Is Diablo Stronger Than Rimuru?

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@anglenesevillano6751
@anglenesevillano6751 7 ай бұрын
Rimuru underestimates himself, is why we see him doubt himself everytime he engages in a fight. Diablo on the other hand knows Rimuru's capabilities and how strong Rimuru is, one reason he wanted so much to serve him because Rimuru is way stronger. Diablo is never scared of the 6 Primordials or anybody else for that matter, but he is scared of Rimuru.
@deenman23
@deenman23 7 ай бұрын
thats because he senses the deep source of rimuru's soul,diablo was 100% stronger than rimuru at first,but he lacks his divine potential
@prashantgiri-ch9se
@prashantgiri-ch9se 6 ай бұрын
@@deenman23 diablo is physically stronger but he still has no way to actually defeat rimiru if rapael actually helps him fully... ..diablo cant overpower beezlebub or get through uriel.......and even other hax diablo has raphael can counter or create a counter to on stuff.. ..
@ut00bvor
@ut00bvor 7 ай бұрын
Regardless of whether Diablo may be able to overpower Rimuru, Diablo openly sought a subordinate position (contract) with Rimuru. Remember, contracts are everything to demons in this world.
@yaboysjdior
@yaboysjdior 7 ай бұрын
That ain’t no contract man since it’s not temporary contract at best is a temporary thing if am not mistaken
@ut00bvor
@ut00bvor 7 ай бұрын
@@yaboysjdior There is aa contract, go back to the conversation between Noir and Rimuru prior to Noir getting hi name, Diablo.
@yaboysjdior
@yaboysjdior 7 ай бұрын
@@ut00bvor that not considered a contract there’s no full filling task given to him he did what was supposed to do Him serving Rimuru isn’t a contract it’s just something he wants to do
@Heishim143
@Heishim143 6 ай бұрын
​​@@ut00bvorthat contract was already over after the destruction of the falmuth kingdom. Rimuru even confirmed this by saying that Diablo can go now since his job is done
@Steroyd666
@Steroyd666 7 ай бұрын
The only time Diablo was stronger than Rimuru was that brief period when Rimiru summoned him while he was evolving into a demon lord, it should be covered really soon in the anime but a Demons magicule count is capped (including the primordials) until they're named and it's revealed way later in the LN but with how Beelzebub works is that Rimuru ultimately gets stronger as his subordinates get stronger so Diablo is not "allowed" to get stronger the moment he was named by Rimiru, plus unique skills as a general rule cannot beat ultimate skills. That being said. Another thing that supports that Rimiru is stronger or at least Diablo can't kill Rimiru is that when Raphael goes on an upgrade spree the only person who didn't get their skills upgraded to ultimate was Shion because Raphael thought her skill could kill Rimiru, Diablo got the all clear.
@Nivek57
@Nivek57 6 ай бұрын
Good point. But being able to kill Rimuru is harder than just beating him in a fight. The biggest differences and why Diablo is stronger than Rimuru is because he was able to instantly bring out his full potential and master the power he received by being named. Rimuru and Raphael need time and battle experience to do the same. Diablo is loyal to Rimuru because of his potential not his current strength. Rimuru's strength currently in the anime (1st half of season 3), he is the weakest demon lord in the Octagram. (Yes other than Ramiris and yes his ranking will obviously change by the end of the season unless they keep having meetings....) I can tell I don't need to tell you this but for the others, Diablo is one of the few characters who can match Raphael's intelligence even after being fully evolved and the oldest and most experienced fighters in their world. This is why his current strength is the same, he is a Demon Peer as soon as he is named. He does not receive another power up until much later in the story. Later it will show him beating 3 very strong girls 1v3, before he evolves which means at his current strength in the anime. Now do you honestly think Rimuru could beat those 3 at his current strength in the Anime? No chance, sure he wont die because he basically has unlimited magic, which means unlimited regen, plus broken ability to absorb/block almost any attack. Surviving and winning the fight are two different things. (This is why Shion is a threat because her ability basically gives her unlimited damage, she can still lose even with the ability. Which is a great example because she survives the fight(with help) but still loses it.) There is only one follower who is objectively stronger than Diablo's current strength. Its because they are already fully evolved and at their max strength and also being trained personally by Veldora helps too. It's because Diablo is so strong that he never considered the need to evolve to achieve his goals. Its not until the fight that proved he was not Rimuru's strongest follower anymore and his loss to another character that he finally decides to evolve. He gets an ultimate skill and masters time stop, his intelligence and combat experience have always been maxed out from the start.
@Nivek57
@Nivek57 6 ай бұрын
Yes the whole point of the show is watching Rimuru realize his potential to accomplish his goals. He does not start out the strongest but rather improves exponentially through time, and most importantly battles. Diablo is the opposite, he basically starts out at his max strength and does not have a reason to get stronger until later in the story. I don't think its until early Eastern Empire arc that Rimuru is clearly stronger than Diablo. Ofc late Eastern Empire arc Rimuru becomes stronger than Veldora. The point is the gap is quickly closing but I don't think it is until after this upcoming fight in the anime that Rimuru has the edge and starts to surpass Diablo.
