Is Geno Smith the Reason the

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@Praying_Mantis3
@Praying_Mantis3 4 күн бұрын
Crazy how all of the blame is on geno or the offensive coordinator. None of the blame is on the 30th rank O-line. For a position group that is dependent on having continuity, it should be known that the seahawks had a lot of turnover in that position group. Can you name another position group that had their leader retire mid season? The seahawks also had one of the least efficient run games in the NFL. But sure chalk it all up to Geno's picks as the main reason, don't mention that he has the o-line that gives up the second most pressures.
@tjdeuceosix
@tjdeuceosix 4 күн бұрын
@@Praying_Mantis3 basically the same o line produced a top 3rd of the league Offense the prior 2 seasons. Laumea was probably even an upgrade from Bradford. Grubb did not call a good enough offense to hide o line deficiencies. Shane Waldron was a better OC than he was. That's not even opinion, it's just fact.
@Praying_Mantis3
@Praying_Mantis3 4 күн бұрын
@ I’m not saying that he doesn’t deserve some of the blame pie but we knew going into this that Grubb didn’t have much play calling experience let alone NFL play calling experience. Also George Fant, Michael Jerell, Christian Haynes, Laken Tomlinson, and Connor Williams weren’t on the team last year. The only starters who were on the team last year are Abe Lucas, Anthony Bradford, Olu Oluwatimi and Charles Cross of which only Cross played the whole year. Abe being injured most of the year, Bradford being in rotation most of the year and then getting benched for lamea and Olu being on the bench until Connor Williams retired. I would not call that continuity.
@tjdeuceosix
@tjdeuceosix 4 күн бұрын
@Praying_Mantis3 the quality of play of the line was the same. In fact, Lucas's return and Laumea's ascension to starter probably had them as a better quality of o line. Tomlinson and Lewis are a wash and Brown and Williams/Olu Olu are also a wash.
@Praying_Mantis3
@Praying_Mantis3 3 күн бұрын
​@@tjdeuceosix quality of play being the same is a different argument than the players being the same. Ranking-wise they were about the same. Again not saying Grubb doesn't deserve blame, but if we're talking quality/talent this O-line was ranked only above the Patriots. Being slightly better than an O-line that people were afraid to start a rookie behind does not give me much confidence. That being said i would be okay with getting a new OC as long as we're not ignoring the O-line and thinking the new OC is going to fix all of the issues without investing anything into it.
@tjdeuceosix
@tjdeuceosix 3 күн бұрын
@Praying_Mantis3 you got me on semantics. My fault for not saying "quality of o line" in my original reply. Bottom line is, there are ways for an OC to help his o line. Even Shane Waldron, who JSN couldn't find one good thing to say about him when asked by multiple Bears podcasts/media outlets, and then got fired mid season, was able to hide some of these o line problems to the tune of a top 3rd of the league Offense.
@shawnhenderson2091
@shawnhenderson2091 3 күн бұрын
Its undeniable Geno's pick six vs the Rams cost us that game and in the end, tallying up the wins and losses all season, it adds up and without that pick six, we'd be playing for the playoff spot this week.
@badass1g
@badass1g Күн бұрын
Something else from that game really sticks out to me, I remember when stafford ran on a 3rd down and he took a HARD tackle but he got the first down, he wanted it more. Geno would never do that!
@shawnhenderson2091
@shawnhenderson2091 Күн бұрын
@@badass1g Well to be fair, Geno did in fact rush 2 times for 30ish yards against SF to get the winning TD the next game we played. SF defense is no joke either, they hit hard.
@WillieS-w8d
@WillieS-w8d 5 сағат бұрын
Ok but any other qb behind this o line and u see how good geno really is
@ExaltedSeahawksFan
@ExaltedSeahawksFan 4 күн бұрын
Salk is deliberately ignorant if he believes Grubb is not a glaring problem.
@MK3JettaDude
@MK3JettaDude 3 күн бұрын
Tell me you only watch the TV copy without telling me you watch the TV copy. This teams o-line is dreadful. Geno has decision making issues and is to loose with the ball. Thank god this is Geno’s last year. You will see with an improved o-line he will still throw picks in the red zone and leave points on the field like he has over and over again since being the starter.
@3Gunzdeep
@3Gunzdeep 3 күн бұрын
@@MK3JettaDude I believe you are correct about Gino but if he gets to a team like the Raiders, who play indoor, he might have a pretty good season. He is definitely a Fairweather and indoor quarterback.
@loganwarrick3354
@loganwarrick3354 2 күн бұрын
@@MK3JettaDude seahawks gonna extend him for at least another year
@CharlieTWilbury
@CharlieTWilbury Күн бұрын
@@loganwarrick3354Makes sense, he’s a cheap bridge.
@sufyankhalid1737
@sufyankhalid1737 3 күн бұрын
Didn’t Daniel Jeremiah come on this very show and break down Geno’s interceptions? 8 of the 15 were on Geno alone, 4 tipped or dropped, and 2 on DK not finishing his route
@hawkszonerundown
@hawkszonerundown 3 күн бұрын
Only issue with this is what about the picks teams have dropped. It evens out. Way too many picks no matter how it's sliced up
@DatAlaskan
@DatAlaskan 3 күн бұрын
@@hawkszonerundownGeno threw 4 picks that should’ve been INTs that were dropped. His pass catchers dropped/tipped 4 actual picks. So what are we doing here? Are we going to play this game with every QB because Stafford threw 4 should be picks against Arizona last week This year Geno’s INT% is 2.7, that is 14th out of 46 among QB with 100+ attempts. For TWP%, Geno sits at 2.7%. That is 28th out 46 QBs. So he’s not consistently placing the ball in harms way in the aggregate given the volume he’s passing for. And even going back through his INTs and dropped INTs, you walk away with maybe 11 truly on Geno out of the 25 and that’s being liberal with the blame pie. Not to mention he’s also 4th in pressure rate and 3rd in quick pressures. So the only conclusion you can actually come to is that he’s been absurdly unlucky in an offense that is solely driven by him as he’s assailed behind a porous IOL and at one point the worst RT situation in the league.
