a dress and makeup and walk, smile and I know the whole time there is a GREAT deal of nervous energy to even do THAT much..although I still move okay there is not a minute without excruciating pain. I was singing from the age of 12. There is a wonder with people who can pull themselves together and just go somewhere! No joke I was fit..but it's a nerve disease. I imagine overwork and her love for her fans got that dear soul out in PUBLIC..I never know how my voice is going to be. My last gig was wild. My smart brother had 4 guitars tuned to the major keys in my range. It looked fine on video..but whatvpeople will never understand what it took..the MOXY of her dedication is what keeps her training and trying. She is relentless about doing it all and presenting her very best self to her fans because she truly LOVES them. She has IVF which I wonder about..and lost the two most important people in her life. Her dedication is untouchable. She got UP and DID her life. The positive love from her fans is the fuel she now burns. When on the red carpet you can totally see the jumping her nerves do. Flashing lights, tons of people and overstimulating crowds of people who JUST WANT TO SEE her! Her week might look like she won't be able to get out of bed, feed her dog, talk with her boys. I come on here because you are a great person full stop. You are honest here..thank you. No we may never hear her talents fully again. Or like me it comes but I can't depend on it even to lead worship in church that I have been at for 40 years! I am a usually fairly loud singer..a belting ballad kind of girl. I did my scale practice bent over..so I can project. I have started studying older singers and why they last. There are shortened words or stylized long notes...but look at Smokey Robinson..he has never changed. We each get what we get in this life. I have had days where I knew I was between life and death. Celine was using a heck of a lot of Valium and with our bodies drugs don't do much..but let you cling to life longer. Those meds could actually be WHY she goes stiff and seizes. Her ability to show the world her truth and that takes guts and faith. It's different and she didn't seize on the red carpet. I have an epileptic daughter so I am well versed on how medicine.. yes folks medicine.. not drugs...can really help some but hurts others. Love and honour run deep in her. When I sing I chance a spasm that is strong enough to break my ribs. There are like 60 muscles and 30 ligaments that help with sustaining a voice. She will always be a pro. Show up to let the fans see she is as good as possible. She has hideous times..when her body will literally freeze if she moves. How long was she in Vegas? Long enough to bring on this hideous illness. Nobody knows much or enough about it either! So if she gets up, endures triggers..it would be swell if people who cry over a hang nail could BEGIN to understand the pure atheletism it took to do what she did, we have to STOP this critical behavior. LOVE motivates her. If I can sing a bit I love it..but like my brother says ..they don't make a capo for throats !!! Many great singers have to be real. She has been brutall 11:34 changed and I know some never get started so respect. She still works on her ballet and the gift was her presence...not her voice I read so much garbage about this one in a million disease. We all are affected differently..like snowflakes we are all different. I know her throat is badly affected. Knowing her character..these are baby steps in her recovery. How do we know how she felt when she got hone? I'd be off for a week! ❤😮
@paulaknight7553Ай бұрын
@@mandybarnett3647 Beautifully Written 👍 THE mention you stated what your bro Said THEY DONT MAKE A CAPO FOR THE THROUGH ( Loved that) but you know PREETY MUCH most People Can Sing ,find your RITE Key ,Correct Octive & RITE Song 🎵 Use your diafram,Lots of breathing exercises, NOT Your throat, & from your heart & Soul & your ON your way! OK 👍 O as long as your not tone deaf Major factor.
@MrBruno841Ай бұрын
Well, I think Celine has been slowly rebuilding her confidence to perform with these recent appearances. When she's ready to sing live again (for real), she will. Personally I don't see her miming as a sign of dishonesty. She's always been very selective about the types of appearances where she'd sing live, and for good reason (why overusing your voice knowing that your audience demands flawless vocals every single time?). A singer of her caliber is held to impossibly high standards. Miming here and there doesn’t diminish her talent or legacy, it just shows she’s human.
@txmike1945Ай бұрын
Then please tell all of us, what is the purpose of appearing live but NOT singing live? Seriously. What is the point?