@Shakaa8354
@Shakaa8354 6 ай бұрын
​​​​​@@Nivek57Up until the point u said Diablo lost is correct... but when did Diablo lost to Zegion..?He still haven't lost to anyone..but From vol. 21 it is clear that Diablo never even fight Zegion serioosly and drawed the sparring between them.. Diablo had a habit of making Rimuru's subordinate stronger.. Just like he did with Shion when Diablo and Shion were fighting Insectar... Diablo could have easily defeated him.. but he limited his strength to Shion's lvl to make her stronger... and same with Zegion he said to Zegion If you tried harder you could have defeated me... But Diablo could have easily defeated Zegion.. But it would have definetly stopped Zegion's potential if he would have been defeated by Diablo..Zegion's whole potential lie on his pride him being strongest but Defeated by Diablo would surely had hinder his growth..That's why I think Diablo never defeated Zegion...Remeber in vol. 21 Zegion was one shoted by Zalanus... and to Defeat Zalanus he had to use Nihility collapse+Dino's God grade sword(God grade sword has over 10 million EP).. But on the other hand Diablo was fighting Zalanus without going all out only with hand to hand combat..
@Nivek57
@Nivek57 6 ай бұрын
@@Shakaa8354 Zegion was only stronger than Diablo for a little bit but it was when he killed Zalanus and became King. Yes Diablo also intended and helped make this happen. Diablo could not defeat Zalanus with his own strength. Yes Diablo could have likely beat Zalanus if he used Rimuru's strength, which is how Zegion defeated him. But Diablo is Rimuru's fanatic. Diablo only wants to help Rimuru and be used by him. He considers using Rimuru's strength or destroying anything Rimuru made, blasphemy. This means he refuses to borrow Rimuru's strength or attack his cells which is his rule for when he or the other 3 primordial fight Zegion. He would rather die than commit blasphemy against Rimuru, unless he is given permission or ordered to by Rimuru which does eventually happen in the story. This is why Diablo chose to beat Zalanus in a way that helps Rimuru, even if this temporarily no longer makes him Rimuru's strongest fighter. Diablo has absolute confidence in his strength and knows he will reclaim his "rightful" spot, and its only a matter of time for him. Diablo decides to help Rimuru by making one of his followers stronger and buys time for Zegion to be able to become King by killing Zalanus. This is the moment is when he finds a reason to become stronger. Diablo has always been seen as "odd" by the other primordial because he became bored and stopped trying to get stronger and instead looked for a way to eliminate his boredom. Diablo has absolute confidence and knows he can get stronger, what he needs is a reason. I think one of the reason he liked Rimuru, other entertainment, was because Rimuru surpassed his own potential. Diablo could always have found a way to become strong as Guy but never had a reason. This fight and later protecting Rimuru became his reason.
@Shakaa8354
@Shakaa8354 6 ай бұрын
@@Nivek57Well We can't say Zegion is stronger even for a little bit when we haven't even seen Diablo pushed to the limit... Even during sparring Zegion won against other primordial 1 on 3 but when fought against Diablo the match was draw b/w them.. I still remember the word Diablo said to Zegion after the sparring... He said If you tried a little harder I would have lost... this type of line is usually said by Diablo when someone is weaker and from here it was clear that Diablo didn't win against Zegion on purpose.. because Zegions strength lies on his pride considering himself strongest subordinate but If Diablo had stomped him in earlier stages his growth would have been affectef... and Diablo had a habit of making Rimuru's subordinate stronger not weaker.. (Diablo is still carrying the mantle of undefeated character in series). And It's not just likely that Diablo would have defeated Zalanus but It was definetly He can defeat Zalanus..If Diablo would have pushed to the limit and people Inside the Dungeon would be in Danger he would have immediately stopped Holding back because for Rimuru instead of things people are more important...but he was never pushed to the limit and He only fought Zalanus hand to hand without using any skill because If He fought hard he could have destroyed the dungeon along with Zalanus.. Even during the fight we can see he had still time to mock Zalanus.. and Zalanus had same feeling as he was fighting against Milim.. and After Zegion awoke Diablo happily gave him the opportunity to exact his revenge.. I think Diablo didn't defeat him because he was enjoying the fight..Just like he always do in every other fight where he lead his opponent to use everything in their arsenal.... later he said regretted giving Zalanus to Zegion when Vega was not even worth looking over.... I hope Next Vol. clear about Diablo's power... I hope they make him fight Feldway and left Iwaraj for Rimuru and other's..Diablo already said he would take care of Feldway..😅 But they sure are taking too long to release final volume.. 😪
@Dan12234-pc
@Dan12234-pc 7 ай бұрын
I does sorta make sense considering primordial existed back at the dawn of time so Diablo would be really powerful
@WisdomKingAnime
@WisdomKingAnime 7 ай бұрын
In one episode Veldora wondered if he was older than him I do believe
@permquestor218
@permquestor218 7 ай бұрын
​@@WisdomKingAnimeDiablo is billions of years old so yes
@yaboysjdior
@yaboysjdior 7 ай бұрын
@@permquestor218 I he not they are thousands of years old like 20,000+
@yaboysjdior
@yaboysjdior 7 ай бұрын
@@permquestor218only the Angels and Insects are over Billions of years old because the the spirt world where Ivarage is time run differently there
@yaboysjdior
@yaboysjdior 7 ай бұрын
@@permquestor218Velzard was the second born and it was early times she was born … really early and she isn’t Billions of years old Giy came to Central world over 10,000 years ago and he knew about the existence and said it’s been aolround for some centuries before his own arrival
@eugeneabatayo3383
@eugeneabatayo3383 7 ай бұрын
Current diablo vs current rimuru is 50/50 Also diablo beat someone with an US when he was just a unique skill holder And diablo already has demon lord haki even before he became a true demon lord Also diablo used to rival Guy crimson and his battle experience is greater than rimuru And the only reason diablo didn't have an US is because guy crimson brag about getting one first that's why diablo didn't want to get one And besides he doesn't need it before And lastly no one in the entire series manage to even force diablo go all out i mean literally not one characters in the series has made diablo go all out Current diablo till volume 21 diablo has not go all out yet in a fight cuz no can make him Well besides Guy Crimson but that was before Guy got summoned to the Cardinal world and when their power is equal but besides that no one even made him go all out 👀🍷🗿
@WisdomKingAnime
@WisdomKingAnime 7 ай бұрын
Yea, I know he's really strong, debates on this fight went either way but i saw more people say Rimuru wins. Also that's why I said not likely instead of he just loses. This fight would be a nice one to see in the anime but Diablo wouldn't even try due to his deep love for Rimuru.
