Is Eli Manning A First Ballot Hall Of Famer? | 11/21/24

Dan Patrick and the Danettes discuss whether or not they think Eli Manning should be a first ballot Hall of Famer after the retired 2-time Super Bowl winning quarterback was named as a semi-finalist for the Pro Football Hall of Fame

[@Tprue12]

Just to clarify, Joe Montana was a first ballot HoF. Dan Patrick missed his name.

[@SupaNatural28]

He missed alot of names, he was just making a quick point.

[@michaelgreenwell5007]

If Joe Namath is in the HOF, then just about any QB with a Super Bowl victory on his resume can get in.

[@marcusfrazier20]

Jim McMahon and Ken stabler is like hold my beer

[@unapologetically_masculine707]

Let’s not make this mistake twice. Let’s learns from them and do better.

[@scoynielucas7796]

I say that all the time. The need to take him off fr.😂😂

[@pl1532]

True! Aikman and Bradshaw are also evidence the has been set too low! Those teams were loaded and they just happened to be their QB. Look at their stats!,

[@JoshuaTraffanstedt]

Joe namath changed the game. He went in in a completely different time too.

[@JHTotusTuus]

No…and probably not a HOF at all. Also, he will get in because of his name and because his Defense beat Tom Brady 2x

[@21twix1]

The fact that we're even having this question proves hes not lol

[@JoshuaJames-si3db]

THANK YOU

[@zeeski7454]

Not other guys were first ballot that Shouldn't have been. This is a discussion that should be had

[@dbreiden83080]

The only reason we are having this discussion is because of the time we are living in. Social media and sports coverage 24 hours a day. If his career ended 25 years ago that would’ve meant 20 years ago, he walks in the Hall of Fame with zero controversy.

[@scotte2177]

He was pushed to the giants bc of his lineage. He got hot. He's the basement

[@dbreiden83080]

And as a New York Giants fan, I miss him every day. Those 2 SB Super Bowl runs were legendary. We suck now..

[@uc95nu51]

First ballot: No Should he: No Will he: Yes, eventually. Why? I'm not sure

[@mcleanse1382]

Totally agree, we aren't putting Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson in if they win two. Nothing against Eli but mediocre QB who happened to get hot twice in 20 years doesn't make you a hall of famer.

[@JohnSmith-tk7nt]

if his name wasnt Manning we wouldnt even be having this conversation

[@jeremiahminyard4712]

@@mcleanse1382 if Johnson and Dilfer had a memorable plays in their Super Bowl. We’d look at them differently. To prove my point, what is the first play you would remember in each SB. The most memorable play in each SB. Dilfer- It would be the opening kickoff by Ron Dixon. As for Johnson- It would be one of the Bucs pick-6. As for Manning- It would be his two incredible throws in his GW drives

[@jeremiahminyard4712]

⁠@@JohnSmith-tk7nt That’s not the case, outside of maybe 2 years (03/04 season/ 10/11 season) Eli Manning’s 2011-12 SB run was better than any of his brother’s postseason run. To also prove about bigger moments, name me the best moment in each of Peyton’s SB compared to Eli’s two big throws in his SB.

[@JohnSmith-tk7nt]

@@jeremiahminyard4712 so youre case for Eli manning being a first ballot hall of famer is two throws? One of which was off the top of his receivers head? and youre trying to argue somehow that hes actually better than Peyton? you dont sound smart here at all

[@nathanhighvoltage5259]

At this point the hall of fame is just a nfl museum

[@josephkelley8634]

Jim Plunkett won two SBs, but not in the HOF.

[@leegardner5429]

Yep, 2 Super Bowls, (+) 1 Super Bowl MVP (+) 8-2 Playoff Record, Not Too Shabby.

[@barbaracaroll]

Did he win 2 super bowl MVP or beat an undefeated team

[@nygm984]

PBs - Eli 4 JP 0 SB MVPs - Eli 2 JP 1 Career Finishes All-Time - Passing Yds: Eli 7th JP 21st; TDs: Eli 7th JP 24th Eli carried a bad team to the POs and set multiple 4th Q records in the process; JP did not. Any questions?

[@zeeski7454]

​@nygm984 people also overlook how bad the giants became after the SB46 win, but Eli actually got better if you look at his efficiency stats. I think Eli got screwed from bad management and it hurt his legacy which wasn't his fault. Look at the mess the giants are now, the fact he won anything let alone 2 SB makes him a HOF'er

[@GiveMeLibertyOrGiveMeDeath147]

Plunkett also threw more picks than td's....

