Is Hyper-Threading Useless For Gaming Now? 40 Game Benchmark with i9 13900K

Ever since I did some tests with my 13700K with e-cores enabled and disabled I wondered now that we’ve got smaller cores to handles background tasks, is hyper threading necessary for larger p-cores especially when it comes to gaming. I tested 40 games from a wide variety of genres, game engines, and APIs to see what the impacts are like on a modern higher core count CPU from Intel such as an i9-13900K which utilizes this hybrid architecture. We investigate the potential factors behind these results, considering resource allocation, thread synchronization, memory bandwidth, game optimization, and background task offloading. This comprehensive analysis empowers you to make an informed decision on whether to enable or disable Hyper-Threading, tailored to your specific gaming preferences and needs.
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[@jouniosmala9921]

The improved performance probably comes mostly from cache hit rate as no longer the threads push each others data out of cache.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

This makes a lot of sense. We have seen how important cache is for CPU performance.

[@Gibus21250]

With HT, when 2 thread works on the same data AND run on the same core (from the the same processus), it can increase a lot the performance. But as a developper view, wa cannot contains our thread into a specific core, it s the OS who choose, and yes, if 2 thread of different processus run on the same core, they share the L1 data cache, and increase the cache miss prpbability!

[@NrGSourcEsurfeR]

I9 i7 shouldnt really rock kuch differnt depending how you set them up, hyperthreading depends on the game your playing because not all devs are great at implementing it

[@silfrido1768]

And people say L2 cache per core doesn’t matter…. I swear people say anything & think they are correct. I’m not saying you btw lol

[@LBXZero]

For hyperthreading/SMT in the modern architecture, each CPU core has at least 3 pipelines per core and several ALUs and 1 or maybe 2 FPUs. The primary pipeline has a fetch/decode unit. The secondary pipeline in an hyperthreaded/SMT core also has a fetch/decode unit to serve as a second thread. The tertiary pipelines are given hardware accelerated operations like superscalar operations. All of these pipelines share the ALUs and FPU(s) of the core. Given the low FPU count versus ALUs, games that utilize heavy FPU performance on the CPU may benefit from disabling hyperthreading/SMT to relieve the demand on the 1 or 2 FPUs available. The point of hyperthreading was making use of the secondary pipeline that executed the MMX, SSE, and other hardware acceleration instructions when such operations were not being called. The main pipeline will have data set up for a hardware accelerated function and when executed, the CPU firmware will issue a series of instructions (no fetch/decode stages) through an available secondary pipeline and do such data processing using the extra ALUs. Hyperthreading was about putting that secondary pipeline and extra ALUs to work when the applications don't use the related instruction libraries. Your performance improvements can come from adverse effects from sharing the various ALUs and few FPUs. Another improvement could be less thermal throttling from running less parts per core, allowing higher clocks. Many possibilities that need a bit of studying to figure out.

[@PAIN-ot4cj]

Great reviews, these are the type of scenarios I search for on google or reddit. Glad you made these videos.

[@folkoven4402]

Is it necessary to turn off ht in the bios, or can I use process lasso and just tell the game not to use ht?

[@malceum]

Very good test, but I would have liked to see BF2042. It's by far the most CPU demanding game around. It uses 17 threads if the CPU supports it, and I'm curious how the game would perform with most of those threads being put on e-cores with HT off. Historically, Battlefield games have benefited from hyper-threading.

[@lon3wolf642]

Add Cyberpunk 2077 as well, turn off SMT support and you are in a world of pain.

[@crazycop7774]

it stutters like hell. That's what happens when you turn off HT on bf2042.

[@bamboo9666]

Cyberpunk use all of my 20 threads..

[@cameron481a]

@@crazycop7774 I actually didn’t find this to be true for me. Bumped my fps and stable in bf2042

[@facegamefps6725]

@@cameron481asame here 6.0 4.6 8400 ddr5

[@XiaOmegaX]

With HT on, every time the core changes process context it has to dump L1 and L2 cache, do thing #2, dump cache again, do thing 1# again, repeat over and over.

[@JamesSmith-sw3nk]

I have a 13700k pc for my office and a 5800x3d for my gaming pc. I REALLY like how smooth my 13700k pc is. I can cpu mine with the "P-cores" and still use the browser, watch 4k youtube video, use social media, even play older games without any stuttering on the "E-cores". I think my next gaming pc will be Intel.

