IS E10 SAFE TO PUT IN YOUR CLASSIC CAR?| Down at the barns

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Down at the barns

Down at the barns

Күн бұрын

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@markdavis2475
@markdavis2475 3 жыл бұрын
Happily I can fill up my MGB with E0. I live in Estonia, most of the petrol stations offer E0 at no premium.
@julianday
@julianday 3 жыл бұрын
Got a Morris minor 1968. They are always messing with fuel , it’s a bloody nuisance.
3 жыл бұрын
Got a Van from 1968, ... luckily a nearby farmers tankshop sells ethanol free stuff Hi from The Netherlands btw.
@Cayres9
@Cayres9 3 жыл бұрын
As a kid I remember when 4Star leaded was got rid of around 1990 that caused my dad a big headache as he had to get his car converted to run on unleaded 😭 the govt always making things worse 😭
@nigelbarton8350
@nigelbarton8350 Жыл бұрын
It’s actually quite funny to come back to this and see that as predicted it was all a fuss about nothing. I’ve been running my Stag on E10 since the switch, no problems at all, even after leaving it standing for several months each winter and never getting around to putting any stabiliser in. It started straight up in spring and drives fine, checked the carb out of interest and clean as a whistle. Been running my MGB GT on it too since I finished the rebuild 6 months ago and it’s fine. Bottom line, regular maintenance, change those 20 year old rubber hoses that should have been changed years ago anyway, and it will be fine.
@ReferenceFidelityComponents
@ReferenceFidelityComponents 2 жыл бұрын
Not all is lost! Many E10 fuels are not actually 10% Ethanol. You can test petrol easily to discover what the actual amount is. All you need is a measuring cylinder with at least 100ml of petrol (taken from a can). Add 10ml water and agitate the cylinder for a few minutes then leave for 15 minutes. To see how much water has been absorbed look at the bottom and you’ll see a discoloured band under the fuel. This is the water including any ethanol now dissolved in the water added. Take the reading up to the separation line and deduct 10 ml which is the water added. What you are left with is the percentage Ethanol. So if you have 7ml in 100ml petrol that represents 7%. The E10 rating actually represents “up to 10%” and may not actually be 10%. I run a modern classic bike being a 21 yr old Aprilia with a plastic(nylon) tank. I put Texaco Premium petrol in that because their E5 contains NO Ethanol. Other companies typically contain 2.5% Ethanol including Shell. Texaco’s E10 is less than 10% ethanol (source: several online tests by others). If in doubt just take a sample of petrol and test it. There are no winners where E10 is concerned and calling it “greener” is another damned lie since it is made from high intensity farmed crops, processed using fossil fuels and gets less fuel economy than regular full fat petrol. It isn’t saving the planet and since the UK traffic figures for pollution from CO2 amount to less than 1% of our total emissions annually this E10 nonsense only adds to our problems indirectly. This is what we get by pandering to minority views which seem to drive legislation😢
@thra5herxb12s
@thra5herxb12s 3 жыл бұрын
I've been lucky so far with using E5 in my 1940 motorbike and 1942 Jeep, but I guess it's time to start paying for the super plus brands, especially to leave them layed up over winter. Although I do start and run them for a few minutes every so often.
@cristianseres1353
@cristianseres1353 3 жыл бұрын
E10 arrived in Finland almost 10 years ago, only 98E5 and similar premium fuels have been available for classic cars since then, except Alkylate gasoline which has no ethanol, but is more expensive than premium fuel.
@tonysaberwal8895
@tonysaberwal8895 3 жыл бұрын
I have a VW Westfalia Camper - 1984 Fuel Injected 1.9 L Petrol Engine (Californian Import from USA). I guess I will have to run it on E5 Super Unleaded.
@MyBrilliantChannel
@MyBrilliantChannel 3 жыл бұрын
My 1975 Mini seemed alright on the E10. I was only using it when I was going through a lot of fuel and people were panic buying and it was all I could get. The fuel lines seem to have been changed and the tank is pretty solid. I had it out to change a rubber cone not so long ago. I've had the carb on the kitchen table and cleaned it up after i had been using E10 and it seemed absolutely fine. Little bit of trash in the float bowl but nothing silly. I think all I would worry about is the fuel pump on the engine if it should perish the rubber in that. But I do put some premium fuel in when I can get it. I'll just keep an eye on things and be sensible. If the car was going to be parked up i'd probably drain the system anyway. :) I don't think it's the end of the world. Just if you're not very savvy with replacing the odd pipe or cleaning the carb you're not really deserving of a classic i don't think!
