'IT'S NOT A LOCK!' 🗣️ Stephen A. says Eli Manning is NOT a 1st-ballot Hall of Famer 😳 | First Take

[@30kQuay]

Y’all should’ve had MadDog for this one😂😂

[@rahmoxworld]

Yup he would go historical on them 😊

[@ShiftWork24]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 i need to hear that!

[@dcwSentinal]

The fact that it is a debate means he is not a 1st ballot

[@theblinkerx]

Perfectly stated. 1st ballot is for guys that are slam dunks. Eli aint even a HOF if were being real

[@bgstv10001]

​@@theblinkerxagree

[@Disxreet]

@@theblinkerx💀💀💀 why tf not? If Namath is in there why tf wouldn’t Eli be in?

[@unbrokendredgen4160]

@@theblinkerxas an Eagles fan I gotta disagree he definitely gonna be a HOF but it ain’t gonna be 1st ballot tho

[@theblinkerx]

@@Disxreet because i watched Eli every sunday in real time. Hes not a HOF hes only being considered because of who his brother is

[@patrickcrosson3990]

What Stephen A said wasn't wrong. He is 100% right

[@michaelyoung9628]

10000% right

[@Twiist585]

He ain’t right, he hating. Why does he keep trying to discredit Eli with regular season stats why everyone talks about your judged on what you do in the playoffs ? He never led the league in TD, pass yards or comp %(in the REGULAR SEASON) he still holds the record for most yards in a single post season run. He led the league in int 3 times well he had a 15-2 td/int ratio in his 2 Super Bowl runs. That’s just hypocritical for him to say Arron Rodgers is a 1st ballot with minimal post season success but discredit Eli for his short comings in the regular season. Which one is more important?

[@edd06001]

Nah. If anyone knows this team it's that they are horrible at putting offenses together. Eli would have easily had a better win loss record with any other franchise that knew how to put a team together.

[@icetray2727]

@@Twiist585 so apparently speaking facts is hating now

[@trinlee7267]

@@Twiist585 with literal numbers he hating man stfu 😂😂😂😂

[@dvnhrs]

The level glazing Molly is doing for Eli is embarrassing

[@shinister9720]

Still has more sb mvps than Payton

[@tedster4939]

@@shinister9720who cares. He’s likely a hall of famer but he’s the furthest thing from a lock of a 1st ballot.

[@Disxreet]

@@tedster4939Namath was a 1st ballot.

[@tedster4939]

@@Disxreet yeah in the 70s…. There’s a much larger pool and standard than there was in the 70s.

[@1of9everytime38]

Th÷ all time leader in interception was a 1st ballot HOFer

[@agentcodybanx8909]

Saying hes a lock is laughable, be real now

[@coliniturralde2373]

Name all the players who’ve won 2 Super Bowl mvps

[@The_ch0sen0ne5]

@@coliniturralde2373Arron won 1. Does that take away from his chances of being first ballot? Compared to Eli who been average for nearly majority of his career?

[@coliniturralde2373]

@@The_ch0sen0ne5 aarons a perfect example of showing how hard it is to win 2 super bowls. He hasn’t been back.. we talk about how much championships matter. And he led his team to TWO Super Bowl mvps

[@ph01978]

@@coliniturralde2373 The defense won those 2 SBs and an argument can be made that Eli won MVP in those games is because he is the QB and his last name is Manning. It's not like Eli scored 30 points. Not even high 20s. "Name all the players who’ve won 2 Super Bowl mvps" is not an argument. That implies that it trumps everything. In other words, had Eli went 50-200 and led the NFL in INTs 12 times, the fact that he won 2 SBs makes him a lock 1st ballot HOF.

[@MattnCam0408]

If brady is a lock so is eli

[@someguy9301]

That Jeter comparison wasn't good.. Jeter was an all-star 14 times. Although he never won MVP, he was in the top 3 in MVP voting 3 times.

[@Nero__Morte]

Jeter's defense was mediocre at best. He wasn't as great as people like to think.

[@wildx5634]

If beating Tom Brady/Bill Belechick in a Super Bowl is all you need then put Nick Foles in right now!!!

[@kylerafferty4797]

This is such a stupid comment 😂

[@vaheed7518]

Yes, like how Brady stans say Mahomes will never be the GOAT ONLY because he lost to Brady.

[@SamirSmith-x4x]

No he did it twice 4 years apart that’s hard to do which is why I say Tom is the goat he won 3 then a whole nother 10 years goes by and he grabs another one and got 2 more after that when u do it in any shape or form your immortal to the football world but doing it with a entirely different team then your first is All time that should get him in

[@Hydepop19]

Uhh he was also an iron man that is top 10 in yards in tds all time haha

[@mattbraga4033]

​@@vaheed7518Which is true.

[@user-xo7go4rr7g]

Why Eli isn’t first ballot : 117-117 career record 6 Playoff Appearances in 16 Seasons. Both 2007/2011 are his total playoff wins (8-4 record) all time. Those 2007/2011 SB winning teams analytically are the worst SB winning teams of all time. Lead the league in interceptions three times 0 all pro / MVP consideration. Only 4 pro bowl appearances in 16 seasons. Why he isn’t a first ballot but a HOF player at minimum : Beat the 16-0 Patriots to win SB 2007 Beat Tom Brady again in 2011 Part of two of the greatest plays in recent NFL history (Helmet Catch, Manning To Manningham) Both SB Playoff runs were against several all times great teams Is considered analytically one of the clutches QBs of his generation. 11th In Passing Yards (57,023) 10th In Passing TDs (366)

[@JohnOMalley-c6s]

You can argue though he only won those 2 super bowl rings because of his defense.