[@jordypolfliet6911]

Your mom or boss does not understand why the energy bill rises even while just installed 20 solar panels. Paying 4000 USD/year for your mining expedition which gives you the equivalent of 200-500USD. CPU mining needs to be punishable by law.

[@cemsengul16]

Yes there needs to be punishment by law.​@@jordypolfliet6911

[@JasonChen927]

Yeah as long as there is no power usage concern, multi-tasking with E-core is very efficient.

[@sanchezmiki2006]

How do you lock you cores to stay at a set frequency i have my 13900ks at an all core of 57 and 45 but when im playing a few cores drop to 5600 for a slight scond.

[@kirkh4205]

Nice report, I would be interested in your temps during these tests too. Does having HT off help lower temps at all?

[@v0rtex87]

ht off significantly descreases temps, which author doesn't said about

[@Sn4p_Fps]

Temps are the same in some games less in some games higher , nothing to worry about but the % whit ht off is a lot higher

[@theh0lybible]

Can run it in an average test environment with perhaps a discord call open, a few launchers loaded, and various other background apps that generally eat up CPU power. Many people utilize multiple monitors and have some kind of youtube/netflix streaming also.

[@Frozoken]

I think i noticed this same general trend on my 13600k with HT disabled in vall too. Averages onky saw marginal gains if any but in gunfights i saw my fps was dropping down a good amount less.

[@astralcomet1]

I have the exact same ram kit and a new 14900k. Can you tell me the specific Ram timings you are using? I plan on taking the heat spreaders off and putting a fan over them to cool them 👍🏽 Mobo is the msi z790 pro a btw

[@astralcomet1]

I also plan on disabling the e cores as I mainly play valorant and cs and want the max latency reduction that’s stable. For Ram stock Xmp I’m at ab 56ns aiming for ~35ns

[@Frozoken]

@@astralcomet1 Dont disable ecores for valorant ive tested it, they slightly help and for CS they actually help quite a lot. If u really want low latency with the ecores disable all but 1 from each cluster of 4. Ecores only have a latency penalty when talking to each other in the same cluster and not only that, with only 1 activated per cluster ur getting near 3dvcache levels of cache per core so theyll almost definitley be significantly more performant for gaming.

[@leandrodrace]

Nicely done, you just forgot to mention lower temperature and power consuption when HT is off. I`ve been using HT/SMT off for years now just for that temp difference and slightly lower Vcore required in order to run my CPUs 100 to 200 MHz higher... had a 4930k before and now R9 5900X both very different but gave me the same headroom for overclock when doing this trick...

[@pamus6242]

WOW! So simple yet so practical.

[@dakrawnik4208]

lol try UV'ing instead to lower power draw. you're welcome.

[@jakedill1304]

That's strange I was able to get a 4930k to a very stable 4.4 just by increasing the multiplier a little bit.. and it never really needs it except for spikes.. and this is with hyper threading on and a cooler that was about 30 bucks when I bought it in 2013... And I haven't pasted it since 2013 LOL. And I thought I lost the silicone lottery cuz I couldn't hit 4.6...

[@Kryptic1046]

@@dakrawnik4208 - If you're overclocking a CPU, it requires whatever voltage it requires to be stable at that frequency. Turning HT off means the CPU requires less voltage to be stable at the same frequencies. Undervolting is really only a thing if you're running at a stock configuration. Once you overclock past a certain point, you will almost always need more voltage to run stable, not less, so I'm a bit confused as to why you would tell someone to undervolt an overclock. That's usually a recipe for instability.

[@leandrodrace]

@dakrawnik4208 well considering when stock it hits past 1.5 vcore I'm already on underlvolt with 1.337 vcore for 4950 on the best ccd and 4750 on the worse ccd. If I had SMT on that static 4950 MHz would be impossible. But on the old i7 extreme I needed 1.44 vcore to run 4.8GHz, like the other guy said after you past a point on the V/F curve it's not possible to undervolt...

[@teskript4605]

nice test, can you compare only p cores with ht on + p cores only ht off against this aswell?

[@briananeuraysem3321]

Would be interested to see how this might apply on an older quadcore

[@viktorglibka2976]

It would be great to show the cpu usage in the windows task manager additionally to the fps values in each game. From my perspective as a system integrator hyperthreading increases performance, when windows deals with more threads than virtual cores present; and sometimes decreases performance, when less threads than virtual cores present, especially in virtualization and database applications.