@stumpusMaximus
@stumpusMaximus 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a wee bit more to it than a few bits and bobs. More to do with corrosion and hygroscopic effect of E10. For a start, E10 can dissolve brass components and corrode the fuel tank of an older car. Modern cars tanks are made of a polyurethane type product and thus water condensation isn’t so much of a problem with them. The other thing is unless you keep your classic tank topped up (at least 95%) it will produce more condensation inside and leave it for longer than 28 days plus without burning it down then refilling, then the fun phasing takes place. Whereby the water that’s absorbed by the higher Ethanol starts to split from the fuel and you get a tank with water in it, it sinks to the bottom. Which obviously is drawn into the fuel line/carb and engine resulting in a dead engine. You can also buy an additive for anything up to E85 which will prevent hygroscopic effect - won’t stop condensation though rusting your tank- for up to 24months without the need to drain the tank. It still needs filled to 95% to help reduce the condensation effect. Seen it on Amazon here www.amazon.co.uk/STA-BIL-22205-Fuel-Stabilizer-oz/dp/B002G14VCY/ref=sr_1_36?crid=1504MK5SNTWBU&keywords=e10%2Bfuel%2Badditive%2Bstab-il&qid=1636377418&quartzVehicle=4604-12086&replacementKeywords=fuel%2Badditive%2Bstab-il&sprefix=e10%2Bfuel%2Badditive%2Bstab-il%2Caps%2C61&sr=8-36&th=1 Some more info; How E10 petrol can affect pre-2002 cars Winter worries Higher ethanol content in petrol can make it harder to turn over an engine from cold. Vapour lock Ethanol’s higher volatility can contribute to vapour lock (petrol becoming gaseous) when operating temperatures are higher, causing stalling. Leaks Ethanol’s high solvency can cause problems with many seal and gasket materials that are used in fuel systems, as well as with fibreglass resins. More leaks Besides a risk of fuel leaks, rubbers and resins can get partially dissolved, producing deposits that could foul carburettor jets. Corrosion Ethanol can become acidic and cause corrosion of aluminium, zinc and galvanised materials, as well as brass, copper and steels coated in lead or tin.
@michaelpoplett2745
@michaelpoplett2745 3 жыл бұрын
I use the Castrol Vintage additive on my RR Shadow II.
@No.Handle31
@No.Handle31 3 жыл бұрын
This is like when leaded fuel changed to unleaded. Soon it will be the norm and classic cars will get sorted to work on it.
@GWAYGWAY1
@GWAYGWAY1 3 жыл бұрын
Fibre glass motorcycles are liable to go soggy as the ethanol directly softens the polyester resins and then bubbles the gel coat. Disaster.
@baaf777
@baaf777 3 жыл бұрын
E5 is max 5% ethanol. Some high octane grades are ethanol free despite the E5 sticker.
@stephenoliver1437
@stephenoliver1437 Жыл бұрын
Suggestion what about adding redex to help corrosive problem this is what I’m adding to my 99 boxster will see how it works
@brendancull8316
@brendancull8316 3 жыл бұрын
I recently seen a video where water was added to the fuel, shaken up, left overnight to separate, and the nearly pure fuel was decanted off, alcohol is soluble in water. I can see it being a pain if you are doing this for a full tank, maybe someone can invent a machine to do this with volume in mind, and do it cheaply.
@secularnevrosis
@secularnevrosis 2 жыл бұрын
This is why you use carburetor spirits. You put that strong ethanol in the tank to get the water out with the gas and prevent freezing in the fuel system. It mixes and get carried out and burned.
@leowatkins3718
@leowatkins3718 3 жыл бұрын
If I remember right National Benzines 5 star used to be 104 RON. Old triumph vitesse used to get it, not sure if it actualy went better but we used to tell ourselves it did.
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
I have done a video on how to remove the 10% of ethanol it's easy to do if you can be bothered to do the process
@levelcrossing150
@levelcrossing150 3 жыл бұрын
The government have not done us any favours and we should not have to do this.
@kevinstreet5709
@kevinstreet5709 3 жыл бұрын
Hi guys will doing that effect the octane level
@baylessnow
@baylessnow 3 жыл бұрын
Not driven my classic since 2015 and not going to in the near future it would seem! Can I run my car on Aldi/Lidl whiskey?
