Is Genghis Khan Ancestor of the Millions?

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[@KingsandGenerals]

This is the most scientific video in the history of our channel. I will cry so much if it fails. Like, comment, and share - we can't afford to raise the sea levels even more. Original title of the video was "Is Genghis Khan Your Daddy?", but we decided against it...

[@sitproperlywhilewatchingph423]

Genghis Khan : if I don't have a army I will make one . But iam disappointed after knowing that he is not a breeding machine lol .

[@Jon.A.Scholt]

Anyone else get transplanted to Salusa Secundus and that Sardaukar scene from Dune when the throat singing started in this vid?

[@AXXXOLO]

should have kept the original title

[@sitproperlywhilewatchingph423]

The original title is savage lol 😂

[@ememmeme8722]

Why did you reupload?

[@HistoryDose]

Love this kind of content. The internet can perpetuate “meme history,” and some course correction is appreciated

[@ManiacMayhem7256]

Yes sadly meme history is very very popular, and tends to shape how people think far more than any hard working historians or enthusiasts

[@edmanne]

Hey, my favorite history channel commented on the video of another great history channel I’m subscribed to! That’s neat. Like seeing your teacher at the mall as a kid, you don’t think about how KZbin channels are run by people who probably also watch KZbin. Haha.

[@logank444]

History dose your stuff is also awesome, thank god for KZbin

[@HistoryDose]

@@logank444 thanks!

[@aSSGoblin1488]

ultimate chad temujin

[@princepscivitatis4083]

I always thought the whole Genghis Khan ancestor trope in Asia was similar to that of Charlemagne's in Europe. And I find it ironic that even though nobody believed Genghis' heir was his spawn (due to his wife being held in captivity when she got pregnant) and ridiculed the kid for it, Genghis always stood by him and pressed the fact that he was indeed his lawful son.

[@adityaanggaisback937]

Genghis second son:lawful son? I disagree

[@Ttegegg]

Time for a kid fight

[@m.zahidiftikhar6818]

@@adityaanggaisback937 were you hiding in the closet? LOL...

[@n.v.9000]

@@adityaanggaisback937 the man are dead, and still you judge them...soo sad

[@n.v.9000]

it was based on mathematical hypothesis(exponential growth) that if no one ever cheated anybody in the history of the world then going back there would be more people in your families tree by the time of Charlemagne then there was people born on this planet ever...the hypothesis suggested we are morally bankrupt or we never had any morals at all but like to think of our self as better beings(soul is also a concept that tries to make us better then we are.....

[@aegystierone8505]

It's kind of amazing that the Hazaras still exists as a distinct ethnic group in Afghanistan, their physical appearance certainly stood out compared to the other ethnicities.

[@teovu5557]

Turkmens,Uzbeks and pamiri krygyz of afghanistan are also heavy East Asian looking not just the Hazaras.

[@mubarizchangezi3297]

@@teovu5557 The Hazarapeople have a more Mongolian influenced culture and language than any of the other cultures in the whole region

[@buraksimsek7264]

@@teovu5557 East Eurasian*. Turkic people are not East Asian but Siberian + East Eurasian.

[@kaliskunkog2255]

Culture is a big influence on identity not just genetics. Only white people are obsessed with genetics. What's more important? Two people looking exactly the same but can't communicate or two people that share history and can communicate with one another?

[@cyrusthegreat1893]

@@teovu5557 And they all are mixed with Persians.

[@hamzaferoz6162]

Actually Hazaras know that they aren't Chinggis's Descendants. Hazaras are also tribal and many know they are descendants of regular Mongols.

[@teovu5557]

Fun fact: half of the hazaras tribes match Mongolian tribes almost word for word.

[@mehdikhan9827]

First of all proud to be Hazara. We hazaras have many tribes that differentiate between eachother such as when turkomongol warriors came to persia and present day afghanistan pakistan etc . because of the distance to go back to central asia and mongolia was Long, Hazaras took local wifes from wherever they were stationed, Thats what makes the hazaras and central asians Such a cluster of different ethnic group mixed in one.

[@hamzaferoz6162]

@@mehdikhan9827 Exactly.

[@mubarizchangezi3297]

The Hazaras have a more Mongolian based culture and take pride on their ancestors linked to genghis khan than any other culture in the region who share East Asian feautures and physical attributes. I am sure that with subsequent research, their ancestors linked to genghis will be uncovered.

[@GreaterAfghanistanMovement]

@@mubarizchangezi3297 Most of you guys don't. Hazaras in Afghanistan always pretend to be Turks instead of being proud to be Mongolian.

[@miguelzavaleta1911]

I appreciate videos that debunk narratives (such as this, or the Spartan one) -- people will believe the most unbelievable things as long as the narrative has an interesting hook to it. People will happily suspend disbelief for the sake of a narrative.

[@jimmyandersson9938]

Never destroy a good story with facts

[@claudiu-mihaipuiu1221]

Which spartan narrative, if I may ask? If it's the one I think you're mentioning, then I strongly disagree.

[@selicam6216]

What was the sparta one?

[@Jixxor]

I too am curious about the video title for the one about Sparta you mentioned as I liked this video on Daddy Khan

[@miguelzavaleta1911]

I don't know if KZbin is filtering my comment, but i already posted the video mentioned for anyone interested. It's by channel Invicta called "misunderstood moments in history - the Spartan myth."

[@Top.Ramin.Noodles]

I'm Hazara, I did a DNA test to find out if we're really Mongolian. I got 43% Mongolia, 23% Afghan, 18% Iran, 7% North China, 5% North India, and 4% Korea.

[@tasbykekerey1203]

Hazar khanate established before Mongol khanate, you are Turk!

[@Top.Ramin.Noodles]

@@tasbykekerey1203 Nah, Mongol.

[@satanshameer690]

@@tasbykekerey1203 lol. You Turks came from further east. From Manchuria

[@tim.2543]

@@tasbykekerey1203 most Turks don’t have central Asian dna .Turks closely greek.

