Is Converting Your Chinese MAK-90 Worthwhile? (Pros/Cons Over A Norinco Jing-An Rifle)

[@warrenharrison9490]

You are one of the most informative channels, always appreciate your views and knowledge.

[@misha5670]

Thank you for saying so, but there's tons I do not know.

[@sg51psd04]

Right when I think I know a firearm, Mishaco teaches me otherwise. Always informative . Bless you sir.

[@cjnoldner8526]

I picked up a mak90 that someone converted in the late 90s got it for a really good price. Who ever did the conversion did a great job shoots straight cool piece of 90s gun culture in my opinion.

[@misha5670]

Those are the best conversions: one where someone else spent the money and did the heavy lifting hehe.

[@cjnoldner8526]

@@misha5670 I would have no problem doing it myself I have built lots of aks but the Chinese parts are so expensive now that it wouldn't really be worth doing unless you got a smoking deal on the on a mak.

[@TheBobwatermellon]

I've got 5 MAK90s, 4 milled and one stamped. Picked them up about 5 years ago before the market went nuts... I love them but I dont think ill buy another one now that they are over 1000 each. However... Among the milled I have MAK90 S/N 0001, it is such a jewel of my collection.

[@markp4401]

You’re sitting pretty dude.

[@RosaParksWasWyt]

You have the very first mak 90 ever made? BAHHAHAHAAHHHAHHAAHAA!!!! 😂 Good one man, I needed that laugh. The first Winchester model 70 was being sold for millions of dollars not long ago

[@TheBobwatermellon]

@@RosaParksWasWyt Want pics? 😂 Who said I was selling It? Your so cute how you spelled out that laugh ❤️

[@YourLocalShooter]

@@TheBobwatermellonPost a video of it on your channel and let me know when you do. I want to see the serial #1 rifle. Thanks.

[@AMCKINGDOM]

Where's the video??🤷🏼‍♂️ BAHHAHAAHHHAHHAAHAA!!!🤣🤣🤣

[@markwhite6782]

I had a MAK-90 milled with that slant cut. Made attaching a stock hard so I welded another tang on the bottom and made the damn stock out of rough oak. Best thing I ever did as it turned out great. Added enough US paretrs for 922r and been spitting out rounds for over 10 years with it. What a nice gun.

[@TheBargainMan]

That slanted buttstock might mean it's an underfolder = post some pictures and I will tell you!

[@cardboard_shaft]

@@TheBargainManfed

[@georgeazar6879]

I’ve probably told you this before but I’ve threaded 4 MAK90’s with the 14/1 LH twist and had absolutely no problems with the muzzle brakes. 3 were milled and 1 stamped. I also bought 2 underfolder chinese AK’s that had a plug installed where the underfolder stock goes and the welded a tang on the back to accommodate a thumbhole stock. The treads were still there except they somewhat hammered them down. I bought the Chinese underfolder stock to put on ind it fits perfectly. Also I used the die to restore the threads and it worked perfectly. It still had the cleaning rod in it and a hole to put a plunger back in the sight post. Just wanted to share. Those cost me $189 and my milled MAC’s cost $225

[@misha5670]

I've had those with the UF stock plugs before. Looking at this one, i really don't think there is enough meat left to thread 14x1. But that's how these were. China built them out of whatever parts and did several different configurations. Back when no one paid too much notice because yeah cheap Chicom rifle.

[@georgeazar6879]

@@misha5670 I threaded 1 like this except it was a square cut receiver. The threads were so tight I almost couldn’t get the muzzle brake on. Just saying. It looked identical to this one you have except square cut

[@mattschion]

​@@georgeazar6879do you still thread them?

[@georgeazar6879]

@@mattschion I’ve got a couple more that I need to thread. It’s not difficult at all

[@mattschion]

@@georgeazar6879 anywhere near east Texas?

[@chadjones2168]

I found a mak in a pawn shop about 8 years ago for $400. It was brand new, I threw on a bonesteel folding stock, threaded the barrel and left the rest alone. Still one of my favorite ak’s and one of the smoothest.

[@markp4401]

What thread pitch did you use?

[@chadjones2168]

@@markp4401 14x1 lh I have had 2 mak90’s and threaded them both.

[@chadjones2168]

@@markp4401 I did have my gunsmith do it.

[@markp4401]

@@chadjones2168 The barrel must not have been threaded at the factory otherwise you wouldn’t have been able to use that pitch right?

