Is Honda's E-Clutch A Gearbox Game-Changer?

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Honda is offering the CB650R and CBR650R with something called E-Clutch, but what is it, and do you want it? We rode both bikes in E-Clutch form to find out.
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@pax1980
@pax1980 5 ай бұрын
The term 'Conventional Quiickshifter' blows my mind a bit...
@xCr0nus
@xCr0nus 4 ай бұрын
Boomer take
@dynamotightstar3472
@dynamotightstar3472 5 ай бұрын
I had a DCT Africa Twin for off roading. The DCT is the singke best peice of bike tech I've experienced to date. That said, its not enjoyable not having a clutch to feather in the dirt. It still works but its a lot of hard work. Id have a DCT for road though for sure.
@aluisious
@aluisious 2 ай бұрын
The DCT is heavy. OK on a car, not what I want on a bike.
@67daltonknox
@67daltonknox 4 ай бұрын
Maneuvering at low speeds, I need to have a clutch engagement that I can rely on. No automatic is going to give that so you end up having to juggle engagement against the rear brake. Too uncertain in my opinion.
@thetowndrunk988
@thetowndrunk988 2 ай бұрын
Except you can also use the clutch lever. Why does everyone keep making this tired point? Did you, or anyone else, even watch the video? Or even read about the tech? You still have a clutch lever. You just don’t have to use it, unless you really want to
@anishghosh9563
@anishghosh9563 3 ай бұрын
Imagine this scenario, you're waiting at a stop light while in 1st! You see all your buddies revving their motors so you decide to join them. But the fact that you got an e-clutch, you forgot that you're in 1st not in neutral. Rest is history.
@trayvondadon5723
@trayvondadon5723 3 ай бұрын
you could always just squeeze the clutch lever
@aluisious
@aluisious 2 ай бұрын
Imagine this scenario: You're on KZbin. You see all these people writing interesting comments. You start tapping on the keyboard, but some pointless shit comes out instead. You press post anyway.
@SuPpOsEdLyThIsIsCoOl
@SuPpOsEdLyThIsIsCoOl 5 ай бұрын
As a commuter, I think this is brilliant
@gloomsouls
@gloomsouls 3 ай бұрын
Exactly
@Evo_Spec
@Evo_Spec 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for explaining and providing images of how the E-Clutch works. This is actually an ingenious design, I love how the manual clutch will always have priority over the system.
@judge831
@judge831 5 ай бұрын
faster, smoother shifts sound great. It sounds like a superior quick shifter
@WiwatChang
@WiwatChang 5 ай бұрын
Older riders in heavily congested cities (like Bangkok in my country) can now ride a proper bike in town without risk of stalling/ misshifting instead of scooters
@M_Jono
@M_Jono 4 ай бұрын
Just ride your moped sissy
@mc_sim
@mc_sim 4 ай бұрын
Buying a 100hp sportbike instead of a scooter for elderly? A recipe for disaster.
@aluisious
@aluisious 2 ай бұрын
Why do they need to be older?
@WiwatChang
@WiwatChang 2 ай бұрын
@aluisious I didn't say need to be older, just suggesting one demographic of riders. But the point is that older riders in general tend to be less responsive as younger ones. This general apply to all sorts of physical activities.
@JDelta87
@JDelta87 5 ай бұрын
When did motorcyclist get so sensitive towards manually shifting a motorcycle like it’s a chore? For some it’s part of the engagement, for others it’s a distraction but you don’t have to diss one to bring the other up. Just enjoy the ride.
@timessix8434
@timessix8434 5 ай бұрын
The exact same debate has been going on in the car world since Porsche made the 991.1GT3 PDK-only…. 2014
@512460
@512460 5 ай бұрын
I remember I wanted one too lol​@@timessix8434
@KapitanPisoar1
@KapitanPisoar1 5 ай бұрын
@@timessix8434 That's true, lazy knobs ruin everything...
@silotx
@silotx 5 ай бұрын
There are hundreds of new manual motorcycles and those models have a manual only version why are you even on this video?