[@JusH25]

Does hyperthreading off affect productivity tasks?

[@greycell2442]

Great vid. This is good for anybody, not just gamers. Linux users learn about io scheduler. Given the fact the OS uses a single kernel instruction queue, I'm suggesting mostly smoke and mirrors for Windows users, and the game is gonna load the gpu with work. You could make gain simply by disabling as many services as possible, freeing up the kernel stack.

[@Isaiahchannel]

Will this work at higher resolutions at all? 1440p? 4K? I know 4K is more GPU bound.

[@saijyo8549]

I think most impact on 1080p, and CPU heavy load app. 4k and 1440p even lower and higher CPU just eror margin 1-5fps.

[@randomsaloom7238]

now we need a comparison between these results and having e-cores disabled

[@shanent5793]

How can Remnant 2's .01 lows be higher than the average?

[@ching8733]

Probably other way around 😅

[@MiriadCalibrumAstar]

good video but it does lack descriptive settings used in the games. Making sure that the settings are more leveled towards a CPU bottleneck(aka dont go ultra in the settings)

[@PAIN-ot4cj]

Danny can you so one like his on the 14900k or 13900k with rebar on vs off

[@khaledalhamdan2627]

thank you for really the good video, and it is good that you included World of Tanks in the test as it is CPU heavy game.

[@StroggKingu]

I wonder how it would behave in Cyberpunk as recent patch added SMT option to set.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

In Escape from Tarkov there's an option that's on by default that also only uses the physical cores. Quite incredible how games are now super CPU heavy but can't efficiently use the virtual cores.

[@Frozoken]

Tbf theyre not all created equally. AMD's implimentation is SIGNIFICANTLY better than Intel's in both performance and power efficiency. In fact it's essentially confirmed that Intel's upcoming arrowlake will ditch it from then on while AMD's rumoured to try 4 way hyper threading although thats less certain. Either way it makes sense as hyperthreading makes scheduling so much more complex when there's ecores and amd doesnt have to worry about that

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

@@Frozoken seems like Intel is a bit of a mess

[@Kyori0]

@@Frozoken one guy on reddit told: "The reason that SMT "works better" (i.e. gives a greater performance uplift) on Ryzen than on Intel's chips is because Intel's CPU front-end hardware is superior, and so there's less empty space in the core's execution engine for the second thread to take up."

[@ronniearnold10]

The virtual cores are not as 'powerful' as the actual cores, though...

[@Frozoken]

@@ronniearnold10 True even ecores are significantly faster than a hyper thread

[@teddym2808]

I find your choice of 1080P very strange. Sure, I guess you were thinking that makes the games more cpu limited, but that's when HT might actually MAKE sense or at least not get in the way. My experience shows that HT off gives improvement in extreme GPU load high res gaming, for example I went from 86 in RE4 remake to 95 average, and to me, that's big. 13980HX with P cores @ 5.3ghz here and a 4090m.

[@JeremyRoche]

Great video but one huge point you missed is that the CPU runs a lot cooler with HT off.

[@voltex9885]

Same goes for 5800x but iam honestly unsure whats the difference bu my system with disabled smd has way less latency spikes and generaly interrupt to process latency is almost half lower so what i found out is that i can deffinitly hit more shots almost 30%more in apex legends (if i remember correctly 27.8) without smt. Fps seems same but i didnt propperly test it. Iam unsure if same goes for hypertreading but my friend has simmulare results with disabled smt. Thanks for amazing videos!

[@jefsonb]

What about power and temperature? I tested in my system (i9 9900k) and had smaller values…

[@user-zn8qd8vj1o]

can you try this with helldivers 2 ?

[@deaddeyedante]

Great video.

[@mikekangaroo1124]

I run msfs 2020 with a 4090 and a 10900k , I run with hyperthreading disabled as it did improve frame rate and having 10 full cores is more than enough

[@wawaweewa9159]

Noice, i wonder what getting rid of hyper threading, now that we have plenty of cores available in cpus will do to die size and complexity of design

[@FreshJ1v3]

HT of or off for New World? Any help please and ty. Azoth Engine is strange!!

[@leandrodrace]

if u have 8 cores or more yes.

[@echickentiken9200]

How mini core off?