[@chadjones2168]

@@markp4401 I would think so, my gunsmith would of told me if there was not enough meat on the barrel to thread, he is also a ak builder so he know his stuff.

[@chicorodriguez3964]

I've converted two MAK-90'S some years ago when the parts and wood was still very cheap and it was everywhere also I did it myself it was a cool project for me but I also own a machine shop so it made it a lot easier

[@misha5670]

lol yeah that would definitely help. And definitely if someone has the tools (and more importantly skills) to convert, it does make it much more practical.

[@chicorodriguez3964]

​@misha5670 thanks for the awesome video buy the way I did one as a regular stocked T56 and one as a spiker I still own the spiker but someone made me an offer I couldn't refuse on the regular stocked one so that one is gone

[@charlie-eu6or]

I love my Mac90. Runs smoothly. Great video! Come to kalashbash next year please.

[@analogludite9575]

I have a stamped, square cut Norinco MAK-90 that I got right at the beginning of the ban. The key selling points were "chrome lined bore" and "You can't get these anymore." In the box was a sling, a 5 round magazine to make New York State happy, a cleaning rod with nowhere on the rifle to put it, and an in-stock trapdoor style cleaning kit, also with nowhere to put it. I remember scrambling to buy pre-ban "high capacity" 30 round mags at 3 times what they were worth. Two I shoot with, two are still in cosmoline and brown paper. The handguards always wiggled when cammed in, and I have been filing, carving and sanding on that "thumbhole" stock since then to make it more hand shaped. Finally, this year I got fed up and decided to change it. Magpul AK Stock, handguards, and K2 pistol grip. All in Flat Dark Earth and all kinds of 922r points. 😊Pmags are good for 3 points each, one for the mag body, one for the follower, and one for the base plate. I love the upgrades, and the rifle is 3 lbs lighter without the Chinese lumber. All the polymer furniture fits tightly with no slack, slop, or wiggle anywhere. I should have done this way sooner.

[@exquisitearangement]

They welded the cleaning rod hole shut on the handguard retainer. The weld is substantially softer than the retainer, and not very difficult to redrill if you get creative.

[@markp4401]

Interesting. I’m not sure plugging that hole was required for the 1989 Bush executive order.

[@michaelbirdsong196]

Great video misha ! I thought of doing one of these at one time but I changed my mind ! Hope all is well ! My first Ak was a Mak 90 bought it when I was 18 at a garage sale for 150 .

[@thatonebaldguy1919]

I have a MAK90 I inherited. As my only 7.62x39 gun, I wanted to focus on making it as shootable as possible. I have a slant back to it but Desert Fox Outfitters makes a MAK90 slant back to M4 adapter that mostly covers the gap. The only "permanent" change I have done to the rifle is to thread the barrel. Everything else done to the rifle can be put back in the original state... there will just be 14x1 LH threads on the end too. Makes for a very fine time shooting!

[@markp4401]

You must have lucked out and gotten one that wasn’t threaded at the factory otherwise you wouldn’t be able to use that thread pitch.

[@thatonebaldguy1919]

@markp4401 it was the same outer diameter down the entire barrel and not truned down on the end. Had a gunsmith do it who said he had experience doing this. My brake hasn't flown down range...yet

[@misha5670]

@@thatonebaldguy1919 Yeah, the shaved ones have a noticibly smaller muzzle diameter, so you would have see it quickly.

[@warrenharrison9490]

I had a full thickness barrel on my pre 94, but it's missing the cleaning rod port, retainer and the bayonet lug. I did attempt threading M14 LH, should have brought it to a gunsmith, it's over cut to straighten the first so threads are extra fine🤦 it holds the muzzle brake with a crush washer.

[@thatonebaldguy1919]

@warrenharrison9490 interestingly, my lower handguard (just the wood) has a cut out for the cleaning rod but the handguard retaining plate, gas block, etc, appear to have been machined to eliminate these. Guess there is so much variance in imported Chinese AKs that you can probably see just about everything and anything.