@tkraft1442
@tkraft1442 5 ай бұрын
It's two worlds in one, why be annoyed by that?..
@cpuuk
@cpuuk 5 ай бұрын
Only one question- when are Honda putting e-clutch on their other bikes?
@kenjimdotcom
@kenjimdotcom 5 ай бұрын
I'm missing 2 fingers on my left hand, so this makes me so happy!
@gren509
@gren509 5 ай бұрын
They could shift the "box of tricks" under the tank, and have it pull the ordinary clutch cable - then it could be fitted to any bike !?
@DomhnallP
@DomhnallP 4 ай бұрын
The engineers are probably worried about cable slop and it’s effects on the algorithm of the MCU, better in most cases to have the computer control where the system has the least amount of mechanical slop
@aluisious
@aluisious 2 ай бұрын
It could be fitted to nearly any bike anyway.
@ridingdriving
@ridingdriving 5 ай бұрын
dct was designed for racing adapted to products...it was not designed for luxury but can well be adapted into it. the twin clutch was developed in the 80s by porsche and audi for their racing and rally program respectively
@primonda56
@primonda56 4 ай бұрын
Manual and semi-manual clutch all in one? Awesome! As long this tech is reliable, I'm all in!
@erikeykey
@erikeykey 2 ай бұрын
I took a test ride today on the new CB650R with e-Clutch, it was awesome! I loved the system, it was really cool!
@nickrider5220
@nickrider5220 5 ай бұрын
Good presentation....why are you saying lev-ver instead of leever ? Britain isn't the 51st state of the US !
@cw3728
@cw3728 5 ай бұрын
These guys are rookies, full of americanisms.
@pggp273
@pggp273 3 ай бұрын
I just see this novelty gimmick as an expensive repair bill coming down the line in the future.
@fluxx7217
@fluxx7217 4 ай бұрын
Funny how the Gearbox debate is the same as the normal bike va ebike debate 😂 In the end when the dust settles everyone can use what they want and all the ney sayers that tried this will realize that after all it is pretty nice
@UncleWally3
@UncleWally3 5 ай бұрын
Took me 30 000 kilometers to fall for the DCT; certainly wasn’t love at first feel, but it shifted my perspective.
@akshaykumar_r
@akshaykumar_r 5 ай бұрын
Hahaha _shifted_ 🤣
@ktkace
@ktkace 5 ай бұрын
break it and its an expensive mess... worked at a shop and have a few overheated examples because wrong oil is used...
@someguy9520
@someguy9520 4 ай бұрын
Well using the wrong maintenance items and having damage because of it, is very much NOT a fault of DCT. Using wrong engine oil in any modern engine can cause many issues Search for the ytuber Varahannes. He has a Honda Varadero and a Afrika Twin 1000 DCT The AT has over 500.000 ans absolutely no issues with engine or transmission
@shvy100
@shvy100 4 ай бұрын
​@someguy9520 I think he means the price to fix is twice when it's a dct vs a conventional one
@nlmaster9811
@nlmaster9811 Ай бұрын
If they throw this on the next gen cb1000r I’ll buy it.
@brianhoward9217
@brianhoward9217 3 ай бұрын
Why bother - DCT has evolved over the past 15 years and is flawless. Seems like a storm in a tea cup to me this clutchless electronic guff. Just go DCT - can't go wrong! Anyway, my Kawasaki KV75 minibike has a clutchless gear change in 1973. The Honda Monkey had it in the 1960s. Why go half baked system - go the proper DCT! Africa Twin has it all sorted for you.
@thetowndrunk988
@thetowndrunk988 2 ай бұрын
A) a lot of people still love shifting gears, and I don’t mean with a button, but actually properly shifting them manually B) show me a sport bike with a DCT. Not everybody wants an Africa twin, NC750X, or a damned big ass barge. C) it’s not just a centrifugal clutch, like your monkey. It’s a proper clutch, that you can still use manually for slow speed maneuvering, while still enjoying the benefits of clutchless shifting, that’s even smoother and faster than quick shifters.