[@Telly26]

@@JohnOMalley-c6sTrue, especially in 2007, however, in 2011 Eli did look like an elite QB. He led the league in game-winning drives. That 2007 year I do feel like he does deserve some more credit. I put him ahead of the likes of Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon (QBs I feel only have rings due to their defense). I do agree with the notion he’s not first ballot but definitely deserves a nod at the HOF.

[@nick56677]

Another reason he isnt: He isn't the best QB drafted in the 2004 draft, Ben was. Luckily for Eli, they didn't retire the same year.

[@joshwalker5018]

⁠@@JohnOMalley-c6sdefense doesn’t make that insane catch. It’s a team game, by that metric defense deserves credit for half of Brady’s SBs

[@newagain9964]

Welp. If Rivers is a HOF then why not Eli and everyone else?

[@gocards2369]

Eli Manning has never been a all-pro nor a mvp candidate

[@Disxreet]

Namath

[@freddieflores8881]

People will just lean on his SB victories. They won look at his win loss column, his TDs vs INTs or his percentage for throwing. He's not a 1st RD HOFer but his name will give him that edge

[@gocards2369]

@@freddieflores8881 and that’s wild because if Eli Manning gets in then that should open the gates for a lot of other quarterbacks to get in. Eli was never top 5 at his position, maybe not even top 10…but it is what it is

[@nfsking27]

Exactly. He's a HOF theres absolutely no debating that. 1st ballot? Nope

[@nfsking27]

​@@gocards2369he's going in. But 1st ballot is a bit much

[@barnwezzy4673]

The difference between 1st ballot & Second ballot is Exactly how SAS explained it. Peyton & ELI. It’s a clear difference how we view them but they have the Same amount of super bowls.

[@MalikF15]

Lol how many MVPs or all pro selections? Does Eli have?

[@kingofhaiti123]

Eli was too inconsistent to be a 1st ballot HOFer

[@Killa_Kamz]

7th in yards and 8th in touchdowns as well holdding all of the zgaints passing records plus is not inconsistent enough to not be a 1st ballot HOFer.

[@toptiertech7291]

Ah. But Joe Namath throws 173TDs to 220 interceptions with a 50% completion percentage and he’s called one of the best

[@kingofhaiti123]

@Killa_Kamz let's be fr tho, having a 118-118 record for a career isn't 1st ballot material it's just not, eli had some great playoff runs no doubt, but the totality of his career def wasn't great

[@aopmark2438]

To even be a hof

[@spade565]

​@Killa_Kamz he's a mid starter, literally, has the same amount of wins as well as losses. Never has he been considered the best or one of the best QBs that have played. Outside of the two superbowl runs, he has never helped his team progress in the playoffs. He's going to the hall of fame but he's definitely not a first ballot hall of famer

[@chitweak18]

Molly's Giants fandom is showing. God shut up Molly.

[@Luke-rq5oj]

Stephen A right

[@djedman10]

I'm sorry but go ahead and look at first ballot Hall of Famers list... Eli does not belong at all.

[@vaheed7518]

He beat Brady twice. That's all you need to know.

[@djedman10]

@vaheed7518 the fact that this is your only argument, means he's not a 1st ballot.

[@craigderby4416]

Eli is the goat

[@lukeskywalkermod3686]

@@vaheed7518and nick foles beat Brady in a Super Bowl too. Your point?

[@BrandonSchuldtDropclutch]

@@djedman10 Eli makes this conversation hilarious

[@InvestBetter.]

I think Eli Manning should be a SECOND-year inductee, not First-Ballot First-ballot should be reserved for the Tom Brady's, the Deion Sanders, the Walter Payton's of the world Eli had two seasons where he over-achieved, which is one more season than Joe Flacco Winning 2 Super Bowls, and owning Tom Brady, definitely gets you in, but let's calm down.....

[@kobegoodall3444]

What stats are Joe Flacco top 10 in?

[@selwynandrews7716]

Do more research on Eli. His first year as a starter he was top 5 in TDs and yards. Yall dismiss everything but the 2 SB runs. He's a first ballot HOFer, his resume speaks to that

[@Artbyartcreates]

Yes

[@theblinkerx]

He shouldn’t be in at all. The hall of fame should be reserved for the elite of the elite. Not whoever beat the Elite of the elite

[@NEOs_Hyper]

Because the goal is to win the superbowl. Every year that is the Goal. And at the end of it all, it's the main thing that matters. ​@@selwynandrews7716

[@wildx5634]

Joe Flacco is not a Hall of Famer. And the difference between Eli and Flacco is David Tyree's helmet

[@joseromero81]

Nope. He won two SB MVP. Flacco has not.

[@cleanfire2948]

what a dumb comment

[@sabaslopez8573]

Molly is in her feelings, lmao! The 2nd they go against what she says she gets upset! 🙄🙄😅🤣

[@dwahndenson6385]

😁😁 Most women do

[@mikeburr114]

Women aren't rational thinkers... They shouldn't vote or discuss sports

[@Godwin420]

idk if its even that as much as it seems she gets off on being counter-point to every opposing view SAS has, lol.