@CharlieTWilbury
@CharlieTWilbury Күн бұрын
@@DatAlaskanThat’s a lot of explaining to say a mediocre QB is mediocre.
@mikeb1596
@mikeb1596 3 күн бұрын
Cant hold 15 picks over Genos head when several of them were DK running a bad/wrong route or the ball bouncing off a wr
@jo-nathan.thomas
@jo-nathan.thomas 3 күн бұрын
Half of those picks were not on Geno 👍🏽
@divorcing_dads
@divorcing_dads Күн бұрын
You can when they ball shoukdve never went to DK...
@lukeschilperoort9934
@lukeschilperoort9934 Күн бұрын
If Dk (or any other receiver) are running the wrong routes Geno still shares blame for not being on the same page with his receivers. Thats a communication and leadership problem on his part.
@krockyog7165
@krockyog7165 3 күн бұрын
baker has 40 td passes
@ryanball2754
@ryanball2754 3 күн бұрын
And the 4th ranked o-line compared to Geno's 30th and the leagues worst 40% pressure rate.
@krockyog7165
@krockyog7165 3 күн бұрын
@ it’s not a good comp at all, situations are very different, how ever let’s not sit here and act like geno is a top 10 qb, he’s in the 15-20 range and guys like that don’t win super bowls that’s just the truth, ask san fran, ask dallas,
@CharlieTWilbury
@CharlieTWilbury Күн бұрын
When Mayfield wins meaningful playoff games, the view of him may change. Right now he’s a journeyman having a very good season. Just like Smith has done.
@CharlieTWilbury
@CharlieTWilbury Күн бұрын
@@krockyog7165ask Tampa this year, lol
@chrissnape9537
@chrissnape9537 3 күн бұрын
Your out of your mind if you don't think our guards and Conner Williams were the problem. Olu has been pretty good. It seems like 85% of the time K9 got the ball, there was a defensive lineman 3 yards into the backfield. Did you not see the million times Geno had pressure in his face and had nowhere to scramble. K9 and Geno were killed by the swinging gates we have at guard. Laumea seems OK. Why havent they been able to coach up Christian Haynes. I just read his draft profile. He had an over all grade of 86. Bradford is consistent at 3 things. Going offside, holding and missed blocks. Salk i understand its your job to get people riled up. Blamming Geno is beneath you. Did he make mistakes yes. Do you think Sam Darnold or Baker Myfield would have done better. What about the other three QBs in our division. I dont think any of them would have done better than Geno. Maybe Purdy because he does move well. Even then thats playing behind a far better line. Laken Thomlasin will not play in the NFL again, or let's say start. Someone may sign him at the NFL minimum to back up. Also, it's obvious you have never played a high level sport on a bad team. During the course of the year, you can get sped up because you have been hit so often. Your NFL host and Chargers color guy Daniel something says at least 7 of Geno's picks were not his fault. He did have 3 head scratching endzone picks. He is much better than you think.
@GeorgeConner69420
@GeorgeConner69420 3 күн бұрын
Okay, Geno still sucks
@deathstar5138
@deathstar5138 3 күн бұрын
Good to see a fan with common sense..to many casual Madden players saying geno sucks..
@aidankeller1717
@aidankeller1717 3 күн бұрын
This year, Bradford actually went on a pretty good streak, where he had no penalties on him. Everything else I agree with.
@nate1990-g5n
@nate1990-g5n 4 күн бұрын
All these Geno Defenders are Hilarious…. He did blow this season and his decisions don’t MAKE ANY SENSE
@DanlowMusic
@DanlowMusic 4 күн бұрын
I don't think he deserves all of it but definitely deserves some of it. All the forced it's, the only throwing to DK and JSN and ignoring all the other weapons on the team. Yes the line deserves some blame but not as much as most want to point at. The play calling, while like the pass plays, the routes, the last of play action and the lack of runs, kills our offense.
@deathstar5138
@deathstar5138 3 күн бұрын
Casual
@submerged8163
@submerged8163 3 күн бұрын
@@deathstar5138yes you are
@GeorgeConner69420
@GeorgeConner69420 3 күн бұрын
Geno fanboys are so dumb. I can’t take them serious. GENO SUCKS. There is a reason he was a back up for YEARS. He ain’t good!
@deathstar5138
@deathstar5138 3 күн бұрын
​@submerged8163 snappy comeback..stick to madden
@Desert_Seal
@Desert_Seal 3 күн бұрын
Last time I checked football was a team sport 💀
@Mentaltoughness23
@Mentaltoughness23 Күн бұрын
Its a qb centered game. Look at vikings if darnold is not playing like out of his mind u think theyre not playing for the number 1 seed now?
@keeganmclain8804
@keeganmclain8804 3 күн бұрын
Love how chill Brock is 😂
@2TrackMind-c6i
@2TrackMind-c6i 3 күн бұрын
Does anyone compare the pic stats of other QB's as a percentage of total pass attempts? I think Geno throws more than most other QB's, which might seem to produce more pics. Right? Am I right? If that is the case, then all the Geno Haters need to STHU. Clearly, the O-line needs improvement. If they played just 20% better on just 20% more plays, we would be contenders all day long. There would be fewer pics, more running success, and certainly more passing success. This is a situation in most teams: Salaries go to star players so the seats will be full and they can sell more $100,000 pickup trucks. O-lines are neglected in high school and college, and then are expected to be The Great Wall in the pros. Ain't gonna happen unless coaching the boring part starts getting attention. This deficit started happening 20 years ago, and now there's no decent line coaches around. Oh, but we LOVE those Star D guys, tho.
3 күн бұрын
Where is Tom Cable? Seattle needs to find him and hire him to coach the O-Line. Cable can't do worse than what Seattle has right now.
