Is Darth Nihilus TRULY Dead?

[@100StarWars]

Do you think Darth Niihlus should show up again in a future story in some way or another? Let me know! - Come follow me on le Twittor: twitter.com/100PerStarWars

[@Mrkotor1]

Should he? No. Could he? Yes.

[@ravensoath]

Jaded old school EU Star Wars fan response: Not with the majority of staff Disney employs to “create” new content, no, I hope they don’t.

[@Cailus3542]

I rather hope he doesn't. The whole point of Nihilus, one of the things that makes him terrifying, is that he's unstoppable. Only Meetra Surik could stand against him. Nobody else could do it. Not the Jedi, not the Sith, not the Bendu, not the Ones, nobody. Unless Meetra's Force ghost is there to give Nihilus a thorough spiritual bitchslapping, I suspect that any story involving Nihilus would cheapen his character and weaken his menace.

[@darthcarnage6734]

Yeah

[@TY-km8hj]

@@Cailus3542 it could just be retold in canon to take place in the old Republic. We're getting a kotor remake so I really hope we get a kotor 2 one too

[@xbox-spartan]

I believe that Nihilis is recovering after nearly killing himself. He attempted to devour the exile and it ended up backfiring and disrupted the connection between his mask and his "body" possibly draining him of all his power. If he is buried on Korriban then the dark side energy would be an iv drip compared to the planets he ate, there's nothing there other than the ghosts in the tombs, animals, or scavenger that wanders in. It would take centuries for him to return to his full strength.

[@100StarWars]

Millenia I'd say

[@sebastiangibson9671]

Or is trying to get helmet as it might be like vacuum we’re he needs a mask or he’s energy can’t do much other then possess armor and do simple actions

[@drw_predator]

for those who think a normal being like Meetra Surik could defeat the darklord with her skills but the Dark Lord never got destroyed , It became the DARKSIDE ITSELF !!!! Palpatine was brought back actually to carry out the Episode 9 to its ending, cuz Disney denied Old Replic as Non Canon (Dumbest thing to entire STAR WARS ever can happen, happened)

[@yeszavino8343]

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[@pangaeawriter8766]

Personally, I'd love to see Nihilus return in a new story set after Return of the Jedi. The galaxy believed the line of the Sith ended with Darth Vader and Darth Sidious, so how terrifying would it be to have a Sith from over 4,000 years ago take up the mantle?

[@larniieplayz6285]

It’d probably be after 9

[@windghost2]

What about Exar Kun?

[@pangaeawriter8766]

@@windghost2 He was done in Legends, and honestly, I didn't find him nearly as terrifying as Nihilus.

[@windghost2]

@@pangaeawriter8766 That's fair. What do you think a cool story involving him and Luke in the aftermath of the OT would be like?

[@LuiDeca]

shush. don't give disney ideas. in fact, every time i look at the comments of these star wars videos, 90% of the time i cringe at the kind of stuff people "would love" to see yet they don't see how terrible of an idea it is. leave kotor alone.

[@ixkahn]

I would've loved to see him in The Clone Wars. Like, imagine a story about some Jedi or planets being drained misteriously of the Force only to find someone being possessed by the Mask of Nihilus attempting to regain power. I see it like a fusion of the Mortis Arc and the Yoda going to Morriban/Korriban arc

[@GTA2SWcity]

Yeah well uncle George made it clear what an abomination he thought KOTOR 2 was. Though I fail to see how it seriously impacted his microbiotic view of whills and the force. But GL made clear he wanted Clone Wars to be _his_ legacy and to overwrite everything else. For pity because I would've loved to have seen KOTOR 3 and have it pay respects to K2. In ways nothing else (besides fanfiction) does.

[@ixkahn]

@@GTA2SWcity wait, he did? I didn't know that lmao. Was that an interview or smt? But yeah, I feel like no one but Chris Avellone really _gets_ KOTOR II and its characters, though I'd like to see how Dave tackles Kreia, Nihilus, and the Exile

[@GTA2SWcity]

@@ixkahn It used to be mentioned on the wookieepedia... before Disney fucked it up. I'm sure if you look you'll find it. I think it was a subject broached in an interview, yes, but I could be wrong. George didn't go near it to make it known, IIRC, so the other person asked. This was circa 2009-ish I read about it so whilst I'm being as honest as possible, my memory may be rusty on specific details.

[@ixkahn]

@@GTA2SWcity I'll look it up. Thanks!

[@GTA2SWcity]

@@ixkahn Yeah no problem. I do seem to recall he was talking to the voice actress for Visas Marr (a cute Asian IIRC) in person on one occasion but idk if that's the same occasion. Maybe a little something in that direction.