[@lees5953]

Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, and Joe Burrow are all better with no rings than Eli y’all being bias. His stats are trash. If stats doesn’t matter why bring them up with other quarterbacks. 😂

[@TheJohnmusk]

Who's got the great stats...Aaron Rodgers? He's 1-4 in NFC championship games.

[@vTrueDad]

Adding Burrow in there is a stretch

[@cleanfire2948]

so good they all have 1 superbowl appearance combined

[@Zeus0886]

He is top 10 All-Time in QB stats

[@Southeren]

Eli Manning is a Hall of Famer but I can understand the argument of him not being a first ballot HOFer. If only Deion Sanders was in on this discussion. He probably would be all for Eli getting in ASAP. With all of that said, I don't think that getting in to the HOF is as prestigious as it used to be considering who has been inducted in recent years. Which adds on to why Eli is a HOFer in general.

[@ShawnoCat]

#FireMolly she’s soooooo irritating

[@lestergarcia247]

Amen 😂

[@Godwin420]

YES PLEASE.

[@BraandonTV]

This has been a convo for like 8 years , not happening sadly 😂

[@hoodie5004]

She’s hot tho

[@CrisisGS]

She makes this show hard to watch.

[@mattgibney4085]

Smoking straight crack, Eli should be in the HOF but first ballot is delusional talk. Shannon would agree with this 120%, he’s always said there’s levels to the HOF

[@JohnOMalley-c6s]

If the only reason why Eli should be in the hall of fame is because he beat tom Brady then so should nick foles

[@mattgibney4085]

@ yup, that argument literally gets debunked by all sort of other QBs that should make it by those standards as well. Rivers is a better QB than Eli but because of 2 Super Bowl runs now he’s an all time great? First ballot? Yea delusional

[@ShawnoCat]

Can the girl from nfl live be the host of first take ??? I think she’s a better fit

[@gsf23]

So two good seasons in a first ballot hall of famer?

[@patd2331]

Fr like wat Lmaoooooo

[@vaheed7518]

Beat Brady twice. Enough said.

[@marsgordeuk]

@@vaheed7518well put Nick Foles in the conversation.

[@sbp69]

@@marsgordeukonly beat Brady once. And foles isn’t top 11 all time in several major qb stats like Eli manning

[@theblinkerx]

@@sbp69the HOF should be reserved for the Elite of the Elite not whoever beat the elite. The only QB from 04 that should get in is Big Ben

[@justinpelletier03]

Molly is having her emotions get the best of her like she usually does

[@dantemiles4809]

He’s a Hall of Very Good not a Hall of Famer

[@coliniturralde2373]

He’s one of the most clutch qbs in playoff history.. if he didn’t win 2 mvps he wouldn’t be considered but he did

[@timdarnell7819]

I wouldn't even say hall of very good. I'd say hall of mediocre. He's the most overrated QB of all time.

[@vTrueDad]

The fact Stephen A is debating Molly over everyone else at the desk is such a glowing red problem that cannot stop being ignored. She’s HOSTING not DEBATING

[@ChaseGosselin-z5f]

Alot of Eli Mannings teams were not good enough like Brady and Peyton

[@lukeskywalkermod3686]

doesnt change his own stats and he was carried by his defense to those rings as much as he carried his defense

[@Phillygoat1983]

If prime time said he aint first ballot then he aint first ballot foh lol

[@selwynandrews7716]

Prime time don't run the HOF, foh

[@jacobmoore126]

Didn’t realize you gotta rely on someone else to make your opinions for you

[@InfiniteHaters]

Wow i didn’t know Deion worked for HOF and has a voice in it😂. Great analysis

[@DanielLaRusso-e7j]

What about the two long term employees (locker room for 30 years) ELI threw under the bus? FBI investigation for FALSE game worn merchandise. Eli got millions of dollars while the two locker room employees got walking papers? F Eli! 👎

[@JohnOMalley-c6s]

I mean Prime Time is a HOFer

[@allonisaacs8765]

It's not Eli's fault that the Giants failed him in the second half of his career!

[@jerrytshipamba1762]

Or he failed them even when he had odell

[@allonisaacs8765]

@jerrytshipamba1762 um the giants receivers could not catch anything in the playoff game against green bay.

[@mohamad4257]

Odell trash. Had one catch

[@fullmetal1766]

Eli isn't a first ballot hall of famer he isnt a hall of famer in any way

[@Zeus0886]

Exactly. He played on some bad teams. In 2008 he had a chance for 3rd ring and Plaxico shoots himself. They were 10-1. They had earth, wind and fire with two 1000yr rushers during the same season.

[@mattr27]

Can't be a hall of famer based on just two months of great play. Sorry.

[@capcomfan82]

He would be a first ballot if they won some games in his last 3 seasons or so. The team was terrible and he started ruining his win loss ratio. He still gets in, 2 time mvp in the superbowl gets it done.

[@Deerjason]

Let’s face it, everyone gets in the nfl hall of fame. The voters are probably going to vote him in. At least the baseball hall of fame is actually a hall of fame.

