Is Discovery BACK!? Or Is Russell's 13 Unbeatable? | Russell's Reserve 13 vs Bardstown Discovery 11

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[@stymiesnerdly771]

Josh’s reaction to both, but especially the reveal of Disco #11 was well worth the price of admission! I had a good laugh, and I would have been the exact same in that situation. 👍

[@dennisorthmann5842]

Erin, it feels like if you think it, it's on your lips. You don't hold back, and Josh complements you perfectly. You two are such a good duo. Keep up the great content. Thanks for all your efforts.

[@stuffandwhiskey]

Thanks so much for the kind words and for watching Dennis! Cheers!

[@Lawnshrooms]

Not even a minute in and Josh already has his foot in his mouth 😂

[@stuffandwhiskey]

It’s truly a gift. 😂

[@mtallos95favperson]

Just watched this, i actually just tried both this week and I think disco 11 has an upper leg on complexity

[@c.j.miller2665]

this was my favorite video from the two of you, thus far, because of the real-time reaction. i am so down for the extra few minutes to see your thoughts and reaction on such great products. cheers!

[@graveshotx]

FWIW, in MD Disco 11 can be found for 125, and I've seen it as low as 100-110. For that price, well worth it.

[@inkynate9372]

Came here to say this. Found Disco 11 for $120 and bought a backup at that price.

[@robertlee6781]

S&W has it for $109

[@kingkrow420]

I would never call either of these thin, and I’ve had both in a blind against C923. Certainly not enough to be noticeable. I think both of you (especially Erin), have become absolute proof hounds😂

[@stuffandwhiskey]

Normally we wouldn’t call these thin either if we knew we were drinking them but blinds are brutal. For us, proof drives flavor and finish (in a good way) or heat (in a bad way), but viscosity is altogether different. These were perfect on flavor and had plenty at the proof point which is right within our sweet spot. The lack of viscosity *in relation to how much flavor they had* was a bit of a letdown though. We definitely didn’t make that point well enough in the video.

[@ddurts]

Thanks for saving me a “weak moment” 😉 if I ever see a RR13 - unlikely… but luckily there are tons of good alternatives sitting on the shelf already.

[@matthewslaughter7693]

Have not been able to find an RR13 at anything approaching MSRP, but I was able to find a Disco 11 at just under MSRP, so the whole time I listened to this video, I kept thinking to myself, "please let #2 be the Bardstown!" I still haven't opened the bottle, so I was really excited when #2 was Disco 11. Great show guys! Thanks.

[@jlongshoreman8493]

Y'all are too funny. I'm dying

[@RichardRacks]

Love the double blind format. Very well done video beyond just that though, cheers!

[@tomshanley5405]

would love to see Russells 13 vs Bakers 13. (unless that matchup has happened already, I forget LOL)

[@paulgrace1279]

I don't know Josh - Disco 11 is SPECTACULAR man.

[@johnmorgan233]

Light in flavor profile? hmm I find the Discovery full flavored. What flavors would be dark?

[@stuffandwhiskey]

Great question! Raisins, dates, plums, coffee, barrel char, etc. would all be on the darker side as well as any crème brûlée type of notes.

[@StevenWalt]

Realizing what you said after it's too late. LOL I just can't with you two. 🤣😂🤣😂

[@justinwilliams7637]

I’d like to take this opportunity to publicly apologize for calling Josh “chunky and dim.” If I’m being honest, I’m only apologizing so that Erin won’t fight me.

[@stuffandwhiskey]

😂 😂

[@danielarner1208]

I have a RR 13 batch 5 and a discovery 11. I have blinded both with EH Taylor barrel proof and the Nashville barrel minnick pick. NB was a distant 4. Discover was 3. EH Taylor barrel proof batch 11 was 2 and RR13 was first. The discover is excellent but has a noticeable Jim beam nutty / funky finish.