@brianhoward9217
@brianhoward9217 2 ай бұрын
@@thetowndrunk988 I suppose you're right in a way - some people still like riding horses for that 'natural feel' and they'd never think of a motorbike. I'm just saying that why do things by halves? It doesn't sound like you've ridden an Africa Twin - I can commend it to you, just make sure it is the '24 model as the DCT is so close to perfect in this latest incarnation it is supernatural - like the DCTs in Porsche and Merc it truly has a supernatural read on things. I've only ridden an AT DCT for about 40 mins - I don't own one yet - but I'm completely sold. Incidentally, in the twisties DCT can make you a BETTER rider, as many reviewers have admitted, as in not having to do the shift/leg/foot/clutch dance a thousand times per ride you are freed up to concentrate more intensely on the actual road, animals running out, corner approach and other technicalities. Oh, and they still make a completely manual model for those like you who still need a workout! 🙂
@thetowndrunk988
@thetowndrunk988 2 ай бұрын
@@brianhoward9217 I rode the NC750X with a DCT. It is awesome, no doubt. But, it’s not a sport bike, and there’s a reason I own a Busa. That said, the Busa stays in the garage when I’m running errands, and if weather is good, I have a scooter. The reason?- I hate using the clutch in traffic, and of course with the Busa, you’ll hardly ever change gears in town. It’d be awesome to have a proper motorcycle, that can still get up and go, while being easier to ride around town. The NC750X is the absolute perfect commuter bike, but I find it boring. If someone came out with a true sport bike with DCT, I’d be interested for sure. Until then, this is the next best thing. And I still enjoy shifting gears most of the time. I just hate constantly clutching in traffic.
@brianhoward9217
@brianhoward9217 2 ай бұрын
@@thetowndrunk988 Against that backdrop I'd strongly suggest you'd love owning an Africa twin. Again, I don't own one YET, however based on what you say it could very well be your ideal bike. It has appreciably more mumbo (read low-down torque) than the 750, handles as fast and as confidently as you'd reasonably like to take a bike through canyons or twisties (sure, no scalpal sportsbike) and is as easy to live with and practical for urban stuff as the 750. Take a test ride, this AT DCT truly is a do it all bike. I've had a Ducati Multistrada since new in 2014 and that 150HP is, I thought, a hard thing to give up for the lowly 100 in the AT. I was mistaken in that worry as max torque in the AT arrives at 5,500 rpm and the Multi many thousands higher. An AT DCT can run 0-100kph on a shande over 3 secs, The Multi is 2.9 secs. AT not bad for only 2/3 the power - it is the luscious torque wave that does it and no time taken changing gears. It just GOES! So, it has performance, ease of use, better handling that the good handling of your 750 and is a real off road bike to boot. Give one a test ride, I'd be very interested to see what you think 🙂
@carlbModels
@carlbModels 4 ай бұрын
I'd have one, and choose when to use it. Perfect solution 👍🍺🇬🇧
@MagnumMuscle1000
@MagnumMuscle1000 5 ай бұрын
But, why? It's cool tech but a solution in search of a problem. Honda needs to focus on more powerful bikes that are exciting, not this stuff.
@T595955i
@T595955i 4 ай бұрын
Yep, pretty much this ^^
@heislyn8569
@heislyn8569 3 ай бұрын
It's more like an intelligent manual transmission
@willelliott5052
@willelliott5052 5 ай бұрын
Yamaha offered a similar clutch system on the FJR1300 for a few years. I owned one and liked it a lot. I have also owned a DCT Honda, and while the shifts were silky smooth, the auto shift points were not great, and it added a lot of weight. Hopefully Honda will add the logic to support auto shifting with this new system.
@azreenklose7976
@azreenklose7976 4 ай бұрын
Oh .... that YCC-S system .......
@ashyu_
@ashyu_ 5 ай бұрын
I need to see the shop manual on how complicated changing the clutch will be before I even decide to buy one of these.
@ripmax333
@ripmax333 5 ай бұрын
Knowing Honda it may be surprisingly easy, just another module to remove with maybe another 4 bolts.
