Is Gen Z Misinformed? Conservative Teens vs Liberals vs Moderates | Middle Ground

[@jubilee]

Hey goodhumans :) don't forget to leave your opinion on the interactive prompt here 👉spectrum.game 👈 appreciate you all creating a space for amazing dialogue and keeping an open mind! ❤

[@SM-vm3wl]

Jubilee, I’d love to see you bring Canadians into conversations like these along with Americans.

[@nonchalantsavagery]

Please start posting full unedited videos so that we can watch the full conversations

[@tomdewitt248]

@@SM-vm3wl You mean Albertans?

[@ShayanSaqiba]

@@oz_peter true 💀

[@Krotas_DeityofConflicts]

1:58 - 2:00 that was weird

[@senoir.]

THEY DIDNT TALK OVER EACH OTHER, they allowed each other to say what they needed before jumping into the conversation, like Chandler putting his hand up a little and waiting for Kerastin to say her opinion before he started talking😭 Wow we need more conversations like this, what an amazing video really

[@danaelona4081]

Exactly. And as a women of color im proud that all minorities whether conservative or liberal feel open enough to speak their mind. Lots of hypocrisy called out and we dhould embrace it.

[@finaldaylight3804]

they actually did talk over each other in the supreme court question

[@senoir.]

@@finaldaylight3804 overall still a lot better than some of the other videos in comparison

[@333tkh]

They are told they aren't allowed to talk until someone is done

[@malditobandito98]

the bar is absolutely low for you, they didn’t really even have a lot of discourse so of course it was real cordial. 😂😭

[@Kez16h]

I swear Chandler chugged 3 energy drinks before going on. The dude spills a book out every minute. Jack should have a podcast. His voice and speaking rhythm is so calming

[@PBWK]

Calming? It sounds like a jackhammer.

[@jeyzahbrown18]

Chandler does have a YT channel, not sure about Jack.

[@Kez16h]

@@PBWK Chandler or Jack? If you're talking about Jack then that's a really slow jackhammer! 😂

[@PBWK]

@@Kez16h lololol sorry I didnt see jack's name. I thought you meant chandler should have a podcast.

[@qq-np8xk]

@@jeyzahbrown18 what is it?

[@t6ra]

crazy how teens can act more mature and respectful than adults

[@Kitty4u]

Are they all teens? I mean that is the impression I'm getting. But gen z is between 10 and 25. So they should have definitely had 20 year olds.. or they should have titles it "teens" instead of gen z.

[@t.fwingproductions3636]

The bar is pretty low 💀

[@ulissesarredondo8674]

They're naive and their world view is based on social media, they will change when the real world hits them.

[@nai1729]

yet they always insult us for being the “immature” ones

[@MaleficHuman]

@@t.fwingproductions3636 lol ong

[@Crazymyffin107]

chandler being like not as dark as you but literally being the same skin tone 🤣🤣🤣

[@axylzarate2118]

[@halifaxx55]

@@axylzarate2118 Lol he was speaking like a true black conservative, thinking he white

[@LittleGreyWolfForge]

@@halifaxx55bro….

[@Rnue]

Maybe he's toNe deaf I dunno

[@nasirferguson4098]

Yeah it was a little crazy😭

[@ՆոլանՊետրոսյան]

Jubilee needs to do Socialists vs Liberals because they clearly have never been taught the difference

[@dcmarvelcomicfans9458]

Facts

[@alberte865]

Truer words were never spoken

[@Penguin-iz5sy]

I have never read something more true in my life

[@bananatreelabs1137]

so true

[@SanskarWagley]

yes

[@kikiyarah27]

24:30 “not as dark as you” and he’s literally the same skin color??? 😭😭😭

[@janaiahlenay2803]

Bro I was coming for this comment !!!! Like what is going on

[@user-wg3or1tu5y]

He’d see this and be like “omg no it’s literally the lighting I’m not dark I’m nothing like youuu!!! “

[@Erirytyri]

Typical black male

[@friendsandindustry]

thank you. I started to get caught up in the program, I'm trying to find the comment.

[@takemetomarz]

exactly whaaat

[@tack3545]

This would have been far more interesting if you had asked them about social issues (guns, trans-rights, abortion rights, racial equality, immigration etc.). As teenagers we do not have much experience with economics and the legislative process. A discussion on social topics would have been far more representative of the current political landscape of American youth.

[@dcmarvelcomicfans9458]

Facts

[@smokedout7129]

The people talking common sense or realism would be hated and everyone would act like they were insane. Those topics are too polarized due to years of media framing/manipulation combined with humans being so gullible and unable to admit when they're wrong.

[@avdrrew]

you learn all of this in high school...so you should know about this lol

[@ADarnSmore]

@@smokedout7129 what better way is there to show how close minded you are than to describe your point of view as "common sense"?

[@tack3545]

@@avdrrew knowing about something and having deeply held personal opinions that you can argue on due to having direct active experience with a topic are two different things

[@HereForTheBeef]

Wow these kids were so much better at having conversation than most of the adults they have on Jubilee 🤯

[@aarontheophilus8111]

I feel like this actually makes a lot of sense. Adults have had longer durations of their believes being reinforced through out life. Meanwhile these teens look like theyre only starting to recognize and understand the world we live in.

[@UnOrthodox_Christian]

For real, that’s what I was going to say as well 😮

[@then35t18]

Not as much time in the brainwashing machine.

[@thecrimsondragon9744]

I noticed the kids in a lot of these videos seem to be a lot more respectful and willing to listen to the other side, whereas the adults can be pretty dogmatic and close minded sometimes.

[@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat]

Adults are busy. Adults are stressed. Adults are tired. Being a kid and figuring out your politics is actually kind of fun. It's interesting. And it's part of finding your identity. When you're an adult, at the end of the day you just want to relax and have a beer and not challenge your core ideals. And after life has kicked you around a few years, you really do lose a lot of patience for other people.

[@blackraven6049]

These kids are all more articulate than some of the overly emotional adults on this channel.

[@no1weezerfan]

the gen z you see on twitter is not an accurate representation of us hahahaha

[@blackraven6049]

@@no1weezerfan I am gen Z and yes they are. Our generation is the most zombified egotistical attention seekers devoid of morality and the ability to have social discourse. The concept of the "loud minority" does not apply because this minority is have societal level impact due to the technology around them and yet they still find stuff to complain about. Our generation is so soft and raised on so much comfort, instant gratification and dare I say privilege (one the left's canonical social justice cause) that society has adopted the delusions of people to be medically sound behaviors and are enacting legislation to impose that onto the population. Social media at large not just twitter have shown these behaviors being repeated. One of the reasons I have not been on IG since September and completing deleting it altogether.

[@DANIEL-xp5jh]

@@no1weezerfanI mean, you’re not wrong, but walking into your local high school will tell you that these kids are definitely exceptions.

[@Noobmaster-pf7go]

These kids are an exception, go to a high school or college campus and you’ll see the complete opposite

[@xander_k_]

@@Noobmaster-pf7godefinitely not true. Older adults are far more emotional about politics.

[@herfish6584]

i like the people they chose. they’re respectful, assertive, and well spoken

[@antoniomolluramusic7778]

they all are simply spewing vague statements the whole time

[@herfish6584]

@@antoniomolluramusic7778 i wasn’t necessarily referring to the contents within their words, but the way they say things. their energy and enthusiasm is what i like particularly.

[@MelMeltalks31]

@@antoniomolluramusic7778 their statements were very clear what didn’t you understand? The questions were about their OPINION -and the way only had a short amount of time.

[@ligiav864]

@@itsnatemate7697 It's simply the truth. You say it as if being dark is a bad thing. I'm a person of color and I didn't consider his comment out of place. He acknowledged that maybe she had a more challenging time because she is darker, while also presenting his experiences as a person of color. It's not a secret that, usually, the darker your skin is, the bigger target you are for discrimination. In the context of your environment ofc.