@CortinasAndClassics
@CortinasAndClassics 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't tried E10 yet and it worries me a little, Not sure how my Mk3 Cortina will like it. I have already upgraded the fuel lines as a precaution just in case I use the wrong pump.
@alanbayliss6401
@alanbayliss6401 2 жыл бұрын
Mk 3 Cortinas have metal fuel tanks, E10 is lethal for metal tanks and pipes. Your old rubber fuel hoses will dissolve using E10. Fuel pump rubber diaphragm and seals in carb etc will dissolve too. Do not use unless you wash out the Ethanol first. Video on how to do it is on KZbin
@CortinasAndClassics
@CortinasAndClassics 2 жыл бұрын
@@alanbayliss6401 Yes I know about E10 & metal tanks. I am doing my best to avoid the E10 pumps. I have been watching Cortina City on Yt for years and I bought my car from that channel 👍🏻🙂
@georgechecker9262
@georgechecker9262 3 жыл бұрын
So the differance between E5 and E10 is 5% more ethanol. Is this really going to destroy car engines and systems? How much real research has gone into composing a reliable study? Are we all panicking as we did over the introduction of unleaded petrol, and the Millenium? I It seems there are lots of opinions out there, none of which are really consistent. Your expert says, and he may well be right, cars after 2001 up to 2005 are more likely to be affected. We have other experts who say, vehicles after 2011 are suitable for E10 use, then its said that anything carburetted is a no no and that anything injected is ok. Seems to me like the whole industry is guessing, nobody really knows the true outcome. I think if they did, the government website that lists the vehicles that are suitable for E10 use, would be more comprehensive. If your model is not listed then comes the ole cop out ' refer to manufacturer' I too, have a Triumph Stag and Daimler V8. I have on occasion, asked the question months prior to all this, to well known suppliers of parts as to what preparations (if any) are being made with regards to the manufacture of parts suitable for E10. Never really got any definitive answers, which makes me wonder if the classic industry was taking the E10 thing seriously. Perhaps you may know otherwise. I do occasionally get the weeklies which report the warnings but not all the solutions. Does this mean the end of the classic car scene as we know it? What about E10 stabilisers. They must contribute positively towards the degradation process. I understand that fuel and oils that are hydroscopic can and will have a detrimental affect on certain componants, but the way we all seem to be thinking is that failures are imminent, going to take place in the next few weeks. Ok if we fill up with 1 tank of E10 but opinions suggest no more, or dilute with E5 where poss. The immediate problem I can see with using E10 is with the fuel mixture setting being too lean which would become noticeable more or less immediately. I wonder if adjusting the carbs to a richer setting would improve this, combined with fitting E10 compatible fuel lines and using an additive would make the cars usable! I know the Stag has plastic floats fitted in the carbs as standard which eliminates the failure of floats made where the use of solder is used (not sure the same applies to Daimler). ' O' rings i guess are the next thing to fail, the E10 hydroscopic process i guess, but wouldnt the stabiliser prevent this? Bit of a minefield this subject, so many questions to be asked and answered. Will the MOT exemption for classic cars be scrapped now? Cheers
@nigelbarton8350
@nigelbarton8350 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, feels like a huge over-reaction. If tanks are going to corrode why isn’t the 5% already doing that? Same with hoses? Yes you may need to change some rubber parts, but probably parts that are past their use by date anyway. We shouldn’t overlook our American friends have been using E10 and higher for years and their classics survive. As I understand it the biggest issue is leaving it standing it standing for a long period eg winter- so run it low and use a stabiliser. What will happen now is every classic car fuel system malady- even the 20 year old bits that needed replacing anyway- will be blamed on E10!
@thra5herxb12s
@thra5herxb12s 3 жыл бұрын
We should cope with the issues as they appear and add them to our regular maintenance schedules. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6e2kHdqlNF5a7c
@sidneyeaston6927
@sidneyeaston6927 3 жыл бұрын
Just watch American lawn mower repairs, the number of pieces of small machinery thrown away in good condition with fuel system problems due to E10 petrol.
@nigelbarton8350
@nigelbarton8350 Жыл бұрын
Bit late but…mostly those issues are people not following the basic recommendations of not storing them over winter with fuel in, and run the carb out too. If left empty, just add fresh fuel in Spring and they start right up. Never had an issue with any of my garden equipment doing this. I have though scored a number of free or cheap items because of this, needing no more than a flush and carb clean.