[@wjjohns04able]

I’m not sure it all just about fps. Some games I play run a lot smoother. Maybe it’s got more to do with game integration and how it’s coded? 5fps one way or another doesn’t matter much to me, but in fps if it’s not smooth that’s a big problem.

[@Shuttterbugg]

Good video! Alot of pwoole don't know to get.max wprformabce u can set up your bios to turn off ecores by click of a button like scrlck

[@AleksCoreBY]

But disabling E-cores doesn't improve performance. There's actually no reason to disable it unless you have very bad cooling

[@Cevap05]

My question here is the temperature difference with HT on/off. Anyone notice improvement with it off that’s worth keeping it off?

[@mizrachayit]

its cooler with HT off. My 14700K never touch 100° with unlock power limit. But if HT on, it easily hit 100°

[@Cevap05]

@@mizrachayit Yea I had the same observation with 12900K and HT off. And tbh with it off my gaming FPS was basically the same for most titles.

[@gvido2923]

yes HT off is like 10C-15C less instantly im using 14900k managed to get 5600mhz and 4400mh under 70C on cinebench and around 55C while gaming

[@SkyBeyondSkyVM]

on 13:00 what game you playing?

[@DannyzReviews]

Baldurs gate 3

[@SkyBeyondSkyVM]

i see Thank You

[@lexsanderz]

Sorry but the whole point of disabling E cores and HTT is to push the clocks on the P cores harder. If you running a fixed frequency you are even gimping the stock behavior. 2 cores hitting 6ghz now and then is better than all cores locked to 5ghz. Use TVB to lock push 5.9ghz on all cores.

[@user-gl5sl3bs9f]

You testing starfield/ remnant/ ratchet&clank with 100% gpu usage. What difference in cpu performance you what to found

[@tomtomkowski7653]

What about the power consumption and temperatures? It should be much better.

[@Frozoken]

I have an overclocked 13600k and under full load it went from about 240w to 200w with hyperthreading off. Gaming was like 10w difference tho.

[@MrChefft]

For CS2 use -threads 9 on launch options with that cpu im using -threads 7 with a R5 7600 and have nearly 30% gains on low's and average, insane

[@Seu_Lunga]

Do you have this amount of games tested for v3 or v4 Xeon popular x99 platform?

[@FilippoCarrux]

First of all I want to thank you for your really interesting content. I've been looking around on this topic for months now and I want to share with you my experience since I don't have the possibility to afford a setup like yours. I think the 13900k is totally overkill for 1080p today so maybe you can't see so much difference because in both case the cpu is sleeping. If you have a car with 1000 hp and another one with 500hp both of the car are fine for going to the shop and buy vegetables ;) Maybe you should have tested 4k low as the 4090 could render easy lots of fps in both res but the cpu had to render double the image size at least than the 1080p or 2k. It could be interesting doing the same test with an 9900k or 10700k that are older cpu that are starting to fight in 1080p/2k competitive games that are cpu bound, with a 4090 to ensure there is no gpu bottleneck. Also, they don't have the P/E cores architeture so we can investigate if there could be a benefit also for old high core count CPUs. What I've notice in my research is that the single core speed is more important that the number of cores. If you have 12 core at 4.0ghz vs 6/8 core at 4.5/4.7, the higher clock speed do more fps in cpu bound games. Also, you don't have taken the cpu+gpu render latency that is a really handy parameter for competitive players. For example, you can play cs at 240fps, but if you have 10/15ms of latency, is a lot better playing at 180fps but with 3/4 ms. Disabling HT lower this parameter so much, so always with competitive game in mind it would have been very curious to observe how this parameter changed in this two scenarios. Finally, disabling HT you gain heat and power usage, so, with gaming and performance in mind you will have more room to overclocking. you could do this test 13900K stock -> power draw 300W 13900k HT disable -> power draw 230W (could be more) 13900 HT disable + Overclock until you reach the 300W power draw (the same as stock) With the last option, you should gain 200/300mhz on the P core and see all the benefit of disable HT. Hoping to have provided further points for reflection, thank you again for the content.

[@teddym2808]

Also, disable core parking with the free park control app. Takes 2 seconds.