@vielumiereg9794
@vielumiereg9794 5 ай бұрын
A friend of mine has one... Easy to replace, but expensive either way to get worked on.
@Aydenosine
@Aydenosine 5 ай бұрын
I think the system only adds a complete module in top of the case, so the clutch system inside would be just the same.
@2Meerkats
@2Meerkats 3 ай бұрын
$100 - Add this to the 750 TransAlp
@peteranson4021
@peteranson4021 4 ай бұрын
My first thought was "what a useless idea" but it obviously works well. I was reminded that many years ago I had a little race bike with a Yamaha TZ125 engine, and on one particular track I was doing around 30 gear changes per lap. Even with the extremely light clutch of the Yamaha, by the end of a day of 2 or 3 practice sessions and 4 races I was doing lots of clutchless shifting because my hand just wasn't quick enough any more. With that in mind it sounds like a great idea.
@erikeykey
@erikeykey 2 ай бұрын
When I read about it I also thought "what a stupid idea". Tried the new CB650R with e-clutch today, it was awesome. I totally understand and love the idea after trying it.
@thejdmguru621
@thejdmguru621 4 ай бұрын
Man I wish we got the 650 here in South Africa, such a good looking bike.
@judge831
@judge831 5 ай бұрын
When is do we get a CBR750R with Hornet engine & E-clutch? That's what I want.
@KrypteiaXi
@KrypteiaXi 4 ай бұрын
You really want to swap out the amazing inline-4 in favor of that lame twin? 🤮people are weird…
@ozzyg82
@ozzyg82 2 ай бұрын
I’m just not sure about the way it looks as though it’s a tacked-on after-thought; this weird additional lump, like a tumour growing on the outside of your engine. Couldn’t Honda have made it more discreet or position it so it doesn’t stick out where the rider’s knee is?
@antoniom4016
@antoniom4016 4 ай бұрын
Great innovation by honda. I believe it's ok to break from the old tradition of keeping certain things the same. Not everything needs to be "taboo"
@fatcole1152
@fatcole1152 5 ай бұрын
Damn, it really is impossible to find a corner of the internet to avoid hearing either of those celebrity names
@Naldo_S1K
@Naldo_S1K 5 ай бұрын
Well it worked. You engaged! 😉
@fatcole1152
@fatcole1152 5 ай бұрын
@@Naldo_S1K I'd rather engage them gears, amirite?
@Naldo_S1K
@Naldo_S1K 5 ай бұрын
@@fatcole1152 lol. You got me!
@BLAKEEATS1988
@BLAKEEATS1988 2 ай бұрын
as someone who suffers from trigger finger and heavy traffic, this is an amazing solution. People who are purists might was well drive a non abs, non led, non disc brake, non liquid cooled motorcycle and have their hairline back to the 30's. if we fail to grasp the concept of innovation and be like the flat earthers during Galileos time, then we might as well just ride a horse and not use our smartphones.
@HoangLe-or3qq
@HoangLe-or3qq Ай бұрын
Im surprised of why they are coming with this feature now... Back in 2000s we already drove underbone Honda Wave 110 125, Yamaha Sirus, ... They are called semi-automatic clutch motorcycles and they work the same way as this E-clutch. The cost of the bike is around 7-800 euro, so it is not magical enough to be expensive. Can someone tell me the differences?
@TheLoathsomeCowboy
@TheLoathsomeCowboy Ай бұрын
Being someone who years ago lost three fingers off my left hand because of an industrial accident, this looks brilliant! Stop-go urban traffic has always been a chore, and I’ve had to pass on a couple of bike purchases simply because the clutch was beyond me. Well done Honda!
@flexjay87
@flexjay87 5 ай бұрын
Even if it works okay, this sounds exactly like modern day marketing, brainwashing customers into what they want you to have, not really what people want. There is almost always some hidden reason for this.Usually its money, Epa regulations , and or insurance company politics, etc.