[@stuffandwhiskey]

That's a great blind! We'd probably agree with that order overall. We've tried a few of the Fred Minnick Nashville Barrel picks, and as big of fans of Nashville Barrel as we are, that's how we've learned that our palates and Fred's palate don't align. We've not personally enjoyed any of the picks he's done with them, while other picks from Nashville Barrel have easily bested bottles like EH Taylor Barrel Proof and Russell's 13 for us. As for Discovery 11 having a Jim Beam nutty profile, the 73% 13 year bourbon in the blend is Wild Turkey and the 21% is Heaven Hill (ECBP), but both of those distilleries and Jim Beam can come across nutty for sure.

[@Sb69minis]

I just caved and bought a RR13 B3 for $275. Honestly a really great bottle and definitely better than my RR store pick at 10yr 6 mos age. No buyer remorse here! It would be interesting if you did the blind with disco 11 and a RR13 batch 2 or 5. Hmmm

[@miked8236]

Great review. With RR10 at $40 locally, I could see the 13 in the $75 area and would pay that. Its still $399 in the few places I've seen it though. Big props to the Turkey fans of the world!

[@davidlubahn4938]

I swapped a JD SBBP Rye for one, I got the short straw

[@nickp5511]

I really enjoy both of these! Store owner friend let me buy both for 110.00 each! So I backed up both:) Cheers!

[@MangoSurferDude]

I wasn't expecting the gutter turn, but it was funny.

[@drgallup]

Got a RR13 for $135, have not cracked it yet. I tend to not get the Disco bottles because there seem to be so many of them and they are all over the place stylistically. Interesting that Disco 11 is 75% 13 year old Turkey. I did not know that, might grab one up. I'm surprised that you thought both of these were thin, I would not expect that from 13 yr old Turkey.

[@stuffandwhiskey]

Same here. We were getting a lot of flavor but the viscosity for the flavor we were getting was thin. That said, we may feel differently on a different day. Blinds are brutal at times.

[@scoobtoober2975]

Thanks for the feedback. 101 all day every day. 101 rye not so much. Haven't heard any raving review of Russell's in general. Across the board. No one is saying, great value for any of those. So just don't buy them. Stop the hype in it's tracks. We need normal prices on things. Wheat'r for 20$ rebel 100. Amazing value. Try it. Just watched 10 reviews of tequila blinds. It has to be blind for me to then buy it. I hate hype and buyers remorse. Go get Ocho Blanco. You will not be disappointed. Minty, citrus pepper, agave lingering, oily, soothing. Romantic. I'm hyping it ok. feel my vibes. it happens. Blind it and re-think and re-taste. That's what happened here with bourbons that claim to be 120$ but used to be $80. Yet sell for $300+

[@johnpaylo879]

Loved this video

[@Abby_Normal_1969]

Never had a Bardstown. Every Russell's I have had has been very thin to my palate.

[@Bourberic]

Was looking for Russels 15 today and saw 13 for $399. Asked dude what would he be charging for the 15 and he said $499. Send the ticks and leeches his way. What the actual hell is going on. Looking for Jack 10’and $249 is the best I have seen. Tried to package deal a Stagg with it for $450 and he passed. Thoughts?

[@stuffandwhiskey]

Sign of the times. It's all in what someone values. Some will spend months of time and hundreds of dollars hunting to get allocated bottles for retail, and those who simply pay the upcharge will certainly save themselves time and maybe even money in the long run, but at the end of the day it's really personal preference. We're not bourbon hunters nor do we tend to pay inflated prices either. Having tried all those bottles you mentioned, the only ones that really merit a premium would be certain batches of Stagg Jr and Russell's 15, but those high prices are still a tough pill to swallow.

[@Bourberic]

At this point I am focusing on the 30 odd bottles I have and a few that I have tried and want a bottle. Luckily, I don’t need to have all the hard to find bottles. Spending some time to taste and evaluate the bottles I have. MSRP in Illinois is not a thing. Need to move I guess lol

[@donnyengell8470]

This one hurts a bit, like a little prick to the heart. Haha. Blinds being Blinds. I absolutely love these bottles and so far RR13 has faired well for me in blinds but haven’t tried Disco 11 blind against anything yet. I was/am comfortable paying $150 for both. Great episode!

