I’ve been asking this question for a while and FINALLY someone explained it well enough for me. Jazak Allah khayran Sheikh ❤️🙏🏾
@trueindian225 ай бұрын
how this guy make such a story! who naratted this version of islam to sabir ali, he never provides any refernece. The statement he said is early age of ismam/quran, when mohammad was not in power. But actual harse or cruel verses came when mohammad was in power.
@learningis7857 Жыл бұрын
And yet there’s 13 Islamic countries which apostasy is punishable by death 😂😂😂😂, how do you explain that
@MeemKhaMeemDhal--khaYaRaWawNun Жыл бұрын
And yet Saudi and west still super friendly with each other due to oil ?
@learningis7857 Жыл бұрын
@@MeemKhaMeemDhal--khaYaRaWawNun what’s your point ?
@hakeemdisu71682 жыл бұрын
Any tradition that contradicts clear injunction from the Quran should be discarded. Thank you sheik.
@skyfall71552 жыл бұрын
Nonmuslims should definitely reject Islamic books in return & take notice of the behavior of Muslims
@mamadoufarissou73122 жыл бұрын
True, that was postulated by alkhatib albaghdadi one of the huge scholars of hadith in the 4 th century hijri. He said that a singularly transmitted tradition (in contrast with mutawatir) is rejected with some reasons one of them if it reject the ckear unumbiguous quranic discourse.
@soulmate54432 жыл бұрын
THIS Man will spend more energy on Christians than spend spending more energy on Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Malaysia, Sudan , Iran , Indonesia etc where Apostates are being killed everyday for the sake of Allah, he will never go to them and campaign about killing of Apostates. This man is not sincere with truth, this surah is talking about two different communities, and the other community led astray by Allah should be killed whenever they are found surah 4 : 88-89. 88) So, what is it with you that you are two communities regarding the hypocrites, and Allah has cast them back for what they earned? Would you (like) to guide him whom Allah has led into error? And whomever Allah leads into error, then you will never find for him a way. 89) They would like you to disbelieve as they have disbelieved; then you would be equal. So do not take for yourselves patrons from them until they emigrate in the way of Allah. Yet in case they turn away, then take them and kill them where you find them; and do not take to yourselves from among them a constant patron or a ready vindicator. - Dr. Ghali
@squarecircle2347 Жыл бұрын
But how do you discard it if it's an authentic hadith? Doesn't that mean you have a direct contradiction that you have to somehow resolve? You can't just resolve it by ignoring on part. Also, it doesn't really make sense for it to be a contradiction anyway because for the punishment for apostasy to be considered compulsion, it must mean that fear of being put to death will prevent you from losing your belief that Islam is true, and that's just not how that works.
@naturegirl48032 жыл бұрын
Respected Shabir Aly, you rightly pointed out that the muslims predominantly overweighed the hadith or narrative of fiqh over the book of God, Quran and that's created problems more to muslims themselves and non muslims too to ratify the tenenth of Islam. Moreover, Islam is an idealogy to be taken with due conviction of one's own rational and cogent understanding. Anyone not agreed on Islamic precepts can leave faith lovingly.
@HamidA-to8vy2 жыл бұрын
The problem is that people have preconceived opinions on various issues and they research religion selectively to prove their opinions. That is why we find the opinion of religion changes according to the social, political and cultural system
@davidcharlton55522 жыл бұрын
Sunan an-Nasa'i 4061- "The Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'" Grade: Sahih
@HamidA-to8vy2 жыл бұрын
@@davidcharlton5552 The Islam was gone through difficult times and Muslims are commanded to defend Muslims. If you want I can quote for you many Quranic verses and hadiths of the Prophet in the context of war, so you can write them in your comments every where on social media. If you don't like that about Islam, sorry to say that is your own problem. Qur’an says, "whoever wants, let him believe, and whoever wants, let him disbelieve". Also, Muslims have developed methodologies for extracting rulings from the Qur’an and Sunnah which difficult for you to comprehend. Furthermore, if you want to judge the history of Muslims and the Muslims' states, yes there were bad things that cannot be justified, but in general they had not reached the level of the badness of the Inquisition and the heresy carried out by the Church in Spain. All that has been said, Freedom of religion is well established in Quran
@naturegirl48032 жыл бұрын
@@davidcharlton5552 don't believe in what comforts you. All hadith and narratives which stand against Qur'an is wrong. Only divine book is Qur'an. All other written by humans.
@perniciousseizurehellio34382 жыл бұрын
@@davidcharlton5552 the quran always supersedes hadiths
@tarekh02 жыл бұрын
Great elaboration on this, thanks Dr. Shabir!
@nizaradnan289711 ай бұрын
I heard a non-Muslim take issue with this. I was bothered looking for the answer. I saw Dr Zakir Naik's answer, but I think the views in this video are better. thank you for the answer
@Mrman-vi2ul2 жыл бұрын
This was considered high treason at the time, since people would fake being a Muslim and then publicly reject it to try to deter others from embracing Islam and then go in to join the enemy side with the secrets. And for treason it’s death. This ruling has nothing to do with ones individual faith journey, whether they leave Islam or become whatever religion
@davidcharlton55522 жыл бұрын
Sunan an-Nasa'i 4061- "The Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'" Grade: Sahih
@Crazy882772 жыл бұрын
Thank you and I appreciate what you liberal Muslims are doing but as the commenter above me posted. Their is clear incontrovertible evidence that apostasy is punishable by death. You guys have to do too much gymnastics to prove otherwise. The fundamentalist are right on this one.
@Crazy882772 жыл бұрын
I mean if that was the case then how come there isn’t a single Hadith with that explanation. Liberal Muslims always have to use their imagination to change the interpretation. I applaud them for the effort to make Islam more palatable to the western world.
@tingnannatinnangmalaman94542 жыл бұрын
@@davidcharlton5552 it was written in arabic, check the translation. a hadith cannot be more authoritative over the quran. quran clearly explain there is no compulsion in religion. while hadith reports can be genuine or fake.