[@mannyc19]

This holds true for Intel, not so much for AMD Chips like my 3600x and 7800X3D systems/

[@nivea878]

i encountered much less stutters whendisabling HT (14700K)

[@Remortality-]

My cooler is not the best so I can run my 13600k with hypertreading on 5.5 pcore 4.3 ecore and 5ghz ring ratio without thermal throttle but when I disable hyper threading I can run 5.8 pcore 4.4 ecore and 5ghz ring ratio without thermal throttle not sure what I should run since I mainly use my pc for gaming

[@gvido2923]

less temperature and higher frequency is way to go and 15th gen cpus wont have HT anymore

[@kevinmccrea1335]

I personally think this is going to be the future of CPU's if they're adding all these extra cores..

[@impuls60]

Heat consentration looks to be a huge problem as we go smaller. The new rentable cores leak from Intel seems to support this.

[@shanent5793]

The future is fewer cores and more threads. Intel is just going to change the names and pretend that a thread is a core

[@shawnarwood]

​@@shanent5793you mean bulldozer

[@shanent5793]

@@shawnarwood kinda but hyperthreading can use all of the units on a single thread. Bulldozer had two integer cores that couldn't both be processing the same thread

[@jakedill1304]

Actually the future is.. different.. Intel is reworking how they do hyperthreading as a concept and basically getting rid of it in the form that you know of and we know of now.. it's actually kind of the most exciting thing that Intel's done in a while, but won't probably see the light of day for another year or two.. maybe even longer for consumers.. but it is cool and makes a lot of sense.

[@VnikXum]

6:23 There is mistake - 1% cannot exceed AVG FPS.

[@toonnut1]

The video would be better with the E core's shown on and off.

[@Ross-fo2vw]

Anyone test this with World of Warcraft? I am curious because that game is notorious for 1% lows bogging down an experience when in a raid or world boss with 30-40 players casting a million spells. thanks

[@vladislavkaras491]

I wonder how performance can be different, if we have some tasks in background, like Discord, browser activity, downloading something and so on. Would the performance difference be bigger than what we saw in the pure game benchmark? Also, would be cool to see the same test on AMD platform! Thanks for the video!

[@Frozoken]

Doubt it seeing u have ecores to handle that. Thats part of it ecores made HT useless and HT also makes scheduling thereads when theres also ecores wayyyy more complex

[@AshtonCoolman]

Do the same with AMD's 7950X or X3D

[@oskarteran3365]

but in core i3 12100?

[@Darksh1n]

You dont even need to go into the Bios to turn off Hyperthreading you can do it in a program called Process Lasso depending on what game you play.

[@H0tCh0c0-gr3qe]

nah

[@MrAyybee2cold]

You do it thru bios because process lasso will be detected by easy cheat in multiplayer games.

[@doctorsatan4260]

Currently only 3 minutes in video: hope this will answer... On a traditional cpu like i5 12400 is 6c12t always better with it left on, especially with browsers, medal capture, steam, game, discord all open while gaming with in game voip, and discord running.

[@IPowder4105]

I think you should try on 13100 to se the difference because that's when cpu will be used a lot more

[@blindman8093]

csn you try it on warzone 3

[@FireJamUSA]

I'm running a 13700k / 4090 and turning off HT made Hogwarts run smoother. Thanks for this video :)

[@michaelthompson9798]

I can only assume that having HT off (in some titles, and certain game engines) getting better fps as a result of power budgets being redirected into better performance of the P-cores and giving them better higher boosting clocks = higher fps.

[@Frozoken]

Could also be from songle ecores from each cluster taking some load that hyperthreading would have because not only is an ecore much more performant than a hyperthread but theres also only a core to core latency penalty between ecores in the same cluster. The cluster of 4 all have to also share l2 bandwidth so ipc is significantly higher when loading up different clusters first and the scheduler does do this thankfully. I also tested this in a gamewith process lasso and found that two ecores of different clusters were significantly more smooth than one pcore at 5.8ghz with the ecores being at 4.5ghz. Usually its meant to be like 2.5-3ish ecores = to one p core especially in something like faming but just 2 were still noticeable ahead when using different clusters and as i saod, much less core to core latency penalty like that too

[@zodwraith5745]

I didn't even need to watch the video to know the outcome. Hyperthreading is one of the most misunderstood technologies in the hardware space today. While it was very beneficial when we were on 1-4 cores it's given diminishing returns since then, and is pretty much obsolete today where 8 cores are standard. Especially when E cores perform many of the tasks that made HT most beneficial in the first place. It's no wonder Intel is dropping it in future generations. In today's CPUs where the biggest hurdle is fighting the laws of physics any way you can shorten that pipeline should theoretically be beneficial. This has me interested in what Arrow Lake will bring.