@CharlieTWilbury
@CharlieTWilbury Күн бұрын
Bridge QBs don’t carry their teams, it’s the other way around. Smith is getting paid commensurate with his play. If the team were good enough to make the playoffs they would and then they’d get eliminated early because they don’t have a franchise QB.
@ExaltedSeahawksFan
@ExaltedSeahawksFan 4 күн бұрын
Not only does Geno have horrible INT stats, but he also holds onto the ball way too long, and has bad pocket presence not due to their offensive line. Geno is not a leader, or dependable, he has always been a backup bridge QB.
@dontsupportrats4089
@dontsupportrats4089 4 күн бұрын
Stats say Geno doesn't hold the ball to long. In fact stats say Geno is 31st in time before first contact with an average of 1.5 seconds. (last year he averaged 1.3 seconds 31st in the league with only Sam Howell having 1.2 seconds) That is a DIRECT offensive line production stat. For comparison, Mahomes has an average of 2.8 seconds. League average is 2.6 seconds. Our O line is really really really bad, 30th or 31st in the league depending on the stat block used. When you don't understand what you are watching, you blame the wrong people. Just like people were saying our D line was bad against the run, but in reality it was the linebackers not filling gaps like they should. Changed them out and our D looked totally different. Blame the right people with their actual mistakes.
@ExaltedSeahawksFan
@ExaltedSeahawksFan 4 күн бұрын
⁠@@dontsupportrats4089 Lmao! You’ve provided a completely meaningless argument. It’s not the offensive line, or him being pressured at all is why the way he is. Geno has had the EXACT same problems throughout his entire career with other teams he has been on, that’s just the proven facts. Holding onto the ball instead of throwing it away, making horrible decisions, and running out of trouble instead of taking sacks is entirely on Geno for his performance.
@dustinmcgrady2171
@dustinmcgrady2171 4 күн бұрын
Another example of idiots just making up stats, to say what they want to believe. Geno has almost the least time to throw than anyone in the league.... Either know what you are talking about, or keep your mouth shut.
@ExaltedSeahawksFan
@ExaltedSeahawksFan 4 күн бұрын
@@dustinmcgrady2171 You really got me there with that smooth brain logic!
@dontsupportrats4089
@dontsupportrats4089 3 күн бұрын
@@ExaltedSeahawksFan I provided the MOST meaningful stat to a QB's performance. Go look at this stat for every fing oline Geno has played for.. all last or near last. No QB thrives with less than 2.2 seconds to throw since the stat began being tracked. Math doesn't lie, but you do to yourself apparently.
@Michaelpedia
@Michaelpedia 3 күн бұрын
Baker Mayfield has 22 MORE TD Passes
@catbreath8361
@catbreath8361 3 күн бұрын
Baker Mayfield wanted to come to join the Seahawks, but we kept Geno "Red Zone INT" Smith. And we missed the playoffs again... Geno was a backup QB for 7 seasons for a reason.
@hawkszonerundown
@hawkszonerundown 3 күн бұрын
I was screaming to sign Baker
3 күн бұрын
Baker would have been running for his life behind Seattle's atrocious O-Line.
@UTFT777
@UTFT777 3 күн бұрын
Tampas oline isn’t much better. Plus he had Mike Evan’s miss 4 games and Godwin been out most of the season. Geno couldn’t tie bakers shoes
@aidankeller1717
@aidankeller1717 3 күн бұрын
​@@UTFT777 way better. They also have a decent run game to keep defenses honest.
@mgb4692
@mgb4692 3 күн бұрын
Not sure that last line means what you think it does when one was after IK Enemkpali, one was a torn ACL, and most of the rest were backing up Eli, Russell, and Phil Rivers (a dude would get fired putting Geno over one of them for even one game, which is exactly what happened in NY). Oh and fun fact, after the Hawks (stupidly) traded Percy to the Jets in 2014, he had two 100-yard games. The QB in one? Geno Smith
@laurietongish7941
@laurietongish7941 3 күн бұрын
Tim Stafford threw 17 picks the year the Rams won the Superbowl and he had a good o-line. Geno is still a top ten quarterback in a league that doesn't have a lot of great quarterbacks. As far as I could tell only Chicago had a worse o-line.
@CharlieTWilbury
@CharlieTWilbury Күн бұрын
He’s not a top QB. Both Stafford and Goff are far better. He’s a mid QB. He’ll take the team as far as the teams talent can go, no further.
@laurietongish7941
@laurietongish7941 Күн бұрын
@CharlieTWilbury Stafford and Goff are better than Geno but not far better. Their o-lines are far better their run games are far better and their coaches are better too, which makes the game much easier for them. If we swapped Stafford for Geno the only difference is tomorrow's game would probably matter.
@CharlieTWilbury
@CharlieTWilbury Күн бұрын
@ Hmmm, I don’t agree with that but I wouldn’t argue with you about it. IMO Smith is not nearly as good as either of them. He’s OK, he’s just not a QB that adds wins to a team. IMO the tops QBs are worth a game or two themselves a year, Smith isn’t one of those.
@laurietongish7941
@laurietongish7941 Күн бұрын
@CharlieTWilbury Goff had a 5 interception game against the Texans and they won the game anyway. Good teams lift up their quarterbacks. Kind of like Russell Wilson throwing 4 picks in the NFC Championship game vs Green Bay and the Seahawks advancing to the Superbowl anyway. John Elway is probably one of the 5 best quarterbacks all time but would have never won a Superbowl without that run game and a good defense. Josh Allen maybe could've added 2 wins to our team with that horrible o-line. Even with Josh Allen this team isn't sniffing the Superbowl.
@CharlieTWilbury
@CharlieTWilbury Күн бұрын
@@laurietongish7941 No argument from over whether football is a team sport; I agree.
@matthewjohnson1098
@matthewjohnson1098 4 күн бұрын
Brock is a terrible shill now. “Geno doesn’t have support.” “Drake Maye is really bad…oh blame is team?”