@eugeneabatayo3383
@eugeneabatayo3383 7 ай бұрын
@@WisdomKingAnime yeah he won't even think of harming rimuru hell he would even gladly die if rimuru ordered him to kill themself
@josephrogers3666
@josephrogers3666 7 ай бұрын
Nah guy is still stronger than Diablo without turn null and current Diablo is not enough first guy having suspended world it’s an instant win even against turn null he has the potential I think turn null might be enough to overcome guy very very very op ultimate skill
@eugeneabatayo3383
@eugeneabatayo3383 7 ай бұрын
@@josephrogers3666 I didn't say diablo is stronger than Guy I just said that guy is the only one who made diablo go all out in a fight
@farhanasultana11
@farhanasultana11 7 ай бұрын
This is what happens when someone triggers a light novel reader.😅
@Karda_Nava
@Karda_Nava 7 ай бұрын
Nah.. At this time in the anime, Diablo is currently overall more powerful than all demon lords except for Guy, & Milim. Rimuru has not yet become more powerful than either Diablo or Veldora. Not YET at least… Diablo shouldn’t be underestimated by any means. His experience, ungodly skill, & insane control over magic, & innate talent & power as a primordial being (one of the absolute oldest beings in all of existence), etc etc makes him one of the top ten most powerful beings in the verse.
@vinayakshelke8848
@vinayakshelke8848 7 ай бұрын
Dagruel may be more powerfull then diablo
@ClarenceEcarma-md7ju
@ClarenceEcarma-md7ju 5 ай бұрын
Your wrong., in volume 21 I forgot the chapter, now, that he defeated Manas Michael add all skill and skill and the new holder of ultimate skill of angelic..ect... I think no one can beat him now.he even move in the time stop and god of time stop by Michael and ultimate skill of Chloe,god of time stop.even diäblo can't move and fell knees down,in an instant although he sense suumting.rimuru further evolve and got Michael skill,Chloe's skill later on by ciel,and all angelic skills ect...he can even defeat milim and guy at the same time,DIGITAL EVOLUTION...
@ciel_.0001
@ciel_.0001 5 ай бұрын
@@vinayakshelke8848obviously Dagruel no diffs Diablo, Diablo has no answer to suspended world , maybe in the future if he transcends suspended world , then Diablo can beat dagruel and maybe even guy cause guy too can move in suspended world
@BeastMaster-xr6xy
@BeastMaster-xr6xy 6 ай бұрын
Regardless of any and all things Diablo can do Beelzebub allows him to do everything all of his subordinates can do so he wins by default even if Diablo would want to kill him, it's never happening and that's just one of his ultimate skills he's has much more to talk about to even tap into the absurd abilities of this future god slime
@keyneee1144
@keyneee1144 6 ай бұрын
No one can beat rimuru in his verse the moment he named Ciel.
@meliodas6371
@meliodas6371 7 ай бұрын
Quick question quick answer. Diablo can't defeat Rimuru. Maybe in anime and manga Rimuru would have some difficulties, but in Light Novel thanks to『Harvest Lord, Shub-Niggurath』Rimuru have access to all of Ultimate Skills of his subordinates. On top of that he also acquired Michael's skill, that gives him access to every skill from angelic series.
@lauryrepiq
@lauryrepiq 7 ай бұрын
Rimuru is stronger than Diablo because he named him.
@neilandrewloria6301
@neilandrewloria6301 7 ай бұрын
Exactly. And theres many unique skill . Including true demon lord slime & dragon..!