@antibioticantibiotic5386 Жыл бұрын
@@davidcharlton5552 If you give this hadith literall meaning well that means the man who changed Christianity to Judaism should also be killed. Because it is saying that who changed his religion not who changes Islam to other religion. But nobody gives that literal meaning to hadith. Which means you also give an interpretation
@salmi82982 жыл бұрын
Thank you Brother Shabir Ally for all that Jtihad and your explanation about Islam may Allah reward your good deed with paradise🤲
@Simarodra2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr. Shabir, this is also how I understand it from our local scholar ... unfortunately the misunderstood teaching is more popular ...
@davidcharlton55522 жыл бұрын
Sunan an-Nasa'i 4061- "The Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'" Grade: Sahih
@Simarodra2 жыл бұрын
I believe Dr. Shabir mentioned about this hadith already in his explanation ... There was e.g. Ubaidillah ibn Jahsh who embraced Christianity post hijra and he was allowed to live peacefully.
@davidcharlton55522 жыл бұрын
@@Simarodra one example doesn't negate the word of Muhammad does it?
@Simarodra2 жыл бұрын
@@davidcharlton5552 there are other names and some unnamed persons from sahih hadith and athar, but of course, if you have decided that they must be killed (despite Dr. Shabir explanation of your quoted hadith), then I leave you in peace with your decision 🙂
@saniatamanna77632 жыл бұрын
@@Simarodra yeah
@Hamza000h2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation Dr Shabir. There are many scholars both past and present who disagree with the apostasy law.
@Hello-vz1md2 жыл бұрын
Like ?
@capnanaya46422 жыл бұрын
All 4 Sunni madhab, maliki hanbali etc agree on it and have extensive narratives to justify that. Perhaps you are referring to contemporary scholars? Even during the ottoman empire it was implemented.
@soulmate54432 жыл бұрын
They disagree with Apostate law and will spend more energy on Christians than spend spending more energy on Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Malaysia, Sudan , Iran , Indonesia etc where Apostates are being killed everyday for the sake of Allah, he will never go to them and campaign about killing of Apostates. This man is not sincere with truth, this surah is talking about two different communities, and the other community led astray by Allah should be killed whenever they are found surah 4 : 88-89. 88) So, what is it with you that you are two communities regarding the hypocrites, and Allah has cast them back for what they earned? Would you (like) to guide him whom Allah has led into error? And whomever Allah leads into error, then you will never find for him a way. 89) They would like you to disbelieve as they have disbelieved; then you would be equal. So do not take for yourselves patrons from them until they emigrate in the way of Allah. Yet in case they turn away, then take them and kill them where you find them; and do not take to yourselves from among them a constant patron or a ready vindicator. - Dr. Ghali
@Chandransingham2 жыл бұрын
This is very helpful. Surah 2:256 stands out. The Study Quran's new translation of the Quran states "There is no coercion in religion". It states further "Sound judgment has become clear from error". I think what this means who ever has sound knowledge of the scriptures - both Bible and the Quran wins the day. Right?
@sabriwasalah2 жыл бұрын
The Qur’an supersedes what came before it.
@sabriwasalah2 жыл бұрын
Al Ma’idah 48: “And We revealed to you the Book, with truth, confirming the Scripture that preceded it, and superseding it. So judge between them according to what Allah revealed, and do not follow their desires--“
@Chandransingham2 жыл бұрын
@@sabriwasalah Not a good commentary. See my note below on you next comment.
@Chandransingham2 жыл бұрын
@@sabriwasalah The translation in The Study Quran (HarperOne 2017) gives a different understanding to yours. Here is the Surah 5:48 " And We have sent down unto thee the Book in truth, confirming the Book that came before it, and as a protector over it. So judge between them in accordance with what God has set down, and follow not their caprices away from the truth that has come unto thee. .......................................... ". I am finding The Study Quran - once reviewed by Shabir Ally very helpful.
@sabriwasalah2 жыл бұрын
@@Chandransingham here are a few more translations: “We have revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ this Book with the truth, as a confirmation of previous Scriptures and a supreme authority on them. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their desires over the truth that has come to you. To each of you We have ordained a code of law and a way of life. If Allah had willed, He would have made you one community, but His Will is to test you with what He has given ˹each of˺ you. So compete with one another in doing good. To Allah you will all return, then He will inform you ˹of the truth˺ regarding your differences.” - Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran
@joshuaallen71712 жыл бұрын
I recall hearing or reading somewhere that, for those who believed that apostates should be killed, the definition of apostate could be narrowed to make it hard to prove anyone's guilt in any case. Much in the same way that punishment for adultery required such a level of evidence that it was almost impossible to find someone guilty of that. However, whether people are punished for apostasy or not, I'd say the threat of punishment for merely having doubts or divergent beliefs is not good for a society. It will simply drive out the truth and make many people hypocrites.
@DBUification2 жыл бұрын
I believe (based on the available Hadith) that the term “apostate” was defined as someone who betrayed the Muslims, waged war on Allah and the prophet, and also left Islam.
@n_aminotme2 жыл бұрын
@@DBUification yea, same
@lykkemarieofficial2 жыл бұрын
regardless of how we choose to define 'apostate'', the fact is that this verse was revealed when said ''apostates'' waged war on Muslims, and this allowed Muslims to fight back. It was never about innocent, civilians and whether or not they sin in privacy or in public or how they sin.
@SherKhan-ig1gs2 жыл бұрын
Grateful to you, Dr. Shabbir, for abundant clarification reg a long held ambiguity 🙏 thanks a lot جزاک اللّہ 💐
@trueindian225 ай бұрын
how this guy make such a story! who naratted this version of islam to sabir ali, he never provides any refernece. The statement he said is early age of ismam/quran, when mohammad was not in power. But actual harse or cruel verses came when mohammad was in power.
