Liberals and Conservatives Are More Similar Than You Think | Spectrum

[@jubilee]

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[@themanisworthit1022]

Joe Mama

[@riss.h2478]

This gonna be well toxic I hope the tories become more accepting of lgbt+ folks they're just like everyone else ❤

[@GalaxyFoxxxx]

Free Palestine 🇵🇸 ♥️

[@remogatron1010]

I am seriously impressed by that Destiny person. I like how he thinks and articulates.

[@taiwoxoxo8120]

Hey could you guys do some videos in London. I'd love to be in one but I'm way too far away!

[@IsraelLlerena]

You guys really have to stop having confusing prompts that would have a double negative if the person disagrees. Instead of “there should not be limitations on free speech” just make the prompt “there should be limitations on free speech”. It’s way easier to not have to jump into the double negative on whether you agree or not.

[@meowateyourchips7417]

Yeah, it’s weird phrasing

[@CassTeaElle]

Or "there should be no limitations on free speech"

[@buggiemara4902]

Yeah i got kinda confused for a bit. It's like "Free speech shouldn't do you no harm." lmao

[@Supertoddy96]

this literally is not a double negative, youre saying 2 complete different things, 1 you shouldnt limit free speech, 2 you should limit free speech, a double negative would be there shouldnt not be for example, this is just basic english

[@Fyrhp]

It's even more confusing for those of us who's first language isn't english...

[@TheAmalaEkpunobi]

As always, thanks for letting me be a part of this! It was great to meet everyone and have some respectful convos.

[@goldenmemes51]

🤎 you were great

[@libbyrodriguez]

@KM-lp4ldYessss that would be great!!

[@CarolineMosesComedy]

That's why I clicked on the video. I thought you were reacting to it until I saw that it's not from your channel. I'm excited to watch this! Of all the Amala Ekpunobis in the world, you're my favorite!

[@shai7207]

🍉

[@hellyeah_ellajane]

This might be construed as superficial but oh well… Your outfit and presentation was stunning (as per usual). While clothes / appearance is perhaps a cursory and limited way of determining how seriously to take someone, it definitely sets you apart as a contender who wants to put their best foot forward, especially in stark contrast to how some of the other participants chose to portray themselves. Thanks for putting yourself out there and for always being so classy!

[@DimesDCP]

If you don’t question or criticize your own party/group/country/etc - you’re blindly following. And blind loyalty is dangerous.

[@thesingleandleastlonely]

Yeah the problem is that everyone believes they questions and criticize their own group. To actually know if you do you have to do a lot of thinking. What I do is I usually just ask myself "would I still believe this if X did it instead of Y? or in other words (lets say im a liberal) "I think people having free speech except calling to violence is okay no matter what. Would I still be okay with it if a conservative person used their free speech to spread their ideology, which is contrary to mine?" or something like that. Just talking to people that disagree with you a lot and trying to think logically helps in general

[@dudeorduuude5211]

Those two liberal peeps were lying, they never criticize their own political leaning, they were the most obvious cult followers there.

[@Random-sk6hm]

My exact thoughts.

[@Jibbertyjabber]

If people truly criticized their party there would be no leftists lol

[@kravan5063]

To be fair he said he wouldn't do it publicly but would do it privately so at the end of the day he's still doing it

[@hannahdriscoll6582]

I was pleasantly surprised how civil and CONSTRUCTIVE this video was. No one was looking for click bait, they actually wanted to have a conversation. I appreciate that. That’s what this country needs.

[@kellymichelley]

What do you mean when you say no one was looking for click bait?

[@zaprct]

@@kellymichelley Probably just meant that no one was looking for click bait. Blossom the world-renowned Black Trans Woman comes to mind.

[@kellymichelley]

​@@zaprct Repeating what she said and what I questioned isn't helpful. What does click bait have to do with this video? If someone specifies that no one is looking for click bait, then who is it that would otherwise be looking for it? The guests? Producers? Audience? I just don't understand what she's referring to.

[@zaprct]

@@kellymichelley it would cover the guests and the producers equally. I referenced Blossom because what she did on the trans libs vs conservative episode was all ‘click bait’ and ‘rage bait’ which was her pulling out dozens of theatrical, melodramatic reactions and making most of the episode all about her “as a black, trans woman” which was the line she would haw to silence all discussion. You can see how much attention the division and theatrics of that episode worked to generate one of their highest viewcounts

[@kellymichelley]

​@@zaprct Oh ok, I'd thought click bait was just something that gets people to click on a video to watch it, such as a compelling thumbnail or video title. Maybe that phrase has evolved to encompass more than that, which I wouldn't be aware of since I'm so out of the loop these days. But how do people know what the content of the video is, before they watch it? Apparently they do, if the video has one of their highest view counts; I just don't understand how.

[@BroccoliAndCheese01]

It’s dangerous not to question your own party. A party is supposed to reflect the values and beliefs of its members, not the other way around. If you find yourself feeling pressured to mould your beliefs to your party, that’s an indicator that your party isn’t functioning properly.

[@JeromeProductions]

yup

[@mesalily-TeHWoRld]

Yes. "A party is supposed to reflect the values and beliefs of it's members, not the other way around." Excellent comment, imo.

[@Lilliathi]

That's what happens when you only have two. Americans don't realize how toxic that is; their political system needs some changes to allow multiple parties.

[@-caspo-]

Well he didn’t say that he doesn’t question his own party, just that he doesn’t criticize his own party publicly. It’s an interesting take which I don’t think I agree with, however it’s not the same as molding your beliefs to fit your party.

[@dogelife7901]

When one party think men can be women, that basically says everything you need to know about their touch with reality.

[@Asianator3000]

Bring destiny and amala more. 2 eloquent intelligent black women on different sides makes for awesome content

[@Jimmy-wj9uu]

🤣

[@shortclub7011]

Are we talking about the same destiny?

[@Tsnackle]

💀

[@honestfriend767]

@@shortclub7011it’s an inside joke. Destiny sounds like a black woman’s name so everyone calls destiny a black woman.

