Is Coffee Better than Orange Juice? (Lightning Round with Doctor Mike)

This was the lightning round we had Doctor Mike came on the podcast. Marques and Andrew ask him a bunch of random health questions to get to the truth once and for all.
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[@Bisonman80]

As a fellow physician, I watch these looking for bs answers but Dr. Mike had nothing but good answers. So refreshing because he's not pushing bullshit which is so rare. Be extremely skeptical of "social media doctors" -ER doc

[@BensCoffeeRants]

How does ginseng compare vs coffee / caffeine? I've tested taking a ginseng supplement at the start of the day vs a coffee and found at the end of the day working out I had more energy on Ginseng but It might have just been that I had a worse lunch and dinner maybe with simple carbs on the coffee day which resulted in a carb crash so the results may have been tainted by other factors like that. I forget my diet for both those days as this was a while ago.

[@xy-qy2yg]

I am skeptical of all doctors - iatrogenically harmed patient

[@ProtossHyrdalisk]

@@xy-qy2yg You must have extraordinary anxiety.

[@xy-qy2yg]

@@ProtossHyrdalisk why? I do not, I was just severely mistreated and reacted very badly to medications that were inappropriate to treat my condition but I checked with two doctors, one knowing me all my ñife so I trusted them, then I felt very very sick and like something was wrong with my behaviour and brain and no one took me seriously and they all just kept pushing meds on me which I reacted badly to and alsp never asked for and the last medication I should have never taken because it ruined me immediately but I was confused and my fanily were horrible caretakers and now I have been extremely ill for one year already, bedridden, because of clogged ears. It took 20!!! Doctors of all kinds to fimd one with a tiny bit of empathy to actually ask how I feel and bot just fill in with some totally inappropriate shitty comments how I feel and why. All I wanted was some time off work, a good psychologist and understanding what was going on with me and everyone failed me all within 6 weeks time. So many doctors went against what I asked for and just did not listen, dismissed me, pushed me on meds I did not need and said I did not want, etc. And now I am even more ill and obviously even less taken seriously but medicine handicapped me and no one takes responsibility.

[@isaacsfavgirl]

most real doctors aren’t pushing fake information on the internet, i’m sure no one is taking that risk unless they care more about clout than their career

[@brennanthompson]

Doctor Mike was easily one of my favorite episodes.

[@Lilaclilylavenders2]

Same

[@dhhfjhgtrfhhcggy]

I didn't watch. I decided to watch because of you.

[@brennanthompson]

@@dhhfjhgtrfhhcggy Yooo, W! What did you think of the episode?

[@basil127]

Marques and Dr. Mike really has a nice vibe together

[@sapodilla25]

Dr Mike has a bit less energy here than he shows in his own channel but it's nice to see him just chill and get to the point. I love the fact that he doesn't waste time and doesn't peddle nonsense.

[@thekiddshow]

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[@LoliconsArePedos]

Bro watches Dr kike💀

[@bendover7841]

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[@hestushenchman]

The joke about skeletons not fighting because they don't have the guts was actually kind of funny.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

They might not have the guts for it, but they do have the spine to stand up for themselves.

[@Orangecat-np3xy]

At least skeletons aren’t nervous

[@DanieleCappuccio97]

It would be really appreciated if you guys could make chapters for this kind of videos! Also, Dr. Mike should appear more often in the podcast. He goes straight to the point while citing his sources.

[@julietagreco2799]

I like the fact that that Dr Mike always debunks these myths about health! I liked the questions because they were so specific!

[@theletters9623]

having a caffeine sensitivity makes that 400mg maximum sound absolutely insane. I have one cup of coffee (about 95mg of caffeine, probably less bc I tend to have a ridiculous coffee to milk ratio) and I am completely wired for like twelve hours

[@iCarus_A]

My caffeine tolerance makes 400mg/day about the amount that's optimal for me (to still fall asleep naturally). Last time i tried taking 400mg in one drink I got a terrible headache though

[@ekimcakan3236]

That's completely insane to me, I have an unbelievable caffeine resistance. I regularly drink coffee before i sleep, maybe 3 cups a day. And I don't think I've ever felt the effects of caffeine

[@st4lk3rh03]

i drink a latte and cant sleep for 3 days😭

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

@@ekimcakan3236ahh, another addict :) gotta pump that caffine.

[@Cassius-m5v]

@@HappyBeezerStudios nah bro I’ve heard plenty of folks say that they drink coffee before bed and still sleep well, idk bro I always thought it was a false statement but I can’t judge everyone by my standards. Me personally I can’t have coffee past 12 (past 3 MAX) without restless legs, jittering and over-thinking, while trying to sleep that night

[@gkeller1031]

When Doctor Mike said "maybe you have ADHD and take adderall and forget to drink water"......I felt that.