[@chrisokeeffe3895]

Eli Manning is not a first ballot hall of famer and it’s insane that we are having this discussion.

[@ThePenitentSquirrel]

Yes, he is, he won two superbowls against the greatest dynasty in NFL history. Your the one be a little emotional brat get over yourself.

[@dbreiden83080]

He 100% is If he’s not I got a list of QB’s need to come out.

[@marcusfrazier20]

@@dbreiden83080like who

[@marcusfrazier20]

@@dbreiden83080Eli wasn’t even the best qb in his division. That’s belong to McNabb and Romo

[@dbreiden83080]

@@marcusfrazier20 The same Romo that never played in a SB? Check his playoff record versus Eli..

[@JBBooks-qv2kp]

Jim Plunkett deserves HOF over Eli Manning

[@robwest2813]

Ha…ok buddy!?

[@nygm984]

PBs - Eli 4 JP 0 SB MVPs - Eli 2 JP 1 Career Finishes All-Time - Passing Yds: Eli 7th JP 21st; TDs: Eli 7th JP 24th Eli carried a bad team to the POs and set multiple 4th Q records in the process; JP did not. Any questions?

[@miketrick4638]

@@nygm984 both have two Super Bowls and mediocre careers

[@RacerXdBrother]

LOL

[@nygm984]

@@miketrick4638PBs - Eli 4 JP 0 SB MVPs - Eli 2 JP 1 Career Finishes All-Time - Passing Yds: Eli 7th JP 21st; TDs: Eli 7th JP 24th Eli carried a bad team to the POs and set multiple 4th Q records in the process; JP did not. Their careers are not comparable period. I will ignore replies from you (now show me how "intelligent" you are and send a response anyway).

[@dannyhantx]

If Eli gets in, the NFL HoF turns into the NBA HoF where everyone gets in.

[@markosekulic119]

You must be new, Nba hall of fame doesn't exists.

[@weswerner4145]

I’m a Packers fan from Wisconsin and agree NFL was so different when Bart Starr played. Two SB MVPs aside, he did win 1966 regular season MVP honors. Led the league in completion percentage and QB rating four times, yards per reception and low interception rate three times. A player who has iconic moments… if not arguably the most iconic moment in the sport. A gentleman off the field his entire life who played with fire and grit while on it. I’m sure humble Bart would be amazed to be in the conversation more than 50 years later and would still credit Coach Lombardi for team and individual success.

[@stingrey1571]

shannon sharpe said it on his own show. "i was good. im in the hall of fame. im not in the same category reggie white, deion, LT etc." eli will get in. he was qb of the team the beat the greatest team ever, TWICE!!!!

[@allday6414]

His career numbers are the definition of average

[@jrg2010]

He’s not a first ballot HOFer especially compared to his peers who recently retired who all have stronger HOF resumes. He’s in the category of eventual HOF but not first ballot HOF. I’m sure I’ll get shredded for that take, but we need to differentiate between slam dunk first ballot HOF and eventual/someday HOF

[@seanguinn]

Who cares what Shannon Sharpe says

[@lewisinnorthcarolina2204]

Dan Patrick is really good, but definitely 2nd ballot HoF

[@cmax8719]

Just don't say Shannon isnt as good as Tom Brady. He would want to fight you lol

[@lenjanssen9600]

Eli was never a top five QB in the NFL in any year of his career..... His performance on the field does not warrant HOF. Hall of very good.

[@flyersfan023]

YES! THIS!

[@zeeski7454]

He was in 2011, he carried that terrible team and was the main reason they got into the playoffs. Both the running game and defense that year were in the bottom 1/3 of the league that year.

[@flyersfan023]

@@zeeski7454 his QBR was 9th in 2011. The original post is correct. Even one top 5 year doesn’t warrant HOF but he didn’t have any

[@dbreiden83080]

Best QB in football in 2011. Made the pro bowl had an MVP level year. Giants made a late push to win the division and then he had another epic playoff run.. Superbowl MVP..

[@zeeski7454]

@@dbreiden83080 he really was, very underrated season and pokes holes in the narrative of the defense being the sole reason he won

[@AriceAroni]

1st ballot? No. But he gets in. You can’t tell the history of the NFL without him.

[@wormbody]

The whole you cant tell the story of the nfl without Player X is such a BS argument….eli manning has no all pros in his play days He is incredibly mid

[@wilcee238]

Winning 2 Super Bowls AND beating a perfect team is mid?