@nodiahmed12 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watering down islam for people who find it difficult to follow in toto...
@jr34232 жыл бұрын
Very well explianed, majority of Muslim don't study or do their research and it's very easy to get mislead, May Allah bless both of you and your team. Thank you for your great work 👍 👏
@davidcharlton55522 жыл бұрын
Sunan an-Nasa'i 4061- "The Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'" Grade: Sahih
@mazharkhan23102 жыл бұрын
@@davidcharlton5552 bruh have you seen the video
@iniminimaynimo Жыл бұрын
@@mazharkhan2310 I don't think so.
@markdoughty87802 жыл бұрын
A well-rounded explanation of the much misunderstood Islamic ruling on apostasy - very educational for Muslims and non-Muslims alike; thanks.
@davidcharlton55522 жыл бұрын
Sunan an-Nasa'i 4061- "The Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'" Grade: Sahih
@dom30732 жыл бұрын
Major scholars such as Nakhai, Al-Baji, Sarakshi, Sha'rani, Sufyan at Thawri, ibn Qayyim al Jawziyya opposed the k__illing of apostates.
@heruherdi_an2 жыл бұрын
The references brother? I want to read them
@markward39812 жыл бұрын
I am not sure about Ibn Al Qayyim but the others did hold various opinions on the punishment of the murtad (apostate) .
@ITSTIME_FORYOU_TOWALK_THEPLANK2 жыл бұрын
Thank You for Accepting that it’s our choice to leave Islam I love You Sheikh !!!
@asif9822 жыл бұрын
Yh it's your choice n quran forbids to kill kafirs unless they attack them and allah says in quran to treat justly with kafirs those who don't harm muslims (to treat them as they treat u) but if u become non Muslim or follow something which contradicts with old testament or veda than Allah will drag u to hell n punish in judgement day!
@ITSTIME_FORYOU_TOWALK_THEPLANK2 жыл бұрын
@@asif982 Allah Doesn’t Exist stop believing in a Pedophiles dream of 72 8 year old virgins Islam does not Exist in the Real World! If Allah was Real Do You really think I would defy him? Even if he is a Cruel Tyrant I would’ve Obeyed his Vile Creepy whims
@shivammore95022 жыл бұрын
@@asif982 there's no god no jahannam no judgement day nothing happens
@asif9822 жыл бұрын
@@shivammore9502 thats in peoples perception not in reality. Reality and truth is different from perception. In semestic religion through prophets there is 100 % proof of god and judgment day. Infront of 3 semestic religion WITH proof, one non semestic religion is nothing where people live in perception and philosophy. One must ask deeply to oneself how he came in existence and why things are systematic.
@shivammore95022 жыл бұрын
@@asif982 😂 science is backed by citations calculated proofs unlike random statements of any prophet or god . There's no proof science has given lot more to humanity than combine all religions . Nowadays religions want themselves to be associated with science 😂 that's shows all .
@rogermetzger73352 жыл бұрын
I don’t read Arabic so the nearest I’ve come to “reading” the Qur’an is to read an English paraphrase. (The Meaning of the Holy Qur’an by ‘Abdullah Yusuf ‘Ali) By the time I finished reading it, it occurred to me that reading it “backward” - the Conclusion first, then Surah 114, 113, 112, etc. would give a person a quite different impression of Islam than reading it the way I did, beginning with Surah 1, then 2, then 3, etc. The same seems to be true of the way people read the Bible. Hebrews may “start at the beginning”, i.e. read Genesis first, then Exodus, etc. Most Hebrews probably don’t ever read the Gospels and the Epistles. People who aren’t Hebrew and who read Genesis first and then Exodus often fail to finish reading Exodus, let alone the next several books. People who read the Gospels first, and then the Epistles, often fail to read the rest of the Bible. Reading the books of Moses and not the Gospels would almost certainly give a person a very different view of the Bible and biblical religions than reading the Gospels but not the first books of the Bible. So my question is this: Are there schools of thought within Islam that emphasize some parts of the Qur’an more than others? Are there other schools of thought that emphasize other parts instead? If so, what can you tell us about the history of how those differing schools of thought developed? Or when? Or Where?
@goaltin Жыл бұрын
The Quran is shorter and more precise than other books, and the whole Quran is important (WORDS FROM GOD)
@humayungul21206 ай бұрын
It was the sedition that is culpable. During Tabuk, when people would tell prophet that so and so had returned, he would say those people were of no benefit to the community and that if Allah wanted they would come back to join the contingent.
@MrNikkiNoo3 ай бұрын
"Prevailing Hanafi jurisprudence, per consensus of its school of Islamic scholars, prescribes death penalty for the crime of apostasy." The death penalty is widespread in the Middle East and parts of Africa. So where are we now with this?
@LITTLEMUSTANGFILLY2 жыл бұрын
This was helpful
@NedimTabakovic2 жыл бұрын
As soon as hadiths abrogate Qur'an we have problem. Even I found opinion on Qur'an abrogation of the Qur'an is our misunderstanding of the revelation...
@Astaqfirullah92 жыл бұрын
Hadith can't abrogates Quran. Hadith is fabricated if it's against Quran.
@NedimTabakovic2 жыл бұрын
@@Astaqfirullah9 I don't think all hadiths are fabricated. But some, even though are rated authentic, are obviously against Qur'an and resulullah saws...
@thenasir1219382 жыл бұрын
@@NedimTabakovic Hadiths cannot abrogate the Qur'an; the Apostle cannot abrogate God.
@davidcharlton55522 жыл бұрын
Sunan an-Nasa'i 4061- "The Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'" Grade: Sahih
@NedimTabakovic2 жыл бұрын
@@davidcharlton5552 See that is problematic...