[@bitoudaisaku8303]

You’re a hizada not a hazara

[@morganlefay195]

12:02 Poor Jochi. All the suffering he endured being called bastard and now science proves him a true Chinggisid.

[@dannybrown4635]

Mongolians always knew he was son of Gengkhis, because in Mongolian Secret History it is written that Gengkhis asked support to get his Wife and CHILD back. This CHILD word is taken away from the translations of the other languages.

[@stefanomagaddino6868]

And what if Borte was already pregnant when kidnapped by the Merkid ? Wouldn't that be something ? I mean, it's possible, isn't it ?

[@stefanomagaddino6868]

@@dannybrown4635 never knew this. Thanks.

[@stefanomagaddino6868]

@@chohani47 But have have never heard anyone even posing the possibility.

[@tasbykekerey1203]

Merkits are Turkic people

[@pompacitokmakci]

Hello there. I would like to express my opinion as someone who has done research on this subject before. If anyone has more information, please reply to me. From what I researched, a genetic test on a member of the Yuan dynasty revealed haplogroup C2. Also, as stated in the video, descent from Genghis Khan was often not ethnic but political. In other words, those who ruled Central Asia after the Chagatai Khanate did not come from Genghis Khan genetically, but they claimed this politically. Also, according to Familytree DNA, the Timurid haplogroup was J2. So as a result, in my general memory, the borjigin was not racial, ethnic, but political. I hope more research will be done in the future and we will know the facts for sure without any doubt.

[@bugzyhardrada3168]

Did the muslims not describe him as a pale skinned man with blue or green eyes and red or blonde hair? If that indeed were to be the case then the physical appearance of his descendants should be somewhat more...uhh....diverse, perhaps....?!?

[@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory]

@@bugzyhardrada3168 they did not. This comes from a mistranslated statement by Rashid al-Din (d.1318), the Ilkhanid vizier, who wrote that Chinggis commented that Khubilai did not have a ruddy (reddish) complexion like himself. This was misunderstood by some people as Chinggis referring to red hair, but it actually refers to having red facial features- a common occurrence for people who spend their lives in the wind exposed steppe. So quite the opposite of pale skin Regardless , Rashid was born years after Chinggis' death, and there is no detailed description of him from his life.

[@مقاطعمترجمة-ش8ث]

Same sht happened in countries invaded by Islam, many group until today claiming they are descended from Mohammed house _(beyit)_ which is 100% false, genetic tests _(they done in mid 2000)_ exposed their lies, e.g in North Africa, they found these groups weren't even Arabs mostly Berber make these claim to not pay taxes for the Muslims rollers that era, they even go further and buy false certificates _(kinda like family tree)_

[@3rdworldbig733]

J2 is Mesopotamian/Caucasian gene right? Meaning the Timurids where not from Mongolia, but people’s of the Iranian plateau under Mongolian hegemony?

[@bugzyhardrada3168]

@@مقاطعمترجمة-ش8ث i was once shown of picture of a man called Muhammad Abul Huda al-Yaqoubi, said to be a descendant of the Prophet Muhammad. And al-Yaqoubi is the furthest from your typical Arab you can get, yet according to muslim friends of mine he looks very much similar to what the Qu'ran apparently describes him as(Incidentally al-Yaqoubi is also blood related to most of europes royal families). As i have not read the Qu'ran i cannot say, as i do not speak Arabic i cannot say yet i wonder if this is true ?!?

[@tariver1693]

I actually know a person who traces his lineage to Genghiz Khan. He is a Volga Tatar and his grandfather was a historian who in pre-Soviet times managed to find genealogical records tracing him to one of the khans of Kazan Khanate, who was a Genghizid.

[@teovu5557]

Khans of Kazan are from Jochi(Genghis Khans probable non-biological son) lol

[@xananymous431]

Most of Genghis Khan children's are born as illegitimate and only a few are born as legitimate.. Your volga friend might be the illegitimate descendents of Genghis Khan.

[@tariver1693]

@@xananymous431 I doubt that illegitimate children could become khans.

[@xananymous431]

@@tariver1693 yes of course.. The title of Khan is spreading nowadays mostly people around Central Asia and Southern Asia (ie Pakistan, Iran, India, Bangladesh) have Khan at the end of their name.. I have a friend who had a Khan in his name and he told me it symbolise that you're from a rich or powerful family.

[@tariver1693]

@@xananymous431 Kazan Khanate was in Eastern Europe and was conquered by Russians in mid 16th century, so certainly not the case here.

[@flemishnationalist-prayfor9809]

Well, this only includes male line descendants. So if one of Ghengis' descendants had a daughter, and that daughter had a child, that child is not a male line descendant of Ghengis, but still a descendant.

[@googane7755]

That's why I think in a way, everyone in asia would be related to him as tracking only paternal ancestry is just only one picture.

[@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory]

That is true; however, the 2003 study which popularized the claim (and the version that gets repeated all the time) focused on the Y haplogroups and the paternal ancestry (and hence why people often phrase it as "every 1 in 200 men in Asia today is a descendant of Chinggis Khan). The video looks specifically at the argument around y haplogroups popularized and repeated in recent media. Obviously Chinggis would have many, many descendants living today, descended from him through male and female lines. Just not the overwhelming amount of direct paternal line descendants it is often portrayed as

[@herrrobert5340]

@@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory Yeah, it does seem unlikely that he would have that many direct male descendants. Male lines are more prone to die out as men are not as likely to reproduce as women, and cuckolding is also a factor. I thought the myth was about both male and female descendants, though.

[@hex8838]

The tomb and body of Genghis Khan has not found yet nothing really evidently genetics related to him if his corpse was not discovered yet.

