Is It Legal to Mummify Your Cult Leader?

[@stephaniemomma]

Oh I’ve missed you! I’ve been worried because you haven’t posted 🙂 How are you holding up?

[@auricstorm]

I would like to know this too? I worry about my internet older sister

[@AskAMortician]

That's very sweet! Like many people I'm questioning who I am and where to best put my time after the last year. The good news is that myself and my team are still extremely passionate about this channel and KZbin as a medium to share our advocacy. But that also means we put a lot of pressure on ourselves to get things right, and not put out anything half baked on the channel. We're excited to get our fully vaxxed butts back on the road this summer to find new stories and feature new things and get back to the momentum we had pre-THE BAD TIMES. I hope you are also well, I hope everyone is well.

[@judymac2590]

@@AskAMortician Soooo looking forward to more Caitlin!!

[@natalielloyd9200]

@@AskAMortician You are just incredible and help so many people exponentially more than you will ever know. Thank you for everything you do!

[@D0nnI3D]

@@AskAMortician it's good to have a new video, don't pressure yourself though. Good work as always :)

[@goodlookingcorpse]

She's two years younger than me, and she's already started a cult and become a creepy mummy. I feel like I've achieved nothing.

[@jimenasanchez7026]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpWxi3qYarJ3gcU .,.,.,.

[@ladyhaha7548]

Don't worry you achieved a lot by NOT becoming a cult leader and a creepy mummy

[@AM-xc1ol]

😆😆😆😆

[@neuralmute]

She's two years older than me, and I'm thinking that I've got a LOT of catching up to do! ('Cause who hasn't wanted their very own cult, right?)

[@ladyhaha7548]

@@neuralmute if you're gonna start a cult, here's a suggestion: a cult that worship teeth with arms and legs

[@Nepeta-Leijon]

"...violation of covid quarantine rules" me: oh so this is RECENT recent

[@jonesfamilyfarms9325]

My thoughts exactly 😂

[@nekovannox]

The new era marker. Forget B.C. and A.C., now we have pre-Covid and post-Covid!

[@michealpersicko9531]

@@nekovannox No it's Annus Covidi

[@aileecaraballofontanez211]

@@michealpersicko9531 🤣🤣🤣

[@availanila]

@@michealpersicko9531 😭😂😂😅 oh my goodness!!

[@emilyblack7342]

“Who started the fire?” “PELE” That’s Kauai for you. It seems like every few years some mainlanders try move in and start some shit, and every time the locals respond gloriously.

[@tanchella]

I was thinking aboud Chad and Lori. Seems like a cult magnet.

[@Kat4Pepsi0719]

A+ to the locals for that witty answer!

[@wareforcoin5780]

I never heard that Hawaii would be a cult magnet, but now that I hear it, sounds right. Cults aught to just stick to Utah if they want to not get broken up by locals. There's no locals to piss off in Utah. I'm just a more practical cult leader than Hawaiian ones, I guess.

[@melanieortiz712]

@@wareforcoin5780 there's local in utah. They're called Natives! Peticularly the Piute. White people can take there cults back to Europe.

[@coyoteartist]

@@melanieortiz712 To be fair I think they meant the fact that there's an awful lot of empty space in Utah.

[@racheldare.]

“mother god had become mummy god” was hilarious don’t apologize

[@JamesBond-uz2dm]

ba dum tish

[@meganpeoples3866]

That is such a power move, tho "Who set this house on fire?" ""Pele"

[@ravenestrella2310]

Hahahaha!!! It so was! Fucking brilliant answer, as far as I’m concerned!

[@miztikiz]

Very “F around and find out” response.

[@meganpeoples3866]

@@summersolstice884 "yeah mate, sorry. The plan you are under doesn't cover damages due to divine intervention."

[@suenestnature]

Favourite protest answer of all time!

[@nejdalej]

Hey s'up Megan! :D

[@paperplanes1753]

"As a white person from Hawaii, I feel I can speak for the Hawaiian people when I say what they *love* most is a forty-something white lady from the mainland coming over during a pandemic and declaring herself to be their sacred goddess, Pele. They love it. Five stars. " As a Native Hawaiian from Hawaii, I can agree 🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭 Ps- Love you Caitlin

[@ceciliag2929]

Priceless 😂

[@solchapeau6343]

Yes, yes, yes. If you grow up somewhere your baby brain says "I am from here". Caitlin is Hawaiian.

[@blueai5022]

@@lysanamcmillan7972 I was about to comment practically the same thing. Being from Hawai'i is not the same as being Hawaiian. It's not like being "Texan" or "Californian." It is an ethnicity, not a word denoting what state you're from.

[@cdc194]

Wasn't she blue from the colloidal silver by then?

[@painoftheheart12]

@@blueai5022 say it louder

[@BoneTheory]

"Who started these fires???" "Pele." oh frick frack that is some SASS.

[@idiotsandwich1045]

Ryan started the fire

[@merrittanimation7721]

*starts blasting Billy Joel outside their compound*

[@MIKO_roma]

starting a bbq, i see?

[@asarishepard8171]

im dying here :P that was awesome.

[@acehasaface948]

ICONIC

[@MysticShadowInsights]

Update: The autopsy revealed tha her eyes weren't infact removed but had started liquefying, all charges, the charges of defying the body and child abuse were dropped and there were no traces of cancer in her body at all....according to sources. It was a great misconception on her part or lie it's believed she was killed by great liver damage due to excessive drugs and alcohol use as well as the coloidal silver and malnutrition. Thank you for the video girl, your so wonderful and funny

[@user-pi3hd2bt3f]

The child abuse charges too? They held a 2 year old hostage.

[@MysticShadowInsights]

@@user-pi3hd2bt3f Unfortunantly yes, to my understanding

[@m00nrac00n]

Imagine raising a child for like 21+ years just for them to end up in a weird cult with an alcoholic wine aunt as leader.

[@ninaappelt9001]

Disappointing would be an understatement.

[@mollyzoe6979]

You’re in a cult, call your dad! #mfm

[@kaizerkeller]

hey! that's an insult to alcoholic wine aunts

[@elenaderoet4926]

Yeah, you do what you can and just have to kind of hope that they have some common sense.....

[@GunsNRoses1123]

I would be so dissapointed and order a mental health, brain damage and IQ tests.

[@FirstLast-po8oz]

you have to admit, carrying around the bones of your saint as your tribe travels from town to town is a pretty vintage hobby for a religion.

[@forkingsandkeys]

Right? We forgetting about reliquaries here? The various disinterred bones of saints? Carried around in shiny metal and glass cases? Like, they carried the supposed Crucifixion cross to Jerusalem in the crusades because it “still had Jesus’s blood on it.”

[@elisabethmontegna5412]

@@forkingsandkeys Exactly! The cathedrals and churches of Europe all have “treasuries” full of saint relics (ie body parts) proudly displayed in ornate, bejeweled glass boxes. Plus there are a fair amount of “incorruptibles” on display in chapels dedicated to them (has there already been a video on incorruptibles? I just discovered this channel and haven’t been through the entire backlog). In fact, every Roman Catholic Church must have a saint’s relic (you can’t say Mass without one; something about the fact that in the early days of Roman Christianity, Mass was held in the catacombs of Rome). (Not saying all of this to diss Catholics-I’m a practicing Catholic myself). What these folks did is honestly not so different from that tradition. They probably would have put her in a hermetically sealed diamond encrusted gold and silver box with glass sides if they had had one laying around but they didn’t so they went with Christmas lights and glitter eyeshadow instead, I guess?