@MrBruno841Ай бұрын
@txmike1945 Like I said, I think it makes sense for her to take it slow and still perform in some capacity while she retrains vocally and prepares to go back to live singing. Also that's just how the music industry operates. Not every performance is fully live at all times - sometimes just for production reasons.
@jeffreyadams8264Ай бұрын
Great job Phil. Just keep calling it the way it is. Tell the truth like you always have.
@BobbyinTnАй бұрын
Doesn’t change my opinion of her one bit. She is a legend and one of the best vocalists to ever live.
@christiand8243Ай бұрын
One of the best vocalists but far from being the best when you compare to opera singers, for example
@TynkaTopiАй бұрын
@@christiand8243 Well, opera singers are the beasts in a good way. I remember when Aida Garifullina said in an interview that she practices with a vocal teacher for 2 hours every day remotely. She did not say how much she practice alone. But as always, vocal practice is what makes masters, not singing.
@christiand8243Ай бұрын
@TynkaTopi indeed!
@magneto7930Ай бұрын
It's unbelievable that people are telling you not to spoil the magic by revealing the truth behind her performance. Apparently, they think it's okay to give false hope to people who have had her illness. That's sad.
@tangogrrlАй бұрын
For real. I’ve read many comments, and although extremely rare, some folks with it have commented along those lines. She can train like an athlete every day, but there is NO cure for this. Auto-immune diseases are relentlessly unfair.
@magneto7930Ай бұрын
@tangogrrl I would have a lot more respect for an artist who came out and said "I am no longer able to do this, but let's fight to find a cure," or something to that effect. It's much better than giving people false hope.
@f.kieranfinney457Ай бұрын
Given her immense health problems I doubt any fan begrudges her use of tech to perform. Everyone just wants to see her one last time. We all know she can sing actually live and absolutely kill your resolve not to cry.
@FylgjaFeldsdottirАй бұрын
Thank you so much... your videos are so eye opening. And here I am beating myself up, if I can't hit a note perfectly... 😅 Thanks so much!!
@lydiabentley3413Ай бұрын
I like the fact that you delve deep to bring out the truth & facts, which are indisputable to all. We all love Celine but facts are facts as you have proven.
@stevebobamerican8635Ай бұрын
Keep ‘em coming Fil
@WatchJoelTVАй бұрын
I can't say for sure 100% here that this would apply, but I was a sound engineer at a popular theater and mixed for all the big name "has-beens" you might call them, in the industry from Sinatra on down. And I would ride fader's...pushing up a reverb or delay just at the end of a vocal line that would give this sweet trail-off sound, and overlap their next line at times. So you might consider this Fil when it comes to lines "overlapping". I still have a TC Electronics digital delay that you could adjust the pitch of the trailing echo and actually reveal a echo that sounded like a recording tape that was slowing down. I remember D.L. Roth's 1st solo album used the effect in song and thought is was so cool. SO......can pitch be modified esp at the end of a vocal phrase "live" in a performance either intentional or accidental? Absolutely. keep up the good work buddy. Joel
@betsyhughes2208Ай бұрын
Number 1: All chronic conditions or illnesses have different effects on different people.... But of course this is about performance in person, that she walks out on stage was astounding ❤️ Love the performance & the lady & just be happy she's still here....
@tussk.Ай бұрын
Such a shame, but if anybody listening to that show in person didn't notice that her voice went from a nasally whine to a crystal clear bell in the space of second, they're either tone deaf or wilfully ignorant.
@Ellie8447Ай бұрын
Good job Fil 🎸
@pellier08Ай бұрын
Fil, you can easily find her album version on YT. The fact that she didn't even choose a more current version than her 1993 recording is beyond me!!!
@leagilez6208Ай бұрын
Maybe she wants it to be obvious
@tangogrrlАй бұрын
@leagilez6208 What an interesting thought… but why?
@lizatsurkan4323Ай бұрын
@tangogrrl Don’t worry about that it’s over your head anyway
@Rovi-js9ybАй бұрын
Navigating this issue requires sensitivity, and I think you did quite well. Keep up the good work!