@afanbaig71732 жыл бұрын
Very sensible and positive approach
@Saika99510 ай бұрын
I am so grateful for this video which has made my faith stronger
@abdulgany3932 жыл бұрын
Very well explain. May the Almighty Allah bless you and your family always with Good health and long life. Aamiin Aamiin Aamiin Ya Rabbal Aalamiin. Jazak Allahu Khayran
@kennethmoore-cq7bj2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very informative and concise.
@streetkredtinople16782 жыл бұрын
Like always love and enjoy your analysis Dr
@peter-jameswilliams9239 Жыл бұрын
One thing one problem I have with Islamic Scholars is that very often it appeared to lie all the time I can't hear a scholar who doesn't appear to be misleading .
@minizeref62452 жыл бұрын
Hello i hope you and your whole family is healthy both mentally and physically and hope you continue to make more videos its kinda embarrassing to share but i was feeling down to the point where i started bleeding and spends time while crying as my heart was hurting badly it was getting harder to breath it all unable to eat just lay down all day and night it all happened after i heard from a stranger that they left Islam and became atheist i don't know why it bothered me that much that it ends up putting in this situation and activated my UC problem (bleeding as mentioned above) i am not a great a Muslim myself either as i don't pray and do lots of sins(not the one that harms others) so why it's happening to me i don't even know these people so can you please make a video on how to claim down hearts and i stayed down almost everyday but after hearing this put me down to my lowest now i am even scared of getting happy because i heard this news when i was happy and suddenly the happiness turned into sadness i don't know why whenever i gets even i tiny bit happy i had to pay back with seeing myself feeling down for days
@MASSAM96692 жыл бұрын
Bad health can cause all sorts of issues, make sure you are doing what you can to fix it.
@minizeref62452 жыл бұрын
@@MASSAM9669 hey I hope you healthy both mentally and physically tbh i don't think i am things just seems to getting worse for me mood wings like crazy a moment i am thinking about something other moment thinking something else question every little things that doesn't make sense and when i get the answer then questioning those answers so on and so on getting angry for no reason getting annoyed alot like i don't know how to explain even the the little things triggered to become angry and feel annoyed a moment i am crying and another moment i am laughing for no reasons
@IMHS212 жыл бұрын
brother, never give up. Read and watch quran videos and try to understand it. There is great wisdom in it. Furthermore, I would recommend to go outside for a walk and fresh air, and to exercise if possible. You will feel better. Never give up, ask Allah for help. And dont forget that this life is a test. For every struggle you will overcome patiently you will have a reward. Try to give charity it will boost your morale as well. Try to replace your sins for good things, this last thing is easier said than done. Try to get your happiness out of good things, like laughing, exercise, learn new things, hang out with good people, and help others. Believe me, there is great wisdom in the Quran which can boost your moral. Make sure you read the translation of the text as well. And whenever you are not certain of the meaning, look for it.
@thetruthwithproof88022 жыл бұрын
God is all knowing, was Jesus all knowing ❓ But of that day & that hour knoweth no man, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the son, but the Father ( Mark 13:32 ) ( The fact that Jesus does not know the future proves he is not God,plus this fact exposes the trinity by proving Jesus, God & the holy spirit are not One ) Jesus Exposes Christianity 👉🏻Jesus said why do you call me Good?” “No one Is good except God alone ( Luke 18 :19 ) If Jesus is God & God is One, who was Jesus calling God ❓ Was Jesus talking to himself ❓ Jesus cried out in a loud voice, ``My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" (Matthew 27 : 46 )
@deliranteotaku2 жыл бұрын
@@minizeref6245 @mini zeref hi brother...I believe that you are taking every problem that you find or listen to seriously or even make it personal. This is really affecting you in your mind. Sadly we don't live in the perfect world we will like to be, but you can try this to began with...#1 definitely pray, ask Allah for guidance, happiness and to remove this burden from you. #2 try to do something good, something that will fill your heart with happiness...but remember something good, #3 try little by little to do bad things...I know it is hard but i believe in you. Finally #4 has mentioned before don't argue with the unperrfect world, just enjoy life to the fullest...so if you find this difficult think that I'll also do all of this things, so I am there with you..I am sure you will feel bettersoon .Inshallah
@oscar3732 жыл бұрын
Hello, first of all thank you for your efforts on this channel. Secondly, I would apreciate hearing dr shabir ally's point of view on the idea that duhr,asr,maghreb prayers are not mentioned in the Quran and that they are not what we should be doing. I obviously do pray the 5 but Ive been reading some points of view and I don't have enough knowledge to answer my doubts. Where does Allah swt order us to pray 5 times a day, and who decided how? Thank you.
@shoaib82122 жыл бұрын
Maintain with care the [obligatory] prayers and [in particular] the middle prayer and stand before Allah , devoutly obedient. -- al-Baqara 2:238 And establish prayer at the two ends of the day and at the approach of the night. Indeed, good deeds do away with misdeeds. That is a reminder for those who remember. -- Hud 11:114 O you who have believed, let those whom your right hands possess and those who have not [yet] reached puberty among you ask permission of you [before entering] at three times: before the dawn prayer and when you put aside your clothing [for rest] at noon and after the night prayer. [These are] three times of privacy for you. There is no blame upon you nor upon them beyond these [periods], for they continually circulate among you - some of you, among others. Thus does Allah make clear to you the verses; and Allah is Knowing and Wise. -- an-Nur 24:58 Verse 1 tells us that there is a middle prayer which means there are at least 3 prayers and doesn't mention the exact number of prayers. Verse 2 tells us that during daylight (the time gap between fajr and maghrib) we have 2 prayers (duhr and a'sr) and one when the night approaches (al-Maghrib) (see also this Fatwa): With (only) this information it's still possible that we only have 3 prayers, but Verse 3 which teaches us about the resting times mention clearly the fajr/sobh prayer and the I'sha prayer as the fajr itself is a not mentioned time in the 2 Verses before we find out we really have 5 prayers mentioned in the Quran!
