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@robinl2328
@robinl2328 2 күн бұрын
Give our new staff a chance 4 God sakes
@ExaltedSeahawksFan
@ExaltedSeahawksFan 2 күн бұрын
Not Grubb, and Huff. Both have to be fired.
@Richard-il6wc
@Richard-il6wc 2 күн бұрын
​@@ExaltedSeahawksFan Thank you.
@bakkenhawk
@bakkenhawk 2 күн бұрын
@@ExaltedSeahawksFan and Harbaugh gotta go too
@ExaltedSeahawksFan
@ExaltedSeahawksFan 2 күн бұрын
@@bakkenhawk Yes absolutely
@andrewcarlson2178
@andrewcarlson2178 2 күн бұрын
Cowherd couldn't be more wrong. There is no way we have a Superbowl roster with one of the worst OL's in the entire league, and the absolute worst interior OL in the league. You don't make a SB with any of your positional groups being in the bottom 5. Give Geno a league average OL and we'll be shocked at how good he is. This means league average pass protection and league average run game, with the ability to actually pick up a 3rd and 1, 3rd and 2, or 4th and 1. I've never seen an OL that is actually incapable of picking up the occasional short yardage play.
@ErikPortland
@ErikPortland 2 күн бұрын
Cowherd clearly doesn't watch many Seahawks games. He has stuck with his perspective for two years now.
@odirraG
@odirraG 2 күн бұрын
He doesn't. But any time he says anything about seahawks he states he's from the PNW and blah blah blah
@swirvinbirds1971
@swirvinbirds1971 2 күн бұрын
Cowherd just flaps his lips.
@gilbourque6580
@gilbourque6580 2 күн бұрын
Give the O line a GOOD QB and help them out
@thatoneblackkid5297
@thatoneblackkid5297 2 күн бұрын
Buddy I don’t know if people like you even watch the games 😂 the o line against the Vikings didn’t give up a sack until the fourth quarter and geno still threw the most bone headed pick I’ve ever seen he isn’t the answer he has good games but he has ten bad games so don’t matter
@gameboyn64
@gameboyn64 2 күн бұрын
I swear that every time cowherd has a seahawk take, it makes me question just how many games he has actually watched from start to finish.
@gosolobox
@gosolobox Күн бұрын
I don't want Geno going anywhere till we get someone worthy of sitting behind him for a t least a year or two. Fix the O-Line.
@earthatom7
@earthatom7 Күн бұрын
Amen 🙏
@edelder1155
@edelder1155 2 күн бұрын
No way you pay geno that much money. Any of the 3 would be better than geno.
@PETERDEE-h5e
@PETERDEE-h5e 2 күн бұрын
Giving up the farm for JJ is better? Yes...let's give up the farm for RICK MIRRER 2.0
@edelder1155
@edelder1155 2 күн бұрын
​@@PETERDEE-h5e"Mirrer" would be better than ol' 3 and out geno.
@DanlowMusic
@DanlowMusic 2 күн бұрын
@@PETERDEE-h5e Ric Mirer. Nah. He isn't that. But maybe an Alex Smith
@Iron_Hawk_12
@Iron_Hawk_12 2 күн бұрын
I'd be pissed if we threw anything above 30 million at Geno
@CharlieTWilbury
@CharlieTWilbury Күн бұрын
@@Iron_Hawk_12He’s signed through next year, you don’t need to throw anything at him.
@Copperwise
@Copperwise 2 күн бұрын
If you're going with option #2 why not pick up a young QB prospect and have Sam Howell take the reigns? He gives you exactly the same scenario as #2 does.
@drendebe10
@drendebe10 2 күн бұрын
Howell is not the answer
@Copperwise
@Copperwise 2 күн бұрын
@@drendebe10 I didn't say he was. I was just pointing out that we already have a reclamation project on the team, so no need to get another one.
@ryder.sokolski610
@ryder.sokolski610 2 күн бұрын
@@Copperwisehowell would win 0 games he’s fkn terrible if anyone in that front office wants to roll with howell even temporarily is special needs
@squidtower
@squidtower Күн бұрын
Howell is terrible
@DanOhlson
@DanOhlson 2 күн бұрын
The QB needs are secondary to the line needs. All this babble about the qb choices is fools gold compared to the absolute necessity of a line.
@GeorgeConner69420
@GeorgeConner69420 2 күн бұрын
Both need upgrades. Geno is 35 next season and his ceiling is 9 wins and average game play, regardless of the O line! Even when he has ample time, he still makes terrible choices
@gitbox
@gitbox 2 күн бұрын
Would be easier to improve the oline with 30 of that 35 mill open to use
@johnmariatucker9707
@johnmariatucker9707 2 күн бұрын
@DanOhlson Justin Fields could be on schneiders radar. Still on his rookie deal and would be motivated after getting benched for Russ. Mobile QB is another weapon.
@eliashalvorson1316
@eliashalvorson1316 2 күн бұрын
What gitbox said. If we signed Fields for 10-15M per for a couple years, we could use the 20-25M in savings on the OL.
