Is Company of Heroes 3 Worth It? A comprehensive review

Is Company of Heroes 3 worth it in 2024? This video provides an in depth look at the gameplay to help you make an informed decision.
If you enjoy RTS games focused on World War 2 or grand strategy games with less depth than Hearts of Iron 4 it's worth a closer look at Company of Heroes 3.
The game has received significant visual, audio and gameplay overhauls over the course of 2023, so please bear that in mind when you look at reviews dated prior to December 2023.
00:00 Introduction
00:28 60 second TLDR
01:28 But isn't the game a total mess?
01:53 The North African Campaign
02:57 Multiplayer Skirmish (differences to CoH2)
07:10 Challenges & In Game Store
07:42 The Turn Based Italian Campaign (For Total War Fans)
11:47 Practical Considerations
11:59 Does it take long to learn?
12:26 Do I have time to play it?
12:47 Can I play with friends?
12:57 Will I still be playing it in a year?
13:22 DLCs and MODS
14:05 Should I wait for a sale?
14:27 Who is Company of Heroes 3 right for?
14:28 If you enjoy Gates of Hell Ostfront or Men of War Assault Squad 2
14:47 If you enjoyed Company of Heroes 1's campaign
15:00 If you enjoyed Company of Heroes 2's skirmish
15:17 If you enjoy Total War / grand strategy titles
#companyofheroes #companyofheroes3

[@twiglets2]

I was full of negativity when I started playing this game. But slowly realised there are both highs and lows. The North African campaign was fun, but short. The Skirmish was meh, but the "Total War style" Italian campaign was genuinely fun! And the visuals are so much better than they were. Got questions you want answering? Ask. Got an opinion on this game already? Share!

[@TomKuen_]

Well this is a tough one. I've been playing COH2 for about 1000h now for the last 6 years or so. When u come from that game or even COH1 this game feels like the COD of shooters. Arcadey. The sounds may have improved but feedback from hitting enemy units feels lackluster compared to the old titles. For me the biggest red flag was the implementation of the in game store (and with that spending real money). This happened before they fixed major bugs or implemented basic gameplay mechanics (mostly for skirmish). The shop by itself is a joke. The skins u can get there are a joke. U have to buy each skin for almost every Unit. Wanna have a green camo on all your troops? Good luck buying 6+ different Skin packs. The new update (over a year after the initial launch) is just weak and only brings 2 new battlegroups which u have to buy or if u are one of the poor people who bought the premium version, get it for free. The game just doesn't provide enough immersion and groundbreaking features. If u are new to the genre u might find it a solid game. But then don't go back to older titles. U will regret it.

[@PubgSpeed-wl8yo]

The 2nd part is much better, it would be better to continue to develop it, I've been watching the 3rd part for a year now and I don't see anything interesting in it.

[@PubgSpeed-wl8yo]

A group of soldiers duplicates movements, it doesn't look right, they should all move in different movements, are they on parade?

[@TomKuen_]

@@PubgSpeed-wl8yo Yeah, but they decided not to. Everyone wished for a third axis faction ever since.

[@PubgSpeed-wl8yo]

@@TomKuen_ Then let them not be surprised that the popularity of this game is dropping.

[@Timrath]

Your 60 second review helped me decide that CoH is not for me. I kept watching till the end anyway, because it's such a good review. I love your matter-of-fact style. You put more information into 16 minutes, than most other reviewers would put in 60 minutes. You have won yourself another subscriber!

[@twiglets2]

@Timrath Thank you! I'm glad it was useful. That's exactly what I aim to do, just throw information at you and hope it helps!

[@gsresener]

same here. solid video, straightforward, no BS and useful content. will be checking other videos

[@twiglets2]

@@gsresener Thank you, and glad it was useful

[@rainbowwolfer]

i spent over 1000 hours on coh2 (most in coop vs ai mode) and what bothers me the most in coh3 is that it does not have difficulty options in coop vs ai mode. It is so boring to fight against "standard ai".

[@twiglets2]

@rainbowwolfer It would be interesting to hear your opinion on the "improvements" in the skirmish mode. Ie the ability to breach buildings, have squads ride on tanks etc. It feels like the mechanics of the skirmish mode is basically the same as CoH2 but with a few improvements that you might expect from a CoH2 update rather than a new game.

[@Homie-cide]

They're in now!

[@stormer454]

I may have an outside mindset but I still feel like COH 1 was just right and its still my favorite. I loved the way the game was designed from buildings, defenses, unit spawns at buildings, etc. I just want more like COH 1 :/

[@twiglets2]

@stormer454 I think that is a less popular opinion, but it's one I share. The cinematic camera angles from CoH1 were so immersive, it's my personal favourite too

[@Chuck_vs._The_Comment_Section]

One of the reasons why CoH I is an RTS evergreen for me is because there are numerous mods for the single player. Mods that not only allow me to play through the campaign again with new units and features, but also add something completely new. Like co-op scenarios or a WWI mod. In contrast, the mods in CoH II only worked in multiplayer. How do things look in this regard in CoH III?

[@twiglets2]

@besogter_Burger I didn't realise CoH1 had those options when it comes to mods, very interesting. So far the mods for CoH3 appear to be community made maps. From what I can tell looking at the Steam Workshop there is very little in terms of the campaign. Though I'm reluctant to judge the quantity / quality of mods for any game that's been out for less than a year too harshly as it usually takes a good few years for any mod scene to find it's feet. Outside of exceptional AAA examples of course. Give the lacklustre North African campaign in CoH3 I wouldn't get your hopes up.

[@brianawilk285]

I was watching ww2 documentary on history channel about the Italian campaign and browsing steam. So I seen that COH3 was free and figured Ill try playing the Italian campaign. Over all game aint bad but wish there was more rts battles in the campaign. I aint that far into the game only 3 hours and I think im gonna buy it before the sale ends.

[@twiglets2]

@brianawilk285 pretty cool that you can try the game for free before deciding whether to buy!

[@johnelliott7850]

I loved the pause-issue-orders feature, but there were other aspects to the game which I found a little irritating. The deal-breaker, however, had to be the 'camera'. I wanted it to be smoother, and I wanted to be able to zoom right in and right out again. Instead it stayed within a very limited 'height' over the map. So now I'm waiting for 'Men Of War 2'.