[@absenttoday7226]

This was exactly what I thinking of the one year I went to catholic school (having only ever experienced protestant religion etc) and they were like "we've brought the finger bone of Saint Peter to pray with it's like hella ancient :D"

[@elisabethmontegna5412]

@@absenttoday7226 omg, I'm just picturing the look on your face! I grew up Catholic, but in an area of the US where Catholics were considered a rather suspect religious minority and I think the Catholic churches toned down a lot of things in order to seem more acceptable to their Protestant neighbors. So, I knew about relics but to me, they were something that you kept hidden somewhere near the altar that nobody ever saw or talked about. I was completely unprepared for the first European cathedral "treasury" I walked into, lol.

[@absenttoday7226]

@@elisabethmontegna5412 Yeah a lot of my peers there had been in that school from like the very beginning of their education and were gonna go on to Catholic highschools (it was their last year there cause it was like pre-K to 8th grade) so the audience was mostly composed of already baptized and established Catholic teens. I wouldn't put it past them to have forgotten about me the like singular person who didn't grow up around that and hadn't learnt about relics before. I live in Florida so I've certainly grown up around a lot of southern preachers so usually when you enter a Catholic school around here you're doing it because you're Catholic rather than being an outsider in some sense or another so they most likely assumed I was Catholic myself. I'd never expirenced Catholicism in anyway before so a lot of things blew my mind unlike all my peers so I was just sitting their like 👁️👁️ while nobody else is reacting 😂

[@tenebrisrex333]

"Gwen...goopeywoopey..." I fucking died, and no, it wasn't because of colloidal silver.

[@benjaminwilliams8030]

**spits out coffee **

[@maryeckel9682]

I'm wheezing

[@othername1000]

From a quick check for follow up. COD: alcohol abuse, anorexia and chronic colloidal silver ingestion. Abuse of Corpse charges dismissed.

[@fulkthered]

When ever someone claims to be reincarnated it's almost always someone famous from history.Seems nobody was ever a pig farmer in a former life.

[@gmann215]

Yeah, because they obviously weren't "common folk". Someone as "incredible" as them must have been someone important.

[@1Ladydeath420]

There was a kid that was a pilot like a young kid like 7or sum but idk the kid could tell you ever part of the plan he was standing next to 🤔

[@LorettaRyden]

I'm pretty sure I was a chef in my past life. Or just had to do a lot of cooking. Because now I hate it. Why can't we just have food replicators?

[@1Ladydeath420]

@@mikeinkalaoa well I don't think so he was a child like if someone can tell you how to put a plane engine together they have to be some type of genuines you would just have to see the documentary

[@daniplaysoneasy-9454]

Lmao, fr, there are about 100k pocahontas reincarnations. She been busy!

[@sarawilliams9025]

I dig the Hawaiian peoples...”Pele did it. Prove us wrong.” 🤣🤣

[@CaitCher]

Hey if white people are going to start appropriating their gods, might as well use it to their advantage.

[@jimenasanchez7026]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpWxi3qYarJ3gcU .,.,.,.

[@avi8r66]

Isn't that the standard argument for most religions? God did it, prove me wrong. That sort of thing.

[@mirjanbouma]

That was genius.

[@FebrithDarkstar]

That made me lol:)

[@christophertaylor87]

The abuse of a corpse charge was likely used to secure an arrest while they gather more evidence on potential other charges.

[@lyndsann3309]

True

[@corneliussnow8215]

I wouldn't be surprised, they have probably been wanting to get rid of these people for a while now and they finally have something to work with.

[@nooneinparticular469]

You get the gangsters on their taxes. It’s easier to prosecute simpler crimes, so it’s a good way to pin down individuals awaiting verdict on complex or poorly-defined crimes.

[@sto1238]

Yea it’s like gangsters and taxes. They couldn’t get Capone on murder and substance dealing so they got his ass on tax stuff

[@NickiAvenged]

She'd be seeing God real quick if I ever caught her treating animals like that. People like that are vile.

[@perezangec]

I'm right there with you!

[@taliabraver]

Typical woke confused people ,sad!

[@jarricah7920]

So you care more about the animals than the children she was abusing 🤦🏽‍♀️… y’all animal people are something special

[@ghostking6700]

​@@jarricah7920 no one said that and you know it

[@cosmokramer7009]

​@@ghostking6700It's implicit

[@thelastminmom5251]

It’s funny how she’s called “mother” to her followers. Yet, she abandoned her own 2 children and left them w her immediate family members. (Mother and sisters) Some mom.

[@KM-ql4eb]

The kids were probably better off though :(

[@ninamartin1084]

well the buddha abandoned his wife and children........just sayin

[@Parisroam]

@@ninamartin1084 i didn’t know that. What a shitty thing to do

[@itsgaylebitxh]

@@ninamartin1084 Yeah but she's supposed to be a reincarnation of a smart god.

[@ichinoshina2738]

@@Parisroam to be fair, and to not excuse his actions, in buddhism buddha basically came to the concludion that existing is just experiencing and prolonging suffering and thus the only way to escape this cycle is to effectively cease to exist even down to the soul via purging any and all attachments one has with the world. Which includes the family part. Yeah.... Another thing to take note of is that we are currently seeing this through the eyes of the modern world and not the lens of the times when buddhism is founded by buddha. I myself dont have thr cultral lens to comment on it, so i just want to say to keep a relatively open mind abt it.

[@22DanceFun]

If being a rude alcoholic is all it takes, I could have been a God in my 20s 😫

[@elrored]

😂😂😂👏

[@Sara-tv1wf]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@davidsiracuse6672]

😅🤣👍

[@sangonomiyakokomi5764]

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

[@Kazza_8240]

🏆 best comment 👏🏻🤣

[@Indigokitteh]

So...it's called "Love Has Won" and yet the leader is hateful, abusive, belligerent, and manipulative, among so many other problematic things. Where is this "love"?

[@cam4636]

They accidentally forgot the love and picked up meatballs instead

[@Woahitsaturtlegynecologist]

@Lassi Kinnunen 81 Damn, I’m using that from now on if I feel like being a jerk.

[@n0rm3nv4rg5]

Depends on how you put it. If you read it like "Love has won... For now! But we will come for you, love, more hostile and drunk and higher than ever, and we will kick your fucking understanding, caring and, uuuh, loving ass!", then the name makes sense.

[@lcmiracle]

Love is hate, hate is enlightenment, enlightenment is mummy. Duh

[@stephaniemarquez7072]

It came after she ascended 😂

[@chumuheha]

I'm watching this HBO documentary as it comes out, and while most of the cult members are young people who could believably be persuaded by a charismatic leader to join, one of them was a mother who brought her children... that was genuinely horrifying and even after Carlson died she's still a member of the cult! The kids are with their grandparents, thank god, but it's like watching aliens or something, the way they talk.