@gringbot
@gringbot 2 күн бұрын
I don't even want to think about QBs, whether its traded or drafted, until Oline gets addressed
@Orange-sc3zs
@Orange-sc3zs Күн бұрын
if we let geno go we can work on the o-line with the extra cap space
@SpencerGraf-sj4ot
@SpencerGraf-sj4ot 2 күн бұрын
Keep Geno, improve the O-line.
@saul.elnopalenlafrente428
@saul.elnopalenlafrente428 2 күн бұрын
How? They need to pay geno more money..
@2jYeti
@2jYeti 2 күн бұрын
​@@saul.elnopalenlafrente428 he still has one more year in his contract
@ErikPortland
@ErikPortland 2 күн бұрын
@@saul.elnopalenlafrente428 There's one more year on Geno's contract. I don't think there will be much of any competition for Geno's services even then. Seahawks don't have to pay too much more.
@Perfumery_by_Sabin
@Perfumery_by_Sabin 2 күн бұрын
@@saul.elnopalenlafrente428he is still going to be a much cheaper option than most QBs
@Overland-460
@Overland-460 2 күн бұрын
Keep Geno? Screw that
@FreshlySnipes
@FreshlySnipes 2 күн бұрын
Even if we did decide to go with Option-2, the rest of our team is too good to go 4-14
@fleshhammer656
@fleshhammer656 2 күн бұрын
I also don't think this fanbase could handle that. It would be our worst season in what feels like decades.
@FreshlySnipes
@FreshlySnipes 2 күн бұрын
@@fleshhammer656 we could handle that. It might actually be good… get rid of all the bandwagon fans selling their seats to opposing teams.
@wilson502
@wilson502 Күн бұрын
​​@@fleshhammer656suffering thru mediocrity is worse than having a bad season and potentially drafting your QBoTF. See Houston Texans and Washington commanders
@fleshhammer656
@fleshhammer656 Күн бұрын
@wilson502 i understand it, and I'd put up with it. Just depends on what they get for doing it. Do they get a qb, or a top tier edge rusher, or something stupid like an lb
@chrissnape9537
@chrissnape9537 2 күн бұрын
Pay Geno $35/$40 leave yourself some outs on the new contract. Give him an O line
@kylewilson2819
@kylewilson2819 2 күн бұрын
You can’t afford an O-Line while paying Geno $35M+
@andypeiffer5
@andypeiffer5 2 күн бұрын
Keep Geno, improve offensive playcalling
@theofficailsweetmedi
@theofficailsweetmedi 2 күн бұрын
Just work on the o-line
@steverudder7018
@steverudder7018 Күн бұрын
Option 1. Focus on strengthening OL, get the run game going. Set Geno up to win. I'm not a huge Geno fan, however he has a good arm, can play well at pace, he can scramble, and speaks well in interviews (decent leader). He is a bit like bambi when he runs and he ain't taking a hit to get a first down like some QBs, my main issue is i don't think his decision making is elite (deep playoff level). Throws too many picks in situations he doesn't even need to force a play. I have been really impressed with McD, he has fixed issues with the defense as they occur and takes a no nonsense approach, if you aint performing, someone else gets a shot. A few seasons of this and the defense could be very powerful. Grubb i'm kind of meh at the moment, the OL probably gets him a free pass for now.
@stevenhearnden6103
@stevenhearnden6103 2 күн бұрын
Geno is not the problem, the o line is.
@Jason-lk9yi
@Jason-lk9yi 2 күн бұрын
Geno is definitely part of the problem.
@earthatom7
@earthatom7 Күн бұрын
​@@Jason-lk9yinah Geno is solid until we find a long term solution
@nathanstrange9044
@nathanstrange9044 2 күн бұрын
Its time to draft a freaking quarterback!! We got Russell Wilson in the 3rd.....the 49's found brock Purdy last pick of the 7th round......also, there are plenty of reclamation QB's out there......not trying to get better at qb would be criminal
@Jason-lk9yi
@Jason-lk9yi 2 күн бұрын
Yep, and Geno isn't doing much better this year than 5th round pick and current backup Sam Howell did last year for 900k.... The average combined production of all rookies with at least 12 starts from 2023-2010 is 14.6 games, 3250 yards, 17.5 TD's and 12.4 INT's. Paying Geno 40m to put up the numbers he did this year would be absolute lunacy.
@Intele18
@Intele18 2 күн бұрын
Geno's decision-making is bad since he was with the Jets. He is not a playoff qb or SB qb
@AxelMTG
@AxelMTG 2 күн бұрын
If you trade for another quarterback, there is also a very real chance that you get 8-9 wins again and you end up in the same spot. The idea that you trade for a guy and they will either be a top 5 guy or the worst in the league is crazy. Darnold walked into a perfect situation and we don't have that. Getting to 14-15 win with a reclamation project is not realistic. The decision the Vikings are going through is the same that the Seahawks are going through. They have a known in Darnold/Geno and JJ is a unknown in a good scenario he ends up being as good as the other two. At 40 million, Geno is still a bargain. We have not been able to see his ceiling yet due to the way our roster is constructed. And paying Geno doesn't mean you can't get playable offensive linemen. We aren't looking to have a top 5 offensive line (although it would be nice), we are looking to be average to slightly below average because that is significantly better than what we have gotten the past 3 years.