Finally. Islam is being taught correctly by this expert... Whabbies made up this throwing rule to go after those who leave Islam
@MohammedAli-yu9qh2 жыл бұрын
Very good explanation
@roshaedalfardin Жыл бұрын
I couldn't find the 'leaving the community' part in the hadith. Could you please provide references? (Bukhari 3017, Sunan an-Nasa'i 4059)
@ibmlenovo12 жыл бұрын
Jack from Italy's comments I am looking for.
@parameahwarbt4920 Жыл бұрын
Not only on those who leave islam but also even on those follow it, it is very harsh and cruel😮?
@hazim232010 ай бұрын
"Quran [4:137] Surely, those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe, then disbelieve, then plunge deeper into disbelief, GOD will not forgive them, nor will He guide them in any way." According to this verse, he should not be killed, Nowhere in the Quran is it written that those who leave Islam must be killed.
@iamtanim7273 ай бұрын
Mashallah
@squarecircle2347 Жыл бұрын
Saying there is no compulsion in religion is not a contradiction to the punishment for apostasy. If you are someone who simply no longer believes that Islam is true, you are an apostate and the existence of the apostasy punishment cannot be considered a compulsion because if it could then that means someone could remain in belief simply due to fear of being put to death and that's simply not how that works. Shabir is twisting things either deliberately or otherwise simply to make Islam look better and defend the indefensible.
@kyedean96982 жыл бұрын
Ameen ya Rabb.. at last THE TRUTH from Quran Speak.
@charlesmuhmanson39282 жыл бұрын
How do you explain the Riddah Wars?
@jamieammar61312 жыл бұрын
Ridda wars ..they were more about quashing rebellions and misinformation than apostasy really. Islam was the uniting force behind The Rashidun Caliphate.
@nejiskafir81982 жыл бұрын
@@jamieammar6131 Doesn't that violate "no compulsion in religion" nonetheless? Some of the greatest spread of Islam happened during the Rashidun Caliphate who engaged in war with its neighbors.
@Astaqfirullah92 жыл бұрын
@@nejiskafir8198 Islam promotes SELF-DEFENSE, and PROHIBITS AGRESSION except freeing oppressed people.
@jamieammar61312 жыл бұрын
@@nejiskafir8198 Well no one ever says that Islam spread peacefully. It needed to be spread through war and violence and conquest to be a rival of Christianity, and the Roman Empire. At least the violence was kept minimal in the beginning. That's how things were done in the medieval times I guess.
@nejiskafir81982 жыл бұрын
@@jamieammar6131 Hahahaha. I guess you just threw your Quran away and its claim that "There is no compulsion in religion".
@Don_g873 ай бұрын
Islam is a political religion it's not a religion that can give you salvation to the kingdom of God.
@phenomenal17playz2 жыл бұрын
I think the Hadith is talking about if someone leaves Islam and proselytizing others in other beliefs then kill that person.
@glennsalcedo26252 жыл бұрын
As expected from the great style bender....
@yonishassan75442 жыл бұрын
So he doesn't confirm islam condemn people leaving the faith. Oh well I guess more people, will have to leave islam at the end of the video.
@sidiksamion32 жыл бұрын
🙄
@Hacker-fh1ft2 жыл бұрын
NO THEY DONT HAVE TO LEAVE
@Astaqfirullah92 жыл бұрын
According to Quran verses, such as 18:29, 2:256, and 109:6, it absolutely clear that Allah gave people freewill to accept/reject Islam.
@Astaqfirullah92 жыл бұрын
👉People leave Islam emotionally, not intellectually.
@Hacker-fh1ft2 жыл бұрын
YES YOUR TELLING SOMETHING TRUE CUS ISLAM IS A REALLIGION FREE FOR ALL
@user-nf8cl8ui6y2 жыл бұрын
One can argue that if the military explanation was in fact the (only) reason for this particular law, then in current times, jurists would have abandoned that law. Now, when they still have that idea (at least some of them), it's logical to conclude that this tendency does not (only) come (and by extension, possibly was not only coming) from physical security concerns but comes from bigotry. As for the different punishments for men and women, one can say it is because in people's view women were not as much influential so their apostasy wouldn't greatly matter. As you correctly pointed out, this is an obvious example of people trying to force their ideas on God's commands. When God (swt) says يحرفون الكلم عن مواضعه it's not merely limited to ancient Jews but can happen (and has clearly happened) to everyone. In order to amend, one should first try to see/accept rampant diversions from divine law not to sanctify it. و الله اعلم
@capnanaya46422 жыл бұрын
Excuse me, but how could this be a mistake since we have several sahih hadith in both Bukhari and Muslim reporting that the Prophet PBHU didn't condemn apostasy?
@davidcharlton55522 жыл бұрын
Sunan an-Nasa'i 4061- "The Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'" Grade: Sahih
@capnanaya46422 жыл бұрын
@@davidcharlton5552 I'm very well aware of that, so what is your point?
@squarecircle2347 Жыл бұрын
@@capnanaya4642 The point is that it's as clear as daylight that In Islam apostates are to be killed and Shabir is just trying desperately to come up with a way to reinterpret that.
@capnanaya4642 Жыл бұрын
@@squarecircle2347 I wonder if people understand English or not. In no way I have agreed to Shabirs point, but rather have provided evidence against that.
@hazim232010 ай бұрын
"Quran [4:137] Surely, those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe, then disbelieve, then plunge deeper into disbelief, GOD will not forgive them, nor will He guide them in any way." According to this verse, he should not be killed, Nowhere in the Quran is it written that those who leave Islam must be killed.
@rahel56222 жыл бұрын
in short you saying the religion came as an army building force rather than a spiritual guide?