[@twiglets2]

@johnelliott7850 Ergh the camera is SO BAD! It seems to be a thing with new RTS games where they don't want you to be able to zoom out for some reason. The camera on the Italian campaign map is particularly bad and needs to be addressed. Fortunately there is a mod for the skirmish camera but still...

[@general-thehero182]

Here you have me still playing dawn of war 2 . We need a rts like company of heroes but for warhammer 40k.

[@spambot_gpt7]

I would love Steel Division for 40k

[@twiglets2]

@general-thehero182 If you're still playing DoW2 I think you're doing something right personally...

[@twiglets2]

@@spambot_gpt7 Now THAT would be an awesome crossover.

[@nicholasashton768]

So dawn of war 2?

[@twiglets2]

@@nicholasashton768 sd2 WH40k CoH3 dow 2 mash up please

[@Captain_Mckeggor]

I appreciate the fact you frequently mentioned the Total War aspects and the adults with family responsibilities perspectives in your review. This really helped inform my decision. Although the turn based campaign sounds very interesting I don't feel it's enough to warrant a purchase from me.

[@twiglets2]

@Captain_Mckeggor I'm glad to hear it was useful. Alas the game is just too expensive, even though the Italian Campaign is enjoyable, it's not enough on its own to justify the price!

[@kumarsalib722]

I want to love this, but I can't get over the unfinished experience I had when the game first released.

[@twiglets2]

@kumarsalib722 I get that. It's difficult as it seems normal for games to be released half baked as long as they eventually fix it. But that's no good if you pay full price day one! Something needs to change

[@Gabbagool86]

I've played this game's campaign (expert expert) Apart from the skirmishes being more difficult, The defense missions actually triggering and actually having a use for air recon on the main campaign map i don't think enough of a change was made to make the mode anything less than a curiosity. I went back and played COH1 campaign and there isn't a single mission in the Italian campaign that comes remotely close to the ebb and flow of Hill 192 (even the build up to it in the beginning cinematic is like something from a horror movie) Two also had stand out missions like Hunting the Tiger. The overall presentation is still and will probably remain incredibly lacking. Points for trying to polish the game i guess but then i take those points away because of the dlc and it's woeful value for money.

[@twiglets2]

@Gabbagool86 Thanks for sharing in such detail. I think something CoH3 lacks throughout all three components of the game is story. CoH1 had such a great campaign, (personally I thought CoH2's was terrible) and that Hill 192 mission is EXACTLY what I'm thinking of when comparing them. Releasing CoH3 in such a terrible state is unforgiveable of course, and not something to be encouraged, but I do think the game has something to offer those who enjoy (not so) grand strategy or a PVP skirmish experience. I really don't see the point of the paid for DLC if you can quite easily obtain the two new battlegroups through in game challenges and currency. Some very strange decisions have been made! Thanks again.

[@Gabbagool86]

@@twiglets2 It's not so much the battle groups that stick in my craw as it is the Air and Sea single player edition. It's obvious it was there from the beginning but then to lock behind a pay wall is i have no words but then i remember it's Sega and so i bought Liberation instead ha. The value for money between dlc's is like night and day and the price is almost the same between them. Crazy to think.

[@Minoseth]

So! The perfect review for me right here! The 60 seconds review was really nice, so nice in fact, that I decided to watch the whole clip! Thank you, you won a subscriber because of this.

[@twiglets2]

@Minoseth Thank you! I hope it was useful

[@Jurian81]

So nice to be recognized as a niche player group. The ones with adult responsibilities. ;)

[@twiglets2]

@Jurian81 Absolutely! I don't think there are many of us

[@Derp_Skilz]

@@twiglets2 I think in RTS games there are a lot of us tbh;)

[@zlobaplays]

I've played them all for many many years. CoH 1&2, all the MoW games, Sudden Strike, Blitzkrieg, Steel Division you name it. After playing the Alpha version of CoH3, i was really dissapointed. Currently i'm hooked to GoH and was just wondering, in what state is CoH3 now and if it got better in any way. Your video couldn't pop up at a better time. Thank you!

[@twiglets2]

@ziobaplays you're welcome! I played the Alpha too and it is much MUCH better, so it's no longer an embarrassment. Is it right for you? That's the question!

[@zlobaplays]

@@twiglets2 24 EUR was a good price IMO. Installing 😉

[@twiglets2]

@@zlobaplays is it on sale now?!

[@zlobaplays]

@@twiglets2 kind of .. on eneba

[@ghostjager8190]

GoH is amazing. Been playing it since Early Access and I've always been happy with it

[@a.bridges]

A great review, as always. Thank you very much, sir!

[@twiglets2]

@a.bridges thank you sir! What are you playing at the moment??

[@a.bridges]

@@twiglets2 I'm playing X3, Ostranauts and Kenshi. Loving them so far. Looking forward to start X4. Good day sir!

[@Theover4000]

I started playing CoH 2 about a week after the teaser for CoH 3 came out, as I saw it in a KZbin ad and went "man that looks cool but I wanna try CoH 2 before I try CoH 3". I enjoy CoH 2 and I want to try CoH 3, but I've heard so many bad things, but haven't heard much in a while, so I decided that I'll look for a new review of the game, to see if I truly am missing out, or if my preconceived notions were correct, and that I should steer clear of the current state-of-the-game. (Written before watching, by the way. Will reply with a comment with my personal thoughts afterwards.)

[@Theover4000]

Having watched, I don't think I'll be buying CoH3, it's not as much of an improvement as I'd like, and I've already got a handful of friends who exclusively play CoH2 with.

[@twiglets2]

@Theover4000 I hope you found the video useful. CoH3 is a lot of money for the amount of content so I don't see a reason for a player who enjoys CoH2 for fork out this kind of money on CoH3 too. The Italian campaign is genuinely fun, but not enough on its own to justify the price, and that's not everyone's cup of tea anyway! Enjoy CoH2 my friend

[@Theover4000]

@@twiglets2 thank you! I will.

[@Maxrodon]

I'm a CoH1 and CoH2 "Vet" and loved your review as I haven't played the game and never tried it based on the bad reviews following it's launch. It may sound like a silly question but apart from polishing up the graphics, would you personally say it's improved so much since launch that it's worth it now? And how do you think it compares to CoH1 and CoH2? Would it be as enjoyable or still enjoyable but a very different experience?

