Is Gaming Missing Something Now?

It's been a few years now since E3 was thrown into flux with the trade show now just being discontinued it's left gaming with a missing element around this time of year despite events still happening.
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[@Raidraptor_-_Ultimate_Falcon]

Gaming is missing something indeed. It's missing finished products at launch.

[@figuredrawing4912]

Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaax

[@ThoraxtheDarkk]

Try playing better games man.

[@esho6460]

Bad games at launch get all the press. Plenty of finished products at launch by developers that care. Don’t let the few cloud your judgement

[@adamtajhassam9188]

@@ThoraxtheDarkk it dont matter they wil suck u dry - todays games just are not polished and complete in general we are talking todays games not ur indies.

[@ThoraxtheDarkk]

@adamtajhassam9188 seems like you only know about games that are heavily advertised to you Plenty of finished games, with no stores or subscriptions out there.

[@bucky5676]

Gaming has been missing “something” for years. E3 is just a symptom.

[@normancarbury4054]

That missing component is local coop. It loses the social aspect when it's not in person and personal.

[@bucky5676]

@@normancarbury4054 It’s a symptom. This issue stems from gaming becoming mainstream and corporate, leading to bare-minimum products designed for maximum profit. Corporations take over, fire loyal staff, replace them with cheaper labor, and then claim growing pains to gain consumer sympathy. They cut costs further and shift expenses onto consumers through microtransactions on overpriced games and hardware. This results in minimal-spec products and a loss of passion in development, ultimately harming the industry’s future for the sake of profit. It’s like Walmart buying up real estate, driving out mom-and-pop shops, and leaving consumers with limited choices. Indie developers could offer a solution, but they lack support because it threatens corporate profits.

[@MadfireMonkey]

It's funny how Geoff still tries to say everything that happens anywhere near summer game fest is part of summer game fest when it's actually just the 2 hour show

[@jimcarrey2866]

He wants to make his brand a thing

[@cyxceven]

Right? People seem to think he is responsible for all of the shows and presentations happening around the same time. It's weird how easy it is to fool people.

[@JaidynReiman]

Apparently SGF does have game demos at a physical location now. Which is more than it had in prior years. But it us funny how the SGF website lists off all the summer presentations and makes it seem like they're all part of SGF when they're not.

[@krazyd0nut404]

IGN, SGF, Xbox and u Ubisoft all had live events. E3 is dead, so this better than nothing. Sony needs to be there next year.

[@Adamtendo_player_1]

Summer Games Fest isn’t a true gaming event.

[@Mclearmountain]

“Investors” and “shareholders” sullied a beloved hobby.

[@dziankolack9331]

They always do. It’s cyclical though, good hype times will come again

[@adammurray365]

Destroyed it into oblivion.

[@claudiobizama5603]

E3 was made for investors and shareholders

[@Markde9876]

Thank god there are still indies. I love them.

[@babyjiren9676]

The industry has grown too big. It’s too corporate now, too soulless. Everything has become sterilized to the point that there’s no difference between game shows/announcements or any other type of reveal. There’s no room for personality because the risk that investors get worried is too big.

[@HIHi-os1lr]

its always been corporate lil bro. all these companies see as a walking money bag.

[@bodacious117]

@@HIHi-os1lrit has not always been corporate

[@VEN0M415]

Yup, phat cats stepped in and helped at first to bring creativity to a wider audience, but then their never ending greed made them ditch the fun because they have the buyers to lead on and earn a profit off of. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, very applicable to business types.

[@Heruadej]

Always has been ever since Nintendo, Xbox, and PlayStation joined in.

[@FrodoBagginsPotter]

That's modern Sony in a nutshell. Xbox, however, has been on fire lately.

[@oddept]

Was always a goal to go to E3, when finally reaching the age and having a stable income it was ended. Got to love life.

[@IaconDawnshire]

Should have started to save money when you were in your mom's womb! XD

[@DaComebakKid]

​​@IaconDawnshire pfft I've been investing in Coca Cola when I was in my dad's balls. Amateurs 🤣

[@Arcademan09]

I was able to go on the last one, 1st time too, it was a lot of fun and not that expensive if you casually went, I paid maybe 100$ for the weekend pass. Finding a place to stay was worse however

[@pdomicioex]

Same, I finally had enough money to travel to US just to go to E3 and all went to shit...