@BigNutsBaby
@BigNutsBaby 3 күн бұрын
Maye has 14/10 and hasn’t started as many games as Geno. He’s a pick machine. He’d throw tons of picks here too.
@deathstar5138
@deathstar5138 3 күн бұрын
The BEST PART..is all the casual cluless madden GMs who want Geno gone are all gonna be so sad when he is still here next season..😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@dominic6991
@dominic6991 3 күн бұрын
Geno won’t be here, promise you that. Your football IQ is worse than my wife’s.
@Magoo277
@Magoo277 3 күн бұрын
I've said it once, and I'll say it again. Any good qb will go to the Super Bowl with an amazing defense and a good oline. Gebo is good. Our defense is great, and our oline is bad. We can't pay geno what we are with our current salary cap if we want a good oline around him and to keep our great defence. Either he takes a salary cut and we invest the difference in an oline and keep some of our defensive players, or we go 9-8 again next year.
@ryanrichardson9915
@ryanrichardson9915 3 күн бұрын
Baker is twice the QB Geno is.
@Mehmet_305
@Mehmet_305 3 күн бұрын
Brock is such a pathetic homer, it's getting disgusting at this point.
@squidtower
@squidtower 3 күн бұрын
Darrell Bevil also called the worst play in S.B History
@user-q3cIy1mkx9
@user-q3cIy1mkx9 3 күн бұрын
The football was almost unwatchable until the UW vs Louiville in Sun bowl game that I watched the other day. It was actually very entertaining. I was going to fold the NFL and the college football all together and get a new hobby especially after that fiasco against the Packers and the Vikings. But that is why you can't say there is no supply chain. Well, the players are not as physical as they used to be but If you buy into the new game, I'll be in. So Brock is wrong here. Offer Geno Smith about the same or the below money from the previous contract. If he accepts it, Geno will still be on the roster. Start Sam Howell vs. the Rams. Let's see if he bounces back. Let's give him a 2nd chance. Why not? The bottom line is this. Draft the QB no matter what. Draft the QB no matter what. Draft the QB no matter what. Draft the QB no matter what. Draft the QB no matter what. I don't care who is on the roster. Draft the QB no matter what. It will open up the chances for this miserable football franchise. That's the bottom line.
@aidankeller1717
@aidankeller1717 3 күн бұрын
Did he really say "top tier guy" and "Dan Orlovsky" in the same sentence? Most people do not think that guy is a reliable source when it comes to evaluating QBs. TheQBschool and DJ are much better resources.
@vanchelp
@vanchelp 3 күн бұрын
Finally, Mike Salk is back! Yes, yes, yes, to everything. Geno is not good enough to get this team to contending in the playoffs unless somehow the defense becomes world class. Even then he will limit the team. To get out of the 8/9 win purgatory the Seahawks need to find the future at QB. The problem is that its already too late. They needed to find the answer in the last two draft classes. The failure here is with the GM. Schneider has wasted away the opportunity and as a result the team is unlikely to seriously compete until 2027 at the earliest.
@deathstar5138
@deathstar5138 3 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 casuals gonna casual
@vanchelp
@vanchelp Күн бұрын
@deathstar5138 Those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it. I'm not interested in reliving the 80s and 90s Seahawks teams, thanks! Enjoy your mediocrity.
@CharlieTWilbury
@CharlieTWilbury Күн бұрын
You can’t blame Smith for the team not making the playoffs. He’s not being paid for that, he’s being paid to be half decent while they find a real franchise QB. His contract goes through next season so just keep him and keep building out your team while you look for your next QB.
@GeorgePrice-vp6td
@GeorgePrice-vp6td 3 күн бұрын
A lot of people are angry about the LA Rams pick 6 for 103 yards indeed that was horrible but the one that pissed me off the most was during the Green Bay on the first drive the Seahawks have one receiver who really is the best for the back of the end zone in the corner pass that receiver is Metcalf. It seemed like that set the tone for the whole game and I think Ryan Grubb they should give him a chance and if he is just as bad as he still is by mid-season next year then he goes he knows I say that because he knows he has to balance out the plays on the field. Play all things cannot pass 75% of the time and then expect to make big running plays when it is so obvious they have to run you have to mix it up and you cannot give up on the run. The offensive line and the running back are the key to winning games in Seattle now has the three best running backs I think in the league well some of the best. And I think they could trade up for Walker and get some good trades for him for a tight end and a good offensive linemen. The Seahawks have got to either refine or find some kind of tight who can rank with the best of them. Problem with Geno Smith is he's not finding the open are wide open receivers. If you look at most of the plays that he's thrown interceptions are a bad ball there was always a receiver open that he did not throw to Gino does not have that quick response to find that open receiver .
@matthewjohnson1098
@matthewjohnson1098 4 күн бұрын
Baker over doubled Geno’s touchdowns! Jesus Brock…what happened to you? Just embarrassing man.
@BigNutsBaby
@BigNutsBaby 3 күн бұрын
Baker has a way better supporting cast when you count the OLine
@jamespeterson2312
@jamespeterson2312 3 күн бұрын
Yes!!!! He is holding us back
@abellopez6225
@abellopez6225 3 күн бұрын
geno played the hardest division this year and half the picks were deflected.
@UTFT777
@UTFT777 4 күн бұрын
He’s kept us in games but he’s also blown games for us (rams and Vikings). Also he’s still a pouter. No thanks, next
@ExaltedSeahawksFan
@ExaltedSeahawksFan 4 күн бұрын
Hopefully he will be gone after this season.
