Is It Time For These NHL Teams To Panic?

[@_Kakoosh]

If you’re a red wings fan and this defense doesn’t concern you, then you’re either in denial or a very casual viewer.

[@casewojo6186]

The defense is blatantly awful. The special teams is an obvious issue too. I really am getting blashill vibes from uncle fester. The line blender is so counter intuitive to team chemistry.

[@tylerfrisbie222]

It's Mo and 4 1/2 pylons. That's it. If Simon can progress awesome. But then it's Simon and Mo and the 4 pylons. The left side is abysmal.

[@kanetyler4399]

It’s so bad. Bottom 5 unit in the league. This team is picking top 10.

[@ShiyaBolton]

Ben Chiarot is not a top pairing defenseman period.

[@Kwritter66]

100% - when training camp started and we still had Petry, Chariot and Holl in the lineup I knew our season was going to be a dumpster fire. When half your defense is AHL caliber you will not be winning many games. Especially when we still have a goaltending carousel.

[@StickinAroundHockey]

Saw a stat that the Rangers are 10-1-2 in the last 13 against Detroit, so the fact that they are 1-3 this season concerns me less than the average person. 2 losses against the Rangers who Detroit were likely to lose against anyways, and they should have won one of them if it weren't for Igor. I'll start to panic if they continue losing against teams that aren't cup contenders. Last game was horrendous though 😂

[@torrey88]

As a Wings fan, I was deeply concerned the whole offseason, so I’m not surprised. My expectations are being met.

[@Wheelofthyme1010]

It must suck having to roast your team like that. But it is the truth. I was pretty disappointed with their offseason, and I wanted them to try and push for playoffs, but it looks like they’ll probably miss the playoffs again.

[@jwt6577]

The worst part is in typical fashion they'll trip over their egos and be just good enough to ruin their draft pick in a stupid effort to "save" Lalonde.

[@davidkruse4030]

@@BurtTurbowell they did go all in. They traded away players and spent to the cap

[@seanr.6596]

They’re 2-3. There are 77 more games. Chill

[@Wheelofthyme1010]

@@seanr.6596 I’m just saying they didn’t do anything that makes me think they’ll make the playoffs, but anything could happen.

[@BigVuVu]

Day 5000 of trusting the yzerplan 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@seanr.6596]

Good one

[@JBTriple8]

The Wings like The Lightning are winning the Cup without Him.

[@Haboobz66]

@@JBTriple8Bolts fans love him regardless.. He built it

[@jonah.donohue]

Rebuilds take forever goon

[@BigVuVu]

@@jonah.donohue lmao if you say so, keep trusting the yzerplan

[@kanetyler4399]

Chiarot, Hull, Copp. That’s why we can’t afford ghost and had to trade Walman. Yzerman thinking what we had could work was pretty stupid.

[@davidkruse4030]

Holl

[@kanetyler4399]

True brother I’m getting old. It’s tough watching a bad team. I promise I’ll start getting names right when we stop screwing around.

[@mattwelch2470]

Pretty sure Copp won today's game or maybe it was Hull.

[@JackConrad-e4v]

Holl didn’t play in the game against Nashville. Copp had two goals nothing crazy but in the right place. Lyon played great. Kasper did well for his first game.

[@JackConrad-e4v]

Ghost was affordable. I think it was due to wanting Trouba. Which didn’t pan out. Copp is an adequate player. Just not for 5 mil. Chiarot is just fine. Holl and Husso are complete trash tho. Walman I still believe there was some off ice drama. Detroit gave away a second round pick to move walman for free. To a team with bad defense. There was absolutely something off ice we all don’t no about.

[@254zero]

As a buffalo fan, I just want 1 fucking video from a non fan channel going "holy shit sabres are awesome right now" it's embarrassing being a fan of this joke of a franchise every single year

[@carlosalvador98]

how ive felt as a canucks fan for sooo long until last year when we finally got good again

[@jacksonsandell1625]

Annunen literrally had a .928 and 8-4-1 record last year and looked much better than Georgiev. For some damn reason Bednar REFUSES to play Annunen. He's 4 inches taller than Georgiev as well. Annunen has yet to get a fair chance this season.

[@JBTriple8]

yeah he cant gain expierence behind the Bench

[@Maria_Banks]

Seriously, he hasn’t started a game. He’s just been thrown in to try and stop the bleeding

[@tomblade]

That's definitely a head scratcher. He can't be worse than Georgiev so why not try it?

[@davidmills5286]

agreed i felt like annunen might be a potential long term plan. But the development doesnt look like that's the plan. Probably more known behind closed doors. Fingers crossed we have a strong november with some potential returning players.