@CidKageno-e7t
@CidKageno-e7t 7 ай бұрын
Ah u don't understand naming is not all about who's stronger,u can tell it when rimuru 1st meet veldora even veldora is million times stronger than him he still glow that means he still get a power up even rimuru is weak,and if u remember the orc disaster easily kill the Majin that names him and eat him
@Surelynothooman
@Surelynothooman 7 ай бұрын
​@@CidKageno-e7t nicely explained 👍
@MoJiTo-_-
@MoJiTo-_- 7 ай бұрын
​​@@CidKageno-e7tyou dont understand he didn't glowed matter of fact he admitted that rimuru naming him will be a family name which humans use, and his name will grant him protection sorry to pop your bubble.
@MoJiTo-_-
@MoJiTo-_- 7 ай бұрын
​@@CidKageno-e7tand about the orc disaster that marjin named an orc and he evolved to orc lord and then after becoming demon seed he became more powerful enough to be on a low demon lord level (admitted by great sage)
@jayveeberido3521
@jayveeberido3521 7 ай бұрын
Diablo and any subordinate of rimuru will never be above him because of rimuru's skill Food Chain.
@calebstephan2083
@calebstephan2083 4 ай бұрын
Dumbest reasoning. Eventhough rimuru doesnt necessarily have a food chain link to veldora he is still linked to veldora through the soul corridor and can use veldoras skills like black lightning but they arent nearly as strong as veldoras because he doesnt have as much magicules. Same goes for diablo
@jayveeberido3521
@jayveeberido3521 4 ай бұрын
@@calebstephan2083 I don't think Veldora and Velgrynd are "subordinates" to Rimuru... Food Chain only works on subordinates... It's not the same as diablo because diablo is a subordinate of Rimuru
@Mr1969coin
@Mr1969coin 7 ай бұрын
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@zohonkotsu
@zohonkotsu 7 ай бұрын
Well rimuru above Ln volume 11 clear's mid diff due to having a better understanding of his skills as that was all he really needed to fight even true dragon's. After true dragon evolution its no-low diff and it just gets easier as it goes.
@JimmyCrackorn
@JimmyCrackorn 7 ай бұрын
Rimuru has Veldora and Uriel as ultimate skills. Veldora is a True Dragon, so he trumps a Primordial in total raw power by default. The only way he can lose to anyone under True Dragon is to be outplayed and sealed away, like in the case of adult Chloe. Uriel gives Rimuru Infinite Prison, a technique that doesn't fully depend on the power level of the user. Very hax. Not to mention, Diablo's access to his full Primordial power in the physical world entirely depends on his summoner to allow through. For the referenced time, Diablo in his true form indeed had more *raw* power than Rimuru himself did, but Diablo *can't* win specifically due to those three unavoidable factors that nullify that power. You're being kind by giving dissenters even five minutes of your time explaining it lol Take my like.
@darnellwilliams3823
@darnellwilliams3823 6 ай бұрын
Diablo Is Older & Stronger Than Veldora.
@JimmyCrackorn
@JimmyCrackorn 6 ай бұрын
@@darnellwilliams3823 Age isn't what matters, and the lore of the verse itself states quite clearly that True Dragons are the most powerful. Full stop. Veldora is a True Dragon. Milim fought Guy, and he stated that they're equals. That's about the same level as Diablo is. Veldora played with Milim to keep her occupied until the spell wore off, after comically eating a hard punch to the back of his head from her [and didn't even buckle], and was dominant in the sparring match. Rimuru even made sure to ask him not to harm her.
@prashantgiri-ch9se
@prashantgiri-ch9se 6 ай бұрын
@@darnellwilliams3823 diablo isnt stronger than veldora .. even after becoming a true devil lord he would still get easily humbled by veldora...
@benji5320
@benji5320 7 ай бұрын
I don’t think there’s any point in time after Rimuru summons Diablo where Diablo is stronger than him. There is an argument to be made that Diablo could have beaten him pre TDL evolution and maybe just after it, but it would be due to superior knowledge and skill rather than power. Rimuru always appears weaker than he really is b/c most of his fighting prowess is locked behind Raphael. He’s not a complete idiot, but he’s not exactly the smartest or most skilled fighter without it.
@ArtoriusCollbrande
@ArtoriusCollbrande 6 ай бұрын
In the anime, veldora, guy, velzard, milim, diablo and dagruel are stronger than rimuru. Rimuru only becomes stronger than them when he names ciel
@ChaosClem
@ChaosClem Ай бұрын
Apparently everyone saying diablo doesn't stand a chance and so on....has only seen the anime and never read the light novel, cauze it's stated MANY times that primordial black (diablo) unlike his fellow primordial siblings refused to fight all the time like them, he never trained with them or raised his abilities through battles, but the one time he did fight one of them, he fought primordial red (guy crimson), guy who had unique and ultimate skills during their fight while diablo had never trained nor had any high level skills....was still able to end it in a draw, which caused diablo to sit back and wait for his chance to force himself through rimurus demon summon, yes rimuru has all his skills I get that. But don't forget diablo can snap his fingers and put up a complete anti magical barrier...not one that nullifies magic slightly, diablos entirely cuts the use entirely of any magic being used, which would force rimiru Into a close quarter hand to hand fight in which he stand ZERO chance against diablo, I'm not stupid so of course I know if rimuru got any single one of his skills off, diablo is done for, but rimuru has a few years experience in that world....diablo has literal millions of years, he wouldn't hesitate to put up the barrier and do what he needed to take him out unlike rimuru who likes to play with his food some and think to hard and long about his next moves, or spend time asking Raphael what to do lol
@ClarenceEcarma-md7ju
@ClarenceEcarma-md7ju 5 ай бұрын
No one can beat him now in light novel new and current vollume and chapter...