@outlaw6oh
@outlaw6oh 2 күн бұрын
Haven't seen his ceiling? He is 34 and played in 93 career games, his ceiling is what you've seen an average nfl quarterback ala Mike Fitzmagic. At some point the mediocre band aid has to come off and I'd rather see it sooner than later.
@AxelMTG
@AxelMTG 2 күн бұрын
@@outlaw6oh Do you think you see a quarterback's ceiling when you have a bottom three offensive line? Serious question.
@ExaltedSeahawksFan
@ExaltedSeahawksFan 2 күн бұрын
⁠​⁠@@AxelMTG Geno has been on other teams that have had better offensive lines, and he has produced results exactly like has been now with consistent inconsistency. Yes, Geno has definitely hit his ceiling. If Geno was so great, he wouldn’t be on his fourth team in his career.
@ExaltedSeahawksFan
@ExaltedSeahawksFan 2 күн бұрын
@@outlaw6oh Agreed.
@BigNutsBaby
@BigNutsBaby 2 күн бұрын
Finally a good post.
@carlreed6186
@carlreed6186 2 күн бұрын
To start with your 3 QB options are all a down grade from Geno
@saul.elnopalenlafrente428
@saul.elnopalenlafrente428 2 күн бұрын
I see no reason to bring geno back with the same problem O.line..let him go and find someone else there..
@swirvinbirds1971
@swirvinbirds1971 2 күн бұрын
Yes just pull a QB out of their butts right?
@mitch1447
@mitch1447 2 күн бұрын
Play out the contract makes the most sense
@JesserDaddy
@JesserDaddy 2 күн бұрын
Geno was good, he gave us hope for a couple years but he’s remained average. He was playing great that year for that $75mil contract. Then when he got it, slacks off, legs dont work, no pocket awareness, fear of the end maybe? I dont know but id rather have a rookie in there asap with great legs and escape ability, good awareness in the pocket at least, peripheral vision maxed out and then you dont notice how terrible that o line is so much. Then receivers dont have to do all the work of getting open in the blink of an eye. Geno has cement cleats and overpaid for his performance the last few years. Time to move on
@OGSeahawk1976
@OGSeahawk1976 2 күн бұрын
Well said
@notsteelzz3428
@notsteelzz3428 2 күн бұрын
what happened to sam howell? he has good legs, he’s a young, he’s 24 and it’s his 3rd year playing? but u saw what happened with sam howell, the o line is so bad and no qb would survive so what makes u think a ROOKIE would have success behind this o line?
@bullitt007
@bullitt007 2 күн бұрын
Agree. That's why I wish we drafted Joe Milton last summer. Needs coaching but potential. New England thought so.
@BigNutsBaby
@BigNutsBaby 2 күн бұрын
@@bullitt007lol we have the worst fan base in sports. Joe Milton? LOL
@dlee5272
@dlee5272 2 күн бұрын
Geno is QB in 2025 . But do not give any extension. He needs to play smarter and turn ball over less. Make him earn an extension. Yes he can sling the ball but he can rip your heart out with interceptions in red zone or taking a sack pushing out of FG range as well. Love Geno but performance has regressed 3 years in a row. Time to play and earn an extension.
@JeffGusman-fs6oo
@JeffGusman-fs6oo 2 күн бұрын
FORGET THE FEEL GOOD STORY ALREADY. GENO'S OLD AND IS NOT VERY GOOD. IN THE 3 YRS AS QB1, HE REALLY ONLY HAD A GOOD YR ONE TIME. THAT'S WHEN HE WON COMEBACK PLAYER
@catbreath8361
@catbreath8361 2 күн бұрын
Geno was a backup for 7 seasons for a reason. Now he wants more money? Get Geno out of here.
@FreshlySnipes
@FreshlySnipes 2 күн бұрын
We NEEDED to see Sam this weekend.
@DanlowMusic
@DanlowMusic 2 күн бұрын
But with all the escalators in Geno 's contract (upwards of $6 million) no way he lets them sit him. He would throw a fit.
@fleshhammer656
@fleshhammer656 2 күн бұрын
We've seen him, he sucks. He's a back up for a reason
@FreshlySnipes
@FreshlySnipes 2 күн бұрын
@@fleshhammer656 when? A few weeks ago when Geno randomly got injured and he got tossed into the game?? I want to see him after a full week of team-1 reps and starting.
@FreshlySnipes
@FreshlySnipes 2 күн бұрын
@@DanlowMusic I think we should just give Geno the $6m… figuring out if Sam can legit play or not is worth $6m. We got Sam because he started in Washington and was raw but talented. I want to see where that might go.
@DanlowMusic
@DanlowMusic 2 күн бұрын
@FreshlySnipes I wish it worked like that. I would like to see him a whole game and not come in trying to get a win under pressure after an injury. I wanted to see the same with Drew Lock.