[@twiglets2]

@Maxrodon Firstly I'd say it isn't worth full price. It's just too expensive. But in a sale with at least a 33% discount it MIGHT be worth it, depending on which part of the game you would enjoy. If you enjoyed the campaign of CoH1, the North African campaign in CoH3 simply isn't as good. Not worth it for that alone. If you enjoyed the skirmish mode of CoH2, the skirmish mode of CoH3 is decent. Is it better? That depends on how you feel about the changes I highlighted in the video (Battlegroups, breaching etc) If you find those appealing then it MIGHT just be worth it in the sale, but it doesn't feel like a "10 years later" upgrade over CoH2. If you enjoy turn based campaigns such as in the Total War series and other grand strategy games then the Italian campaign is ironically the strongest part of CoH3 (now that it's been updated several times). I genuinely enjoyed it. The graphics do look much better than they did and the sound is also better, all in all they are at the point where you can call them "decent", no more, no less. The building destruction in particular looks cool in my opinion. I hope that helps!

[@Maxrodon]

@@twiglets2 thanks so much! Yeah I actually liked the features you mentioned such as breaching etc. and think it's an upgrade to the franchise. It's the little extra details like how in CoH2 they introduced the feature for vehicles to be abandoned if they take certain types of damage. I'm also a big Totalwar fan so I think I will enjoy that aspect too. Overall based on what you said, I will definately give it a go when next it's on sale and can't wait. I just wanted to thank you for making this video and for your insights. P.S. I've subbed ;)

[@twiglets2]

@@Maxrodon You're welcome, I'm glad it was useful! When you do end up grabbing the game on sale and give it a go feel free to come back and let us know your thoughts! I'm hoping this video will be helpful / relevant for the next year or so at least.

[@songokucarot1668]

I saw it at GameStop today, it was the deluxe edition for console and I’m a very casual gamer and I will probably never play online but I’m having a ton of fun, units are fun, I started a bit of campaigns and I really like the mechanics but it looks like there’s only 2 campaign which makes me kinda sad because I was hoping to see some Berlin or maybe some Soviet Union gameplay but it doesn’t seem like there’s any of that

[@twiglets2]

@songokucarot1668 unfortunately those things aren't in the game yet. Glad to hear you're enjoying it though!

[@brumby92]

Thoroughly enjoyed this video mate. Just what i was after. Still on the fence, but im happy its at a good state. Now to watch SB2, since the comments love that One

[@twiglets2]

@brumby92 thank you! I'm glad it was useful

[@brianawilk285]

I haven't needed the pause function yet but I havent had mission with a lot of units.

[@F1nnF1x]

Can someone tell me when console players get 1st DLC ?? We still have 1.1.6 patch we are soooo far behind ...😢

[@jandamz1119]

Genuinely though, as someone who bought the game on launch, it's not worth at full price but pretty good when on discount and if you like skirmishes against AI and decent singleplayer content. This is mostly due to performance and what you get from it. CoH2 is absolutely unoptimized that it's a known thing to always close the game after a couple of matches or so because of memory leak, and it's also well known how the moving backgrounds lag the menus a lot to the point there's a guide to remove the backgrounds which most of the community does. In regards to content, over here, CoH2 with all the major DLCs with no discount (Western Front Armies, British Forces, Ardennes Assault) actually costs more than base CoH3 so far. This does not include the commander DLCs or the remaining Theater of War operations which would further make CoH2 cost more for the full game. Hence why I say CoH3 is pretty good for what it offers in terms of singleplayer content when on discount, similar to how CoH2 is better when you have all DLCs and preferably bought it via a bundled discount. If you don't own CoH2, then CoH3 is a pretty good choice in that regard; CoH1 is also a good option but personally only for the story and not the gameplay much as it's a bit dated (not to mention the AI has stronger cheats compared to 2 and 3) but hey it's also cheaper in price due to price drops so trying that one out is also a good choice. As for Men of War and Call to Arms players, if you like those games and prefer those, then CoH as a series would be something you won't play much in the end unless they full on transition into that genre. Similarly, I wouldn't expect someone who prefers Wargame or Steel Division to play games in the MoW series or even Hearts of Iron frequently. Of course, you can have multiple preferences so I am saying this in terms of "sticking to one genre" kind of preference.

[@twiglets2]

@jandamz1119 What a great summary, thanks for sharing

[@84Plato]

I played at launch, and it was ok but I seriously can’t get over playing as a Yatzhee. Especially against Commonwealth Forces

[@werewolf1336]

What's a Yatzhee?

[@Garner2554]

@@werewolf1336I assume they’re using a euphemism for the ruling political party in Germany of the time. Think about what it rhymes with.

[@graeme1094]

It’s a great fun game. I find the menus a little clunky and awkward, got there in the end. Itas others have said if you don’t have the time to spend hours and hours playing games the easy option to pick up and put down as responsibilities come knocking. I’ve never used tactical pause. The Italian campaign has got me hooked and desperate to go and put another couple of hours into it. I agree with the cartoon like aesthetic comment, not especially gritty or realistic. Fantastic game!

[@twiglets2]

@graeme1094 glad to hear you're enjoying it! I would like them to expand the Italian campaign to different areas, like DDay etc, but I suspect they would want to charge too much money for that!

[@jonathanamsberry3971]

Amazing review! I personally chose not to get the game. I am curious if the capture point system that COH uses is still for mass market? There seem to be multiple games that use this system and none seem to sell well. I wonder if it’s due for a rework or change.

[@twiglets2]

@jonathanamsberry3971 that's an interesting point. Perhaps CoH3 was their opportunity to revisit the objectives in the core Skirmish experience to distinguish it from CoH2. A big risk of course, but its not like copy and paste has worked well either!

[@BenFoster-cx4em]

a majority of casual rts enjoyers like to turtle. can't do that with the point capture system.

[@twiglets2]

@@BenFoster-cx4em I can confirm turtling is my preference, always has been

[@BenFoster-cx4em]

turtling is a chill good time@@twiglets2

[@UnknovvnMike]

​@@twiglets2Brits in CoH1 were the masters of the turtle

[@nomelet5441]

I'm surprised we haven't had a Pacific campaign yet

[@twiglets2]

@nomelet5441 they probably had one planned and delayed it to actually fix the game

[@scorpiontdalpha9799]

Probably bc: 1. Devs hate making allies stronger than Axis 2. The moment a Sherman is produced, the Japanese will lose

[@Valshiirs]

Since I am not a fan of 4x, the campaign map is a complete miss for me. I'd like to play the actual missions, but I don't want to bother with a turn based stuff in a COH game.