@kruszerАй бұрын
Pretending you're not disabled anymore and faking being able-bodied actually erases disabled people from public view. She's a legend. I bet she could still fill stadiums just to have people watch her sit and talk about her career. She doesn't have to fake singing. She could play videos of past performances and talk about the tours and what went into the songs she wrote and people would watch. If she's going to fake sing and have people enjoy the illusion, at least she could be honest that her performance is a theatrical act. Just months before her Olympic performance, her "i Am Celine" documentary came out and I loved her so much for being so raw and honest with her fans. Watching her seize up and stiffen just from the overexertion of trying to record a song in a much more muted range, I cried for her and grieved the end of her career along with her. I felt that she gave visibility to people within the disabled community, especially when she wrestled with sentiments of internalized ableism (talking about herself in past tense, questioning who she'd be without her voice and her fans etc) It feels like it's both external and internal ableism that is pushing her to keep being the Celine that the world always knew, instead of allowing us to love the new Celine for who she is. This is such a 180 from the intimate and honest look into her life and health that the documentary gave us. I feel sad for her that she feels she has to do this. Celebrities have to be allowed to be human and to have health challenges too.
@tangogrrlАй бұрын
That’s brilliant. And you know, they would. Look how many people streamed her autobiography “I am Celine” earlier this year,
@lizatsurkan4323Ай бұрын
Quit psychoanalysing her, you are not qualified
@tangogrrlАй бұрын
@@lizatsurkan4323 It’s clear you want to believe what you want to believe. That’s what fans do.
@lizatsurkan4323Ай бұрын
@@tangogrrl quit changing the topic, the point is that neither you nor this person is a psychologist and therefore not qualified to say how she feels
@davidbenson94Ай бұрын
To me, it's really a question of truth in advertising. If fans want to pay a lot of money for a performance they know isn't really live, great, but the rest who don't should have enough information to also make that choice. I fall into the latter category.
@gretchenwenzel2906Ай бұрын
As always, you are spot on and Golden. Out of all of the musicians that I have interacted with, you were the one that I always felt was missing, which is why I so enjoy watching your videos. We have the same ear an interest in the technical aspect. It truly is not about judgment. At the same time, it is incredibly important to be truthful for several reasons. I didn’t fully appreciate that until I started watching your channel and understanding it was different once is considering all that goes on nowadays, that I was unaware of. Thank you, so much! It’s really feels like I’m spending time with an old friend when I watch. Actually, I’m old, relatively speaking… L O L. ❤️🙏❤️
@smoathАй бұрын
It must be so weird to mime in front of an audience. Knowing they think you're singing.
@txmike1945Ай бұрын
Not for her, getting praise and getting lots of money are the only things important to her.
@lizatsurkan4323Ай бұрын
@txmike1945 😂 keep your lies to yourself
@txmike1945Ай бұрын
@@lizatsurkan4323 Watch the documentary, you'll see it is the truth, she actually says it.
@mahen9661Ай бұрын
Elle chante en même temps de vive voix. C'est ce qui fait que c'est réel et que c'est live quand même. Elle se donne entièrement comme toujours. Peut-être qu'il y a un préenregistrement, mais elle chante avec tout son coeur en même temps. Son microphone est peut-être fermé et c'est ok si c'est le cas. Elle est toute impliquée et c'est beau ! C'est pas de la frime.
@RubenRucoboАй бұрын
Absolutely. More so when you can sing
@RichelleHeacockАй бұрын
I was hoping you would cover this. To me it sounded EXACTLY like her albums
@JamieCleaton1Ай бұрын
FIL! You have another Mariah on your hands! Celine has always sung the first verse live and then prerecorded comes in for the chorus. This performance however, the first verse in my opinion comes from around 2016-19. I’ll have a dig around!
@heeheeriahАй бұрын
The Power Of Love intro is the studio version lowered, then the rest is the 2011 pre-recorded track. I'm Alive is the studio version.