@austintea
@austintea 7 ай бұрын
In LN rimuru stronger, in Anime Diablo is more skilled but rimuru could probably win with Raphael
@ginolibang6069
@ginolibang6069 7 ай бұрын
The fact that naming him only used up half of Rimuru's magicules shows how much more powerful he was than Diablo. And this was right after he became a true demon lord. Rimuru has further evolved several times since then.
@pulsar2977
@pulsar2977 7 ай бұрын
Thats not exactly how it works, the magicules consumed dont correspond to the power level. Remember, rimuru even named Veldora. Current Diablo(demon peer) beats current rimuru (not LN)
@Baku_goatrame
@Baku_goatrame 6 ай бұрын
That doesn’t mean anything. All that says is rimuru’s has a huge amount of magicules
@prashantgiri-ch9se
@prashantgiri-ch9se 6 ай бұрын
@@pulsar2977 he doesnt rimiru is too haxed...
@mza3544
@mza3544 7 ай бұрын
There are 2 ways to view this 1. a) Diablo is stronger because: diablo was way stronger than any demon seed level character making him stronger than rimuru before he became a demon lord. b) demon lord rimuru gained 10x his magicules but diablo, aside from already being stronger than rimuru before, got a name and bexame a demon peer which are on a level of awakened denon lords. Again, due to diablo's inherent strength, this would still put him on par with rimuru. c) im not sure of the details but i think diablo evolved into a demon lord just before rimuru became a true dragon. If i remembered this correctly, then no voubt diablo is strpnger durinf this time. Now, 2. Rimuru is stronger than diablo because of his food cgain ability which makes him strpnger than all his subordinates (this is the common claim) Rimuru is stronger due to having 4 ultimate skills which are in a league of their own Rimuru is stronger because he was able to name diablo after diablo already ascended to demon peer which indixates rimuru is stronger than diablo Either way, im all for it. But Diablo. Eing my favourite character, i have my bias leading me to think diablo is still stronger than rimuru until his dragon incident. Besides, diablo is weird af even among the primordials so i wouldnt be surprised if hf served someine weaker than him just out of interest
@WisdomKingAnime
@WisdomKingAnime 7 ай бұрын
Yea all your points make sense. I heard in tempest he's only second to Rimuru and Veldora but I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't by that much. Also If I remember right a human in the anime said a demon peer can grow infinite so he can scale as well.
@yaboysjdior
@yaboysjdior 7 ай бұрын
Diablo wasn’t a demon peer until Rimuru named him the name evolved him to a demon peer Diablo was just a primordial arch demon that incarnated not a demon peer , if you are mixing up info similar to Giy evolution Giy became a demon peer after he got souls and a physical body the both is required to evolve into that existence physically body and souls = demon peer also physical and name = demon peer if you get souls last or Name last then you get the same result awakening devil lord bringing you to your races peak years in the physical world will increase your Ep
@yaboysjdior
@yaboysjdior 7 ай бұрын
@@WisdomKingAnimeno Demon peer have a limit on energy and power level that they can go to it stops somewhere around 1,000,000 ( 1.3 to 1.4 million) plus but their experience in combat makes up for it
@yaboysjdior
@yaboysjdior 7 ай бұрын
@@WisdomKingAnimeDemon peer are existence near on par with demon lords but Luminous and Leon and Dino are at the same level Rimuru is at rn so they all out class demon peers Leon has extreme destructive Disintegration attack and Luminous has mythical grade weapons and her own version of Disintegration that can kill True dragons
@yaboysjdior
@yaboysjdior 7 ай бұрын
Demon peer are existence near on par with demon lords but Luminous and Leon and Dino are at the same level Rimuru is at rn so they all out class demon peers Leon has extreme destructive Disintegration attack and Luminous has mythical grade weapons and her own version of Disintegration that can kill True dragons
@AgarioSplitrunner
@AgarioSplitrunner 7 ай бұрын
Question. Can Diablo revive with Rimuru's bielzebub ultimate?
@WisdomKingAnime
@WisdomKingAnime 7 ай бұрын
I'm not sure but he can never die fully in general like true dragons
@laughingman7882
@laughingman7882 7 ай бұрын
If you serve Rimuru then he has access to all of your skills
@pulsar2977
@pulsar2977 7 ай бұрын
excluding Ultimates and all related subskills
@jf9144
@jf9144 7 ай бұрын
Rimuru is stronger bec during naming process rimuru didn't pass out. Spoilers: as each creature linked to rimuru gets stronger Rimuru gets stronger and vise versa
@prashantgiri1642
@prashantgiri1642 7 ай бұрын
yeah and after veldora got revived rimiru got another ultimate skill as well or 2
@OrionEJ
@OrionEJ 6 ай бұрын
Yes, but the naming argument does not always work, because when Rimuru does not have enough magicules, Veldora would act as an extra supply during Rimuru's naming sprees.