[@twiglets2]

@Valshiirs it's a shame the missions aren't as good as they should be. I'll just have to stick with CoH1

[@redjacc7581]

the features in the italian campaign look good though, but again this type of campaign is something they SHOULD have done for CoH2 which is annoying that they didnt.

[@twiglets2]

@redjacc7581 absolutely! The Italian campaign is easily the most impressive part of the game but I suspect is of no interest to your average CoH player. And those players it would be of interest to probably don't even know it exists! They actually reduced the amount of skirmishes in the turn based campaign, probably for good reason, but it further alienated those CoH2 players who were willing to give it a chance.

[@jlema27]

can I play m&k on this on a ps5?

[@ryansmith1115]

They need to redo the North Africa campaign to be longer. Start in 1940. Do more long range desert group and SAS missions

[@twiglets2]

@ryansmith1115 absolutely, I was expecting there to be a whole second half where you play as the British but nope, it just ended! I'd like to see them extend the turn based campaign beyond Italy, it could work well pretty much anywhere !

[@peacemen6460]

I wouldnt mind pay dlc for coh2 to have the QOL of coh3 like towing,tank transport and rubble covers. Coh3 theme is not for me.

[@twiglets2]

@peacemen6460 Yes the changes of CoH3 are minor QOL and would feel more like a CoH2 DLC. It is strange they didn't make bigger changes to make CoH3 worth it's full price tag.

[@podcrack390]

Im still stuck playing COH 1 blitzkrieg mod

[@twiglets2]

@podcrack390 stuck? Sounds like heaven

[@jdwohlever]

TLDR: The AI cheats like a mofo. Seriously, they just spam you constantly, have no fog of war and start with more supplies than you and they get supplies faster.

[@twiglets2]

@jdwohlever Is that the only way the ai scales in difficulty? More resources and ignoring the fog of war? To be fair, I've not found an RTS where the ai is considered GOOD. I'm open to suggestions...

[@akaneyoshinaga425]

the cartoony style and weirdly mobile game looking ui of the menus, really REALLY put me off playing this game and i ended up refunding it before the 2 hours. great review that i wanted to see if i missed something that might bring me back, but i pretty much got the gist

[@twiglets2]

@akaneyoshinaga425 I can almost guarantee the cartoon-y graphics are so they can release it on mobile, such a shame

[@MrSmokincodz]

It’s a great game. The recent patch was really well done. I have over 2000 hours of coh2 and would not go back. Coh3 is superior is so many ways now. Did it have a bad start of course, but not u like its predecessor.

[@twiglets2]

@MrSmokincodz glad to hear the positivity! I'm curious what you would say to a potential player who's concerned about all the negativity? More specifically how it is superior?

[@MrSmokincodz]

@@twiglets2 I understand a lot of the negativity due to the release of the game being rather horrid. I do believe they have put in a lot of work to bring the game up to par. Coh2 was a great game but i remember some of the same negativity around that title as well. I dont think the negativity will ever go away in an industry that is highly scrutinized by its consumers. I really enjoy the pace and performance of coh3 over 2. I think the graphics look crisp and rich in 2k and im sure in 4k they would be incredible as well. Seems to run on a variety of PC builds which is also good. I think the factions are interesting and have a lot to offer as far as tactics and playstyle. Along with that many of the maps are really beautiful and fun to play on. DOes it have flaws, of course but i believe in this day and age of gaming many games are always a work in progress. I hope that helps a little on my thoughts. Granted this is just my thoughts and everyone is different. In the end though, the game right now, does not deserve the toxic negative attitude it has been bestowed. Cheers

[@Greg-jq1co]

I never bought it, it wasn't for me ill be sticking with second coh. Nice video though, love the review.

[@twiglets2]

@Greg-jq1co Thank you! CoH3 is at best an expensive DLC upgrade for the skirmish mode of CoH2, I think they made a few wrong calls there.

[@Greg-jq1co]

@@twiglets2 Correct it's what happens when you prioritize money over making a good game.

[@roccozocco9630]

Am I having cataract or why is gey the most prevelent color in both the game and the menu?

[@twiglets2]

@roccozocco9630 Not sure... The Italian map is quite colourful!?

[@werewolf1336]

Great video - great review! Ya had me Twiglets - I was sold - right up to the point where a US tank with the TC (tank commander) was shown stuck up through his hatch while driving thru a building with the express purpose of knocking it down. Yeahhhhhh - riiiiight. (having served in the US Army as a tank crewman on M-60A1's in every crew position including TC I absolutely cringed when I watched that. NO efffing way would any TC ever do that while sticking up out of the TC's hatch. Can you say crushed by self created falling rubble. AND that's assuming that any competent TC would ever even do something as stupid as driving thru a building (movie BS) anyway - too much chance of damaging the tank. . Gimme a break. One wonders if game devs ever think about what they create or even invest time in researching what they're creating to verify if it is even feasible. In this case obviously not. This one has to wonder how much other idiotic behavior they programmed in.

[@twiglets2]

@werewolf1336 I'm not going to be able to unsee that now!

[@dnaseb9214]

No, just get Steel Division 2 instead. More of everything. Dont be like me, dont waste money on this game, get DS2 from the start.

[@twiglets2]

@dnaseb9214 You won't hear any disagreement from me about Steel Division 2. What a game!

[@dnaseb9214]

@@twiglets2 I like that SD2 has my country in it, only game so far

[@bamblaster5865]

great review and i agree with most of your point. its just not for me thankfully steam is willing to refund this game even when i reached 3 hours of gameplay the more i play the more i hate the game and a quick view at the workshop and "mods" is extremely limited idk why but atleast over at CA they allows modding and you can open up blender if you want some units they way you want it to be and boom 100 hours gone from just one playthru. I guess overall the game went from bad to bland

[@twiglets2]

@bamblaster5865 Bland is a good word to use. I found the North African campaign particularly bland, not bad as such, it just wasn't very good overall!