[@jasonwilliams706]

Was there many times late 90 early 2000’s and then bit later around 2006/7 was an incredible experience

[@brandoncrutchfield2258]

My biggest issue is studios/publishers announcing games years before they’re out. At max they need to be announced a year before they release.

[@PositionOffsetGaming]

Like when they announced Cyberpunk 2077 back around 2013 or 14, but it didn't come out till 2020? (and wasn't actually done till 2022-23)

[@jimcarrey2866]

and that's why there's pretty much no big games coming from PS this year, they're not announcing TLOU3 or X-Men. People wanna have a cake and eat it too

[@altonb.1396]

​@@jimcarrey2866Well maybe they shouldnt focus solely on games that take 4-7 years to make? Its ridiculous to get 1 or 2 max entries in a series per generation when we used to get full trilogies in the span of 6 years.

[@jimcarrey2866]

@@altonb.1396 Yeah I completely agree. That's why they got rid of Jim Ryan. He wanted to shift every studio to a live service factory.

[@provis83]

Honestly these days they kind of need to announce that they are working on them since leaks are near impossible to avoid. Maybe don’t show gameplay though.

[@gligarguy4010]

It's clear Nintendo timed their direct to distance themselves as much as they could from Summer Games Fest. I don't blame them.

[@kahp1072]

It's funny how 10 years ago, people slammed Nintendo for sticking to the digital format and now everybody is copying and the ones doing live events, are lackluster.

[@babyjiren9676]

@@kahp1072 that’s pretty much the history of the industry, Nintendo pioneers and everyone follows for better or worse. Nintendo did the Wii, everyone started with motion controls. Nintendo did the Switch, now handhelds are abundant.

[@mr.smart75]

Same

[@mr.smart75]

@@babyjiren9676Nintendo dominated the handheld market when everyone else was making their stay at home consoles. Right now the switch 2 and Nintendo is looking really good!

[@MegamanX400]

Nintendo has continued to be the leading pioneer in innovation to gaming that is now just standard across all formats that we don't think about. D-Pad Rumble Motion controls And more And you may not like their games, but you can't deny their contribution to gaming as a whole.

[@Arcademan09]

-There's zero excitement -Studios are under no pressure at all to show off their stuff which means no competitive or collaboration edge to it

[@bonecollector5]

When studios had pressure to show off their stuff we had E3's filled with false trailers. Tho looking at the perfect dark trailer I have a feeling we still have those...

[@Arcademan09]

@@bonecollector5 but they still had the idea show off *SOMETHING* , back then they took pride in their work, there's so many amazing moments where something was revealed and the crowd loses it

[@purrpocalypse]

The new generation doesn't want it. They'll see a youtube trailer a week after the event, it doesn't matter seeing it on time. I want to get excited about these conferences and watch them on a discord stream like the old days - And no one shows up. Because they don't understand why any of it matters, or why they should care, or why it would be exciting in the first place. They'll see the "best" stuff on their Tiktok feed, so investing time into understanding the industry is a waste of time. So ultimately the worst stuff with the biggest budgets rise to the top, people think that's what gaming is, and things continue to get worse. Technology, ironically, is killing games.

[@NightFlyStudio]

We're missing that Nintendo Direct. They just hit different.

[@redeyejedi4400]

Even the worst e3 is better than what we have now.

[@AP-sg2ut]

The gaming journalists and content creators gleefully kicked e3 in the grace and here you are

[@azazeln]

Worst E3s were the best E3s.

[@Shadowl]

Oh yeah, a bunch of people taking about diversity and inclusion instead of games is better than we have now.....

[@FTChomp9980]

I remember how bad EA E3 was in 2018 and 2019 man I miss those cringey times and trust me it was bad!

