I found JustinGuitar because of this video. Blown away by the quality of the content, I signed up right away.
@barryduff30475 жыл бұрын
@@RedlightBlue Yeah. Justin is amazing. I play because of him
@thepumpkinking6665 жыл бұрын
@@RedlightBlue Justin's my guitar teacher as well. His online beginner course is amazing!
@korveret91865 жыл бұрын
Upload a vid on youtube
@Styre694 жыл бұрын
As a beginner, it's been the best thing I have come across.
@Lonewolf23-266 жыл бұрын
Fender play was on just before I watched your video
@andrewcottingham8586 жыл бұрын
Adam Wellman same
@tildeboo14485 жыл бұрын
sameee
@samgolshayan92185 жыл бұрын
Same
@THEONLYSONYV4 жыл бұрын
As a total newbie... I got the free trial in October and there's no way 2 weeks was any where near enough. However, I was able to purchase a year for $40. There was a half-off discount after the trial. I'm still learning my strings!
@teleguy56993 жыл бұрын
Clownish comment that a beginner can complete this in 2 weeks. He must have been fired by Fender or something.
@angellovesjazz2 жыл бұрын
Depends on how much you practice. Therefore it's possible in 2 weeks 😅🤣
@JohnnyRelentless4 жыл бұрын
"The most a beginner will need it for is two weeks." You seriously overestimate me.
@natewho43664 жыл бұрын
My legit thoughts lol I got a three-month free subscription didn't get close to finishing
@imel3ment4l104 жыл бұрын
I played the guitar before lockdown and stopped going to classes, but I really want to get into it again, and Fender was cheaper than Yousicion.
@angellovesjazz2 жыл бұрын
@@imel3ment4l10 maybe you should consider Pow Music channel on KZbin
@allanwilson88786 жыл бұрын
Justin Guitar is the way to go. End of story. Good video.
@davidfewtrell34796 жыл бұрын
Agree - amazing content mostly free. Just brilliant
@jimjames48756 жыл бұрын
Justin is love, Justin is life
@lknez136 жыл бұрын
Agree. Justin taught me basically everything I know on guitar. Big recommend
@theblytonian39066 жыл бұрын
Actually it's not ..IMO&E. I started out on Justin Guitar. Today JustinGuitar.com is neither free nor the best, but if it seems that way to you, enough said. What it is good for is 'testing the water' when you first start out as a beginner with his *limited* free access material, but anyone who persists with guitar beyond his cowboy chord lessons will discover before long that to access the meat in the stew requires payment. Previously it was buy Justin Guitar books per module (expensive from outside outside the UK). Now its a modular subscription model similar to Jamplay. Having tried the three major sites along with alternative others and You Tube, Justin Guitar's formerly more culturally conventional English orientated teaching methodology I liked, but in its latest incarnation revamp, behind the visual facelift, he is dumbing the presentations down to to the lowest common mass market IQ denominator clearly targeting today's dominant McDemographic. Whilst it does follow a US culturally orientated teaching style, *if I'm paying* and I am putting my money where my mouth is with an annual subscription model, *Guitar Tricks* is the #1 clear winner hands down. Comprehensive and professional with *an all inclusive package* representing superior value. Whilst inarguably Justin Guitar does have useful tools and material within its free access which I co-access regularly, it's mcmodule approach is very much now just like Jamplay without the glam visuals and hero worship. No "Would you like fizzy drink or fries with your McFat burger today" scripted flim flam value adding for me thanks. Pass me the meat 'n taters please.
@allanwilson88786 жыл бұрын
The Blytonian I learned a huge amount from Justin, but I’ve got to admit that I haven’t been there since his recent web page upgrade. Perhaps it’s not what it used to be?
@joemonk22914 жыл бұрын
It takes more than 14 days to get through all 5 levels. I’m a beginner so I like it. You can’t have a realistic look at this product because you’re already a good player.
@brettadkins46984 жыл бұрын
Uh, no he’s not.
@snoozy96994 жыл бұрын
@@brettadkins4698 bro you eat people
@brettadkins46984 жыл бұрын
Snoozy Sure, you eat a couple three guys decades ago and that’s all you’re ever known for. I’m a human being too damnit.