[@PonkyKnorr]

They could should have invested in the pacific side of thing. I would like to see Chinese, Japanese as well as the US in the Pacific

[@twiglets2]

@aglassoflife579 absolutely, the turn based campaign would work very well in the Pacific theatre

[@arthursandomine5464]

Thank you for this. And yes the cartoony look is indeed enough to put one off

[@twiglets2]

@arthursandomine5464 A shame really...

[@Aidan.17]

That campaign map is literally mind numbing.

[@DeezeNutsInYoMouf]

We need a ww2 total war if COH aint gonna make a full fledged grand strategy + RTS type gameplay

[@macrotransaction2383]

I bought Call to arms gates of hell while I was waiting for CoH 3. But when CoH3 came out it was so underwhelming that I gave it up for good and stick with CTA

[@twiglets2]

@macrotransaction2383 Do you have the Liberation dlc? I'm interested, but it's a bit pricey...

[@macrotransaction2383]

@@twiglets2To be honest that DLC is just OK. You won’t lose anything if you miss it.

[@wofuljac]

It's on sell with PS5. Is it worth it on console?

[@twiglets2]

@wofuljac I haven't tried on console but I reckon the Italian campaign would work well on console, so it depends if you think you will try that much

[@jacquesjtheripper5922]

Yh im same, so wanting to have a fun game like this, with a mix of strategy layer that affects the situation in the rts part. Just worried to be disappointed with all the bad reviews. The ai, and strategy layer seem to need improvement. And 1.6 update that improves vehicle ai isnt out on console yet. Idk, still 40$cad here on sale, not so cheap if the sp is poor,,and i only play sp. If the skirmish mode vs ai is cool, and varied, then it pculd be worth it more too.

[@wofuljac]

@@jacquesjtheripper5922 Last update was in March for PS5 so I'm worried if it was abandoned.

[@jacquesjtheripper5922]

@wofuljac i doubt its abandoned, the last update 1.4 came out maybe 3 months after pc, so the last big patch 1.6 that came out a month ago in pc will probably be out within a couple of months on console.

[@wofuljac]

@@jacquesjtheripper5922 Bought it and it runs well! Better than Iron Harvest if you played that.

[@patrol2omega]

I'll say yes it is. The main problem are rage quitters leaving the game after 4 minutes because they lost the first skirmish ....

[@Inferno912]

There is no rush for me, gonna wait for sale with 70% lol

[@twiglets2]

@Inferno912 Very sensible, they might have sorted the bugs by then!

[@Inferno912]

I hope they will haha@@twiglets2 I just finished watching your Warno review. Nice. I am not sure if that will be game for me or better to wait for ,,Broken Arrow''

[@twiglets2]

@@Inferno912 That's a tough one, Broken Arrow does look good! I guess if you're not in a rush it's worth waiting but I'll be reviewing Broken Arrow asap too

[@Inferno912]

Hi. Check out Beta starts soon.@@twiglets2

[@loerenzpiep3399]

Loved coh 1. Was not a big fan of coh 2 till 2015. After started to love it. saw the awefull first trailer of coh3...and new. Wrong people in charge. And turned out....i was right.

[@spambot_gpt7]

Cover system is useless. The enemy can just run around you and kill you from behind. Or put a super accurate HE skillshot right behind you. It's skill, not tactics. Like LoL.

[@Andrew-0815]

Can now be played free of charge for three days.

[@twiglets2]

@Andrew-0815 thanks for the heads up!

[@MasterSteve_117]

You didnt speak about the horrible audio and effects/VFX. Why didnt u mention the controversal TTK? Unit Responsiveness? Or the Lack of innovation? Heck its even a downgrade in many other sections. Battles in coh1 and coh2 have more weight, more drama, more immersion which gives u this dopamin kick playing it. coh3 ssimply doesnt do that the same way, which is why i'm sticking with coh2

[@twiglets2]

@MasterSteve_117 I thought the audio and visuals were pretty decent since the latest update personally. I understand it's a divisive game. As I said in the video it depends what you're looking for. It isn't an upgrade on CoH2 from a PVP perspective. I actually think they got the marketing wrong altogether, it should be aimed at Total War players who enjoy the WW2 setting, not CoH1 or CoH2 players. Each to their own.

[@nolifeispower494]

No, no, NO! It's not worth it. Multiplayer game that gets patched once per 3 months? No basic QOL like reconnect (2023 game!!!). Still small amount of content. Unresponsive units. Devs want only your money. "Expansion" - a pack of skins for 17$. Matchmaking that puts top #1 and #2 players on the world against somebody who's just starting. 1000 elo difference matches all the time! CoH3 is failed in every possible way.

[@twiglets2]

@nolifeispower494 will you be sticking with CoH2?

[@nolifeispower494]

@@twiglets2 not at all, put almost 1000 hours into coh 2 and I feel like it's enough. I do play coh 3 regularly but it's quite toxic relationship xD

[@F1nnF1x]

I play on ps5 we stillll have 1.1.6 patch ... 😢 when we get 1st DLC !!!! ????

[@nolifeispower494]

@@F1nnF1x don't call this skin pack a DLC XD not even a single new map. I bet, for the celebration of 1st coh3 anniversary, Relic will anounce end of support like with the Dawn of War 3

[@sarahshaw7315]

@@nolifeispower494CoH EaW is better than the 2nd and 3rd game lol

[@Foxrich99]

Buying CoH3 was the biggest regret i ever made when buying games. The story mode put the soldiers on the sideline completely and the gameplay just felt lazy. Multiplayer is even worse, devs have completely forgotten how to balance things and instead gave us more and more microtransaction. They got a quick buck for this shit load of fuck.

[@twiglets2]

@Foxrich99 Did you give the Italian campaign a try?

[@raven1462]

Stick with Company of Heroes 1 and 2. Still waiting for a Pacific Company of Heroes. We have the Eastern and Western front I want the Pacific theater please.

[@twiglets2]

@raven1462 they're so concerned with balance I wonder if they will ever go to the Pacific theatre

[@raven1462]

@@twiglets2 yeah I think your right.

[@Nuclearpulseengine]

Wow Company of Heroes really hasn’t changed much since the first one

[@twiglets2]

@nuclearpulseengine Haha errrm, it's changed a fair bit! I guess the core is the same. A turn based campaign is a rather big change.