[@lionzcrown1702]

Bs. Ya hated those days and dances and stuff with a Passion lol

[@BMR86]

Did y'all notice the theater where the Summer Games Fest was held wasn't even full? They panned to the audience and you could see half of the back of the seats empty lol

[@KingKarimYT]

People mentioning most modern game missing “soul” is a bit unfair. There’s game like Tears of the Kingdom, The Last of Us, God of War, Elden Ring, Resident Evil and many others that are made with real care. Just because there’s too many live service games being made doesn’t mean these game don’t exist.

[@Benji-Lindz]

Oh my gosh, finally someone in these comments with some sense. Thank goodness there are gamers like you in this world.

[@esho6460]

I have a ton of games and content I’m looking forward too so I don’t feel gaming is missing anything as far as shows/reveals go

[@tomsimmons7673]

Exactly. I watched more than just SGF, State of Play, Xbox Showcase, and Ubisoft. I thought the Future games show last Saturday was by far the best one.

[@socialistprofessor3206]

Those of us in our 40s and remember, we know.

[@KartKing4ever]

Bud, those of us in our late 20s know.

[@danslandmunro351]

Bud those of us in our late teens know

[@ethanhaynes7406]

The last E3 was 5 years ago... anyone who's a videogame enthusiast over 17 definitely knows what E3 is

[@bigox666]

And yet you wasn't there

[@Irrashaimase1]

@@bigox666 Neither were you. "Yet you wasn't"

[@just_a_character]

The problem is we know everything before the show - the internet has killed the allure of a showcase. It was fun when we didn’t know what was going to be announced and now, you are lucky if there is one surprise.

[@DASAINTDON]

I swear Jon’s like the only KZbinr I kno that cares about e3😂

[@archklown2]

probabbly because all the others that actually went were doxxed by E3 in there final year

[@mpholicx2]

No, he's just looking to make another boring video. Same info, different day. That's how he makes his living. More videos, more money. He just reiterates the same info in a different form. A lot like a regular job where you do pretty much the same thing everyday.

[@steveluna1627]

It's lacking soul and quality, so many games release unfinished and unpolished. I liked to buy games day 1 but now I prefer to wait for sales.

[@Aries73]

Soul is the very word that needs to be reintroduced to the gaming industry. The fixation on tech has inadvertently sucked the life from video games.

[@altonb.1396]

​@@Aries73These lifelike graphics are annoying. We play games for escapism not to look at the same sh*t we see in the real world.

[@Corrieography]

Directs >>>> E3

[@kicapanmanis1060]

Hell no.

[@jdmahle]

Gaming is missing games not a showcase.

[@noticeddamian]

PlayStation is missing both 😆

[@j_dun4830]

Dude there's so many games back half of 24, and 2025 is looking stacked!

[@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24]

😐

[@ThePokestopPapi]

What are you on about.

[@LostChildOfTime]

@@ThePokestopPapi How many PS5 games (non-PS4) are released currently? We're 1/2 way through this generation.

[@daviddinenna1157]

it’s like a nfl season with no super bowl the industry deserves e3

[@ralfrodriguez8885]

E3 went to shit when it was open to the public

[@natalscar]

Exactly. Should have stayed a trade show

[@ethanhaynes7406]

Not necessarily, press had a few days to be on the floor and do demos, interviews, etc before the public was allowed in. It just allowed fans to go and talk to their favorite devs and play demos. However, they should have done a bit more to separate the public and press spaces.

[@ralfrodriguez8885]

​@@ethanhaynes7406 And where is E3 now? Even with the early access to media it was still a trade show and was huge. The minute they opened the doors to public it was game over. They tried to monetize but handle it completely wrong. The fans had media coverage, magazines, word of mouth, Internet and with all that hype for upcoming games.

[@devingiles887]

I was feeling the same way, something is just wrong

[@johnmickey5017]

E3 was a trade show for companies to directly speak to print media journalists. Now that companies can directly market video to customers, it serves no purpose. That’s just the reality, there is no economic reason to have E3.

[@kaytee7607]

It did serve a purpose, that was to bring all kinds of gamers together to celebrate gaming.

[@tomsimmons7673]

Bingo!

[@johnmickey5017]

E3 was a business and trade show, not a “bring together gamers” celebration. There are tons of excellent conventions that bring gamers together.

[@NuiYabuko]

It was also an opportunity for devs to talk to other devs and potentially form business relations.