@tingnannatinnangmalaman94542 жыл бұрын
both during the time of the prophet. so the muslims were called believers and the enemy are called disbelievers. and now in our time those ruling can be mixed up interpreting the ruling for military to religion. so we should be careful and let our scholars to deal with it and let them explain it to us so that we will not fall to the misleading accusations of the enemies of islam. there are muslim preachers who can explain such verses of the quran that say "kill them wherever you find them". the enemies of islam like to quote this verse to support their claim that islam promote killing the disbelievers. but without the proper context some might believe.
@habarinjema316 Жыл бұрын
Surah 9:29-30 commands Muslims to compel Jews and Christians to convert to Islam. Therefore Surah 2:256 is abrogated.
@khuajaazrakhsh2672 Жыл бұрын
God bless you God bless you God bless you
@Dannydreadlord9 ай бұрын
Imagine a book saying in absolute words (just like what Shabir quotes) in one page and says something opposite in another page, normally we would call that a "conflicting message". But change the book to Quran and quote something like killing a person is like killing the whole humanity and turn a few pages and see that there are some exceptions ( like murderers and listen to this " spreading disorderliness in the community" whatever that means. What "Peaceful religion" followers in the west are trying to show is the nature of a follower of this religion when they are fewer in number and do not possess enough might, wait a few decades and when they find themselves with enough numbers, expect what the Franch, German and Europeans in general are finding themselves in. They are taught this in every page of their holy book, to look at followers of other religions to be Najis (less than Human) so dont be surprised when they treat you" less than human", its not a bug but its the feature. killing one human should be actually taken as killing one of their fellow followers, Peaceful religion is peaceful for people who follow this religion everyone else is either Najis, Khafir, Murthad, and are not worthy of any respect, just look at what happened to Israelis in October 2023, see what they do with the captives( men will suffer death but just imagine what would happen to women captives, captured, paraded and God only knows what they would do to the women).
@akhilghore2 жыл бұрын
In reply same answer, this misunderstood, stop justifying
@joeb5080Ай бұрын
They must both be really tired from all that mental gymnastics.
@dedyrahadian67582 жыл бұрын
So why you dont muslim fight to abolish this law, instead keep quiet and or even enjoying the benefit of this law? Almost all moslem country has a punishment for leaving Islam (thank god not my country though, indonesia)
@black_immigrant_thrive Жыл бұрын
Read about Islam Ahmadiyya, we condemn this rubb*is 100%
@dedyrahadian6758 Жыл бұрын
@@black_immigrant_thrive Yeah, personally i don't have any issue with Ahmadiya. But you are kind of Mormon for Islam, hahah.
@hekimaasilia62072 жыл бұрын
I pity anyone who has the job of justifying the unjustifiable. Well done Shabir! 👏🏿👏🏿
@laylaali59772 жыл бұрын
It’s not a illegal to leave Islam that is between them and god.
@squarecircle2347 Жыл бұрын
That's not true. There are multiple sahih hadiths confirming that you are to be put to death if you leave Islam.
@m.e.e28782 жыл бұрын
Love the Showwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
@IbnGump2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why this keeps popping up on my KZbin. This should be called let the devil speak
@Sekou156Ай бұрын
Zakir Naik disagree
@easyguy6252 жыл бұрын
How true is hadith Sahih al-Bukaari no 3017 "Whoever changes his religion, kill him."?
@ibrahimalmuzani92842 жыл бұрын
So you left Islam? Why?
@easyguy6252 жыл бұрын
@@ibrahimalmuzani9284 Why not?
@MeemKhaMeemDhal--khaYaRaWawNun Жыл бұрын
@@easyguy625 u do know that advanced Quran miracles hidden away from most people DO exists right ? it's true !! Even if Elon Musk is to offer me 1 billion dollar now just to leave Islam, I will still not do it !
@dipankarroy9748 Жыл бұрын
If islam was a good religion why would you have to fight all the time. It should have been accepted by everyone. If its sent by god why was the muslims not protected by God. This means that it is all man made
@bekzodhakimov45732 жыл бұрын
But i am sure there are those toxic islamic youtubers will make a video out of it and say this is wrong. They cast you from their community for not praying, and others. Even praying is in their decisions to do, and they believe there is only one Almighty.
@easyguy6252 жыл бұрын
So why is there dealth penalty for apostasy in 13 muslim countries?
@davidcharlton55522 жыл бұрын
Sunan an-Nasa'i 4061- "The Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'" Grade: Sahih
@easyguy6252 жыл бұрын
@@davidcharlton5552 Thank you
@hekimaasilia62072 жыл бұрын
@@davidcharlton5552That’s the real truth!
@Nazam442 жыл бұрын
There’s about 50 Muslim countries in the world. How about the 37 countries which don’t have the death penalty for apostasy?
@easyguy6252 жыл бұрын
@@Nazam44 Because they have governments based on a sort of democracy. Who would of thought Maldives, a very popular holiday destination for Westerners, has death penaly for apostasy? If anything this is more proof a lot islam is made up
@myhomemykook Жыл бұрын
I am protected by God that's why I didn't born as a pislam🕋🕌 follower
@robertcummins77392 жыл бұрын
Btw here in the USA Treason can be punishable by death.
@squarecircle2347 Жыл бұрын
How is leaving Islam by any means comparable to treason?
@iniminimaynimo Жыл бұрын
@@squarecircle2347 so you didn't watch the video....
@squarecircle2347 Жыл бұрын
@@iniminimaynimo Does he explain it in the video? Timestamp?
@trueindian225 ай бұрын
how this guy make such a story! who naratted this version of islam to sabir ali, he never provides any refernece. The statement he said is early age of ismam/quran, when mohammad was not in power. But actual harse or cruel verses came when mohammad was in power.
@John-lf3xf2 жыл бұрын
If your reasoning was sound, then the Hadith would actually only refer to men. It does not seem to do so.
@ovaiszohan37662 жыл бұрын
I've a question... Did people prayed to Allah before the quran was revealed before the prophet Muhammad was born??.. If they didn't. Then y is this discrimination with the people born b4 and after prophet Muhammad??.