[@Cailus3542]

Interesting. I never considered that, but it absolutely makes sense, and it does offer story potential. Still, for me, I always figured that Nihilus was destroyed by Meetra. Meetra and Nihilus were the same after all, in some respects. Meetra was the one being that Nihilus couldn't consume. They both had an affinity for Force bonds, and those bonds gave them strength in wildly different ways. Their battle wasn't so much a lightsaber duel or some epic Force battle, but rather a battle of will. The difference between them was that while Nihilus was a victim who succumbed to the hunger, Meetra had the strength to turn away from it, instinctively cutting herself off from the Force despite how awful such an act was. In that sense, I always figured that Meetra just sort of...'willed' Nihilus to death through the Force? Dispelled his spirit? Sent him to the Shadow Realm? God knows.

[@ZacksRockingLifestyle]

Imagine if the ending of KOTOR II was Meetra poking Nihilus and then both of them falling over dead, having cancelled each other out lol

[@Hybrid980]

If it's on instinct, then there is no 'will' involved. She literally cut herself off out of fear, to avoid her trauma and pain that such a wound caused, not because she was an ubermensch that could withstand anything. Literally the only thing that separates Meetra from Nihilus is timing, Meetra was able cut off her connection to the force in time, while Nihilus wasn't. Plus we don't even know the specifics of Nihilus' circumstances that led to him being consumed by hunger, all we know is that he was on Malachor V when that horrendous battle occurred and that it started from there.

[@majk173]

We share the same point of view. I actually used this scenario back I think ten or fiveteen years ago when I wrote my fan-novel. It was basically a horror story with Darth Nihilus as the big bad. I never considered him dead. Just contained....trapped within the mask.

[@PapitoQinn]

Bring him back in canon? I don't know how Disney feels about allusions to drug addiction. If they do bring her back then what I would probably scrutinize the most would be how they go about defeating him. I'm still waiting on Chris Avellone to explain why he thinks Revan would defeat Nihilus. But I'm guessing it's by means of some sort of manipulation.

[@antonhallergren588]

My thoughts on the whole Nihlus and revan question are pretty simple. Nihlus wouldn't stand a chance against revan in a duel but revan is not immune to force drain. Or life drain in nihlus case, because I don't think many would stand a chance against that ability then it would be an easy win for nihlus. Another thing we would need to take into consideration is which point in revans life does Chris mean, I'd say he was not as powerful as meetra at the end of their respective games, but at his peak he is more powerful than her. So could that outdo the fact that she couldn't be harmed by life drain the same way he would Have been. I could see the case made for a peak revan pretty easily as he could almost stand toe to toe with vitiate. (I know vitiate is a whole different kind of threat than nihlus is but still) I agree that it's a pretty fuzzy statement that could use some clarity.

[@RogersRoger]

Didn't he basically said in some tweets that essentially Revan could potentially know some technique that would prevent Nihilus from draining him. Kreia said that no such technique exists but "she doesn't know everything" is a direct quote from Chris.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

...Isn't Emperor Belos from Disney's The Owl House a metaphor for drug addiction?

[@100StarWars]

We're waiting on Mr Avellone to answer many things lmao

[@dgrunklesamiii4615]

If they didn't want a series with allusions to drug addictions, they shouldn't have picked star wars; a intellectual property where throughout the movies the Hutts facilitated and maintained a drug empire that put pressure on both the republic and the empire.

[@AncestorEmpire1]

Depends on what is considered living and dead in the SW universe. I personally think he died long ago on the world of Malachor V. Hmm, just came to the realization that the three Sith Lords of Kotor 2 are all dead to some extent.

[@100StarWars]

*Death is only the beginning*

[@AncestorEmpire1]

@@100StarWars Count Dooku approves this reference

[@davidfarinella129]

imagine what Obsisian could have done or could do with KOTOR 2 if there was no time limite to make the game. and yes i would like to see Darth Nihlus return in the future. id like to hear the story we were supposed to get.

[@dar-nakkallig]

Well... There is a datamined banner from SWTOR 7.0 that has a stylized depiction of what looks to be Nihilus... So 7.0 might have something to do with Nihilus and a Sith named Darth Nul...

[@100StarWars]

Indeed ;)

[@wilsoncrunch1330]

His spirit continues and is now Darth Jar Jar the immortal.

[@hwi7114]

Nihilus is by far my #1 favorite character. I would love to see him in new content, but I would be very afraid of them gimping him because the good guys always have to win in Star Wars and Disney definitely isn't going to change that.