[@luked2767]

It's important to remember the standard issue PLA ones don't have a threaded muzzle. Parts from recreator and PSA are not so pricy. Also on forums you can find people that do slant cut rewelds, and bayo lug welds for a decent price, Also sometimes you can get parts from deactivated AKs the old EU spec was a cut bolt face and barrel weld and drill the new spec , sometimes the whole action is welded but the parts for a conversion are still fine. I think it all depends on the price, type and condition of a MAK-90 But I also feel that the Vepr porter imports where some of the best and you can still get them for a reasonable price. If you can find a square back it will make life easy but I have converted Standard Vepr sporters and some of the front end parts can be hard to find but you can cheat a little if you have some creative welding skills. Even if you just convert it to accept standard mags with a bullet guide and buy a standard stock made to fit the slant cut they are some of the best AKs you can buy well they an RPK but have different calibers and barrel lengths. I feel if you wanted to buy a new I would go with a Zastava USA M70 The Zastava M90 in 5.56 is also great and I love the fact it has an 18" barrel as 5.56 wad made for a 20" and I don't like them shorter than 18" A decent WASR 10 is also great if you want a standard AKM platform but you will want to change out the FCG with a roky semi auto and break the weld on the piston and reinstall it with a pin rivet. You can buy a kit that has the romy FCG, piston and also pistol grip and maybe the T nut and bolt from centerfire systems or RTI for under 20 bucks, the rivet is a few bucks from apex. They just used the cheapist plastic furniture as the wood furniture before that was awful so get a laminate wood stock set online or whatever you like. 922R only effects the seller, if you buy it you can put what you want on it and their is no way to prove that it's US made or not. Ironically the main problem with the AK community now is if you shoot 7.62x39 and especialy 5.45x39 but I would allways use Russian steel case 9mm and .223 I realy hope someone will fill the void at under 30 cents per 7.62x39 round but that's looking less and less likely. Maybe time will tell and if Russia calms down or breaks apart then maybe but I don't see that happening anytime soon or ever. It's funny how a decent AR build even with FNH quality barrels are now cheaper than AKs If it keeps up I would think that we could possibly see an import chambered in .300 and from a reloaders point of view if you put in the work the cases are free and 125 grain bullets that are lead cast and powder coated work just fine with a full powered loading. So if your willing to put in a little work you just need to pay for primers and powder.

[@ELR311]

Great vid! We need more MAK-90 info. I have a MAK-91 NM (milled) from factory 386. The bh stock and fore-end furniture is dark in color. No bayo lug or cleaning rod but barrel seems to be threaded. It would be great to see a 90 vs. 91 video unless you have already done that. When ppl say MAK-90 does that include 91 or are they really separate and distinct? Or did they just rename it so it wasn’t banned by name on some list? Thx again for the great info!

[@cutchya]

My 5.56 mak-90 has had a broken stock for a long time. After this vid I got it out. Has a full squared off receiver,cleaning rod and a threaded barrel. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Ordered new wood for her.

[@jackmurphy8696]

Been looking for the wood, where do you get it?

[@cohort6159]

I bought my Mak90 for $165 back in the day. It had a folding stock receiver. The barrel threads were buzzed off sloppily. Then I got a milled receiver Mak90 and it was cool to shoot. I never updated my Mak90s. I bought a preban and let it go at that.

[@misha5670]

I had one years ago where they left about a quarter inch of threads still in front of the sight base. It could hold a slant brake...right up until you tried actually firing it. Ask me how i found out lol.

[@todd2048]

So PSA got back to me they wont sell the FSB as a part right now but have plans to do this in the future so had to order one thru Polytech parts for $280 with shipping. So I am forging ahead with my Milled type 56 clone parts should get here next week got everything else for the build.

[@littleboss6970]

You can find MAK 90s converted in the low 1000s range so comparable to lots of current imports

[@ichimonjiguy]

The Chinese AK has a quality "feel" to it. In my younger years, I saw a brand new dark Polytech Legend at a gunshow. I was blown away by it. I wanted (a great yearning) but I couldn't buy it for several reasons. It instilled in me. I guess it did to many people, too. This might be the reason for people saying "Chinese AK is the best". I then bought a thumb hole Egyptian Maadi for $200 from mail order. (Dealer transfer for $20) This AK totally ruined my AKM picture. It's a cheaply made tin toy. I hated it so much. I sold it as soon as I could. I've since decided to stick with the Chinese AK. I wasn't disappointed. Years later, I've got my dark Polytech Legend. Got T-56-1, spike, and etc. I did pick up a SA-93 along the way.

[@darionvacher9841]

I recently picked up an SA-93 myself, what a great AK, unconverted and very lightly used. And I got a great deal on it. I have no chineese AK's but for the right price I would buy one no questions asked

[@markp4401]

I would pay up for the pre ban. This entire video pointed out pitfalls, obstacles, and multiple possibilities for f ups in the conversion. You would really have to be certain that the gunsmith was skilled at AK debanning. I’m not sure those skills are widely available either. I live in a pretty large city in a fairly gun friendly state and I can’t find anyone close to de ban an AK.