@snoozy96994 жыл бұрын
Jeffery Dahmer little more than 3 and a little more than eat😳
@teleguy56993 жыл бұрын
Nothing worse than a "bedroom guitarist" acting like his opinion means anything but just that.
@andrelabelle31696 жыл бұрын
Marty music is the way
@carljohnson46916 жыл бұрын
Especially for those of us with short fingers, like Marty!
@lionlocVanDwellington6 жыл бұрын
He had taught be so much! Lol
@stevenh50576 жыл бұрын
YESS
@b.c28106 жыл бұрын
andre labelle yeet
@mrhegarty59105 жыл бұрын
Always !!!
@hickrants48825 жыл бұрын
Honestly fender play’s better and easier to use then KZbin tutorials
@jeff77646 жыл бұрын
Justin guitar has such great energy about him.
@tylerlao95743 жыл бұрын
I have fender play and I’ve played on there for more than 14 days and I’ve learned a lot from the instrocters
@ni777ful4 жыл бұрын
I went through the trial when I was pretty much an absolute beginner, a little under 2 years ago now, and I've gotta say, if you already know your open chords then you're already past needing anything Fender Play has to offer
@carpathus4 жыл бұрын
Fender Play keeps it light, breezy and fun. Love the way lessons are organized and the way Fender Play provides a consistent and structured environment to learn guitar. It really makes it's easy to learn at your own pace and keep track of your achievements. They sometimes put their annual plan on deal for 50% off so a one year subscription can be had for as little as 45 bucks.
@bigkeezo4 жыл бұрын
Oh boy 😃
@vanillaicecream23853 жыл бұрын
cough cough totally not a paid comment
@Hiro.the.God.2 жыл бұрын
It’s trash lol.
@yashvardhansinghsolanki63914 жыл бұрын
Well the 3month free subsciption during corona is paying off for me i guess
@nhattran10744 жыл бұрын
same for me haha 3 months free
@raghavgarg69094 жыл бұрын
Same, I ordered a bass combo and I got 3month free. The bAss will arrive in a couple of days.
@ahumanbeing5414 жыл бұрын
@@raghavgarg6909 send bAss
@absoluteandro63824 жыл бұрын
@@raghavgarg6909 slap it
@garlicmayo964 жыл бұрын
@Jenni J how did you find it after a couple of months?
@benlindstrom95714 жыл бұрын
I just got my fender play free for three months, I’m happy I got something to do for social distancing
@tentacleprincess57724 жыл бұрын
Ben Lindstrom how did you get that ?
@odinrave4 жыл бұрын
@@tentacleprincess5772 They are giving away free three month trials to the first 500,000 users to sign up with no credit card required. Probably because of COVID 19. I think this number is arbitrary because the initial number was 250,000 then they increased it to 500,000.
@ethanperez58704 жыл бұрын
i did too
@damianray25474 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@nihil63344 жыл бұрын
same, I'm a total begginer (like, I've never picked up a guitar before this) and I must say, I've improved A LOT just in a week. Probably won't pay after three months, or maybe I'll just pay for one more month if I haven't completed all the lessons idk
@raspberyldesign2 жыл бұрын
I'm a total newbie who tried both. I love fender more because it teaches you one chord and then teaches one song that uses it. In addition, all the videos gets harder gradually. You can actually feel your own process. It is better to learn one chord in a song and use it in a song with the ones you learned before. So, you can learn a chord, compare it with other chords and improve your transicion and muscle memory. I liked JustinGuitar and Marty Music but similar to other online guitar courses, I find myself holding the guitar and not playing it. Most teachers just talk about the guitar, the pick, reading the tab, ways to play better... They show either one chord or all the chords in one video without any sample music. I cannot learn all of the chords at the same time. And, I cannot learn one chord just by playing that only one chord without any music. The others gets repetitive a lot, which is too boring.
@kagreen2k3 жыл бұрын
I played electric bass for years when I was younger. I took lessons from 2 good teachers and played in bands for years. After 20 years of not playing much, I decided to buy a Fender 6 string and tried Fender Play out. They offered 50% off for a year (about $45) so I signed up. Two months in, I am still enjoying it and learning.