[@christyouredumb956]

Because as tight as they are to cap you can’t have that much money on the bench and with him being a. Head case he can’t gain trade value

[@dylan3893]

I think Nashville has played pretty well for the most part. Theyve got brand new lines for everyone, and 2 brand new PP units; most people should've expected them to get off to a slow start but I think they'll be fine

[@thatonewriter8043]

I knew after those signings that people were going to panic over Nashville, simply because the expectations were in the stratosphere. I'm sure they'll still make the playoffs. What happens beyond that gets a big ol' shrug from me this far out. Only one team actually gets to hoist the Cup at the end of the year.

[@eliaminator2313]

the fact that Colorado lost to Boston and Boston started Fourpisalo is a big concern. I get they have a few big guys with injuries but their depth is horrible rn

[@brisioso]

I mean, no shit? When you’re as injured as they are (4 of their top 6 and their 2nd best d-man out) your actual “depth” is forced to play up in the lineup and you’re left with your 5th/6th lines playing; There’s only so many injuries a team can eat before it just becomes a shit show. RossCo, Kovalenko, and LOC making up line 3 instead of all being hard top 6 guys would be a godsend, along with guys like Ritchie, Kelly, and Steinberg playing in the leagues they actually belong in

[@RC-tm8jo]

"Low Energy" Lalonde. That's what we like to call him.

[@quackingplatypus]

My brain read this comment in Trump’s voice. 😂 “Low energy Lalonde. Everybody says so. They look at his energy, and they say “wow, that’s some low energy.”

[@RC-tm8jo]

@quackingplatypus Hahaha 😆. That's actually how it was intended and that is impressive that you caught that. I remembered one of his first nicknames before the 2016 election was for Jeb Bush during the primaries. He called him "Low Energy" Jeb. At one of the debates, he complimented Jeb and told him that he had more energy that night 😆.

[@jasonbrowning6034]

Holl, Petry, and Gustafson and anchors. Two years ago, Maata was a healthy scratch and the odd man out. Now he is a regular and at least you know what you'll get... stay at home defense, and he at least tries until the buzzer sounds.

[@casewojo6186]

6 years into the “Yzerplan” and I feel we’re no closer than we were 3 years ago. It’s a bad feeling. Especially when Kaner is invisible. Lalondes line comps are horrible and the team comes out looking uninspired and frankly, I’m really tired of it.

[@thestifmyster1]

Cap.

[@davidkruse4030]

@@thestifmyster1no cap

[@edited1325]

I said before the season that the wings and Sabres are in I’ll believe it when I see it territory They don’t get the benefit of the doubt anymore

[@mariovaccarella6854]

Great Video, as usual, Nyquist

[@chrishaughton1747]

Steve said it will be a long, painful road, and last year was improvement. It's a rough start this year, but it's just October. Look if the Leafs can still be making early exits and believe that the cour four can still get it done, then the Wings can have a few more years of rebuild.

[@TheRealCimarron]

As a preds fan I think we’ll get it together eventually like we did last season once we figure out what works with the new players. I’m concerned for the Ava and the wings tho

[@nickh4354]

They've been playing pretty good for the most part. Just gotta hit the shots that are close (i see 10+ posts / complete robberies by the goalie on them every game) and for christs sake play harder after they score. They give up 1 or 2 goals within 2 minutes of scoring themselves all the time and i hate it

[@PigeonholePrinciple]

I give up on the Sabres. Nothing they do works. They can’t even meet the lowest of expectations. There is no panic. Only apathy. Nobody cares anymore.

[@koz9682]

Thank you for being the only realistic Red Wings fan I’ve come across

[@matthewkilbride1669]

Bit of an aside, but seems like the early vibes from Columbus and they'll be more competitive than expected. Plus, they're full of young guys. Only gonna get better

[@butcherpete2286]

You know I wasn't one to say "Nashville had a terrific off season, they're gonna be conference finals bound" like a lot of other people were. But I didn't think it'd be this rough to start. Also, as a Caps fan that had to sit through all the "they don't belong here, Detroit should be here, they fluked their way in" talk in the playoffs last season (while I was pointing out that Detroit was IN a playoff spot like 2 months before hand and pissed it away) its nice to see them off to a slower start compared to the caps. **I'll caveat that by saying, it's still early in the year. Anything before 10 games is not a great predictor of the season as a whole**

[@guavaburst]

I hated seeing Walman go.

[@davidkruse4030]

Well I do now knowing it was all for not

[@davidreames384]

naught...

[@saschaganser9671]

As a german DET fan, i`m missing the Oilers in this count. But lets start with Red Wings. Played NYR twice, a really strong team and lost to the pens. Won agains the Preds. The D looks aweful, as aweful as the cap table. Husso is a cap grave, while Talbot / Lyon isn`t a strong tandem. Plenty of UFA signings / trades look bad. Holl 3,4m*2 - lot of money for a pylon. Maatta, Petry can`t stabilize this D, Chiarot was always light and shadows. Edvinsson and Johansson are not the players to rely on yet, they will need to grow. Tarasenko has a singe goal in 4 games, Copp is the same, doesn`t do much for 5,6m cap. I don`t know any DET fan that was optimistic for the season, a 20 year old Kasper can`t be Jesus. The Yzerplan has failed, most of the veterans he got do not bring it, and the wings are stuck next year with the same subpar players. It reminds me a lot on Peter Chiarellis Oilers. There`s talent, it`s signed at reasonable contracts, but most the vets are overpaid underperformers.