[@truthseeker-nv6ny]

​@herrrobert5340 but it's unlikely that chinghisid male line will die out because this lineage was always at the top of the hypergamy chain throughout centuries

[@djolds1]

A fascinating examination. Yes, it does seem that C2* is more an expression of Mongolian population movements than of Genghis himself.

[@denniscleary7580]

If he’s an ancestor of millions I would say he was a very busy man, the busiest in all of history

[@n.v.9000]

@Zeno the Filipino did you ever heard of Donald Trump...he once was asked what he and his daughter have in common and he answer-"sex probably" and she said -"their love of real estates"....not even the Khan was that scandalous

[@sanjin5387]

@@n.v.9000 Genghis Khan raped thousands and thousands of women. But Donald Trump is more evil I guess 🤦‍♂️

[@thalmoragent9344]

@@sanjin5387 It's crazy that some of the women actually did it willingly too 👀

[@actsfive30]

Yeah he's was busy killing entire populations lol...

[@n.v.9000]

@@sanjin5387 he isnt more evil....more scandalous as it is televised and Khan had his royal writer write what he told them

[@JohnnyElRed]

So, Chinggis Khan wasn't really a love machine? What a disappointment. But the idea of you making more videos about the historical study of genetics seems interesting, though. Like, there have been studies saying that people of northen Spain have more in common with north African ancestors, leftovers from the Muslim invasion, than people from southern Spain. I wonder how much truth is there on that.

[@zacharyclark5617]

The Great Khan was a war machine. Not a love machine.

[@ivannovak4711]

wtf this coment is 12 hours old but the vid is like 10 mins good shit

[@yonathanrakau7279]

@@zacharyclark5617 his generals are he is on the other hand like hitler

[@hamzaalikhan9932]

@@zacharyclark5617 i think he is a patreon supporter or channel member or something they usually get early access to videos

[@deplorableme4678]

@@ivannovak4711 the video was made for this comment apparently

[@rustoo3823]

This is such an informative video from Kings and Generals! It would be great to see more videos of historiography, especially about civilizations, scriptures, and religions. Thank you very much to the Kings and Generals for creating these :)

[@gh.husainhaidari1314]

I am a Hazara. I have never seen any Mangulian. But i wish to visit Magnolia one day. We hazaras have always been proud of being descendants Great Changis Khan. Greeting to all my brothers in Mangolia🙏❤

[@user-vs7gv4cn8o]

Ghinghez khan kaffir

[@markolukic7824]

I have recently started a masters in Genetics so this came just at the right time.

[@iceychilli557]

Mongol Tribes that Converted to Islam And Adopted Persian Culture by 1345 One of that Tribe was ( BARLAS Tribe which Came to rule 2 empires One Timurid Empire And 2nd Mughal Empire ) Basically Mughals Were Descendants of Genghis Khan and had Mongol Origin because of their Barlas Tribe which Adopted Persian-Kurdish Culture and Converted to Islam They ruled world almost 700 years

[@alashorda2206]

What do the Persians have to do with it? They are Turkics and committed genocide against the Persians. All Central Asian Turkics consider Timur their ancestor, but the Persians hate him. The Barlas tribe still exists in Central Asia and they consider themselves Uzbeks and Kazakhs

[@elvice3262]

@@alashorda2206 He genocided a city, it is impossible to genocide the Iranian people, there are too many of us

[@awesomehpt8938]

Oh well but as Genghis Khan said that best thing in life is to crush your enemies see them driven before you and to see the lamentation of their women

[@com-ev5wq]

Noted.

[@turmunkhganbaatar2515]

I thought that was from a persian scolar who disliked writting generations after he had passed.

[@ElBandito]

Origin in doubt.

[@astranix0198]

To see the ahegao of their women

[@FrEeTibEtXinJiAnGfReEpOkCoL]

@@com-ev5wq ullu 🙄😊

[@brokenbridge6316]

So basically the claim that Genghis Khan is the ancestor of millions of Asians has been called into question. Do I have that right? My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.

[@linhhoang1363]

It was a joke turning into a popular myth. One man simply can't go around all day, all week, all year round and have sex with every woman alive at that time

[@246vili]

The main point is that it hasn't been PROOVED that Genghis Khan is the ancestor of millions, because they can't identify his genes. But he still can be. And NOT by impregnating every women he sees any time he wasn't horse riding, eating or sleeping. But by his lawful and (possibly countless) bastard sons and their descendants were top candidates for marriages among the nobility of the nomad peoples even after the fall of the Mongol Empire.

[@archivesoffantasy5560]

@@linhhoang1363 well he was one of the most powerful man ever (the single most powerful being his descendant Mongke Khan)

[@linhhoang1363]

@@archivesoffantasy5560 even so, the number can't be as ridiculously high as that claim. Take this simple math and you will see how stupid that idea is: When one city was taken, let's say its typical civilian population was around 200.000. All was forced into slavery. In that number, let's say around half was female, then about half was at the age of possible reproduction. Then again, maybe only another half of that would be worth considering as gifts for the mighty Khan. Meaning they have left about 25 thousand "decent" women ripe and ready for him (let's theoretically assume he would have sex with them all eventually... yuck) Now is the interesting part: Let's again assume our mighty Khan was truly the ultimate reproduction machine, he could have sex with 10 concubines every day (yes, 10 times/day). He would still need to keep on doing so consistently in (25k/10) 2500 days. Thats almost 7 years. 7. Years. For one city. I don't need to continue to know how many more cities did he need to keep on doing so in order to reach the goal of impregnating 8% women of the whole world. Simply a joke

[@linhhoang1363]

@@246vili The thing is, to my understanding, that theory is still mean we people today have very little relation with him. According to that theory, I could say the same: every 8% of the world's population nowadays actually have some kind of relation with EVERY SINGLE MAN who has been living in Asia at the same time with The Khan. Then again, the number behind the meaning of such relation is very, tiny small.

[@EmisoraRadioPatio]

Met a Hazara the other day who said his ancestors were Mongols. I didn’t believe it at first!