@Worship_Allah_2 жыл бұрын
Yes, they did. The pagan Makkans believed in Allah, but they worshiped Him along with others, such as their carved idols, gods they made up, and some worshiped angels, or jinn. They also made up laws, saying that Allah had prohibited this or that, when He really had not.
@hamzasheikh45882 жыл бұрын
Isa ibn Maryam (pbuh) also know as Jesus son of Mary is the second last and one of the most important prophets of Islam. So the people Who followed the Religion of Ibrahim and The religion of Musa (A.s) was at Right path. Also the Prophet(S.A.W.W) followed the religion of Ibrahim.before the announcement of his Prophethood and The Teachings of Musa (A.s) was for Bani Israel becauze he was send for Bani Israel. So the people Who followed Hanif deen Of Ibrahim or the teachings of Musa was at right Place.
@ovaiszohan37662 жыл бұрын
@@hamzasheikh4588 this no where answers my question
@imanf38822 жыл бұрын
@@ovaiszohan3766 yes.
@ovaiszohan37662 жыл бұрын
@@imanf3882 how?.. It was prophet Muhammad who taught us how and what to pray...
@anilvaz67542 жыл бұрын
Hypothetical hypnosis.
@fearplz14 ай бұрын
Giving vague explanations to defend killing people for leaving Islam. The only reason Islam still exists because of apostasy and blasphemy laws.
@bngr_bngr2 жыл бұрын
In the title too should be to.
@maasim27152 жыл бұрын
Dr Shabbir was not succinct at all: the Qur'an is absolutely unequivocal about the freedom of conscience in scores of verses including 2:256; there is not one single verse that prescribes death for apostasy and the Prophet never killed one single person for leaving Islam which is rare any way.
@jackbarnes55892 жыл бұрын
I guess this is just my bad experiences with some, but most don't even care to hear why I left Islam. From what I've seen anyway. I guess some Muslims think Islam is mental illness proof. It's not, no religion is. Cause Schizophrenia almost completely destroyed it for me. People have many reasons why they leave Islam. The only thing with me is I still believe in Allah.
@truesay7862 жыл бұрын
Very sorry to hear your difficulties Jack. There is a narration attributed to the Prophet where he said the Pen is lifted on 3, a child until he reaches adulthood ,a person who is asleep untill he awakes, and a man who has lost his normal state of mind until he regains his full mental faculties. Beyond this We all have ups and downs in our level of practice the doors of mercy are always open so we must never despair.
@jackbarnes55892 жыл бұрын
@@truesay786 Thanks. I guess I'm more in a gray area. I still believe in Allah but following and practicing Islam has completely stopped. Hearing from ones in the Ummah itself that "Your disabilities are just curses from Allah" and "You're just to ret@$%ed to understand and learn." did a lot of damage. May Allah have mercy on them. Last thing a person with Autism and Schizo like is being told they're rt@rded.
@majeedm6892 жыл бұрын
3:15. More mental gym gymnastics to hide the fact that Muhammed killed those who left Islam. Says absolutely nothing about "community" and other stuff Ally is deliberately adding in. Ibn 'Abbas said: "The Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'" Grade :sahih Sunan An Nisai - 4059
@markward39812 жыл бұрын
Yes this a hadith but there are dozens of others which must all be interpreted.
@iniminimaynimo Жыл бұрын
So David Charlton changed his name?
@antibioticantibiotic5386 Жыл бұрын
Well do you think you take this hadith literally? Then why does it doesn't mean to kill those who transferred to Judaism from Christianity? Because it say whoever changes religion not particularly Islam.. See that's why schoolers take all hadith and Quran and look for the context. by saying Shabbir is adding up you are adding up by yourself.
@pyndiahkalyan29722 жыл бұрын
No military secret no other reasoned the world of non Muslim will know the true colour n disrepute d in their side
@davidcharlton55522 жыл бұрын
So how do you handle the Strong Hadith Sunan an-Nasa'i 4061? do you just disregard strong Hadith and say it does not matter because it is not in the Quran... even though the Quran does not specifically address the topic? Sunan an-Nasa'i 4061 - "The Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'"
@perniciousseizurehellio34382 жыл бұрын
Yeah pretty much. The Quran is the only holy book in islam if a hadith contradicts it then the hadith is wrong, not the other way around.
@perniciousseizurehellio34382 жыл бұрын
Hadith were written by men
@rithikas78792 жыл бұрын
Quran (4:89) - "They wish that you should reject faith as they reject faith, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper." Sahih Bukhari 84:64-65 - "Allah's Apostle: 'During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for whoever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection.' Sahih Bukhari 52:260 - "...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "
@perniciousseizurehellio34382 жыл бұрын
@@rithikas7879 You completely took that verse out of context. The verse is in the context of war as explained in the very next verse which you conveniently left out. Quran 4:90 "Except for those who take refuge with a people between yourselves and whom is a treaty or those who come to you, their hearts strained at [the prospect of] fighting you or fighting their own people. And if Allah had willed, he could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you. So if they remove themselves from you and do not fight you and offer you peace, then allah has not made for you a cause [for fighting] against them."
@melvinpervis66782 жыл бұрын
I love this guy he always dances around questions never answers them just dances around them
@MeemKhaMeemDhal--khaYaRaWawNun Жыл бұрын
If you want direct answer : Quran : 2:256 : There can be NO COMPULSION in religion THERE ! I gave you BOTH the chapter and verse number tooo !! Maybe you are going to 'dance' your way out of here too now.