[@D.Susan14]

Agree. Just finished watching the 3 part series today. I noticed that even though these folks were *constantly talking and livestreaming, they were just repeating the same (imo, meaningless) words, over and over. Word salad for the enlightened, no substance, just catch phrases. 4D vs 3D world, ascending, the galactics, moving energy, the cabal, divine plan, the matrix, etc. I've noticed that other cults also use unique but empty language. One example is Keith Reniere & Co. in NXIVM. Another is scientology. My question is, why? What is the purpose? Is it to confuse followers? To appear as enlightened or unique?

[@chumuheha]

@@D.Susan14 I think some of them are genuinely deluded, and believe the shit they say. A few who they interviewed clearly didn't 100% buy in, even if they were enamored with Amy (like the first Father God, also a girl with red hair whose name I don't remember). I think some of them have a chance of escaping the delusion, at the end of the documentary one of them even reconnected with her mother (though she still is pushing this 5D nonsense, but I think in time she may put it behind her).

[@RockAndDoubleBassWithAaronJoy]

This is common. You see a lot of parents join cults, their kids are sucked in, the kids leave, the parents stay. As the cult essentially reprograms them not to put their kid first, but the cult/cult leader.

[@katelynfe]

​@@D.Susan14 i think it has to do a lot with the insane amount of substance abuse going on, especially excessive amounts of psychedelics

[@jayayerson8819]

"I'm sorry for that joke." No you're not Caitlin, nor should you be. That is the level of content we signed on for.

[@ashmaybe9634]

Here to say this, perfect joke,

[@lisamariemary]

💯💯💯😝🤣🤣🤣

[@nicoleashleyknox]

A-class top tier joke 😂😂😂💗💗💗

[@AE-ck5xu]

Literally just read a new article today and the autopsy showed that she died due to a decline brought on by alcohol abuse, anorexia, and dosing colloidal silver. Also showed she didn't have cancer

[@jazisajoke8688]

i’m screaminggg

[@spetersen2173]

😨😨😨

[@GillfigGarstang]

@@spetersen2173 Gosh there is an emoji for everything these days, even colloidal silver poisoning!

[@frenchmoxie]

Apparently, in addition to having a system full of DILAUDID (strong opiate) and LORTAB! LMAO 🤣 When apparently Mother doesn’t use pharmaceuticals.

[@kkandsims4612]

Yea u know I was in the hospital for and people like her usually get put on medication and on 1:1’s 😂😂

[@2peek]

As a follow up, "Mummy God" died as a result of 1)anorexia 2) colloidal silver ingestion & 3) alcohol abuse.

[@caroldowning8243]

That's a shock 😱🤣

[@charliebrown9392]

@@caroldowning8243 that's a reality

[@marshmallowbudgie]

that sounds like a pretty efficient route to live embalming, really

[@Vizivirag]

So that was up with her skin color!

[@slimshidy2451]

​@@Vizivirag that's WACIST 😱

[@R-1988]

The footage of "Mom" and her followers was tough to watch. I hope that those folks get help someday and I really mean that.

[@duelbraids]

"Who started these fires!" "Pele!" genuine geniuses.

[@lowwastehighmelanin]

Ain't no humor like Indigenous humor

[@yechezkelmendoza5698]

@@lowwastehighmelanin How would Hawaiians feel if I was married to a Hawaiian and I preached and blew a shofar on top of a hill and claimed Hawaii is in the region from the ends of the earth from Jerusalem (which it geographically is)? I am a messianic Jew. I dont consider my beliefs a cult.

[@duelbraids]

@@lowwastehighmelanin truly, lol

[@donaldoehl7690]

Pele acts in mysterious ways!

[@merrittanimation7721]

"If it walks like a cult, or it quacks like a cult, well it may be a duck but it may also be a cult" Or a duck cult.

[@ametrinemoon]

It's truly quackers

[@merrittanimation7721]

@@ametrinemoon Truly a fowl concept

[@ametrinemoon]

@@merrittanimation7721 Eggsactly. LOL

[@jimenasanchez7026]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpWxi3qYarJ3gcU .,.,.,.

[@SadisticSenpai61]

"Only the duck can save us!" Oh, sorry. I'm channeling Starkids again. Side note, anyone else seen Firebringer by Starkids? There's a literal duck cult in it!

[@ImperiumSilverCrystal]

Not gonna lie, Amy's backstory for herself is truly the best D&D character creation I have heard in a while.

[@haxican6114]

Sounds so strange for a level 1 Cleric, but we'll go rule of cool

[@ImperiumSilverCrystal]

@@haxican6114 - 😂

[@honeybee1256]

@@haxican6114 nice

[@typicallyusual6984]

Nah, way too Mary Sue

[@ImperiumSilverCrystal]

@@typicallyusual6984 - That's the beauty of a D&D Sue, you can kill their character off. But she took that silver so I'd say she rolled the ones herself 🤷‍♀️

[@zzhettyzz1549]

If she was a Lemurian, she definitely wouldn't be holding up a cat by its neck and screaming at it because Lemurians loved all things nature and they are about peace with all beings 🤨

[@mimisezlol]

Lemurians didn't exist, lemuria was a theoretical landmass thought up to explain lemurs and primates in India, Madagascar, and Africa before plate tectonics were discovered.

[@scott8919]

Nothing usually triggers me but the clip of her grabbing the cat made me fill with rage.

[@Zoomeia]

it was certainly distressing to see.

[@judithbradford9130]

Same. I rescue orphaned kittens. I wanted to tie her up with something electrical, myself, for slinging a cat around by the neck and screaming expletives at its cries.

[@pheart2381]

Made me feel sick actually.

[@kittencadaver2744]

Same

[@solchapeau6343]

Even if we look at that short clip in the best possible light, she holds a cat in the air, a cat that is not fighting, and yells at it. I have rudely pushed a cat that scratched me. I have yelled when a dog bit me on accident. But it's over in under a second and the animal runs away. And that's the end of it. Dog bites, I yell, dog runs, I let the incident stop.

[@chrisheartman9263]

"Mom is NO on drugs" Rips a big fat bong RIGHT after.

[@mariakelly1059]

No on drugs except for HER.

[@dayaautum6983]

"No on drugs because look at how I turned out" might be more honest, but, since she is claiming to be a god honesty isn't exactly in the play book.

[@skeetsmcgrew3282]

To be fair, there are many many Americans who say they are against drugs but drink coffee every morning and drink beer every weekend

[@caramelapplecrack]

bUt iTs OrGaNiC xD

[@demiller74]

Watch the Vice show on Love has Won.

[@leonorf2730]

"Jesus and Marilyn Monroe would never have to put up with that." Damn lady how do you keep getting funnier

[@titlepending3820]

I saw the video from her ex-fiance and it was really freaking sad. He said she was a wonderful person before she completely lost her mind (from drug and alchy abuse) and he showed pictures of her younger days when she was a responsible young lady who took care of her family and had a lot of good goals for her future together with him. Stay away from alcohol and drugs, kids. It will ruin your mind. What a waste of a life.

[@myguitardidyermom212]

Jokes on you, I don't have a mind

[@nobodysbaby5048]

I never give credence to the ex. They're biased. But, the video speaks for itself

[@chumuheha]

I think placing all the blame on alcohol and drugs is potentially reductive. A lot of people struggle with addiction but don't become cult leaders. I'm not a psychologist but it seems pretty obvious that Amy had narcissistic tendencies. That, with probably other undiagnosed mental issues is what caused her to be the way she was.