[@RicCrouch]

You guys need to do some color processing on your videos. For a few moments there at the 4:30 mark, it looked like Erin's face got REALLY red there for a while, so you may have some camera issues or something...

[@stuffandwhiskey]

😂😂

[@bullseye0112]

It would be cool to see you guys do a blind of Russel's 13 vs 10. Everyone is competitive

[@stuffandwhiskey]

The biggest thing that stands out in blinds for us are wide proof gaps, and 90 proof vs 114.8 proof is a huge delta, so a blind wouldn’t work well. That said, it would be a fun comparison, although we have noticed the quality on Russell’s 10 seems to have slid a bit now that Turkey is releasing older bottlings like the 13 year (but that could’ve just been our last two bottles). If we ever get our hands on a Russell’s 13 at retail we’ll definitely do that comparison on a livestream though and theme it around younger vs older stocks of the same distillate.

[@bullseye0112]

@@stuffandwhiskey I totally get that once you get up into the hundreds 90 just feels kind of thin. The price of whiskey is just slow rolling us right now and to be honest I just can't seem to spend over 60 bucks for any bottle. Beers up a dollar or more per six pack etc. At what point do people just stop buying I wonder? I really liked the Maker's Mark cask strength at I believe 54.4 or something like that. It goes head to head with wild turkey rear breed in my opinion but it is $10 to $15 cheaper at 40 bucks.

[@kamahhl]

I have both and im happy that I paid the premium

[@umami0247]

Yes I’m a big fan of WT and the origin series from Bardstown. However both of these are just over what I’m willing to pay for alcohol. And the Russell 13 I’ve never seen nor do I believe I ever will. The Bardstown I can get from seelbach but won’t because of cost. I’ll stick with what I can find and afford. Like the origin series and Russell single barrel. Enjoy!!

[@tylerboggs612]

I haven’t tried disco 11 but I love RR13 B3

[@davecampbell1430]

4:25 timestamp LOL🤣

[@Roman_Carter]

classic little thingies

[@WhiskyForBeginners]

This has nothing to do with this video. I've had a thought... I've come across some people who say they can, by taste, differentiate between bourbon and Tennessee whisky. I'm no expert on either, but I've tried both, and to me they all taste like bourbon (and indeed, based on all the facts I have, I've concluded that Tennessee whisky is a variety of bourbon, just as high rye and four grain whiskies which conform to the rules of bourbon are varieties of bourbon). It would be interesting to see y'all test that thesis. If y'all could do an episode where you blind taste Tennessee whiskies and regular bourbons of similar proof and price, and see if y'all could tell which was which, that would be mighty interesting. 🙂

[@stuffandwhiskey]

That's a good thought. Let me ponder it. It would need to be a distillery where you could try a whiskey both ways--both bourbon and with the Lincoln county process--and see if you could distinguish the difference.

[@WhiskyForBeginners]

@@stuffandwhiskey I don't know whether there's any distillery which makes some of its whisky with the Lincoln County process, and some without. But you could put George Dickel No. 12 up against Buffalo Trace, for instance. Or you could put a Jack Daniel's bottle against something from Jim Beam (not the black and white labels - I wouldn't want y'all to have to suffer 🙂). Shoot, you could do something really interesting with a three way blind - George Dickel, Jack Daniel's, and George Prichard, and see if the Prichard, which legally is Tennessee whisky even though they don't use the Lincoln County process, is detectable. 🙂

[@doughemi]

This is the 4th recording of the day, isn't it? Erin's a little woozy. Lol. ...I'd love to find me a bottle of Russell's 13.

[@stuffandwhiskey]

😂😂 Just us hanging out and having fun. We actually cap our head-to-head recordings at two max in any given day to avoid getting toasty.

[@BourbonondaBayou]

Got to pull back on that RR13 price. Batch 3 is $90. I just got 2 batch 3s in the last 6 months for a $90 each

[@stuffandwhiskey]

You got lucky. Suggested retail went up to $150 (and we’ve never seen one for less than $300).