[@Nuclearpulseengine]

@@twiglets2 yes absolutely the campaign map is new, love that, but just watching the RTS gameplay just looked even more like CoH1 than CoH2 did, to me anyway. It’s not even a bad thing, since I loved CoH1, it was my one of my favorite games! Just surprising I guess

[@twiglets2]

@@Nuclearpulseengine yeah absolutely, in fact they made a conscious effort to go back to coh1 in certain aspects. I think they missed a trick with CoH3, it was an opportunity to do something a bit different with the core gameplay, but they decided to tweak it slightly instead!

[@spambot_gpt7]

It's more zoomed in and unrealistic than part 2. Feels more like a game of toy soldiers with arbitrary rules. And it suffers from the casual shooter sickness. Movement is fast. Time to kill is long. So naturally, your WWII experience will be getting swarmed by infantry blobs. No tactics involved, just meta & MOBA-style grenade skills. It's the League of Legends of WWII. If you're into that, go ahead.

[@twiglets2]

@spambot_gpt7 I have nothing against League of Legends in theory, but I wish it wasn't so successful as it seems to effect how any RTS is made nowadays, and not for the better!

[@spambot_gpt7]

@@twiglets2 LoL is cool, but it doesn't match well with WWII settings. You need magic and/or shields to justify the inhuman speed & health. I find it super hard to develop intuition for a game that isn't even consistent in its own own setting.

[@DeeBestoWepon]

The game may look cartoonish but it was never marketed otherwise. I know than for most players who like the WW2 setting (or any military campaign in that matter) the amount of details tied to reality are kinda the main feature of any game considering the scale of the affair, but if you are like me who is more amused from the action and the spectacle of battle rather than the context of it this game just fills the spot. Of course i would also like to find some pathos through the art style,music and narrative like when they tried in COH2 but that brights problems of another kind. In short, COH3 may feels bland in comparison but that may be for the best, to keep the conversation focus on the gameplay. There no excuse for the business decisions though and the gameplay still needs some polish, but right now i find it fun (particularly the 2vs2).

[@twiglets2]

@deebestowepon745 thanks for sharing your view. Do you think there is enough variety in the battle groups?

[@DeeBestoWepon]

In theory, 3 battlegroups per faction should be the bare minimum. In practice, after at least 60 hours with a faction you should know what to expect from each battlegroup in most scenarios. If you have a preference with a certain faction 3 battlegroups are not enough to prolong the interest indefinitely if you only play one gamemode. Yes, battlegroups are different enough to justify their existence but the bigger problem here is the number of maps per gamemode. If you are a fan of 4v4 you are gonna play the same 3 maps all day, this is gonna make you feel the faction lack of deep but doesn't; it just than scenarios for using them tends to repeat. In short, no amount of variety in battlegroups is gonna make the actual number of maps bearable. I would rather prefer be a master of 3 battlegroups in a dozen maps than be a master of a dozen battlegroups in 3 maps. That its of course if you choose to play one faction in one gamemode. (but saddly this is what most COH2 players tends to do). In short short, variety in battle groups is fine, but needs more maps per gamemode. ​@@twiglets2​

[@twiglets2]

@@DeeBestoWepon interesting! Thanks for the information

[@Zack_Wester]

Wild guess is that COH3 was designed for E-sport so bright colors and less grit so that commentator can see what happening. we saw this whit DOW3 trying to be a doda3 E-sport.

[@twiglets2]

@@Zack_Wester 100% I agree that's the most likely explanation. Combined with the fact that they probably want to release the same game on mobile at some point, so keep it nice and simple for less powerful platforms with smaller screens. RTS on console is fine, but I think this type of game was better back in the day partly because it was made for PC alone.

[@chrisberg2]

I think overall CoH 3 was better than CoH2 - CoH2 had weird loot boxes and too many weird small ajustments like get 3% increased accuraccy with HMGs. also the graphic was really bad in CoH2 - artillary looked like gumbullets hitting the ground which was a big downgrade from the realistic looking artillary from CoH1 where you could shape the landscape with the british artillary. For me CoH1 is still the best of them, but CoH3 was still better than CoH2 Only good thing I have to say about CoH2 is being able to play as the russians and that you can break ice with mortars to kill tanks which was a cool feature.

[@twiglets2]

@chrisberg2 I have to agree that CoH1 was the best. I say that speaking as a player who enjoys campaigns more than pvp skirmish. CoH1 had that cinematic Saving Private Ryan experience and was genuinely tense. By comparison the other two games are poor, even though CoH1 was made a billion years ago.

[@chrisberg2]

@@twiglets2 Funny you mention Saving Private Ryan cause I thought the same thing back when I played it a lot - I can't help thinking about Band of Brothers on the second mission, with the Airbourn.

[@twiglets2]

@@chrisberg2 Absolutely, the opening mission on the beach was for me almost a copy & paste of the opening of Saving Private Ryan, and I am in no way complaining.

[@darklysm8345]

Man how could you say that Coh2 looks worse than Coh3? Coh 2 looks way more realistic.

[@chrisberg2]

It is 100% based on my own personal prefrence. I think Coh 2 looks a bit cartoonish/childish not in the same sense that Fortnite does, but still. Also I was so dissapointed with the way artillary looked in CoH2 coming from CoH1 where you could feel the terror from the british artillary destorying the landscape. I feel CoH3 tried to return to the Coh1 roots and got it some what right.@@darklysm8345

[@joshuabekker1804]

Having the side ✡️ family cinematics shoe horned in... to ensure reduced offending and apologetic historical revisionism = no thanks. I'll sail the high seas instead

[@winston6175]

Pirate this game, play the italy campaign. Then buy it when its dirt cheap and has more actual content

[@EON314]

Can I select all units or not?

[@twiglets2]

@EON314 I don't see why not?

[@mr.crowgamer6250]

Your prob better off getting call to arms ossfront

[@twiglets2]

@mr.crowgamer6250 I agree, 90% of gamers will simply prefer it. But I guess ostfront is so detailed and not everyone is looking for that. Can't beat the sound effects in ostfront

[@mr.crowgamer6250]

@@twiglets2 yh I liked the simplicity of coh2 would always use increased population for more units but I always preferred actually controlling single units ect in men of war series

[@luyiwang5030]

As a single player only guy, I would say this is the worst campaign offering of all time. I play CoH campaign for a handcrafted experience not playing skirmish with AI. CoH2 has a shitty narrative but at least the missions are fun to play!