@ariasdobbs5615
@ariasdobbs5615 2 күн бұрын
Is Seattle wants a chance I think we should go after Justin Fields or try to trade for a draft pick and go after Jalen Monroe or Kevin Jennings
@BigNutsBaby
@BigNutsBaby 2 күн бұрын
We have the dumbest fan base in the history of sports. Thinking any of those are better options than Geno is comical
@Jason-lk9yi
@Jason-lk9yi 2 күн бұрын
​​@@BigNutsBabyNah, dumb is paying or extending an aging regressing QB 38m a year, when you could pay a QB 1-5m a year for roughly the same production. This year Geno didn't play much better than 5th round pick and current 900k a year backup Sam Howell did last year. From 2023-2010 all rookies with at least 12 games played have a combined average of 14.6 games, 3,250 yards 17.5 TD's and 12.4 INT's. Geno hasn't put up better production this year than all of those rookies combined averages since 2010, and none of those rookies made 38m a year.
@ariasdobbs5615
@ariasdobbs5615 Күн бұрын
Through my observation of past few years a lot of these quarterbacks today have been performing it's just been the systems they are put in I was screaming for Joe Melton last year or Justin Fields this year I'm screaming that my seahawk draft Jalen Monroe or Kevin Jennings and then proceed to rebuild the offensive line with the rest of the pics but this way you keep everybody together I was there this year and chemistry can now start to evolve and with new young quarterback the ceiling is the moon
@CharlieTWilbury
@CharlieTWilbury Күн бұрын
You don’t need to resign, Smith. You’re paying Smith to be your bridge QB, keep him through the last year of his contract (next year) while figuring out who your next guy is going to be.
@deathstar5138
@deathstar5138 2 күн бұрын
Only option.. .OPTION..1
@datelineyesterday5395
@datelineyesterday5395 2 күн бұрын
Do NOT keep smith
@devilishdonut1390
@devilishdonut1390 2 күн бұрын
Who then?
@stevebailey8890
@stevebailey8890 2 күн бұрын
@@devilishdonut1390 he has no answer. He has no idea what he’s talking about when it comes to ball
@tlyon5196
@tlyon5196 2 күн бұрын
15 INT to 17 TD shouldnt be back at all, let alone for 30 million freaking dollars!!! I Pray to god Geno is nowhere near the building next year.
@jkelley8173
@jkelley8173 2 күн бұрын
Finally, preach Salk preach!!!
@SEAHAWKPAIN
@SEAHAWKPAIN 2 күн бұрын
I’ve been thinking about this JJ McCarthy option for weeks now.If it can happen I’d be all in
@JohnSmith-iq5gy
@JohnSmith-iq5gy Күн бұрын
Geno is not the major problem, the lack of play action and an OC that is trying to run a college system is the problem. We have credible/believable play-action options and never use them which will just put pressure on an even younger QB.
@NitsuJTrigger
@NitsuJTrigger 2 күн бұрын
If colin coward says its a good idea then its a terrible idea
@covenant11
@covenant11 2 күн бұрын
of the qb's listed at option 2 I say no fricking thanks to the first two...justin fields cant throw, cant read a defense.., jones on his best day wasnt really that great..mccarthy?? yea ok sure..that sounds ok to me...but it would cost em...probably way too much
@andrewcarlson2178
@andrewcarlson2178 2 күн бұрын
If they go that route, they better be really sure of the QB draft the following year because they won't win more than 6 games. I don't see Schneider giving up that much draft capital for McCarthy with all the holes we have on our team.
@covenant11
@covenant11 2 күн бұрын
@@andrewcarlson2178 I tend to agree with you
@DanlowMusic
@DanlowMusic 2 күн бұрын
Justin was actually decent in Pittsburgh this year before Russ weaseled his way into the lineup. For cheap, bring him in. Let him compete. Doubt he will win it but who knows. JJ is probably the best option out there. I can see a Will Howard from Ohio State in the middle of the draft or Kyle McCord late in the draft. Not many options out there for sure. Whether fans like it or not, it's a ride with Geno for another year I think anyway we look at it.
@covenant11
@covenant11 2 күн бұрын
@@DanlowMusic that was the best football we will ever see from JFields and it happened because of Mike Tomlin. Russ outplayed him, didn't weasel his way onto the field. The whole team responded to Russ being on the field. Tomlin deserves coty and russ might be comeback player if it werent for darnolds amazing year.
@momgoesgroceryshopping
@momgoesgroceryshopping 2 күн бұрын
If we’re gonna trade a bunch of picks I would rather do that for a more established quarterback
@LuHazed
@LuHazed 2 күн бұрын
Schefter saying coming off an ACL is "so what" dude never put a jockstarp on in his life 😂
@Telefiend
@Telefiend 2 күн бұрын
I think there's a chance the O line improves instantly with a different OC that isn't in shotgun sending everyone deep half the time. Every defensive minded analyst (former defensive players) have said Grubb's offense is predictable and relatively easy to defend. Geno was very good when he was getting rid of the ball quickly and running play action. Shotgun, holding the ball and looking to throw deep isn't his game. But what available QB is going to step in and play Grubb's offense well?