[@distlledbrewedreviewed]

Very interesting my friends.

[@444teach]

Speculation, wild turkey is the 13yr juice in the bardstown 11

[@bekind1784]

Light flavored, thin, honey, root beer, etc. I think you guys were off on both. These are full flavored and on the darker side (versus light and thin) of bourbons🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔.

[@stuffandwhiskey]

Funny how things can hit you in a blind. Just goes to highlight that fact.

[@ianreynolds494]

This video was Delightfully off the rails at moments. No notes.

[@GekanS]

Y'all... Josh almost lost it there. Way to recover. You know it's funny when his forehead veins start popping. LOLOLOL

[@stuffandwhiskey]

That vein definitely does pop sometimes. 😂😂

[@swopeti]

the weak moment is as soon as you walk in the store and see the bottle

[@stuffandwhiskey]

😂😂 so true!

[@czrs85]

Better Russell's picks out there over Russell's 13. And I own two Russell's 13. But now own about 13 Russell's picks.

[@877-MASH-NOW]

WHISKEY CHEERS 😎

[@MildTurkey77]

Haha fun episode!

[@brianclick7080]

Man you guys derailed quickly LOL

[@stuffandwhiskey]

Sometimes it doesn’t take much. 😂

[@rajoconnor]

What’s the watch today?

[@stuffandwhiskey]

Reference 14060M Submariner circa 2008. Good eye!

[@rajoconnor]

@@stuffandwhiskey very nice!

[@KennethRathburn]

"I'm honey blind." Get this man some scotch.

[@kamahhl]

Wow you found both thin? 😲

[@stuffandwhiskey]

Blinds are brutal. They had tons of flavor but the viscosity just wasn’t there for as much flavor as we were getting.

[@kamahhl]

@stuffandwhiskey blinds are brutal, I'll give you that haha! I appreciate the honesty.

[@davidlubahn4938]

Disco 11 for the win, not very impressed with my Russell 13

[@Lawnshrooms]

Over 70% of the Disco11 is RR13.

[@davebenson8547]

erin knows bourbon bil😆

[@justinvandee9428]

Do you have a link to the sample bottles you use

[@stuffandwhiskey]

If you seach "2 oz Boston round glass bottles" on Amazon you can find tons of different quantities. We typically order much larger quantities than most would need (72 @ $29 from Veidia or GlassBottleOutlet) but there are lesser quantities and costs out there. We do like to stick with those two sellers for the most part.

[@justinvandee9428]

@@stuffandwhiskey pulp/vinyl seal or poly cone? Cheers 🥃

[@jondilly1974]

There’s good reason why y’all are crying, but don’t worry, the coaching shakeups might bring brighter days this year. Chip Kelly was a big surprise. Nick retiring was a shock. Jim leaving for the NFL was expected. 〽️GO BLUE

[@stuffandwhiskey]

Gonna miss Saban for sure. Kelly as OC is going to be dangerous. Will be interesting to see what happens with your boys. Wild times in college football for sure!

[@markbowerii7632]

Hey guys, just wanted to tell ya'll that your drinking Russell's 13 and Bardstown Discovery 11.🤣

[@stuffandwhiskey]

Mark how dare you!? 😂 Cheers and thanks for watching!

[@MJ-km3qz]

Wow! I can’t believe Josh hates good bourbon like these :( I’ll give him a pass as he did remember the words to help Erin sing todays song ;)

[@Bourbonsouth47]

Just here for comments on this 1 lol

[@IzzosPlace]

Are we really adults? Aging is mandatory. Growing up isn’t.

[@mjc75]

You guys are too cute!

[@brianclick7080]

I am not wearing a shirt that says I am nut blind ROFL

[@stuffandwhiskey]

😂😂

[@dennisorthmann5842]

This video shows that 150 dollars bottles are probably not worth the money. That being said I paid 209 for Joseph Magnus Cigar Blend because I had to have it. Not my best moment but keeping it real.

[@michaelsaylor1970]

🤣