[@ChillHandle12]

@@wilcee238if you judge him outside of those two notorious playoff runs, than yes he was mid.

[@wilcee238]

@@ChillHandle12 He could've lost every game after 2011 and he would still be a Hall Of Famer. No QB the Hall has beat a perfect team in the Super Bowl. He beat Belichick and Brady twice. Moving on.

[@ChillHandle12]

@@wilcee238 What? Your idea of a hall of famer is not consistent elite/dominant play but instead celebrating a good couple weeks of good play? Yes, Eli is a hall of famer, but first ballot is just ridiculous. The man led the league in interceptions 3 times, played mediocre in 4 playoff games where he didn’t make the Super Bowl, never won a MVP/all pro, and was arguably never even the best quarterback in his division outside of 2011.

[@wilcee238]

@@ChillHandle12 That's fair. First ballot? No. Hall Of Fame? Yes. Moving on.

[@artrogue4150]

With only 15 Modern-Era candidates and two Senior nominees each year lets make sure we dont forget some previous deserving players...... Put Joe Jacoby before Eli !! Theres not as many Offensive Lineman as great at Tackle as Joe. Eli will get in eventually, but BIg Joe deserves it NOW !

[@maddogtungate6740]

Joe Namath shouldn't be either. He wasn't that good.

[@Mayamax3]

Agreed.

[@WalterParrett-i2e]

Almost 50 more ints than TDs.. More losses than wins as starter.....enough said.

[@nygm984]

Well if we're leaving Eli out, then from the SB era we should also leave out: Blanda, Griese, Stabler, Bradshaw, Moon, Kelly and Aikman.

[@99somerville]

Namath transcended the sport. He also played in a completely different era. He was a gunslinger when that mattered. No West Coast offense and short passing game back then. Plus the defense was allowed to hit the QB.

[@dbreiden83080]

People that pump up Troy Aikman as this all-time great I don’t think watched him play. It was all about that great cowboy team around him. In 1996 He made the pro bowl and he literally threw 12 touchdowns with 13 interceptions that season. Eli is not better than that?

[@JHTotusTuus]

3:30 Eli wasn’t elite in those Super Bowl runs. He has a few (at most) “good” plays/maybe drives throughout both postseasons. Joe Flacco was actually elite in his Super Bowl run with the Ravens. I don’t think Flacco is a HOF

[@NathanBauman-zj6ip]

Not a hall of famer, period.

[@wilcee238]

Yes he is. He literally beat the perfect team in the Super Bowl. Moving on.

[@Wowowowowowowowowowowowow]

Eli is not a hall of famer. He belongs in the hall of fame, because you can’t tell the story of the NFL without him. But he was not a hall of fame player. The 8 playoff games on their own do not get him there.

[@flyersfan023]

Hall of Very Good. Not Hall of Fame

[@ivantavarez1852]

How do you account for Troy Aikman? Pedestrian regular season numbers but is defined by his post season success

[@flyersfan023]

@@ivantavarez18526 Pro Bowls - must have done something in the regular season. Look at his completion percentage, INT ratio, etc. He didn’t have a lot of yds or TDs because he barely had to throw. But when he did, he was one of the best

[@ivantavarez1852]

@flyersfan023 very misleading if you're just going to say 6 pro bowls. 3 of those seasons including his first pro bowl he threw for 11 td, 10 int in 91, 94 13 td, 12 int and his last pro bowl in 96 12 td, 13 int. He got in on recognition and being able of cowboys but hardly pro bowl worthy.

[@wilcee238]

Eli Manning beat a perfect team in the Super Bowl and won another Super Bowl. He’s a Hall Of Famer. Moving on.

[@blaketindle4703]

Never one of the best quarterbacks of his era. Not even close. Deserves to be in Giants ring of honor but putting him in the pro football hall of fame is up-surd! If his last name wasn’t Manning it wouldn’t even be a discussion.

[@robwest2813]

That's subjective. You can say you think he wasn't one of the best QBs in the NFL but that's an opinion not a fact. Both Super Bowl runs he ran into the NFL MVP on the team with the best record and left with the W. Outplayed 15-1 Aaron Rodgers in Lambeau and 18-0 Tom Brady in the Super Bowl. That matters when you talk QBs. If Eli Smith was 1 of 6 players in NFL history with multiple Super Bowl MVPs he's going to the HOF.

[@nygm984]

He was one of the best in 2011 and was, next to Brady, the best post season QB of his era. Or does the POs not count?