[@PeterGriffin11]

@@ligiav864 I agree

[@jesswinter]

While I consider myself to be a democrat and very liberal and progressive, I agree that we need to get rid of the party system. Base it off the people and their beliefs and actions. Not off of a label.

[@dcmarvelcomicfans9458]

Liberals and progressives are not the same thing look up the definitions. also I consider myself to be affiliated with the transhumanist party and I identify as a progressive.

[@markelcreek56]

Getting rid of the party system would be a liberal value. Most attempts for measures like ranked choice voting and others have been stopped by conservatives.

[@jesswinter]

@@markelcreek56 interesting, never knew. I just figured it would benefit everyone and give everyone an equal opportunity to win.

[@jesswinter]

@@hoodiek6802 agreed!!

[@markelcreek56]

@@jesswinter the problem is that it would let the person with a majority win, democrats have had majority of america for the last couple decades, the only reason republicans can win is that they use gerimanding tactics as well as fear mongering.

[@elchanito1233]

As a teen I can say it is a rarity to see a group of teenagers that actually understand politics in the same room.

[@DruidHark]

They forgot leftists

[@superking3790]

what an unintresting take from the whole video

[@coochiesl4yer696]

@@superking3790u pissed me off so badly jon even know what to say

[@phanders6236]

most of them don't though

[@arc4859]

Many of them really don’t understand politics especially when it came to the Supreme Court

[@mfabates6717]

This was one of my favorite Jubilee videos ever. As a Gen Z myself it was so cool to see kids my age having meaningful conversations with evidence and reasoning to back up their opinions. Either I’m not looking hard enough or it’s really hard to find people my age who care about politics enough to have conversations like this 😂. I really appreciate this video and all the subject matters brought up and thought everyone was great! This was so inspirational and I can’t wait to watch more videos on Jubilee!

[@Dee-zx9zm]

Just jump online more

[@sanskeboie.e49]

@Hardcoreleftist is he wrong tho?

[@rampagemako5074]

Same tho I would love to meet some of those well spoken informed individuals. If I talked to someone like this I would even start researching political points more 😂

[@xander_k_]

I’m older gen z born in the early 2000s and the majority of people just parrot whatever their parents raised them to believe. If your family is more liberal you’re more likely to also lean in that direction and vice versa.

[@juliettebaenz4368]

LITERALLYYY

[@caliboyrob]

“As someone whose not as dark as you” 🤔 little sir you are the same shade wtf are you talking about!

[@jakiyza4744]

came from twitter im guessing 😂

[@Skillet_Bboy]

*Wtf yous talking about

[@PGSpinelli95]

That all you got from this

[@caliboyrob]

@@PGSpinelli95 it’s what I chose to comment on

[@PGSpinelli95]

@@caliboyrob alright

[@aradine00]

I was very impressed by Jack. He was level headed, thoughtful, insightful and seems to have a promising future ahead of him. Brilliant job!

[@alexpruett21]

Eh, despite his seemingly calm intellect he carries, most of his views are fundamentally wrong. Such as his position on moderates being the answer, he doesn’t understand that centrism is essentially conservatism, because centrism without being progressive you will always be a conservative. Other views such as the party system lie with Chandler’s argument

[@aradine00]

I disagree. I am a moderate democrat and I dislike turmoil in the government, but it is very necessary to make progress. Nevertheless, I believe that moderates are the answer because human nature is never to complete agree on every topic. That is inevitable; but ideas and common beliefs will cater to people from different groups that can agree and therefore push things forward. Unity is very important, after all, we are all human being and most of us aren’t fundamentally evil. Therefore, your comment shows immaturity and a lack of understanding.

[@aradine00]

Edit* beings

[@HaxStudio]

@@aradine00Centrism typically leads to a continuance of the status quo. You don’t necessarily have to be a Democrat to be a progressive, but moderates tend to believe in slow change as to not offend anyone’s sensibilities and that’s unacceptable.

[@Batya-Grace]

I was very impressed by Chandler, although I myself am an independent; Conservative leaning

[@crisdelrey104]

“ As someone who’s not as dark as you”????? They’re damn near the same shade

[@TheLazyLiberal]

We need ranked-choice voting ASAP. Need to be more about their policies, not the party.

[@CPTPlanet85]

That’s on the ballot in my state ( Nevada) this cycle. Hopefully it passes!

[@Random-sk6hm]

Can you explain what this means? (I'm British)

[@simplyepic3258]

@@Random-sk6hm ranked choice is basically when you specify a first choice, second choice, third choice, etc. for each position when voting. More specifically, all the first choice votes get counted, and if nobody has 50% of the vote they eliminate the person with the least votes and for anybody that had that person as their first choice the second choice will be counted and added to the totals. They repeat this process until one of the candidates has at least 50% of the votes.

[@TreyAGeek]

Exactly because once they get in office they work for the corporations

[@luketiernon1636]

it doesn't fit our current society. one of the questions in this video talked about how this is a misinformed generation. ranked-choice voting is contingent on the fact that our society is informed about candidates and their policies. many citizens today follow parties or who they see on TV most rather than researching more about them. so, given the current state of our union, the US is in no shape to adopt this system. while initially, yes, it does seem appealing, it wouldn't fit the uninformed demographic that is present in the US today.

[@subtitlesonplease]

Parker and Jack are great examples of the importance of people skills, when debating and relaying potentially complicated information to varied audiences.

[@rockscracked6161]

100% by far the most educated and articulate people that were chosen

[@Meee22222]

💯👏🏼

[@tomdewitt248]

EDUCATED? DEBATE SKILLS?! They just sat there quietly because they had no counter points but to question? You think asking questions you don't know the answer to is debating? It's one think if you probe them to trap them (like a prosecutor), it's another thing if your world view is being shattered and you literally can't comprehend.

[@lolalitofe2955]

@@tomdewitt248 ong

[@antonhernandez6109]

Chandler was by far the most educated person on the panel. Great debater. Lot’s of passion and wittiness.

[@LilaLouve98]

“the supreme court is not political” Plessy v. Ferguson, Dred Scott, Roe v. Wade, Brown v. Board and Obergefell would beg to differ.

[@Em-un8gw]

I was so shocked when ppl said it wasn’t out of touch

[@Random-sk6hm]

EXACTLY like what are these people on

[@tiarnabananaz]

i was taken aback when they said that like ??? i’m not even from america and i know the supreme court is political LOL

[@LilaLouve98]

@I M giving the power back to the states is political beloved.

[@adultcringe]

It's not meant to be about political parties. It's meant to be a set of chosen, trusted people, who are there to discuss and conclude the legalities of controversial topics, such as abortion, and as of recently, whether it should be up to the state. Such a discussion, if had by professionals who take their power seriously, should have no correlation to the member's political affiliation.

[@aminamcintosh1439]

Chandler was doing well until he made that delusional comment that practically separated the only black female in the group from the rest of them. They are literally the same skin tone and will experience similar prejudice and discrimination; maybe chandler is the type to be blindsided by it and laugh racism off instead. What a shame.

[@25MK]

He really embarrassed himself with his internalised colorism.

[@kayfreeman2011]

He called accessible health care random and lost me completely

[@deeelmeechie]

Many black conservatives wonder why most of the Black community doesn't rock with them.

[@animalfinatic9366]

yeah :(

[@-APD2007]

Boo hoo racism is sooo scawwy 😢

[@valenciawilliams5112]

“Not as dark as you???” Am I blind? They’re similar in color and I didn’t get his point…

[@forteeve3355]

Exactly like the point he was trying to make was baseless.. was it even a point? It was a stunt to increase his proximity to whiteness and farther from his blackness. How are you gonna look at a woman the same complexion as you and tell her straight to her face "I'm not as dark as you." Concerning to say the least..and that type of rhetoric is so revealing.