@Eli-Boolin
@Eli-Boolin 4 күн бұрын
@@ExaltedSeahawksFan na give it like a year or 2 jus so he can coach up our new franchise QB🤣
@UTFT777
@UTFT777 4 күн бұрын
@@Eli-Boolin tbh I wouldnt want our future qb to learn from a 35 year old crybaby
@Eli-Boolin
@Eli-Boolin 4 күн бұрын
@@UTFT777 who said he was the future…I literally said keep him a year or 2 specially a year jus to coach up our NEW FRANCHISE QB🤣 ain’t nobody think Geno the future of ANYTHING💀
@UTFT777
@UTFT777 4 күн бұрын
@@Eli-Boolin why would you want our franchise qb to learn from him? He gets pissed and starts bitching for big portions of the game
@shawnhenderson2091
@shawnhenderson2091 3 күн бұрын
Trying to pin it down to one thing is the problem, its a confluence of things, starting with that o-line, then Geno, then the OC, then the run game, and fixing one won't solve all of them, they all need to be addressed, in order, then reevaluate each one as each subsequent issue may improve with the one that came before it being addressed.
@badass1g
@badass1g Күн бұрын
2022 Geno was good. 23/24 not so much. I’m ready for someone new, someone who can and wants to RUN when the pocket collapses, cause it collapses a lot! And Geno often either takes the sack or runs backwards and then takes the sack. I wish he would just RUN forward!
3 күн бұрын
Seattle's O-Line is going to be bad, so the only option is to fire Grubb and replace him with a better OC. Heck, Chip Kelly or Eric Bienemy would have been better choices as Seattle's OC before they hired Grubb.
@dominic6991
@dominic6991 3 күн бұрын
GENO ALMOST THREW 30 picks lol
@DookiebearoOOo
@DookiebearoOOo 4 күн бұрын
Start the backups they need experience bring back lock and him compete with howell next year
@GeorgeConner69420
@GeorgeConner69420 3 күн бұрын
Geno Smith is an average QB. Why people defend a career journeyman who has rapidly declined the last 2 seasons is beyond me. Northwest people latch onto anything!!! Why would you want to win 8 or 9 games every year with Geno? I want GREATNESS. How cool would it be if Mike had a guy like Allen, Burrow, Lamar, Mahomes etc. but nah, we fans get stuck with Geno freakin Smith and missing the playoffs yet again. Stop blaming the line! Even when Geno has time, he still takes sacks and makes horrible throws! MOVE ON
@hawkszonerundown
@hawkszonerundown 3 күн бұрын
Well said! I feel the exact same way. I don't care what they do with this line or new OC, he ll keep us middling and that's the worst place you can be as a franchise. I'm done with it. John should of made qb a priority immediately after the Russ trade and hasn't
@moustafaabdelaziz945
@moustafaabdelaziz945 4 күн бұрын
Soo … Hold On .. Seattle had the chance to pick either Nix or Pinx last year and they blew it???
@Reddog71
@Reddog71 3 күн бұрын
Nope, both went before the Seahawks pick. I guess you could argue that they could have tried trading up but would have lost additional picks later on?
@alemaslade4182
@alemaslade4182 3 күн бұрын
but listen there are SO MANY factors to this question. if we had a competent rushing attack and o line play then we can start this discussion. but the conversation NEEDS to start with the rush game and o line protection.
@dominic6991
@dominic6991 3 күн бұрын
I LOVE HOW HE EXPOSES BROCK
@deathstar5138
@deathstar5138 3 күн бұрын
You mean how Brock owned him..
@tobyusthomas1731
@tobyusthomas1731 4 күн бұрын
Y’all sound so dumb blaming Geno. The Wr’s play sometimey only JSN played good all season. The o line has been bad all 3 year Geno has been there and the defense has been even worse the defense gave up so many winning plays. K9 is over hyped he’s an okay running back. And most of the “15” picks wasn’t his fault.
@spaceoutization
@spaceoutization 3 күн бұрын
You don't build around an average QB. We need to stop talking about building around Geno. Geno needs to fit in this team, if he doesn't work out, he doesn't work out. We need to start talking about building around Grubb or the next OC, like how we have built around McDonald on the defensive side this year.
@Eli-Boolin
@Eli-Boolin 4 күн бұрын
YES. But no bc people gon say it’s the OLINE….im jus waiting till we actually get an OLINE for people to see he actually is the problem especially with the redzone picks. We NEED a franchise DUAL THREAT QB hopefully we draft one in the incoming years🤷🏾‍♂️
@Xpedition_Edge
@Xpedition_Edge 4 күн бұрын
Once you have the line, you get the young QB
@Eli-Boolin
@Eli-Boolin 4 күн бұрын
@ YESSIR that’s y I said in the incoming years…. But also I wouldn’t mind us drafting Jaxon Dart this year in like the 2nd or 3rd round to get that 1year under GENO at least.
@dontsupportrats4089
@dontsupportrats4089 4 күн бұрын
we've been waiting on that O line from 2015 bro, when Schneider traded off Unger and never got a top 10 guy to replace him. It's been a decade of band-aid free agency patches. I would love to see Geno with a good O-line, we indeed would truly see if he can shine or not. As long as we are 31st in time before first contact , we know there are zero QB's that can operate under those conditions. And don't think Schneider will draft a QB, he's only drafted 2 in 14 years. And one was a late round afterthought. Most teams draft one every three years so at least they have a back up on the cheap. Schneider likes to grab up other teams releases on their remaining rookie contracts. Which means he is almost never developing a QB in our offence.
@Eli-Boolin
@Eli-Boolin 3 күн бұрын
@@dontsupportrats4089 that’s y I said later rounds bc the first 2 should B OLINE…
@deathstar5138
@deathstar5138 3 күн бұрын
😂
@jojomoss20
@jojomoss20 2 күн бұрын
Is there any chance we can have Justin Fields and Geno at the same time together next year. I think Justin Fields can be better on a more functional team and having a QB with legs could be huge, especially in the red zone. They can compete for the job until we can get the future here.