[@todd2048]

Well I just got a excellent Mak90 on a gun trade I couldn't pass it up so now my dilemma is that I have an original Chinese 56 hooded fsb with fangs for cleaning rod or should I do the spiker route ?

[@PYRO-ON]

Loving this channel

[@JohnMays-op7zw]

Really enjoy your channel. I have a Mak-90 Sporter in 7.62X39 the serial number has K94 in the prefix with JPE Pomona CA. I haven't seen anyone mention an alfa character in their serial number before. Can you help me with this? or is it just a quirk? I haven't been able to determine where it was manufactured other than being stamped made in china.

[@TheBargainMan]

That MAK-90 came from Keng's Firearm Supply in Atlanta and was previously a Poly-Tech Spike folding bayonet PLA Model !!!

[@tampz0nz]

I found a pre ban type 56 on gunbroker a few months ago for $700. No idea how I was lucky enough to be the one to grab it, but it was very obviously owned by someone who bought it cheap and abused the snot out of it. dirtiest gun I've ever seen. Included was a polish bayonet that someone shot a hole in because they left the scabbard on while attached to the gun. But I cleaned it up, oiled it and am going to cherish it forever knowing I will never be able to replace it for that price again.

[@Pavia1525]

$700? Cool story, bro 😏

[@markp4401]

Good score man.

[@Badgerstate]

Shot it's own bayonet??

[@davidschlageter5962]

I have a MAK 90, owned since the 90's, It has the slant back and Desert Fox Outfitters had parts to attach a collapsable stock and a quad rail kit. It's really been great; I got a PSA AKP when they came out and I expected something similar. It was a big disappointment, not even close. I am glad I have it.

[@analogludite9575]

Regarding the cleaning rod deletion, I think they had them removed because they were NEAR the bayonet, and the people doing the banning had no idea what they were looking at or what it was actually used for. On my MAK-90, you can see where the hole in the lower handguard was welded shut.

[@markp4401]

F ing A Mishaco. Thanks man. This is right up my alley.

[@ronalddunne3413]

I had a MAK-90 milled, slant-cut that had been converted. No bayo, but there was a flash suppressor thing, slip on and pin I believe. The stocks and grip were a red wood laminate, and the stock was made to fit the slant as was, no shims needed.. Fired well, definitely not "stock" but not the neutered version.🤑

[@20alroco]

Nice wood, That stock is absolutely huge!!!!!

[@warrenharrison9490]

I have large hands and found the thumbhole stock completely unusable. I didn't even try, just replaced it.

[@reddog1ish]

Excellent video! Thanks for sharing.

[@KS-hj6xn]

My original thumbhole MAK90 stock cracked and broke on the top where the screw goes down from the top. The two sides chipped off. The only thing available was the Fiberforce Dragunov stock.. I still have that stock. I replaced it with a solid aluminum skeleton.

[@troyhutchinsii4543]

Does anyone else feel hunger for another AK video an hour after watching a Chinese?

[@JavaJoe]

More AK vids and some chinese food to go with it

[@alexeinspruch2989]

Paid $200 for mine maybe 7 years ago. Replaced stock with folding ACE, and a reddish USP grip. Finish did blemish on one side of receiver. Shoots just fine. Wouldn’t spend hundreds more for furniture and re-mil, plus fees for build. Have probably ten parts kit builds AK47/74 Yugo, Romy, Bulgarian, Saiga conversion was my first. Mak90 operates quite smoothly. Like all of them.

[@misha5670]

Yep, they are perfectly good. Not 'Chinese junk' but also not the 'besterest AK ever' either.

[@alexeinspruch2989]

@@misha5670 LOVE LOVE your channel man. If i had no awesome historical firearms lectures to hear I’d probably never sleep and suddenly wake up to gunfire!……btw I have no milled AKs for whatever reason never liked them. Do you have more/longer content anywhere? Thanks again.

[@allenlindsey1175]

years ago i ground the middle out of my front sight hood and to me the weapon is 100% perfect the stock is what makes it so good why o why would anybody change perfection

[@ericjohnson9080]

I always enjoy your excellent vids! I was luck enough to pick up a Norinco preban underfolder. But someone removed the underfolder furniture and put on an aftermarket dragonov sniper stock. I would like to return it to original underfolder. Do you know of any source for Chinese underfolder furniture kit? Thanks!