[@itsnatemate7697]

@@forteeve3355 It’s basically self hatred

[@shelbyspeaks3287]

Gen x-era people are funny af

[@Random-sk6hm]

He's such a pick me

[@stephi6792]

@Jai Trying to delude yourself to be in proximity to another race that you are clearly not, is a form of self hatred. To distance yourself from your own race based on something as arbitrary as skin tone is self hate. It’s not just reserved for black people of course, it’s founded on self hate and can be seen in many races who try to remove themselves from their race due to personal inadequacies and self-esteem issues.

[@chaseanderson4063]

Why is it the young lads of this video are able to get it together and collected better than the adults of the same topics. Hats off to the young adults

[@KingLeno]

Idk maybe because this is an entire show with production and moderators. They didn't just stumble into a bar. There are tons of Jubilee with adults acting just as reasonably on the same topics

[@xander_k_]

They’re smarter than the average adult, and in general generation Z is more well spoken because more exposure to different schools of thought at younger ages due to the internet.

[@Professionallayman]

@@xander_k_ They're actually dumber, as evident from the decline in IQ since 75'. Every generation since the dawn of time exhibits the same behavioural tendencies, none however, as arrogantly as our current "youth" generation, generation Z. Young people have always come into the stage, thinking that their ideas are new and that they have the solution to whatever issue they have been mindfucked to care about. They can't conceptualize that people before them have had a similar disposition that changed as a result of living, experience and the ability to contextualize, ultimately resulting in a more holistic perspective. The irony ofcourse, is that they will get the same treatment once they are older, completeling the cicle, the feedback loop or however you like to see it. It's almost poetic.

[@cbjcrewfan8425]

Cultural diversity is a massive tool that younger generations have much more of than previous ones.

[@bunsenn5064]

I think there’s something about teenagers being around teenagers that makes it easier for them to communicate their ideas. As teenagers, they have at least some level of a shared experience.

[@meli2357]

I would also like to applaud Jack he is extremely intelligent and well educated on politics and is amazing at delivering his view points.

[@getachew.]

100% agree I really do agree with his points, I'm thankful for jubilee giving moderates teens their rep

[@michelleleuch]

I agree! I looked forward to hearing him speak

[@adityadharni5027]

He has a podcast called historia obscura, definitely check his work out

[@chrisandtimothy]

I'm shocked he is very messy on his TikTok live. I agree with his points but he acts like a troll when fighting people about their political views. I'm happy he didn't embarrass me this time.

[@sopliplily2204]

Just because he has a wide vocabulary and speaks slowly like a politician doesn't mean he's intelligent. In fact, most of the smaller factually substantive statements he does make were wrong or misguided. I suspect most people think he's well educated and knowledgeable primarily because of superficial reasons, such as for the manner of how he presented his information and that he's a "moderate," but if I'm wrong and there's another reason please do elaborate.

[@kaylanicole5126]

Anyone else confused when chandler said he noticed the recession in 2007/2008 and had questions. I’m sorry wasn’t he like a baby when that happened?? I was 23 when this came out last year and I hardly remember it. I was 8/9 and I remember gas prices but not necessarily that they were higher. It was just like the first time I noticed them at all

[@mikiminach-i2j]

hes definitely been fed a few lines

[@MOONstrucky8072]

😂Same thing I typed, he doesn't seem to have an opinion that is squarely his own!

[@5v311]

About Chandler. I’m a teen myself and I was like two or three when the crash happened. The fact that this guy acts like he experienced and observed the whole thing is weird cuz he has to be much older than me to have actual memories of observing the crash

[@marcella6223]

I'm def older than him (I was about 7 or 8) and I don't have any clear memories. His 'memory' of it is def sus

[@leilacham9235]

It could also be intergenerational trauma

[@5v311]

@@leilacham9235 then maybe he should have specified that. He said it more as if his whole life was shaped it by it

[@leilacham9235]

I don’t know, I’m just guessing ans I might be wrong! Maybe he doesn’t even know that he has it... not everyone is aware about this specific trauma

[@melaniejuarez627]

he could be nineteen. im nineteen and i remember.

[@simi26]

Jack was such a cool guy omg. He is so incredibly well spoken, he's definitely going places with that level of intelligence and respect :)

[@MathematicalJoeBiden]

Bro I legit said the stuff he said almost word for word before he said it so thank you

[@whybother3116]

Jack is a liberal in disguise

[@moomoothecow3091]

@@MathematicalJoeBiden and who are you?

[@glassofwater281]

I agree, he did great

[@LydiaRel]

He is a misinformed liberal who thinks he is a moderate. He needs to get out of his delusional mind before going anywhere lol

[@fquint6468]

"Not quite as dark as you"...Ummmm whose going to tell him they're basically the same shade💀 no one's looking at him thinking he's a light skinned boy😂

[@MissLadyG99]

You don't have to be light skinned to be lighter than someone else. He is not the same shade as she is.

[@DANIEL-xp5jh]

@@MissLadyG99 they are literally the same shade. And if even they weren’t, their skin color is still pretty indistinguishable for him to make that comment

[@kittykiki4343]

He is delusional. Internalized racism and self hatred is strong in that one. He’s going have a white partner and call black people jigaboo because he believes he is lighter and different than them soon. 😢

[@MissLadyG99]

@@DANIEL-xp5jh I think you might have missed the point in what he said. He was admitting that her experience might be different than her's because he is lighter than she is. He was also letting her know that although he is lighter than her he can relate to some of what she is going through. It wasn't a colorist comment. A colorist person wouldn't have even been understanding of the fact that she can possibly have a different experience than them.

[@DANIEL-xp5jh]

@@MissLadyG99 Except he is not that lighter than her to have that much of a difference in experiences.

[@pimiralii]

🧑🏾‍🦱- as someone who’s not as dark as you👩🏾

[@avrilmercury7895]

I thought I was the only one who noticed that 😂

[@j4genius961]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣LITERALLY

[@cocoputhyxo]

Ahahhahaha

[@Erirytyri]

He's like your typical black male

[@TheBarbequeKid]

When was this said? I can't find it

[@heisenburst]

Chandler was 3 in the housing recession, I'm sure he had plenty of questions

[@Error-pd5gi]

When he said that I laughed out loud. lol

[@kill3008]

that boy is lost

[@Robotpanda89]

He was more like 10 but point still holds

[@heisenburst]

@@Robotpanda89 he’s 18, 2022-18 is 2004 when he was most likely born. Housing recession in 2007-2008. He was 3 or 4. I don’t know where 10 came from.

[@joey5335]

Nah deadass 😭

[@DiegoDahmer]

This group gives me hope in the future with younger generations. They behave and think better than most adults.

[@godhateseveryonewhodoesntr5977]

They are all well spoken, but I'd keep in mind that this is just a small group and that they probably weren't randomly selected. If they look for teens who align with certain politics and invite them for conversation, probably only teens who are actually truly interested in politics will respond.

[@yojo3315]

@@godhateseveryonewhodoesntr5977 To be fair, I did notice they try to be diverse with different people in each category

[@lifeoftalise4390]

Same

[@Amor1990]

@@godhateseveryonewhodoesntr5977just ask them can men get pregnant

[@godhateseveryonewhodoesntr5977]

@@Amor1990 Exactly. I got banned on a subreddit for arguing about the definition of what a woman is

[@a.schmidt3096]

I’m SO here for Parker and not seeing enough appreciation in the comments. Here for the calm challenging of the other kids’ points by asking for examples or bringing up counterpoints. 🙌🏻

[@seyenaeco8417]

We love Parker over here! ❤

[@ceejay_elit]

and the others never really answering his counterpoint lol. Some people think you can just talk fast and clearly and no one will question what you're saying

[@mamaduchess1973]

LITERALLY ME

[@journeejordan3929]

Literally looking for Parker comments rn

[@Bloooo95]

I watched this video literally just for Parker. Saw him on the cover and knew I had to tune in.