@daltonrothacher46135 жыл бұрын
Saw a fender play ad, searched youtube for more info, found this video, just wanted to say thanks for saving me time!
@SO-bp2uc5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. This is the exact type of review I was looking for, It's short, to the point and entertaining. Great job!
@trouty655 жыл бұрын
Ive come back to Guitar after 20 years at age 54 and didn't learn a lot first time around. Now with renewed enthusiasm i have subscribed to JamPlay and think its superb. Love the structure, just what i need and am loving tracking my progress. i have learnt way more in 2 months than i ever learn before. 100's of fantastic guitar teachers, many professional musicians and simply 1000's of videos to learn from covering practically every genre. I hope to see myself in a years time in a place i never thought i would ever get to :-) Superb ! Ps i have no test this company just saw a couple of great reviews and went with it. LOVING IT !
@dragonstarm36195 жыл бұрын
I personally like it, I dont have to search through random videos on KZbin since it's all laid out. I am a true beginner and thinking how could you get through this in 2 weeks?? I'm sure I'm slower also because of my busy lifestyle and dont practice everyday but I have no complaints with it.
@kostonl4 жыл бұрын
Just wondering how are you doing now? Are you still practicing? And if so how was the improvement? Just curious is all
@teleguy56993 жыл бұрын
This person is a clown for saying a beginner can complete this in 2 weeks.
@grentperez4 жыл бұрын
yo i bloody love the way u talk haha
@BalticDS4 жыл бұрын
Hwat
@RedlightBlue4 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you
@gwallahs53084 жыл бұрын
🩸
@aidanbrooks66266 жыл бұрын
Dude appreciated!!! I almost got fender play, but just signed up for Justin Guitar and it's exactly what I wanted. Saved me money pal. Appreciated. Stay cool
@Gvaz3 жыл бұрын
I've been using it for 2.5 weeks and I haven't finished level 1/5 so IDK what you're talking about, not needing it for 2 weeks. I am almost done level 1, though, I need to practice more on my chord switching and muscle memory. I got a free 3 months w/ my guitar and I think I'll need it for at least the 3 months.
@racyagentmac5 жыл бұрын
Yep I started with justinguitar too👍and after that I could play song lessons from KZbin and learn by hearing and seeing songs now I'm advanced intermediate🤘
@dfxlab92452 жыл бұрын
Good vid bro, Im happy someone has bought the reality of learning guitar to touch, all these adds seem to want to convince people near enough that you'll wake up one morning and you can do it, its pretty funny
@snakebite47675 жыл бұрын
TNX.. a very good rundown on Fender Play. I was looking for just this type information.
@xaviertejeda58654 жыл бұрын
my man was holding a guitar the whole vid for no reason xD xD
@the_guitar_nook5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing the review of Fender Play. You answered some key questions for me.
@teleguy56993 жыл бұрын
He really didn't. All he did was mock it.
@willbaldwin36055 жыл бұрын
All I want, is a beginner to advanced dvd course I just want to learn acoustic folk and blues guitar
@andreharrington71694 жыл бұрын
Try play bass or guitar today course $19.99 at any music store. Comes with book and dvd. My wife got it for me when I got my 1st bass guitar and loved it. 3 months later moved on to course 2 and finally the song book where you apply all that you have learned. Great for a beginner to advanced player
@knzerogaming46655 жыл бұрын
Thanks for saving me 10$/month Justin Guitar is the way to go!
@ItsJustShane6 жыл бұрын
I'm going to hold this guitar so you know I know what i'm talking about.
@Teeks90006 жыл бұрын
“Is Fender Play worth it??” Sees ad at the start of this video, already downloaded the app......
@johnmargiotti12626 жыл бұрын
Mad props to Justin Guitar! There are also several others out there like Andy guitar and I think my favorite is Henry Olson!
@yagmursaygl15403 жыл бұрын
Like your energy dude! Please keep it coming
@stephenstringer65475 жыл бұрын
Great shoutout for Justinguitar: the best resource on the net for learning guitar. And it’s free (though you should consider donating if you’re an aficionado.)
@johnd9424 жыл бұрын
Good presentation. Cool demeanour. Clearly spoken. Like the humour (but don't over-do it). Well done!