@thetowndrunk988
@thetowndrunk988 2 ай бұрын
Oh ffs. It’s still a full clutch. You can still manually operate it. It allows you to not have to pull in the clutch lever, unless you want to, and because it can control the clutch, it allows for even faster and smoother quick shifting in both directions. There’s no conspiracy here. There are tons of people that don’t wanna have to use a clutch anymore to ride, especially in traffic (myself included, which is why the Busa sits in the garage, and I take a scooter when I’m running errands around town).
@flexjay87
@flexjay87 2 ай бұрын
@@thetowndrunk988 , slow clap :)
@SuperDavensuziyoutub
@SuperDavensuziyoutub 2 ай бұрын
Yet more car type,expensive,complicated, unnecessary load of bollox. More to go wrong,maintain for ZERO extra benefits. Still bike makers cannot even give us comfortable seats, screens that work,mudguards that work,centre stands,decent sized tanks. The list goes on.
@Vo0Do0972
@Vo0Do0972 Ай бұрын
sorry... the clutch isnt the fun part of motorcycling? are you daft. To each their own, its very silly to think that all or most riders don't like clutches. Many of us ride because of the feeling and engagement with the process. I'm sad for the day that bikes go the way of cars and get rid of manuals all together.
@John-o6v4h
@John-o6v4h 5 ай бұрын
I rarely use the clutch. Any bike. Do not get me wrong I know how to use it and off road it is needed more.
@dawitfikadu5751
@dawitfikadu5751 5 ай бұрын
Thanks I’m fine pulling a lever. Now about that wrestling ?
@acap727
@acap727 5 ай бұрын
Imagine this on a heavy traffic.
@mannyechaluce3814
@mannyechaluce3814 5 ай бұрын
be awesome, you can pick your nose with your left hand now :D
@aster2308
@aster2308 5 ай бұрын
Calling it a conventional quickshifter is such an understatement, its better, cheaper and more reliable than the modern quickshifters on modern bikes.
@thetowndrunk988
@thetowndrunk988 2 ай бұрын
Indeed. People are not understanding how this works.
@adam346
@adam346 5 ай бұрын
for the same rough cost as having ABS (in N/A)... why wouldn't you put it on all your bikes? Maybe leave the Grom and 300 series out of it but I see absolutely not reason why it shouldn't be slapped on everything... you want manual? Use it like a manual. You want to just rip it on a highway and let the e-clutch do its thing? Rip away. Have to emergency brake and forget to actively down-shift? No problem!
@SRU88111
@SRU88111 5 ай бұрын
Maybe Europeans or Americans won't need it but Vietnam does. Many people buy a manual motorbike and then sell it quickly because they can't stand the clutch 😂 I used google translate so please forgive me if there is anything incorrect 😀
@2Meerkats
@2Meerkats 16 күн бұрын
Add this to TransAlp & Africa Twin already... 👍👍👍 Hurry up Honda
@oktanskioktan9372
@oktanskioktan9372 Ай бұрын
Make automatic clutch for a vehicle that barely uses clutch. Call it game changer 😂😂😂😂
@lgrw660factory
@lgrw660factory 5 ай бұрын
I don’t see the point in this solution. I’m perfectly happy with a quick shifter and I’d probably be okay without that too if I loved a bike that didn’t come with one. I can imagine that DCT is great on a Goldwing or an Africa Twin. This looks like a solution looking for a problem.
@gibble75310
@gibble75310 5 ай бұрын
it reduces shift shock and you can use it at low rpms and low load unlike a quick shifter. especially auto blippers are rare from manufacturer. i have a mild disability and can't blip the throttle while squeezing the brake so I'm really hoping this comes to the united states.
@thetowndrunk988
@thetowndrunk988 2 ай бұрын
@@gibble75310It is. 24’ CBR650R has it.
@thetowndrunk988
@thetowndrunk988 2 ай бұрын
The point is it’s even faster and smoother than a quick shifter, it allows shifting at any rpm and load, and it allows you to still have a full manual transmission, while not having to constantly worth the clutch in traffic. The best part- you can still use the clutch.
@timwaldram5619
@timwaldram5619 5 ай бұрын
It’s a lever, not a levver.