[@msnavy97]

He lost me at the skin color comment lmfao

[@missplainjane3905]

Shallow comment

[@sinsin1683]

Did he say he wasn’t as dark as her? He’s the same maybe even darker. Aside from being very rude & impatient this kid might need some reality glasses.

[@forteeve3355]

Self hatred at its finest

[@tobiaslawrence8928]

When I heard that I was like huh?

[@maeveHeyoka]

The issue is he thought it was a different in power

[@omotayosatuyi252]

Where was that said I’m watching this for the first time

[@riptaiyo]

@@forteeve3355 how? She is darker.

[@Mor_timer]

I feel like Chandler came prepared to fight with someone and no one was in the mood 😂😂😂😂💀 kid, calm down 😂

Exactly it! So aggressive my gosh

[@tylerfrank637]

Average Ben Shapiro enjoyer

[@ino6001]

I feel like you are the kind of person who calls black conservatives Uncle T's! 😂

[@orangehub2625]

He watches alot of Ben shapiro and Candace owens.

[@Mor_timer]

@@ino6001 Not really.. I don't mind his being conservative. I just thought he was coming across too aggressively. It's okay to have strong opinions, but presenting them in a calm and collected manner is very important if you're gonna have a civil discussion

[@noahmcc]

Ain’t no way we’re glossing over Chandler saying the war was fantastic bc of how it benefited America 😭😭😭

[@user-kd9wy1bx8w]

That boy is so lost

[@eineperson3689]

Everything he says is just very very very American. He has this kind of perspective you can just have if you grew up in the US that leaves people from all other countries baffled. Especially because he also seems to think that the whole world thinks and works like the US, e.g. when he said something about "humans" always needing to put everything into binary categories. No, that is an American issue, dude

[@iDeagles]

Well, we’re not speaking German or Japanese. Sounds like war can be pretty fantastic to me.

[@eineperson3689]

@@iDeagles How is millions of people getting slaughtered, raped and tortured and hundreds of towns and cities literally getting burned to the ground "fastastic" to you?

[@ralucaghita5961]

I was shocked

[@Malalalaika]

@24:27 yall are literally the same complexion 😂 its like he's trying to separate himself from blackness, yet he will be seen and received as a black person

[@NoU-pf8fc]

He's lightskin, so he'll receive lightskin privileges among the ethnic minoritie groups and even some white communities

[@Xterminatorr]

He is indirectly relaying a different message here. Many people in the comments seem to have surmised incorrectly so let me help you out. He obviously knows that he will still be recieved as one of his own, etc. Think again, surely you can figure out the true meaning of his sentiment.

[@user-yz8fs5zq6z]

Self hatred

[@sm1purplmurderedme583]

yup! he will always be a dark skin boy never light skin ever

[@veronicasanchez4881]

Jack’s face when Chandler said “he wasn’t quite as dark” 😂

[@frogggy5117]

they are the same shade too LMAO

[@christianjane8401]

@@frogggy5117 I literally only came to the comments to see if someone else caught that too 🤣🤣💀

[@ACE112ACE112]

@@christianjane8401 what time stamp?

[@tomdewitt248]

Because half the hate he's received has been from his community. Think that was just an off comment? Guy was too careful with his words; he's faced low IQ, ignorant Leftists before.

[@h3llboyyy407]

@@frogggy5117 as a black person they are a not the same shade just like 2 shades diff but that was still surprising he even mentioned it

[@sms5879]

Chandler making that unnecessary comment to Kerastin says a lot about how thinks of himself.

[@Esflyaway]

100%

[@imanigordon6803]

I mean that comment was cringe but still doesn’t negate the points he was correct on

[@nendu4316]

what comment?

[@youtubewanderer7739]

@@imanigordon6803 could you list 1-2 of the points you thought he was correct on

[@imanigordon6803]

@@youtubewanderer7739 Joe Bidens racism and also the party system being separated.

[@123bobetta]

Impressed by how well spoken Jack was. He was on another level

[@Dios7518]

He sounds like Jeffrey dahmer

[@Thomas-nr6oi]

I thought Chandler spoke better than Jack

[@goodgod326]

@@Thomas-nr6oi Chandler reminded me of Ben Shapiro

[@Dios7518]

@@goodgod326 based

[@novelist5380]

@@Thomas-nr6oi not really

[@sachinnair1613]

This is one of the most informative and disciplined Middle Ground episodes I've seen. It's really interesting to see how each side sees issues without everyone just attacking or arguing with each other

[@Brajancic]

I am impressed on their wide and full of knowledge mindsets. I am happy to know that there are people of my generation that have rational standpoints on politics, rather than tiktok crybabies.

[@AIRRAZOR44]

I wouldn't use rational here - just more open to discourse

[@kierenmont4656]

what is rational about thinking to remove political parties ?? these kids want to end up in North Korea 2.0

[@christinaa8531]

It's a relief to finally see moderate people in these discussions. I feel like I can breathe! Jack really resonated with me.

[@Skibchakeofbskal]

Jack called for a 1 party state. . . (Thats a dictatorship) ;)

[@christinaa8531]

@@Skibchakeofbskal I’d have to rewatch for context since I remember 0 stuff from 6 months ago, but I just want to point out that him resonating with me doesn’t mean I agree 100% just that I found myself agreeing with many things he says in the manner that he says them. We can’t always agree fully, but we can find common ground and appreciate the language and demeanor used.

[@sethwilliams907]

@@Skibchakeofbskal You don't know what a dictatorship is!

[@doobiedoo3302]

Hes advocating for a Nonpartisan democracy. Why would he want a dictatorship you buffoon. @@Skibchakeofbskal

[@TiagoSilvaESC]

@@Skibchakeofbskal no, he called for a no party system

[@garyparsons533]

“If we taxed billionaires they would raise the cost of goods and services” did you just unknowingly admit to the US being a corporate oligarch 😂😂

[@bella_quinn_7724]

Thank you! I was just thinking that!

[@TetoSuperFan]

spoken like a true gen z suburban white kid

[@mouwersor]

Then the problem is the amount of influence the government has over our lives, not some rich guys who might or might not use their power to force policy on us through the state.

[@lastnamefirstname2390]

Not very bright lol.

[@Didurmumdirty]

Well no because they have to make a profit and if you eat into their profits then guess what it harms the consumer. Maybe if you grew up you’d understand how business works. Any extra overheads increases the prices in any industry that’s how it works wether that’s supply or production or any other variable

[@KelfriB]

He says he’s not as dark as her lol I think my guy is colorblind

[@zachcochran5738]

The true takeaway is that this generation is more informed than they give themselves credit for. As a millennial I have grown up and witnessed a major terror attack, 3 recessions, multiple wars, and both crony capitalism and the fall of journalistic integrity. It seems to me this has produced a generation of critical thinkers rather than sheeple.

[@Mor_timer]

I feel like Jack should be on the radio … great voice modulation and quite thoughtful ❤️

[@tana1641]

He has a podcast!

[@meghanwageman742]

I agree. He kind of sounds like Matthew Gray Gubler too LOL

[@amberriley6558]

@@tana1641 what is it called?

[@nikkijacobs6668]

@@amberriley6558 historia obscura

[@julianwilliams8839]

@@amberriley6558 historia obscura

[@sojourner8622]

Did Chandler really just say 'Not as dark as you'? Now sir, I don't know how to break this to you.....