[@Slothisticated0252]

Hahaha same, autism ADD so I forget to eat and drink lmfao I felt exposed

[@toddbod94]

I need 25 hours of sleep for every 24 hours of day.

[@tylerl4472]

3:32 THANK YOU!!!!!!! All of my energy and motivation is at night and none of it is during the day no matter what time I sleep!!!!!!

[@robertoacj]

8:17 "you're allowed to do it without posting" hard take, Marques. good one!

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

I already go by color. Too dark and I know I didn't have enough water, colorless and I know I drank more than I needed. And I aim for 8 hours sleep. I know that that works well for me. Blue light is interesting. During winter the sun doesn't come up until 9-10 am and goes down as early as 4-5 pm around her.

[@PresCEO]

THIS WAS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO INFORMATIVE, Thank you!

[@Aeleas333]

Yeah... I don't know, I think a lot of people (myself included) get less sleep and water than they need without being able to notice just because we're oblivious. I feel better when I drink more water and get more sleep, but I don't usually notice when I don't.

[@jaziliynn]

There's a difference between getting the adequate amount and the recommended amount. It's fine to get that amount, but it's more beneficial to aim for the more he recommended

[@rexarsenio9447]

I mean he said what you should look out for. If you're tired when you woke up, that means you're getting less sleep that you need. If your pee is dark yellow, you need more water. Anything other than that and you're definitely fine. I feel like you're just getting health anxiety because you think you're oblivious to these things. The body has a way of telling you what you need and like Dr. Mike said, it's individual needs. Don't worry too much about it.

[@rianneangevare8407]

Mike really took the lightning out of lightning round

[@KxNOxUTA]

I think I need an online full course by Dr. Mike how to be a good doctor that I can gift to the one or other one around me. They are getting a bunch of things right, but that understanding of patient perspective, that communication skill of how to ask questions and figure out the intentions behind ppl's health questions but also therapy preferences ... there's so much. I love how he handles thes things and is getting comfortabe in promoting the uncomfortable truth of "shortcuts tend to be a scam" while NOT spreading the hopless "work hard" attitude. He's actually capable of teaching us where to give ourselves some slack, what affects us how and figuring out what pathway HAS a chnce to work for us! I also love the ADHD inclusion! Cause yep, my phone helps me with things that I thankfully allowed myself to give up on traning, cause my brain priorities are what they are and not what is expected of me X'D And it's so freeing to work with my needs instead of trying to work myself into tiny boxes I don't belong into. I'm good at other things instead and practice my "muscles" there!

[@luqcrusher]

I love how careful and nuanced Dr Mike is. Really shows how much attention he puts into sharing his takes.

[@christianbearden28]

They tell us at the railroad to watch our urine for hydration. Also, I use to sleep normally but I was tired. I found out I had thyroid cancer. I still felt tired after it was gone. I found out I was vitamin D deficient because of my former melanoma cancer. I did a sleep study and I stop breathing on average 96.5 times per hour. I’m on a CPAP and I feel better now.

[@ariansamnejad]

I'd love to see more videos like this with doctor Mike !

[@bencrystalofficial]

This was way better than I thought it would be!

[@arpitachopra27]

WE NEED MORE DOCTOR MIKE

[@Lavenderrose73]

When I was a child, I remember reading the joke, "Why didn't the skeleton cross the road?" And had the same answer. 😆

[@hastyscorpion]

I don’t agree with that last one. It’s way easier not to use TikTok if it’s not on your phone and there is some friction to getting it. Just like it’s way easier not to eat Oreos when they aren’t in your house.

[@Kyla94934]

If i sleep in on the weekends then my monday mornings are HORRIBLE. But people dont understand when i still want to go to bed early even though I dont "have" to get up the next day. My while life is happier when i keep it consistent

[@wanaswapersleymilimo]

Me turning on eye-comfort at 4:25am to surmon my melatonin

[@jnee]

Marques! I have plantar fasciitis too, have seen professionals about it - custom moulded insoles to support arches during the day is recommended but do morning exercises to strengthen those arches as well.

[@JustinWillhoit]

12:32 me taking a sip of my Red Bull while he says this 👀👀👀

[@esaef91]

8:45 i have told so many friends... I have studied physical therapy years ago but i am not having a job as one. Some friends had health specialists who recommended them. Edit: awesome you invited Dr. Mike.

[@gmcubed]

on the topic of posture, Its funny, I have the worst posture, but I have zero back problems so far at 35. I wonder if my seemingly horrible posture is just what works for me.