[@kicapanmanis1060]

Yea and it's sad.

[@Un_Popular_Opinions]

Dude the E3 week was like.. the greatest thing! All the news, a whole week-ish of conferences. That’s what we’re missing. A week of conferences. Of great reveals and surprises. All we have now is like.. 2 days of summer games fest and then 2 months of scattered directs. From what I’ve seen, the best direct I’ve seen so far is Xbox.

[@basicallyanon]

What's missing is that most western games coming out nowadays just feels very samey or plays it very safe

[@davidagiel8130]

E3 was a bygone of the broadcast era, after Covid and popularity of KZbin live streams they don't need E3 anymore. As a forum and convention with people gathering for a week of game news is what's missing.

[@KaizenMethod12]

E3 was like an early Christmas for gamers and now we are just left with nothing

[@santelmolafire]

This generation caters an audience that has big demands- in terms of quality, length, uniqueness (or nostalgia), and replayability. The truth is development is struggling to keep up with costs soaring, pushing lengths with crunchtime pressures, and of course running out unique ideas as IPs are being bought by bigger names.

[@VashTown]

E3 kinda grounded the big personalities of the companies by having them all physically in the same space. Some of these characters would bring memorable moments with them, and sometimes memorable moments create these personalities we focus on. I don't know if things like the Reggie/Iwata/Miyamoto trifoce hands-in moment could happen anymore because our interaction with these devs and directors is all prebaked presentations now. Not that most of us live lives comparable to these guys, but back then it felt like we could relate to these gaming bigshots at least a little.

[@kicapanmanis1060]

Agree

[@NeoDrao]

All the gaming news was lacking and crap

[@PLAYER_42069]

It's getting better, but the largest victims of ESA screwing up E3 were indie devs. Most indie devs used to physically go to E3, and get funding from publishers that would tide them over for the rest of the year, so they could finish and release their games. That all went away when the ESA tried to turn E3 into a fan festival instead of focus on it being a business expo. Yes, E-mail, Skype, etc. exists. But I'm referring to early-to-mid 2000s, where indie devs made in-person pitches (with demos) and that could make the difference between funding, or not.

[@tomsimmons7673]

Grubb said on his podcast a lot of that is still occurring.

[@amberblymiller7677]

We didn't have leaks like we do now too so we could truly be in awe and surprised about the announcements

[@hatchetman3662]

Yea, it's missing something it hasn't had since about 2012. A soul.

[@mudachaproductions]

7:46 That disastrous Xbox One reveal you're referencing was its own presentation in May 2013. That's year's E3 was a month after.

[@RMarr-uy9hf]

E3 was my Superbowl, this year it was just a regular bowl 😢

[@MacklinGaming]

I definitely felt the absence of E3 this year, I used to look forward to the 2nd week of June every year and it’s just not the same anymore without the live shows

[@xxnike0629xx]

Times were different back then and the Internet was not as accessible as it is today. I think what you feel like is missing is that feeling of anticipation and excitement, whereas now it's more about seeing if leaks were true and how badly the announcements will disappoint.

[@CuriousCorduroy]

I see what Geoff is trying to do but it might take many years before SGF reaches the size and spectacle of E3, if it ever does.

[@Arcademan09]

You know what i never understood? How come Blizzard always had their yearly conference meetings but not the other studios? I always found that weird

[@sailorkeyblader]

Its missing HUMAN CONNECTION like Fan interaction. Remember when fans use to buy tickets and go to E3 to play the new games before anyone else. Yes, the company tried to commercialize it by selling a lot of tickets but it waa fun

[@tomsimmons7673]

That was only the last few years of E3. I remember when it was a trade show you read about in magazines months after it happened. The internet was barely a thing then.

[@sailorkeyblader]

​@@tomsimmons7673​Didn't they start doing General Public in 2002 or 03? That's not the last few years...there was a few years where they stopped in 2007-2010 before going back to General public

[@calereliya]

"When is the next Nintendo Direct? Eh, next two weeks or something?" THIS is why I miss E3. I miss it being 2-3 days of rapid fire shows that I easily know when the schedule is and what time I need to attempt to have free, rather than things dotted all over a calendar at hodgepodge times. I had forgotten about Sony's until it was already 5 minutes in, and I didn't even know the MS one was happening until it was over.