[@eaqua56]

I was like bro, y’all are like the same complexion 😂.

[@Random-sk6hm]

he's such a pick me

[@ino6001]

yall just needed a reason to hate on Chandler 😂

[@chikentendersandfries]

@@ino6001 where’s the hate? They’re just saying that they are very similar to complexion… weird

[@ino6001]

@@chikentendersandfries Bruh people in here commenting he has self-hatred and people calling him bad names for coming out as a conservative was justified is not hate! Am I the delusional one or you?

[@vickyob_83]

This is the best Jubilee video I've seen. Everyone speaking their minds, being very articulate. No one being rude or interupting, and just being very respectful as they all express their ideas and thoughts. I love it. Way more mature than LOTS of the adults we see in these types of videos.

[@lostizplim2052]

Parker is so calm. Everybody is very respectful. That's a WRAP!

[@Jay_Coop]

Jack is giving APUSH teacher energy and I'm here for it

[@JackGranahan]

Haven’t ruled out that career path😂

[@Jay_Coop]

@@JackGranahan I’m sure you’d be fantastic! There’s also some people in the comments who wanna write you in for President… so take your pick 😂

[@Pyasa.shaitan]

@@JackGranahan Lol you should advocate for worker cooperatives and Tax on the rich monopolies.

[@joey5335]

@@JackGranahan u r a socialist not moderate bro bro join the dark side

[@l0verofallthings]

@@JackGranahan you so should! I really enjoyed hearing you speak, and I learnt so much about American history just from hearing you and I'm not even from the US

[@okyeah4sure]

“Not quite as dark as you” LMAOOO Chandler, how deep does that self hatred go? You’re the same shade.

[@tatianaarenae2952]

no seriously

[@lolerene3776]

I did a spit-take no lie. Poor kid

[@okyeah4sure]

@@lolerene3776 honestly so sad :/

[@bw2532]

I literally just said that out loud. He is full of such anger and hatred. Came to a debate to defend capitalism while wearing a shirt that is the result of billionaires wanting to benefit the shareholders and executives over the population.

[@FerretCuddles]

@@bw2532 Hello reddit.

[@packalunch]

jack is the most level headed person there and I hope he does great things in life.

[@christianbrowning1929]

I kinda felt like he was a bit of a nothing burger

[@Thickieeminaj]

@@christianbrowning1929that’s what I got too lol

[@jacobmagnuson8245]

@@christianbrowning1929 His points on partisanship went over your head then

[@Sawsy]

non billionaires wanting tax cuts for billionaires will always shock me lmao i don't think people understand just how much a billion is

[@JamilaJinx]

Look up your tax bracket in each state, in New York you need to make over 150k and you’re considered rich and will get taxed in the same bracket. 40% of 150k is absolutely unfair than someone that makes a million and up. Being rich doesn’t mean 500k and up its someone that fits into their states 1% that’s why I understand tax cuts

[@floff7922]

@@JamilaJinx incorrect, tax brackets only tax the money above the value you make

[@jake.porter]

@@floff7922 also 150k in new york is not “rich”, it is considered middle class.

[@floff7922]

@Some you’re missing the point

[@floff7922]

@Some everyone knows they don’t actually have billions in a bank account somewhere, but they still have more money than 10 people could spend in a life time. They could buy new bmw’s every day and never go broke because the interest on everything they have alone could pay for it. Billionaires are so far above everything their families will never have to work for generations. All because they cheated the system or were born into it. It’s virtually impossible to actually pull yourself up by the boot straps, thats why it’s called that.

[@YoutuberGrudge]

"Random things like universal health care"? That's not random, it's practical to not only reign in the prices but cover everyone, cheaper too.

[@Random-sk6hm]

Me, a Brit with the world-class NHS: Finally someone understands

[@samanthab5006]

The US government subsidizes farming for ingredients that go into the foods that largely contribute to lifestyle related issues like type 2 diabetes and heart disease. I would have less of an issue with universal healthcare if the government would also take steps to divert spending towards increasing the availability of healthy foods to all and providing easier access to different ways to be active. Edited for clarity

[@YoutuberGrudge]

@@samanthab5006 diabetes doesn't always come from diet, sometimes it is just your body having an inability to make insulin. Hence type 1 & type 2.

[@vincarro5078]

Why should we pay taxes to cover someone with healthcare issues if they don't take care of their body in the first place? Free healthcare should be given to those who actually eat healthy and exercise regularly.

[@rissa3163]

@@vincarro5078 Thats an ignorant take.

[@steari]

I’m a moderate and love how these kids represented us. People are pressured into supporting their team instead of having true discussion about what is best for our country and culture

[@jeffersonhassan4558]

Go watch innuendo's video on moderates and check out Martin Luther king's statement on moderates

[@steari]

​@@jeffersonhassan4558 "...over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate" -MLK.. He's talking about a specific race within the party, their lack of action during a specific time period, and regarding a specific movement. You can try and connect those dots in regards to all moderates throughout time, but I'm sure many historical leaders would be disappointed in the divide both parties have caused by forcing people to choose between the two extremities. The polar opposite parties are damaging our ability to communicate as a country or have nuanced opinions. You have to pick a team and almost blindly support their chosen ideologies. I'm on team America, not team red or blue sorry.

[@jeffersonhassan4558]

@@steari there's always a problem that lies when you decide to just stick with the fence, it reeks of inherent bias

[@valkerionrides9879]

Except you have just put yourself in a team "moderate" you just labelled yourself and praised certain people over others because you agree with what they say. You literally just joined their team without even realising.

[@steari]

@@valkerionrides9879 Not at all. I can agree with one side or the other side without feeling that I have to embrace every single ideology. I have friends on both ends. Being moderate is just not associating your identity with either side. "Moderates" don't have specific beliefs. Who knows what other moderates believe and I don't lump myself with them. If anything moderate just means open minded in my opinion. And if moderates start to become dogmatic then that's the wrong name for what I'm personally trying to do. It's not a team; we don't have a mascot. Nice try.

[@jennieshepherd5845]

Go Jack!! What a kid! Well spoken without being overbearing, aggressive, or apologetic. I really wish he would've pushed that dual party system argument further. If people weren't aligned to the expectations of a party we would still have coalitions, but they wouldn't always be changing. There would be freedom to dissent without repercussions.

[@gunki6853]

This debate is probably one of the best ones of seen of my generation. very well informed and well-spoken. Im leaning conservative but loved the way I could relate to all parties.

[@eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063]

Ok - why conservative?

[@jurajslafkovsky4554]

@@eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063 Because that's the way he's leaning

[@TheMrWhite]

@@eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063ok why not

[@Dblchocolatedonut]

Very well informed 💀

[@Max78912]

@@eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063 because they like having more money

[@kamacachiCBlover]

24:27 Chandler needs a mirror bc what?? 😂😭 I clutched my pearls with Kerastin

[@loisbrown4188]

Lol

[@JUSTJEREMY25]

Chandler talks about the black people insulting him for his political ties, but then uses colorism in this video. Bro, you just proved that some of those insults may hold true.

[@forteeve3355]

The whole "I did nothing to provoke them" spiel after his sentiments on him being LIGHTER when he's blatantly the same complexion has me thinking the same.

[@bw2532]

That wasn’t the only contradictory aspect of him. Trying to say billionaires can do things better for the population than the government while simultaneously wearing a shirt with high gas prices that are the result of gas executives limiting supply to increase profits for shareholders and executives is laughable.

[@userunknown1578]

He was acknowledging colorism exists... And that people with darker complexions face it the most.