[@prestapost]

I don’t know about the ‘millions of years’ argument about water… the problem most of us have is there are plenty of sodas and other non-natural drinks that most of us tend to want to grab when we are thirsty.

[@michaelchen2718]

6:36 good point.

[@lindsay22xx]

Me 1day without coffee is me getting a headache😅 nahhh i’m not quiting coffee for a few days thats not worth it😂😂

[@katiefederotta7506]

That Superman curl though… 😍

[@jshooper7819]

I can't remember ever getting 7 - 9 hours of sleep.

[@itonyhowlett]

not a flex man, take care of yourself.

[@charliemarren8724]

If it’s something you’re wanting to improve maybe look into a sleep clinic or talk to your GP!

[@Bmontepeque11]

I'm not even a Doctor, and as soon as I heard "Is a social media detox good?" I immediately yelled: "YES." I have been in my house for pretty much EVERY SINGLE DAY since March 14th 2020 when my university closed and sent us home, we haven't returned yet. And LET ME TELL YOU SOCIAL MEDIA IS HARMFUL. Your mental health, your physical health, your strain, it's terrible man 😖 I became adicted to my phone in 2020 and have been slowly getting off of it, and yeah, your life will improve once you leave social media behind! 🙌🏻

[@ponderingfox]

Why DO skeletons fight each other? They have a bone to pick.

[@victorrios5642]

I don’t think people realize how bad processed sugar actually is for your long term health 😅

[@danielclv97]

Like Dr Mike said, how much? 1g of "processed sugar" is bad for your long term health? 10 grams? 1kg a day? It's just sugar, it won't do anything bad to your body in moderation. Sugar itself it's not bad for your health, but if you get obese because you eat too much, sugar will be a part of why you're eating too many calories. Also, if you don't eat the nutrients your body need because you're getting full with deserts, yes, it will have a long term affect. But sugar by itself, processed or not, it's just a rather simple substance, that our body can break down into glucose, used to generate ATP, that's it.

[@timewalker38]

​@@danielclv97actually our bodies don't need processed sugar because the amount of sugar we get from our normal diet is already enough

[@leonro]

What do you mean "processed"? There's no meaningful difference between sugars. Of course, avoid it if you're diabetic or something, but otherwise it's safe to consume if you have a decent diet.

[@danielclv97]

@@timewalker38 as I said, "processed or not".and I didn't said our body NEEDS it, I said our body CAN USE it.

[@BrockDButler]

I have to say is as you start to discuss digital wellbeing KZbin throws up the you should take a break feature 😂. 14:25

[@PME16]

I thought im drinking a lot of coffee.Western countries are fucked with Starbucks, 400 mg in one coffee jeez. I drink 2-3 normal ones with 100mg each and thats actually a lot for me.

[@michaelchen2718]

6:12 LMAO

[@justinsanity501]

I take issue with the blue light thing anecdotally. I used to get really bad eye strain at night with screens. My whole day and night is looking at screens. After blue light filters came out (for prescription lenses) I noticed a reduction in eye strain at night immediately and never went back. Went from watery tired eyes at night to no issues whatsoever.

[@dragonofmordor]

They focused on the blue light glasses, but how about the apps for computers and phones? You can actually set those to block more or less blue light depending on what your needs are.

[@DerNesor]

7:55 that is what bothered me about Huberman and especially the AG1 adds. Huberman is careful to never promise specific effects, he just says: it will you these nutrients and increases this or that. But the effects of these are never discussed

[@aight365]

Also depends how much sugar you put in your coffee!

[@bradyw40]

Great episode

[@michaelchen2718]

9:33 wow flex

[@kelliskreations8887]

If we used to have a tail why hasn’t the tail bone gone away lol

[@emkstr]

Honestly, my consumption with those marked water bottles are what helps me achieve the right color 🤷🏻‍♀️ If I’m not keeping up with the tick marks, I’m not in the right zone.

[@michaelchen2718]

15:10 agreed

[@hollyrosegrant4410]

I love Doctor Mike!!

[@bethiciaprasek1008]

When at work I drink 12-16 ounces per hour of water. Not so much for the water but so I have to get up from my computer (to pee) as otherwise I will stay so focused on work that my muscles will hurt and cramp due to my being so focused on getting things done.

[@michaelchen2718]

3:50 interesting theory!

[@_RedWizard]

Some quick fixes do exist. Took about 5 minutes for my LASIK surgery, for example.

[@doremeow2348]

Quick=more money KZbin clickbaits: quick easy and cheap!!

[@joeldiaz141]

I dont know how much water you should drink. You should get at least 6 hours straight of sleep. coffee is not better than juice.