[@sjappiyah4071]

@@honestfriend767 Exactly haha, in fact there was a black woman musical group called “Destiny’s child” back in the day featuring Beyoncé

[@elmunus1]

Just having these people in the same room, and not disrespecting eachothers opinions feels so refreshing.

[@alejandromarmolejo13]

the girl with the pink wig was totally passive aggressively disrespecting the guy in red with the first prompt

[@MsAussieSheila]

@@alejandromarmolejo13 She really has no self awareness about her own side. Absolutely none. She was absolutely shocked at what some people were saying.

[@Lily-wd7dz]

@@alejandromarmolejo13 She's trans. She actually has to deal with the fallout of what conservatives push for. The only people who wouldn't be passive aggressive are the people who don't experience bigotry and have the luxury to not care

[@Rose_in_Blue]

​@@Lily-wd7dz There are humble victims. It's inevitable to be upset, and it's understandable to express your hurt/frustration/anger, but some people work towards being easy on others despite their experience with and fear of bigotry.

[@Lily-wd7dz]

​@@Rose_in_Blue I get what you're saying, but conservatives continually choose to make my life needlessly harder by pushing legislation that prevents my access to medical care and has the potential to criminalize me just for existing. I don't think I will be easy on the people who are actively hurting me with no regard for the damage they do.

[@teaparty7768]

I really appreciate this whole group. Everyone respected each other and didn’t talk over each other

[@Wraiven22]

*Still dying for a liberals vs leftists video, Jubilee!*

[@alyssacdavis8246]

Seconded!

[@microplasticsinurblud]

leftists would embarrass themselves. bad optics

[@VICTORIARAFAELLAMARIASILVADESO]

Strongly agree

[@happymood888]

Liberal vs ShitLib

[@diobrando6910]

Don't tell either side, and get Destiny and Hasan in the same vid lmao.

[@Anchor_Productions]

Videos like this reinforce my beliefs that in person political discussions and online political discussions are two very different things

[@ravenwhiteduck6460]

Online theirs a bunch of narcissists, and yes theirs more then enough narcissistic folks in public

[@TheJoeschmoe777]

Honestly, except for my crazy aunt, ive never had an in person political discussion where things got hostile.

[@killerkraut9179]

The Questions where very soft and vague!

[@netornit]

It's an unwritten rule that everyone is free to be assholes online since they don't have the fear of getting punched in the face. This goes for everyone really regardless of what politics you believe.

[@ArakishiTokugawa]

this is mdoerated and people invited often behave well

[@mengl29]

I'm honestly impressed with this conversation. It was rather civil, and I found myself agreeing and disagreeing with both sides. Well done Jubilee! ( Especially getting Destiny and Amala)

[@Youremythrill18]

Yes my favs too!

[@leep7136]

I also love that they got Mario from gay liberals and gay conservatives

[@chrisglover9700]

Outside of those 2, I don't think anyone was dealing with facts but just emotions.

[@eugenetswong]

Me, too! I was surprised that I agreed with Destiny on a lot of things. This is more useful than Middle Ground, I find. It is less useful for exposing ourselves to different opinions, and more useful for finding people to connect with.

[@MelvixA]

I don’t know why but I was stunned when they had them two on stage by themselves for the promo thing, idk it just kind of took me back a bit

[@katrina7549]

Okay the unity I just witnessed between people who have been polarized for so long is honestly beautiful. This is what I want to see built in society!!

[@purpleclo03]

Best Jubilee episode yet. This was so civil and informative. Everyone discussed. There was no yelling or looking down on. I applaud everyone in this episode.

[@spook6394]

@@Golemrock598if you were there, you woulda ruined the vibe. You’re the negativity here.

[@KhmerTarotReading]

Bright Light Bright A/C More Diverse casts More Braincells casts who got casted in this episode ofc it’s a better video than those dark spotlight video ones 😂

[@ShiftingSkys]

She was super pessimistic... she said next to nothing optimistic.

[@Larissa-eo3pt]

@@ShiftingSkys Yes, you've named two opposing perspectives. Why would someone who chooses pessimism say something optimistic when it is literally the opposite of what they believe? Why would you say "aw that's nice, I'm glad she said that" instead of becoming suspicious that they were being disingenuous and performative?

[@nicholashockings9584]

Agreed. Best group of people I’ve seen on jubilee 😊

[@justasgriskevicius3492]

26:10 Destiny: We created the vaccine Alex: :( Destiny: We have cool guns Alex: :)

[@HasturBeta]

Lol, I clicked on the video without seeing Destiny. So there I am listening to it as background content an heard his voice an knew this episode was goin down as a top 10er

[@AZLANKHAN003]

He didn't even take the vaccine and now his open relationship has ended in divorce.

[@Amoretteig]

Watching that made me laugh so hard lmao

[@MsDudette21]

so weird that people look down on vaccines but think highly of guns

[@juantronftw]

@samueldegrey7718how was it bitchy? lol People don’t realize that’s just how resting faces look. Plus this was supposed to be a joke 😂

[@Mikah-xe1sb]

I love to see Destiny and Amala in the same room.

[@zachariahmah1258]

Two powerfull independent black women even tho they're on opposite sides in politics they do represent well.

[@cananary]

same i watch both of them

[@Warwickz14]

@@zachariahmah1258 i only see 1 black liberal and 1 white conservative

[@CRWeaventure]

Two black women fighting for their beliefs ! 🥹

[@CutiePatutie_SmookiePookieBear]

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[@mattr4379]

Destiny not participating in the group hug at the end...priceless

[@ItsMeRaven]

wdym he joined it at the end lol

[@fallenhero3130]

Amala and Destiny are the two most articulate here, and I like that both of them are on opposing sides.

[@ethandoodlez9987]

two strong black women 🤎

[@Gumblethebear]

@@ethandoodlez9987 No no no, black women get screwed over by black men, not sweedish white women.