[@msdd7610]

@@userunknown1578 ?? he did it himself lol

[@userunknown1578]

@@msdd7610 did what? Pointed out colorism? Yes, he did... Apparently, a lot of people in this comment section are ignorant to the fact people with darker complexions face more bullying and discrimination, especially from other black people.

[@jwajed873]

24:30 dude what r u talking abt u r literally the same shade as her😭😭

[@Rabid_Bonsin]

Genuinely love the discourse and conversations. If adults acted like this when it came to debating points of views, we'd be in a much quieter country.

[@importantvideos4529]

Oh so you actually believe kids being on their best behavior for the camera knowing they'll be seen by millions is reflective of how they behave off camera? Sure, people need to learn how to debate without so much emotion, but don't kid yourself into believing this is indicative of reality off camera.

[@kate-ec4pj]

@@importantvideos4529u need therapy

[@importantvideos4529]

@@kate-ec4pj So pointing out the REALITY that kids tend to be on their best behavior when they know they're being recorded and going to be watched by millions of people = "you need therapy"? Explain that ridiculous logic. I'm betting you are incapable of defending your insane comment. I also challenge you to tell me what did I say that was inaccurate? I made ONE statement, that kids tend to be on best behavior when being filmed - You think this is incorrect? I'm sorry if the real world is too challenging for your fragile sensibilities.

[@super_hero2]

@@importantvideos4529dude look at our last presidential election it was live on camera all over the world and compare it to this.

[@Narvella]

As soon as I heard that “Facts over feelings” comment, I immediately laughed out loud 😂

[@Cindy99765]

Also the way she said it was a little forceful lol

[@brooke_emma_nicole3152]

Within the first 20 seconds too.. I was like oh okay 😂 that’s how you’re gonna start LOL

[@summermackay7924]

i know, the way she brought it up doesn’t make much sense

[@Josephiah24]

@@Cindy99765 oh no did it make your tummy hurt

[@localerik]

@@Josephiah24 the Matt Walsh pfp lol

[@morenajazzy]

Who lied to chandler 😂 he literally the same color as that girl ouu chile 24:27😂

[@tpaige5781]

Literally um wtf 😂

[@Seryma86]

Lol he said that in sarcasm and that he can sympathize with her 🤦‍♂️

[@darenrrful]

@@Seryma86 * sarcasm sure-- more likely he just outed himself as a self hating black kid

[@strnvii]

sarcasm, all the libs mad that chandler cooked yalll delulu 😭😭💀💀 imagine being a liberal😂😂

[@vintageryn7217]

Always love to hear Parker talk, he's so well-spoken, and respectful of others' beliefs while also making his points clear ✊️

[@ktape3211]

@@CeoShabba He’s incredibly respectful on his lives I don’t know what you’re referring to. He’s had so many rude and belittling guests and he’s still been polite and open-minded about engaging with them.

[@CeoShabba]

@@ktape3211 from what I’ve seen though im not always there jus when it’s on my fyp page, he most definitely is not open minded, he insults the guests and is not always respectful although I’ll admit he gets a lot of rude guests. And another con of his lives even though it’s not entirely his fault is that his fan base is incredibly toxic constantly belittling anyone with an opposing view with out using any critical thinking skills

[@AlexMorales-qi1yo]

@@CeoShabba i constantly watch and never seen him being insulting or disrespectful

[@JesusDied4U-n9v]

@@AlexMorales-qi1yo You on the wrong page then

[@metallic480]

This is just not true

[@balintkurucz7245]

25:35 I just want to take a second to appreciate Jubilee for creating this platform, for diverse groups to have a conversation with each other. In times where we are so divided politically, this place is absolutely vital. Thank you Jubilee!

[@sethwilliams1901]

truth!

[@noahjpeterson69]

It's a little sad that this is one of the most intelligent, mature, and respectful debates I've seen in a long time. At the same time, it gives me hope that maybe my generation can begin the process of fixing the political mess we're in.

[@dotsdot5608]

these are outliers. most of you are just a wreck. our future looks bleaker than ever tbh

[@cyrus3229]

Agreed.

[@thando493]

Chandler???🙃 That skin tone comment

[@saras2124]

It’s so crazy how every young conservative talks exactly like Ben Shapiro 😂

[@Random-sk6hm]

They're political parrots

[@vajtsim8937]

The truth hurts your feelings... I see...

[@Taserz1]

@@Random-sk6hm Except they repeat facts sooo...

[@blayze995]

Exhibit "A",@@vajtsim8937 They even say the same things as him.

[@btdtpro]

For many people, "doing their own research", just means listening to a slightly smaller media source than a major news network, I.E. Ben Shapiro or what ever the liberal version of Ben Shapiro is.. Steven Bonnell maybe.

[@Iesha_j]

I appreciated this dialogue. Except for chandlers delusion on skin color😂 there’s practically no difference in his skin color to the young woman’s. I don’t see how that was needed to express his related experience. This issue amongst black peoples and skin color could be a topic in itself on Jubilees(assuming there isn’t one)

[@zainaabdalla10]

Literally

[@rhearoo3081]

I was just as shocked as she was when he said that. Like what? 😂 That came off as very colorist and shows a huge problem in the community alive even in that generation. 😮‍💨😬

[@kordei-7839]

He seems delusional

[@chanelwalker5005]

It was super cringey and infuriating! This conversation was without a hitch until his own internalized racism entered the chat. She looked confused and hurt and as usual- handled it "well" . I agree a million percent. We need a discussion on colorisim.

[@Annabellethedoll666]

Because he has self hate. He only said that so that he could feel closer to whiteness

[@koenigkorczak]

I feel like compared to what would count as moderate in my country (Germany), American moderates are quite conservative.

[@cloudofreverie786]

Oh definitely especially in your country. Moderates in America are definitely very conservative in Germany.

[@SilverSlayer23]

@@cloudofreverie786 Oh, also the extremist reactionary faction of Germany was dismantled after ww2

[@melissab3217]

They are conservatives and just don't realize it. Liberals are technically moderate by European standards.

[@miliba]

Moderates in your country like sucking up to the red-green leftists. Anyone who doesnt agree with them is automatically an AfD-supporter

[@GraysonDyed]

Liberals are usually conservative in America, but they’re aesthetically progressive. Liberals still support capitalism, they just recognize systemic social issues. Socialists are not represented by the “liberal” label, but Americans tend to not care about that.

[@jnrworrier3491]

I always found myself looking forward to hearing Parker, Jack and Chandler say their views. They felt the most articulate and passionate about what they were saying yet they could easily back down and let each other speak and even later on, agree with them. Everyone in this video is amazingly respectful and knowledgeable and I love to see them speak together.

[@Dblchocolatedonut]

Chandler was not listening to understand, he was listening to respond and his arguments didn’t make a lot of sense if you actually listen.

[@lntg]

Chandler sounded like the most brainwashed of all of them. And as the commenter below said, he was not listening to understand. It all went in one ear and out the other since he already had his response ready.

[@Skibchakeofbskal]

Jack was calling for a dictatorship in question 2 lmao

[@basementlm4200]

​@@Skibchakeofbskalno he wasn't, he was likely calling for direct democracy or individual politicians without parties. Independent politicians already exist, btw.

[@dotsdot5608]

that's rhetorics for you. you can present false/fallacious statements sound nice enough and people will think it is true.(with regards to Chandler here) well it was a point of discussion from my rhetoric prof in his class, that one time anyway.

[@Picassoblve]

Chandler out here sounding like black ben shapiro😆

[@felicity8062]

Or fast speaking Candace Owens 😂

[@gabrielberrios1306]

Isn’t it great? He obviously did his research, and was making very sound arguments.

[@felicity8062]

@@gabrielberrios1306 Definitely, it gives me hope for the younger generation.

[@connorglaze538]

Turns out Ben has had sex 4 times in his life, not 3

[@felicity8062]

@@connorglaze538 So what...?