[@jessefisher1809]

I thought I heard intel is getting rid of hyperthreading going forward, something about it getting in the way of future development.

[@shanent5793]

They're gonna call threads cores and pretend that HT doesn't exist, just like it's 1984

[@Frozoken]

@@shanent5793 No it's literally just going to be disabled lmao

[@TheGamingSKITZ]

Not the video i was hoping for. If i wanted to look at grahs id go to a site. I was hoping for a side by side comparison like alot of people do

[@nasunabi]

i have i9 10 something something , i turned off HT and instantly gained 30 fps in COD warzone

[@rluker5344]

I've noticed significantly higher stable P core clocks with HT disabled on Raptor Lake. My 13900kf with a D15 and Asus Prime P is only stable at 5.5 Ghz all P core in games with HT on, but 5.8 Ghz all P core with HT off. My 13600k goes from 5.5 to 5.7 Ghz all P core stable with turning HT off. Although the 13600k also probably gets less benefit from turning HT off due to having fewer threads. It's worth checking out if you have a Raptor Lake chip.

[@dn7783]

Can you test it with fixed clocking

[@riki-s]

Far cry 1-5, dota.... loves ht off

[@dighekonesijbeg5498]

Age of Empires IV? Pretty please?

[@MikkoHiiri]

Intel says that 14th series is up to 16% faster in metro exodus than 13rh due to optimization. Does 14th run it automatically without E-cores? 🤭😅

[@takchuewong5144]

it's not about performance or speed. All games just crash when HT is enabled on 13900k. Devs aren't going to study on this old school tech and just told us to disable the e-cores.

[@Randalsgaming]

Hyperthreading just adds to pc latency , I was running apex at 210-240 fps with it on with a i7-11700k and a 3070, after turning hyperthreading off I get a solid 240. I know the i7-11700k is a bottle neck for the 3070.

[@jeffreybouman2110]

I had a 9700K Switched it for a 9900K Lesson: no performance difference at all Only in 3DMARK tests the different was big but in real gamjng it was the same or the 1% lows where a bit worse

[@quademasters249]

These days I only look at single core performance. If single core performance isn't significantly higher, you probably can't feel any difference.

[@jeffreybouman2110]

@@quademasters249 amen 🙏🏻

[@LuXoR1590]

Cpu is cooler when ht is off

[@Lunnyx]

For the new intel gen, the best thing to do, is to disable E-core when gaming, by doing this i improve my average fps and 1% low by 15%.

[@yoked391]

Cs2 250 - 300% difference from 1% lows to average fps is nuts 😂😂 dumpster fire, i can see why it feels like crap

[@user-tc4tz8ww1z]

This is missing average temps.... sadly

[@MsTatakai]

I tested on my 4770k and NO... way slower ehehe XD

[@club4ghz]

You need at least 12th gen intel 6 cores or a high core count older cpu to disable HT in 2024

[@DualPerformance]

Yeah sure, but try with an I7 2600K and you will only get more FPS with HT On in 99% of the games released in 2022 - 2023

[@Waldherz]

This video is about MODERN hybrid intel CPUs. Not 10+ year old CPUs.

[@jakedill1304]

Right but you're more likely to see benefits from turning hyperthreading off on older hardware if it can manage the basics... Applying this only to modern current or just well as of a day ago recent generation high-end Intel consumer CPUs is kind of a waste in general as that's such a minor use case.. and as far as hybrid CPUs go.. the premise wasn't it's hybrid nature that was the problem so much as it was whether or not the hyperthreading mattered in the performance cores... Not that it matters, given this person was pointing out that there's a point in the architecture history where the scale goes the other way... Which is supplemental, not contradicting.@@Waldherz

[@Waldherz]

Well, about the Hybrid architecture. People started asking if you could disable HT (in previous videos on this channel) since the total thread count is so high to begin with. I personally dont get why I would buy a modern high thread count CPU to then disable some threads. Just get a lower tier CPU instead.@@jakedill1304

[@jakedill1304]

LOL older game engines that rely on single threaded performance.. like unreal engine 5.. oh wait excuse me the script reads unlike unreal engine 5.. can someone tell the CPU that please? No? Well.. oh well I guess...

[@YourPalHDee]

Well yeah it's pointless on a 13900k 😂 its totally valid on any i5 equivalent. What a silly video.