[@velvetbikes]

Drugs and alcohol are the attempt at ESCAPE, not the cause. She had problems before that. She showed classic signs of borderline personality disorder. She was attracted to abusive men. She just up and LEFT her children one day. The sheer fact she kept taking on men in her cult and calling them all 'Father' doesn't spell out 'daddy issues' any better. If you watch the documentary you can see they all have major abandonment issues and were creating their own realities to cope.

[@thecapricorn11]

recreational use doesn’t cause addiction

[@Rockshadow91]

The Hawaiian people claiming Pele set the fires mad me lose my crap. I just burst out laughing

[@MoonMoonTM]

“The woman’s body found fully decorated in Christmas lights” say what

[@Theturtleowl]

Part of me finds this hilarious. The rest of me finds it disturbing.

[@KateCarew]

Imagine being the newscaster reading that in the teleprompter 😂

[@tracieramson9151]

@@KateCarew was there a video camera for this story

[@pattihainline1573]

I still wanto know were the lights plugged in? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MellyVuong]

I love Hawaiian mythology/religion, and seeing this mad woman claiming herself to be the reincarnation of a well respected deity in the land just feels upsetting lol. It's like those 2014 FaceBook pages owned by teenagers who believe they're the lovechildren of Jack Frost and **insert another Disney/Pixar character here** pls 😭✋✋

[@thetwistedsamurai]

It’s so weird to see someone else I watch watching... someone else I watch. LOL

[@rylans.5365]

@Mourad Ben There is no religion associated with Hawaiian gods/goddesses

[@Hurrrdurrrrrrr]

@@rylans.5365 Christianity isn't a religion its just mythology. (Edit) indigenous religions are just as valid as any other religion.

[@newprojects7847]

The fact that you mentioned Jack Frost 😭😭😭 YOU MADE ME REMEMBER THINGS I HAVE FORGOTTEN

[@rylans.5365]

@Mourad Ben I'm not dumb. I'm from Hawaii, I'm Hawaiian, I know what I'm talking about. There is no Hawaiian religion. A lot of people, even non-religious people like me believe in some of the deities like Pele, Ku, Lono, etc.

[@abbywilson5988]

Just came back to watch this again after watching the HBO doc... It's so interesting how they really didn't include any of her abusive unhinged behavior. The whole thing was just... Sad. It's stunning how out of control one hippie with an addiction and mental illness can get if everyone enables it instead of helping her. 😔

[@sholem_bond]

"Pele has returned" had Pele ever left? Like, in her original Hawai'ian canon?

[@jordang7479]

That's exactly what I was thinking!!

[@anniel6479]

I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure she's never left. There's an urban legend that she still appears to people in the form of an old woman asking for cigarettes, so she can't have left.

[@Aurelius-bf3yx]

My understanding is that her home is still the Kīlauea Caldera

[@Motsuso]

Hi someone who was born and grew up in Hawaii (and I'm still here lol but I grew up on O'ahu) I haven't learned of any instances where Pele left in Hawaiian Mythology. But more of how she's still present lol. I'll list some urban legends/things related to her. On the big island (Hawaii) there's a thing called Pele's curse and it's that anyone who takes something from there would get bad luck until it's returned. Even taking something like a small rock counts. So every year tourists mail back a bunch of things they took from the big island and write letters about the misfortunes that followed them. 2nd one is what I heard from my mom growing up. But the urban legend is that Pele sometimes travels to each island disguised as an old woman in a white dress and asks strangers for help or for a ride. If you help her, she'll also help you out later. An example is her protecting that person. The version I heard was that she put a ring of leaves around the house of the person who helped her before she left. Later that day one of the active volcanoes had lava flow down into that area and all the other houses were destroyed except that house. Hope this kinda answers your question or was interesting!

[@radfarlander]

Don't call it a comeback. I been here for years.

[@Nadia1989]

I swear mountains attract the most "interesting" people. I don't know why, but they do, no matter which country you're talking about.

[@TubaDragoness]

They’re usually remote, which makes it a hassle for authorities to get out there. I’d imagine that’s a large draw.

[@rogueshadow7]

Nah its the views so pretty they drive u mad

[@Athen239]

I'm understanding Death Stranding a lot more.

[@charlieisacatwithseizures]

The altitude

[@231lghtwrkerbrntout]

😂

[@prophetessoftroy]

I never really figured being able to transport 3 large dogs would also prepare me for...mummy transportation. It’s so nice to have options.

[@allysmith2284]

Maybe you could take it up as a side gig?

[@35thrat]

i desperately hope all those animals and children are safe. what a monster, absolutely terrifying how much deprogramming has to be done over this cult

[@jamesdavidjett]

No. They are still insane

[@mcost4098]

the fact this wasn't even the weirdest part of the last year really says something about 2020/2021

[@veronicavatter6436]

Word

[@llchapman1234]

I didn't even hear about this group in the midst of the 2020-2021 madness 😳

[@mcost4098]

@@llchapman1234 Same! I had to rewind when she mentioned COVID to double check the dates!

[@emilypeduto981]

not even in the bloody top ten.

[@lindamaemullins5151]

😂😂👍

[@Ka_Malani]

2020 had a LOT of cults nest in Hawaii it was really crazy. Their was another one that bragged about being naked in front of children. They too were escorted off the island. Thank you for covering this. I’m Hawaiian and this really pissed of the locals.

[@carter3774]

This sounds so terrifying, to be around a cult and not be able to get away from them

[@jessicavandam7132]

😀

[@jessicavandam7132]

😀

[@sarahtaylor4264]

I'm so happy I left the islands in 2016. It seems like it has only gotten crazier since then.

[@tulasivaibhavi4246]

yep, its horrible. Its a lot of rich ‘spiritual’ white people forming new age cults of personalities while driving out the natives and causing prices to jack up.

[@punawelewele]

I'm from Hawaii. We've kicked multiple cults off this island but there are more who are good at being secretive. It will be regulated soon. We met Hells angels at the airport when they considered starting a chapter here. It didn't work out for them.

[@Lisaa3124]

what attracts so many there?? Is it the good weather

[@punawelewele]

@@Lisaa3124 That is a great question that needs an answer. I am not sure.

[@itwasagoodideaatthetime7980]

If it wasn't for the fact that I *LOVE* the cold & snow (yes I know people you think I'm weird. But I don't care & I embrace & love my 'weirdness' thank you.) I would *TOTALLY* move to Hawaii. The people there are not only the friendliest people in America I've *EVER* meet. They also have great respect for the environment & animals. Hawaiians are such awesome people! 🌺 🤗

[@catherinerickard699]

is it as perfect as it looks ?

[@punawelewele]

@@catherinerickard699 It's beautiful and I couldn't imagine myself living anywhere else, but it's definitely not perfect. We have our fair share of crime and corruption. And although it's usually sunny, the weather can be unpredictable. It's also kind of bittersweet for the native Hawaiians seeing as how the kingdom of Hawaii was overthrown and stolen by Britian and America. Nowdays property value here is so high that less and less native Hawaiians are able to afford homes.

[@annward7794]

That was very sad what you said at the end about her son not wanting this to continue on in her “honor” . Someone very dear to me is deep in the grips of a cult for over 8 years now, it’s enraging if I start to think about it.