[@mphil3051]

Mak-90 's here in Florida Gun shows are expensive: Pre-ban $2,800-3,200 and Post-ban $1,700. Haven't see a pre-ban for over a year now. Chinese mags $50-100 and those with Chrome follower ~ $ 200-300. Both Mak-90's I own cycle Bear subsonic ammo without an issue and Xtec mags work very well.

[@nathanielrittenhouse9965]

My mak has the norinco stamp under the front trunnion. Its scrubbed but can barely make out the 56-2. Sadly it doesn't have the side folder, it does have the wood stock and grip tho.

[@mosesarea51]

Bought one second hand years ago while the getting was still relatively good. Stamped Interstate Arms Billerica, MA. I lucked out and got one with the straight cut under the Butt Hole stock as opposed to the slant. The muzzle appears to have never been threaded as well. About the only thing I did was install Standard Chinese Furniture. The only other consideration I had was to eventually thread for a muzzle device. Anything further would be pointless IMO as like you said it will never be a pre ban. Would it look cool? sure but by the time you spend on all the parts and pay a gunsmith you’d be better off selling and buying the pre ban. Just get out there and enjoy them for what they are folks:) Cheers Misha!!

[@misha5670]

Exactly, why i never bothered with rewelding the bayo lug on my Maadi or SAR1. They are fine as-is, but a threaded barrel is an easy and good thing.

[@gousmc1983]

Love my 56-1 under folder, pre ban excellent condition, can't believe how much they have gone up in price lol

[@brucecamparmament3728]

Well I just bought a Mak-90 (impulse buy from a pawn shop). Let the conversion begin!

[@bryceduvall8090]

Where do I find information on parts identifaction for the MAK 90? Are there any good books? I have one where the previous owner install the underfolder stock, looks like it was in the box which I have as well.I also have the plug that was in the reciever.

[@ichimonjiguy]

I have the same opinion. Only replace the stock and pistol grip; leave the front end alone. I've seen guns like that. I like the outcome.

[@k2han]

Nah. Have the spiker FSB installed, replace the handguard with good Chinese blonde, get a hole drilled in the retainer for the rod, and have the rear converted for a Type 3 stock or an underfolder if it's a milled version. Quality work only increases value as it eliminates the stupid ban era features.

[@ichimonjiguy]

@@k2han I don't like too much stress on the barrel. Every time you work on the barrel, it's getting tiny fractures. No, thank you , but no.

[@m.7n6]

Would love a follow up video on the pioneer arms forged series AKM you guys were abusing, what happened? Would like to know if it's holding up. Also would love too see a review on the Riley defense ak-74 5.45

[@misha5670]

It will happen, had to get some more x39 ammo, and more importantly more time too lol.

[@andrewcamden]

You can still use the long mags with the thumbhole stock AKs. The Thumbhole stock guns are an interesting piece of history. I feel as sad to see those converted as I do when I see people ruin military bolt action rifles by cutting down the stocks and adding junk to make them look tacticool.

[@bonsaw57]

You’re just wrong bro. Those are literally MADE to be converted……. Holy crap this channel sometimes

[@misha5670]

Well good news then because AKs still come into the USA with thumbhole stocks in 2023. The same ban inflicted on us in '89 is still very much with us today.

[@DaveDanger-v9g]

My thumb hole ban gun was $249 new in 1994. All I have done to it is put a $29 clearance Tap Co folding stock and pistol grip on it. It's has Ben behind the seat of every truck I have had since then. I am now looking for A good light mount. I have a small three rail mount around the sight on my AR's. It's by Yankee Hills Machine I love them. Now do they make anything for the old Chinese Mac 90's ?

[@tgcrissy7327]

Hello Mishaco I have a type 56 from the early 80's imported by Golden State Arms it is a spiker with a stock and next to the magwell it is engraved ging-an,china 7.62 and it is in excellent condition.Any hint you could give me on value would be appreciated.thank you

[@DJSLo36]

Got myself a MAK 90 during Covid for $800. Started switching out the butthole stock for a bonesteel foldable stock and an aluminum grip from KGB. Threaded the barrel myself and added a JMAC GFHC flash hider and installed an Attero Arms Bravo mount for my Holosun 503gu. Switched the upper handguard for a cheese grater from Khyber Customs and the lower for a PSA dong i chopped and refinished. Embrace modernity

[@shawnoandrew]

I bought a new early "MAK90" import that wasn't marked MAK90 and I spiked it. Glad I did but still into it a 1,000 bucks. Who else dreams of imports being allowed back from China?