@drbassuk1330
@drbassuk1330 3 жыл бұрын
Have a look at the new car fuel cap area... E25
@richardking6066
@richardking6066 3 жыл бұрын
I ran an ethanol mix in my South African MGB for many years. From what I recall, when it was first introduced, some cars needed some chemical treatment - dipping of carburettors etc - to avoid problems. But it certainly wasn't the end of the world. I've driven a thousand miles from Johannesburg to Cape Town and back on the stuff! Epoxy-lining the tank was a 'no brainer' anyway, to avoid it rusting out! BTW Keeping the tank fairly full is a good way to avoid condensation within the tank - but that has always been a good idea with a raw steel tank!
@Classiccarstories
@Classiccarstories 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your contribution 😊
@briandown9672
@briandown9672 10 ай бұрын
Interesting watching your video. I have a Rover P4 and as I was concerned about the effects of ethanol I contacted BP, Esso and Shell to ask whether their E5 fuel actually contained ethanol as I understand that 5% is actually a maximum. Only Esso stated that their E5 premium petrol did not contain any ethanol, of the other two (I can't remember which way round) one said it did and the other wouldn't say so I now always use Esso super E5 grade in my Rover. I also did a test in my everyday Suzuki trying each grade of fuel, 0, 5 and 10% ethanol. Although not by any means a scientific testI found that for every 5% increase in the amount of ethanol in the fuel my petrol consumption increased by approximately 5mpg which served to offset the increase in the cost of the fuel. This was only on local roads not dual carriageway/motorways. Consequently I wonder whether there is actually any reduction in pollution by adding ethanol as higher fuel consumption means more exhaust emissions from petrol. What are other's experiences?
@briandown9672
@briandown9672 10 ай бұрын
Forgot to say that non ethanol Esso super is only available in the south east of England.
@Classiccarstories
@Classiccarstories 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the information 👍
@peterjones1354
@peterjones1354 Жыл бұрын
You can add the additives to neutralise the ethanol like castrol valve plus
@williamkennedy5492
@williamkennedy5492 3 жыл бұрын
I wrote to my tory MP over this green agenda of johnson and the effect of E10 on my 1989 Mercedes SL, plus electric cars heat pumps and hydrogen boilers , he actually wrote back telling me in no uncertain terms he fully supports the governments plans ,there was no room for maneuver on this he will not be getting my vote
@dell5338
@dell5338 Жыл бұрын
Great content. Is there an additive I can use with the e10 to make it safe
@insertnamehere5146
@insertnamehere5146 3 жыл бұрын
I love my classic's too much to stick E10 petrol in the tank. I would be interested to know how much premium E5 the petrol retailers are selling now compared to before the introduction of E10.
@AnthonyLCasey
@AnthonyLCasey Жыл бұрын
I can tell you that my 86 Honda shadow was wrecked by e10, as soon as it switched over it ran low power and over heating issues. In Ireland we only have e10 in the pumps , no other choices . Do any agricultural petrols work like Aspen 4?
@pantherzzz111
@pantherzzz111 Жыл бұрын
Had same problem with a 1981 Suzuki gsx750ex, mind you the E10 was sitting in the tank for a month, bike cut dead and would not start. Asked a classic bike shop in the U.K, they recommend all their customers do not use ethanol fuel, but an R type storage fuel or Aspen 4. Think you can only get the Aspen here in Ireland, will try it myself, no other choice, unless you want to drain E10 from the fuel system after every ride.
@AnthonyLCasey
@AnthonyLCasey Жыл бұрын
@@pantherzzz111 yes, I tried around carlow but people in the agri shops were looking at me like I had 2 heads. Going to keep looking
@pantherzzz111
@pantherzzz111 Жыл бұрын
Just got an email from classic bikes U.K, with an email address in the U.K. that sell, R type storage fuel in 10 litre drums, he thinks they will ship them. Am I allowed to put that info up?
@AnthonyLCasey
@AnthonyLCasey Жыл бұрын
@@pantherzzz111 I hope so, pls share
@pantherzzz111
@pantherzzz111 Жыл бұрын
Put the address up twice, keeps getting taken down.