[@abdulahmed5929]

Yup he was from a place called ghur not from mongolia ...

[@EmisoraRadioPatio]

@@abdulahmed5929 Yeah, he was from Ghor, exactly

[@tasbykekerey1203]

Hazar is a Turkic nation, not Mongol!

[@SomasAcademy]

I have a half-finished script about universal ancestors, and included a shout-out to Chinggis Khan not on the basis of haplotype, but just math; based on the number of generations back he lived, there's a pretty high chance that most people in central and east Asia are descended from him, though they wouldn't share his Y haplogroup because very few would be descended from him along an unbroken male line.

[@SomasAcademy]

@anothaview I didn't even mention Southeast Asians lmao, and regardless, appearance has nothing to do with this, because being descended from an individual doesn't say anything about all your other ancestors. Each generation you go back, the number of ancestors doubles, so the significance of any one ancestor goes down. Chinggis Khan lived about 24 generations back if we estimate pretty long generations, so anyone descended from him would have at least 16,777,215 other ancestors in the same generation. The average person doesn't even look like any of their individual grandparents, so why would they look like one specific great great great great great [etc] grandparent?

[@Neomalthusiano]

@@SomasAcademy Your reasoning is logical from the mathematical point of view. This not only applies to Genghis, but to everyone else. However, it varies highly according to the number of children that were able to live enough to foster offspring in the following two generations of the given person.

[@SomasAcademy]

@@Neomalthusiano Yeah, I do get into that in the script, but didn't want to address all the nuances in my comment lmao

[@upite4202]

@@SomasAcademy you need to factor in the marriages happened b/w distant relatives mostly like generations apart. Because they were highly likely even from mathematical point if we go back even a few generations back for a specific area

[@SomasAcademy]

@@upite4202 Yeah, I do get into the nuances in the script.

[@Mathmachine]

I'd like to say that he is just so that people will start calling him "Big Daddy Khan".

[@mr.neqtan]

Rakim comes out of retirement

[@Mongolnazi]

Oh, we actually do :)

[@ic.xc.]

Chungus Khan

[@saadabbas8976]

Never knew the channel also addresses matrimonial/venereal strategies and tactics.

[@marksimpson8577]

Well when you consider all is fair in love and war...

[@saadabbas8976]

@@marksimpson8577 From Scythia to Camelot Book by C. Scott Littleton Let’s test the fairness 😉

[@gm2407]

I would suspect that Temüjin may have shared a common ancestor with other tribes in his near vacinity and thus when his Mongols started conquering or travelling through areas it would be possible for this haplogroup to be widly disperssed. There would be some descended from his own near relatives but it would be unlikely to be all. With Mongol inheritance the older siblings would herd in lands away from their father and the youngest would inherit the herd and area their father held. Thus it could be common for the neighbouring groups to be related for 3-600 years worth of male ancestory to cover the core period that the study shows.

[@alexanderyaroslavich2703]

Exactly. Though at the same time, I'm pretty sure anyone from any of the Toluid and Chaghatid lines would have married into a similarly insular local ruling group, maintaining some lineage, but keeping it relatively narrow within the scope of Mongol and Turco-Mongol "royalty". As he mentions in the vid, it was more politically oriented to claim the Chinggisid "Bone."

[@gauravrao6529]

Thanks, credit for this video as it really is good to break internet myths and at the same time, learn not only history but some biological studies and terminology as well!

[@arghunpride5704]

Descendants of Genghis Khan with medieval mongols and descendants of other 92 nomad tribes lives in - Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Crimea, Hazara people in Afghanistan, Kyrgyzstan, Buryatia, Kalmyks, Manchur people, Mongolia, Bashkirs, Nogays, Altay, Tuva.

[@edenender]

@Mehmed Islamof are you a crimeean tatar?

[@edenender]

@Mehmed Islamof nasil isler Qirimda ?

[@arghunpride5704]

@Mehmed Islamof Ualeikum Assalam, Qirimli Yaliboilu qardashim!

[@arghunpride5704]

@@thekraken1173 It’s true. But most of them not crimean tatars,(they just came from Kuban and Crimea to Ottoman Empire as muhadjirs, same with Cirkassians) they are Nogais, steppe nomads.

[@box5319]

The country you listed are Atrak nations. These are the people mentioned in Islamic hadith where prophet Muhammad warned Muslim to never try fighting them for if you do,you I'll lose..are the Atrak same as Mongol?I read such information in an Islamic history book

[@looming_]

Most underrated history channel on YT. I would strongly advise cashing in on the Age of empires 4 launch and grabbing that audience. Those guys are history nerds.

[@JM-rp5lo]

Bro they have over 2 mil subscribers. They really arent underrated

[@looming_]

@@JM-rp5lo 2 mil is nothing for this quality of content. Even reaction Andys have more subs these days.

[@JM-rp5lo]

@@looming_ Reaction andy has literally nothing to do with their subscriber count when they make completely separate types of videos. Obviously a person who makes videos that appeals to a huge audience is going to have more subscribers than someone who make videos for a small community of people. 2 mil is a lot of people for historic documentary youtubers.

[@looming_]

@@JM-rp5lo what are you even arguing for? Niche channels like veritasium and 3blue 1 brown have millions of subs. Who are you to say that historic content can't have more subs? What are you the youtube police?

[@JM-rp5lo]

@@looming_ lmao look at this dude haha

[@harismerekoulias2197]

Kings and Generals: going after the memes

[@GeorgeEstregan828]

If I'm a direct descendant, I'm gonna claim the former Mongol Empire as my own. From South Korea to Hungary and everything in between.

[@mehdikhan9827]

Calm down son.

[@moogiibat5845]

You'll have a lot of competition.

[@moogiibat5845]

@@shafqatishan437 You know what, we all should start a minor army from each of our regions and fight each other. The winner will have the full rights to inherite the empire.