@Overland-460
@Overland-460 4 күн бұрын
Pick6 against the Rams really hurt 😢
@thatoneblackkid5297
@thatoneblackkid5297 4 күн бұрын
Yup him throwing the 3 interceptions really made us lose we lost by only 6 and then the rams acted like they were insane and geno played like trash
@Overland-460
@Overland-460 3 күн бұрын
@thatoneblackkid5297 yup, it's not gonna change the fact that our o line is bad. But Geno's decision at the red zone is clearly he's not gonna bring this team to anywhere. Last few seasons, they can blame the defense that Geno and offense were carrying this team, but this season the defense is so much improved and we still missed the playoffs
@thatoneblackkid5297
@thatoneblackkid5297 3 күн бұрын
@@Overland-460 yes genos decision making is terrible and it’s really a shame because he can play good ball he has shown it but when it’s third down you gotta throw it away or take the sack he would rather toss the ball up to anyone then take the field goal. Ridiculous. I will say not every interception is his fault but most of them are
@086Laura
@086Laura 3 күн бұрын
This whole segment is just salk making the business decision to pander to huskies fans
@user-ye7ro5sg4p
@user-ye7ro5sg4p 3 күн бұрын
Seahawks have the offense and defense but they miss the one things, that is the quarterback. It like back in the old days before Russell Wilson Similar to this team missing a quarterback to take it the next level
@koolguye7953
@koolguye7953 3 күн бұрын
If Geno throws 15 picks he better have 30 to 40 td’s
@ricardoedmondson5099
@ricardoedmondson5099 3 күн бұрын
I'd like to see another qb performing better with this OL. This OL couldn't consistently run block to help set up the pass. Who said Geno is great? Most know Geno is a bridge qb till team can aquire the qb of team's dream. The thing Salk is missing about the red zone picks is the OL has been so bad that the D knows the Hawks will be passing due to poor OL run blocking.
@HeyBro18192
@HeyBro18192 Күн бұрын
Why are yall freaking out about a team with a completely new coaching staff in every position
@dbdmack
@dbdmack 2 күн бұрын
Floyd Merriweather will read a book before Geno is able to read a defense. We've seen his ceiling and it isn't very high.
@aidankeller1717
@aidankeller1717 3 күн бұрын
Mahomes threw 11 picks... so he must be holding back the Chiefs. Seattle would be in the playoffs if even just the run defense had showed up a few weeks earlier, maybe against the Giants... and that's only one of the handful of issues that truly held back the team from reaching the playoffs.
@astronorthwet636
@astronorthwet636 3 күн бұрын
I think it’s not just Geno, but he makes his share of unforced errors. I’ve seen him force the ball when he should throw it away, most often on broken plays and scrambles. His interceptions are climbing and his TD to INT ratio is dropping. Would better blocking and a run game help? Sure, but every team but one or two have the same issues and their Qb’s don’t make as many bad throws.
@gamezonereactions8388
@gamezonereactions8388 2 күн бұрын
Geno Smith has failed to make the playoffs two years in a row with falling stats since 2022. He is past his prime and not a playoff quarterback, don't even think Super Bowl contender.
@evanvargas3170
@evanvargas3170 3 күн бұрын
Threw 15 picks but at least half of them are due to dropped passes, WRs not running the correct routes, instant pressure allowing him to get hit as he was throwing ect.
@jeffreymullican2467
@jeffreymullican2467 3 күн бұрын
How about Mark Brunell as OC? Trade Geno and Dk for Trevor Lawrence?
@factvidzent7170
@factvidzent7170 3 күн бұрын
When GENO did have time to throw half the time the receivers were getting locked down let’s be honest go back and look at this past seasons games so what’s the problem?
@seanzibonanzi64
@seanzibonanzi64 3 күн бұрын
The only thing Geno is holding back on the Seahawks currently is Sam Howell and thank God for that. Seahawks won't win a Superbowl with Geno but let's not act like his production is easily replaceable because it's not. Geno is above league average, unless there's a viable alternative in the wings, we have bigger fish to fry.
@thadlane3978
@thadlane3978 3 күн бұрын
The title alone of this title is as sad as Salk.
@MaverickJohnson007
@MaverickJohnson007 3 күн бұрын
To be fair it's Grubs first year in the NFL but it's insane to ask a QB to throw the ball 40 times a game with a bad Offensive line especially when he's been bad in the redzone all season. It's not a simple as just saying It's all Grubs fault. It's all the Oline fault. It's all Genos fault. This thing isn't going to be fixed just by changing one of these variables it needs to be changed on multiple fronts if they're going to get way better.
@EricHaughey-USMC
@EricHaughey-USMC 3 күн бұрын
Our line is hot dumpster juice , this is not complicated
@MrPowderEater
@MrPowderEater 4 күн бұрын
Gino’s vision is great with an open field when it gets tightened down in the red zone. His vision isn’t as great. Draft a guy to get behind him and learn the system.
@donttrip1818
@donttrip1818 4 күн бұрын
Mahomes threw 11 josh allen throws a lot of picks so are they not winning qbs?
@catbreath8361
@catbreath8361 3 күн бұрын
Yeah man Josh Allen threw 6 interceptions. You call that a lot? Geno has 15 and many were in the red zone.
@tnkstudio4622
@tnkstudio4622 3 күн бұрын
Josh Allen, 6INT and 28TD Also ran in TD. Mahomes, 11INT, 26TD also ran TD
@Sev7nVII
@Sev7nVII 4 күн бұрын
This content stinks
@njreal8233
@njreal8233 3 күн бұрын
You’re obviously not in Washington
@Sev7nVII
@Sev7nVII 3 күн бұрын
@njreal8233 that has nothing to do with my comment
@njreal8233
@njreal8233 3 күн бұрын
@ yes it does. Their content is superb in Seattle
@Sev7nVII
@Sev7nVII 3 күн бұрын
@njreal8233 12 since 02 and no their content is not superb. Here is why. Geno is better than most qbs. play calls are questionable this year, which doesn't help the OL. The plays take way too long to develop drop passes don't help. Conner Williams was a big fail. They should have had Olu out there from the beginning. New coaching staff across the board is not easy. We will be a better team next season. GO HAWKS!