[@Dino.nuggies1]

Why did he throw her under the bus by saying “for someone not as dark as you” 😭😭

[@milapa3860]

he’s very lost

[@MarS-dc2qx]

He is the same shade of black that’s the weird part he’s very dark too

[@shaycorry9070]

Omggg! You peeped that too!! 🙄🙄🙄 Little boy you are the same shade of brown as that beautiful girl! Get off your high horse! Relax!

[@kinefall1]

ikr they the same skin color

[@rk2144]

24:26 he in a way ambiguous facially (his features) and cuz he doesn’t have long Afros (that compromise his “ambiguity”) he seems to see himself not as dark as her or “lighter” complexion then she is. Because I bet he heard people telling him he is pretty in some way or another in his life time. Which resulted him viewing himself as lighter.

[@CoachMai]

The saying that goes “…Leave better kids for our planet”…these are the kids 👏🏽

[@TwilightMysts]

Never heard that before, but I like it. I would probably expand it to "Leave a better planet for our kids, and leave better kids for our planet, and the future will be bright."

[@adamtak3128]

You mean the group of kids whom 6/9 thought Billionaires were the solution to our problems? No thanks.

[@CoachMai]

@@TwilightMysts yea, I shortened the quote lol.

[@CozyBunni]

Everyone says it, and then they grow to teens and no one cares, essentially nothing gets done, it's a full circle

[@diegoxquintal]

Parker and Jack 🤝

[@jay_1303]

24:32 WHAT?? HES LITERALLY THE SAME COLOR

[@Iroh12345]

Jack's knowledge, opinions and eloquence: 10/10

[@mofoftriangle]

Jack’s arguments on the dangers of partisanship are on point.

[@sierras3655]

He is one shade away from her. So that comment was s bit delusional

[@missplainjane3905]

Nitpicky

[@missplainjane3905]

Nitpicky

[@sethmanning6108]

Ugh it’s so painful when Chandler thinks only countries the size of South Carolina have universal healthcare. They practically all do lol

[@natarshagunter]

yes, I definitely feel like population size is a bit of an excuse not to consider healthcare. In a country the size of America I think it's probably better that you don't try to force people to fend for themselves, because with a larger population that's already going to be the case more so than in smaller countries.

[@McMcPherson]

Chandler is high on his nationality . Guy wants to sound like the smartest black guy when all he is doing is a clown job. Speaking so aggressively. Speaking straight nonsense

[@rithvikmuthyalapati9754]

@@McMcPherson I don't think it was nonsense, besides the skin color part

[@emmanuelrufai6471]

Nonsense!

[@sethmanning6108]

@@emmanuelrufai6471 One day you will inform yourself rather than relying on conjecture. I pray for you

[@MelMeltalks31]

This video was truly amazing the kid with the blue button up shirt I think stripes (Jack) was just so well spoken and intelligent. He spoke clearly and concisely without having to state facts and numbers while still getting his factual points across. Kept the same tone and demeanor while listening to everyone else!!! I have to find his Instagram or something.

[@jonathanjacob3601]

He has a podcast! - Historia Obscura

[@getachew.]

yess agreed!!

[@diegoxquintal]

Him and Parker were both intelligent and calm

[@abri2189]

@@jonathanjacob3601 don’t see it :( is it on KZbin or Spotify?

[@popito8366]

@@abri2189 spotify

[@jadahunter6588]

Very intrigued by the moderates and Parker. They really are level headed and respectful

[@Geminicricketi]

saanvi in the yellow pants. is a walking contradiction. she said in the beginning senate debates arent available, um yes it is all over youtube. then she said something about politions going back and forth with one another. like make up your mind

[@aurerixa6379]

So are the conservatives

[@jadahunter6588]

@@jonathan_8100 you’re kidding…

[@metallic480]

@@jadahunter6588give an example then

[@PutThatonaPole]

@@metallic480 well no one really interrupted or tried to talk over anybody for one, besides chandler

[@guinnmyahslaysstaymad]

24:28 lmao whose gonna tell him 😂

[@Rxiiven]

Chandler - "I'm not as dark as you" HAHA EXCUSE ME WHAT? YOU'RE LITERALLY THE SAME COLOUR!!!!! 💀 The fact he even thought to mention it though is concerning lmao Chandler sit down buddy, you're both black 🤦

[@amirxh.a]

ong like he rlly thought he did sum there 😂

[@thelyrics5358]

but he is not as dark as the other guy

[@Biobele]

You and your -ism’s I think he was trying to say he wasn’t as high on the “victim pole” as her because she is a woman but you could see he re thought and cancelled those words last minute 😅and had to come up with “I’m not as dark as you” rather than “I’m not as much a victim as you based on the fact that you are a woman and you are black” while I am just black. In actuality He is definitely just as dark in complexion if not darker than her

[@MsXenyy1]

@@thelyrics5358 huh?

[@MsXenyy1]

@@Biobele typical black conservatives thinking saying facts about structural discrimination is acting like a victim.

[@shareekah1]

Did chandelier just say he's not as dark?! 😅 can't be serious

[@midwestthebest3967]

Yea I believe all those kids who were calling him slaves names might have been on to something..

[@shareekah1]

@@midwestthebest3967 screamingggg

[@tadokoropilled]

CHANDELIER LMAOOO

[@mookymilkplays]

He literally....LMAOOOO BRUH

[@MsXenyy1]

💀💀💀

[@Promisetingz]

24:26 Not him claiming not to be as dark as her and I’m looking at them being the same color, undertone and all. I feel like he sees himself less urban than her so feels his blackness is less present.

[@jangomp3]

Yes i believe that is what he was trying to say as well. Like i guess he thinks she has “blacker” features? Idk 🤷🏿‍♂️ I’m trying not to assume the worst out of a teenager

[@jcam5064]

Some people also just have some kind of dysmorphia. My daughter sees herself as lighter than she is, it's come up in conversation where she claimed to be much lighter than a relative. The relative is nearly white passing, and my daughter still thought she was lighter. I was so surprised.

[@ktrover9261]

Black conservatives🤦🏽 I’m noticing a Trend

[@o.ramirez1534]

Possibly also may see himself as “whiter” in some sense. It may be due to insecurities or not accepting who he really is: black.

[@coffevanilla8616]

Nah he is lighter u should see 0:07

[@grospipo20]

Chandler is the classic case of a person repeating talking points but think they are smart

[@zandikhetwayo7444]

It’s the guy who was next to him when he was talking that started laughing for me😭😭

[@zandikhetwayo7444]

It’s the guy who was next to him when he was talking that started laughing for me😭😭

[@zandikhetwayo7444]

It’s the guy who was next to him when he was talking that started laughing for me😭😭

[@itscoolyouhippo]

Because as a Gen Z kid, what does he know about living through the housing crisis? Was he like 3? 4?

[@davisfamily6039]

​@itscoolyouhippo that's what I'm saying like sir weren't you a toddler 😭

[@minervaville]

thank you for adding moderates. As a moderate person, I always get conflicted with my own views, but all I can say is im impressed by this video.

[@quentinm.williams9]

Same. I have always been more moderate when it comes to politics. I find myself agreeing with points from both political parties and find myself going back and forth.

[@dasren]

@@thotslayer9914 Bro sounds like he is demanding something

[@jeffreysmith4586]

I'm also a moderate and agree with you. Honestly though I love being a moderate. I don't see any reason why I should join a party and put myself in a box. I have my own political opinions and I have no reason to make those beliefs easier to explain to others by being in one party or another.

[@standowner6979]

@@thotslayer9914 You expect too much from Moderates.

[@willjapheth23789]

@@standowner6979 oh no, someone who is irritated by the existence of people who don't fit as easily into a binary. Shocker.