[@katastrophe6460]

‘Goopy Woopy, Their Coming For Your Brand!!!’ is now going to be in my everyday language, thank you for bestowing this sentence upon us.

[@jimenasanchez7026]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpWxi3qYarJ3gcU .,.,.,.

[@ecas4315]

💀 I died

[@biggooeyyy]

💞

[@funeralmute3268]

I cannot get over how purple she was, especially her face. I've autopsied people who were highlighter yellow with jaundice down to the literal bones, embalmed green and red and grey decomposing remains, and seen faces deep purple with livor from laying funny post mortem, but I have never seen a LIVING person that purple. Gosh.

[@scorpion07070]

Really? Then you need to google a man named "Paul Karason". He ingested ALOT of colloidial silver and his skin was permanently turned smurf blue. He lived for many years like that.

[@allysmith2284]

Colloidal Silver FTW

[@childofgod6769]

@@scorpion07070 yes you are so right! That silver supplement will turn you purple. And I don’t think it’s safe for long turn consumption

[@the_tax_consultant]

Oooh are you a pathologist?

[@basedokadaizo]

Argyriaaaaa

[@SturgeonPilot]

Love that they basically just harrassed these dangerous idiots off the island (as they should have). One of the few protesting wins I feel like we've gotten lately.

[@scottricci5063]

I wouldn't want those crazy kooks in my backyard neither, but were they really that dangerous? It wasn't like they were killing people like other religions have. They weren't kidnapping folks like other religions have. They were starting wars like other religions have. They should just give these fucks their. Own dominion, like a deserted isle somewhere far from humanity and let them play Jesus or Pele or Cthulu all by them psychotic selves.Amen, the end🤘👹😇🤘

[@TwilightNecromancer]

@@scottricci5063 I..would argue that telling people to ingest colloidal silver could, indeed, be dangerous. Much like telling people to ingest Bleach for Covid.

[@mellie4174]

Ya i was super proud of the Hawaiians of handling the problem. Seems like most of the time we just turn a blind eye. Example, masks and vaccines. They are a minority but they're out causing all sorts of problems. Are we out making our opposing and majority voices heard? No. I keep thinking what to do about it but haven't come up with an answer. But the Hawaiians didn't wait. They just took care of it!

[@toothygrin9562]

@@scottricci5063 yes they were indeed dangerous. While researching them I learned that there are videos of them talking about the ways they punish their childeren. They were very abusive methods. I also saw footage of them abusing one of their members in particular. And a guy who used to be a part of their group was abandoned in the middle of a desert with no food or water. If I remember correctly they stabbed him before they left him there. If that cult were to grow any bigger it would be even more dangerous. And that isn't even mentioning the obvious abuse towards animals we saw footage of in this video.

[@christinemichele2318]

Hawaii has won!

[@orbitalwig8333]

"if it quacks like a cult" is actually my new favorite line

[@jlfuwafuwa]

There was a colloidal silver-consuming man in the town where I was raised. I saw him walking out of McDonalds one day. He actually forreal was a bluish grey.

[@drpibisback7680]

Argyria, caused by accumulation of silver in tissue (silver isn't digestible, it doesn't break down in the body). Not necessarily harmful, silver isn't toxic in normal doses and it's not been recorded as causing death in humans, but deeply unsettling given the resemblance to bloodless corpses and it never goes away.

[@AnnaCN78456]

Some politicians were promoting has a healing for Covid in Brazil.

[@FirstLast-po8oz]

@@AnnaCN78456 Silver is in some form antibacterial which is why it's associated with healing, like soap it does something to the physical form of the bacteria so there's no risk of developing resistance. It's used in those metal bathroom door handles and in old-timey ointments. I don't think it does anything to viruses but my college micro classes are a long way away. Eating it is like not productive. For some reason I see it recommended a lot for IBS/GI illnesses like crones and it's like the worst idea ever, the last thing you want to be doing is messing up your gut biome.

[@drpibisback7680]

@@FirstLast-po8oz Hucksters prey on the vulnerable. IBS and Crohn's cause a lot of discomfort and can't be cured, only managed, so they're prime targets for medical frauds because people suffering from those conditions _really, really_ want there to be a solution of some kind.

[@na-kuka-na]

@@drpibisback7680 @First Last Thanks for that input, you both added very good aspects and I just hope that conversations like this increase over the usual "you'll get better if you don't eat for a week/take silver/gold/sulphur/etc.". People in general tend to avoid the more tedious, preventive/reducive actions and especially when they are not the ones suffering from an chronic illness, like to suggest doing this-one-thing,simple life-hacks that fixes it. Kind regards, "IBS-suspecting if Chron's".

[@CagedTroll]

Jesus, first incarnation: “Bring me your poor, your sick, your destitute” Jesus, second incarnation: “I SAID BRING ME CHICKEN, NOT MEATBALLS”

[@abowlofsalad8812]

lmao

[@sarahgarcia3193]

This comment wins

[@Mothman_In_a_T-Pose]

I mean, to be fair, we've done a lot of fuckshit in the last 2000-odd years. If Jesus became a ragemonster, who's really to blame him?

[@OHYS]

I love this

[@SamSphinx]

@@Mothman_In_a_T-Pose He went berzerk in the temple, toppling the merchant installations once.

[@ericab513]

Is "sparkly sleeping bag mummy" this year's hot Halloween costume?

[@bakerfritz4681]

If you shop at Spirit Halloween it’s “SEXY Sparkly Sleeping Bag Mummy.”

[@MadHatta555]

I'm doing it idgaf about what anyone thinks that is way too funny to pass up 🤣

[@philliplinton6846]

Yes and at party City you can find the "sexy"version

[@ZachT]

Probably. I’m gonna continue my list of this year’s Halloween costumes. Another favorite of mine is “Cold Politician” complete with a coat, knitted mittens, and a mask. Now I’ll add “Essential Oils Mummy.”

[@jessicawyatt5675]

Yesssss

[@gracee234]

i just want to mention that i also heard that she wanted to go to the hospital near the end of her life and her followers wouldn’t let her because she made them promise they wouldn’t take her to the hospital

[@SopeV0point1]

Whenever I see someone being so nonchalantly abusive to an animal, it makes me feel cold, these people, they have no soul, they are inhuman.

[@BeYounique...Maryanne]

I couldn't even look at that part. Makes me cry just thinking of it.

[@levvy7879]

not inhuman, but very brainwashed...

[@Hollylivengood]

Humanly psychotic.

[@richt7525]

I love how the native Hawaiian population was rightly offended by her sacrilege and took action, yet most everyone else was pretty chill about her claiming to be a return of the Messiah. Maybe it's because of how often that happens? Don't fuck with Pele, though, her followers represent.

[@jennifershay8980]

I think it's also because of the difference of power/prominence when comparing the two religions. Hawaiian culture was banned by the colonizers, and many Hawaiians today are working tirelessly to preserve their culture. The same is true for most indigenous cultures/religions. Meanwhile Christianity is the world's largest and most powerful religion, and the one kind of responsible for the destruction of those indigenous cultures in the first place. So ya, there's a big difference between an outsider claiming to be a deity of an indigenous religion at risk of extinction vs someone claiming to be Jesus. It's a bit of a punching up vs punching down situation.