[@OhNiceMatt]

Eli is WEARING 2 of Tom Brady's Nine superbowl rings

[@Springer06-dj4th]

If Eli doesn’t belong in the hall of fame then neither does Ken Stabler or Jim Kelly. Eli won two super bowls against an NFL dynasty and threw for at least 20,000 more yards and over 100 more touchdowns in his career than both of those guys!

[@fredhinckley8630]

This is the NY area media at work. If Eli played somewhere in the middle of the country and had the same stats, he would not even be talked about here. Everyone tries to forget that Eli was benched a couple times because his play was so poor. HOFers don't get benched! These guys act like he won the Superbowls all by himself.

[@artrogue4150]

With only 15 Modern-Era candidates and two Senior nominees each year lets make sure we dont forget some previous deserving players...... Put Joe Jacoby before Eli !! Theres not as many Offensive Lineman as great at Tackle as Joe. Eli will get in eventually, but BIg Joe deserves it NOW !

[@robwest2813]

If Eli Smith had two Super Bowl MVPs against the GOAT, was top 10 all time TDs and yards, held the record for most yards thrown in a single post season and had a 210 iron man streak? Then Eli Smith would be going straight to the HOF! Stop the cap!

[@jctslice]

Peyton Manning got benched

[@ColorsFadeGaming]

It's called the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Statistical Dominance. Eli's two Superbowl wins are iconic. Especially upending the unbeaten Patriots. He's a Hall of Famer, just not 1st ballot.

[@lewisinnorthcarolina2204]

Jim Plunket deserves HoF before Eli Manning

[@ColorsFadeGaming]

@@lewisinnorthcarolina2204 You'll get no argument from me.

[@richardyoo6260]

Ask ernie accorsi

[@markosekulic119]

In your rationality you play for idk 15 years but if you have 2 great years you are in?

[@ColorsFadeGaming]

@@markosekulic119 His "2 great years" as you put it were capped by amazing playoff runs, resulting in 2 Superbowl wins, and dethroning the only other team to go undefeated in the regular season. There are players in the HoF, like Sayers and Terrell Davis, who had shorter careers with amazing, HoF worthy moments. Again, it's not the Hall of Statistical Dominance, or the Hall of Accumulated Stats.

[@PHN-2024]

There needs to be a "Backup" Wing of the Pro Football HOF for Players Like Eli Manning.

[@robwest2813]

“Not a HOF player but will get in” is just a slick way of saying I’m wrong but I won’t admit it. For a guy “not worthy” of the HOF he sure did a lot of Hall of Fame ish!

[@mikek7050]

The NFL is entertainment. Each season has many stories, and stories get remembered. Eli was the driver of one of the greatest stories, and greatest plays, in NFL history. People will remember the helmet catch more they remember half of Brady's Super-Bowls. The 2007 team was the ultimate Cinderella team. Barely got into the playoffs, and had a memorable game against the 15-0 Patriots, almost serving them their first loss of the year. In the playoffs they beat the Cowboys, a team who had already beat them twice that season. Then in the NFC championship game, they went to Green Bay, who had never lost a championship game at Lambeau. And they beat them. Finally they played an undefeated team, and beat them. For that run alone, Eli should be in the Hall. Then in 2011, he did it again. He never got hurt, was always positive, and made receivers better than they were. Maybe not a First ballot guy, but certainly not a 1st floor HOF.

[@MrWCLewis12]

That’s great reasoning….he doesn’t compare to the QBs who were first ballot guys. His name doesn’t even compare to the vast majority of the rest of the QBs in the HOF. He doesn’t belong in the hall. Not even the basement.

[@wilcee238]

Eli Manning beat a perfect team in the Super Bowl. He’s a Hall Of Famer. Argument over. Moving on.

[@AmirKhan-yv8jm]

Hall of very good !

[@m.clarke7212]

Eli shouldn't be in the hall of Fame at all let alone be 1st ballot

[@Mayamax3]

How many QB's won two Super Bowls and aren't in?

[@mickylawless1941]

​@@Mayamax3Jim Plunkett comes to mind!

[@nygm984]

@@mickylawless1941 PBs - Eli 4 JP 0 SB MVPs - Eli 2 JP 1 Career Finishes All-Time - Passing Yds: Eli 7th JP 21st; TDs: Eli 7th JP 24th Eli carried a bad team to the POs and set multiple 4th Q records in the process; JP did not. Any questions?