[@Otome_chan311]

Yup exactly. It also gives me some motive to check out other companies since they're all around the same time. But now it's like... Microsoft? Who cares?

[@karelissomoved1505]

The only thing I miss about E3 is knowing when the direct will happen

[@BlazerManiacNumber96]

Tbf there were some god awful E3 shows. I still remember when Usher performed a 5-minute concert for a stadium full of gaming journalists lol

[@jamesvanvoorhis5864]

I still tell my coworkers that in June I got to go as soon as possible. Working in lumber, it is fairly not understood. It's E3 time.

[@majorasecho]

Definitely miss the good old e3 days. All those times i would skip school, then eventually start to take off mon and tues from work to watch the press conferences and geek out with others online about all the new announcements.

[@Keenan_G]

I remember being devastated when E3 was dying in 2018-19, but hopeful it would survive. And then covid finished it off… Definitely miss E3. The presentations especially. Felt much cooler than the prerecorded trailer dumps we get now. Plus all the news all at once. Rip gaming Christmas :(

[@kicapanmanis1060]

Complete agree. The prerecorded shows are mostly ass.

[@Vike10018]

I do miss it just being 1 event where a bunch is shown

[@zaeranos]

When the E3 was going I spent the entire week watching all the presentations and the livestreams coming from the showfloor. I would watch Pre-E3 shows even the shows I had no interest in such as Bethesda, Electronic Arts and The PC Gaming show. During the E3 I would watch Treehouse Live, Square Enix Presents and Sony's and Microsoft's livestreams. And me living in Europe, that meant I had to haul through the entire night. I saw the morning daylight come up, before I went to bed. When I saw E3 getting more and more livestream and online presence I applauded it. I thought it went in the right direction for reaching a global audience. Then the pandemic happened and even online presence got interrupted. Companies decided they could just do a show whenever they saw fit. This isn't a bad thing, besides that the shows have become your run of the mill shows that you get the entire year long. There is no extra oomph with. The oomph that made me stay up late in the morning. Summer Game Fest I am not inclined to watch at all. I don't really care about the shows that have come in place of the big platforms and big publishers. And I am also missing Treehouse Live and the presentations Sony and SquareEnix would do. Nowadays with Sony and Nintendo being in other periods and only Microsoft participating in summer Game Fest, it is not worth watching. I will just get a summary of the news the next day. I will watch a view trailers and be done with it. Summer Game Fest Opening show is also not fun with all those commercials mixed in. In my opinion, Summer Game Fest isn't worth tuning in for.

[@joes3461]

Sure I do miss the old days of getting that massive E3 EGM magazine in the mail and getting caught all up with the news of E3. As much as I'd like an E3 like game event I don't see it happening like that any more. The times have changed so much. It's like explaining how we oldsters lived with a 56k dial up connection lol! I've said it many times before. Reinventing E3 incorporating cloud tech for game demos and tryouts is probably the best way now to bring it back. All it would take would be a google account to access them. Also have youtube (or some other streaming service, but youtube has the back end that can handle it) be the "stage" for talk, news, and presentations company's would like to show.

[@tomsimmons7673]

And that magazine came months after too. Not this instantaneous news feed. I was gaming long before E3. I won't miss it. Times change. Things end.

[@badassmotha2k]

This is the first year I didn’t miss e3 since the last time I watched it on G4. Thanks to your coverage and watching Jeff Gerstman’s livestreams

[@atribecalledgaming]

I attended E3 2018 and 2019. I can confirm that the lines to play demos were absolutely insane. 2 hours to play Kingdom Hearts 3 for 10 minutes. 1-3 hours to play one match of Super Smash Bros. It was insane but I’d do it again in a heartbeat. Seeing all those booths in person and all the free goodies you’d get made it a fun time

[@Adamtendo_player_1]

Summer games fest is nothing more than a bunch of “celebrities” performing and pretending they care about gaming and the “Game Awards” is nothing more than a glorified version of the Oscars, E3 was the last real gaming event but high costs meant it wasn’t worth it for Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft. Gaming becoming mainstream is what killed it and has attracted the likes of Jeff Kelley who isn’t a true gamer.