@bvrodАй бұрын
Once again, so respectful to the artist acknowledging the talent while at the same time showing the quantifiable science. We do pay for magic shows knowing full well the elephant is still in the room, so I guess it’s ok to watch a “live” performance knowing there is “trickery” in the show. If I pay for it though, I want to know it’s the person or not. I’d much rather tolerate what the human can produce in all it’s imperfections, that to listen to a recording I can do for nothing on my own couch. Everyone is differnt.
@Eee0rАй бұрын
Your parents must be Pretty Proud Fil. Your analyses are always completely objective but your humanity is what makes them so compelling.
@kapaimanaАй бұрын
I love that you’re exposing the mime. It sucks that we get mislead like this. It’s the Kadashian effect on vocals.
@stefaniabonera5569Ай бұрын
Fil, you are a legend. I’ve always been a massive fan of Céline Dion and I still am, but I think that with her syndrome it is impossible to sing like that from live. I respect your analysis, which is always so accurate and outstanding, but people with ordinary financial means, and with the same syndrome as Céline’s, well, it’s very difficult to be treated in the same way. I wish everyone health and peace. Let’s be grateful for what we have, let’s be a better version of ourselves every single day. Have a nice day (6:56, Italy, going to school-teacher).❤
@singingwayАй бұрын
When people have had a long successful profitable career, why can't they ever just RETIRE? Or better yet, help to mentor the young generation of performers coming up.
@jeanbolduc5818Ай бұрын
i am from Montreal . Celine is the most perfectionist , authetic and master of her voice . She only sings live. She has no stop singeging in her own studio in Las Vegas . he sand live in Paris at the Olympic and she will always sing live as long as she can .
@kiwigirljacksАй бұрын
Oh yay I was one of those who asked you to look at this. I thought it was pretty obvious she was miming.. but as always… people don’t want to believe it. The comments on the videos of this “performance” make it clear also that most people don’t have a clue that she’s mining. I don’t mind the miming …. I do mind the pitch correction!
@sazzlepop321Ай бұрын
She’s been doing this on that song since the tour in 2008
@tayag9223Ай бұрын
@Wings of Pegasus hi Fil, I feel for those folk you have asked for your help and think they are somehow at fault because they can’t apparently do what celine is doing. The fact is I’m afraid celine can’t sing like this live anymore! In the documentary of her illness it was very clear her illness has effected her vocal cords. This is purely a live performance not a live vocal. Please guys, remember not only do producers have software to alter pitch and tune they also have ai to change things. It’s a shame that performers who have had to go down this route decide not to be honest with their fans. Take care Fil
@tangogrrlАй бұрын
It is sad, but you are right. She can’t sing live like that anymore, SPS is.a progressive auto-immune disease with no known cure. She comes to Denver and gets treatments at a large hospital 2 miles from my house. I hope she quits lying before she ruins her legacy.
@lizatsurkan4323Ай бұрын
@tangogrrl Her legacy is not your concern. Also we don’t require you to worry about us - we are fine with what she is doing
@CAScorpioАй бұрын
Thank you for sharing this.. and I feel even if Celine isn't singing live. She did Record the songs.. the Effort is there and seeing Celine "Perform" is something
@Francesco71rmАй бұрын
Some people still didn't get that the point here is not that she was on lipsync.. Most of big events required it since many years.. Even if the artist insisted to be live... The organization wouldn't let it happen in case of last minute technical issues or weather conditions. So this is not the problem, happened to many artists that usually sing live during the years.They had to accept the rules. The problem is lying, lying to the whole world.. She, her staff and musicians telling lies, on TV, on magazines, taking the mickey out of poor silly fans that believed every single words.. Why dont you just say the truth???? Why don't you just say.. "sorry I'm sick and not able to go live??? Some artists in her position in the past, after their performance at some" Opening", they candidly admitted that it was on lipsync because they had to follow rules, even if they were not happy about it .. No.. Just kept lying and lying.. It would have been much better to say the truth from the beginning.. And don't treat people like stupid and deaf.