[@geoffreycoar2762]

You shouldn't be allowed to text on KZbin. Your an idiot if you don't think he belongs in the HOF. Is he 1st ballot,no,but he belongs. The NFL story as a whole can't be told without his 2 superbowl wins.

[@lenjanssen9600]

@@nygm984 His PB's were because better QB's who were all-Pro elected not to play. LOL

[@CD-gk9ix]

Eli is tricky. He has some great career stats, and then some average ones. He had two magical playoff runs, with two incredible throws and catches and comeback wins. Was his defense really good to great during those runs? Yes. So were the 85 Bears, 49ers, and Redskins defenses. Heck, for years and years we said Brady was carried by his defense. I believe one of the points of the HoF is to tell the story of the game, and you can't tell the story of the last 25 years without the Patriots. And, you can't tell the story of the Patriots without Eli Manning and the Giants.

[@nminews670]

Jim Kelly called his own plays.

[@burgercheeeses]

Today I learned Joe Montana was not First Ballot HoF, what the fuck happened

[@marcusjones9084]

The Standard was much higher than.

[@Tprue12]

Joe Montana was a first ballot HoF. Dan Patrick definitely missed him or got his information wrong. But he was first ballot.

[@burgercheeeses]

I tried looking it up and some said he was and some information said he wasn’t so I’m not sure what happened but there’s definitely conflicting information so I see why Dan might of had a list without him on it.

[@Tprue12]

@ He was elected in 2000, which was the 5 year minimum rule after his final game, which was an early 95 playoff game. Also, Joe Montana was for YEARS considered the GOAT at the QB position, before Peyton Manning and Tom Brady came along. So I highly doubt the voters didn’t vote him first time.

[@burgercheeeses]

That’s what’s weird. If you Google it it will tell you he was not First Ballot.

[@matthewjohnson9199]

I'm not sure first ballot, but a Hall of Famer. Two of the greatest throws in the sport's history, a part of arguably the best play in the sport's history, and when he retired, he was top ten in several major passing stats. He's also the statistical leader in a historical franchise like the Giants and a two-time SB MVP. Personally, I think QBs get too much credit and too much blame in team success, including SBs. However, since it seems like SB or bust is how a lot of people view QBs, in this case, Eli is in the former category than the latter.

[@earlmcmanus194]

Love Eli but he's a hall of very good player and to put him on par with his brother(first ballot) is absolutely insane.

[@PhoenixFlamezz]

First ballot? Dude isnt even a HoFer. He is however the most overrated qb in history!

[@swishy4mbg]

Easy, no. Career .500. Not sure he should be in at all.

[@KS-xo3oh]

He beat the Unbeaten Patriots in one of the greatest games, makes amazing plays, one year after his brother won his first Super Bowl. Then beats another dominant Patriots team a few years later. Those two Super Bowl wins are iconic and more than enough to be first ballot HOF. Especially when there’s other players there that never won a championship, let alone against one of the greatest football teams to play.

[@flyersfan023]

So you only need two good postseasons to get in the HOF?

[@dbreiden83080]

With 2 rings and 2 SB mvp’s against the GOAT Yep.

[@samuelrevolus9015]

The HOF is the totality of a player's career. Not just 2 great postseason run. SMH​@@dbreiden83080

[@miketrick4638]

@@dbreiden83080glaze

[@wilcee238]

@flyersfan023 If one of those seasons is literally beating a perfect team in the Super Bowl? Absolutely.

[@bigbee225]

Over 57,000 yards, 366 TDs, 210 straight starts, 2 SBS, 2 SB MVPs, over 30 4th quarter comebacks, in the playoffs he beat Romo, Brett Farve, Matt Ryan, Aaron Rodgers, Colin Kapernick (when he was cooking) all on the road and beat Tom Brady 2x. Thats a hell of a resume if you ask me. Definitely a HOFamer, should be first ballot.

[@ussfury13]

No he is not and not a Hall of Fame player period. In what season did he win an MVP when was he a feared QB putting up great record breaking numbers. He never was he was an Above Average QB for his Career who won 2 SB a reminder Bruce Johnson, Trent Dilfer, Joe Flacco all won SB as well. If Eli is an HOF then just go ahead and put in Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell cause you should just let any player who touched a field in.

[@nygm984]

If you are saying that Russell, Leaf, Johnson, Dilfer or Flacco had comparable careers to Eli - you don't have a clue. You're just throwing names out without looking at their stats/awards.