[@misha5670]

Sad thing is by now China has really scaled back AK production, and it will probably entirally end here in the next decade.

[@markp4401]

@@misha5670 Would it be legal to send all the parts over to the US?

[@gd3515]

I love my Mak-90.

[@richardturk7162]

The thumb hole stocks sucked because they were too large in the grip for my hand. I modified several back in the 90s. I still have 2 or 3 unmodified thumb hole stocks like those. Have a polymer dragunov stock set too.

[@DaveDanger-v9g]

I lovey my ban gun. No flash hider. At dusk she really spits a fire ball out a long way.

[@tampz0nz]

As far as converting mak 90's goes, just get a stock and pistol grip and call it a day in my opinion. Chinese type 56 style furniture is available new if you look. Imported from europe where the chinese are still selling AK pattern rifles. What I will say is converting the front end might be a little more practical if PSA starts selling parts for their clone rifle

[@markp4401]

I agree.

[@misha5670]

@@markp4401 Is PSA using a Type 56 profile barrel?

[@markp4401]

@@misha5670 no clue.

[@chevyrunner8846]

Im saving up money to buy my moms friends mak 90 to just enjoy. I personally like the look for what they are.

[@Jm4n157]

How much is that going to cost you

[@markserpa4511]

I own a misr/mak90 and i am probably going to copy the Charlie sheen ak ,when he goes after Barnes. (Hardstock Spyker)

[@geeksgamesandgears2369]

Sad that ironwood closed after the owner passed. I have one of their stocks on my bwk92 to de-ban it. Not sure what options are out there now for a correct looking Chicom stock.

[@markp4401]

Maybe Combloc Custom or Kalashnikarver.

[@thevally6127]

Hey Misha, Since Zastava has not updated the ban are they considered now pre ban? Lol

[@warrenharrison9490]

Seen multiple come thru local shop, milled, stamped and the 5.56 version.

[@ichimonjiguy]

It seems like some local collectors (most likely just one guy) thinning AK collection.

[@projectblack2462]

Ive run into this issue with my SLR95. Ive decided to keep it as is. I wouldconvert my sar2 if the fsb wasnt unobtainium

[@mattheyer]

For the price these days your better of finding an FEG SA85M. I find the Fegs to be one of the smoothest well built AKs

[@TyroneJohnson-fk6gk]

I believe polytech still sells parts necessary to do a spiker conversion

[@Apolloneek]

Wait there are people who just bought a mak90 who got a free third cut ? That’s honestly crazy that they made it though and into the market. I wonder how many ?

[@misha5670]

It happened more often than you might think. Once a batch of M14S came in from China with most of their fun-switch parts intact. Another time, some Zastava guns came with the 3rd pin back in the late '90s after the civil war ended. Of course more recetnly in 2015, IWI imported and even shipped several Galil Ace pistols w/ the 3rd pin too. Then around the same time, Classic Firearms had and even sold a few Romanian PSLs with the hole too.

[@meetthebutcher]

had a bwk-92 that the Chinese even welded closed the cleaning rod hole in the hand guard front plate and sanded smooth and re-blued before importing ...??

[@stompnucustoms2616]

I got a milled mak 90 missing the stock so I got an adaptor and added a mission first stock. I then added a spiker kit from polytech USA. I then added a Attero mount and holosun 403B. the gun is insane half modern wood forend and spiker milled. Its so nasty!

[@misha5670]

Hey hell, go for it. I once considered making a Thompson semi-auto into an M41A pulse rifle clone so *shrug*

[@MourningConstitution]

Thanks!

[@TexasHellcat1836]

If I were to get a MAK-90, I'd leave it as-is. Just for the sake of historical reference of this is what people had to deal with back then.

[@misha5670]

Too many PTSD flashbacks for me personally. Thumbholes must goles.

[@Al_capachino]

I had a hard time finding a stock for my slant cut mak90, then I found kalashcarver and they saved the day lol

[@MrCeasar213]

Ironwood designs makes wood stock for mac90 that covers that gap

[@PolyTechnology1999]

This is closest thing we will ever get to a real milled receiver AK47 here in the United States.. not really any surprise that these have skyrocketed in value.