@Krobra91Ай бұрын
the problem with someone like a whitney houston, celine dion, mariah carey is how well they often take care of their voices. Dion in particular was known in her prime to not even talk for weeks to rest her vocals. And it resulted in this effect of her voice being similar to the albums. What sucks is that for USA markets, her voice is corrected because she often does sound nasally, and that was a EPICALLY HUGE think people pointed out in her prime. So to compensate, producers started correcting her voice on albums as a result The important thing to mention is that i think he does a great job,. but this doesn mean that Dion isn't capable to redoing her album covers of songs she did 30 years ago. Its highly possible given how strict and disciplined she is with her voice. Now with her condition.. is she using vocals yes that should be okay. I hate that dion is the only one facing backlash like this but only apparently from US markets, the french people didnt give a damn they just were glad to the biggest selling french artist singing a french song. Im sure wings does a great job, but sometimes we need to stop and just enjoy this
@Francesco71rmАй бұрын
@@Krobra91 Well.. I guess that you as well didn't get the point of all of it. We are talking about honesty.. All singers then or before use lypsinc or others tools, for many different reasons. But why lie to people and fans, asserting and confirming that it was a live performance when it wasn't???
@lizatsurkan4323Ай бұрын
@Francesco71rm Stop pretending to worry about us we don’t require your concern, we know how she performs. We don’t care what people who are out of touch with reality are going to assume
@Francesco71rmАй бұрын
@liza worry??? Lol, actually I just feel pity... Poor thing.. Lol.... 🤣
@Francesco71rmАй бұрын
LIZA ssssssshhhh.. Please don't disturb ok? I'm listening at some good music.. Don't waste your time writing..bye bye
@samderiv9508Ай бұрын
I am a die hard Céline fan, but I instantly knew that she wasn't singing live, and I argued with so many people about it on Tiktok 💁♂️ I am not an expert, but I am always right about whether a singer is singing live or not just by analyzing their facial expressions ( I am so good at that).
@txmike1945Ай бұрын
I am not a Celine fan but when I watched the "performance" at the Olympics it seemed totally mimed to me, especially because I had watched the documentary about her illness. Maybe they should just state, "We assumed everyone would know it was NOT live because Celine has not been able to sing in many years."
@mimi-3212Ай бұрын
Keep revealing the truth, Fil.
@theresamealer331414 күн бұрын
FULL transparency is the most important thing-& value it now that we are moving into an AI world more than ever. Thank you Fil for being real & not critical or condemning- just answering questions with the truth.
@larka742Ай бұрын
Jon Bon Jovi can be used as an example here, he just said no - I cant sing anymore. I mean, he could just kept on going but used a backing track.
@Jespher1Ай бұрын
That one one the left from Las Vegas is totally live in the beginning . Which it always has been. She is the queen either way.
@utubby3730Ай бұрын
I am a long time Celine fan. Regardless of her health, I think anyone doing this in a career cannot realistically belt out songs night after night without causing harm. Having said that, I dont think you are in a position to state what is the "norm" for her now. And you also dont get to speak for her fans either, I would like to hear her live again - actually live. I have plenty of empathy for her situation, and wont assume anything about what the future holds. Further I can understand the use of backing tracks etc, but I would be lying if I said that if she was to spend the rest of her career miming and manipulating her voice that I would be ok with that.
@elizabethmiller7291Ай бұрын
While I like your comment, Fil is not stating what is the norm for her voice now. He is simply analyzing her very recent live performance and telling us what is actually happening, nothing more or less. Having said that, though, there are bigger issues involved here that need to be addressed if we music lovers are to save great, authentic music from oblivion. And, to lead that mission, there is no one on the planet better positioned and equipped than Fil Henley of Wings of Pegasus.