@SteveStockmalMusic5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man !!!! I was going to recommend this to one of my friends...now I’ll jut forward your review to him
@DoctorMarkyMark4 жыл бұрын
I agree, justinguitar is awesome, but worth donating since Justin has done a stellar job!
@alexdenes70584 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the helpful (and entertaining) review!
@naquafina36822 жыл бұрын
All of the visual stuff and sound effects on this video were extremely satisfying for my adhd 😂😂
@scottnathanphoto5 жыл бұрын
Your editing gave me a seizure.
@IMJSR6 жыл бұрын
Great video. I am following Justins beginner course, and was getting tons of these Fender Play adds, so great to see a comparison video, thx!
@jansonchave88175 жыл бұрын
Yet again, saved me time and money cheers bud
@cbwinning5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review and pointing me to Justin Guitar. I so appreciate this my brother.
@ashley-mx6gv6 жыл бұрын
I got a fender play ad right before this video
@shaikrizwan1234 жыл бұрын
I was so close to joining a website (paid) to learn guitar but You saved me man! JustinGuitar is where my journey begins!
@Alder20223 жыл бұрын
I like it so far. Finishing Level 1 now. I have used all sorts of resources, in-person lessons included, but what i am discovering is that it all comes down to your desire. Sure, in-person would have worked long term if i put the time in. Sure, Justin could teach me if i committed to following his videos. It all comes down to choice. I have been working at home for a year and tired of staring at my guitar hanging on the wall and not having someone to play it well. So i recently joined Fender Play. I am past my 2 week trail and just finishing level1. So what? I’m also a lefty playing righty, so what? Everyone’s Path is different, and for different reasons too. I like the format. I like the structure. I am learning all over again, which is fine by me cause i need to work on technique. Again, I’m a lefty. I paid for a year. I hope to stick with it this time. I want to. Even if vaccines make me go back to the office, my commitment is to continue to play. That’s the plan anyways. Whatever works for you, do it. Come on, $40/ year. That’s less than one bottle of decent whiskey or a nice dinner out with your +1. Make the leap. I feel this time, it’s worth it.
@teleguy56993 жыл бұрын
This lefty agrees with you!
@7Bytez6 жыл бұрын
Great channel for a small channel. Your edits are great, I see you growing pretty big if you keep it up and stay interesting. I subscribed before 1,000. Before you get 100,000 lol. Btw your video was in the top 3 that popped up under "fender play" and you had the best thumbnail that made me want to click. I know it's good to get info like this when you may not know where you stand, yourself, in searches. Going to check out more of your stuff, thanks.
@RedlightBlue6 жыл бұрын
thank you :) glad you found it, and glad the thumbnail stuck out to you! i'm still trying to figure those out lol
@jamesstojan53045 жыл бұрын
Cheers man. Good balanced review of pros/cons
@janrandles86834 жыл бұрын
I agree totally with everything you said. Too slow for me after over a year with Justin guitar although I do pay Justin a small amount, as he is so good. And he is constantly updating his site. I was on FP and learned a few technique improvements but I use Justin and UG, GuitarTricks as they seem geared more to intermediate and beyond.
@hammockmonk5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man, this was exactly what I was looking for.
@jasonduckworth15254 жыл бұрын
you have missed one major point, there’s ukulele and bass as well as guitar for the same price, and two weeks for 0-level 5 your kidding right! The lessons are 5 minutes or 15 minutes long and for busy parents and professionals it’s easy to fit in, and as it’s fender, two things you know it’s the correct technique and the resources are convenient packaged, the practice playbacks are ace. I don’t have time to trawl the internet looking for courses and this is perfect can’t recommend enough. And for completeness I have looked at Yousician and Justingutar as well still prefer fender.
@teleguy56993 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@alexp-51966 жыл бұрын
Nothing like getting a fender play ad before a should u get fender app video
@Lexii0315 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! Was really in between chosing Fender Play or Justinguitar and this helped me make up my mind!
@nahaniyes4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! To the point, extremely helpful.
@ronbzoom85314 жыл бұрын
Well you just saved me a lot of time. Thanks man! Well Justin, you're up next!