[@misha5670]

The Arsenal SA-93 and SLR-96 were good examples of late production AK T3. Both they and the Polytechs did ahve pinned barrels rather than threaded + several other modern features. But that stuff isn't a deal breaker IMO.

[@PolyTechnology1999]

@@misha5670 the SAM7 Classic also appears to be very similar to the T3 AK47 one of the only visual differences I could find was that the SAM7 doesn’t have the white bolt carrier like the original T3.

[@TheBks573]

I had to change the stock on mine. My thumb wouldn't fit through the thumb hole. Was the stock designed for a 12 year old?

[@misha5670]

Many Chinese AKs were sent to Africa, so....yes

[@todd2048]

I have owned many MAK90s 91s also I think the easiest conversion was buying a Milled Gas block and Milled FSB and threaded the barrel called it a day when the Chinese buttock came up I installed it that was a nice easy conversion. Its hard to do a spiker the parts are almost non existent or $400 for a fsb. But if I had another Mak 90 that's what I would do but I am hopeful that PSA sells the spiker fsb separately. Anyway its just a matter of having the parts keeping cost low and you can have a nice looking unbanned Mak90 if the price is right I would do it again.

[@misha5670]

Is the PSA built around a Type 56 profile barrel or an AKM?

[@todd2048]

Type 56 profile also you mentioned in the video the barrel is cut for the FSB ? is the barrel turned down under the FSB? I have unbanned other MAK90s but they had the non spiker fsb so it was easy to get a Milled gas block and fsb to install.

[@afnDavid]

WOW! 2x playback speed is very much required !! 2.5x would be even better. Mental slowpokes and people who talk like they haven't had any sleep in 3 days

[@misha5670]

No worries, you can get drugs to help woith your ADHD these days.

[@chrischiampo7647]

😮😳😀😊😎👍🏼 Option “A” Go With a Preban Model

[@paulhare662]

First !!! Got my Norinco back in 91-92 for I think $300 or thereabout. Found a normal stock, grip, handguards and sight/spike assembly in a box of junk at a yard sale for $50 years later. The wood was light blonde and was refinished in a dark cherry stain much like yours. Still have all the original ugly parts just in case. I agree with your opinion regarding original collector value. An untouched MAK 90 is like a low mile all original AMC Pacer.

[@misha5670]

Actually, looks like Alex beat you by a split second this time

[@paulhare662]

@@misha5670 Poop

[@markp4401]

I paid that for my MAK90 about 3 years later. I put a Choate Dragunov style stock on it. My memory of the pre ban non-spiker Type 56s at that time had them in the $800-1100 range.

[@davebentz6072]

I bought a MAC 90 back in the early 90's for $125. It's a slant back. I found a polymer stack set for the slant back and a pinned muzzle break for it. It's odd that it has a Maadi receiver with Chinese parts.

[@TheDiameter]

Those are dangerously out of spec guns… I would be very leery of firing it much.

[@misha5670]

Not early '90s. Those things appeared post '94 ban as they were built from cutup MAK90 types. Those and the B-West US receiver guns have about the dodgiest reputations from that era.

[@davebentz6072]

@misha5670 I have about 6 to 7 thousand rounds through it. I never had one problem with it.

[@ElTejon47901]

Bought 2 Chinese thumbholes. Did not convert either but checking the net looks like I need to consider selling, lol.

[@warrenharrison9490]

The amount of filing on parts I've put on the MAK90😭

[@3434324324]

I got one years back at a pawn shop that was slightly "bubba'd". Nothing ridiculous though. Did not have the original wood furniture. Just seeing gun joker prices for chicom wood sets alone is a deal breaker for me. I'm not knocking anyone's hustle because i understand why prices are the way they are. But its jusy too ridiculous for me. Id rather just enjoy mine like it is even if its not in its "collectables" configuration.

[@danh5397]

I love ak's but I've never been into the Chinese aks

[@michaelmarkle5133]

The wood sucks. The wood on mine was awful and cheap. threaded the barrel. Ar stock conversion. Magpul handguard. Attero arms optic mount. And a xp recoil spring cause it's extremely overgassed. Accurate and reliable. The double hook ak trigger isn't as nice as a tapco trigger but it's not terrible.

[@markp4401]

They call it chu wood. What the hell is that anyway?