@prashantgiri1642
@prashantgiri1642 6 ай бұрын
@@OrionEJ yeah but at that time rimiru had basically 4 ultimate skills. which were broken. . and due to foodchain rimiru would always be superior to diablo... not to mention rimiru keeps on getting constant powerups increasing the gap even further.. diablo did get closer to him again when rimiru evolved him into a devil lord when rimiru questioned if diablo was stronger than him but which we later kne diablo wasnt stronger against battle with veldora and velgrynd..rimiru could just use his ultimate skill to restraint one of them for a time while dealing with another. ..showing rimiru was already at the level of true dragons due to his ultimate skills and his power via foodchain ..and after becoming a true dragon as well he showed the difference
@OrionEJ
@OrionEJ 6 ай бұрын
@@prashantgiri1642 Bruh you start with saying at the time he had 4 ultimate skills, then you jump to when he has ciel vs veldora and velgrynd, thats soo many volumes to skip bro. Rimuru does actually get stronger throughout the story. It's not that he's as strong as possible once he becomes a demon lord, he power ups throughout. For instance, when rimuru named all the black numbers and got the 3 primordial girls, he had a pretty big increase in power. He got another boost when he started evolving his subordinates to demon lord in the war with the eastern empire. Then with Ciel and him being a true dragon. But he actually evolves after becoming a true dragon, because he has no TIME to deal with strong enemies.
@fliplife67
@fliplife67 7 ай бұрын
I’m puzzled the author didn’t make him a villain.
@Mr1969coin
@Mr1969coin 7 ай бұрын
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@WisdomKingAnime
@WisdomKingAnime 7 ай бұрын
You can just make sure to put my name Wisdom King Anime
@Mr1969coin
@Mr1969coin 7 ай бұрын
Alr​@@WisdomKingAnime
@wanttogetfood
@wanttogetfood 7 ай бұрын
Could Rimuru dodge Diablos attempt to lock him in this dimension Diablo used on Luminaries or could he avoid being crushed with deploying Uriel or could be perhaps eat said world with Beelzebub? I'm certain he could. I haven't seen Diablo using Azazel yet but S2 Rimuru definately beats Diablo who is able to comfortably beat only low-tier Ultimate Skill users with maybe 2M EP on average
@WisdomKingAnime
@WisdomKingAnime 7 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure Uriel and beelzebub are both simple options for him to resist but also it targets the persons spiritual body. Rimuru has a strong spiritual body and spiritual resistance I do believe so I’m not sure if it would even work on him
@wanttogetfood
@wanttogetfood 7 ай бұрын
@WisdomKingAnime I'd imagine Rimuru might feel like diver under some decent water pressure when Diablo collapses this dimension on him.
@yaboysjdior
@yaboysjdior 7 ай бұрын
@@WisdomKingAnimethat Dimension won’t hurt Rimuru it only works on those with weak and no spiritual defense which awaken beings have a lot of
@yaboysjdior
@yaboysjdior 7 ай бұрын
@@wanttogetfoodit wouldn’t do ish to him
@yaboysjdior
@yaboysjdior 7 ай бұрын
@@WisdomKingAnimenext like you said Beelzebub can eat it it ignores space and time
@DarkXypher
@DarkXypher 7 ай бұрын
In anime, yes In LN, no In WN, no In manga, idk man i didnt even know a manga existed before a few weeks ago
@jamilgonzaga7081
@jamilgonzaga7081 7 ай бұрын
May I ask why are there separate novels from this series
@DarkXypher
@DarkXypher 7 ай бұрын
@@jamilgonzaga7081 idk one is light novel one is web novel
@cardfighttv6931
@cardfighttv6931 6 ай бұрын
great now why not do an actual hard versus like hinata vs diablo or veldora vs milim
@ChaosClem
@ChaosClem Ай бұрын
Of course, anyone who read the light novels already knows, diablo will never challenge or disobey rimuru so that's one fight we will never get to witness,here's a quick and easy logical way of looking at it.... 3 of the 7 days clergy almost EASILY wiped out rimuru if not for sacrificing beelzebub for the divine protection he was toast, 3 other clergy used the same exact disintegration skill on diablo....he simply snapped his fingers, canceled their spell and ended their loves within seconds.... logic and common sense best favoritism anyday people! And I'm saying that as a Rimuru super fanmyself, hell rimuru is the only anime character i trulky believe can beat , goku AND one punch man 😂
@eeveemaster5794
@eeveemaster5794 7 ай бұрын
How is demon lord Rimuru vs Diablo even a debate? Rimuru named Diablo, and thus even if Diablo became stronger, food chain would just kick in.