[@KM-tx7mn]

They both host shows. So ya they can talk it's their jobs lol

[@shemwell4782]

​@@KM-tx7mnmy queen destiny will always be able to convince me

[@kaydenchan7093]

Destiny has been on Amala’s show before, you can check it out.

[@gobarber2]

This might be the first time I’ve seen both political sides being respectful in a Jubilee discussion video, I’m pleasantly surprised!

[@yautjacetanu]

Yeah they were nice to each other and managed to be clear about their disagreements

[@JMBBrasil]

The conservatives got cut on important points. As always.

[@lawrencecobb2107]

@@JMBBrasil??? They cut and moved on fro meveryones poitns at different times. The conservatives got a ton of speaking time. I’d be amazed if either side got 60% of the air

[@DiabolicalAngel]

I am too. Pleasantly so.

[@TheRealLesterGreen]

Makes you wonder what was edited out though

[@AlexJBell]

Thank you for having me on, Jubilee! It was a pleasure being apart of such a civil and well balanced conversation with some really bright and inspiring people. Hope to be apart of another episode soon!

[@geeksanonymous]

Enjoyed your views you shared when you got a chance. Will definitely be checking you out. Glad Jubilee introduced me to you via this vid.

[@blzt3206]

The most regular person on the show lol

[@danielgomez8776]

​@@blzt3206is that bad?

[@blzt3206]

@@danielgomez8776 …no?

[@idonthavegoodhumor]

hi lol

[@briallt]

I find it iteresting how American politics discusses a lot about gender instead of homelessness and class inequality, didn't expect that to be one of the first points being brought up rather than class division

[@smears6039]

It’s all about the culture war, politicians will do anything but make actual change

[@gregfaber3417]

It's a narrative peddles by the ruling class. They want us to fight amongst ourselves over petty issues rather than come together and actually find solutions to bigger picture matters.

[@anotherday-anotherslay]

because it seems to be a very dividing issue, especially because it breaks so many ideals that are associated with traditional America--nuclear families, the role of men vs. women, freedom of expression--its like the beginning of an entire identity shift (or at least shift in how we understand identity itself)

[@squishmadam]

Gender is part of the culture war stuff that Riki was talking about. Those in power are redirecting attention to something that seems like a big deal but isn't. What is most important *is* the class division, but those in power would rather push race, gender and religion instead because those are so much more divisive.

[@graceruddell7583]

@@squishmadam 100000% totally agree they are afraid of the working class united so they divide us with culture wars

[@cloudy2594]

i actually adore this video. i love how respectful everyone was and how so many misconceptions from both sides got cleared up.

[@CutiePatutie_SmookiePookieBear]

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[@The_raggedyman]

This was very refreshing compared to some of the other Jubille videos. Everyone really allowed each other to speak and it felt like people were actually listening to each other.

[@joshuaw9009]

Cleared up for who? I wish I could watch a KZbin video and feel that, "Phew, I guess we are all the same now.". Lucky you.

[@surprisedadrianlol]

​​@jacobosborn8584 Wow, That's a really weird way to describe Blossom's unwarranted hypocritical scoldings and literal threats of violence.

[@juliekennedy9891]

@jacobosborn8584Eye rolling , in my opinion, is certainly less disrespectful than threats of violence. I agree that Blaire can be abrasive-however, she was on the defensive from the beginning because of the situations and the lose on the other side were pretty combative as well. But at the end, I have to side with her as she never threatened violence.

[@Lara-lt6rt]

You know what would be really interesting? To have an episode of Americans vs the rest of the world (people who came to the US as adults or don't even live in the US) Would love to see Americans hear those opinions

[@annacluckers1698]

omg yes. Because I cringed so hard at like the statement "people outside of america wanna go to america, they are heavily influenced by it" etc, like no you're not that big a deal honey

[@VoVina111]

​@@annacluckers1698I agree that not everybody wants to come to the US, a lot of people dislike it, but the world IS most definitely heavily influenced by the US. I mean look at social media! Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat all came from the US and a lot of the opinions spouted on there are Western views that seep into the rest of the world and has slowly influenced it.

[@adler5653]

@@annacluckers1698 I would strongly disagree with that as someone not from the US. Personally I don't have a big desire to go there because I live in a pretty prosperous country. But for people from less developed countries or people being persecuted for their religion, identity, etc. it very much is a big deal to come to the US. Aside from that the US is the biggest "exporter" of culture. So much so that we don't really see it as american culture, because it's basically everywhere.

[@AverageJoe483]

@@annacluckers1698the United States has the most foreign born citizens in the world. There isn’t even a close second . Then anecdotal speaking. I was in the military and traveled the world . So many people from other countries would say to me “please take me with you”. Much of the world would love to be here .

[@AverageJoe483]

@@adler5653Great points!

[@siofrarafferty3821]

“Let’s be pro life in and out the womb” a very valuable perspective that I wish more conservatives had

[@Bladen1000]

We do

[@littlewigglemonster7691]

Most do no?..

[@ttiger86]

A lot of people think that conservatives are pro war but I’ve met and know Conservatives that aren’t. It’s why Nikki Hailey isn’t that popular of a candidate. She has her supporters but she’s definitely not going to win primary.

[@avaphynx]

​@@Bladen1000clearly y'all don't when Republicans don't think children should have lunch programs, or think children dying from abuse is cheaper than to get them help. Don't believe me? Look up Alaskan Republican child abuse death comment.

[@theonlyonewithgum1452]

@@Bladen1000 Disagree. Conservatives were for cutting free lunches for disadvantaged children. Children. Regardless of their parents' mistakes, a child should always be fed.

[@adne4336]

I hate that Americans just use the term liberal to mean democrat and conservative to mean republican. Liberal is just a very broad term for all ideologies that value human freedom. Conservative is an umbrella term for ideologies that think we shouldn’t be too hasty when making changes. It is totally possible to be a liberal-conservative

[@cheeseburger1960]

Call me a Smartass (or dumbass) but isn‘t liberal-conservative pretty much, or exactly, centralist?