[@richt7525]

@Hank R. Hill Strickland Propane please tell me you’re joking… know what? Don’t. Stick with your several iterations of poorly mistranslated propaganda and idiot fuel. Baby Jesus and European-Judaean supremacy and all that there nonsense 🙄

[@wobinich2009]

@Hank R. Hill Strickland Propane second rate trolling. Not bad but still could use work.

[@vidyastuff3509]

I to fully support assaulting, vandalizing and committing arson against people I don't like. Drop your address Rich. Let's hang out.

[@richt7525]

@@vidyastuff3509 I don’t endorse violence against anyone. But I will laugh at it happening in an obvious and deserved manner to people that stupid. Play crazy white lady games with the wrong people, win crazy white lady prizes…

[@thestudio66]

The *Holy Mortician Mother* has uploaded again - *time to pray* .

[@AskAMortician]

"We are not a cult!" -Me

[@daydreameraj9777]

Amen 🙏🏻

[@johnlavery3433]

@@AskAMortician yeah, yeah, L Ron said the same thing

[@merrittanimation7721]

@@AskAMortician "I am not the messiah!" "Only the messiah would deny she is the messiah!"

[@jessicafoster2699]

Amen 🙏

[@Anubissia]

I was on that episode of Dr.Phil in the virtual audience and it was impossible to keep a straight face

[@evientually]

"Consistent with transporting a mummified body" sounds like not only seats laid down, but obviously in the case of THAT body, glitter. Corpse glitter. That shit's never coming out.

[@crimsonffire]

Best Just to burn the car, because your right they'll be finding glitter forever

[@Mdeaccosta]

@@crimsonffire I absolutely loved to "accidentally" put it on my oh, so dignified husband's face, the church ladies were big on that stuff, it was everywhere. My greatest triumph was a tiny glitter star on the end of his nose🤭

[@crimsonffire]

@@Mdeaccosta 🤣 oh I love it, I say he loves that, you should check out glitter beards so sparkly

[@Aconitum_napellus]

Corpse glitter is the name of my new Deathrock band.

[@alternativeprincess4783]

We spilled glitter once when we first moved into our last house, like the very first day, 3 years and 2 moves later and we're still finding it! I think it breeds...

[@080062wicked]

I really want to know if they used battery operated Christmas lights, or if they had to keep plugging her in everytime they moved 🤔 😅

[@jenniferjones8453]

Hey don’t forget to plug in mom? Or can someone change mom? Her batteries died! Idk which is more ridiculous

[@SophiaEuphia]

I am SCREAMING 😂

[@courtnaesmith6198]

🤣🤣🤣wtf??!!!

[@jbshiva865]

The police bodycam footage of them finding her corpse leaked, the lights looked like plug ins.

[@shadowmatrix0101]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@CosmicDimensionsArt]

Well now i'm just thinking about duck cults. Waddling around in their little robes and quacking in unison.

[@terrirobinson3876]

I knew I would find someone in the comments that had the save thoughts. I have visions of tiny tambourines.

[@ToniHinton]

@@terrirobinson3876 Their ducklings are born covered in saffron, so I think you're on to something.

[@DenitaArnold]

The Cult of Daffy. I can dig it

[@thejudgmentalcat]

You need to see James Veitch's "The One About the Ducks" video 🦆🦆🦆

[@madeleinellis2050]

I will sign up

[@arieljade1291]

She was preserved with Colloidal Silver and they kept wondering why her body kept giving off electric waves. The woman looked like preserved wood before she died. The whole group is nuts and need to be held accountable.

[@majorica_pearls2526]

It’s really hard to see her being cruel to that cat. 😣

[@ritapreston7129]

She also locked cult members children in a closet for discipline. Dr. Phil showed it.

[@SpukiTheLoveKitten75]

Truly nasty. Anyone who's mean to those wondrous fur-babies has no soul. Also; Kitties have always been known as wise, magickal creatures and ancient Egyptians worshiped them as Deities. Never piss off Pele nor Bast & Sekhmet!

[@shiaseedsalad2726]

I know :'( that really hurt my soul

[@DenitaArnold]

Yeah, me, too. I wanted to smack her for that

[@SpukiTheLoveKitten75]

@@DenitaArnold I'm amazed this weirdo had a following. I have to wonder about someone who sees a video of a shrieking drunken harpy and her loser jerkass squeeze being jerks to everyone and think, "Wow! How noble and enlightening! I must worship theeeem!".

[@sarahvruwink3027]

Being a fan of Caitlin has really helped me navigate death plans with my family as we deal with my young niece’s terminal illness. We’ve been able to have respectful, straight forward conversations about what we each feel is appropriate and come up with plans in advance of her passing. A small comfort for everyone in a difficult situation. Thank you Caitlin, you’ve been a huge help.

[@classicambo9781]

I can't imagine going through that with my nephew. Sending you best hopes it is a painless end and celebratory occasion later.

[@StonerOfGotham]

I'm sorry about what you're going through.

[@allisonjames2923]

So sorry you, your niece & her other loved ones are facing that. That must be tough

[@lisaenglert3202]

I’m so sorry. ❤️

[@misterminutes4504]

Thoughts and prayers, hope y'all are doing alright. ( Omg I sound like a white christian mom 🤣 if you're white I'm sorry, you know what I mean )

[@MsMollysvideos]

This is Caitlin when she dgaf about neutrality. "Mother" did it, she made Caitlin throw down the gauntlet. I love it.

[@krisalvarez3784]

100%

[@thomaswills1204]

I actually had a video call with this lady. I was new to spirituality and found myself neck deep in new age crap about 15 years ago. She creeper me out and was a large part of why I got out of the "new age" type of spirituality. There's a interview with a few of her followers on Dr Phil if you want more info

[@Nick-ue9um]

How long was your session and what happened that made it super creepy? I just found out about this lol

[@michaelfarrell7161]

Um, Dr. Phil? Like he’s not a cult leader.

[@camillehenley5238]

"we're not a cult" she says, leading the order of the good death (a great cult name if i ever heard one) and calling us her deathlings...lol

[@kuromyou7969]

But our thoughts/behavior isn't controlled. So not a cult.

[@camillehenley5238]

@@kuromyou7969 it's a joke

[@kuromyou7969]

@@camillehenley5238 I know she meant it as a joke. Your comment cane across like you didn't think as such. I apologize for misinterpreting.

[@marocat4749]

It a joke cult. or ust a catchy name

[@A-No-One]

Fans can be cultish. Worshipping mere mortals too. That word is short for fanatics.

[@HappyLilac16]

Colorado charging Love Has Won with abusing a corpse feels a bit like when Al Capone got charged with tax evasion.

[@LucianCorrvinus]

That's ok Death got her in the end....thats alls that matters...recycling is everything...

[@Zee-iv9oe]

@KtheBae i was literally thinking this

[@grayreid7392]

The second she mentions a white woman claimed she was Pele: "Oooooh, they done fucked up." XD

[@DreamBelief]

yet everyone seems perfectly cool with jesus being portrayed as a white dude...

[@grayreid7392]

He really shouldn't but the white narritive is too powerful, tbh. Until enough mono-theistics like Christians, Catholics, and the like are willing to recognize the truth.

[@historyarmyproductions]

@@grayreid7392 Well, the truth based on geography. There isn't any real evidence that Jesus existed, no grave, no DNA. In my mind at least.