@MichaelJohn-s5q4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Trying to buy my first Acoustic Guitar. The one I was looking at $120 with Fender Play! Then Next one up was without the Fender Play. So Thanks I will consider what you said. But since I already have some Beginner guitar Courses I guess I could skip the Fender Play option.
@gristamshackleford21022 жыл бұрын
justin and marty are the 2 best free ones on youtube. im still looking a good upper lvl intermediate site
@ZakTheIllest2 жыл бұрын
Active melody is another good free resource for players that have more experience. I've been using it a lot. Lots of country, rock and blues. 👍
@rainerdietel65114 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your clear words. I also had the idea that Fender play isn't worth the money, at least for not absolutely beginners. Now I'm convinced that I'm right. Thank you very much.
@longnhat73525 жыл бұрын
I love the video editing
@ironmaiden56584 жыл бұрын
Thanks heaps for this video man. Fender Play just popped up on my Facebook feed as a sponsor ad claiming 3 months free.. But like you said, the main page tells you nothing.. I think I'll head to justin guitar.. Cheers..
@squilla89564 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making the choice easy for me.
@MiketheNerdRanger Жыл бұрын
I think Fender Play offers something that free resources, even ones like JustinGuitar, don't have: structure. Fender Play is super ultra MEGA structured, with clear paths that are easy to follow, which takes a lot of the load off. Personally maybe I wouldn't get it, but there's definitely a pretty strong case for it, so I wouldn't dismiss it.
@josephclark84555 жыл бұрын
I got an ad for Fender Play after this video ended.
@julianrodela44246 жыл бұрын
i think of justinguitar as "that guy who taught me stairway to heaven" lol
@mumra19844 жыл бұрын
I thought Fender play was absolutely gash. I learnt nothing that wasn't free. I prefer paying more money for 1 to 1
@randyrrs70286 жыл бұрын
Paying for fender play is like paying to watch a KZbin video
@teleguy56993 жыл бұрын
No it's not. KZbin is random algorithms. FP is a structured online course.
@Spacepuffin0075 жыл бұрын
+1 for JustinGuitar, that dude and that site are amazing.
@SamM-pj1dx5 жыл бұрын
Who else here got a fender play ad before this video?
@fmartini865 жыл бұрын
Everybody ;)
@isaacaguirreescarcega97995 жыл бұрын
Adblock
@mylifeasjessio2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. I wonder if it’s changed at all since this video. Does it go beyond the 2weeks now??
@hammy17045 жыл бұрын
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Justin is way better!
@heyitswesty6 жыл бұрын
I really loved your presentation here thanks
@RedlightBlue6 жыл бұрын
i love your comment thanks
@deldia6 жыл бұрын
Independent works betting because people buy in to real personalities when it come to lessons. For guitars people want brands but for lessons they want individuals. Look at Scott’s bass lessons who has a big personality. I believe Fender actually consulted with Scott about launching Fender play.
@LeviOsaxxx6 жыл бұрын
Great Channel my man!
@RedlightBlue6 жыл бұрын
Thx dude:)
@patricklong92274 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid. I almost signed up!
@lookerephil5 жыл бұрын
Cheers brother, awesome 👏 😎
@nilworm5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review!
@ivanherrera39384 жыл бұрын
I have had it for about a month, and am at level 5. I am getting back into it after not playing for a few years,. I think it is not bad for 10 buck, but I have not tried JustinGuitar yet.
@megatronbee5 жыл бұрын
Songsterr all the way. Pay the 5 bucks and it's glorious, plus it's actually yours now. The best part is that when you see something you don't recognize, you can be like "wtf is that" and look up, for example, "What is the black diamond in guitar tabs?", and you learn by curiosity and anger
@megatronbee5 жыл бұрын
Also, it isn't necessary to buy the app, since they have an app for the web browser version, which has everything as well: looping, speed percentage, soloing an instrument, retuning the song to your guitar's current tuning. It's great. They aren't paying me, I just really love it since it's the best thing since Guitar Pro went subscription based.
@connordamelio67933 жыл бұрын
Deff going to check out Justin guitar site! Thanks
@andreirodin27805 жыл бұрын
You saved a lot of time for me publishing this video. Thank you!