[@wigger2499]

Darth Nihilus should win Infinity War style and that should be the end of Star Wars. I love bleak endings

[@samwilson2250]

I'm gonna be honest, the thought of a dormant force of hunger that can consume the entirety of the force in the galaxy is a scary thing to think of. I'd say if he ever did come back and gained enough power the crisis might be on the same level as abeloth in legends.

[@CalebsCaveofCollectibles]

You better go read Supernatural Encounters when it comes out later this year! Nihilus isn't the only dormant force of Hunger out there in the far reaches of space.

[@100StarWars]

Add him to the list of dormant entities :O

[@dgrunklesamiii4615]

@@100StarWars Send him through hyperspace into the Maw Cluster.

[@Omnipulsar]

imagine if nihilus and abeloth clashed

[@Intrepid_A]

I want to see a star wars film centred around a crime boss finding Darth Nihilus mask and either keeping it as a sort of decoration or actually putting it on and utilizing its power to lead his criminal empire. You could have a bunch of jedi desperately trying to fight this crime lord in attempt to stop the mask.

[@seanlynch9716]

That's something I'd love too see

[@100StarWars]

Would make an interesting comic for me!

[@Sombraptor]

If Nihilus feeding on Korriban's nexus is true... The Darth Plagueis novel explicitly says that Korriban's dark side presence has been significantly diminished over the centuries...

[@Michael-fm8xx]

As someone who hasn't delved much into the Legends or Video game lore to much, never heard of this guy, but gotta say this character and lore is cool as heck! Great break down my dude :)

[@Cailus3542]

Yeah, Nihilus is downright terrifying.

[@antonhallergren588]

Go play Kotor 1 and 2 now.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

*inhales* OK, go read the Knights of the Old Republic comics, play KotOR I and II: TSLRCM, and wait for Marvel's Legends onmnibuses of Tales of the Jedi.

[@Michael-fm8xx]

@@michaelandreipalon359 Ah good to know, thanks my guy!

[@100StarWars]

Thank you! :)

[@captainkirk9691]

Great video fam I love these deep dives and lore in general especially in the Kotor universe keep up the great work. I always loved Darth Nihlus's design and wish he had more time to be fleshed out.

[@100StarWars]

Thanks, Captain!

[@feralchangeling97]

I think in some way he can. If we take his remains disappearing as becoming one with the Force, any future Wounds in the Force channel the presence of Nihilus from the netherworld of the Force and become him in a way.

[@100StarWars]

Interesting theory

[@drw_predator]

he never survived , tormented and mutilated to ever to bound by the DARKSIDE and for those who think a normal being like Meetra Surik could defeat the darklord with her skills but the Dark Lord never got destroyed , It became the DARKSIDE ITSELF !!!! All Sith who came after DARKSIDE are solely servants of DARKSIDE That is Nihilius(Latin meaning for NOTHING as itself explained of everything) for you Darth Vader was a another Human & Greatest Student of the Galactic Republic and Jedi ever had who sacrificed everything so he thought he could save his all family and friends and do better things with Darkside under the Master Sith of Palpatine , whom he was born to the world though the Palpatine's Dark wishes to form Midi-chlorian 100%

[@ravensoath]

You’re the only KZbinr I hit like on before I finish the vid. Always great stuff man.

[@100StarWars]

[@arsenal-slr9552]

Imagine if Nihilus was the main villain of the sequel trilogy instead of "somehow Palpatine returned"

[@tux75]

Darth Nihlius is way better than all the villains from the Disney/EA Star Wars era

[@Oodelally]

Darth Nihilus is simply a presence in the force, he has no physical form or body. I always thought of Nihilus’ explosion on the ravager as the Exile’s Force wound healing, he attempts to feed on the exile and fails to because of their wound. The exile’s wound either is healed at that point or after Malachor - feeding on the wound caused the opposite.

[@matthewkearney8570]

“I saw a man, nothing more” has got to be one of my favorite lines from Kotor 2. The idea that such a mythical fear would be humbled to what was really behind the mask, an addict to power.

[@UlyssesAlpha]

I just don't understand that because Nihilus was said to have cast off his body, and became a spirit.

[@twinodoom]

@@UlyssesAlpha Without the mask, his remains were a corpse no different from any other fallen Sith Lord. His hunger has consumed the last remnants of his spirit long before his body died, and the hunger has become harmless now that it has no metaphorical mouth to feed from. All that remains of Nihilus is his hunger, a power that consumed him and no longer possesses a means to consume from. And if the hunger should consume another, it will be because of their own actions, not the actions nor will of Darth Nihilus.