@ElijahBrotherton
@ElijahBrotherton 2 күн бұрын
Just draft Jaxson dart or Dillon Gabriel
@mikea_66
@mikea_66 2 күн бұрын
No way.
@divorcing_dads
@divorcing_dads 2 күн бұрын
Gabriel too small
@TheCoolestGamer20
@TheCoolestGamer20 Күн бұрын
Geno does not need to be extended. He needs to not play another snap for the Seahawks
@goma12x
@goma12x 2 күн бұрын
Option 2. They need an O line. Pay Fields or Jones a few million and spe d on the O line. We should mo e Lucas to guard and draft another Tackle
@linhhuynh5134
@linhhuynh5134 2 күн бұрын
Improve the O line. Play Geno or Sam. If we suck, draft a QB in 26.
@randellramos4572
@randellramos4572 2 күн бұрын
With Geno Hawks remain the same.! We need a yonger more athletic QB Geno's a backup on any other team 😅😅😅 what has he done ? Never took a team to the playoffs without help / never won a playoff game his whole career 😅😅😅
@saul.elnopalenlafrente428
@saul.elnopalenlafrente428 2 күн бұрын
Amen
@2jYeti
@2jYeti 2 күн бұрын
No QB is succeeding with that offensive line. I don't know how you daft fans can't get that through your head. A QB change will do nothing, especially when they have no connection with the WRs and be pressured consistently.
@Jason-lk9yi
@Jason-lk9yi 2 күн бұрын
​@@2jYetiIf they get rid of Geno they save 25m in cap, that 25m could be used to sign a couple decent/solid FA guards. Paying Geno even more money doesn't help that situation at all.
@3Gunzdeep
@3Gunzdeep 2 күн бұрын
I think everybody forgets that when Pete Carroll took over they were coming off of a two win season or something very similar to that under Jim Mora, and had the fourth overall pick and not sure which one of those they got Earl Thomas with in the middle of the draft, but they had to first rounders that year built up a Super Bowl champion off of that losing season
@mychal0419
@mychal0419 2 күн бұрын
Option 2 carries far too much risk imo. If the season turns south and the locker room senses a downturn, some players could walk. There’s also still a world where a Justin Fields/Daniel Jones still puts the Hawks in a 7-9 win season. Vikings won’t let JJM go unless someone grossly overpays. It’s option 1 with a massive investment in OL. Geno on a bargain still worth fighting for. First time head coach and first time NFL OC. This year was always going to be growing pains.
@TheFrothyBrew
@TheFrothyBrew 2 күн бұрын
Exactly. Guys always seem to think whoever the team eventually drafts in the top-5 is a guaranteed upgrade over a 9 or 10-win season. The hit rate of highly-drafted quarterbacks proves that a foolish assumption.
@Jason-lk9yi
@Jason-lk9yi 2 күн бұрын
​@@TheFrothyBrew Geno's production this year isn't much better than the combined average production of all rookies with at least 12 games played since 2010.....
@erik22lax
@erik22lax 2 күн бұрын
Franchise is choosing option 1 to some of our chagrins. Option 2 is what I would do b/c Geno is 35 & future potential is what exactly. Organization needs a philosophy change to draft & develop QB's when they want to not when we need to. Last years draft class of QB's was stacked & we missed out on all of them. Going after McCarthy now we will pay a kings ransom to MN.
@kcp7042
@kcp7042 2 күн бұрын
Geno is one of the top passers this year out of necessity. Hawks can’t establish the run game, get behind, have to pass.
@Jason-lk9yi
@Jason-lk9yi 2 күн бұрын
Geno has been the worst redzone QB in the NFL over the last 2 years, and not just with INT's either, Geno had the worst redzone completion percentage last year at 43%, this year he's at 48% while leading the league in redzone INT's. That type of redzone play from a QB is crippling. In back-to-back seasons Geno has been 21% less accurate in the redzone, and that's with 2 different HC's, 2 different OC's, and 2 different O-lines.
@jimboskovich6027
@jimboskovich6027 2 күн бұрын
Geno not worth 35 mill
@DeanReeve-cj4rk
@DeanReeve-cj4rk 2 күн бұрын
💯 Option #2
@riffmaker247
@riffmaker247 2 күн бұрын
💯 keep Geno. Veteran O-line. Ooooorr Teddy 2-gloves 😎 haha
@BryceTatro
@BryceTatro 2 күн бұрын
DON'T KEEP GENO
@misterseahawks9617
@misterseahawks9617 2 күн бұрын
So glad these guys are on podcasts and not actually running the team. Jags, Raiders, Jets, Browns pick it the top 5 every year and still suck so tanking for a good pick isn't some cheat code to get good. It's what bad teams do to justify being bad to their fans.