@Cayres9
@Cayres9 3 жыл бұрын
I tried E10 Absolute garbage , made my car slower and run rough , so I always use super unleaded now but it costs £1.60 per litre now 😭
@TheDude50447
@TheDude50447 2 жыл бұрын
Ethanol is a octane booster and is regularly used in racing cars for better performance. They use E85 as a high performance fuel which is 85% ethanol. Your engine should run smoother not rougher if theres any change at all. Ethanol got just over 30% less energ density which usually results in 1.5 to 2% higher fuel usage.
@Cayres9
@Cayres9 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDude50447 Your right as i watched a show called Gears and Gasoline and they had an Evo on it that kept getting engine knock when they couldn't get enough ethanol at the pumps
@TheDude50447
@TheDude50447 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cayres9 actually theres a law here in germany that says that every petrol station has to sell E5 and E10 fuel with the exact same octane rating. So it generally runs the same in the engine. You got a higher fuel usage though with E10 and since thats generally around the 2% mark you just gotta see if the price difference is worth it between E10 and E5. Up until like a year ago E10 in germany was only like 1 to 2 cents cheaper so hardly anyone bothered with it. Since last year its a 6 to 7 cent difference due to some tax stuff and its worth it now. Check in your cars manual or online if your car can take E10 first then it should be fine. The ethanol in the fuel if its in your tank for months can pull water out the air which does some chemical stuff and it can corrode the fuel system. I personally have run 4 cars on E10 since 2011 including a 1986 corolla for 50000km and never had a single issue with it. I also never noticed anything off with the engine in terms of running between E10 and E5. You might wonder why I was running E10 when i said nobody bothered with it. Well I didnt know shit about it and it was a bit cheaper. I only got into informing myself about it when my current car which i bought last year had something written about "E10 recommended" on the fuel filler cap :D I was like Ive been using that for years :D
@Cayres9
@Cayres9 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDude50447 Thank you for the detailed info my friend
@davidclough3951
@davidclough3951 2 жыл бұрын
Used E10 since I first started driving back in 1988. Now I use up to E30....
@MRVW-32
@MRVW-32 Жыл бұрын
I ran e10 and caused me a lot of problems I've changed everything fuel related and still got problems... =( end of carbed engine now.
@Classiccarstories
@Classiccarstories Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that
@nigelbarton8350
@nigelbarton8350 Жыл бұрын
I doubt running E10 is your main issue, easy to blame it but probably something else going on. I run it all the time in my 73 Stag and 72 MGB with no issues.
@lesklower7281
@lesklower7281 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Australia and we had e10 for about 15 years but we have unleaded 91 95 and 98 the e10 is the chepest 91 and 95 and 98 are a little dearer my wife had a 2004 ford Fiesta and we ran it on e10 once and it was a new car wrecked the fuel pump but then we chaged to 95 or 98 unleaded petrol no problems we never changed the fuel pump in it
@Classiccarstories
@Classiccarstories 3 жыл бұрын
That’s an interesting story seems in some cases no rhyme or reason
@waltdisnenycopyright8048
@waltdisnenycopyright8048 3 жыл бұрын
I have an mg and had to put E10 in it with the fuel shortages, it don't seem to have as much power as the e5 fuel but that might be me
@boilerhousegarage
@boilerhousegarage 3 жыл бұрын
Most E10s are currently E5 and most E5s are ethanol free. I'm testing several brands and will continue to do so for piece of mind for classic car drivers. The price difference will be negated by the lower mpg of ethanol. The mandate effectively made the super unleaded better value for money. I was disappointed to hear you mention EVing classics though.. you may as well just wreck your engines with whatever crap you want to run it on if you think battery power is a good idea!
@chargeheadsuk
@chargeheadsuk 3 жыл бұрын
Great video this!
@Classiccarstories
@Classiccarstories 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you chargeheadsUK please make sure you subscribe 😊
@asa1973100
@asa1973100 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant, thank you
@davidforsdike4343
@davidforsdike4343 3 жыл бұрын
How long would E10 last in winter storage. All my bikes post 2015 but I don't use them for four months of the year ?
@Dave-bu6bc
@Dave-bu6bc 3 жыл бұрын
In an experiment I saw, they stored ordinary e10 for 3 months in a ventilated container, poured some into a bowl, and pointed a butane lighter at it. The stuff didn't burn any more. Same applied with multiple different so-called fuel stabilizers added. I'm draining all my bikes dry for storage now.
@CaddyGary
@CaddyGary 10 ай бұрын
Best advice is to run all classics on super/ premiun unleaded. I run 2 1950s yanks on it & they run good. I wont touch E10.