[@salamzander]

Guess I’m a liberal conservative lol

[@scar77bg]

I think both terms have gotten conflated over the years.

[@jamesbond3125]

@@cheeseburger1960yes you are correct. but because the political climate for what is and isnt acceptable is always shifting, it becomes a lot more nuanced than that

[@rai2598]

This is hands down one of the best jubilee episodes yet. The cast was so respectful, educated and civil.

[@ThePositive0ne1]

It's only cause my eyes are teary from watching the hug at the end, but I though "civil" said "evil" and I was like "..wait what". So I was very confused, but we both know it says civil. 😅

[@comicalcatastrophe1865]

Because idiots that are virtually the same tend not to fight

[@angrybirdo]

Educated? Lmao😂😂

[@Anabellovesfood]

lol some are but others are clueless@@angrybirdo

[@glandmajor5430]

This the most diverse group of people ive ever seen, looks like a gta online server.

[@viralshark]

based comment

[@jabby17]

LOL

[@darreldennis7115]

No asians or Indians or Hispanic

[@Kevin-xk3me]

Jubilee goes out of their way to be “diverse” and it’s cringe

[@kant.68]

Yeah it was kinda weird imo. Looks more like a CUT video ,

[@destiny]

Thanks Jubilee and everyone there. Had fun!

[@jonathanmasilela1569]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@Moxie3e]

yo, tell xqc to get off gta rp, and beat forsen pls

[@domiro5295]

You crushed the Jan 6 debate, bravo for fighting back against Alex, very entertaining

[@iwant2haveu]

Too rich to know the American dream is dead for most..

[@dudeguy556]

"America and capitalism" taking credit for the vax was the funniest take. It was a worldwide effort with publicly funded institutions driving the research.

[@shelbymarcotte9126]

I'm always so curious how much of the discourse gets cut out.

[@zboy2020vision]

Def a ton

[@Caleb17-ym6pq]

Now this is a conversation. Everyone was calm and respectful and they listened to the other participants. I am not sure what was cut out but I think this is one of Jubilees best videos.

[@Caleb17-ym6pq]

I was half-expecting everyone would be fighting (verbally and physically) or a lease yelling and swearing at each other.

[@dominicdunn2579]

This was super refreshing, having a very diverse cast really helped people see past common stereotypes. Big up on Destiny and Amala for representing both of their sides while being respectful.

[@alishayin5267]

This was such an important conversation, and I liked how people were actually respectful and calm.

[@123Mathzak]

@@Koiosjv7owIt’s the “loud minority” effect. There’s loud groups of every minority who will always overstate and misrepresent their inequality for selfish reasons. I have autism and I cant tell you how many “helpless victims” I see. The lack of self-accountability is appalling.

[@cananary]

they were smart for putting destiny and amala on the thumbnail. we need a podcast with them together

[@manolytovivi3090]

Yes 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@Nikifuj908]

Amala interviewed Destiny in 2022. It’s on her KZbin channel!

[@teapot4226]

It would be like the rest is politics podcast - must listen

[@iMarcusXBL]

Amala would get destroyed though.

[@seafoam6119]

@@iMarcusXBLnot as badly as destiny’s wife

[@TheJonflannery]

6 months later, and WTF happened to Destiny. He seemed so reasonable in this video. Did dude go off his meds?

[@shub_2146]

Divorced and his kid hates him.

[@ItsTrypto]

He was never that reasonable

[@almond1612]

wait how‘d he change? i dont keep up with him

[@seanlaughery8862]

Its because in person he might have to deal with the consequences.

[@Thishandlewasntavailable111]

Can someone tell me how he changed? I watched the most recent Jubilee video with him and he feels very similar

[@wildestdreams_]

I'm not a conservative, but I do really enjoy listening to Amala speak. Very educated and rational thinking woman!

[@JROB447]

Be careful, she has a tendency to polarize things only to cater to conservative ideas

[@ethandoodlez9987]

I love Amala!!!!! She’s the reason I even watched this

[@francisco444]

She is either used to an echo chamber or just saying useless things: "So, with some of the hate speech laws coming about, I think those needs to be reevaluated and maybe rolled back, because even people who we disagree with or we don't like or we view as evil should be able to espouse their beliefs" - which laws? "wouldn't you rather know who's racist or homophobic?" - Being a racist or homophobe should be a shameful thing, not something to flaunt or espouse freely.

[@loi20]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@JROB447exactly. amala created a political commentary career from pushing sensationalized commentary that other conservatives enjoy consuming!

[@jacksonhoward419]

lol@@loi20

[@samjamwiches]

This is probably the most open, respectful and conversational Jubilee episode I've seen. There was common ground in almost every prompt and I think everyone had a similar stance on the culture war which is ruining these kinds of discussions over party lines. Well done! 👏👏👏

[@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat]

It makes me hopeful that tide is finally slowly starting to turn on this.

[@nylens471]

The mainstream media benefits from dividing us and unfortunately they benefit from a liberal agenda. Also my wife works for the MSNBC, and she has to hide her centrist views at work.

[@rita8274]

I personally think this format works MUCH better for political based discussions since things aren't black and white, people in the same group often don't see things the same way. It fosters a much better environment then your group vs my group, which is already an issue in politics. This was a great group and love to see Jubilee going back to actual discussions/debates.

[@az6462]

Exactly!

[@meekrob29]

If I could magically remove a common political saying from circulation, "you can't yell "fire!" in a crowded theater" would be high on the list. Not only does it originate with Justice Holmes justifying jailing anti-conscription activists, but it also removes the original qualifiers of falsely claiming fire and causing a panic, i.e. the speech is not a crime by itself, it's the damage the reaction causes that the false shouter is responsible for. The way the phrase is used is basically "Hey, we accept some speech restrictions, so why not some more?" People being liable for direct physical harm they willfully incite is nothing like punishing people for offensive speech.

[@YvesTissot5]

Destiny is so inspiring… A strong independent woman who’s not afraid to make her voice heard.