[@TheBrainSpecialist]

I heard there is a legend on Hawaii that Pele takes the form of a older white woman asking for booze and smokes, and if you refuse your house will be swept away in the next eruption. So not totally impossible that she thought it applied to her.

[@luciferislucid]

@@historyarmyproductions historical evidence shows Jesus was an actual living person, but its hard to know if he was the "SON OF GOD" as the bible claims.

[@sephardiris]

Honestly, the fact that she was mummified by her followers is not even the creepiest and most infuriating fact about that whole cult.

[@KTCC13]

As a Hawaiian I never really looked into this story, only heard others talking about it. But watching this it made me laugh when they were saying “Pele has returned” and I’m over here laughing because....you guys, she never left. Auwe! 😂

[@bhurley808]

I laughed too. She is still very present here in Hawaiʻi.

[@chasejames1782]

Lovehaswon is such a wholesome name for a group that would probably hate crime me

[@Fuchswinter]

Isn't that case for several Christian charities?

[@np1056]

I absolutely hate when groups (cough cults) like this try to ride the coattails of human rights organizations when they are actively taking away human rights on a daily basis. *NO*

[@throhuhwai12]

@@TahtahmesDiary I mean... you wouldn't call terfs real Feminist would you? I assume in every group there's still are people who won't follow the core of their ideals.

[@nooneinparticular469]

Oh yeah. Every group that gets uppity about how much they love you has some issues. The Jehovah’s Witnesses love you. They just want to scream at you until you’re straight enough to go to heaven. Mormons are super accepting of every lifestyle. As long as it’s the very specific lifestyle they condone.

[@sto1238]

Lmfao that is a pretty accurate way of describing them

[@musicalmouse2398]

As rediculous as hearing "she was wrapped in a sleeping bag and Christmas lights" sounds, seeing the cop cam of it is... Actually terrifying

[@nickicouture7297]

Where can I see this ?

[@musicalmouse2398]

@@nickicouture7297 there's probably a better website somewhere but I don't remember the exact one I used.

[@confuseacat4451]

@@nickicouture7297 just searched: body cam - love has won and found it through youtube.

[@nickicouture7297]

@@confuseacat4451 thanks. I’m gonna check it out

[@steven_baconbits]

The description of christmas lights was a f##$ing understatement...the only thing missing was a trailer park.

[@lisaia7877]

I remember I paid her for a session 5 years ago when I was younger and more gullible and delusional. For as delusional as I was about things back then I knew something was off with her during the session and I never contacted her again afterwards. Probably shouldn’t say it was full delusion. I was exploring and creating my world view and understanding back then and dabbled in a lot.

[@Thevintagebootgirl]

Didn’t get further into it**

[@vermilliongecko]

I'm so glad that you followed your gut instinct and cut communication with her.

[@somethingillregret]

"Goopie Woopie, Gwenie, she's coming for your brand!"- I absolutely lost it.

[@dortesandal4303]

Same here, golden!

[@burushifudara]

I don't get it

[@phyonnaigrave9599]

@@burushifudara gwenyth paltro has a holistic brand named goop that sometimes gets called a cult

[@Mambo1061]

You know you’re a longtime Deathling when the beginning headlines about keeping a corpse adorned with Christmas lights in one’s home don’t faze you at all

[@bearsbeetsbattlestargalactica6]

Just another day on the ask a mortician side of KZbin

[@aderi31415]

For me, it was the other way around. I saw the headlines a few days ago and have been waiting for the video to come out.

[@misterminutes4504]

I'm not a long time deathling, I just know that some people are weirder than me and I accepted that fact 😌✨

[@weirdral]

I saw one video of her having a toddler locked in a closet because they were crying and she didn't want to deal with the child. It was horrifying.

[@allisonjames2923]

She definitely didn’t seem like the all loving airy fairy mother she claimed to be! Far from it

[@melindaroop1346]

Where the hell was the childs mother? She would have died a lot sooner if that was my baby.

[@weirdral]

@@melindaroop1346 I have no idea, I had to click off the video because it was so upsetting. She had another member lock the child in the closet. There was another YT channel that did a deep dive into the cult and that's where the video was.

[@michaw.2168]

@@weirdral could you please add a name for the youtuber with the deep dive? I wish you a very good Sunday!!

[@rookmaster7502]

@@melindaroop1346 The child's mother was quite possibly one of the cult members.

[@coriknight9073]

Thank you for how you handled the complications inherent in the word "cult," as well as the trauma that can arise from losing loved ones to groups like this one. This is a tough topic, but this was handled beautifully.

[@chairmannom9507]

The second I saw her lift that poor kitty, I felt pure rage pulse through my veins

[@jadenjessejim4evr]

same! I have never had my mood switch from mild interest to blind fury so quickly lol

[@gypsysnickerdoodle4354]

“don’t fuck with cats”

[@geegeep]

Same. Don't fuck with cats because cat people are devoted and will hunt you down

[@sherrybirchall8677]

That was just a short snippet. I saw the longer version. It is so much more upsetting.

[@themrsnilla]

They ate that cat after a group of neighbors tried to rescue it. The neighbor group was able to get their dogs to a safe new home though.

[@Nursepractitionerd]

Colloidal silver taken orally turns you literally blue gray. Permanently. Don’t do that. Ever. And that side eye at Goop. 😂😂😂

[@darkangel076]

"Just because most of us wouldn't want to be a sparkly sleeping bag mummy..." Well, I mean...when you put it that way...

[@LoneStarWomanInACajunWorld]

Well yes, any type of group where the leader or leaders deny you food or sleep is indeed a cult. She had them people pretty intraped mentally to put up with her abusive treatment. I honestly believe they were doing exactly what she said to do with her corpse as a dying wish. I suggest if possible, the people that got arrested to receive counseling to try helping them? I don't know. The whole thing is really crazy.

[@avivagodfrey]

"Leaving behind her husband, two kids, and her job...as a manager at McDonalds." Well that explains everything.

[@jimenasanchez7026]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpWxi3qYarJ3gcU .,.,.,.

[@aliencat11]

And her mom was doing some strande drugs before she was born.

[@ajcarr1965]

My thoughts exactly.

[@dididothat2245]

Thank goodness she did those children a favor! I’m still sorry they lost their mom...bc, that’s their mom. But CLEARLY she was toxic. I hope her kids can go on to have healthy, productive lives and not have their mother’s “legacy” come anywhere near them.

[@justindunlap1235]

Just as the Oracle foretold

[@SAmaryllis]

That response about Pele setting the fires surprised a laugh out of me, bless

[@misterminutes4504]

It's Pele. * Snaps finger *

[@moimen06]

The mummy joke had me cackling 🤣

[@jennifer7685]

Ever notice it’s the people who talk about love and respect the most that don’t really exemplify their meaning?

[@dddrones]

When you have ppl bending to your every will, it seems to be kind of hard to resist being an asshole. Cult leaders prove that again and again.

[@sangerzonnvolt6712]

Well I don't trust anyone who talks about love respect and God because they are most likely an asshole and I'm not going to stick my neck out.

[@private755]

The fact that self proclaimed “mom” became “mummy” is kind of delicious irony if you ask me lol

[@WelfareChrist]

I live in Honolulu, honestly there's something about the islands that attracts cults, there's like around 10 in Honolulu and Kailua alone, its insane. It probably has to do with it being an isolated tropical paradise, a kind of promised land or Zion that's also the most isolated archipelago on the planet. I dunno, something about this place really draws the 'religious alternative' crowd.