@utubby3730Ай бұрын
20:01 How else do you interpret that, other than ‘shes cooked’ (put nicely)
@elizabethmiller7291Ай бұрын
@@utubby3730 Here's how I interpret it ... that's easy! If you go back and listen carefully you will see that Fil was explaining that Celine is a great example of a great voice that will sound very much the same from one performance of a song to the next performance of the same song but when you look at the two audio files in detail on a pitch graph they won't match up at all! This is the case for any singer or indeed any human being. Fil talks about this all the time - great singers can sing the same song and have it sound exactly the same to our ears time and time again but when you look at each take in detail on a pitch graph they don't match up. He wasn't disrespecting Celine - on the contrary he was complimenting her and using her as an example of a great singer for people new to the channel to show that the only way it is possible for pitch graphs of audio files to match up is if they are the SAME audio file. This is kind of like a cautionary tale for those of us who like to comment online. Often times we only hear what we expect to hear and things can get very lost in translation.
@leagilez6208Ай бұрын
@@elizabethmiller7291 Unfortunately I don’t think even Fil can win this fight. Moreover, chosing a 56 years old singer with SPS to make his point about how pervasive lipsyncing, pitching or autotuning is in this business doesn’t seem to be very accurate to me. Going after Céline Dion for the second time in a few months, on special events (not concerts), rather looks like he‘s on a mission to take down legends or to publicly punish every « culprit ». Many of his own fans seem to be in this state of mind anyway. I do think he crossed the ethics line here and I don’t buy the « it’s for the people with SPS » narrative, which make it even worse (and unfair by obliterating this personality’s contribution to raise awareness, help diagnose and encourage research). Some people on this thread are quite full of themselves when they judge her as a « mean » person, based on Fil’s analysis.
@elizabethmiller7291Ай бұрын
@leagilez6208 I suppose I can see how some people who aren't familiar with Fil's work and method and general gist of his channel might think that way but it is wholly misguided. Throughout each requested video analysis involving Celine, Fil constantly states how great a singer she is. The last thing he would ever do is "go after" an artist or disparage an artist. I think the main point about the results of these requested Celine analyses is to show just how deep the deception goes. She is talking about another residency in Las Vegas but she doesn't say whether those shows will feature her fully live vocals. Whether they do or they don't is beside the point. The point is that she should be transparent about what she is providing from the stage. I would also imagine that if she says those shows will feature live vocals then there might be one more WoP analysis video that will be heavily requested. just based on her past record of deception. Commenters here and elsewhere who judge her as a mean person are 100 percent responsible for making that sort of judgement and can't blame that on Fil or his analysis. As for the fight against the current music industry standard operating procedures when it comes to digital pitch correction and lip-syncing, you're right - it may very well be a quixotic fight. But I believe it is one worth all of our efforts to save authentic music and human vocals from oblivion and that goes double for the fight to prevent the retroactive and/or posthumous use of pitch correction and/or autotuning on singers' voices that we have known and loved for decades when albums are re-released or songs officially uploaded anew to digital platforms.
@SamBradley424Ай бұрын
Very brave to cover this! Please can someone post the link to the other video of the Olympics ceremony performance?
@dcallan812Ай бұрын
WOW you can really hear the "matched" vocal. Shame people are being misled to believe they should be able to recover as fully and as quick. Interesting video 2x👍
@MickSupperАй бұрын
True fans don't care. lol
@tangogrrlАй бұрын
@@MickSupper What if you were online dating and the person’s profile pic turned out to be 30 years old, would you care about that?
@MickSupperАй бұрын
@@tangogrrl Depends on how old I am. I don't understand the question.
@TMCremixesАй бұрын
It's even more obvious with her performance of "I'm Alive" from the same recent show, because she used the actual 2002 studio version vocals. A new arrangement was built around them, and they're slightly sped up for this particular arabic mix of the song, but they're definitely the original session vocals.
@ukcarlАй бұрын
I wonder how that would look on his pitch analytics graph, if he could still see it matching the original recording? Would be really interesting for him to analyse that one!
@TMCremixesАй бұрын
@ukcarl if he would speed up the original album mix to the BPM of that new live arrangement, the vocals would be the exact same ones, yes.