[@nytrellmorrison2203]

Lmao 😂😂

[@UnsettlingGamer]

a single mom who works real hard

[@mathewsk437]

Destiny is male lol

[@mafukun]

@@mathewsk437 pls don't misgender her

[@Localrockstarwannabe]

Why are yall calling him a woman I'm so confused? He was one of the most well spoken people there

[@micah459]

Love seeing Amala and Destiny in the same video

[@xash06]

Same

[@Random-sk6hm]

Fr, two eloquent and powerful black women who represent their sides excellently.

[@UnstableYT-u7k]

13:10 Now that’s what I call finding a middle ground. Destiny and Amala would both make great co hosts together.

[@sharolet_dolly4630]

In an alternate universe, they are 😂

[@ingetout]

Except she would find another host and Destiny would watch from the closet

[@dndrmffln2960]

The better Frenemies

[@TamaraGKing]

This was a great episode! I would love to see a longer conversation with the same people, maybe like a middle ground or something! ❤

[@megadeltsmarcy]

imagine if rational conversations like this could happen at the senate lol

[@Ja79X]

ong like 😭

[@babyfaec]

Most are obviously capable of decent discussion. You're only thinking of the 50 craziest amongst the 500 total.

[@truthprevails4386]

if it wasn't all a dog and pony show it could

[@stephenwithaph1566]

People don't vote for rational conversations.

[@Alex_-oc4bt]

they do, just behind closed doors and relating to how they're going to enrich themselves. Then after those very polite conversations behind closed doors they go out and put on a show for the plebs and useful idiots

[@CactusJack60]

Honestly this is one of the most fair and respectful episodes on Jubilee.

[@stephh1228]

Can Destiny be in all of the political-related spectrum vids? 😂 he was so calm and very thorough! Overall, this was the most calm spectrum video too, sooo yall can bring back the whole cast too lol

[@woodsofchaos]

Now watch yesterday's debate with alex jones to see NOT calm destiny lol

[@bladddeesa]

@@woodsofchaos Destiny did so much prep for that debate just for it to turn out to be a shitshow smh. Hopefully he has a better debate with Glen Greenwald.

[@starward0997]

which One is this destiny person ！?

[@bladddeesa]

@@starward0997 Guy with the goatee in the blue shirt

[@barbrothers2]

@@starward0997 to think all you had to do to answer your question was to actually watch the video you're commenting on...

[@marielasofiadeleon4642]

off topic but mario’s outfit is so cute it’s so put together 🥺🥺

[@mariopresents]

Thank you!

[@micah459]

I love healthy talks between people like this. These guys all seem intelligent and were well-spoken and didn't attack anyone. Great conversation. Now only if we could get the full discussion

[@RoseEyed]

The thing is, it wasn't even a "debate." No one was trying to make the other look wrong or getting overly defensive. They were just explaining their perspectives and experiences. We can't fixate so much on debate that we forget how to actually TALK to people and have conversations.

[@featheroml]

this was a spectrum nto a debate

[@tyler.walker]

@@RoseEyedThis is my favorite type of discussion of differences. My goal when talking to you about my differing opinion is not to try and change your mind about my opinion, but rather to change your mind about the fact that I’m a bad person because of my opinion. Honestly it’s kind of sad this is where the baseline is at in discourse, but oh well 🤷🏻‍♂️😂

[@1000OtherFoxes]

because almost all of them are in the public sphere...They all have a community and a brand to represent, some of them even works for big networks.

[@Random-sk6hm]

This is why I love Spectrum

[@rkoking226]

This just might be the least unhinged people they've had for these type of debates. Plesent conversations and great discussions!

[@el_Foxio]

Seriously. Everyone was very well spoken and had unique and bright ideas.

[@inactive.5680]

why would they be unhinged to you?

[@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat]

@@inactive.5680 Because they're Americans who showed up to a casting call 😂😂

[@0mnislasher1]

they are literally all unhinged

[@ozwaltreacts4709]

Destiny seeing through it with the "If you have the power to do it, you will do it" That's legit insightful truth about human nature.

[@natalievu4399]

But it still needs to be called out & not denied.

[@thetruthispotenza3602]

That's not true tho. If that was true. Than why was the constitution created?

[@eviemaddox3038]

@@thetruthispotenza3602 I think it's human nature, but why morality is important. I know I wouldn't do "it," but how many of us are there?

[@thetruthispotenza3602]

@@eviemaddox3038 I think there are more moral bound people than people think. Our society as a whole is so focused on the immoral nature of humanity. And our media and entertainment industry is obsessed with immorality. I don't think it's a accurate representation to humanity as a whole

[@eviemaddox3038]

@@thetruthispotenza3602 Even most of my Christian friends are obsessed with entertainment and media, and then I see the things Christians in general will do. Idk about the numbers but in my view it’s bad. And sad.

[@justbronson7570]

I'd really love way more civil conversations like this. I found myself seeing the side of just about everyone here as apposed to just everyone being aggressive and hateful

[@natalievu4399]

"You can go to another platform" "You can just block people"

[@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat]

Here is the problem with the "you can just go to another platform" argument that the "public square" counter should always directly and explicitly address: I can say from personal experience, when you ban someone from a mainstream social media site, they don't just go away. People don't just leave the internet. What happens is they will go find somewhere that will allow them, which will absolutely be a radicalizing catalyst in their mindset.. Telling millions of Americans "just go to another platform" is how you strengthen Truth Social and Rumble and 4chan.

[@kellymichelley]

​@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat I wish everyone would see this comment. I can't believe this has never occurred to me, as it is so true and relevant! Most of us are aware that echo chambers are a problem, but what better way to create them than banning people from mainstream platforms and therefore encouraging them to go to platforms full of those who already agree with everything they have to say?

[@ryanbon2414]

@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoatIt quite literally results in online segregation.

[@galacticwarlock2271]

Hate speech only manifest into violence. Freedom of speech and hate speech are not the same thing and freedom of expression does not include hate or violence.