[@barbiquearea]

Genghis Khan was believed to of sired between 1000 to 2000 children in his lifetime. Though this number might have been exaggerated as its hard to verify. Even so it is not impossible considering how he's not the only man in history to have fathered hundreds of children. Augustus II of Poland who was a prolific womanizer is believed to of had at least 400 children, most of whom were illegitimate. Even more impressively, a 17th century Moroccan Sultan, Moulay Ismail was reported to of had approximately 1171 children in total. However modern estimates puts this number down to about 868 children (525 sons and 343 daughters) in total, all of whom he sired with his 4 wives and about 500 concubines in his harem.

[@gernemettwurst1253]

Fake

[@miroslavdestanov1364]

It is possible Chingis khan to have 16 million descendants. My great-grandfather have only 3 male descendants to his male lineage but 20 in total. So is the case with Chingis Khan.The son of his granddaughter is also his descendant.And so on.

[@derrickthewhite1]

The 16 million number isn't about descendants... its about direct male descendants. If there is a daughter anywhere in the line back to the Khan, it doesn't count.

[@fighterofthenightman1057]

Would absolutely love for you guys to take on more genetic discussions from a historical/cultural perspective - truly fascinating! Some videos on what genetics have taught us about ancient Europeans, such as the Indo Europeans from the Steppe and the relatively advanced Neolithic European cultures that predated them! So much discussion on this topic is too dry and scientific. You guys would be amazing at bringing historical genetic terms like “Early European Farmer” and “Western Steppe Herder” to life and giving these people faces and depth!

[@peymanmostafaei6963]

The Hazara people are one of the most unique, if not the most unique ethnic groups in Central Asia. While the people carry the Mongolic gene more than any other people in the Middle East, Central and South Asia, they speak a dialect of Persian closely related to Dari dialect spoken in Afghanistan. Furthermore, while almost all the neighbouring people in the regions are Sunni, the majority of Hazaras are Shia. This has made them the target of nationalistic groups in the past, especially the Pashtuns, leading to many atrocities against them in the past century. Unfortunately the situation has become much worse when Taliban took over in 1996 and now 2021. As a Kurd, I wish them nothing but peace and happiness, even though thanks to people like Ashraf Ghani, Donald Trump and Joe Biden, the future seems grim for them.

[@thomasprent2179]

@@gubruikertje constantly destablizing the region doens't help them

[@thewarlock539]

@@gubruikertje Low IQ comment. Bomb the place and the wonder why it's a crapstorm.

[@ElBandito]

This is why I want Iran to dominate the region. Iran would surely protect the Shia Hazaras.

[@yiming8697]

I like history, but I don’t like war, injury, death, separation

[@mehdisafaei887]

@@ElBandito I think there are more Hazara in Iran right now compare to Afghanistan

[@awesomehpt8938]

You can’t say Genghis Khan didn’t have lots of fun during his time lol

[@barbiquearea]

I heard he took for himself the most beautiful women after conquering every city or town as booty as was his right as warleader/khan.

[@XiangnuKhaan]

His children were the ones who did it mostly

[@n.v.9000]

@Thorn Adkins same as food poisoning, first they train them then try them....or they were virgins...but he had concubine testers and trainers in the art of that sweet sweet love making....imagine that fat bastard picking the best fruit and telling you to taste it

[@colinphang503]

@Thorn Adkins he only did it with virgins

[@مقاطعمترجمة-ش8ث]

@@colinphang503 Like Mohammed

[@dfgh-ke8ch]

in my heart I am a mongoloid, that is what I am. we are a horde, that is what we are. yes we are that, we are 100% that.

[@jikiri_8832]

Infrared Rising! 🦍☀️

[@iliqiliev]

most reasonable conclusion based on the facts mr. lizard

[@darrenbutler9819]

huh, I had when younger thought that Mongoloid was a bad word, I thought it was moron in German cause it sounded similar.

[@thehybrid4608]

Lol, I remember that video from wow_mao

[@theMOCmaster]

I like how this channel doesn't just go with the most exciting interpretation of the evidence to try to create drama and clickbait!

[@beanondaddy3397]

Great Video. I took a test with a well known genealogy company. Now I know I have Native American, Scottish, Turkish, ... ancestors from places I never knew my ancestors were in... wonderful.

[@mali15j]

Seems like I am the only person from Hazara's tribe watching your channel. Interesting take Kings and Generals. I never fathomed you would cover this topic in such detail - well done. Growing up, I learned few different theories about our origins from my elders. The most predominant theory is that we are descendants of mongol army which invaded Afghanistan during or after changiz khan. Apparently their numbers were in thousands, hence, the word 'Hazara' from the word "Hazar" which means thousand. On the contrary, there might be few people who say they are the actual descendants of changiz khan. The other hypothesis is that 'Hazara's" and "turks" had common ancestry, the Turko-Mongols, hence to this day, there are common dialects and cuisines between the two cultures. What is the actual story, probably no one would know. But Hazara's do pride themselves on their ancestry based on their folklore. Maybe this could be another project for digging common cultural lineages back in history based on current science and evidence. Interestingly enough, just recently I realised that our numerical counting dialect is the same as Kurds (based in Iran, Iraq and Syria) and Baloch (based in easter Iran and Pakisan), although all three of them ( Hazara's, Kurd's and Baloch's) live in different regions and their dialects/culture are completely different.

[@alexanderyaroslavich2703]

I always though that was more of a linguistic/culture thing, since the the Persian/Iranic languages were widespread, long before the Mongols. Then Islam came into the mix and added Arabic words as well. I'm from the US and I have obvious Northern European heritage, but don't speak Swedish or German, though my ancestors who moved here 150 years ago did. Compare that with your people, who've been in what is now central Afghanistan for much much longer. There's obviously going to be linguistic and cultural influence, but at the same time being Shia Muslims and keeping your own identity probably maintained a your genetic heritage a lot longer. A friend of mine has Irish and Polish heritage, which is likely very different in their genetic origins, but since both cultures were Catholic, it it made sense that they'd mingle.