[@capcomfan82]

@@Deerjason nowhere near as bad as the nba hof lol. And you know as well as I do there are steroid guys in the Hall of Fame in baseball no questions about it. The Hall of Fame and baseball is kind of a joke to me when you don’t have guys like Roger Clemons and Barry Bonds in regardless of steroid accusations.

[@ShawnoCat]

Eli got two super bowls based off Tom coughlins defense period point blank

[@owttlaw]

DOES NOT make him a FIRST BALLOT Hall of Famer!!! PERIOD!!!!

[@Menace2900]

Off of Steve spagnuolo scheme

[@HopefulNihilist]

How many SB's did Coughlin win without Eli Quarterbacking for him? Asking for a friend.

[@christhewolf4246]

​@HopefulNihilist give Philip Rivers to Tom Coughlin he would probably win those 2 superbowls because they were team efforts while Manning would probably miss the playoffs almost every seasons and definitely not reaching the superbowl with the chargers

[@HopefulNihilist]

​​@@christhewolf4246 Give Eli *insert any elite defensive coach* he probably still wins those 2 super bowls These are inherently fallacious arguments.

[@brianfulsom1605]

If Eli gets in, then it’s a no-brainer that Jim Plunkett should be in immediately!!

[@dwahndenson6385]

Jim Plunkett is not in the Hall= WOW

[@Beardo2517]

Dude should be in already

[@johnmorgan8250]

you are brain dead

[@toptiertech7291]

What? Jim Plunkett threw 34 more interceptions than TDs in his career. That’s an automatic disqualification 😂 he had a career completion percentage of 52%. Yall really don’t like Eli huh? Plus Eli has 2 Super Bowl MVPs. Let’s stop the hate

[@ryanblosser6081]

​@@toptiertech7291you do realize what average stats were 40 years ago right? They are both average QBs with 2 SBs.

[@eobardjohn]

It's official. Molly is TOO emotional for this job. . . . Eli Manning for sure HOF

[@ellemarr7234]

And SAS is cool, calm, and collected? With how emotional you ESPN commenters are, you have some nerve 😂

[@eobardjohn]

@ellemarr7234 😩😩😂😂 Fair point

[@Godwin420]

@@ellemarr7234 The men fight for their points, while Molly is a derisive, look down her painted snout at everyone kinda gal. The network that has the majority of its viewerbase as male should realize her eye candy isn't worth the skin-crawl of hearing her.

[@dylanfuhs185]

@@ellemarr7234difference is we’re here for the actual sports analysts opinion not the moderator from New York with an obvious heavy bias towards this

[@BlackstreetBoys2Men]

“Too emotional” right because Stephen A lacks emotion and is always monotone and deadpan

[@Zeus0886]

The way QB are judged are just stupid. How many players on a NFL team? A QB cant single handily take a team to the playoffs like a NBA player. Eli played on some bad teams. He is in the Top 10 in of all time in major QB statistics. And he might possibly have 3 rings if Plaxico didnt shoot himself. They were 10-1 when that happened. The way it looked nobody was stopping them.

[@fiyaman4]

Says the New York guy

[@lestergarcia247]

That walk off was warranted when it comes to Jeter 😂

[@daweeza42]

While we are at it let's throw in Nick Foles and Joe Flacco in the HOF as 1st ballot SMH!!

[@levivahn469]

SAS was right to walk away when Dan tried to bring up Jeter. Smh. This being a question in the first place proves his point that it's not a lock.

[@carterdrake4232]

Most of these goofies said Philip Rivers isn’t a Hall of Famer but say Eli is a lock. It’s hilarious. Super Bowls are a team accomplishment. Rivers was a far better quarterback. One of the better QB careers ever but because he has no rings he’s just forgotten? So stupid. So let’s just forget about Charles Barkley in basketball and let’s ignore Dan Marino. Rings are not the only thing that matters. Eli was ass for most of his career, as were his Giants teams. I credit his two rings to his defenses just as much as him. Eli’s Hall of Fame stock is overblown.

[@mrquietstorm3058]

Lol facts

[@jakieresykes3644]

Philip Rivers was a choke artist in the playoffs Eli beat a team that had they won they probably would have been the best team ever

[@toptiertech7291]

Ok. See. You guys always do this. Are Super Bowl MVPs a team stat or individual? Because he has 2. Phillip rivers didn’t have the stats to compare himself to those guys though. Dan Marino set records that held for 3-4 decades. Phillip didn’t do that. You either need championships or amazing numbers to get in the hall of fame. Charles Barkley won the MVP of the entire NBA. Dan Marino won MVP. Phillip wasn’t even close. He was barely a top 5 QB in his conference. Based on what you’re saying Dak Prescott is a future hall of famer because he puts up good garbage time stats. What has Phillip done?