[@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat]

​@@galacticwarlock2271 Thanks Adolf, we definitely want you in charge of what we're allowed to say.

[@gianna.herr.]

I love to watch both Amala and Destiny, they may have different views but they understand each other and agree to a great amount. I love the two point of views and their great role models!

[@dudeguy556]

The same Destiny that said "I'M PRO GEN0CIDE"? Wow, what a great role model.

[@dudeguy556]

Destiny, the twice-divorced father who said he was "pro gen*cide"? What a great role model!

[@gianna.herr.]

@@dudeguy556 well from all the content i’ve seen from him he’s never been disrespectful, easy to have a conversation with, fact driven, and not hurt to be wrong. he may have slipped up on his marriage but that doesn’t define him as a person. for the second thing i have not seen that so if u don’t mind letting me know when he said that i’d love to hear.

[@pinkaltercation]

the pro genocide clip is taken way out of context lol@@gianna.herr.

[@dudeguy556]

@@gianna.herr. ​ You can easily find it on Google if you search "Destiny i'm pro gen*cide" but uncensored. It's a clip of him on a podcast about a month before October 7 saying that the solution to the I-P conflict would be gen*cide of P*lestinians. It's amazing how people will then praise him for being an unbiased truth-seeker, when in reality, all he does is take up the usual US state department talking point and work his way backwards with his "research" to back it up.

[@Nymeria64]

Really liked how well spoken and considerate everyone was in this video. Hope there can be more like this, it was refreshing

[@koboldmaki6014]

As a European, it baffles me every time when an American says that everybody wants to go there or emulate the American way...

[@LomuHabana]

As as fellow European, me too. Some folks here want to go to America, but mostly for a limited period. There are people who stay, but that is often because they have married an American. But most Europeans have no desire to live in America for a substantial period.

[@jimbobshaw7586]

I literally thought the same (NZ and Singapore). I don’t even care to holiday in America 😂 But I do see how the developing world would aspire to be America. Although we’re quickly finding out that the American lifestyle is not sustainable for the world 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@thedukeofchutney468]

@@LomuHabanaAs an American a lot of us feel the same way about you guys. Generally I’ve noticed anecdotally, that if you are a high risk high reward individual with an emphasis on freedom you like America and if you’re lower risk lower reward and have more of an emphasis on safety you’ll prefer Europe. We just have very different values. Both are fine, but very different.

[@LomuHabana]

@@thedukeofchutney468 It’s much less a difference in values than just being used to some country and culture. Most people migrating to the US won’t become very successful nor do they expect/anticipate it. America isn’t really “more free” for the average person either. Americans often seem to be at unease that European countries are so small compared to their country, and apart from Britain and Ireland, there is the language barrier. Among other things. At least that is my experience.

[@Anastazka00]

@@thedukeofchutney468 I agree with the high risk low risk assuption, but the emphasis on freedom? America surely has many qualities, but freedom is not one of them, at least when you compare it to many other countries. It probally depends on the state within America, but there are quite many restrictions in terms of laws that would bother me, as well as social restrictions, the amount of people afraid to voice their opinions or to disagree with their friends is alarming."Political correctness" does not exectlly screams freedom to me. And lets not forget the deliberate attacks of your state on free speach in regards to journalist like Julian Assange, secet services collecting data from random people, etc. Personally I think Europe is overall much better in this aspect, even though I can´t speak for every country.

[@sarahh5604]

Everyone in this video is articulate and considerate of eachother. Id love to see this group do a Middle Ground discussion where they could offer more in-depth talk about these issues.

[@bruuh6291]

Except for like, this one like, Person that... like used the Word "like" like so much like

[@Akuankka000]

@bruuh6291 haha I noticed that too, but that’s just a bad habit, she/he was still speaking their mind respectfully

[@halo2massa]

As a conservative this is what I realized after talking to my liberal friends. In politics no one is on your side. Democrats or Republican it doesn't matter, neither have your best interest in mind. Behind closed doors they both have the same agenda, maintaining their power. Looking back on the way our leaders in Congress and the House act during each presidency shows you who they really are. When Democrats have all the power all the Republican leaders talk about is what they want to do to fix our issues but they can't because Democrats are stopping them. Yet when the time comes for them to hold all the power they do nothing and it happens on both sides. It's just a game to them and as long as they keep their seat in office they win.

[@ca8944]

Establishment

[@ky4864]

So well said. The Clintons, Trumps, Bidens, ect., all run in the same elite circles. None of them know what it’s like to try and make it on 30k or even 100k in this economy. We all get distracted by idealogical and social issues, but really we’ve got to band together and find a better way to live. Those rich folks will never put our interests above their own.

[@imaXkillXya]

@@ca8944the cathedral, the deep state, uniparty, neo cons and neo libs, etc.

[@Bam_Bam_Bam_Bam]

When was the last time one party held all 3 branches of the government so they could do what they wanted? Exactly you cant control the house and not the senate and expect things to get done. Luckily for Americans cause liberals can’t control the need to spend our money and every issue around the world while ignoring America and its border..

[@yeah_i_likeCartoons]

I’ve noticed it too, especially after Israel-Palestine. The amount of ppl in Congress bought by a foreign lobby group is staggering.

[@ilikecats6016]

It was so refreshing to see people with very different backgrounds with different beliefs having a civil conversation where they can acknowledge other's opinions without getting defensive

[@embeetoast2211]

Angel was so taken aback by just the idea that someone using a slur against her shouldn’t be banned. For some reason that is so unsettling to me.

[@CanadianBalll]

Dude wants a dictatorship that supports him

[@pebbles92able]

Because you are a bigot?

[@AppleOfThineEye]

him* Otherwise agreed

[@kaym7704]

On a private platform owned by a private entity with its own TOS…why is this hard for you people to understand? It’s not rocket science.

[@gwbell1207]

Society, as a whole, would be so much better if we could actually get back to having civil discussions like these. Somewhere along the line, we've forgotten how to listen.