[@twiglets2]

@luyiwang5030 I agree, the North African campaign was such a disappointment. It was far too short. Some of the gameplay was kind of fun but there's literally no emotional connection like there was in CoH1.

[@Napswhilewatchin]

GoH for tank gameplay CoH 1 for Blitzkrieg mod CoH 2 for Anime skins CoH 3?

[@Gabbagool86]

your guys vault over cover that's nice that's something..

[@twiglets2]

@Napswhilewatchin I genuinely enjoyed the Italian turn based campaign I'm CoH3. But most of the audience who might enjoy it don't know it exists! Tank gameplay on GoH is *chefs kiss*

[@zbigniew2628]

​@@twiglets2it's good, that they do not know, coz it is still bugged + not as good as it should. Last updates fixed a lot, but there are still some things to do.

[@twiglets2]

@@zbigniew2628 my biggest complaint was the buggy zooming in and out on the Italian map. That was just embarrassing. Other than that it played well for me, but I didn't play it prior to the latest big update, other than the alpha which was a mess.

[@spambot_gpt7]

Coh3 for a fun campaign if you're a 6 year old League of Legends player.

[@PaulRoneClarke]

I bought it. Wish I hadn’t. It’s not very good compared with other games in the same genre.

[@twiglets2]

@PaulRoneClarke Thanks for sharing your view!

[@Ivo-]

Short: No! And this comes from a guy who loved CoH1 and 2.

[@twiglets2]

@Ivo- I can't say I'm surprised, it's as if they ignored coh1 and 2 players and decided to try and get Total War players interested instead!

[@sirilluminarthevaliant2895]

It’s far better balanced than coh2 anyone who disagrees played nothing but axis

[@twiglets2]

@sirilluminarthevaliant2895 glad to hear something positive about CoH3, mostly negative so far, I quite enjoyed it

[@sirilluminarthevaliant2895]

@@twiglets2 coh2 is heavily biased to the axis. With even weak axis units outperforming Allies and the axis play style literally being hold onto fuel then spam panthers. This is simply not possible in coh3 which depicts allied tanks a lot better and generally has more balanced units. The cover system is a lot better. The company system is better And overall the combat seems more interesting. For a game without 10 years worth of extra content lol

[@twiglets2]

@@sirilluminarthevaliant2895 it's a shame they released it in such a poor state and charged full price. It's turned into a half decent game now, but then the Italian campaign appeals to my taste

[@sirilluminarthevaliant2895]

@@twiglets2 the Mediterranean is a good theater. Before the underwater got too prominent. But it’s frustrating they didn’t make Italy a faction. I suspect they are concerned players wouldn’t pick up the strats of a non tank focused faction. Which means Japan will never come despite the fact factions that don’t rely on tanks too heavily might actually mix the combat up a lot

[@Willem969]

This game has regressed so much from it's predecessor

[@DaDungeonNCR]

How

[@Willem969]

@DaDungeonNCR First and most obvious is the audio. Coh2 sounded so crisp, and weapons had a wonderful "chunk" to them when firing. Next is explosion animations, they just looked so much better along with the vehicle death explosions. Go check it out

[@waschosen-]

German missions are good but Italy missions and the strategy mode are rubbish.

[@twiglets2]

@waschosen- did you enjoy CoH2?

[@pedropauloz.3321]

CoH1's BK mod still better

[@francopereyra6659]

16 GB VRAM for highest settings? I dont get it, the game looks exactly like COH2 with a slightly better lightning The tanks move the same way, the physics of objects are the same...even the texture is just a little bit better, but just by a margin How the hell does this needs 16 GB of VRAM to run...

[@twiglets2]

@francopereyra6659 To clarify you need 16gb of vram to unlock the highest texture quality, though there are ways around it. To be fair the game looks much better than it did, and I've not seen it on that highest texture quality. But with that said, it hardly looks like 10 years of progress since CoH2 graphics!

[@Roeper437]

@@twiglets2 there is not much you can do graphic wise... thats part of the problem why RTS are going downhill or in better words staled out... There is not much to innovate really when u think about it.

[@twiglets2]

@@Roeper437 Interesting point. I've always said that strategy games aren't about good graphics, but they're always nice of course! I think your point is also compounded by the fact that these developers want to release their game on every platform imaginable, including mobile, so are incentivised to keep the graphics "easy" to port over to these less powerful platforms.

[@Roeper437]

@@twiglets2 even mobiles? I know about consoles so it makes sense to have more unified graphics but also we need to take into account that it's fast paced rts where you have to see quick where are your units so there must be visiaual hierarchy so you can easily say whats going on. Did you ever felt in a game lost? Like you dont know where to look? I did few times as the graphics are so photorealistic that everything just "blends" together. Not want to say the game is best in the world but it's a different perspective i Can give as hobby game art designer. Game dev is hard than ever actually and gamers are more hard to please than ever too.

[@twiglets2]

@@Roeper437 Another interest point! I believe the cartoony look in both CoH3 and Age of Empires 4 is down to making units easier to see in the fast RTS environment. At least, I THINK that's what the devs have said it was for. I guess they can't win either way!

[@sarahshaw7315]

Don’t compare CoH3 to men at war for the cover, that’s over stating it. How much did they pay you?

[@twiglets2]

@sarahshaw7315 Feels like a fair comparison to me, although CoH3 falls far short...

[@sarahshaw7315]

@@twiglets2 falls short is an understatement to behold. They’re nothing like eachother. Men at war is a good game.

[@scorpiontdalpha9799]

Not worth it. Spam too OP. Rangers, Jaegers, Guastoris running amok all over the place. L6/40 broken Bunkers too cheap Worse than Coh2

[@rafaelkutby3846]

There are 1-5% of us left playing daily online atm from the 150 k players at launch.. pathing is bad af, balance is meh, tuning updates are bad and overall game favors only constant aggressive players... Dlc rangers are a joke to the franchise, shooting bazookas while running.... Really... They made it in purpose so more people will buy the dlc.... Worse some skins bought on the in-game store are not available, even John relic promised to fix it... This was 10 months ago.... Still not here... Overall the game is fun, but, don't expect a polished experience.... Yes it got better but it's still far from decent... Coh games are not noob friendly as it takes time to build skills, and the feeling of being left alone is quite present..... Relic will probably pull the plug on it in a year at that pace... Who knows...