@njreal8233
@njreal8233 3 күн бұрын
@@Sev7nVII bro, that’s your opinion on whether geno is good enough but you don’t have to call their content garbage. The statistics speak for themselves. Geno is a middle of the pack QB
@Javylrod
@Javylrod 3 күн бұрын
No, I don't believe he is holding the Seahawks back. Yes, I do believe he has a wildcard/divisional round ceiling (and that's okay).
@JoshBrandolf-mv5bw
@JoshBrandolf-mv5bw 2 күн бұрын
He just isn't that dude,you can't make the mistakes he does,can't put it all on the o-line. They have to strike gold in the draft. Good thing is there young mostly,and good young players! Go get a qb in the draft John.
@bucc_360
@bucc_360 3 күн бұрын
If Jared Goff can become great so can Geno.
@rosco4731
@rosco4731 4 күн бұрын
O-line sucks and has not been good since we traded away Max Unger.
@quezebojones9352
@quezebojones9352 3 күн бұрын
Tell us how the Seahawks get a better QB than Geno . Please reply.
@tamra9867
@tamra9867 3 күн бұрын
Geno is a great back up. He is t going to ever be better than this.
@candaceh16
@candaceh16 3 күн бұрын
Backups don't win 9-10 games.
@bigamigo4863
@bigamigo4863 3 күн бұрын
No, Geno isn't the type of player to put an entire offense on his shoulders and win. Bad OL, can't run the ball, can't pass block well and predictable play calling is a recipe for disaster. That's too much to ask of 95% of quarterbacks in the league.
@dreamwireless8513
@dreamwireless8513 2 күн бұрын
4000 yards 70 percent completion percentage while being sacked almost 50 times with 30th ranked rush attack and 2nd lowest design run calls. Low play action calls. Multiple tipped ints and dk runnin wrong route. Yeah all on geno. We are literally playin hero ball every drive which is not winning formula. Geno is solid QB but not Joe Burrow who can carry offense. We need better oline play, creative quck passin/play action game. Look ay lions and how they make it easy for Goff.
@3Gunzdeep
@3Gunzdeep 3 күн бұрын
Brock puts too much on the statistics. Statistics are just numbers how about the one statistic counts wins and losses. And Geno has a losing record since he took over at Lumen field
@kevinoconnell9056
@kevinoconnell9056 3 күн бұрын
So with all that said, whats hour solution Salk
@marcusnorman2721
@marcusnorman2721 2 күн бұрын
Salk is tripping. We can’t run the ball, thus we can’t throw it.
@KevinKirby-il1li
@KevinKirby-il1li 3 күн бұрын
I blame murohy for the facemask cause if we win that game we would probabaly be in
@rig2037
@rig2037 3 күн бұрын
No. Geno is good enough to get the job done. JOHN SCHNEIDER is holding the SEAHAWKS back every year he FAILS to draft GOOD OFFENSIVE LINEMEN. Our OLINE was a JOKE most of the season. Also RYAN SCRUBB and his braindead playcalling on offense RUINED THE SEASON.. WE COULDNT SCORE IF WE WANTED TO THIS YEAR. the Defense was GREAT ENOUGH for MOST games this year. Geno COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER, HE LOOKED BAD THIS YEAR BUT IT WASNT HIS FAULT ENTIRELY. CALL BETTER PLAYS AND PROTECT YOUR QB HOW ABOUT THAT SCHNEIDER??? GET RID OF RYAN GRUBB AND GET A REAL NFL PRO CALIBER OFFENSIVE PLAYCALLER!!! GRUBB BELONGS IN COLLEGE
@edmolash3401
@edmolash3401 4 күн бұрын
Seahawks have one 2024 pro bowl player. They are a mediocre team because they have a mediocre roster - top to bottom.
@thatoneblackkid5297
@thatoneblackkid5297 4 күн бұрын
Lol that literally means nothing. Leo Williams should’ve been a pro bowler. And they easily could’ve had 3 or 4 more on defense but only so many can make the pro bowl
@AxelMTG
@AxelMTG 4 күн бұрын
Vikings and Lions both have average quarterbacks (although I personally believe Geno is meaningfully better than Darnold and Goff) and they are fighting for first in the conference this weekend. One of them is probably going to a Superbowl this year. How good your qb is does not decide whether you go to the superbowl. Your team decides whether you go to the superbowl. I also don't think Salk is being serious. I think he is trying to engagement bait people like me and trying to give the broadcast more than one opinion on Geno.
@catbreath8361
@catbreath8361 3 күн бұрын
You can't be serious. Geno, Better than Darnold and Goff? Don't make me laugh.
@AxelMTG
@AxelMTG 3 күн бұрын
@@catbreath8361 They suck under pressure. Geno has carried the team so many times when the defense isn't performing and he is under pressure every snap. There is a reason Mike MacDonald said Geno is why they have as many wins as they do. Most film guys agree with Mike.
@deathstar5138
@deathstar5138 3 күн бұрын
​@@catbreath8361way better
@Praying_Mantis3
@Praying_Mantis3 3 күн бұрын
@@catbreath8361 all things even I’d say so. Both Goff and Darnold have top 10 O-lines with top 10 run games, possibly top 5 for both when healthy and both have great weapons. I would take both teams weapons over the Seahawks weapons. They also have amazing offensive minds drawing up plays for them.
@Construct87
@Construct87 4 күн бұрын
Grubb and Geno both do
@drpammy7847
@drpammy7847 4 күн бұрын
As per D.Jeremiah to Brock only 8 picks are on Geno & NFL's most inexperienced iOL. Mahomes iOL had 3 v experienced pro bowlers. 12s must take a lot of blame for selling Thier tickets to rival fans. Effing embarrassing man. That wud never happen in soccer. Liverpool fans wud never sell Anfield tickets to Man Utd. That's why Anfield is the best sports stadium in the world.