[@theape6778]

​@@toptiertech7291 I'm a charger fan so a little bias but I think he'll eventually get in mainly due to his connection with the 04 draft class. He has alot of iron man stats too so definitely not first ballot but eventually

[@theblinkerx]

Phillip Rivers doesn’t belong anywhere near the hall. His signature his whole career was falling behind 21 coming back & throwing the game losing interception within 2 minutes

[@joecole7506]

Dan bringing up Derek Jeter is crazy

[@jackbilly6745]

Sometimes I wonder why is Molly there ? She talks but says nothing

[@n8doggy733]

absolutely, looking at the rest of the list Eli is for sure one of the standouts

[@SpikeRintarou]

Stand your ground, Stephen A. You’re absolutely right. Eli Manning wasn’t a very good QB who appears to win two rings with a very good defense and great play by his part, I can’t pretend he didn’t play very well during those runs. However, I cannot just brush aside how pedestrian he looked for the vast majority of his career just because of these moments. This isn’t the Hall of Charity for the average or very good, you’re supposed to be a transcendent talent with a transcendent career and I just don’t see that with him. And I think that I’m not alone on that one

[@nasinicolopoulos9557]

the list of two time Super Bowl MVPs is the only stat you need, and Eli is on that list

[@JohnOMalley-c6s]

Jim Plunkett is on that list too and he's not in the HOF? Just because you win rings don't mean you're a hall of famer look at Dan Marino He has none and he's in the hall of fame.

[@nasinicolopoulos9557]

@@JohnOMalley-c6s you can argue with me all you want. Eli beat the greatest football team to ever play in the Super Bowl, and to this day still holds the postseason QB records. He’ll be a first ballot hall of famer because you can’t tell the story of the NFL without ELI MANNING. Go kick rocks

[@nasinicolopoulos9557]

@@JohnOMalley-c6s and plunkett only won MVP the second time they won the superbowl Marcus Allen was the MVP.

[@nasinicolopoulos9557]

Good job ESPN for highlighting a reply with a stat that’s not real

[@Geezyguap]

He was the only QB at one point that beat Tom Brady in the Super Bowl not once but twice

[@GoatEntertainment-dy9pb]

Right

[@Godwin420]

That's laughable. 1st ballot HOF for being TB12 kryptonite, rofl.

[@kenverrill4205]

that defense beat Brady

[@foreva_89]

Man who asked molly🤨. Please be quiet

[@ianoduor254]

Only because he beat Brady twice lol

[@Noog6284]

It’s crazy … that’s how dynamic Brady is 😂 all because of one player

[@leir2005]

Fortunately for him that’ll be enough

[@JohnOMalley-c6s]

Files should be in too then since he beat Brady too

[@Kevin.Costner.]

@@Noog6284so for brady it’s “one player” but for Eli it’s “Team” intresting

[@Kevin.Costner.]

Narrative is always Brady Carried & Eli “Managed” If this is literally any other guy Winning 2 in New York They get a statue before Christmas

[@DieHardKidd]

Eli should be a 1st ballot and if he’s not you’re moving the goal post *again*

[@freddieflores8881]

@DieHardKidd 1f Eli gets in on his 1st year of eligible then Tony Romo gets into the HOF

[@lubabalomengu8311]

SAS should've slapped Dan before walking away.... The audacity! The gaul!

[@ronaldcoates7228]

He will get in off his name alone , sad but true ! 💯

[@Godwin420]

Molly is in her spot due to supposed eye candy while Eli will be in the HoF because of his brother. Agreed.

[@andrewwilliams3389]

Eli didn’t beat Brady twice in the superbowl… Eli’s defense did. It’s easy to win and have game winning drives when your defense holds the opponent to 14 pts & then 17 pts and all you have to do is score more than 14 pts & 17 pts. I can tell the story of the 2000s without Eli, I just can’t tell it without the giants stopping an undefeated season but I can tell it without Eli per se.

[@austinburwell5834]

Yeah they trying to force a argument that doesn’t exist.

[@TheNatewl777]

Agreed. Did a great job in crunch time with a very good team around him. Regular season Eli was unspectacular. Not a first ballot.

[@randymoss789]

The entire back half of his career he had horrible teams

[@TheNatewl777]

@randymoss789 Those defenses were how he beat the Patriots. What are you talking about?

[@randymoss789]

@ then why was he the MVP in both superbowls???? lol yall kill me with that, how many teams you know actually win superbowls with a great defense and a bad QB???? He didn’t even have a top defense those years he won the superbowl lol.

[@toptiertech7291]

@randymoss789 umm the ravens for 1. Trent Dilfer is a Super Bowl winning QB 😂

[@TheNatewl777]

@randymoss789 he beat the pats 17 to 14. Only 14 points given up. You think that was Eli? Please tell me you watched that game.

[@legendlem5337]

The fact that they are arguing “MOMENTS” make you a first ballot hall of famer means that there are A LOT of people who need to be not only a first ballot but hall of fame in general for having “MOMENTS”

[@nomoney_sniper1885]

He's the Brady Killer...check Joe Namath's stats

[@RobbieStacks90]

Joe Namath was the reason. Eli Manning was never the reason. Plaxico Burress, Osi Umenyiora, Justin Tuck, Brandon Jacobs, etc. had to do the work for him.

[@JohnOMalley-c6s]

Foles should get in too he beat Brady too

[@ryanblosser6081]

Joe Namath also played 50 years ago. Fewer teams and every QB had bad stats. Also overrated anyway.