[@twiglets2]

@rafaelkutby3846 Am I right in assuming that you play the skirmish mode predominantly?

[@rafaelkutby3846]

Ahahaha, short answer no, last time i played a comp stomp was in coh1, to try the game out... I never played the campaign in this franchise neither... I am a multiplayer only guy ​@@twiglets2

[@D3ltus]

are you the "here's with you suck with THIS FACTION" warhammer 3 tw youtuber?

[@twiglets2]

@D3ltus Nope!

[@zioalecpov1815]

Do you want a good WW2 strategy game ? Get Gates of Hell ostfront You want a bigger scale WW2 strategy game? Get steel division 2 You absolutely want a COH ? Get COH 1

[@twiglets2]

@zioalecpov1815 very much THIS! SD2 Deserves more recognition

[@sonnenschein1758]

Second this.

[@trentgt]

Ostfront is simply amazing!

[@twiglets2]

@@trentgt can you recommend any of the DLCs?

[@zbigniew2628]

Both are complety different gameplay design and COH1 lacks a lot of modern features + some balance BS. COH2 has to many stuff locked behind paid stuff or grind, so getting to learn online will be a pain + often boring and strange balance or at least this is what I hear and see in replays. COH3 is best for multiplayer if it is going to grow.

[@user-wx8ph3hf8x]

Comparing this to Total War is an insult to Total war. The "Campaign" is all set in advanced if you play it Twice you will get the Exact experince you had the first time, Enemies don't have any strategy, Your choices make no difference Just a set of missions with the illusion of a grand campaign. This could have been such a great game changer one that will have such a great replayability, But the game developers just didnt give a f**k, Most lazy map making I have ever seen in an RTS only 14 maps for the entire game?! Ohh your going to add 4 maps on DLC's? Wow thanks for nothing. Shambolic of a game, Absolute trash.

[@twiglets2]

@user-wx8ph3hf8x so you wouldn't recommend?

[@user-wx8ph3hf8x]

@@twiglets2 The gameplay itself is still fun, But if you want to get the full experience of COH your better off with COH2 in my opinion.

[@TheMaztercom]

No

[@twiglets2]

@TheMaztercom There you have it!

[@anshuldwivedi1919]

No relic game is good for anyone.... everything that most people want is locked behind paid DLCs..... and they remain so even after decades of the game's release.

[@tonyyu6027]

the cartoon look killed this game for me. what a shame

[@twiglets2]

@tonyyu6027 yup, I think their ambition to release on mobile resulted in too many compromises on the pc version of the game.

[@NahThisIsPatrick]

its not, youre welcome

[@ghostjager8190]

I played CoH 3 playtest or what ever you want to call that.. it was totally disappointing. Ill stick with Gates of Hell, amazing game with a good Dev team.

[@twiglets2]

@ghostjaher8190 The playtest was a mess for sure, but CoH3 has changed a lot since then, so it would be wrong to judge it purely on the playtest. GoH is hands down the better game in my opinion but environmental destruction on CoH3 is a big win compared to Ostfront.

[@AHappyCub]

Played 2 of its Beta, absolute garbage, CoH1 is unironically better than CoH3, the only improvement CoH3 brings to the series is the breaching mechanic

[@twiglets2]

@AHappyCub I did enjoy the breach mechanic, but then again it's a bit slow. All in all it feels like they weren't brave enough to make big changes to the CoH2 skirmish mode, but introduced a half decent turn based grand strategy that the target audience doesn't know exists.

[@mattkramer7137]

This game aesthetically looks ugly compared to CoH 1. I cannot play it knowing the first game exists, even with the horrible AI pathing from 2005.

[@twiglets2]

@mattkramer7137 I don't mind CoH3 but CoH1 will always be my favourite

[@H-TownGamer713]

Thanks for the review. This game is a hard pass for me

[@twiglets2]

@H-TownGamer713 Glad I could help you decide!

[@leavingglobe4442]

I will stick to CoH2

[@twiglets2]

@leavingglobe4442 A wise decision

[@14Trenlover]

Men of wars/Call to arms is 100x better

[@twiglets2]

@14Trenlover Agreed, though which of those two is better is an interesting question!

[@AGripOBabys]

no. *no* in bold.

[@twiglets2]

@AGripOBabys You know it's serious when it's in bold!

[@whsky101]

No no no. The game is still a disaster.

[@twiglets2]

@whsky101 The Italian Campaign is genuinely fun, but is too small on it's own and doesn't appeal to CoH2 players so all in all, a bit of a disaster in terms of trying to appeal to everyone and appealing to none.

[@morbihan9857]

I hate the bullshit commanders from COH2, coh1 was superb but they had to "fix it"...

[@twiglets2]

@morbihan9857 CoH1 is my personal favourite!

[@user-vg1vj3yv4u]

Garbage game & a slap too the face , waste of money

[@arubaluba9955]

Watched until the sixth minute, learnt nothing. Sorry but terrible video

[@redjacc7581]

it looks worse than CoH2...............vehicles dont look very well proportioned either.

[@twiglets2]

@redjacc7581 it's definitely cartoon-y and out of proportion in a similar way to age of empires 4, I suspect they are more concerned with units being easily identifiable for eSport spectators than they are with making units look realistic unfortunately. With that said the visual updates to the environment do look good, but not "10 years after CoH2" good. Special mention to the destructible environment, it looks great and has a genuine effect on gameplay, so not all bad(!)

[@BackDaws]

CoH 1 is still better especially with mods

[@twiglets2]

@BackDaws Agreed. Everyone loves CoH2 but for me you can't beat the campaign of CoH1, it was genuinely cinematic

[@mikebond3210]

No Soviet faction this game loose points

[@rollandchapin5308]

I stopped listening to this Review at 1:58 and gave u a thumbs down. No Product can be released in an incomplete state. It has been common. Now it must stop. BG3 is the standard. Anybody who "Shills" for a company, who is releasing "Crap Incomplete Unplayable Games" is a KUUnnT .

[@darklysm8345]

dont be mean.

[@rollandchapin5308]

Do the right thing do not advertise with positive reviews for an unacceptable release of an incomplete , unplayable game. Get your views honestly ,with good personal integrity. @@darklysm8345

[@neverever1270]

graphics and poor optimization are unacceptable. fuck this game

[@gr3atestthink3r86]

No

[@twiglets2]

@gr3atestthink3r86 Yup