[@XTEX]

I don’t think he’s a Hall of Fame player at all

[@silentsportsandgaming83]

I never understood 1st ballot Hall of Famer.....either you a Hall of Famer or your not 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@13mrservon]

No. Not first ballot. But a hofer.

[@jamescaine5582]

absolutely not. only 4 pro bowls? Peyton had like 15. Never lead in any meaningful statistical categories' and was an average qb.

[@robwest2813]

2 Super Bowl MVPs, holds the record for most yards thrown in a post season, clutch AF! 100 percent HOF!

[@paulcrewe3325]

Glad they mentioned Rodney Harrison! How he has been kept out of the hall is beyond me? His post season performances were incredible

[@TMarkey009]

He is top 11 all time in the major categories, was an iron man, 2 time Super Bowl mvp. He is absolutely a first ballot hall of famer

[@barbaracaroll]

He was top 7 when he retired

[@flyersfan023]

That’s more because of the era he played in and not because how good he is. He wasn’t top 3 in his era, probably not even top 5

[@TMarkey009]

@@flyersfan023 you don’t need to be a top 3 or 5 of your era to be in the hall. Look how many great QBs in the late 80’s and 90’s are in. Montana, Moon, Elway, Young, Kelly, Aikman, Favre, Marino. Eli has the stats and the Super Bowls. It’s a done deal.

[@flyersfan023]

@@TMarkey009those other guys were at least top 3 to 5 in the league a handful of years. He never was. The only one on the list you gave that doesn’t have at least 5 Pro Bowls AND one AP No. 1 is Moon, who has 9 Pro Bowls. Eli has 2 legit Pro Bowls (the other 2 he was picked as a replacement) and was never AP No. 1. He’s a a Hall of Very Good. The 2 Super Bowls and his name will blind the voters

[@nygm984]

@@flyersfan023 Moon and Kelly were top 3 to 5 only twice (if your including all their stats) and were bad post-season QBs (Kelly more so than Moon). Aikman was never a TOP 3-5 QB period (unless you cherry-pick his stats).

[@RacerXdBrother]

You cannot talk about the greatest SBs in history without talking about Eli's performance in them. Why do personal stats matter, Eli was hands down the outmost pro and teammate. 1st ballot!

[@mikehernandez6024]

Time to post my favorite stat again: Peyton, regular season passer rating: 96.5 Peyton, playoff passer rating: 87.4 Eli, regular season passer rating: 84.1 Eli, playoff passer rating: 87.4

[@CharlieTWilbury]

Passer rating? Seriously? lol...

[@Hoodlum728]

Jim Kelly 1st ballot ?? Not Eli?

[@junksly8867]

How is Joe Montana not on that list he read of actual first ballot Hall of Fame QBs?!?

[@markula_4040]

Calm down. Sheesh. I'm sure it was just an oversight because Joe did get in on the first ballot like he deserves.

[@PhilBeckman-rn6sx]

Beating that Patriots superteam is enough alone to put eli manning in the hall of fame.

[@geeserman]

He's not a hall of famer. He was never one of the best to ever play the position. The Giant's defense beat Brady, Manning didn't. Put the Giant defense into the hall of fame, not Manning.

[@dbreiden83080]

Statistically the Giants were one of the worst defenses in football, both seasons. Look it up.

[@geeserman]

@@dbreiden83080 It would seem they were good enough when they needed to be.

[@dbreiden83080]

@@geeserman Got hot in the playoffs absolutely.

[@REE_III]

NO!! He is not even a HoF QB!

[@phillipweber6059]

Better question: Is Jordy Nelson a HOFer?

[@georgelamie7001]

No. For me, not a Hall of Famer at all

[@jiggyjay682]

First day with a keyboard boy ?

[@nathanstar2000]

@@jiggyjay682Hey Lil boy go cry

[@artrogue4150]

With only 15 Modern-Era candidates and two Senior nominees each year lets make sure we dont forget some previous deserving players...... Put Joe Jacoby before Eli !! Theres not as many Offensive Lineman as great at Tackle as Joe. Eli will get in eventually, but BIg Joe deserves it NOW !

[@clown2franklin]

If Joe Namath is in the hall of fame then Eli Manning should be in . Namath Through more interceptions than touchdowns and 1 only 1 Super Bowl. Eli is first ballot.