@wjgoh653
@wjgoh653 2 күн бұрын
What about this guy RYS from Ole Miss that they just signed up from the practice squad? He is a triple threat and he is not only a QB but he also can work as a WR. If you aren't gonna put Howell then use this kid for some swap out shots like the Tasom Hill situation at Orleans. Tyler is unlikely to come back or he fades into the background just riding out his contract until retirement.
@wjgoh653
@wjgoh653 2 күн бұрын
everyone forgets, the ONE guy who never leaves the field is the QB. Every other position can be swapped after a play.The QB stays on the field, regardless of whether hejust got done running back and forth cross field to extend a play or to preserve himself from a sack. No sideline oxy, no bench just a minute or two to gather composure and run the next play. Geno was good once, but his decision making has a lot to be desired. All the teams spend too much on the QB and not enough on his support. Kind of like a warehouse without shelves. Lots of great stuff on the floor, but no way to organize it and make the best use of the space.
@ycar80
@ycar80 2 күн бұрын
We play the AFC South and NFC South next year. Not the time to risk tanking.
@ErikPortland
@ErikPortland 2 күн бұрын
Excellent point.
@ryangross6599
@ryangross6599 2 күн бұрын
I would love to make a move for mccarthy. Geno has been great for what we needed and that has been a bridge qb but frankly his lowlights don't deserve long term money. To me its time to look to the future and open up a window with someone on their rookie contract where we can spend the money from geno and locketts money elsewhere. Those two alone can clear up to 30m next year, cap we desperately need with the cross, mafe, walker, woolen class coming up to contract years.
@kujon1968
@kujon1968 2 күн бұрын
Seattle is close to being a consistent NFC West champ. OL needs help.
@Blantston
@Blantston 19 сағат бұрын
When will the Seahawks unveil the new skirts for the O-Line? Hopefully they will have sequins and flowers to really make them pop!
@arthurlaubach2076
@arthurlaubach2076 2 күн бұрын
Why not keep Geno for his final year, bring in Chip Kelly and his offense and draft Riley Leonard who played under him and learn under Geno. Just a thought. Go Hawks!
@Iron_Hawk_12
@Iron_Hawk_12 2 күн бұрын
Fr, let Geno play his final year and get someone in 2026. Especially if Smith wants more than 30 million a year
@Jason-lk9yi
@Jason-lk9yi 2 күн бұрын
​@@Iron_Hawk_12 Geno will make 38m next year on his current contract. He's not even remotely close to being worth that. I'd rather roll with a QB making 1-5m.
@Iron_Hawk_12
@Iron_Hawk_12 2 күн бұрын
@@Jason-lk9yi 100%, not worth it at all. Seeing the rest of the team get loaded with talent is more valuable than paying 1 player that much money.
@tobyusthomas1731
@tobyusthomas1731 2 күн бұрын
It’s so weird that people really having this conversation. Colin is stupid this ain’t no Super Bowl roster 😂 Geno is a great QB I hope he leaves Seattle so bad this got to be the worse fan base. I hope yall get another qb and only win 4 games
@Jason-lk9yi
@Jason-lk9yi 2 күн бұрын
Geno is a 1 year wonder. He had one fluke season in 2022, since then he's declined right back to vintage Geno.
@Chuckyolson
@Chuckyolson 2 күн бұрын
I agree with Salk 💯. I'm tired of mediocrity. Option 2 is our best option
@2TrackMind-c6i
@2TrackMind-c6i 2 күн бұрын
The ONLY reason I might bring in another QB would be to prepare for Geno's retirement. He's a VERY good QB, but he's 34. Put the money in the O-Line. Do that, and Geno will throw us into the play-offs all day long. I keep saying that if the O-Line can improve by just 20% on just 20% of plays, that'll do it, in a league that has very poor O-line performance all around.
@malalamalala6769
@malalamalala6769 2 күн бұрын
The hawks should make a run at JJ Mc. Picks and trade. If that falls flat. Which I think it will. Re-sign Geno to a team friendly deal. FIX the Oline. Draft Trades or free agency. Bring in a real NFL experienced OC. Plan for future QB, maybe deal SammHowell in this QB hungry market, someone will take him. Draft a late round QB get them on the roster work them out.
@AxelMTG
@AxelMTG 2 күн бұрын
I would suggest discussing how the Seahawks can maximize Geno rather than discussing how to replace him. You even acknowledge that the Seahawks are likely to keep him, so talk about something productive.
@SKYWALKER.SQUATCH
@SKYWALKER.SQUATCH 2 күн бұрын
Go Get J fields! Let him and Geno duke it out. Go Hawks!
@KevinPeterson506
@KevinPeterson506 2 күн бұрын
Both sign Geno and trade for JJ, let Geno play out his contract, give JJ a year to learn the system
@GaryAvona
@GaryAvona 2 күн бұрын
Kenny picket on a prove it contract. He is as good if not better , and younger .
@jrtexpress1686
@jrtexpress1686 2 күн бұрын
Option 2 or 3. Get rid of Geno, it's already half the battle won.