[@toptiertech7291]

@RobbieStacks90 so Joe Namath was the reason for passing the ball and having a good defense but Eli passed the ball with a good defense and he’s not the reason? Namath had 50 more INTs than TDs in his career. Barely completed 50% of his passes. Stop the hate

[@theohanna3561]

Namath was All-Pro and won an MVP. Eli has done neither

[@kobegoodall3444]

Eli also has never played w a HOF skill player or first team all pro like all the other HOF QBs

[@chrisk3405]

Bro what are you talking about? Played with Tiki Barber, Plaxico Burress, Hakeem Nicks, Victor Cruz, and Odell. Maybe not hof players but plenty of very talented receivers and backs

[@kobegoodall3444]

@@chrisk3405 tiki barber is the only player he ever played with who was a first team all pro and that was only one time. Never said he didn’t have talented ppl. But all the other first ballot HOFs played with multiple HOF/First team all pro players. Look it up

[@chrisk3405]

@@kobegoodall3444 A lot of them definitely have but what about guys like Dan Marino? Or Drew Brees even (don’t think he’s hof eligible yet but he’ll be first ballot)?

[@austinburwell5834]

@@kobegoodall3444 Odell was considered the best WR at one point. His famous catch was a terrible throw from Eli

[@RobbieStacks90]

I've never been a huge fan of Eli's. The first time I watched him outside of a score ticker or highlights was against LSU, and he was awful. If the Chargers had drafted him, I think he would have had a Blake Bortles type career. His defense and running backs are what got him his Super Bowls. He never went out there and threw for 400 yards and 5 TDs to win games, so I would say he doesn't belong.

[@randymoss789]

Lmao ummm Eli had plenty of games where he put the team on his back

[@jeffa4787]

These people must not have watched all the wild ints he threw in the regular season or him play at all. Just talk about him beating Brady. He didn’t beat Brady he beat Bill. Would this be a conversation if David Tyree drops that ball? Doubtful.

[@randymoss789]

@ he played in a system where they took high risk throws and timing was crucial between him and the recievers

[@toptiertech7291]

So that’s why he won finals mvp? In fact. How many superbowls has ANY quarterback won throwing 400 yards and 5TDs? How many times has Brady or Peyton done that in a superbowl?

[@xaevius5319]

@@toptiertech7291 so just finals mvp makes him a hall of famer? dude overachieves twice and all of a sudden he's 1st ballot lmao

[@RichCinema]

With these metrics Joe Flacco will be a HOFer eventually.

[@jcool7817]

did she just tell stephen a to put his phone down? molly really needs to be put in her place fr

[@mrquietstorm3058]

Molly is the female version of Stephen A.... thirsty for attn and wants to be center of attn. No one even likes molly

[@toptiertech7291]

She’s the host 😂😂 that is her place. Her job is to literally keep everyone focused, attentive and on topic

[@tkelong3569]

In her place? She’s in her place. On the number one sports talk show in the US.

[@logicallgaming]

i mean she isnt wrong on this one. stephen a. wants her off her phone then he should demonstrate expected behavior on his show.

[@ellemarr7234]

It’s literally her job. You look dumb af.

[@714milky]

Phillip Rivers is gonna be a First Ballot....if he is then Eli has to be.

[@MikkiChavez]

So NOW were puttng emphasis on regular seasons? 😭😭😭

[@Kevin.Costner.]

it’s crazy bro, I dont even know what to say😭 If thats the Case Joel Embid 1st Ballot all exit

[@chrisk3405]

Wdym now? Dan Marino is an all time legend and hof who never won a ring. Brees only has 1, Favre only has 1, I could keep going

[@sakthithanigai5036]

@@Kevin.Costner. he missed the playoffs in over half his years

[@Eats1987]

I love my team, i love my Quarterback. He's not a hall of famer.

[@allonisaacs8765]

Farve led the league in INT's 3 times, too!

[@warrioranime9340]

He also won 3 straight MVPs something Eli never did

[@Godwin420]

Compare them in every category now. Farve bends Eli over and asks if he's ready to say uncle yet or not.

[@hollandc147]

If he becomes 1st ballot, it will water down the HOF tremendously.

[@HammadAnwar02]

Not a big Fan of Eli but the fact that he was able to win in New York is next level!

[@JohnOMalley-c6s]

It's not that hard the giants have won 2 super bowls before him? Idk get wym?

[@marvingoins]

Orlovsky said Eli beat rodgers twice when he only beat him once in 2011 then the next time the giants made the playoffs in 2016 they got BEAT by rodgers after Odell and them went on that boat cruise w Trey Songz and others, had to correct him there

[@carltonpresley5415]

You can’t talk about the history of football without Eli Manning. He beat the Tom Brady twice and ruined the Patriots undefeated season. Stats hold up decently. Other than the win loss record

[@JohnOMalley-c6s]

You cant talk NFL Historywithout Foles too. So due to your logic should Files be in the HOF too? What about Rex Grossman? GTFOH. His defense was the reason they won those Bowls not him.

[@jamiethomas5849]

You’ll talk about Eli but it’ll be a very short conversation

[@carltonpresley5415]

@@JohnOMalley-c6s no, Foles doesn’t have the stats by any means. That man came in and took over when Wentz got hurt that season. There’s a huge difference between back up and franchise starter

[@antioneharris8309]

@@carltonpresley5415Yeah and that “franchise starter” was never an All-Pro, never an MVP and never led the league in anything but interceptions (multiple times). I’m not saying he won’t make the HOF but he def shouldn’t be 1st Ballot

[@JohnOMalley-c6s]

He shouldn't make the hall of fame he doesn't deserve it

[@MarvyG23]

He will get in first ballot because of his last name and there’s no other QB on the ballot

[@justme7495]

He beat Tom Brady to win the superbowl twice, nothing further needs to be said!