@trapking2009
@trapking2009 7 ай бұрын
Sorry I can't imagine rimuru losing to Diablo
@conquest0066
@conquest0066 7 ай бұрын
Once diablo decided that he will be a loyal servant of rimuru he can no longer become stronger than his master rimuru because of rimuru's skill food chain making him (rimuru) more powerful than all of his subordinate he also gains access to all of his subordinates skills so no diablo is not stronger than him
@j.k.6200
@j.k.6200 7 ай бұрын
I'd say that rimuru is stronger power-wise. If it came to showdown and only strenght mattered, rimuru would've won. But let's not forget that Diablo is "primordial black", which means that he's as old as guy crimson. And that means a lot of experience. Hard to say if rimuru could close the gap in this aspect even with raphaels help
@folajinabeel6123
@folajinabeel6123 6 ай бұрын
Yeah but remember he found two dragons who are more powerful than diablo and just as old
@redpapa859
@redpapa859 6 ай бұрын
Technically speaking everyone is stronger because he's a slime
@Nivek57
@Nivek57 6 ай бұрын
He is especially when he was first summoned but the gap is quickly being closed, by Raphael. Also worth mentioning Diablo is one of the few people in the series that can keep up with Raphael's intelligence. Where the anime is at right now for this season its closer to a 50/50 and the last time you can give the edge to Diablo. Rimuru is still weak right now compared to any of the top tier characters, and honestly the weakest demon lord in the Octagram (not counting Ramiris). The plot of the entire show is watching how Rimuru turns his unlimited potential into reality to accomplish his goals. The whole reason Diablo took an interest in Rimuru was because of his potential, not current strength. Diablo has never been impressed by strength, he expects it. Being strong will get Diablo to acknowledge your existence but it alone is not enough for him to pay attention to you. The other Primordial are good examples of this. Alternatively, some weak human who says something good about Rimuru will instantly get his attention, praise, and potentially respect.
@SoldierSpiderx
@SoldierSpiderx 7 ай бұрын
I think Rimuru it stronger then Diablo but he don't believe in himself and doubt himself but Diablo know that Rumuru it way stronger then think he it and I have no doubt that if they fought 100 that Rumuru would win and Diablo love server Rimuru cause he know he going be powerful and I remember when in this season where one of the noble disrespect Rimuru that Diablo was about to blow up the whole kingdom
@tompestinger7430
@tompestinger7430 7 ай бұрын
If Diablo is no dif by rimaru then wat about guy? He is the strongest primordial by far but it was hinted Diablo was relative to him I thought
@WisdomKingAnime
@WisdomKingAnime 7 ай бұрын
I said not likely but I have heard people say both that Rimuru wins no diff and that Diablo wins up to before Rimuru gets true dragon so idk
@tompestinger7430
@tompestinger7430 7 ай бұрын
@@WisdomKingAnime I'm not really debating Diablo vs rimuru my question was manly referring to guy crimson vs rimuru cuz guy and Diablo I think we're referenced to be the 2 strongest Primordials
@prashantgiri-ch9se
@prashantgiri-ch9se 6 ай бұрын
@@tompestinger7430 people quite dont think of context..diablo was equal to guy like hundred thousand years ago..while guy regained his true powers in the human world and regained numerous powerups on top of that and has gotten stronger due to his fights thousands of years...while diablo hasn't even regained his power
@calebstephan2083
@calebstephan2083 4 ай бұрын
For the idiots saying diablo is weaker. Rimuru was weaker than diablo for a good bit after he summoned him. Diablo was already stronger than luminous after being named and luminous was stronger than rimuru for a good portion of the novel until like volume 11 or 12 which is where id say he surpassed her. Yall tripping. Currently diablo is damn near stronger than all the demon lords besides guy, milim and dagruel. Yall saying rimuru is stronger because rimuru can use diablos skills are on drugs. Just because he can use diablos skills doesnt make him stronger. Rimuru can also use veldoras skills like black lightning etc but they are no where near as strong as the original user becsuse he is weaker than them. Its confirmed in the novel at this point in the anime and manga rimuru is weaker than luminous who is only slightly stronger than unnamed ultima who is the 3rd weakest primordial. Diablo is the second strongest after guy and was once guys rival in power thousands of years ago until diablo gave up on becoming stronger which let guy surpass him and increase the gap in power.
@ijikegaming4202
@ijikegaming4202 6 ай бұрын
For a long period in that time I got reincarnated as a slime he is more powerful than rimiru and would win be he is the type of character to be super obsessed with rimiru so he would never challenge him also I’m not referring to that he’s a man when I say he primordial demons don’t have a gender especially Diablo so no way this would ever happen
@ZachParks21
@ZachParks21 6 ай бұрын
Bro. Rimiru is a God. Edit: Rimiru is The God
@xavierperes
@xavierperes 4 ай бұрын
Diablo is actually stronger, smarter and more versatile than shion. Heck! He would be perfect to replace shion as bodyguard and secretary as well as right hand of rimuru after shion died But Diablo is not stronger than rimuru 😕 he’s the right hand of our slimy demon lord, and would never defeat him, much less oppose him
@ericcastillo4026
@ericcastillo4026 6 ай бұрын
This was all pointless, Diablo wouldn't even think of trying to kill Rimuru, he is completely devoted to him, further more he gave his oath of servitude to Rimuru, and I don't think he could break that under any circumstance.
@kyosohma_2829
@kyosohma_2829 7 ай бұрын
The answer is yes but diablo cannot die. So battling him is a headache
@yaboysjdior
@yaboysjdior 7 ай бұрын
No Primodial can die in Fact no demon can die the servants of the primordials have battle each other before
@MFD00MTR33
@MFD00MTR33 7 ай бұрын
True, but Rimuru can just trap him in imaginary world forever with Azathoth.