@rigetskenderaj7014
@rigetskenderaj7014 Ай бұрын
When you brake it is necessary to down shift or the e cluch does it automatically?
@ironhorsehero1988
@ironhorsehero1988 5 ай бұрын
Distinct lack of footage or stills showing just how much it sticks out, it looked like a positive attempt to hide it, both my bikes have quick shifters but I only use them occasionally so would be quite happy to have the slimmer manual one.
@gavinstubbs3949
@gavinstubbs3949 4 ай бұрын
Tec to keep a eye on as it dont seem that long ago people was say who needs a quickshifter now people walk away from bikes without 1
@vika0194
@vika0194 4 ай бұрын
This should have been a thing 10 years ago. Having to use a clutch is very unmodern and unnecessary.
@t288msd
@t288msd 5 ай бұрын
When will other manufacturers catch up to Honda. I'm absolutely sold on Honda's DCT and have been for 10 years.... can't wait to try this. Others need to catch up
@Sanisani9
@Sanisani9 5 ай бұрын
You must be old
@t288msd
@t288msd 5 ай бұрын
@@Sanisani9 no. Lazy, modern, efficient like all the automatic car drivers out there.
@nordstar2698
@nordstar2698 5 ай бұрын
Don't see the appeal of making bikes as boring and automated as cars. You might see it as other manufacturers needing to "catch up", I see it as Honda making soulless bikes I wouldn't ride for free.
@t288msd
@t288msd 5 ай бұрын
@@nordstar2698 Understood. Depends why you ride. I ride to get easily from A to B. I love riding but only ride to commute to work Others ride for the thrill, the feeling, the raw mechanical feel. I understand why those enjoy a more manual gearbox. Horses for courses.
@All_SportGG
@All_SportGG 5 ай бұрын
​@@t288msdfor commuter bikes yes other manufacturers need to catch up. I have a honda xadv and i also love the dct. But for sports bikes i really hope this doesn't become a thing.
@xray809
@xray809 Ай бұрын
Yes its the perfect gear box i own one and enjoy it every day!
@davidwaddington9414
@davidwaddington9414 4 ай бұрын
perhaps if you didn't talk so fast I could understand how this works, is it a twist and go ?
@NitrogenNO2
@NitrogenNO2 4 ай бұрын
My guy we clicked on the e clutch review you don't have to do the song and dance about clicking away
@Neoptolemus
@Neoptolemus 4 ай бұрын
I would call it quickshifter development.
@mc_sim
@mc_sim 4 ай бұрын
For some not very obvious reason it is additional 400€ for EU. 😮
@Asher104
@Asher104 4 ай бұрын
There is nothing hard about using a clutch in traffic. Lazy
@user-mk5ih9mt3
@user-mk5ih9mt3 5 ай бұрын
Honda本田の会社は、蓬田美奈子と前田明音42歳です、前田明音42歳は静岡県ですよ、蓬田美奈子の時から、ずっと悪循環だと思います.
@nemerkha
@nemerkha 5 ай бұрын
*laughs in 3rd gen Yammie 9gt plus quick shifter*
@MrZedosAlhos
@MrZedosAlhos 4 ай бұрын
Isn't this similar to what Triumph Daytona 660 has?
@andyroberts8358
@andyroberts8358 5 ай бұрын
Great video Matt, all over the e clutch
@Jaaaa315
@Jaaaa315 5 ай бұрын
Honda fans hate automatics until they’re made by honda
@tonymcflattie2450
@tonymcflattie2450 5 ай бұрын
Damm… Honda always innovating!
@LeeTillbury
@LeeTillbury 5 ай бұрын
Since when?? Not recently
@TheDervMan
@TheDervMan 5 ай бұрын
@@LeeTillbury They don't even fit Cruise Control as standard, the new Africa Twin needs it.
@holthuizenoemoet591
@holthuizenoemoet591 5 ай бұрын
agressive of the line is good, automatic systems are often why to soft
@mrmando69
@mrmando69 4 ай бұрын
I can't think of a more pointless invention , ever .