@melvinpervis6678 Жыл бұрын
@@MeemKhaMeemDhal--khaYaRaWawNun ill stick to Christianity at least if you talk about our prophets a death sentence won't be put on you by religious leaders Jesus showed us the way of peace and humility and let his followers know they will hate you because they hate him first
@MeemKhaMeemDhal--khaYaRaWawNun Жыл бұрын
@@melvinpervis6678 Christianity enjoys life too much ! See all the millionaire actors and sportsmens. They enjoy life too much. Life on Earth is like a heaven to them. It does not make sense. Some people are born super ugly. Some are born totally handicapped. BLIND ! In Islam, Life on earth must be total test and hardship first. ONLY then it is fair to enjoy last ! In Islam we fast more, pray more and need to donate more too.....But of course we can still enjoy earthly abit too. But we still have to pray too and fast, little way too much than most if not all other religion. At least 30 to 40 min of our daily life must go to praying and remembrance of God too. Islam and Quran has countless superb miracles which I am researching myself right now. This are all no ordinary miracles. They are all straight to the point !
@habarinjema316 Жыл бұрын
@@MeemKhaMeemDhal--khaYaRaWawNun Surah 9:29-30 commands Muslims to compel Jews and Christians to convert to Islam. Therefore Surah 2:256 is abrogated.
@hazim232010 ай бұрын
"Quran [4:137] Surely, those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe, then disbelieve, then plunge deeper into disbelief, GOD will not forgive them, nor will He guide them in any way." According to this verse, he should not be killed, Nowhere in the Quran is it written that those who leave Islam must be killed.
@cmgr86882 жыл бұрын
OK! i'm going to leave now.
@muhammedsaneer68392 жыл бұрын
context.such bullshiy
@jamescook44022 жыл бұрын
She is struggling with this wishy washy answers from shabir.
@zayidabdulkareem77972 жыл бұрын
Compulsion in acceptance but after you accept you have compulsion. You must pay zakat if you owe. The Khalifa went to war against those that refused
@Astaqfirullah92 жыл бұрын
18:29 The truth is from your Lord, so whoever wills, let him believe, and whoever wills, let him disbelieve. Hadith is fake if it's against Quran.
@thehourglassfan35152 жыл бұрын
@@Astaqfirullah9 Exactly.
@fidelcatsro69482 жыл бұрын
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@kouroshmemari24502 жыл бұрын
Islam is not a special name. In English, it is called submission. Anyone who believes in the oneness of "God the King of the World" and the Day of Judgment is considered to be a submitter. The call of our "Lord" from other religions is to believe in the Qur'an and to follow Abraham, who called us "Submitters". Islam today is evil and corrupted by the hadiths and traditions, and the polytheists who follow Muhammad. That is why our "LORD" tells us about Jesus and all the other prophets who were also "Submitted". They did not know Arabic to call themselves "Muslims"! our "LORD" wants the other religions to use the wisdom of the Quran, and not to join the polytheists today, who call themselves "Muslims"! 22:67 (Pilgrimage), (5:48 The feast), (22:78 Pilgrimage)
@thehourglassfan35152 жыл бұрын
People who follow the wisdom of the Quran are submitters but following any other book as the divine word of God such as Bukary is polytheism.
@kouroshmemari24502 жыл бұрын
@@thehourglassfan3515 You are absolutely right. "In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful" Hadith and Sunnah: Satan's plot and trick. (22:52_54 Pilgrimage) Verses related to the invalidity of the hadith: The Quran is All We Need. [12: 111] In their history, there is a lesson for those who possess intelligence. This is not fabricated Hadith; this (Quran) confirms all previous scriptures, provides the details of everything, and is a beacon and mercy for those who believe. [31: 6] Among the people, there are those who uphold baseless Hadith, and thus divert others from the path of "GOD the King of the world" without knowledge and take it in vain. These have incurred a shameful retribution. Which Hadith? [45: 6] These are "GOD’s the Wisest" revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than "GOD the Only" and "His Majesty's" revelations do they believe? Pure praise to "God the King of the Resurrection"
@thehourglassfan35152 жыл бұрын
@@kouroshmemari2450 Yeah, the speech of God is what must be followed, nothing else.
@FMP1772 жыл бұрын
Rubbish!!! Nice try Dr. Shabir Ally
@basharatbala76172 жыл бұрын
Non Believer seeking easy exit for Muslims from Islam. We must be wary of these Disbelievers.
@jamieammar61312 жыл бұрын
What do you mean ? You support death for apostasy ?
@yonishassan75442 жыл бұрын
I can confirm he does supports death for apostasy.
@Astaqfirullah92 жыл бұрын
@@jamieammar6131 Bible says murder apostates and other disbelievers (Deuteronomy 13:6-9)
@Astaqfirullah92 жыл бұрын
@@yonishassan7544 Quran 2:256 says "There's NO compulsion in religion."
@jamieammar61312 жыл бұрын
@@Astaqfirullah9 What does it matter what the Bible says ? If you are talking about Christianity, well, no one follows the laws of the Old Testament. If you mean Judaism, Rabbinical Judaism don't follow the extreme verses. Neither do they stone people anymore.
@Adam-qu5uk2 жыл бұрын
First of all. Don’t take the compulsion lightly you leave no matter how easy life you get here you will burn in eternity in helll. God forgives all sins but not those who don’t believe him.
@yonishassan75442 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your views on islam. You are an honest muslim that can answer the question Dr. Shabir Ally couldn't answer. And just maybe more people will leave islam after your comment.
@Astaqfirullah92 жыл бұрын
@@yonishassan7544 It has been proven that Intellectual people don't leave Islam. 👉Prove me wrong if you can rationally.
@thehourglassfan35152 жыл бұрын
@@yonishassan7544 He ain’t honest. He has no clue what he’s talking about. If you leave the religion, that’s your choice. As for the afterlife, God knows best.
@yonishassan75442 жыл бұрын
@@Astaqfirullah9 There are some intellectuals who have left Islam, Im going to name a few but you're not going to like them. Ridvan Aydemir, Aayan Hirsi Ali and the late Nabeel Qureshi(may he rest in peace).
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@nktours2 жыл бұрын
this guy is very lenenient in everything i bet even in lgbt