[@Kimmie6772]

It's because it's the most percieved "untouched land of natural beauty" new age cultists can think of. That and it's exotic enough that information about beliefs gets put through the misinformation pipeline and theres more suspension of disbelief in something that sounds more like a fairytale than something you're familiar with. The more new and less tangible the better. Using learning about it as a luring tactic.

[@leopardshadow333]

Have to second the "untouched" myth, also it could have something to do with the complete lack of education about hawaii in many american schools. I suspect its easier to romanticize a place when the omly paragraph they get in your history book is just about the colonizers

[@jbshiva865]

It's because it's a 'convenient paradise' for cults to establish a base. It's a tropical paradise that is romanticized in American culture, and it's isolated compared to the mainland. BUT it's also legal US territory so you don't need to even get a passport to get you and your followers to the islands. You just need some cash for the plane tickets and to either rent or buy property for a compound (and money is something cults ALWAYS have). Plus, with America's lax laws regulating religions and little to no taxes on their money, even a cult of around 20+ people can scrounge up enough cash to get to the Hawaiian Islands. But as we saw, STAYING on the islands is a lot harder than it looks. Especially since the locals aren't going to put up with a bunch of BS from Love Has Won, or the Carbon Nation, or any one number of cult groups that try to set up shop.

[@michellecornum5856]

I live where they found her, and yeah, we have the same New Age/Old Hippy/Cult problem here. People come here because it is so (insert romanticized crap here). A lot of people think they can get away with stuff here, too, "Because Mayberry" (no offense to Mayberry) and they think that because it is so rural, they can do whatever. They can't. What they don't realize is that we are actually more of a fishbowl and everybody knows everybody's business (which, I guess IS very Mayberry, after all.) That's why the cops were able to identify the remains themselves. The only place worse than here for this romanticized-natural-beauty-that-attracts-weirdos-and others-who-don't-need-to-move-here crap is Taos, and that is way too -- nearby -- as well.

[@wirelesmike73]

They caught and arrested Lori Vallow and her creepy cult husband there after her children went missing. It must be the whole "Garden of Eden" vibe of the tropics that draws those narcissistic psycho types.

[@shrimpyalfredo3933]

"Goopy Woopy, theyre coming for your braaand!" God, that made me crack up

[@PurpleNothing]

I FREAKING DIED 🤣🤣💀💀💀

[@MusicalK93]

I came here to find this comment as I was sure I wasn't the only one rolling! 🤣

[@Twilarose77]

"Mother God had become Mummy God." Me: *scowls at the pun while hitting the like button* XD, how I have missed you!

[@jameshunt1444]

Great video, as usual! I just watched the Love Has Won doc on Max. The mental gymnastics people do to let themselves be absorbed into a cult is mindblowing.

[@delphinedelphinedelphine]

"We are not a cult".... we just have a charismatic leader who talks incessantly about how we're all going to die and we all need to confront this and also wrote some books about it and has a number of memorable catchphrases. Just kidding! We love you and your team, Caitlin. Hope you are all getting some rest :*

[@pamela5250]

The Cult of Caitlyn! I’m in 😂😂

[@Zal1810]

@@pamela5250 me too! where do i sign?

[@Uncle_Spooky]

Don’t forget we send her money too. 👀

[@victoriawilliams2786]

We are her Deathlings don't forget!

[@midgey50]

The joy i found in “its a sparkly mummy, we can’t have this”. Joy really does come in the most unexpected of places.

[@kedeglow2743]

"And her father,....................was Donald Trump!" You are officially THE Grand Mistress-of-Keeping-a-Straight-Face-While-Delivering-a-Hilarious-Line!

[@tracieramson9151]

Trump ia the Anti christ or One of gia Lil Demons

[@Bettina8987]

Caitlin is awesome

[@magiegainey5036]

Ok, I’m rewriting my will. I want to be wrapped in Christmas lights, and I want them on twinkle mode.

[@ilovesoiboiboobies]

This is my favorite story ever. It’s got everything, cults, mummies, publicly unhinged delusional narcissists…reality is truly stranger then fiction.

[@tinydarkjewel]

Smurfs, even. It truly has got everything.

[@rheanathan4189]

I read that in Stefan's voice

[@ethanahmu6149]

Everything you listed sounded like something Stefon from SNL would use to describe “New York’s Hottest Club is...” hahaha.

[@ethanahmu6149]

@@rheanathan4189 omg I’m glad I wasn’t the only one lol.

[@willrizer1644]

Once again, Caitlyn bringing us the most recent ICONIC CORPSE

[@jimenasanchez7026]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpWxi3qYarJ3gcU .,.,.,.

[@Sssssssslf]

this is no iconic corspe

[@zCREz]

"Mom is a NO on drugs!" Mom: **massive bong rip** Totally **cough** far out, dude...

[@supernovaskies5044]

also alcohol is a drug so, sure Jan

[@mikdan8813]

Don't panic, it's organic

[@JaiAutumn94]

"what a horrible way to gain followers! anyway! please like and subscribe!" YOU HAVE ME LAUGHING SO HARD! like the whole video has me laughing "IT WAS PELE!" DUDE 🤣

[@sirpiddlefartiii]

Her ex posted a really heartwarming video, a slideshow, of Amy before she lost her mind. He said she was a kind person and didn't know this person she had turned into. It's a really sad story cos he seemed so much in love with her. Alcoholism is awful.

[@jeanmbt_neko]

nonononono it is not alcoholism that is the problem, is her personality and also his. Stop romanticising and excusing abusive and toxic behaviour.

[@seraph511]

@@jeanmbt_neko Alcoholism really can ruin people's personalities. You can be a good person, then your loved ones can see you turn into a horrible abusive person because of alcoholism. You don't have to be a bad person in the beginning of your life to become a bad person by the end of it.

[@chaos_chiara5137]

@@jeanmbt_neko i wouldn’t say they were romanticizing or excusing any of her behaviors, it seems he was showing everyone what kind of person she was because he had loved what she used to be and not the person she become.

[@amberkat8147]

I wonder if her cancer metastasized to her brain- brain tumors can radically alter a person's personality.

[@jeanmbt_neko]

I don't believe someone who tortures animals like that and a lot of other stuff she did would do it only because of alcoholism, which normally is more a symptom than a cause for this kind of personality and behaviour. Maybe she didn't show publicly before but cared less when under alcohol influence.

[@charlesherbig4502]

“The Mother God had become the Mummy God. 😬 I’m sorry for that joke.” Narrator: “She was not sorry for that joke.”

[@ab7567]

And I’m not sorry she told it, might have watched it again to see the smirk grow lol

[@superneonbuck]

It can't go into why, as it's very personal, but I would like to thank you for saying that losing a loved one to a cult is a "form of death". Many of us carry that silent grief around with us every day. It really means a lot to have that acknowledged.

[@kierafinneke5828]

I had to leave my whole family as they are involved in one and I decided to leave. When it came to that conclusion, I was devastated for weeks. I still feel incredibly isolated from the world, constantly in mourning. I feel for everyone in my shoes, or similar shoes.

[@danieljordan2442]

@@kierafinneke5828 You got this, you’re a badass, keep going!