[@joegardner851]

The only thing I remembered from the 2019 E3 event was that we had a first showing of Zelda ToTk, Luigi’s Mansion 3, some cool Smash characters reveals and finally saw FF7 remake. In my opinion that was the best E3 showing

[@Sabagastache]

I don't miss E3 specifically, as the ESA never did a good job or changing it from an industry showcase to a customer focused event, but the gravitational pull of the E3 is missing. SGF does okay, but doesn't force developers' presence or having builds ready to go at a certain time. For all the issues of the ESA, they did do a good job with contests bringing in game dev students with free trips and allowing for some more exchange of ideas. GDC and ECGC kind of cover that dev focused meeting nowadays. PAX and Gamescom are probably closer to what E3 wanted to be, but never got there.

[@Agoraphoboy]

E3 was a roar. SGF is a sigh

[@matthewbarrios1028]

You say E3 isn't needed, outdated, an companies don't want it. However, Gamescom and Tokyo Game Show exist just fine.

[@numberoneappgames]

I guess we can call it, summer presentation season!

[@AlBeQuirky]

It's missing human connection. Sure, it is great to be online with people you are far away from, don't get to see often, or just to talk to people. That multiplayer aspect, in the same room, has diverted away so much over the years. Valid reasons for a lot of it too. Many of the people playing games now were born into the digital and online only world. They know of nothing else. At least many don't. Those on this platform and on the social media platforms, forums, etc. are the minority of people. Those of us who grew up playing in front of a tv screen a foot or 2 away from our face and played next to our siblings, cousins, aunts, uncles, parents, grandparents, and friends have grown up, have lives of our own. I yearn for the memories I have, but for it to be realistic, I find to almost not be in the realm of possibility. I'm not sure if I could even do that again. But I do know we need that human connection. That is where gaming is best, where relationships are best.

[@nathanrussell2158]

We will never again see Myamoto come out with a sword and shield.

[@Vigilanteblade]

What is missing is the innabity to plan for it. I absolutely HATE when presentations get dropped without a being announced many months to a year in advance. With E3, I could plan time off around it, watch it with friends, it was all in one week, everyone was there, done. Now, the magic is gone. We lost something special.

[@Jackosaurus117]

E3 didn’t need to end. It was amazing

[@Konsori]

I don't think we need it, but man I reallllllly miss it. I remember watching it every summer growing up, it was the best thing to look forward to.

[@DubsBrown]

The glory of E3 was a corpo having to go on a stage and sell to an audience full of critics with competition before or after. No other industry had such a competitive and performative event and when people messed up the train wreck was hard to ignore.

[@Phiidyn]

I really do miss E3. My mates and I would be clamoring about it weeks in advanced speculating without restraint about who’s going to show what to win the show. Back then it felt like many of the big names at the show were directly competing during the event, stacking the their shows to be as fun-filled or adrenaline pumping as possible to outshine the competitor. I definitely miss that aspect of it as well.

[@jampyplays9729]

I remember watching my first E3 ever when the Resident Evil 2 remake was announced on TV. Resident Evil 2 was one of the first games I ever played, and I knew nothing about E3 before that. It was so exciting that after that, I was eagerly looking forward to watching every E3. The fact that it got canceled so soon after I learned about it is just saddening.

[@daviid27.]

E3 was so cool. Live events are so much better

[@BlazerManiacNumber96]

None of these shows will match the hype of E3. Back-to-back-to-back showcases in front of a live audience, followed by multiple days of interviews and demos. I’m sure it was hard as hell for journalists and PR teams, but goddamn it was always such a good time as a gamer

[@Cordy49]

I'm wasn't old enough or connected enough to gaming news at the time to have any personal knowledge about E3, but based on what people are saying online to me it seems like with E3 it was more like an event while just having a livestream from each publisher just makes it feel quite corporate and down to business. Its like all the companies are saying "Here are the games we want you to spend your money on" and not making a fun event or atmosphere to enjoy

[@pjgarcia79]

Now you got Dreamcastguy overhearing developers at a bar giving him the scoop 😂😂😂

[@krazyd0nut404]

I miss E3, it was a celebration of videogames for a whole week straight, I would use a few vacation days to watch all the showcase, interview and trailers. It was overwhelming and jack pack full of news. This year was okay, better than nothing.