[@Nychta_]

These aren’t real discussions. I mean let’s be honest. Everything talked about today was very lukewarm lol

[@chaitea6777]

@@Nychta_we have to start somewhere

[@_blank-_]

@@Nychta_ I was kinda impressed with how both sides seemed to agree that what Israel is doing is f'd up

[@Nychta_]

@@user-le2hu1ct4t you’re downplaying a lot lol.

[@VoVina111]

Blame twitter. It made everybody so aggressive and tribal, staying in an echo chamber while hating the other side

[@loriwinchester1517]

This was a pleasure to watch. No screaming over each other. Phenomenal.

[@davefisch-y1t]

It really was.

[@tungusia459]

I’m actually shook. Everyone was pretty civil and respectful. A beautiful sight to behold ❤️😍 As an Amala fan, thank you Jubilee for including her in this discussion !!

[@teck6492]

This was wonderful. Highly respectful and thoughtful from all sides. Please have more of these!

[@oponomo]

Amala and Destiny doing that little ad in the middle was so adorable. Such awesome wise people.

[@thomaswalmsley8959]

Well tbh it's probably best to get the actual professionals to do your plug for you over the amateurs lol. But I agree it was cute.

[@amandaspear6148]

It took a while, but you nailed it with this episode. Wish it was longer

[@32Theresa]

Yeah I wish they had another channel where they uploaded the full versions of these

[@YourMOM-ob2op]

I agree absolutely hated that they cut off people in what was the middle of very articulate thought

[@mason62100]

They might upload longer stuff on Patreon, not sure, though

[@nathanprime2434]

@@32Theresa Then they wouldnt be able to edit and control the narritives of their videos.

[@Random-sk6hm]

@@32Theresa They always post the full unedited version on Patreon

[@ds5379]

Will always have time for Destiny and Amala. They're both moderate and level-headed representatives of their side, and I would dare say, they're not far off from each other politically. We've been flirting with extremism long enough, and look where it got us, time to bring back centre politics!

[@Caleb-il7om]

Full cuck comments here 🎉🎉🎉

[@CadreRizz]

Nah, Radical politics makes change

[@ds5379]

@@CadreRizz yeah and we have had enough of negative change

[@Caleb-il7om]

@@ds5379 would rather the minimum wage never change and housing to stay stagnant like a nimby

[@CadreRizz]

@@ds5379 Centre politics have led countries into having fascist movements rising from the decaying capitalist system. The world is changing while being centre is not helping that growth into a new world. Change is change.

[@ThisIsRusko]

Great cast this time. No crazy annoying people. All of them had a point and articulated it well

[@rmhartman]

the problem with restrictions on "misinformation" lies with who gets to determine what is misinformation.

[@RockinLoud360]

No. Its pretty easy with science and statistics

[@TheDragon-v7d]

@@RockinLoud360thank you but yet again someone could argue “wHaT iF tHe sCiEnEc iS wRoNg!?!” Which is a fair argument all things considered.

[@alexd4566]

This is kind of a moot point. There are tons of concepts that aren’t well-defined which the courts have to fill in on a case-by-case basis. Though, if we want to criminalize the spread of misinformation, a mens rea ought to be required.

[@notuxnobux]

@@RockinLoud360 Ok, which group is 12% of the population but commits more than half of the crime? I already know that you are going to answer with unscientific reasoning why they are over represented in crime

[@donaldkenne3776]

Same thing with hate speech.

[@eldagarciaaa]

I love that they’re able to effectively have an open conversation. The media easily pins each side against each other; relying on people speaking with emotions rather than communicating and conversing in the manner shown in this video.

[@maddie-ub3ze]

As someone that's an avid watcher of both Destiny and Amala, I can't begin to describe how happy I get when they're onscreen together. Thank you so much Jubilee!

[@cngotham4111]

That have collabed before

[@Faldofishfont]

I’ve found my peopleee 😊

[@teambonerforest8173]

@@dudeguy556 Atleast not watching extremes

[@dhdurhueur-qe5pn]

​@teambonerforest8173 I think its the glazing they're criticizing

[@manolytovivi3090]

Love the collab too.

[@sillylovesongs581]

I have to say this was probably the best group of people I’ve seen on any Jubilee video! Everyone brought great points and perspective and was considerate and respectful of one another when disagreeing. Please have them in more videos!

[@siuwick]

I understand you guys can't make the video so long, but moving to the next prompt in the middle of someone's line felt as if the discussion wasn't actually finished

[@NoseNaris]

Can we expect an extended uncut version? There was some great conversations being had

[@kytexgd1463]

Destiny is such a well spoken young woman

[@johannliebert2870]

*black young woman

[@gisellav2351]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@2nerC9]

young black woman

[@gavin9174]

@@johannliebert2870 young trans black women*

[@thewanabees123]

You misspelled “cuck” but I’m not mad lol

[@profedelasmontanas9023]

My new favorite thing is watching Destiny tiptoe around black conservatives.

[@minipolitician7018]

Finally, a Spectrum where everyone isn’t brain dead!

[@MissGigglesdotcom]

A few are

[@fishhead961]

@@MissGigglesdotcom1

[@seaweed3934]

The pro BLM guy is

[@Jibbertyjabber]

Besides the liberals excluding destiny then yes

[@kaym7704]

Some of the cons were meh…like basically listening to tucker carlson until he realized what he said could land him in court and got fired.

[@heathera4967]

This was such a classy and respectful group of people :)

[@thetruthispotenza3602]

Destiny's true character isn't on display

[@warrenamos535]

@@thetruthispotenza3602 lol facts

[@A2mod3u2]

@thetruthispotenza3602 wdym here?

[@Ilovedancingwitu]

The girl in the red is extremely homophobic

[@hemangmathur2823]

We have the same pfp!!!

[@dalodulo1373]

This was one of the better and more even keeled exchanges. I hope to see alot more of these. Kudos to everyone for being respectful for the most part.

[@AustinAx]

Why did they cut so much out?

[@hadleysage6705]

My heart warmed when the conservative lumberjack smiled when the liberal guy said "I think our guns are really cool."