@shadowgaming475
@shadowgaming475 6 ай бұрын
diablo bodies rimuru up to like hinata rematch because of his vast experince,after that its debateable
@prashantgiri-ch9se
@prashantgiri-ch9se 6 ай бұрын
kinda no rimiru wasnt trying to kill hinata ...and raphael didnt help rimiru much cause it was not needed.. rimiru has 3 ultimate skills....which would pretty much make rimiru unbeatable against diablo..i didnt include the 4th ultimate skill cause it summons veldora...rimiru is far haxed than diablo..so in a battle where raphael helps him rimiru wins every time
@JecciClark
@JecciClark 6 ай бұрын
Short answer, no. Long answer Diablo would probably actually win in an actual fight but Rimuru has greater raw power
@prashantgiri-ch9se
@prashantgiri-ch9se 6 ай бұрын
1 missing point diablo is physically stronger,skilled in combat, possibly faster.. but rimiru posseses atleast twice the magicules .. has 3 ultilmate skills...beezlebub (would eat most of diablo's attacks), uriel(will block almost all attacks) raphael (simultaneously manage the skill and also create counters to other on the spot..s
@jeffreyong5435
@jeffreyong5435 7 ай бұрын
how is diablo as strong as guy but rimuru is stronger than diablo but weaker than guy?
@prashantgiri-ch9se
@prashantgiri-ch9se 6 ай бұрын
he was strong as guy like a hundreds of thousands of years ago....while guy recovered his true power which he has in the underworld in the human world and kept on getting stronger and gained numerous powerups ..while diablo has not even recovered his true power
@prakharsharma1514
@prakharsharma1514 6 ай бұрын
if you want the short answer from a novel reader the NO
@kingkorash
@kingkorash 7 ай бұрын
At which point in the series? At the end of the story, Rimuru is easily stronger, not even close. At the beginning, Noir, not even close.
@AgarioSplitrunner
@AgarioSplitrunner 7 ай бұрын
0:50 wasn't that debunked later.. rimuru didn't have enough mana to name Diablo so that 50% is made up. Read the Ln
@WisdomKingAnime
@WisdomKingAnime 7 ай бұрын
Is that what Raphael meant when it said an equal pact or something couldn't be made when he named Diablo
@MrTreeman1979
@MrTreeman1979 7 ай бұрын
No. at 1st sure but Rimuru become the God of the vers
@Mr1969coin
@Mr1969coin 7 ай бұрын
Ok it made
@WisdomKingAnime
@WisdomKingAnime 7 ай бұрын
Whats your tik tok?
@Mr1969coin
@Mr1969coin 7 ай бұрын
@@WisdomKingAnime luck..king
@tigzhalas
@tigzhalas 7 ай бұрын
Rimuru is true dragon 🤦🏻‍♂️
@think1965
@think1965 7 ай бұрын
This video probably talks about anime
@RejectHumanityReturn2Monke
@RejectHumanityReturn2Monke 7 ай бұрын
Diablo is stronger than Rimuru until.... Spoilers . . . . . Rimuru becomes a True Dragon species himself.
@ciphercircel16
@ciphercircel16 7 ай бұрын
I genuinely don't see how this is even a debate. Rimuru has 4 f********* Ultimate skills and even if you give Diablo powers from beyond the anime like Holy magic and is own US he STILL can't beat current anime Rimuru Temper no matter if Ultimate or Unique gets blocked -> Rimuru has Spirit Attack nullification paired with ABSOLUTE DEFENSE and he has superior will power so he ain't moving that guy to another dimension without his consent ever even magic is not effective as for one Rimurus control/authority over magicules is higher than Diabols even if he is a Primordial -> should Rimuru finally decide to actually use Law Manipulation for something other than creating those lame ass Black flames even casting magic should be nigh impossible and if you don't buy this argument then there is always ABSOLUTE DEFENSE, anything that Diablo has besides holy magic gets blocked and while holy magic might by some miracle get through, chant nullification doesn't work on it, so there always is prep work to be done for it so it can be easily be dodged as is the norm since usually barrier don't even have the slightest chance against Disintegration, this goes even for absolute monsters like Guy there is simply nothing really working against Rimuru, he is like "Jack of all trades master of most(if not alll)" oh and i am pretty sure the resistances in the video are is currents once in the LN aka the strongest and most developed version of him and not from the anime
@keyneee1144
@keyneee1144 6 ай бұрын
No.
@AadamDestroyer
@AadamDestroyer 7 ай бұрын
First
@Vim-fj9lz
@Vim-fj9lz 6 ай бұрын
i
@patrikbarine_c1246
@patrikbarine_c1246 7 ай бұрын
for now in anime Diablo is still stronger even rimuru will admit it
@j.k.6200
@j.k.6200 7 ай бұрын
I'd say that rimuru is stronger power-wise. If it came to showdown and only strenght mattered, rimuru would've won. But let's not forget that Diablo is "primordial black", which means that he's as old as guy crimson. And that means a lot of experience. Hard to say if rimuru could close the gap in this aspect even with raphaels help
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