[@nathanstar2000]

@ Namath shouldn’t even be lol

[@Zekers87]

Yes Eli is a first ballot HOF, I'm an eagles fan I'll even admit it. I heard it once can you tell the story of the game without him. No you cannot, he also beat the greatest dynasty of all time. He was the Superbowl MVP twice. Just put the man in

[@gregstraz395]

When are you coming into the shop

[@tunnelrat78]

Eli never got credit from the media. If Eli had a silver tongue people would love him. From 2008 thru 2012, Eli played dominant football at an elite level. Never got any respect back then either. He literally carried the Giants throughout the 2011 season with an injured defense and a porous offensive line. He put up huge numbers in 2014 and 2015. He would have had another playoff run in 2016 had Odell Bekham and the rest of the Boat Crew not dropped every single pass thrown at them. Edit: speaking of prima donna wide receivers, the2008 team was the most dominant Giant team ever until Plaxico literally shot himself, and the team, in the foot. Thanks Plaxico.

[@seanguinn]

No

[@gpc_4279]

Make Eli a first ballot hall or famer so the sports shows have something to talk about forever.

[@markula_4040]

"He beat the Patriots" Technically but the Patriots scored a total of 31 points in those 2 Super Bowls against the Giants. Eli doesn't get credit for that. His defense does. Now if he gets in, I'm fine with it even on the first ballot because in both those Super Bowls Eli had an incredible throw that if incomplete, the Giants lose. But I'm also ok if he doesn't get in. He's not a slam dunk candidate.

[@garysmith3991]

He's getting in

[@Docmain3]

Two time SB Four time PB 7th in both Passing Yards & TDs If Bradshaw is in so is Eli.

[@morganmckinley7946]

HOF discussions almost never bring up the most recent aspect: *What are the criteria for HOF? There are various factors, some are more important than others, but this 10 minute conversation completely ignores it.

[@chriscarter7371]

They say your legacy is made in the post season….2x superbowl MVP. If he’s not a first ballot HoFer then the post season legacy talk goes out the window forever.

[@barbaracaroll]

Troy aikman was a passenger has no signature wins while Eli has a bunch

[@dbreiden83080]

Thank you. The narrative that Troy Aikman was some great quarterback is all about his three Super Bowl rings. And Eli has two rings. Take a look at some of Troy Aikman seasons they are incredibly pedestrian even for the time he played in. He had 1 of the best offensive lines ever, and one of the best running backs ever. He spent a great portion of his career, simply handing the football off.

[@jamesmorrissey2297]

Simple no Jim Plunket, no Eli Manning.

[@nygm984]

PBs - Eli 4 JP 0 SB MVPs - Eli 2 JP 1 Career Finishes All-Time - Passing Yds: Eli 7th JP 21st; TDs: Eli 7th JP 24th Eli carried a bad team to the POs and set multiple 4th Q records in the process; JP did not.

[@jamesmorrissey2297]

@nygm984 JP ROTY, Heisman

[@nygm984]

​@@jamesmorrissey2297Heisman has ZERO to do with the NFL. It's the NFL HOF, not the college HOF. ROY doesn't outweigh 4 to 0 PBs.

[@sherlockholmes9938]

Dan Patrick.."I won't have Eli on and ask him about his HOF worthiness. Dan patrick show...We'll put it on our show and KZbin channel

[@JoshuaTraffanstedt]

Eli was an iron man. Eli could win any game any sunday and thats a fact. Very few qbs can say either of those things. Im a cowboys fan and eli had me screaming at the tv in rage more times than i care to admit. I think Eli definitely deserves a spot in the Hall of fame.

[@mark11967AD]

Championships and rings are king. Ask MJ. You win multiple championships as the guy and you’re in.

[@anthonylemanski9032]

As a giants fan I say he gets in on the superbowl wins alone. He was on teams that beat the patriots twice. Once in their pinnacle of their prime and one they stole. He gets in for that alone. No other reason. Those playoff runs were great and big time runs. He beat Brady(2X) farve an Aron Rodgers team ghay wasn’t undefeated only because they say their starters the last time the cowboys were of any relevance beat Marty ice in what was him Prime and it goes in. That is a HOF resume.

[@lmswentzeljr]

Eli's regular season stats are average .500 regular season record, the reality is those 2 SB wins are iconic, he is going to get in because of those 2 games.

[@MrSilus2000]

There should be a regular season HOF and a playoff HOF.

[@jslane41]

Ah, yes... The lovely picturesque views of Canton, Ohio...

[@stevemakoskijr8074]

If Namath is in, than Eli is in. It’s the Scott Rolen effect.