[@the_holy_waffle]

I wouldn’t be opposed to the trade show version of e3 making a comeback. The conversations that could happen there would be a win win for everyone

[@ge0ne0]

Console and PC manufacturers were the heart of these events. They were always unwrapping new technology and better graphics. Now we have hit a plateau. There is no competition and nothing to drive creation and ground breaking ideas. Now the game companies run the show and their greed is front and center.

[@S_Hyde]

Quality, heart, love, passion. The industry in general is missing many things, which sadly got replaced by abussive consultant agencies, crappy ideas and people who think it's healthy to gather together in a place and scream into nothingness. At least there are shining beacons hidden amongst the turds thanks to 2A and indies.

[@pontoppidan123]

E3 was probably my favorite time of year. It felt like a gaming celebration. I was really excited for the games, but also the shows. The stupid cringe performances, the nervous devs on stage, the ridiculous non-gamer executives and so on. Now it's all about the games, which is not necessarily a bad thing, but the presentations themselves were so much fun. I feel sad knowing we will never get another Kevin Butler owns E3 2011 moment again.

[@kamer7687]

Nothing will ever be as hype as the Gamecube Zelda tech demo that was nothing whatsoever like the Zelda game we actually got with Windwaker.

[@cegentry]

It’s missing games. It’s missing quality controllers that don’t break every week. It’s missing polish. It’s missing creativity. It’s missing a whole lot.

[@jared5706]

Xbox / Microsoft are the only ones who still have a little bit of an E3 feel with their fanfest event and in person showcase presentation at their theater

[@christiancsq]

I remember before the pandemic ppl were complaining about e3 not being as good as the years before. Seeing the same game advertised several years consecutively

[@jahjoeka]

All day live coverage of E3 with the G4 team! Damn that was peak!

[@rurikaadachi6405]

Having a single venue where companies and gamers come together annually to showcase their latest and upcoming games and celebrate the medium - that magical experience simply can't be replicated any other way. I was at E3 2015. From walking through the extravagant halls and captivating show floors, to lining up to play the latest games and getting cool swags, to encountering and interacting with industry legends, web personalities, and fellow gamers alike, to witnessing Reggie getting steamrolled by Hungrybox at the Nintendo World Championships, to attending the Final Fantasy concert at the Microsoft Theater - the list goes on - It was a truly memorable experience for me. I doubt there will ever be another such an event in my lifetime.

[@123hellstorm]

Back in the early 90s I loved reading video game magazines about e3 and what was coming out. Especially since the internet was not main stream as it is now and there was no g4 tv to watch.

[@budthecyborg4575]

Going public was the death of E3. Publishers gained nothing by allowing a public audience, if anything it degraded the commercial value of E3 as a hub for business connections. After that the ESA was basically asking videogame companies to pay millions of dollars to run a theme park for one weekend with zero benefit to the people making the games.

[@borisdg]

9:46 - Mortal Combat with "C" 💀

[@mageius]

Biggest problem is there's still things like Gamescom for Europe and TGS for Japan. So it's not like the whole trade show stuff is it still utilized. I just wish that they could bring something back that similar to those events. Because yes it just doesn't feel right for one of the largest markets to not have something.

[@kaytee7607]

Ive been saying this. Losing E3 has left a huge in the gaming industry. It was the best event for all gamer to come together for the love of games…

[@rodrigomanuel1000]

As you said, human interaction is missing, there have been really cool moments when people are on stage showing of the games, for example Keanu in cyberpunk show (e3), the big tree on stage at the same moment (game awards) etc. At a point that the game awards is the best to show games with different interactions (playing in character) or other stuff

[@Neo-ruga]

I definitely miss E3 and the energy around that time. I went to the event several times in the early 2000's. During that time, it was held in May. The June E3 is a little strange for me.