@stevey-nwas1230
@stevey-nwas1230 3 жыл бұрын
Great info lads 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@Classiccarstories
@Classiccarstories 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you much appreciated
@Clivegsd
@Clivegsd 3 жыл бұрын
Why have people just whinged and accept the introduction of the fuel? I've a 1998 Rover which won't accept this junk and there isn't a station that sells super unleaded within 30 miles. I can't sell it and I can't use it, I don't want a 'modern' car as they are dull and uninteresting to me. Sod the government, I'll get a diesel when I've scraped the money together 👿👿👿
@centaurus5676
@centaurus5676 Жыл бұрын
Russia only use 98 RON petrol, no Ethanol and works out £2.03 per gallon! 4 gallon for the price of one gallon of crap here in the UK! Diesel is even cheaper also! I hate the UK
@Cayres9
@Cayres9 2 жыл бұрын
Add a load of Redex to the tank and it will negate the E10 effects
@jasonbourne7777
@jasonbourne7777 3 жыл бұрын
Ethanol is 30% less energy dense than petrol, therefore vehicles will use more petrol generating more pollution not less; another covert operation brought to us by the usual suspects.
@baaf777
@baaf777 3 жыл бұрын
It also means the price difference between E5 and E10 is less if you look at energy density (E5 = more miles per liter)
@johnelliott9415
@johnelliott9415 3 жыл бұрын
Plus more money for the government that’s why it’s been introduced
@johnkeepin7527
@johnkeepin7527 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnelliott9415 It’s a straightforward tax increase, as the excise duty +VAT is charged per unit volume, not per energy content. So the most efficient type of fuel excise duty wise is diesel. The other effect may be increases in animal feed wheat prices, as that is likely to be the feedstock for some of the ethanol production for the E10 mix in the UK. Might be good for some farmers, though.
@johnelliott9415
@johnelliott9415 3 жыл бұрын
There’s been a bigger problems in Australia with all the boats 🚤 as they have fibreglass fuel tanks it’s been eating away at all this has been a real nightmare. Also remember even another bigger problem and that’s with you lawnmowers chainsaws and other garden implements that has an engines very concerning basically E 10 and even E5 just a higher % of ethanol the problem is it will eat away at many of the engine components. On KZbin there’s a demonstration and what it will do to aluminium plastics rubber components and many more on KZbin as well there’s some guys showing how to remove ethanol it’s basically fiddly but achievable one question if you remove enough ethanol and mix it with 5% this should die loot it and make it less of a problem what’s your views. As far as I can understand this ethanol is lethal stuff. Ow yes one thing is all cars using E10 will find that you will need more as you do not get the miles per gallon so it’s worth sticking with E5 even if it’s more expensive but you will get the extra miles per gallons out of it happy motoring.
@WhiskeyGulf71
@WhiskeyGulf71 Жыл бұрын
Listen carefully, E10 has a maximum ethanol content of 10%, most filling stations are still around 5%. If you are buying super unleaded because of the E content then you are wasting your money. Go and watch Auto Shenanigans video where he samples and measures the top five fuel suppliers.
@alanchase7329
@alanchase7329 3 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't the 5% ethanol that is already in fuel attract any water and cause similar, but slower, corrosion to the 10% ethanol? Why doesn't the 5% ethanol attack rubber in a similar fashion to the 10% ethanol?
@douglasgreaves188
@douglasgreaves188 3 жыл бұрын
E5 is 5% max. Lot of companies were only adding up to 2%. Even on modern vehicles you don't want to leave vehicles stood for months as fuel degradation problems start. Fuel pumps are a target for e10.
@levelcrossing150
@levelcrossing150 3 жыл бұрын
The government have not shown any care here and their actions are unacceptable. The first time we find out about any damage being done is when the car breaks down.
@joeyjennings9548
@joeyjennings9548 3 жыл бұрын
first looking at still pic saw a christmas tree 🎄 im thinking why put gas⛽ in a christmas tree?
@jhndijkman
@jhndijkman 3 жыл бұрын
In the answer to the question as what do I need to do to run E10. For a start who runs there classics or modified cars on low octane fuel. The answer given well guite a lot really fuel lines and some carburettor components. Really is that it. Don't really sound like a lot to me. Fuel tanks, steel tanks not a problem, plastic tanks not a problem. Fibreglass really is that a joke. Is there such a thing?