@axe4770
@axe4770 4 ай бұрын
So it basically just like centrifugal clutch with extra step? Welp, why not just give them centrifugal instead so much cheaper, already well designed and developed for years.
@thetowndrunk988
@thetowndrunk988 2 ай бұрын
Because it still allows full manual control of the clutch, like for very slow speed maneuvering, plus the fact that the computer disengages the clutch during a shift makes it smoother, especially at lower rpm’s.
@marvin2141
@marvin2141 4 ай бұрын
I must say that the e-clutch sounds very interesting! I have damaged my left wrist in an previous accident. It left permanent damage to my wrist and some times when riding longer trips my wrist starts hurting from using the clutch. This could really help it!
@erikeykey
@erikeykey 2 ай бұрын
Try it! I took the new CB650R for a test ride today, it was awesome, you are going to love it!
@riossioseternal4837
@riossioseternal4837 5 ай бұрын
I want one, in city traffic is the worst
@optimussubprime8982
@optimussubprime8982 4 ай бұрын
What's wrong with a cable? Too hard for you? Just give me a bike with no silly gadgets, like the eighties...
@paul5683
@paul5683 2 ай бұрын
You better go back to using a flip phone too than. Or maybe a big old rotary dial will suit you.
@birchwoodbiker
@birchwoodbiker 5 ай бұрын
It's not faster off the line than the DCT yet strange it's rev range engages up from 1.5rpm, where the DCT is 2k, Brilliant technolagy, I have a DCT Honda should make this available on the NC750x Manual, and it will be intresting how it performes on a parrelel twin rather a inline four "great Vid"👍👍👍
@marinusk67
@marinusk67 5 ай бұрын
I rather had some better suspension than electronic gimmicks. And the option for different seats
@peterquest6406
@peterquest6406 Ай бұрын
Why have a clutch lever at all then?
@MrJohnQCitizen
@MrJohnQCitizen 5 ай бұрын
Clutch levver?
@M_Jono
@M_Jono 4 ай бұрын
YOU ALL SHOULD JUST RIDE A MOPED
@stinkybeam
@stinkybeam Ай бұрын
As a cyclist, we have wireless gear shifting. I hope some day motorbike has this too. so you can shift gear by pressing a button with thumb, you don't need to use foot to change gear anymore.
@sereneturmoil
@sereneturmoil 5 ай бұрын
This is certainly an appealing new technology and option. As someone who has a Rekluse Centrifugal clutch in my KTM, which effectively makes the bike an automatic in first gear but requires traditional shifting for every other gear, that is awesome for commuting situations the E-Clutch is like a more advanced, technical and broad evolution of that idea and the quick-shifter combined. Honda has my attention with this new tech and I look forward to seeing what they, and the industry as a whole, do with it.
@neilhaughey6869
@neilhaughey6869 5 ай бұрын
Exactly this, many are not getting how much of game changer this new tech can become. Gone is the need to be riding the clutch lever and rear brake in heavy slow moving traffic. A proper motorcycle as easy and relaxing to ride in heavy traffic as a scooter is a big thing for many people.
@thetowndrunk988
@thetowndrunk988 2 ай бұрын
@@neilhaughey6869Exactly. Even better is the fact you can use the clutch and rear brake manually if you absolutely have to. This is the best damned thing to come out on motorcycles, I’ve seen in years.
@jimporter
@jimporter 4 ай бұрын
Now if they make to gear change using the same tech those of us that have a foot injury could ride any bike and not just the DCT ones. What reviewers always forget is that it is DCT that makes the bike an automatic it is the electronics, so put an actuator on the gear lever instead a mechanical connection (as BMW are going to do) stick a couple of buttons on the handlebars (as BMW aren’t going to do), put the lot under EMU control with a six axis and you have the best of all worlds and everyone would be happy, manual, auto, injured hand, injured foot, just lazy, virtually everyone.