[@creolekolbytv]

@@twinodoom that’s just not true. He cast off his human form being consumed by the dark side and becoming a wound in the force. It literally consumed him and the “husk/wound” that had the avatar of Nihilus with the mask was that huge hunger feeding on the force from everywhere it could

[@twinodoom]

@@creolekolbytv You're misreading the poetry Kreia ascribed to it. The Dark Side consumed his human spirit to keep the physical vessel that carried it alive temporarily, losing nearly every sense of his identity in the process. He lost his soul, his body being driven by nothing more than hunger in a body that needed to constantly feed in order to fight off death at a rate that could not be sustained forever. Inevitably, it would starve if he continued consuming life at the rate he did. It was only a question of whether or not he would be killed before he runs out of food. After that, he's little more than a corpse with the dark power that made him dangerous trapped inside the mask that waits to inflict his fate upon another living person. When stripped of his power and what little remained of his life, he becomes just another corpse.

[@stevenceja4706]

I think Visas meant a man in a metaphorical sense and not a literal one. Despite all of his power and the fact that he was seemingly a god capable of destroying all life, underneath he was simply a human being who was suffering and a victim of circumstance.

[@jaw1002]

Great video! I like to think he lays dormant in the mask, waiting for a strong enough host. Kinda like venom!

[@100StarWars]

Think you might get some new viewers on your fanfilm, 3/4 people have already asked me where the footage is from hahah

[@jaw1002]

@@100StarWars Wehey, thank you sir

[@jhonnythejeccer6022]

Was always asking myself "how do you kill someone without a body that is already dead?", now i know that they just simply didn't because it is literally not possible. Thank you for this information. And i find the explanation with korriban plausible, at least from my perspective. I would love to see his tomb though, imagine if someone could figure out to speak his language again or give him his holocron to decrypt it

[@standoutsteel023]

i love Nihlus speeculation. i have some wild theories

[@DatMentalGamer]

this guy is the Ultimate Sith Lord imo. noone can surpass him. i'd love to see him come back.

[@GentlemanJacque]

Nah he ain't dead, he'll be back. He will find a way, they always do. Oh, so placing the mask on yourself grants you remarkable power? *Majora's mask theme intensifies* But seriously though, big sad that the mask isn't an equipable item in-game.

[@loganswalk8621]

I wonder how many Star Wars tabletop GMs used Nihilus's mask as a macguffin,plot device etc.

[@lordofconflict8282]

Mine did. It was at auction. So many Force users showed up.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

There were also some fanfics about this.

[@100StarWars]

Too many I'd assume haha

[@sebastiangibson9671]

I love the design of his mask

[@HitchcockJohn]

I’d be interested in seeing Nihilus make a return, it would just be a question of how. There is talk of a KOTOR remake that might be able to do something, or they could find a way to work him into something else from the Old Republic era. Or they could find a way to re-introduce him through an Easter Egg in something. Maybe in the Ashoka series she could find some holocron or other artifact connected to Nihilus. If indeed we didn’t truly kill Nihilus that could open up some interesting opportunities for him to play a role at a later time. Like maybe Palpatine tried to recover his mask in order to understand his power.

[@MiniCerberus991]

isn't his mask below the Jedi temple on Corusant? (I forget the spelling) if so, Palpatine definitely had access to the mask for quite a long time

[@HitchcockJohn]

@@MiniCerberus991 I'm not sure. Nihilus's mask might have survived thanks to it being removed by Visas but I'm not sure how much there is on what happened to it after. But I could totally believe something like that. There was supposed to be some dark stuff secretly hidden under the Jedi temple that Palpatine took advantage of. If there's a Sith Temple buried under there somewhere than it could conceivably have dark side artifacts like Nihilus's mask. I could also totally buy that Palpatine at some point was interested in Nihilus's mask. I don't know if he ever actually found it but I could certainly see where he may have been interested in trying to get Nihilus's power.

[@frozarburst6350]

3:49-3:51 I dunno what it is, but seeing the Sith Lord cross his arms in a casual manner is so funny to me

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

I’m surprised you didn’t bring up the fact Darth Nihilus holocron is still around during the legacy era, with the potential implications that it might have his essence stored inside of it waiting to possess another vessel like Darth indedu’s did in said story.

[@lordvader1993ger]

It contains the real Spirit of Nihilus, so he is still "active".

[@philip8498]

the fact that nihilus even made a holocron is weird to me. the way i understood him there wasnt a concious mind behind the mask for a long time. so the nihilus we meet cant make a holocron. and a still concious nihilus wouldnt be any more of a threat than any other run of the mill sith lord.

[@LuiDeca]

"somehow nihilus returned"

[@lordnihilus3198]

Wait...shall I rise to power again? Aside from that now I know what the red explosion meant: all the energy, all the lives that he had consumed, they were separated and freed from his spirit.