@namoolelolawaia-fishermans5617
@namoolelolawaia-fishermans5617 2 күн бұрын
Best case scenario, we resign Geno, trade DK to accumulate more picks and build that interior line or possible pick up Dylan Gabriel in the 2nd rd.
@riffmaker247
@riffmaker247 2 күн бұрын
Stop it. Geezus it’s not Geno’s fault. Our O-line play was college level resulting in no run game and no time to throw resulting in desperation. A ‘decent’ line and 3-4 fewer interceptions and 1-2 more wins.
@ace448
@ace448 2 күн бұрын
Your real choices are one or two. You either go all in with Geno, get a league average O line and leverage your future cap and picks to do that. Or you trade off assets and cut people to make cap and begin a rebuild. Option 3 is stupid. Without and O line you will ruin JJ and be bad with no picks.
@Darthwing_duck
@Darthwing_duck 2 күн бұрын
Lets get drew lock back. Ill take PJ walker as the back up. You make it too complicated.
@ronhaworth5808
@ronhaworth5808 2 күн бұрын
If Drew Lock could play like he did in that game against the Eagles in late 2023 I wouldn't be opposed to that.
@nojustno242
@nojustno242 2 күн бұрын
We acquired PJ Walker and cut him before this season even started so he wasn't even considered good enough to be a third string quarterback here!
@jonbryant8708
@jonbryant8708 2 күн бұрын
Keep Geno build up the O line and sign Kirk Cousins for a minimum contract when he is free from Atlanta.
@GaryAvona
@GaryAvona 2 күн бұрын
Get Picket and an OL with Geno cap money .
@stevenvanevery7252
@stevenvanevery7252 2 күн бұрын
Option 2, ALL DAY
@Usillee23
@Usillee23 2 күн бұрын
I love the seahawks. But we need invest in O-line first. Cut or trade Geno, K9, DK, Tyler, Noah. Use that money to create a solid O-Line. Then maybe add few more stars in Defense. Defenses wins championships!
@Usillee23
@Usillee23 2 күн бұрын
With Mike M and John S, they can create a Super Defense. Maybe something greater than LOB. 🤞
@Jason-lk9yi
@Jason-lk9yi 2 күн бұрын
Just by cutting Geno, Dre'Mont Jones, Lockett, and Fant that would free up 62m in cap space and that's even after the 47m in dead cap.
@mikea_66
@mikea_66 2 күн бұрын
Trade geno and try your best at trading for jj McCarthy from minn. Or work with the 3 qbs we have under Geno
@jimmiericky
@jimmiericky Күн бұрын
Geno is second in the league for interception's! No on option 1!
@Vrtxx_
@Vrtxx_ 11 сағат бұрын
How about a better O-line?
@DaLaoWay
@DaLaoWay 2 күн бұрын
I think for next season they should sign Ryan Tannehill to play in the three preseason games as the backup and I he’ll be a great backup QB Quarterback or Third String or even Practice Squad QB because, I think they have Sam Howell still for one more year in his rookie QB contract from Washington because he’s only a third year guy and will be a fourth year QB next season for 2025 either way I like it when we win our preseason games also plus having added insurances at QB is always a good thing I’m sure Ryan Tannehill will opt to go for a much cheaper QB contract now that the whole nfl league that nobody wants him because he’s playing like Backup QB level now so hey he didn’t do that bad against Geno Smith last year for 2023 season he made it a lil close of a game but Geno Smith came back with the W Dub all day so let’s f**** go!!!🏈 🙌
@supernaturalta6174
@supernaturalta6174 2 күн бұрын
Even with the problems on the offensive line, the Seahawks roster is NOT a 4-13 roster. It's not a "Super Bowl" roster with that offensive line like Coward said either. If they actually properly went about fixing their offensive line, I think they could put A LOT of quarterbacks in that offense and they would be successful. Mind you, it's not just Sam Darnold. Baker Mayfield is a castoff. Even Jared Goff was a castoff. Brock Purdy was the last pick in that entire 2022 crappy quarterback draft class. The way I see the quarterback position, if Seattle doesn't improve the team around the QB (particularly in front of him on the offensive line), what they do at quarterback doesn't matter. That's how teams like the Jets and Browns are always chasing quarterbacks; that's not what good organizations do. Putting a young quarterback behind our current offensive line would be an unmitigated disaster. Geno has one year left on his deal with a cap hit of $38.5M. I think even he would say he hasn't put his best foot forward in trying to earn a new contract. The best thing would be for the Seahawks to restructure his deal by converting his salary/roster bonus to signing bonus and add 4 void years. That would cut his 2025 cap hit basically in half. That should be the start of some cap cleansing/releases/restructuring moves to retain guys like Ernest Jones on defense. They only spent a little over $19M in 2024 on their ENTIRE offensive line, so make a heavier investment there, because the team already has the weapons around Geno. That would put Geno and the entire team in a better position to succeed. We saw Geno be downright surgical in 2022 with a better line in front of him. If he doesn't succeed under those circumstances in 2025 then he isn't the guy, but I think he can replicate 2022 or even better with a better offensive line.