@DrRobert7898
@DrRobert7898 3 жыл бұрын
My 2015 Toyota has got a steel tank so what about that
@grahamsmith5768
@grahamsmith5768 Ай бұрын
E10 is really bad poor fuel. It also causes engine knock.
@Classiccarstories
@Classiccarstories Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@geoffsmith5563
@geoffsmith5563 Жыл бұрын
Honda civic ep3 Type R 03, I only use E5 was using Tesco momentum not bad, but now use Esso E5 Car runs Really well and Little bit extra mpg.
@philipleigh
@philipleigh 3 жыл бұрын
I've been in touch with W123 World in Swansea about using E10 in an old Mercedes and they say that E10 has been in use in the U.S since 1990 and they know of no problems being caused in any vehicle modern or classic! The plot thickens.
@RebelWithACause-ts7de
@RebelWithACause-ts7de 3 жыл бұрын
Don't believe that ex-postman running W123 World. He talks a lot of SH-1TE
@philipleigh
@philipleigh 3 жыл бұрын
@@RebelWithACause-ts7de Maybe so but I can't see any car maker whose products were being exported to the U.S not upgrading to E10 compatibility across their entire range including vehicles bound for the U.K. market.
@TheDude50447
@TheDude50447 2 жыл бұрын
Ive driven a 1986 corolla for 50000 km on E10 and absolutely nothing happened.
@kingsbury26
@kingsbury26 2 жыл бұрын
Check "The fuel reviewer" on KZbin, few of the fuels contain even 5% ethanol.
@markholroyde9412
@markholroyde9412 3 жыл бұрын
Why are folk smug about running "the good petrol"....I have put it in everything for years, even my old Vitara DD. "I run it on super unleaded"......its not an elite club.
@EdenValleyAdventuresUK
@EdenValleyAdventuresUK 3 жыл бұрын
This sucks
@enfield7123
@enfield7123 2 жыл бұрын
Not another cunning plan to get rid of petrol cars Electric car enyone 🤦‍♂️
@1945gmc353
@1945gmc353 3 жыл бұрын
I remove the ehonol from the petrol ok it costs me but better than nothing
@thra5herxb12s
@thra5herxb12s 3 жыл бұрын
The money you throw away is more than the cost of buying super unleaded that has no ethanol in most parts of the UK according to Esso.
@1945gmc353
@1945gmc353 3 жыл бұрын
@@thra5herxb12s i don't live in UK am in republic of Ireland and its all with e10 plus we don't have esso down here
@John-fo9jy
@John-fo9jy 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched endless vids on E10 but is it just me that's concerned what happens after 5 years when E5 super unleaded is fazed out? This could have a huge impact on our classic cars. I've already noticed E5 becoming more expensive week after week in the UK 🇬🇧.
@AnthonyLCasey
@AnthonyLCasey Жыл бұрын
Already completely faxed out in Ireland and wrecked my 86 Honda shadow
@melvinnorman2463
@melvinnorman2463 3 жыл бұрын
rover 100 metro se run on it its a 1996
@Cayres9
@Cayres9 2 жыл бұрын
Put some Redex in the tank to negate the effects
@tomf4547
@tomf4547 3 жыл бұрын
So thanks to the government in the not too distant future they've ended classic car use!
@Schlipperschlopper
@Schlipperschlopper 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly from 2030 on all combustion cars including classics will be banned from public streets in entire EU and Scandinavia :-( In Germany the Green Peoples Party gave order to shorten fuel supply from 2025 on by reducing all conventional fuel stations to only one state operated central gas station per city or county. Now they want to slow down all the gas station fuel pumps from 20 litre per minute to 2 litre per minute...From 2027 on in the EU certain car spare parts will be banned too....as exhaust systems, turbo chargers and even some engine and gearbox oils...California and New York will do the same from 2027 on.... So no investments should be done in oil burning cars any longer....They even created a new kind of crime here, called "Abgasbespaßung". :-(
@augnkn93043
@augnkn93043 3 жыл бұрын
I've tried to verify your claims but have failed to do so. New sales of internal combustion engine cars will be banned from about 2030. Old cars will not be banned. I'm sure that many fuel stations will close because of falling demand.
@earthman6700
@earthman6700 3 жыл бұрын
I smell petrol from my car. Seals ruined? We'll see.
E10 fuel, will it ruin my car?!!
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