[@mikepictor]

I lost it at the billionaires comment. They can't solve the problem, they ARE the problem.

[@kongkiiing]

How?

[@pedrovitor5324]

Sorry, they aren't! XD Thinking the government or the woke mob are the solution is actually a pro establishment solution in reality (And the real problem).

[@infamous_9521]

And so if they were to invest their money in valuable resources and services in an attempt to end suffering they would eliminate the problem. They are the problem, so should they give their money away (or use it on positives) they would fix the problem. So the point remains.

[@melissab3217]

Honestly no one should ever be a billionare.

[@PeterGriffin11]

@@melissab3217 Why? So anyone whose ever worked to be successful should have their money taken away?

[@omnio2043]

This one is going up there as one of my favorite Jubilee videos yet. so very insightful. Always appreciate how respectful they were of each other during these discussions!

[@oldarthurmorgan6319]

Yeah all the kids were amazing

[@quantum7495]

I’m shocked that this didn’t turn into a screaming match like most do. I’m glad these teens are so well spoken

[@no2party]

It's almost as if there's a corporate-government-industrial complex that wants us at each others throats.

[@thesmileyeffect]

Somebody told Chandler that he is light-skinned and he believes it. 🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️

[@kcarter142]

They told him he "wasn't like those other blacks" he created the reason. He's literally the same complexion as her lmao

[@Thesweetgiant]

Well, his name is "Chandler"

[@itsnatemate7697]

@@Thesweetgiant “Klander”

[@emmanuelrufai6471]

Nonsense he is a independent thinker. People who think in the box can't understand these ways. Y'all living in the matrix

[@smokedout7129]

He addressed the colorism topic because black people who aren't democrats and/or as dark have been attacked by other woke black people for not acknowledging it when discussing bigotry in America. Even if they are the same, there's people that will speak about any minor difference in skin tone to make his point less valid than hers. Little did he know addressing it to cover that base is what got him attacked in the comments. Really a "catch 22" moment for him. Oh society, you never cease to amaze me.

[@janetogunani8902]

When chandler said”not a dark as you” boyyyy y’all are the same shade😂😂💀💀

[@justuravergekpopluvinfeminist]

As a moderate Gen z, I have had a lot better conversations with other teens around me than most adults in my life have with each other and on the internet. It's embarrassing and sad but also a great way to prove that we're not immature

[@theta_plays9997]

I think it’s because the last generation grew up with tv news that told them what they wanted to hear while we grew up with the ability to really look into everything

[@jacobmagnuson8245]

@@theta_plays9997 Spot on. Gen Z has a lot of potential.

[@rayquazapasta6272]

To be fair, some of these adults have been discussing and arguing about politics for decades, it’s completely reasonable for them to be tired and agitated about all the topics, not condoning some of there behavior regarding it of course.

[@pelomk9022]

"As someone who is not quite as dark as you" 24:27 Was that even necessary? They're the same color

[@CindyAlexius]

This was such a wonderful and fruitful conversation until Chandler says "As Someone Not Quite As Dark As You" to Kerastin. Clearly he's dealing with colorism; but, more importantly, they're the same complexion! Oh, bless his heart. As a side note, this conversation is 1000s of times better than the recent women conversation. I was so annoyed by the amount of times they had to reset the conversation because those ladies failed to not allow each other to finish their thoughts. Those women can learn so much from these young Americans.

[@lildel7698]

He thinks he’s lightskin lol

[@LeslieDavidson-u9j]

Yeah that was super weird and kind of told on himself, he looks in the mirror and sees something different than what he actually is. skin tone is a neutral thing but he clearly doesn't see it that way.

[@arianedavis4309]

Was waiting to see if anyone caught that .. such a shame to see that intelligent and courageous boy caught up in self-hate the way he exposed himself to be.. I'm a registered independent and as us black people are not a monolith, I love to see the outliers in the community who aren't afraid to deviate from the status quo. However, his comment to that girl who's literally HALF a tone darker than him (if that) revealed that he's not just a free-thinker, but he's also taking on the beauty standards of his newly adopted political cohorts. He clearly thinks his ideological similarities with them extend to his phenotype which is, frankly, cringy.

[@williammckinney5213]

I think it remained a thoughtful conversation even after him mentioning skin tones. I don’t remember it being hateful though, so I am confused there. I was more confused because to me he looked slightly darker even, but really I don’t know and don’t know how it matters. What is colorism and how does it expose him as being self hating? I don’t understand how him saying that he’s not quite as dark makes him self hating. I would greatly appreciate if it could be explained to me.

[@Pumpps]

He wasn’t just talking about her skin color. She has an Afro(something non people of color see as “ghetto”, or “thuggish”. He was basically saying she probably had to deal with more bc of her more African features

[@cierab3076]

I was really taken aback when Chandler said he wasn’t as dark as Kerastin. They’re the same color.

[@smokedout7129]

He addressed the colorism topic because black people who aren't democrats and/or as dark have been attacked by other woke black people for not acknowledging it when discussing bigotry in America. Even if they are the same, there's people that will speak about any minor difference in skin tone to make his point less valid than hers. Little did he know addressing it to cover that base is what got him attacked in the comments. Really a "catch 22" moment for him. Oh society, you never cease to amaze me.

[@lp-zv7zm]

@@smokedout7129 dude I don't know why you've gone through the work to copy and paste this on every comment that talks about chandler's reply. there are so many comments about him saying that because it was completely UNNECESSARY, regardless of the context, and hilariously ironic considering they are the exact same skin tone. get over it bud

[@gabrielavargas8770]

@@lp-zv7zm exactly

[@blingbaby3971]

@@smokedout7129 chandler get off the private page its ok to say what you want from your real account 😅

[@lawtraf8008]

@@smokedout7129 stop copy pasting troll

[@msdaus14]

“Don’t tax billionaires because they will raise prices” is the reason we should not have billionaires.

[@K.2.K]

EXACTLY lmao they will prove that a few individuals control everything, then not realize that they’re a danger to society

[@raymondgstanleyjr]

You can't just take money away from people.

[@adamtak3128]

@@raymondgstanleyjr Yes you can, it's called taxes.

[@doug4431]

@@raymondgstanleyjr Capital owners do it all the time. Where do you think profits come from?

[@Eth_ns]

@@raymondgstanleyjr Billionaires literally become billionaires by taking money away from the working class

[@ROCKBETHENAME]

Bro really said he isn’t as dark as her??? Yall are literally the same shade 🤣🤣

[@Kinsey-42]

15:54 It's surprising to me that some people are pro tax-cuts to billionaires The real rate of tax paid by Bezos and Buffet was less than 1% between 2014-18 I've never understood having so much sympathy for billionaires, but not extending the same sympathy to people who are struggling Unless, I'd assume, you think that billionaires are inherently better people, more worthy somehow? I'm not sure I'd agree with that

[@riptaiyo]

Wdym tax cut for billionaires is tax cuts for us too. There are very few cons that are want high taxes. We all advocate for lower taxes

[@Kinsey-42]

Not sure why, but my reply wouldn't post 🤷‍♂ I was just trying to say to SUNNY! that the progressive tax system allows lawmakers to target policy towards different level of earners

[@K.2.K]

@@riptaiyo dude stop. Trickle down economics destroyed the middle class. It doesn’t work. They don’t let $ trickle down. They just invest in things that help them get even more power. Thinking literal modern day robber barrons will do what’s best for society at large is so moronic

[@pachadela]

Me neither…I can usually empathize with the other side, but tax cuts for billionaires? It’s not even possible for them to spend the money they have, even increased taxes for billionaires wouldn’t affect them, why would they need to pay less…

[@smr9084]

Couldn’t have said it better!