@kiplockhaven382
@kiplockhaven382 3 күн бұрын
Does this guy know what an offensive line does? If Wilson and Smith cannot throw from the pocket due to it being practically non existant then the problem is obvious.
@Jayo2454
@Jayo2454 4 күн бұрын
All that matters is what the coach thinks. We shall all find out soon enough. I think a lot of people are going to be mad. 😂
@divorcing_dads
@divorcing_dads Күн бұрын
Diesnt baker mayfield have 40TDS? Are you kidding 😮
@mgb4692
@mgb4692 3 күн бұрын
Why am I not surprised this is coming from the former program director of Seattle's propaganda station? Um, the guy you, though you were hardly alone, sold us on and basically force-fed us to accept went all Ryan Day last week, that's a fireable offense (much as it would have been for Day if OSU was one-and-done or possibly had they lost to Oregon again). Start at the top
@butcherknife59knife46
@butcherknife59knife46 3 күн бұрын
Yes 15 interception is way to many drives that should have won more games by at least 3 / 4 games. RED ZONE CHOKES!! If I were the coach. He would be gone like the kick returners!! At 10 ints red zone picks. Grub looked good with Petis he is a college KID!!! Geno is not smart or he does not call the play correct. He has had a problem every where!!!
@divorcing_dads
@divorcing_dads Күн бұрын
Grubb has been a player/coach for 30years... he knows football he cant throw the CORRECT pass for GENO... jus sayin 🤷
@tjdeuceosix
@tjdeuceosix 4 күн бұрын
Geno wrote the check on those picks, but Ryan Grubb printed those checks. Grubb could not scheme anyone open in the red zone. It didnt matter if the opposing defense was good or bad. Thats not on geno.
@boyab696
@boyab696 4 күн бұрын
How Grubb couldn't scheme nobody open when before dk got hurt he was at the top of the receivers list then JSN had a breakout season we finally see chabornet running wild y'all just be saying anything if u thought a first year coordinator was gone come dominate elite coaches in the NFL u just lost the man deserves another year
@tjdeuceosix
@tjdeuceosix 4 күн бұрын
@boyab696 you made me realize I forgot one part of my criticism. I meant to specify the red zone. Between the 20s, Grubb and Geno were great. Even at the top of the red zone. But once they get to around the 12 yard line, the offense was a complete mess. NY Jets game is the perfect example. Being that close to the red zone, there is no excuse for the roster we have to be as bad as it was. That's not just Geno.
@carlosoverall3947
@carlosoverall3947 3 күн бұрын
this is trash …. Mahommes threw the same amount. Geno isn’t Mahomes. Hearing words without thought is cringey….
@Sanata74Hcg
@Sanata74Hcg 3 күн бұрын
this dude needs another job
@chrisellis7548
@chrisellis7548 3 күн бұрын
OK... Geno said that Coach Grub gave him alot of leeway to read the defence and change the play. What if Geno is the one that is Opt'ing out of runs plays in order to pass? same thing with the play action... he can't read the defense as well under center. Is Geno making that choice too? Having a mobile QB like Sam Howell would get the running yards up and take make the O line numbers look better. What were we worried about with Sam? He might throw too many INTs? Hmm..
@robertbrooks9686
@robertbrooks9686 3 күн бұрын
How many games did he lose by throwing picks on the final drive? 3 to 5?
@Mtbunker
@Mtbunker 3 күн бұрын
This is stupid. He’s EASY top 10. WEAK OL = no running game and ‘rushed’ passes. Also - DK has an IQ of ~85 AND isn’t where he’s supposed to be a lot of the time.
@MK3JettaDude
@MK3JettaDude 3 күн бұрын
Not even in the Top 16 lmfao what are you talking about?
@3Gunzdeep
@3Gunzdeep 3 күн бұрын
@@Mtbunker well he’s at least top four in the NFC West. He’s probably top three in the AFC West. He definitely would be top five if there was a fifth team in the NFC North but I couldn’t put him in front of any of those quarterbacks in the AFC east. I’d put them ahead of Aaron Rodgers at this point no way he’s cracking the top two in that division. Definitely got him behind Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow in the AFC north. He probably very well in the NFC south, although I think Pennix jr will pass him up next year and Baker Mayfield is already ahead of him. So does that put them in the top 10 not by my math?
@deathstar5138
@deathstar5138 3 күн бұрын
​@@MK3JettaDude😂😂😂 i know you play madden
@randellramos4572
@randellramos4572 3 күн бұрын
Get real ! the idiot`s decided to go with a QB that spent 98% of his career as a back up, then gave him chance after chance and still nothing ? find a team that will take Geno ? good luck ! can anyone name one team that would want Geno as a starter ? Without Seattle , Geno would go back to being a backup ! FACTS "
@dominic6991
@dominic6991 3 күн бұрын
I LOVE HOW HES LIGHTING UP BROCK
@jo-nathan.thomas
@jo-nathan.thomas 3 күн бұрын
Bum take… 🫤 Baker has as many picks… Darnold and Purdy are right behind him… Cousins in ATL has the 7th best O-line and a rush rank near the top-10… All of the other QB mentioned have strong O-lines and rushing teams… SEA has the 3rd worst O-line and rush rank by comparison….💡 Again, bum take by Salk 😐
@ZachBrown-g6l
@ZachBrown-g6l 3 күн бұрын
He needs to find another team. He and DK don’t read each other well. The chemistry is not there.
@carlosoverall3947
@carlosoverall3947 3 күн бұрын
stop jocking orlofsky he was a BUM and just trying to feed his family doesn’t mean he knows shyt from shinola
@TerryP-yk6ri
@TerryP-yk6ri 3 күн бұрын
Geno is a very good qb. The Seahawks need to keep him and give him much better pass protection. He has won some games just on his determination alone.
@Xpedition_Edge
@Xpedition_Edge 4 күн бұрын
No! It's the offensive line!!
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