[@RobbieStacks90]

His team beat Tom Brady. He just managed the team to victory.

[@tae5257]

If that’s the case nick foles should be in cuz he also beat Brady in a Super Bowl

[@Btrill03]

And one of those NE teams was undefeated going into the superbowl that absolutely needs to be said!

[@jamiethomas5849]

It’s not the Beat Brady of Fame it’s the Pro Football Hall of Fame where the greatest players to ever play the game go. Putting Eli in that group would be criminal to the people that actually deserve it

[@daquaylenavie3740]

@@RobbieStacks90he still has 2 SB MVP’s

[@ChristopherMorris-c1l]

He has two super bowl rings, he's first ballot. End of story.

[@aa8995]

Oh yes then every single patriots player in the Brady era with more than 3 SBs should be first ballot hall of fame right?

[@Minnis-km7oz]

Exactly if it's only the superbowl metric your doing then Nick Foles is in.

[@kifley19]

Average qb with 2 superbowl rings because of his defense. He should not be a hall of famer. He was never a top 5 qb in any season.

[@JohnOMalley-c6s]

Thank you Donovan mcnabb was better than him

[@DD01880]

1st Ballot HOF for ELI???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 A memorable and honored mentioned only. Dan and Molly need to get their football acumen a serious checkup cause they're both on LSD at this moment. So this means everyone that has won 2 SB or 2 MVP truly plays awful in the regular/ post-season deserves to be in HOF, Molly and Dan? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 SAS, TELL THESE PEOPLE THAT THEY NEED HELP!

[@HitKLHman]

Being first ballot means nothing, you get no incentives being first ballot. Just make it to the hall of fame. Which eli will do.

[@dextercorner3942]

You so right they acting like if u go first ballot you get special treatment or something long as you get in that's the mean thing and Eli will get in

[@Ruleof2Review]

I’m torn. I think both Dan and Stephen make great arguments. I personally think Eli deserves it, but I’m 50/50 on whether or not it will happen.

[@YuriBoris-s8u]

Eli Manning is a 2 time SB MVP and he beat the greatest team ever assembled the 2007 Patriots, stop with the BS 💩 he's a first ballot HOF

[@nelsonquintanilla748]

He only made 4 pro bowls and led the league in interceptions multiple times

[@YuriBoris-s8u]

.nobody cares how many probowls he made he's a 2 time SB winner

[@nelsonquintanilla748]

@YuriBoris-s8u you need to make more pro bowls

[@Danielson7878]

“Don’t tell me it’s a lock !” Was SAS point lmao

[@cvkev617]

Nope not first ballot

[@MKillBill]

Screw first ballot, there's debate about whether he should be in the Hall of Fame at all.

[@austinshannon4197]

Here’s the thing with Eli Manning. He doesn’t deserve the NFL Hall of Fame at all because in his overall NFL career, sucked in general, pretty much because in his regular season career, he was terrible BUT I will say this, Eli Manning is BY FAR is the best playoff player in NFL history, by far the best Super Bowl player in NFL history and quite frankly the by far the best postseason player in NFL history. For some reason he just couldn’t play like that in the regular season. He literally did so bad in his regular season career, that the two time Super Bowl champion and mvp doesn’t even come close to deserving the Hall of Fame. Sorry but it’s the truth.

[@VisualHighlights.]

atleast Stephen A is consistent lol he has been saying this couple years ago too 🤣

[@bradleyjacks2691]

If there's any debate about you being 1st ballot........you're not 1st ballot lol.

[@1iamkirby]

The Dan Orlovsky death stare 2:45 😂

[@jamesbeachem2003]

His QB stats for all time, his owning of Brady, his victory over the undefeated team(which effected history) and that last name gets in 1st ballot. Also we have a few 1st ballot QBs who never won rings.

[@tman2741]

Led the league in interceptions 3x. Only made the pro bowl 4x, and no one ever considered Eli Manning a top 5 QB in the league or one of the best. We all saw those games, it’s not like Eli lit it up in the super bowls. .500 career record, never being considered one of the best during your time, leading league in picks multiple times is not 1st ballot worthy. Thats for the best of the best like Brady, Peyton, Montana, Marino, Moon, Brees, Mahomes etc. would be disrespectful to say eli in that class

[@spade565]

You're comparing QBs who've never played in the same era to Eli manning. Not once was manning ever considered the best or one of the best. His stats are literal MID. His record is literal MID. Has he won MVPs? No. All pro? No. Pro bowls? Just 4? Cmon. You mentioned beating Brady but so did Nick Foles and NOONE believes Nick should be in the hall.

[@douchebaggio2349]

​@spade565 Eli is top 10 in: TD's, games played, wins. 2 super bowl mvps in addition to the other accolades your dismissive about. Yea... he's done more then enough.

[@TheHmanLives]

He's literally the only QB on the list" Eric Allen, CB Jared Allen, DE Willie Anderson, T Anquan Boldin, WR Jahri Evans, G Antonio Gates, TE James Harrison, LB Rodney Harrison, S Torry Holt, WR Luke Kuechly, LB* Eli Manning, QB* Robert Mathis, DE/LB Steve Smith Sr., WR Terrell Suggs, LB/DE* Fred Taylor, RB Earl Thomas, DB* Adam Vinatieri, PK* Hines Ward, WR Ricky Watters, RB Reggie Wayne, WR Richmond Webb, T Vince Wilfork, DT Steve Wisniewski, G Darren Woodson, S Marshal Yanda, G/T*

[@Hydepop19]

My guy is top ten all time in yards and tds and had 2 legendary post season runs, while beating Brady and Belichick twice. TWIIIIICE

[@JohnOMalley-c6s]

Well then nick foles should be in the hall of fame too since he beat Brady and belichick too right?