[@moonknight2865]

Lmao you Americans and your guns. Such an obsession.

[@genesishale7523]

This was really soothing, I could listen to this group of people speak for hours

[@mairead2057]

Destiny hardcore hesitating to hug anyone at the end has me cracking up

[@creestee08]

Well yknow what happened between him and his wife.

[@annabethmoo1213]

the standing away before awkwardly hugging one person oh my LORD BAHAHAHAHAH

[@Improudofyou99]

Maybe Destiny should've listened to Destiny 6 months ago when he talked about demonization of political opponents. It's like November 2016 Hillary should've listened to October 2016 Hillary about elections being rigged or stolen.

[@clareashcraft3411]

Petition for Amala and Destiny to cohost a show

[@100AcreWoodz1]

2 black women having a reasonable discussion

[@HemholtzWatson]

Destiny doesn't resemble a black woman 🤔

[@thedukeofchutney468]

@@HemholtzWatson whoosh 💨

[@HemholtzWatson]

@@thedukeofchutney468 apparently 🤔

[@PrescillaM-hq8gp]

So refreshing to see such a diverse group on both sides all express their ideas respectfully to one another! Well done!

[@sticklerbestickling]

I just gotta say, Peter Boghossian was who popularized this process of convo with the prompt & the lines & people, generally on campuses, are often so vile toward him. It’s such a great tool & I’m glad to see other platforms using it for convo, but it’s so interesting to see how much more accepted it is when it comes from a liberal platform. If you read this & haven’t watched Peter Boghossian, I highly recommend you go watch his videos.

[@Snakmachine]

Jubilee should be giving Boghossian credit and pointing people to his work since they obviously got the idea from him. They're making money from these views and the least they can do is credit him.

[@leslie3188]

yes i love peter’s videos such important conversations are happening in his channel !

[@iiiiiiiiiiii90000000]

Peter Boghossian is classically liberal though, not conservative.

[@tb8654]

​@@Snakmachine this style of interviewing and/or studying a person has literally existed before Peter's KZbin channel as it's an easy way to see how people are socially impacted when questioned about their stances in public, your logic here is the equivalent of someone telling a rapper they they need to pay homage to Eminem since Eminem helped to globalize rap music lol

[@djgroopz4952]

💯

[@jaminsoncampbell7507]

i am a disabled person and i believe the American dream is still alive for people like me we just have to fight for it a little harder because of the limitations that we face either by the government that doesn't care about us or the limitations that we put on ourselves because of the disability that we deal with

[@sammgriffith5992]

This video was extremely well cast. Everybody in this episode had great insights and really contributed to the conversation in a meaningful way

[@jaime6633]

I liked this group of people. I did struggle with the last prompt because I feel like no matter what angle we try, we cannot stop drowning in bills and debt long enough to get ahead. We can buy nothing but the minimum and then our savings gets wiped out by needing a car, any repairs, any appliance. It can be disheartening and I really felt the person trying to get this point across. I missed their name but the pink hair 🤍 I’ve been ahead in life and it’s so hard when you have set backs. The mental and physical stress I feel from trying to get back to it takes a toll on me every day and it’s been years now of trying. I could see everyone’s points but I really wish this country could help its own people in the ways we need it. The government is too greedy.

[@DeplorableCatholic]

Im wondering if you embrace the conservative viewpoint: Government should be limited because politicians are easily corrupted, private industry is better at making and distributing opportunity, and the Constitution is intended to restrict federal power over the people. Or the liberal viewpoint: Government should be doing more to help the people because they have huge stock piles of money, the power to curtail discriminatory practices, and the Constitution lists “general welfare” as a responsibility of the government. (Full disclosure: I am a Conservative.)

[@DavidGonzalez-hv2sw]

The way Alex smiled when Destiny mentioned guns lmao 26:15

[@kaym7704]

Vaccine bad..guns guuud.

[@adityananta7677]

I love how Mario always brought up real examples in every prompt, such as strong word❤

[@TrevieTrev]

Amala and Destiny this is about to be great 🍿

[@Venomenal91]

Amala is such a well spoken lady, thank you for inviting her on this 😊

[@jess7539]

the destiny and amala ad halfway through is so funny. they both look like they've been forced to stand next to each other lmao

[@bigorange4919]

I love how Mario is wearing red and overalls

[@MrJames1471]

All Mario needed was a cap to complete the fit 😆

[@NeidenHalffur]

This so interesting to see. I have to say that I have a little of both sides, although I identify as a liberal, so it's nice to see them talking in a respectful way for once and sharing opinions.

[@Jibbertyjabber]

If people truly criticized their party there would be no leftists/liberals lol "The white liberal is the greatest threat to America" Malcom X

[@Need4Speed5000]

Thank you for actually bringing on people that can have a peaceful discussion without yelling over each other and actually seemed friendly with each other.

[@PixiiBomb]

I think part of being an adult is not letting your emotions control you, and not letting "sticks and stones break your bones" Yes, people say hurtful things. Yes, it's ok to feel hurt by the things people say. I do not think people should be going around intentionally hurting other people. But part of growing up and being an adult is learning to navigate when people don't like you. Learning to have compassion for people you don't like or who don't like you. These lessons make YOU stronger and help YOU grow. Everyone is at different points in their life journey. You can't FORCE people to speak to you a certain way. But you do have control over yourself and you can control how you respond to situations and words you don't like hearing, and over time those words you don't like hearing... you have the ability to just brush them off and they no longer hurt you. This is why I oppose rewriting definitions of words. We curb our speech around children to protect them because their brains aren't fully developed. If we treat adults like children, they will never grow up.

[@steph3819]

This was definitely the best Jubilee video made so far. Everyone was open-minded but were all able to speak their opinions. It honestly gives me home in society, and I hope that both sides can learn from these people.

[@Twilight2Dawn]

Such a respectful cast this time around

[@Ren-ns3lo]

This conversation actually made me feel pretty hopeful. ❤