[@i_Groomer_Dr.E]

The skeleton joke 😅😅😅😅😅 Ah ah ah ah ah ah 🏌️‍♂️🤸‍♂️🏌️‍♀️🤸‍♀️🏌️‍♂️🤸‍♂️🏌️‍♀️🤸‍♀️

[@chandlercruttenden6775]

What they don't tell you about caffeine is the blood vessel constriction

[@bllacksalt]

Doctor Mike spoke about this in his videos.

[@thesacredgempath]

We need to talk about creamer instead of coffee

[@Daymickey]

Oh snap I drink multiple cups of espresso a day 😅. I gotta cut down

[@michaelchen2718]

1:28 I thought ideal urine should be crystal clear.

[@bodega0]

Its possible to over drink water

[@abelchavez2463]

Not necessarily, for example most dogs only drink water and their urine is still yellow. So the correlation that only drinking water leads to the "beneficial" white urine is not supported by nature.

[@deminiumgorhlkajaahl4765]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Dr Mike, you finally mentioned Matthew Walker and his book!!!!😍😍🤩🤩💞💕

[@lydiamillanar6230]

I like watching your videos doctor mike♥️♥️♥️💋

[@lydiamillanar6230]

@DoctorMike177 ur welcome ♥️

[@lydiamillanar6230]

@DoctorMike177 from philippines since 2 years ago♥️

[@lutjenlee]

genuinely gave a thumbs up for the jokes

[@diwashdahal9783]

thanks for reminding me to drink water

[@tiantan8286]

On vacation, but first thing to do when I get home is to throw my posture strap away

[@izakshuvo8434]

Yeah my allergy medication or maybe my allergies itself does things that basically ends up me not remembering to drink and then forcefully vomiting which on an empty stomach sheesh man.

[@Xamerax]

If i don’t have a water bottle my pee always turn dark yellow. I can go the whole day without drinking. I almost constantly feel thirsty/drink if i have a bottle. ADD no meds tho

[@spaceangel6945]

Here's a question; I thought of it when the topic of what we can sell to make money verses helping people live better lives was hinted at. Where are the classes of what to do when reason gets run over by the irrational?

[@KxNOxUTA]

Meditation is lierally that! And can actually be considered first line training for everything emotional-mental, cause IF you can get proper guidance on what meditations work for you and which do what, then it's the key to train your brain to be present and observe what's going on without having to react to it. You decrease the times you get "run over", you get better at kindly processing the times when you did get "run over". You learn to be attetive to the early signals of your impulsivity and can intervene before it gets the best of you. You can learn to recognize triggers to emotions (which all behaviourss stem from) which often lie far underneath surface emotions and behaviours. You can learn how to recognize your bhaviour pattern nd when you learned, that that's the response to that situaton and gain more flexibility in relearning a new route, which quite literally reprogramms the brain pathways. It's a fantastic key that is no shortcut LOL. It's a long term multi-purpose-tool that needs custom fitting, cause e.g. ADHD brained me will need a very different approach to a neurotypical person!

[@vikrantsingh4257]

Hey mkbhd can you make full diet plan which everyone can follow and what tips are required to achieve good health when you have 8 hours of desk jobs?

[@Spotto26]

Here after listening to the audio and Dr Mike looks nothing like he sounds lol

[@yannpoco]

He looks better right 😂

[@madabbafan]

Cold plunges - no thanks. Being cold forma short time fine, being wet I can cope with but being cold and wet - hell to the no.

[@Unexpectedstuff]

Full episode in a short link is really annoying. And if you use that for analytics - it’s not good idea either: I watched this video on mobile KZbin app - then clicked on the link which opened embedded browser in KZbin app - then I opened the page in safari since it has “open in app” button thingy - then I open it in the app.

[@timsvensson6530]

Do they label starbucks as "coffee"?

[@Jabberwockybird]

That's both sugar and (maybe) caffine. Where are the black loving bros at? I need some strong independent coffee

[@lisamessenger3713]

Having fibromyalgia makes getting to sleep difficult, staying asleep difficult, and getting deep enough sleep near impossible. Then there's the severe fatigue. Sometimes my body interprets the fatigue as sleep deprivation and forces a nap.

[@christianbearden28]

A cold plunge isn’t a quick fix. It should be done everyday. There are documented benefits of if.