[@suikzaxa9593]

Autosomaly/genetically most hazaras are a mixture a of tajik-like individuals and Mongols. The region "Bamyan", which is nowadays mostly populated by hazaras, was mentioned in several Bactrian documents as a important stronghold.

[@GreaterAfghanistanMovement]

@@suikzaxa9593 How do you know they got mixed with Tajiks?

[@mehmedtheconqueror7132]

where u live

[@GreaterAfghanistanMovement]

@Fawad Karim Lol no they look completely Mongoloid. A small minority look Caucasoid but that's probably due to recent mixing.

[@Lanval_de_Lai]

The genetics of the Indo-Europeans are very controversial, I see many misconceptions there, I would really love a video on that topic as great and correct as this one!

[@sectorgovernor]

It is also interesting topic how many Uralic (more exactly the original Ugric) related dna the Hungarians have, if it still exists. Because it is also disputed question if Hungarians used to shared genetic relationship with Uralic people or just it was a linguistic relationship. But a recent research has found a very small amount of Ugric related haplogroup in Hungary.

[@dragonfly1929]

All those who think they are a pure race..they are lying to themselves..Genghis Khan ..Royal marriages ,and the hundreds of years of Mongol occupation..there are much more millions ..with Mongol..DNA.

[@teovu5557]

Hungarians have less then 5% Uralic ydna. N1c is only elevated in the szekely Hungarians of Romania.

[@sectorgovernor]

@@teovu5557 yes, in general, Hungarians have little East Asian dna. That's why is hard to find the genetic prove of the Uralic origin.

[@sectorgovernor]

But in 9-10th century Hungarian tombs, the East Asian dna is much higher. Different estimates exist, but one research showed 37% (if I remember well) N1C in 9-10 century Hungarian findings

[@Aziy22]

Ghenghis Khan in the afterlife: *wondering why the heck people care*

[@Cecilia-ky3uw]

This guy was the guy who conquered more than any man in history

[@Trillioons]

@@Cecilia-ky3uw Looks like Future followed his footsteps

[@JonDoeNeace]

Some Native Siberian shamanics recognize prayers to the Khans as unto the ancestors and spirits of the honorable deceased of the region in which they live.

[@SKCCP]

Having the last name ‘Khan’ or ‘Kahn’ does not mean one’s line trace back to ‘Genghis Khan’. Also Chinese and Korean surname ‘Han’ or ‘Hahn’ are their version of Khan/Kahn. Khan’ or ‘Kahn’ simply means big. In the old days, all the Joe Blow village chiefs of Turks and Mongols were called Khan/Kahn. Adopting those words as surname was common. Also, having last name Khan likely means a Turk or a Mongol did one’s distant grandmother. There are many examples like ‘Ong’, ‘Wang’, ‘Hahn’, ‘Chi’, ‘Je’, ‘Chan Yu’, ‘Sunwoo’, ‘Qagan’, ‘Gurgan’. They all mean king or king of kings.

[@ragnaroni]

I spent three years learning semi advanced biology so it was nice to go "Oh I know this and that" at the explanations!

[@ShallExplore]

As all humans have a common ancestor. The most believed theory is that Homo-sapiens migrated from Africa to East Asia through the markings shown in the video. So basically, from East Africa to north Africa, north Africa to Middle East and to Central Asia and to the Himalayas and then up to the East Asia (all the while interbreeding with other species like Neanderthals and Denisovans). There is a hypothesis that can be a theory at the same time that Gautam Buddha and Temujin Genghis Khan shared a common lineage closer than most people would think. Buddha was born in a tribe called Shakya when the area was a part of Kirat Dynasty and although quite far in distance to current day Mongolia. Some of the Kirat explorers must have went up north. A few hundred years after the Buddha was born and Buddhism was established, there was a place called Sakya in current day Mongolia. Genghis Khan's father was from a Kiyad tribe, Genghis Khan's first wife's father was from Khongkirat tribe. Genghis Khan respected all religions and was mostly spiritual, his kins were all mostly Buddhists. There's more to add here but for now I shall share this amount.

[@vtessbytos4122]

Can you do a documentary on Nader Shah? One of the greatest military geniuse of his time which sadly isn't really talked about in history.

[@mothercoconuts3923]

No

[@mahdiadib9295]

@@mothercoconuts3923 thats crazy bro, but i dont see who asked you

[@freddekl1102]

i literally never heard about the guy but his battles seem really impressive and interesting, I see he was murdered at the height of his power so had he lived longer it would be kind of funny to have a Persian/Central-Asian Napoleon With Ottomans and/or Mughals weakend just at the start of full swing of European colonialism and revolutionarism, world could have been a much different place

[@worsethanjoerogan8061]

Ironically, he caused his own assassination with his paranoia in his old age. His nobles became convinced they were next

[@mothercoconuts3923]

@@mahdiadib9295 Vtess did

[@altinmares8363]

Please post more videos about -Aristotle teaching Alexander The Great -Plutarch biography of Alexander The Great -Tengrism -The golden age of Jewish culture in Spain -Ancient Greece wisdom and philosophy -Judaism origins -Ottoman Empire scholars (ulema) and astronomy

[@Quickshot0]

Very interesting to see how lines of reasoning changed based on weaknesses in various arguments, thanks for the extra details, very informative.

[@ElNegroGangsta]

I'm waiting for Golden Horde #1 on Spotify. I don't want it, I NEED it 🤩

[@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory]

Very soon! It is being written as we speak!