@briangorby252
@briangorby252 2 күн бұрын
Fix the O-Line before worrying about a QB...
@JohnMurphy-b2e
@JohnMurphy-b2e 2 күн бұрын
I agree with the others on here - we have to upgrade our IOL before we even start looking at QBs. And heaven forbid that the Hawks have a worse year after so many years of mediocrity. How crazy!
@harveyharveyness8773
@harveyharveyness8773 2 күн бұрын
DO NOT re-sign Geno Smith-30 to 40M really-Wake up-if the Hawks don't fix the totally inconsistent "O" line it won't matter whose behind center-I do like the fact we have a young up and coming coach-Mr Schneider needs come out of his fog and get busy or go to Green Bay where his heart is
@Eli-Boolin
@Eli-Boolin 2 күн бұрын
Zach Wilson or feilds would B a good option also getting Jaxon Dart could B a option
@Iron_Hawk_12
@Iron_Hawk_12 2 күн бұрын
Id be happy with Zach, let Geno walk if he wants more than 30 mill
@andremanley7710
@andremanley7710 2 күн бұрын
I don’t care if we reach. QB in first round, then OL second and third for guard/center
@bakkenhawk
@bakkenhawk 2 күн бұрын
Grubb has to go. He is not an NFL caliber play caller. He refuses to run the ball. The proof is in the numbers. Running the ball IS seahawks football. Anybody would tell u
@SuperAudionut
@SuperAudionut 2 күн бұрын
Drew Locke would be better than the choices you gave at $10M would be cheap. But resigning Geno is the most likely sceneario.
@richmarlow5680
@richmarlow5680 2 күн бұрын
I must be missing something, JJ didn't look like a quality pro QB when he was at UM to me.
@douglasthompson9482
@douglasthompson9482 2 күн бұрын
Get a new quarterback….get on with it. Maybe Jimmy from the Rams.
@SKYWALKER.SQUATCH
@SKYWALKER.SQUATCH 2 күн бұрын
😂....no.
@pettibone79
@pettibone79 2 күн бұрын
No GD way are you suggesting Daniel Jones? lol! I want JJ backing up Geno next year.
@erikquinonezjr33
@erikquinonezjr33 2 күн бұрын
Just bring back geno on a friendly deal revamp the interior o-line with rookies and drafting more d-lineman. I don’t get how JJ is worth more than a first if theirs zero tape of him even playing in the nfl yet we would look like a joke taking that bet imo 🤷‍♂️. If we suck next year id rather ride with geno since he has a year under his belt with a college-pro offensive coordinator in Grubb
@Jason-lk9yi
@Jason-lk9yi 2 күн бұрын
If Geno plays the same way he did this year or even worse, not even 25m a year would be team friendly.
@erikquinonezjr33
@erikquinonezjr33 Күн бұрын
@@Jason-lk9yifacts 💯
@ernieallison3141
@ernieallison3141 2 күн бұрын
That J.J. McCarthy take is dumb. Contrary to what Cowherd says, we don't have a SB roster.. Not even close. I don't like mediocre either but these options just don't work. Daniel Jones? Zack Wilson? There is no Sam Darnold 2.0. Darnold went to a team with 3-4 great weapons, a solid Oline and great coaching. We have horrible Oline play, average weapons ( JSN is good, DK over-rated, Lock getting old), a RB 1 that can't stay healthy and an OC that doesn't know how to scheme guys open or figure out a consistent rushing game. Hopefully he does a lot better in year 2.
@maujeanplumly
@maujeanplumly Күн бұрын
Wait for Mateer
@mattkangas3208
@mattkangas3208 2 күн бұрын
Justin fields DK jsn lock would go crazy
@mycatsherman
@mycatsherman 2 күн бұрын
Is this the same Colin Cowherd who didn't know what division the Hawks were in? Yeah, by all means, let's get his take things.
@andyanderson3776
@andyanderson3776 2 күн бұрын
Daniel Jones sucks!!! Zach Wilson Sucks!!!! I'd get Justin Fields.....and draft a QB in the Draft in Green Bay!!!
@3Gunzdeep
@3Gunzdeep 2 күн бұрын
For every Sam Darnold that works out, there’s a Geno Smith it doesn’t
@chrisrichards2827
@chrisrichards2827 2 күн бұрын
I'd never give up a first round pick for JJ McCarthy cuz we don't know how good he is he hasn't played at all so obviously he's not better than Sam darnold or else he'd be starting for the Vikings so no way a first round pick for a player that's unproven.
@larrywarren2130
@larrywarren2130 2 күн бұрын
Good grief how distorted is someone's Idea of their own self worth. 35 million means they make more every game than I made my entire working life. That's nuts!!!
@TheFrothyBrew
@TheFrothyBrew 2 күн бұрын
That's the evil of capitalism - conflating wealth with worth.
@digitaledu6624
@digitaledu6624 2 күн бұрын
If you don't play professional sports then these comment make no sense.
@TheFrothyBrew
@TheFrothyBrew 2 күн бұрын
@@digitaledu6624 looks like what you were replying to was removed
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