[@sotirismaragos]

Plantar fascia is not a muscle but "supports" for the plantar fascia are obviously also support for the arches, which is what he was referring to🙄

[@Repaurcas]

'end it now' story of my life

[@diramydira8640]

I like watching your videos doctor Mike 🤍🤍🤍🥂

[@TheSakuraGumiLTD]

40,000 gallons 96 hours At what? You're welcome

[@4partmedia]

11:28 "Basically soda" 🤦‍♂️ gtfo, son 😂😂😂😂

[@onioneater69]

It's true, juices have all the sugar of fruit with none of the fibers to slow down the break down of the sugars. A cup of orange juice is 21g of sugar while a cup of Red Bull or Coca-Cola is only 5 grams more at 26 grams. They are both unhealthy, the only difference is one is carbonated.

[@abelchavez2463]

I mean it's artificial sugar that one drinks a ton of, especially in the US

[@truthbetold8233]

@@abelchavez2463 Which is better, at least in the context of being lower calorie

[@tim3line]

Sometimes when Dr. Mike makes a video it doesn't feel like I'm hearing a doctor, but a KZbinr performing. I'm sure he's trying to be as genuine and accurate as possible, but the KZbinr persona hinders it (not just him, plenty others sound disingenuous on YT too). These podcasts help because he really sounds like a doctor here even in his subtle movements. I guess to reiterate I'm not surprised he puts on a certain attitude for his vids, it's just the way this site is. I just personally wish KZbinrs didn't all talk a similar way on their vids.

[@zucchinigreen]

You mean how he is as an interviewee vs a host is different? Brilliant observation lol

[@nieder-olm]

Disagree with not taking sleep. I was convinced I get 7 1/2hrs sleep. Realized it’s on average 6 ½hrs when I started tracking. Also, I’m ‘always tired’ so listening to your body doesn’t always work.

[@tabathacarruthers5122]

There are people who work night shifts

[@Jabberwockybird]

What does he mean by "supplements"? Like, I hope he isn't talking about taking vitamin suppliments if your diet is not very varied

[@abelchavez2463]

In conclusion everyone's nature is different.

[@poro3246]

Wow the microscope joke blew my mind. Associating Mike with microscope is a small leap, but I get it. But why would there always be a microscope nearby? And why the hell would people have a problem with that so much that they don't like Mike for it... I guess humans are still too dumb to understand AI jokes and we have to train our sense of humor.

[@Luckchnc]

As a doctor you should educate people on drinking more water, and not just drink when you’re thirsty. I drank when I was thirsty and now I have kidney stones.

[@shepshape2585]

I can't believe Marques brought up his horrific, overpriced shoes. $200 for a pair of shoes that would be a deal if they were like $50, maybe less.

[@SuperPerfectMan]

You can’t just KNOW what kind of quality sleep you get even if your doing 7-9 hours

[@thecroc]

One major thing for posture is to avoid sitting. Get a stand up desk and spend some of the work day standing. Yeas ago I worked in a call center and I would stand with my back against the wall shoulders pushed back just to get out of tye "hunched over goblin" posture I often end up in at the computer. The other thing to do is work out your back. When back muscles get strongernthey tend to automatically improve your posture.

[@ivanval21jet]

Bro said “nothing cheap or on your own can help you. Pay me and buy meds”

[@puneet7768]

What should do as a guy who has adhd? I always thought cold plunging would increase dopamine and help me in execution of my daily tasks

[@robertcarolinar]

Me parece un poco vende humo lo que dice jajaj, igual lo respeto. 😅

[@coryc4176]

Love the pod. But there was no explanation to why cold water is bad or a quick fix. Bash it if it’s too uncomfortable for you, but you can’t argue there isn’t at least mental benefits and feels great after

[@abelchavez2463]

It's a quick fix because many ppl who advertise it say that your mental state will be better or muscles will be stronger, when the reality is that cold water dunking is irrelevant to the fact that if one works out or generally has healthy hobbies they will also see those benefits. Cold water dunking does not lead to unique benefits. Although that doesn't change that ppl like doing it and are happy when they do, happiness with your hobby is good.

[@fountainjosiah8487]

Yuval Noah Harari

[@Vedrajrm]

Sapiens is not a great book It’s just meh

[@leilasadeh2629]

The thief, the fraudster, who does not know God, will soon take away my right from you The slimmest doctor Mean

[@wabbeldickwurst8253]

The blue light from screens thing has been all but debunked. Night-mode filters on electronics are useless because it’s not the blue light from your screen that’s bad for sleep, it’s staring at your screen at bedtime.

[@sidsid6380]

He is a nice guy, but he would be my first choice for medical advice

[@pessimisticdiabetic717]

Coffee, no question...

[@Bananabear20]

Lol coffee actually has evidence backed benefits for your brain, energy and some diseases. Juice is just sugar-which you don’t need unless it’s the only source or you’re planning to run a marathon