[@madestmadhatter]

Dart Nhilus was long dead, he didn't have motivation only hunger, the feedback weakened him to a point where he couldn't regain his full power, possibly killing the hunger itself bringing Nhilus back to being more of the man he was than ever before, either he was stuck without form or chose to remain formless, both make sense, after all he never craved power only for the hunger to end. If he comes back he'd be a plot device, like a force zombie... Different force zombie, hosts would put on the mask charge at those around them drain them of their force, and then collapse as the body itself begins to feed the mask

[@charlestownsend9280]

Now I want him to return in swtor in some event, like maybe a group of sith who specifically follow him and resurrect him or maybe he's resurrected by previous followers of the emperor, either looking for a way to bring the emperor back or viewing him as equal to the emperor as the only other sith who is on his level of power over life and death. It could definitely be an interesting story, maybe start on korriban and have a ziost like event (which explains why later in star wars the sith abandon korriban, maybe this event ended their rule over the planet, a rule that has been weakened already by two separate invasions in less than a decade), with the player character drawn to korriban due to a huge disturbance in the force from the future event and they investigate maybe thinking that it's somehow the emperor returning only for the twist to be another just as deadly sith. Then there could be several missions to learn who the new threat is (catching up those who haven't played kotor 2 and even expanding on the lore) and finding artifacts to defeat him. As for factions either republic or sith aligned characters would want to defeat them as they are a threat to either side, just like malgus, revan, the emperor, the emperor's children and those weird zildrog guys. The only thing against him returning is the same issue with palpatine returning in ROS, it kind of takes away the accomplishment of the exile and her unique ability to defeat him.

[@RevanLT]

Korriban always felt like a graveyard world. There are a lot of Sith spirits there. Remember Kotor 1, when we met Ajunta Pall? Maybe Korriban is some sort of hell, where self guilt keeps the spirits from leaving it. Maybe once you are buried there, you are bound to the dark side nexus and cannot leave it so easy.

[@lomme4023]

7:15 so even with the restored content mod its gone or are you talking about the base game here?

[@THESHADOW-x4t]

Personally I think Darth nihlius is still alive wether is in a tomb on korriban or as a specter I think he just chose not to come back in a physical form. Plus we have to remember he was on malichor V when the mass shadow generator was activated the first time and was touched by it. That’s when his physical body died snd he went on to become what we encounter in KOTOR II.

[@sebastiangibson9671]

In a way could part of him be trapped on malacor five cause man rebel’s didn’t do that planet but I know that I think it was malchor one but I like to think that after the shadow generator activated once more it crystlised and the force protected the stronger sith artefacts

[@aurelcorstan5242]

I think that the reference to seeing "just a man" is because before this moment, she thought her Master was essentially a Dark Side god of some kind. But in his defeated state, she was finally free of him, and realized, that like all living beings, even the most powerful, they are JUST people. In the movie The 13th Warrior, Antonio Banderas' character has a similar revelation after he kills one of the "Men who act like Bears", who "want us to think they are bears". The local people believe these enemies to be mystical evil. But, in fact, they were JUST people. I am sure that is what she sees through the Force. DESPITE his power, he was just a man, not a god.

[@Deku-vo2dn]

its crazy that Nilhilus could still be alive in the skywalker saga and beyond. if they make kotor Canon they could make Nilhilus a huge villian. they would need to assemble a team like the avengers to take Nilhilus down

[@DM5550Z]

He would just consume them all. He is fully a part of the force so it only takes wounds or ridiculously powerful palpatine tier people to resist oneness style entities.

[@eagarmp]

Hey 100%starwars there is a topic I would like to talk to you about which is when meetra destroyed malachor 5 did the the echo of the wound heel

[@100StarWars]

Thank you for the suggestion!

[@Chaz-Support]

Is that niihlus footage from an upcoming unreal cinema vid?👀

[@100StarWars]

Nah, link to the video is in my description

[@thesleepynecron9627]

Here before it turns out that Darth Nul in Swtor turns out to be Nihlus and Malgus has either found his mask or a way to free himself of his body like Nihlus has managed to do.

[@craigamills7276]

This guy is awesome love your work my friend. Would love your opinion on what a wound in the force actually is and how it travels and effects its surroundings

[@cavewulf956]

Darth Nihilus. I got special relation with this character. My first contact to the old republic was through a star wars encyclopedia that went through the entire star wars timeline before 2008. So it was purely legends. Whoever wrote this was a huge kotor 2 fan, giving the game a massive splashpage in the book, describing most of the characters. I was especially intruiged by Sion. Nihiluses Design was of course very eyecatching and the description of this dark entity made me really excited. But in the game a lot of the characters didn't quite match my imagination that I had gotten from the book. I love the game, but my inner child will always be disappointed and underwhelmed by these characters.