[@michaelmarkle5133]

@markp4401 well it got chu-ed up by recoil

[@KS-hj6xn]

I can send you my Fiberforce Stock if you want to try it on the slant-cut Mak90..

[@jamesmincher5219]

Suprised U said nothing about lower h/guard for a Spiker!

[@warrenharrison9490]

Pre 94 go for 1900+ in Massachusetts, its the only AKs available.

[@tampz0nz]

as a MA resident myself, don't give money to those scalpers asking $1900 for unconverted mak 90s. Just get them from gunbroker like everyone else and avoid another unnecessary tax of being a mass citizen.

[@Enjoyer.762]

You could stop voting for Democrats.

[@johnbrown905]

I just got one for 1400 at four seasons in woburn

[@stefanmolnapor910]

I have a sa2000 i was debating to convert, i decided to keep it my ugly duckling because i do not have the tools or time and the magwell situation.

[@misha5670]

Yeah, the SA2000's magwell sometimes can be a PITA. Of course finding those 10 rd single stack mags for one can be a pain too.

[@rob10ring]

I know a guy with 2. He put a buffer tube on the back of one and changed out all of the furniture and trigger etc. . The other one had started life as an under folder and he’d asked me what he could do. I had no ideas. Is there something he can do, besides leaving it be?

[@misha5670]

Does it have an underfolding stock on it now?

[@rob10ring]

@@misha5670 No. it has a thumb hole stock and has a rivet and dimples. Solid back receiver. The stock is rough but it’s got a pretty good trigger and is fun.

[@tampz0nz]

if you can find a chinese underfolder stock & hardware, it is a drop in replacement. Just remove the plugs in the underfolder holes and grind off the rear tang that they welded on

[@alexander1902]

Can anyone recommend a gunsmith to do a conversion for us lazy armchair enthusiasts?

[@BNatoAk]

CW gunwerks out of Florida. You can do alot worse.

[@Scott079]

Weapons genetics, down in Texas

[@uncleTedK]

Meridian Ordnance

[@Enjoyer.762]

Give up, sell it, buy a quality high end AR10 lol?

[@alexander1902]

@@Enjoyer.762 I already have an SR25 and a SCAR 17. I’ve been feeling the void of a quality AK. Sucks to be born during the AWB and unable to get into guns long after the kit golden era.

[@benw2569]

What about 922r compliance?

[@misha5670]

That was a boy band back in the early 2000s right?

[@holden_tld]

complier? i barely know her!

[@scottdunn2178]

Who else is having flashbacks to North Hollywood seeing that thumbhole 😂

[@Ornelas11B]

I have one with the same initials on the side. C.J.A sfld MI. I live in Michigan and my dad purchased it years ago.

[@jeremiahcherry5283]

Since they are no longer imported, buy a PSA and leave the now no longer imported AKs as is in their sporter form.

[@markp4401]

I’m interested in knowing how closely PSA cloned the spiker. We need a Mishaco video on that thing.

[@Enjoyer.762]

If PSA had real and consistent QC.

[@akina4drift]

I did mines a few years ago, right before the price went skyrocket. parts and labor cost me about 6 beans. im in it for 1600 beans + binary 2100... 😂😂😂

[@r3tri3ution_z3nith_point_z6]

The first gun i took down a buck with. MAK-90.

[@AlexOrr-sd6nc]

Me done many times.

[@uncleTedK]

10 years ago it was worth the cost of conversion. Now, not so much.

[@markp4401]

I agree.

[@misha5670]

Exactly, so unless someone either has the parts already or ends up buying a MAK90 rifle with a decade out of date pricetag; not really worth it IMO.

[@warrenharrison9490]

31:05 Butthole stocks 😂

[@markp4401]

Great accurate terminology. Lol.

[@WolvCustoms]

I can’t find a mak 90. My dad had one years ago

[@larrymarsico4059]

1 more 4 the AlGoreRhythym💪🤙🇺🇸

[@TheUssrcjak47]

I can't weld for shit I wonder Why😎

[@misha5670]

Its a mystery for the ages

[@warrenharrison9490]

My sample was a clean unused one, must have been from a collection, the first owner after it came to local shop only fired 20 rounds then returned it, because his shooting buddy is a Vietnam vet and couldn't handle the sound of it firing, I got it and removed the wood put on inexpensive aluminum handguard and cheap folding ati stock with magpul grip. Just recently had a red stain wood stock hit the bargain bin at local shop, so now I have that on instead of the ATI. Has the square back stamped receiver.