[@ElNegroGangsta]

@@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory love your work guys, both channels are great, keep it up 🙌🏻

[@hjaltechristiansen2008]

same brother, i can't clean my kitchen unless i hear my mongol podcast - and its now 3 weeks ago, shit got mold all over it, do i care no! just want my mongols

[@ianskinner673]

I really enjoyed this. It's one of those things that make you go hmmm. Thanks for bringing the science into it. Consider one on i think it was Ramses II of Egypt. They say he fathered alot of people in his day. Then consider how long ago that was and you might get a lot of present day Egyptians related to him. Or not..who knows.

[@imam-_-]

Woman Exists. Genghis Khan: Is for me👉😊👈?

[@newbossbro3180]

Genghis Khan: Ride Wife Life Good

[@edwardliu111]

Ironically, this is precisely what the video is attempting to debunk

[@blugaledoh2669]

@@edwardliu111 Nah Genghis had lots of concubine.

[@imam-_-]

@@edwardliu111 Ironically the comment is acting to detect those who didn’t watch the video.

[@blugaledoh2669]

@@edwardliu111 6 wives and 500 concubines.

[@akernis3193]

That was a really informative video. Nice work ^^

[@User-xw5mk]

As a Hazara, watching this video felt like being told "You're adopted" xD Jokes aside, I've somehow always known that we're not related to Chingis Khan, although it would've been cool if we were.

[@og882001]

We Mongols consider Hazaras our blood brothers.

[@User-xw5mk]

@@og882001 We are blood brothers!

[@Khan_lucky]

But why Most Pashtun Pakistani and Indian people have Khan title in their names?? Khan is a mongolian word used for mongols kings.

[@nonye0]

"The greatest happiness is to vanquish your enemies, to chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth, to see those dear to them bathed in tears, to clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters."

[@ericlipetzky4221]

"What is best in life ?"

[@alexanderyaroslavich2703]

I still prefer fleet horse, the open steppe, falcon at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.

[@theawesomeman9821]

Genghis Khan: "I will be the forefather of millions!" Abraham: "Hold my beer..."

[@box5319]

Abraham progeny bloated their number, especially after the emergence of Muhammad.80% of modern "Arab" were in fact arabised

[@Mr_M_History]

So how did I learn about military history before Kings and Generals again?

[@abcdef27669]

Wow, genetics on K&G! I'm sincerely impressed!

[@Thelastkeyboardwarrior]

One of my favourite videos from your channel

[@drugdealer49]

I’m no expert in genetics at all, but I remember an article I read by Adam Rutherford, and he claimed that the last common ancestor for all Europeans lived only 600 years ago. Now Genghis Khan lived about 800 years ago, so I would guess that if the situation is similar in Asia, he should be an ancestor to a huge part of the billions living in Asia, way above the estimated 16 million. I have no way to prove that this is true, I just thought it was an interesting thought and worth a mention.

[@GreaterAfghanistanMovement]

Europeans are not on group of people!

[@anitapollard1627]

Wow! Thank you for taking the time & effort to clear that up and explain it concisely for me 🤗❤

[@ayanbeig4969]

Technically I am related to Ghenkis Khan through Tamerlane of Timurids and Babur of Mughals, just when the British invaded India in the 1840s, what was left of Royal Family went into hiding from South into to Hindu Kush.

[@yiming8697]

The war is cruel, helpless, sad

[@ayanbeig4969]

@@MuddieRain Because its been already stated if you research it, which I have done myself

[@ayanbeig4969]

@@MuddieRain Qaracher married One of Chagatai Daughter as way to keep the Lineage Royal and Power in the family, so it could continue

[@ayanbeig4969]

@@MuddieRain Barlas and Borgijin clan were, closely related the Ancestor of Tamerlane and Temujin (Ghenkis) were Twin Brothers from Taumanay khan

[@ayanbeig4969]

@@MuddieRain Kublai khan stated this in Secret Mongol Scrolls

[@mahuyakhastagir3091]

Thank you for making such great videos K&G.

[@historydawn9982]

Wow I like your content. Editing and narrating make your channel my favorite. Your work should be admired . You are deserve more subscriber I hope you must gain 2 Million subscriber by the end of this year. Please keep continue this type of amazing work. Your admirable hard work and deep research make you the best channel on KZbin.

[@thefeudallord3149]

.... Kings and Generals has 2.23 million subcribers.

[@umjackd]

I love this scientific take on historiography. Thank you for making it and giving us all a video we can link to people who won't watch it. But we can try!

[@georgeaird4637]

Even without going into genealogical data the maths behind the claim would be hard to believe. Unless Genghis had super-human sperm and was able to impregnate a different women every day for 30yrs the likelihood that he'd have so many direct descendants now is very low.

[@johnspizziri1919]

Wow. This was fantastic. Thank you very much!!

[@88kjk75]

You gotta hand it to Temujin, he was the original sigma male: 1. Commits the largest genocide in history. 2. Creampies millions of women. 3. Refuses to elaborate. 4. Leaves.

[@deplorableme4678]

Lmaoo

[@barbiquearea]

What is best in life? Temujin Khan: "To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."

[@ElBandito]

Chingis was not a sigma male. He partied hard whenever he wanted to and was friends with many.

[@bulganavarzed7031]

That was way of living for mankind in early centuries. So he followed on that path and succeeded!

[@specialnewb9821]

Great men of the past are both more likely to have lots of kids and have those live. He probably does have a number of descendants but comparable to other notable rulers.

[@jamieyoung9206]

“Great men” lol okay misogynist. Those “great men” were also murderers and warmongers

[@johnhenry4844]

@@jamieyoung9206 Jesus dude read a history book or just look at the real world, that’s just humanity

[@ethans7588]

@@jamieyoung9206 The kid's table is over there ------->

[@stefthorman8548]

most of them probably went into hiding from all the purges.

[@specialnewb9821]

@@jamieyoung9206 Yes, that's part of what made them great, as in consequential to human history. That's what the term means. They were better at it than anyone else around them and that was necessary in those times.