@PaulHikes24 жыл бұрын
Fender Play is outstanding, IMO. Right now it's 3 months free, and you don't need to provide any payment info. Remember, this is for beginners. I've been playing for a year, using various free KZbin resources, including Justin Guitar (which is good). In 3 weeks, I've gotten through 2 of the 5 levels and have improved a lot. Redlight Blue is wrong about part of his review. A beginner cannot get through all of this in two weeks, unless they are a guitar prodigy. This is setup in a way that it can help many users learn to PLAY guitar, rather than learn to play a song. Each lesson has a module that is an instructor lead tutorial, followed by a module that consists of tab with a click track of that tutorial. It's done in a way that encourages repeated drilling of the concepts until you get it right. On the downside, the instructors are a bit dry. That may not suit everyone. What is nice, however is that when you don't feel like going through new lessons or repeating old ones to get concepts down, there is a decent library of songs and riffs setup in the same format: tutorial, then tab for drilling. All things considered, for 90 days free it's fantastic. And once my 90 days are up, I'll go right over to Justin Guitar and will pick up at where ever my playing level at that time dictates.
@alphasxsignal6 жыл бұрын
Guitar Tricks is the best online guitar lesson site.
@aeroshack5 жыл бұрын
I dont believe you should depend on any single teaching source. So much I 'almost understand' from one teacher, but then check out other KZbin teachers for different perspectives before its locked in. Also don't dismiss all the on line 'Written/diagram' stuff on subjects which really helps. JustinGuitar is an awsome free platform (and will be Super Hero status when he has more Android version apps.. nudge nudge, wink).
@angellovesjazz2 жыл бұрын
You can Google open chords and bar chords on day 1 and be on your way. That's exactly what I did. Ofcourse that was 20 years ago 🤣 there were no apps. There's no way I'm paying an app for that. For a pay app they should be offering advance level. They should have a Jazz category. Thanks for the video.
@alexandrebegin50993 жыл бұрын
i found that many of the tabs on fender play were incorrect, sometimes the right notes on the wrong string, also they ignore drop tuning especially for the bass lessons
@drkrd15 жыл бұрын
Redlight Blue -- I'm sure you hear this alot but thanks for saving me $10 a month. I"ll give JustinGuitar a try.
@pkbreeze086 жыл бұрын
I have KZbin Premium, so I haven't seen this advert, thankfully, as I'm sure it would have been every other advert I see. Would you say that finding a good guitar tutorial dedicated KZbin channel combined with something like Justin Guitar would be the best option?
@RedlightBlue6 жыл бұрын
depends on how you learn best! but yeah, i'd recommend following a single program all the way through and getting apps for ear training and fret board memorization practice....... also my channel.......
@DavieMcGuire19906 жыл бұрын
Rocksmith CDLC sorted 😎
@kruzvalero69453 жыл бұрын
I love fender play I never learned how to play I been doing it for 5 days and I can now play 5 songs
@stephanebouchard64595 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for that info !!!!
@herefobeer4 жыл бұрын
I bought my guitar last year, got Fender Play and almost gave up on it. Give it to whoever produced those lessons to make a fun activity boring. You can make byte sized lessons without being a robot. Justin Guitar and the lessons from GarageBand are collection of smaller videos too. And those guys don't look like there is a dude holding a gun up against their heads.
@MRHUS-hu2tu6 жыл бұрын
The ad that I got for this video was yousician
@RedlightBlue6 жыл бұрын
oh no
@markd47685 жыл бұрын
Yousician is free!
@RedlightBlue5 жыл бұрын
@@markd4768 sorta
@hmfernandes14 ай бұрын
I don't understand how a unbiased, unsponsored review of a product is among the first search results on KZbin. Seems like AI isn't so intelligent after all.
@QuanzWrld2 жыл бұрын
What about Simply Guitar? Simply Guitar vs Fender Play Which one is better?
@TheNeighborsTrash6 жыл бұрын
Your Sophia analogy was perfect.
@emmetto44965 жыл бұрын
I got a fender play commercial for this video
@yolandavalentin43333 жыл бұрын
I bought my guitar in a pack and it came with free 3 month fender lessons. I’d say it was good. Did teach me a lot but the lessons expired before I could finish all of them
@jerlewis42916 жыл бұрын
Gibson tried this in the past, was too limited for many people.