[@cameronsexton7759]

I feel like if nihilus returned, everything would be over.

[@cherubultima9930]

Saw a random lore Video on youtube from Darth Nihilus and instantly fell in love. I watched all star wars movies now and i crave that he get a spin off maybe trilogy like Anakin Skywalker but I guess not cause it would be more of a horror movie 😅

[@ontasbulent5709]

Even if not as you said I don’t think he wouldn’t want to come back if he comes back he will be hungry again and the force would probably intervene in someway to stop him like it sent Anakin to stop Palpatine as he’s a threat to the force itself

[@100StarWars]

'He'd be hungry again' hahaha mood

[@sebastiangibson9671]

I think what would probably happen some shmuck would accidentally open it and everyone’s f*ckd

[@Shishir27]

He is my favourite sith lord, I would really like it if they brought him back.

[@ramirozuccolo2524]

Off-topic question: do you know which comic has the story of the 100 years of darkness and Ajunta Pall? (If such story exist in comicbooks)

[@100StarWars]

He's mentioned in Tales of the Jedi and KOTOR but that's about it. The rest of his story is in encyclopedias and stuff

[@georgesuarez8325]

My friend amazing and astounding video!!!! I've always found Darth Nihilus a fascinating and sad character. I did see Darth Nihilus die on the Ravager after being defeated by Meetra Surik. Visas Marr approached his dead body then he disappeared but then saw a Force Ghost of a man, this I saw in Darthycey's videos. I would assume Darth Nihilus is dead but it's possible since he's wound in the force maybe in some way he could be alive Darth Nihilus reminds me again of someone else who in some way suffered a lot of pain like him. Nihilus was a Jedi during the Mandalorian Wars and the fall out of the Mass Shadow Generator on Malachor V changed him to become a monster. This other Jedi who reminds of Nihilus suffered a lot of pain in his life too, first the death of his mother and his beloved wife started his downfall to the dark side. After fighting his former Master and losing some of his limbs, he was encased in an armored suit so he could life and be a powerful Sith Lord. Nihilus's infliction to consume the force to life and his anger was like this other former Jedi because his anger and rage of his broken body being in a metallic suit that made him more machine than man and living with the pain of the lose of his loved ones

[@BlueViper8907]

Nihilus was truly one of the few entities that existed that terrified me. Probably the only one within any visual media, but certainly not the only one when including books.

[@existentialselkath1264]

I wonder what would happen if he takes off his mask, or robes. Would it be like a nazgul from LOTR, or is it just impossible

[@100StarWars]

Who knows!

[@UlyssesAlpha]

His spirit is bound to the mask since his real body was cast off. The power was too much for his physical form to handle.

[@hiwrenhere]

.... "Visas !arre is blind" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 had me laughing out loud

[@thestanleys3657]

I think he was just a spirit tethered to his armour and Visas Marr once the links were cut he couldn't interact with the world anymore. Well with the all consuming hunger that plagued him and if his new state frees him from that then he wouldn't want to return. But could he return sure it would need a reasonably plausible explanation, will he return I doubt it.

[@100StarWars]

I doubt it too

[@The_Admiral5]

He is dead. Like his predecessors before him, his spirit was sent into Chaos. The only surviving relics of his existence were his mask and holocron.

[@100StarWars]

As this video proves, that is not true.

[@sebastiangibson9671]

Technically not dead in how say how someone is dead yeah he’s dead

[@UlyssesAlpha]

He died when he casts off his obsolete body.

[@rulerofrandomness2794]

I'm all for bringing characters into canon. In legends I think this is a fun place to come up with stories, maybe he wanted to come back but it just took so much time to get a physical form that it couldn't happen until the legacy era, maybe there was a sect of the sith that wanted to bring him back and searched for a powerful vessel for him to take form. Honestly the possibilities are endless.

[@100StarWars]

Endless indeed!

[@jedipadwan20]

@@100StarWars the vessel would be Cade Skywalker the last living Skywalker. In legend that is.

[@CalebsCaveofCollectibles]

I believe Nihilus (alongside Bane and Andeddu) appeared to Darth Krayt in Legacy as Force Ghosts, though this could have been illusory or thrown a Holocron.

[@100StarWars]

It was a Holocron

[@TheAngelRaven]

Is Darth Nihilus Dead: Yes and no. The man behind the mask died, but the being that is Nihilus remains until the mask - and the Force as a whole - is destroyed. I'd love to either see a new Star Wars game set during the Old Republic, or even an expansion for SWTOR, where Nihilus is the main villain. It could easily be started by finding out that the mask is still intact, leading to chasing down would-be Sith Lords who put on the mask, only to fall under the control of Nihilus who attempts to devour something far more devastating than a planet.