@antoniom4016
@antoniom4016 2 ай бұрын
Great. I just saw the article the other day that honda e-clutch is coming to the USA in September 2024👍🏾👌🏾
@ktkace
@ktkace 5 ай бұрын
I'll give it a year to mature and/or break and see how much it cost long term to upkeep... FYI ,slipper clutch for newbies = burnt clutch so...
@linaslinas3170
@linaslinas3170 5 ай бұрын
For 100 pounds i could test that. It should be easy to remove since it already have bypass. Be realistic anyone now after quick shift, auto blippers, and gpshifts, but for average rider its gives no real advantage. Average motorcyclist rides to rearly, cant corner properly, and these technologies give some of them thought that they already superiors compared to other, second they try to drag a knee without real understanding why do that, and after max 10 000km they are laying in corner.... Best mod for motorcycle is driving itself.
@greyly_
@greyly_ 5 ай бұрын
How do you make a video about this topic and then edit out all the downshifts? Does it sound like an auto-blipper? Guess I'll never know.
@vijandranrajandram6427
@vijandranrajandram6427 5 ай бұрын
Big game change e clucted
@Kiwi_NZ610
@Kiwi_NZ610 4 ай бұрын
That's the future i am guessing
@McTwistedTwisties
@McTwistedTwisties 4 ай бұрын
looks like honda is bringing the best bits of their DCT tech to the track & street. I love my DCT on my Africa Twin and would love a track day weapon with it. PSA: I still know and ride manual bikes from time to time, just finding DCT Africa Twins is much easier and cheaper than the manual, and honestly they both have their trade offs.
@Realworldhan
@Realworldhan 5 ай бұрын
Needs to go on a bigger bike..1000 hornet..
@cascarification
@cascarification 5 ай бұрын
Probablemente lo pondrán cuando salga
@aluisious
@aluisious 2 ай бұрын
Seems like a good system, especially in traffic. If it's "a bit aggressive off the line," you can grab the lever right before you want to go off (seeing the light changing), and manage it yourself.
@Doomer0898
@Doomer0898 4 ай бұрын
i am all for technology and innovation, but i cant help but see this as "just another thing that can break" then again, i am not a sports bike rider. so my mentality towards bikes is keep them stripped down and as simple as possible.
@seancycle1
@seancycle1 4 ай бұрын
I was thinking this might be good for sitting at border crossings for long periods (like USA/Canada). I quit riding between border crossings because of the endless shifting and overheating on some of my bikes.
@AkaiSuzume
@AkaiSuzume 5 ай бұрын
Why am I cringing so hard looking at the bike being in 1st and you not holding the clutch. This deeply disturbs my soul...
@eco98
@eco98 2 ай бұрын
Isn't this just a dct without auto gear changes?
@thetowndrunk988
@thetowndrunk988 2 ай бұрын
No. It isn’t using dual clutches. It’s using an automated clutch, that can also be manually controlled.
@jhenmoko2028
@jhenmoko2028 4 ай бұрын
Here in Philippines that e clutch would be so much of help for our daily riders the traffic here is so much worst that some manual motorcycle often sold to be replaced by automatic scooters because of traffic
@dexran.v
@dexran.v 5 ай бұрын
Does anyone know if it's possible to convert the taillight from the 2024 variant to the 2023 variant? Would be really cool if it worked because I think the front of the 2023 looks better than the 2024 front :) Would be a good combination with the 2023 front and 2024 rear lights.
@fredrik999z
@fredrik999z 5 ай бұрын
The problem is not the clutch level, it’s the foot level. When someone invents buttons on the steering handle to shift instead of using your foot it’s an innovation. Yes, DCT has this function but it adds 10 kg if weight and more service costs.
@MRworldEtIkA
@MRworldEtIkA 5 ай бұрын
and their CBR150R is still being bullied here in my country
@DucatiMonster-x2k
@DucatiMonster-x2k 4 ай бұрын
Will be interesting to see if Honda can also make it behave like a slipper clutch?
@radiocrash
@radiocrash 4 ай бұрын
No.
@mosca3289
@mosca3289 5 ай бұрын
I’ve always been a clumsy gear changer. Love to have an e clutch.
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