Is it Love or Abuse of Power? Shadow and Archetype in TELL THEM YOU LOVE ME

[@majalikar3320]

"It's okay to say "it's complex" " - such an important statement for our times! Thank you for a great discussion that taps into so many different issues!

[@rebekkahaascetin3733]

What an interesting and intelligent conversation about a thought provoking film. All aspects and point of views are valid and true. What is the false life? Perhaps only the life unlived, not having tasted all the flavors and pains? The poem read by Joseph Lee, for me, came the closest to the mystery that we are being offered here (what’s the title of it and the author?). The error would be, to think we know the truth. That’s the power of the film, it confronts us with the mystery, the not controllable. The magic synergy that can emerge between two people as molecules collide far beyond explicit language is a mystery that is ultimately beyond the grip and judgement of outsiders and bystanders. Thank you all for so much for outstanding content!

[@noellecuisine8912]

Amazing episode ❤! Deep, fractal…. And this amazing reading of that myth that resonates in humanity still today just like in Romeo & Juliet ….how reverberated/ echoing through time and cultures….

[@yootoob1001001]

Very thought-provoking and informative look at a very complex topic. I think the curiosity you all mention is so important as is remembering that understanding is not the same as agreeing, condoning, or excusing and that even when we are against something, there is something valuable gained in understanding the opposite position on complicated or hot-button issues.

[@GohaAesop-wellmet]

Recent visitor to this site, have only seen 3 or 4 episodes, but this one was sooo impressive. Thank you!⭐🌹💗

[@SleepyLeeeee]

An important episode on so many levels. I have a lot to say on this subject but I will spare you the book in your comment section lol. Thanks so much!

[@QuironTarô]

OMG! What a great episode. I needed to see the movie before watch this episode. Many archetypical layers: power complex & mother complex (devouring mother) walking hand in hand. Anima and Animus projection, savior complex, scapegoat complex (shadow and evil), participation mistique, (paradise) many religious dogmas about sexuality, purity, innocence. My mind is blowing up 😯 In Tarot language we'd talk about the Hierophant and Devil axis both with their shadows and lights aspects.

[@ConstantGardener-q9q]

Wow. Fascinating. I have not seen the documentary. Nevertheless, the takeaway from this conversation of falling in love with a facet of yourself through projection AND understanding that symbolically is so helpful for me at this moment. Thank you.

[@gwendolynmurphy9563]

"Wretches & Jabberers" (2011) In 'Wretches & Jabberers and Stories from the Road', two men with autism embark on a global quest to change prevailing attitudes about disability and intelligence. With limited speech, Tracy Thresher, 42, and Larry Bissonnette, 52, both faced lives of mute isolation in mental institutions or adult disability centers. When they learned as adults to communicate by typing, their lives changed dramatically. Their world tour message is that the same possibility exists for others like themselves. At each stop, they dissect public attitudes about autism and issue a hopeful challenge to reconsider competency and the future. Along the way, they reunite with old friends from the USA, expand the isolated world of a talented young painter and make new allies in their cause.

[@EarInn]

Your perspectives really added a lot to the topic. A good direction for TJL. And we're treated to a myth told by Joseph as well.

[@vixenxiiineutral]

I love this channel 💜

[@treezydcm]

This episode was amazing. I want to watch this doc now

[@gwendolynmurphy9563]

WOW! Big thumbs up. You can't make this stuff up! Bravo!

[@c7eye]

I need to see this Film.

[@Tamaraisalive]

Thank you so much for this conversation. 🙏

[@vitanova44]

This was brilliant. I watched the film maybe halfway through your podcast. It made me think of a discussion I had last week around desire and AIs, which has been in the news increasingly, people falling in love with AIs. An artist who did one of the earliest interactive AI bot media pieces told me that the programmer she worked with fell in love with the bot. I love how this opens up to larger questions of passion and who is the object of that passion, do they exist beyond our projections. Even in "real" life. One thread of the movie I would have been very interested in you talking about was Anna's relationship with her own mother. How she was exposed to the typing interventions as a child, assisting and witnessing her mother's attempts to communicate with others that way. How she was raised in an environment that focused on disability. How the mother repeatedly in the film says Anna did nothing wrong. Seems like there was a secondary mother complex going on.

[@Prudenthermit]

Thank you ❤

[@PeterGregoryKelly]

I haven't seen the film but have heard of the case before. I'd have to honest about being sceptical of the technique. Regardless of its validity there is the question of the therapist - client relationship, even if both parties are competent.

[@ACraig-og8tn]

Excellent episode! Thank you.

[@212bellota]

Wow! At the start of this, I kept hearing ‘Honest Doublefield’ - I thought, wow that’s a really interesting name for this character! Then realised it’s Anna Stubblefield. 😮

[@advandepol7537]

1:03:50 How many men were in love with Marilyn Monroe, Brigitte Bardot, Madonna etc. You can't deny that sexual attraction plays a role in it, and not just projection of the anima.

[@jmh1080]

When a person behaves as was expected by the abuser, they are able to act in anyway and choose the behavior that will result in the abusers satisfaction or frustration as an expression of their own will and freedom. It is inappropriate to call the behavior of a person the projection of the abuser.

[@noellecuisine8912]

And how indeed it is complex …. And what it takes to cultivate that innermost space / vision/ embrace where to hold things lightly yet seriously with true curiosity…..

[@c7eye]

WOW…..

[@sterlgirlceline]

🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🏆👸👸🤴💛

[@Manoah0952]

Maybe she projected her unintergrated animus

[@nerostraysinger3295]

This method sounds just like using a Ouija board and one person takes over control of the planchette.