[@colagamers2649]

Regarding that first theory with his hunger be filled, perhaps the sequels could have been the Death Star (or something else) that destroyed the planet, reawakening the force wound.

[@Pandemia616]

Yeah I would love to see him return in some way perhaps through the mask. It does beg the question though... how would he even be defeated? You need a wound in the force to beat him I think otherwise he would just consume them. Dude is hella scary.

[@Omnipulsar]

imagine if nihilus somehow took over yoda just long enough to go find anakin and take him over or consume his power

[@bensgalley1368]

I don't know much but his mask actually does make a small cameo in the old republic. If you play as a smuggler you can through your story on Tat help either a Jedi or a sith reclaim the mask both offer the smuggler a reward and the sith lady offers something else along with the reward hint hint

[@antonhallergren588]

I think without his physical being left he starved to death or simply wished to die when he could just like Sion.

[@Th3og0ny]

My theory that kind of piggybacks off your 2nd theory is that he tried to use force drain on Meetra Surik, the Exile. Ever since the Malachor V ceased to sustain life, Nihilus, Meetra, (and I think Scion) became "wounds in the force". Meetra had a subconcious ability to develop force bonds that were so powerful that if someone was injured, she felt it. And Malachor V she was able to feel the dying screams of everyone on the planet. In order to avoid death, she shattered her connection to the force. Nihilus felt a sense of hunger. He then realized the temporary satisfaction from draining all life of the force gave him purpose to still exist as a physical being even though he's still a walking corpse. Nihilus has been in search for something to satisfy his hunger eternally. Then, just before his duel with Meetra, he tried to drain her of force essence. But, he felt that he couldn't... in fact it weakened him. As you mentioned, he's the pure embodiment of the Dark Side trying to consume the force. Meetra is the exact opposite. The pure embodiment of the Light attempting to develop unity through her companions and others she comes across. When Nihilus realized that he couldn't absorb Meetra's essence, he was filled with rage but at the end of their duel, he may have felt the satisfaction he's been searching for... a way to live/move on. There's no purpose for him to remain in the physical realm if he's unable to consume all life. But in a desperate hope to one day return, he seals his soul in his armor.

[@MrBIGJ79]

I'd make a Horror Star Wars movie based on being haunted by Nihilus and Scion. He's utterly terrifying.

[@TomatoFettuccini]

Nihilus is a lich. His mask is a phylactery. The mask wasn't destroyed, thus Nilhilus wasn't. I think Nihilus could show up in a sequel, for sure. Would I want him to? Ehhhhh....probably not.

[@75JUNAKI]

2:45 I believe what Visas didn’t mean it in a literally, in a way she saw a man, not actually see a man but in a way. Don’t know how to describe it but it’s probably (like I said) not literally, like she saw him.

[@LJ-qq8lx]

Awwwww ye, Nihilus content! have you ever considered doing like a vs series? I think your takes would be interesting

[@100StarWars]

Hmm, considered yes. Acted upon, no.

[@UnswimmingFishYT]

The fact that Nihilus was stopped already as arguably the main villain of a story means a second use of him personally would be unlikely. However, his mask being such an interesting item, it's entirely possible that there could be a sith in a later time who finds and uses it, making his legacy relevant to a story while still being more original with new characters instead of just a reboot of the same guy.

[@darthrevan2410]

No one ever truly dies........

[@bloodyneptune]

I thought the "I see nothing but a man" was sort of ironic metaphor

[@100StarWars]

I believe that too. But many take it quite literally.

[@galacticfirefly6060]

That would make for a cool SWTOR expansion. You'd think the player character after enduring so much would be able to fight Nihilus? The star wars galaxy hides many dark ancient secrets that can wipe worlds in a instant.

[@SomeRandomCivilian1]

@100% Star Wars My question is what armor? We see his cloak, armor, and everything dissolve in a Dark Side burst, and we see.. nothing left behind. What armor was there? Was it a spare armor he was holding in another room? Or what?

[@insertnamehere259]

We need darth nihilus to show up in one of the future shows next year or a show about him

[@Jonathan_McConnell]

Him: “Darth Niihlus’ mask could even make people force sensitive.” Me: “That’s what the point of the mask is!!!”

[@user-yo8ab1ys9e]

So you see, that's where the trouble began. That mask. That damn mask. Darth Nihilus will always be my favourite Sith. Edit: Also, he reminds me of my favourite Goa'uld from Stargate SG-1 - Anubis.