@Itchy-SphinctaАй бұрын
we dont pay for for fake singing at gigs keep it up Fil ✌️🤘
@tarantellalarouge7632Ай бұрын
it is not only a question of money, but also it is about music, trust and transparency
@SoCal90755Ай бұрын
You did not pay for this nor do you have too! 🙄
@lizatsurkan4323Ай бұрын
@SoCal90755 Exactly they can keep their righteousness and pretending to care about us to themselves
@miller.thorsten27 күн бұрын
And no one paid for it. It’s an ellie saab a fashion designer ranway. All of those singers invited in the event lipped sync.
@SoCal9075527 күн бұрын
@@miller.thorsten 💯
@leightonolsson4846Ай бұрын
Her vocal retraining has led to her singing better than the past 10 years+, pitch correction or no pitch correction. But an odd splicing of audio recordings that wasn't necessary. I think she may well return to live singing at some point, at some point, but for the moment she is going to be doing live performances. Each one is a test of how her body copes with the stress.
@yvonnevanwaegeningh-tiggel4577Ай бұрын
As soon as you started playing the Ellie Saab performance I thought 'this sounds exactly like the album / like we've heard it on the radio all those years... Maybe you could compare this recent performance with the original? Don't get me wrong by the way, I've got an awful lot of respect for Celine and what she's going through, and for being on stage again. I think everyone will understand that she can not sing as she used to due to her illness, and I don't mind at all that she's not singing live. But I totally agree with you Fil, that it is very important for people with a similar diagnosis to know that it is not some miracle they didn't find or didn't work hard enough for. And that they don't think negatively about themselves for not being able to perform as they used to. Lots of love to all those people. I can just hope from the bottom of my heart that for all of you there will be a way to find back your voice and sing again ❤
@MelodyRocks5Ай бұрын
I am a big Celine Dion fan and she will always be a legend in my book, but I have to be honest here when I saw the Paris Olympics Opening Ceremony performance my initial thought was how does she sound liked she did 25 years ago? It’s impossible for anyone to sound like that with the disease she battling with. I understand that she will probably never have a true live vocal again, but it’s still disingenuous. There are people suffering with the same vocal issues that don’t have the luxury to perform on stage with a pre-recorded pitch corrected track. I also wonder if this a Mariah Carey thing and they have a whole vault performances to comp with, and I wonder how far back it goes? Yes it’s great she is there for a “live performance” but still feels wrong. Anyways, great analysis video as always and thanks for fighting for artistic integrity and transparency.
@mahen9661Ай бұрын
Toutes les prestations des artistes étaient préenregistrées aux jeux olympiques. Céline a été filmé sur smartphone par un des membres de l'équipe qui l'accompagnait sur la tour Effel pendant qu'elle chantait et on entendait clairement sa voix au naturel avec la pluie sans effet spéciaux. Un son brut sans micro et c'était très bien ! Ils ont tous applaudit à la fin. Possiblement qu'on a entendu une bande sonore, mais elle chantait en même temps avec un micro probablement fermé et c'était sincère et intense. Tout son coeur y était sans aucun doute. Donc pas de lipsynch muet, c'est certain.
@johnhill3376Ай бұрын
Hey Fil-could you do a video on Billy Strings? He is well liked by many people, but not me. Haha. I’m hoping an analysis would help me understand why it doesn’t work for me. Love your channel, musical sensibility, and expertise. THANK YOU!
@cindi1313Ай бұрын
He has 2 videos on Billy Strings. I think people must not see the 🕵 search engine on the main Wings of Pegasus page because I see people asking him to do videos on people he has done all the time.
@johnhill3376Ай бұрын
@ oh cool can’t wait to watch. Thank you!!!
@Potts1966Ай бұрын
People pretending to sing live is dishonest, wrong and a sign of poor character, especially at the prices stars are charging for concerts these days.
@txmike1945Ай бұрын
That is why my favorite, P!NK always sings live, even when she is upside down doing a gymnastics routine.
@bvrodАй бұрын
Especially at the prices…. Stars are not born today they are fabricated and marketed. Regardless, can’t argue Celine was a star, and worked her ass off getting there x can’t take that away.