[@jonjohnson4388]

Eli and Rodney Harrison should go in the HOF in the same class!

[@trevormiles4952]

Agree 100 with Dan!!

[@HruVision]

Good points but in NYC 🗽he’s one of the goats 🐐 first ballot or not Hall of Fame🫡

[@michaelmorrissey2248]

Was Montana first ballot?

[@buster60341]

I wasn't a Eli Manning fan when he was a player in the NFL and he isn't a 1st ballot hall of famer but he will get in as a 2nd or 3rd ballot because of his last name, he played in NYC the media capital of the world and his Giants team beat the Patriots twice in the Super Bowl

[@sherlockholmes9938]

Eli is a King of New York

[@chrissinclair4442]

Eli is undefeated in Super Bowls, all of which where against Tom Brady.

[@foggy561]

Life long Giants fan and I dont think you can give Eli the nod in his first year. He was lights out in 2 playoffs and managed to beat possibly the greatest team of all time in the biggest game. Yet his inconsistent play during the rest of his career should hold him back at least a couple years.

[@wilcee238]

You forgot the other Super Bowl he won.

[@nygm984]

I guess you forgot about the 2011 regular season when he carried that bad team to the POs.

[@foggy561]

@@nygm984 Stay out of my comments. you are sped

[@RobertBalto]

Luke Kuechly is first ball, put him in Antonio Gates SHOULD'VE been first ballot, put him in Apart from that...nobody thrills me who is eligible for this class. Maybe clear some of the WR log-jam and put a couple of them into this class. My suggestion would be Tory Holt and Anquan Boldin...though you could probably make a case for Steve Smith Sr. too

[@Bandana_Boi]

Without question yes.

[@billstrat2917]

HOW can Joe Montana not have been a first ballot hall of famer? 2nd GOAT.

[@TimPerdue-n8w]

Why didn't you ask eli when he was on the show

[@thethreeofus2620]

Jim Plunkett of his era.

[@robwest2813]

Jim Plunkett never held the title of GOAT slayer!

[@nygm984]

PBs - Eli 4 JP 0 SB MVPs - Eli 2 JP 1 Career Finishes All-Time - Passing Yds: Eli 7th JP 21st; TDs: Eli 7th JP 24th Eli carried a bad team to the POs and set multiple 4th Q records in the process; JP did not.

[@dantheman8152]

You shouldn't have to ask! But Eli will get in at some point.

[@user-Calrulk55]

He wasnt even considered a HOF player 5 years ago and now its a conversation if he is first ballot ? wtf man he was mid who won a couple of SB's.

[@OhNiceMatt]

Jim Plunkett won a Superbowl for the Raiders and is not in the HOF

[@nygm984]

PBs - Eli 4 JP 0 SB MVPs - Eli 2 JP 1 Career Finishes All-Time - Passing Yds: Eli 7th JP 21st; TDs: Eli 7th JP 24th Eli carried a bad team to the POs and set multiple 4th Q records in the process; JP did not.

[@Mayamax3]

Watching Jim Kelly run the K-Gun was must see T.V.

[@arisketch9247]

I don't know about Eli, but Chad Powers is a shoo-in

[@Giants83]

Game winning drive..... Undefeated team.... Superbowl..... HOF hear I come!

[@pl1532]

NO! Bradsahaw, Aikman and Namath are proof that the bar for the HOF has been set low, so Eli will get in eventually.

[@cmillertime7477]

I don't listen to this show much and with dumbass topics like this one I'll probably keep it that way. Daniel Jones has had two seasons better than most of Eli's entire career and he was recently benched. Eli's family name carried his career, he should have been benched a full decade before he was. He doesn't deserve to be in the HoF based on his play, but he'll get in simply because of the two SB wins.

[@Tom-jl9wt]

2 time SB mvp and his playoff stats are sick

[@robwest2813]

Sshhh! These people don’t want to talk about his playoff records or stats! Doesn’t fit the opinion that he wasn’t elite!

[@MrWCLewis12]

Tyreeks helmet can be in the HOF.

[@ryanbain618]

What about Kirk Warner? How did he get in the Hall?

[@wayneegli8379]

1. Kurt Warner was a 3rd ballot HOFer. 2. Kurt owns over 10 NFL records (still) 3. Kurt took 2 different teams to the Super Bowl 4. Kurt wins 2 of 3 Super Bowls if the Wide Receiver runs the right route. 5. Kurt was an Arena League legend.

[@rickmoss6421]

Hell no!