[@neighborhoodbarandgrill]

The lack of competition and interest by these companies to mingle with other companies so the players can compare their options is very troubling for this industry’s future.

[@BrotherKnowledge.]

I just call it the Gaming Holiday. 🤷🏾‍♂️ E3 was soley about vidoe game news, updates, and announcements to me. Considering the fact that this has never stopped or changed, I'm not missing E3. Because everything I got from it is what I am still getting today: gaming news, updates, and announcements. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@chadwicksgaming5552]

I remember going to E3 2017, yeah I waited in line for hours, but it was an amazing experience. I remember a Capcom representative asking my friend and me what we would like from the next Monster Hunter. We both said bring an experience like MH Worlds to switch then shortly after Capcom revealed Monster Hunter Rise.

[@TheSluremus]

E3 was something special. So many iconic moments. "299", "My body is ready", Kevin Butler's speech, Konami's legendary 2010 disaster, iconic reveals like TLoZ: TP in 2004, all covered brilliantly by GameTrailers back in the heyday. And most importantly: Gamers and developers coming together to have an amazing experience. It is so sad that it was ruined by greed. Like so much of the good things in the industry.

[@sunsinger970]

The speed of communication is to fast to need E3.

[@mbphilipblack8993]

SGF is the whole season/period of time it's not just the Opening Night show, it's all the showcases the PS SOP, Xbox Showcase, Indies, other developers like Ubisoft etc. Yes E3 has the location and a more cohesive feel but as we had COVID companies realised they'd be better off saving money and doing it themselves ultimately killing it off especially when the big 3 left. Geoff is doing a commendable job to try and replace something as ENORMOUS. SGF I believe is a fine replacement. Leaker culture has also hurt these showcases as the surprise is often taken away before they've even begun. Plus we still have Gamescon and the GameAwards show so as you said it's been spread out and scatter shot so I understand the desire for something more streamlined.

[@KenDanielMurphy]

I used to ask off work just for E3 like it was the Superbowl or a gamer holiday, now I never know when something is coming out, what games to watch for or when announcements are going to be. I also do not feel nearly as hyped for anything coming out

[@fleshmayfailST]

In my opinion, we could still have E3. I grew up in the early days of G4 and thats how i discovered E3. I was an icons/portal/cheat/judgement day/cinematech guy more than an Attack/xplay guy. To your point, e3 used to just be concerned about being a tech show. everyone else was able to create the production aspect and that is what we loved. People went to get the news to give to us in a variety of interesting ways. So part of the struggle is knowledge is now very easily obtained and another part is E3 tried to be the production and the tech show and the public event. I hear so much about "not needing a production" and "just give us games" but i really think its important to have that hype and have a level of cool extensions of creativity. I appreciate what SGF gives us even though it cant live up to when everyone was excited and doing all they could instead of under deadlines and doing "enough". I just hope that there is a way to capture the magic again in our future. Big fan of all the youtubers who are using their space to iterate on what inspired them but even that space lacks cohesion we had when we all tuned into something like G-Phoria 2003.

[@ChaseSchleich]

I think we're in a weird time in gaming history. We're in between the time of 2 year dev cycles because games were simpler and the future time of 2 year dev cycles when AI takes over a huge percentage of the work. A decade from now we're going to look back and say "remember when games took 5-7 years to make?! How did we ever wait that long?!" We're in the beginning of the AI revolution and it's already taking the designing and rendering of a stadium in a sports game from 6 months and gotten it down to 6 weeks. That's around 5x faster than when it's done by human hands alone and it will keep getting better.

[@AppliedNuggets]

It sucks because the lack of competition and pressure that E3 created will always lower the overall creativity by devs

[@GunsAndOctane]

I really don't think the gaming world is really missing much from E3. It's a shame it's gone, but it's a bigger shame what it became before it just faded into irrelevancy. There were massive highlights but they were honestly the diamonds in rough; between the lackluster announcements, cringe moments and just general presentations that felt like they were orchestrated by a board of executives and completely missing the mark with their target audience. I miss it as much as I wish it was better

[@TamalesDeRajas]

As an Xbox player, I’m very happy that Xbox has kept their E3 schedule where I can always expect a showcase around June 9th.