@LenStgelaisАй бұрын
Sign of poor caracter????? Céline Dion??? You SIMPLY DON'T KNOW what you are talking about 🙄🙄🙄 shame on you judging poeples like that,🙄🫣
@ValBoschi-ix9cdАй бұрын
Yes, it's dishonesty.
@txmike1945Ай бұрын
@@LenStgelais It is called pride ahead of honesty. That is poor character. If she had good character, she would admit that her "performances" now are mimes. We wouldn't have to guess.
@NiGHTSaturnАй бұрын
As someone who lives in Québec and has had Céline's voice all around his life on radio, tv, and as a producer, my ear doesn't lie to me. The intro before the first chorus is Céline singing in 1992-93, just listen to an A cappella of the studio recording, they chose a slightly different take of the song, and pitched corrected it to fit the recording she has lip synched to for years. Her voice changed drastically around 2002, a bit more closed.
@geraldswan2476Ай бұрын
I’m a huge fan of Jethro Tull and Mark Knopfler and recent videos show Ian Anderson’s voice has weakened and Mark is simplifying his guitar solos. Ian is now 77 and Mark 75 so I accept they aren’t quite the force they were but so what, it’s just fantastic they still want to perform LIVE for us, their fans.
@someone-lm3lnАй бұрын
Thank you!
@LadybassguitarplayerАй бұрын
I agree with others here. If she had only said some of this was pre-recorded/merged, people would understand.
@richardpatrick2852Ай бұрын
I've never seen an artist announce or even admit that a performance of theirs is lip-synced. That would be a first. On 2nd thought, maybe the Partridge Family!
@jeandonaldson2290Ай бұрын
25 000 000%, the need for transparency. You’ve nailed it.
@trubrit5036Ай бұрын
If they were upfront, telling their audience that they can't sing live throughout the whole concert/performance, because of whatever, then that would be acceptable. I bet the fans/audience would just be happy to see them. But to not tell the audience is called faking it. I don't care how famous you are or not, fake is fake. Be upfront and honest. Thank you, Fil.
@RosannasfriendАй бұрын
There is nothing to be exposed to her fans have known for years that she lip sync so many of her performances and goes back-and-forth. Stop pretending to be concerned for us. We don’t care. Focus on your own favorite singers and what you like. Leave Celine alone. What she’s doing even without singing live is still impressive. Stiff person syndrome wouldn’t have allowed her to even lip-synch six months ago. And the recording is still Recent, so it’s impressive that she was able to do that.
@LilyInCanadaАй бұрын
She is a legend. Stop judging. Will you be strong enough like her if you suffer what she has been through? Losing a person’s most cherished possessions, what will you be feeling? Please be respectful.
@katekleinsteuber7652Ай бұрын
It's a lie.Truth always wins.
@danverfhouston6659Ай бұрын
She lits to preseve her voice and we ger fans know that so deal with it@@katekleinsteuber7652
@vmm44Ай бұрын
Fil, if artists can no longer sing due to whatever issue, health or otherwise, why don't they just retire? If they make a recovery, then they can return. I don't understand how they can justify continuing to fake sing/perform live and get paid millions.
@violinmkeАй бұрын
Music is their life and they dont want the afterlife past their life's work now sitting by the fire
@mimi-3212Ай бұрын
It is the millions part, maybe.
@lizatsurkan4323Ай бұрын
You are heartless, she has SPS she cannot be singing glove right now
@lizatsurkan4323Ай бұрын
@mimi-3212 I hope you are able to live with yourself after that disgusting comment expecting her to still sing live with SPS
@DarlinAkaDarleneАй бұрын
And yet Celine is apparently letting her fans think she can indeed still sing with her rare disease. I watched her documentary because I have a rare disease although it's different and it's obvious that she cannot still sing like she used to prior to her unfortunate diagnoses. It's a disservice to people who have her disease that she's pretending she's recover whereas they probably haven't. Rare diseases are hell, why lie?
@cttwiiАй бұрын
The 1st section is an early vocal, possibly even the album recording. As shes not nasal in it. Its her old school richer voice