[@tannerrienbolt3143]

The Jeter comparison is interesting. Manning is all time based on his good offensive stats/accolades (TDs, Yards, completions, rings, playoff performances etc.) and can be knocked for his bad stuff (interceptions, winning percentage etc.). Jeter is all time due to his offensive performances (average, rbis, clutch hits, rings etc.) and can be knocked for being arguably the worst defensive shortstop of all time. Eli is a lock first ballot dude just like Jeter was. Stephan A. just likes to yell and stomp around for the camera

[@yokhurram1983]

2 rings and 2 Super Bowl mvps. End of debate

[@bgstv10001]

It is a debate and if it's a debate than you not a first ballot of famer buddy

[@yokhurram1983]

@ everyone who is a multiple time Super Bowl MVP is a first ballot.

[@bgstv10001]

@@yokhurram1983 in your eyes but not reality buddy

[@Espressogeeks]

I've rarely seen SAS that inconsistent. That is the EXACT same case he is making against the cowboys on 365 days a year. "That's not how champions talk...". 2 Rings... so the regular seasons dont matter. But... he is right on the eye test. There were many better QBs, but Eli was clutch af.

[@jamiethomas5849]

If they put Eli in at all let alone on his first ballot I don’t even want there to be a debate when it’s time for Cam Newton who is a league MVP and a rookie of the year

[@selwynandrews7716]

Cam should get in but he ain't do wit Eli did.

[@camronredwine5604]

Comparing Jeter to manning at the end was absolutely ABSURD. When people talk about the top 5 best shortstops to ever play, Jeter is at least mentioned. When people talk about the TOP 20 QBS TO EVER PLAY… Eli manning is never going to be mentioned ever.

[@trefrank5691]

The media needs to stop playing with Eli's name. Dude beat Tom Brady twice at the highest level TWICE. Nuff said.

[@theohanna3561]

Putting someone in the Hall of Fame because of someone else's legacy is hilarious.

[@spade565]

And outside of that? Literally a mid career. Did not push his team to succeed in the playoffs. Was responsible for those losses half of the time. A career MID record. No personal achievements such as all pros, MVPs, and 4 pro bowls? Really?

[@chitweak18]

So Nick Foles and Blake Bortles deserve HOF cause they beat Tom Brady.

[@RosaMora-pm2df]

Stephen A is right with this one. “Lock” is crazy work not crazy crazy but crazy.

[@VainRain69]

Led his team to two Super Bowls with some of the best playoff performances in all of history. Thats enough said. It shouldn't be a debate.

[@caleboconnell858]

This is Steven. I putting the fact that this is a debate show way before what he knows is a good Sports take

[@heatguyjr]

Brett Favre, first ballot HOF'er, led the league in interceptions 3 times. Favre is also the all-time leader in interceptions thrown and fumbles. So let's go ahead and kill that narrative.

[@lukeskywalkermod3686]

you win the dumbest comment award. you conveniently left out the fact that farve led the league in pass completions 2 years, and most passing yards and touchdown passes one year each. He also finished in the top 10 in completions, passing yards, and touchdown passes in every season from 1992-2007. he ALSO broke Elway’s record of 148 career wins as a starting quarterback, Dan Marino’s all-time records of touchdown passes and passing yards. Now be quiet and sit in the corner goofy giants fan

[@austinburwell5834]

@@lukeskywalkermod3686 yeah idk why he bringing up Brett INt record 😂😂

[@heatguyjr]

@@lukeskywalkermod3686 Stephen A said Eli can't be first ballot cuz he led the league in INTs 3 times. So did Brett. That's all I'm saying. Throwing a lot of INTs didn't stop Brett from being first ballot.

[@miketrick4638]

@@heatguyjrFavre has 3 MVPs and that's something Eli doesn't have. Farve is an above .500 QB while Eli is not. Farve led the Packers to more winning seasons than Eli led the Giants. If you take away those two years and you have nothing. The Giants (both times) were literally a wildcard team that snuck in but just got hot 🔥 in the playoffs.

[@Frogdog6969]

Back when Max was on, there was an ICONIC debate on this topic.

[@RicardoEstrada-li2rv]

“Put your phone down… are you listening?” Mollys contract def ain’t get extended lmao

[@keithkilgorejr5100]

hahhhahahhahhhah Stephen A's face at the beginning look like someone gave him the only unglazed Krispy Kreme donut out the dozen

[@victorroche5044]

When 7 of the top 10 interception leaders are in the HoF - does that stat matter?

[@KManamperi]

Luke Kuechly, Adam Vinatieri, & Terrell Suggs are the only one I would put as a lock for First Ballot Hall of Fame in this class.

[@cassaro747]

I’m 100 billion percent behind Stephen a on this topic

[@dfillmo59]

Eli manning is not a 1st ballot. Just because his brother Peyton and his dad is Archie manning doesnt him a HOF