[@DanielGarcia-eb2xo]

That would be so awesome if Star Wars The Black Series released a Mask for Darth Nihious just like how they made Helmets for the Black Series

[@NerdWithGuns]

I know I’m late to this discussion, but the lack of context regarding Darth Nihilus is kind of the point… Chris Avellone, the lead writer of KOTOR 2 is known to deconstruct common tropes in the media and universes he works on and Nihilus along with Sion are both deconstructions of the character of Darth Vader. Nihilus looks cool with his mask and black robes, but there isn’t much underneath, while Sion is a brute, scarred physically and mentally, who once betrayed his master, yet finds himself ever a slave to someone above him (though in sion’s case, the master he betrayed and the one he’s enslaved to are one in the same). In short, Nihilus is the aspect of Vader that looks cool, while Sion is the actual character underneath the armor.

[@catacombkid1985]

I get it but i dont want to know TOO much about him if that makes sense. He almost works better as an Eldritch horror. I think the place where i draw the line personally is who he was before the Mass Shadow Generator was activated

[@shannonembry5510]

Maybe something could happen in future installments that results in his resurrection years later. Image modern era star wars having to deal with a revived Darth Niihlus simply because someone has a lapse in judgement. 🤔 Hm sounds like a setup for a star wars horror movie.

[@targonattoll6348]

I view him almost like the nazgul and Sauron on term of living

[@kaiterenless1888]

"Nilihus has returned" would have been considerably better than "Somehow Palpatine returned."

[@CondemnedInformer]

I know people will disagree and that is fine, But I hope he makes an appearance in swtor. I think a whole expansion around him and growing his lore would be awesome. But I know people will disagree.

[@micaiahflores1592]

But I’m hoping from the gauge of the Knights of the old republic one remake we should be getting a Notes of the old republic to remake as well. And to save on costs they could probably reuse all the voice lines from the original and clean them up a bit.

[@sebastiangibson9671]

Could you do a episode on his mask?

[@Regulus985]

I’m sure Nihlius was one of the Sith Lords shown in the Legacy of the Force comic book as a guide in a holocron, I’d like to think he was connected to it somehow. I love the idea that he endured and could possibly find a way back into the physical plane. Plain?

[@Deku-vo2dn]

on wookiepedia it says that Nilhilus is dead but I don't think he is really dead I think they put him as dead to not confuse people.

[@aureliagrey8072]

It sucks that most of his story was scrapped, are these scrapped story bits available in the KOTOR2 remake mod?

[@raistormrs]

in SWTOR the armor is burried on Korriban and in books or was it a comic? i forgot, could be contacted via his Holocron or was it Xoxaans holocron? im getting old... anyways that means even 100+ ABY he is still burried on Korriban.

[@vvanderer2287]

Imagine an imperial recovery team trying to resurrect him

[@I_am_a_cat_]

How was he already dead? I've played kotor2 like 20 times start to finish and I dont remember anything saying he was dead before we fight him

[@Law-Kell]

I personally think there’s a chance Nihilus returns in eclipse. I mean, it’s in the name

[@kirkbolas4985]

As Luke told Leia…no one is ever really gone…ok…so that was really the mouse setting up the possibility of infinite income from the ability to have popular but dead characters return, fed by the power of lazy writing and shitty stories driving residual merchandising income to keep the Disney shareholders happy.

[@jessehorn6180]

If Nihilus comes back, Ray will have to face him.

[@antonhallergren588]

She would be destroyed in milliseconds no matter how little training she needs to have unreasonable and unexplained powers. She is not immune to life drain.

[@jessehorn6180]

@@antonhallergren588 well then she better get training on that.

[@princeLaharl2]

Bring it back. Do it.

[@LOVEPHOENIXDANCER]

well he is incomplete he contained himself in both his mask and his armor and at this point his armor would be to damaged to contain him but if someone powerful like a skywalker or a papatine brought his mask to korraban he could persess them if given time but i wonder if he would be in his right mind after?

[@miqvPL]

My take was that we destroy his physical body but he was barely connected to it anyway as he was me after a week of diet entering Burger King- hunger personified. But I think personality wise he was so hollow, so obsessed with consuming that he lost himself, he lost his personality and became a force ghoul that after losing his body in a fight wasn't able to become a force ghost like Exar Kun but something less, a shapeless shadow, a feeling. Or you could say in KOTOR 2 fashion: an echo. So no, not really something that can be brought back but I could see someone in the future "feeling" his presence, his hunger in a place filled with Force energy, obsessed with it but unable to actually consume it. Like me on a die-ok I'll stop before I make myself hungry again. He could be used as a warning to future force users to not go full reta-full dark side, to not lose himself in the dark side completely like Jedi like to do with the light side.