[@jimmy12347654]

Damn if they could find his tomb one day... would be mind blowing

[@eastturkistanaustralianass4221]

Great channel, but one thing I want to clarify. Uyghur people are not Chinese people. Uyghurs are Turkic people in ethnicity, language, culture and identity. Uyghurs in China are separate from the Chinese Muslims. Uyghurs are Turkic Muslims.

[@MrGilang100]

Well, the main thing that i learn is that even thousands of years in the future, paternity test can still be taken.

[@hannibalb8276]

You are NOT the father!

[@umarmars47]

Y DNA TEST

[@ElBandito]

Chingis Khan: Winner of the hide-and-seek champion since 1227.

[@okok-pv4ik]

We want more ancestory documentries❤️

[@hridoyabdullah5133]

Love the videos of this channel the most .Keep up the good work

[@Maus_Indahaus]

I read that recently someone proved that Sitting Bull was his ancestor by comparing DNA

[@yutakago1736]

It doesn't matter what are race of the nobles. The nobles are always conscious of their blood line. This is because all these nobles have one thing in common. They claim to be "chosen one" to lead. Therefore, they are careful to choose their wives/concubines. Marriage is a form of alliances. Most of the time, they will choose from other nobles families to form alliances to consolidate their rule. Therefore, it is highly unlikely there are such a large number of Genghis Khan descendants.

[@shaolindreams]

Looking beyond.. C is a pretty interesting haplogroup in itself, very ancient and is common ancestor to all out of Africa ethnicities, as A and B are the original Africans peoples ... Next is C! Australian Aborigines also have C.

[@huseyincobanoglu531]

Thank you Kings and Generals Team!

[@kylefisher1458]

Its now the Kings and Generals ... and Geneticists Channel =)

[@johannasalem1241]

mind=blown, thanks for this effort !!!

[@nortonwedge]

I love that the opening ad is "Find Asian women online". Such a great spot. Lol

[@alexpieters2345]

Big fan of your channel from the Netherlands :) Do you have any plans highlighting some of the battles from the 80 years war.? Battle of Nieuwpoort which happened in 1600 for example. I hope you will keep this in mind :) Much love and happiness.

[@loganbagley7822]

Excellent video. This is something that I have wondered about a lot. The one suggestion that I would make is to distinguish between "descendants" and "direct male descendants," as the term "descendants" is very broad and could refer to anyone who had Genghis Khan as an ancestor on either their mother or father's side. Y chromosomes are usually used in determining direct patrilineal heritage. Awesome video!

[@danishh3819]

I'm Hazara from Pakistan. Thank you for video.

[@jasonbored8319]

No wonder Afghanistan is a nation of warriors. Makes sense now

[@ExploreLearnEnglishWithGeorge]

I was literaly talking about this to my gf and googled the figures as this video came out...dang! trippy!

[@henrimourant9855]

Excellent video.

[@AngelGonzalez-yb6gu]

I just checked about the Hazara people in Afghanistan, they don't really look East Asian but rather Eurasian, like they have Asian eyes but also fair skin and some of them apparently have light eyes. From the phenotype look, the Hazaras don't seem to be very "Mongolian looking" so to say...

[@Potatoman1578]

Well that's obvious, since we Hazaras are descendants of both Turco-Mongols AND East Iranic people. We don't look like carbon copies of Mongols of course, because we are mixed. It's kinda similiar to how Mestizos were born in South America.

[@markw999]

Isn't William the Conqueror the common ancestor of 1/6 of England? Something like that. Going from memory. So would these numbers really be that crazy?

[@muhammadfasihkhan8508]

I'm a Pakistani and I always assumed Hazaras were Mongoloid since I was just a teenager. They always appeared foreign in a crowd, exhibiting distinctly Mongolian features.

[@LeeTheKnight]

A video like this about the "English" royal family would be cool.

[@yiming8697]

The war is cruel, helpless, sad

[@alexanderyaroslavich2703]

It's pretty undisputed that there is a direct line from QE2 all the way back to William of Normandy.

[@teovu5557]

@Heberth R. English cones from the west Germanic Anglis tribe of Anglo Saxons. Real Brits are the Celtics people of the island.

[@yiming8697]

@@alexanderyaroslavich2703 Thank you for your patience, can you add WhatsApp?

[@pabloxalejandro1124]

I'm in love with this channel

[@LionKing-ew9rm]

Wow, historical genetics is cool!

[@ashikurrahman2960]

Wow! Great work K&G. You can make a video on Indian genealogy like the origins of the Indo-aryans.

[@Eldred15]

Chad random mongol warriors with the c2 star cluster vs the virgin Genghis

[@ntwrkntwrk8319]

Is Genghis Khan Chinese? "We define him as a great man of the Chinese people, a hero of the Mongolian nationality, and a giant in world history," said Guo Wurong, the manager of the new Genghis Khan "mausoleum" in China's Inner Mongolia province. "Genghis Khan was certainly Chinese," he added.Dec 30, 2006

[@venomlink2033]

Only thing my Dad’s side of the family knew about their heritage was that my grandfather is 100% German, and his family tree since circa 1600. My dad’s mom claims she’s French and Dutch for sure, but doesn’t know her dad. Took a DNA test because I was curious. 5% Swedish. 20% Latvian/Baltic. 8% English/NW European (might include Dutch). Neither of which exist in either other part of my family. Whatever you think your heritage is, you’re probably at least half wrong.

[@antonxuiz]

Fascinating video about the mongols! So anyway guys did you know 16 million people share Genghis Khan as a common ancestor? Crazy uh

[@slym741]

Can you do an episode on the descendants of the Arab Quraysh tribe and descendants of the Prophet Muhammad and talk about genealogy?

[@kartikshiroya2270]

Dogs are his descendants 😁

[@slym741]

@@netrunningnow True but apparently you can see whether someone descends from the Arab tribes of early Islam by looking at Y Haplogroups

[@kennymitchell3020]

Great video anymore info available would be greatly appreciated