[@swype6233]

I think y’all will be fine it’s tough when you face the rangers twice they’re contenders and will be tough to get points against. Now I’m a buffalo fan there’s a ton for us to be concerned about team is in shambles and we just lost to the blue jackets it’s a long season. Keep the hope alive until after game like 15-20 then after that, unless something drastic happens, that’s probably the team you’re gonna get for the remainder of the season and time to worry

[@Jowstir]

The only good thing this season for the wings is mo seider is looking like a beast avg 6.25 hits per game avg 3.75 blocks per game and 3 points in 4 games

[@saschaganser9671]

Nash could be what STL was during their cup year. Plenty of new additions, they might need some time to get it together. They have a elite goalie who will bounce back, and a really good D in front. Their scoring will come. No panic. Buffalo i would panic. Young team that seems to be in trouble and i don`t see a player or veteran to turn it around. They have no leader, everyone is 20-24, and i doubt Tage Thompson is the go to guy. Lot of talent in the team, almost everyone is a 1st or 2nd round pick, but they seem to miss a lot.

[@saschaganser9671]

Avs: The goalie situation and injuries would worry me. That`s not an easy fix. They pley well, but if you can`t get a stop, just look at the Oilers season start last year. If Georgiev doesn`t get a grip, who you play? Kahkonen? Annunen?

[@ChilagaBlackHawks]

Halloween hockey. Give everybody 10-12 games to see where we're all at.

[@andrewthompson6453]

Ottawa 3-2-0 and beating the Lightning 5-4 in a great game by Batherson and with Ullmark missing his third game, they are just gonna get better

[@justguy6338]

The avs come out of the gate sluggish pretty much every year. People were saying fire Bednar after ten games a few years ago and then they won the cup. I doubt they'll win the cup this year unless Val and Landy can come back at 100% and Georgie can find some consistency which are both big ifs, but I also doubt they'll miss the playoffs.

[@trevorconnatser6161]

I think people are missing the point with the Avs, If I was an Avs fan I would absolutely be panicking. Not panicking about missing the playoffs, but panicking because the teams goaltending is terrible, and has been for quite a while. Even in 2022 I wasn’t impressed with Kemper, and this current Avs team is nowhere near deep enough to outscore their goaltending enough to be legit contenders in my opinion

[@JBTriple8]

yeah I feel My Avs will turn it starting with the Ducks , also hate point out The Lightning won both there 2/3 cups when Steve Yzerman was let go could be the Case for your Red Wings as well.

[@FeelingPeculiar]

I don't understand why the Avs are sticking with Georgie

[@ratedRblazin420]

Their*

[@europason2293]

The Lightning teams that won two Cups were still majority constructed by Yzerman. They would have won whether he stayed or not. It's not as though they were a middling team that were catapulted to contention as soon as he left.

[@Sonicthehedgefundmanager]

I’m not worried, a lot of changes are going to be made this season, this is the season where yzermans picks are going to get into the lineup, this season and next season, call me in denial all you want, it’s about building something that lasts, I feel yzerman is trying to work with whatever he can in terms of the free agent signings to protect his prospects from being needed before they’re ready, it hasn’t been the best plan, and it is what it is, but we’re going to see a lot of the young guys in GR make their way into the lineup over the next two seasons, I’m not expecting playoffs this year, and everyone calling for playoffs or fire yzerman are just casuals, no other way around it.

[@danthompson8577]

I feel like everyone is overacting for the red wings, they'll get better. Seider didn't have a training camp and we have been extremely unlucky

[@Jrrobins99]

as bad as it is for the avs right now i must say, 1st in PP and 32nd in PK is a very funny stat

[@dj4aces]

Reminder: The last time the Sabres made the playoffs, the Thrashers were still in Atlanta.

[@Idkwhattoputhere24-m8v]

It’s one week. Jeez.

[@mondoseguendo6113]

But it’s never too early to abandon all hope!

[@Flaris]

Things can get away from a team fast in the NHL. Digging out of a hole and chasing teams down can get impossible in a hurry.

[@JackConrad-e4v]

Ohnyquist. Lalonde is my biggest concern. Using the proper lines would help a lot. Don’t get me wrong. I don’t think the right lines will make Detroit a top 10 def team lol. But they will for sure at the very least start fighting in each game. That game in Nashville was a good start. But again. Def pairings. I like edvisson with seider. Even if he isn’t quite ready. It puts chairot on second line. My big issue with Lalonde is petry on second line when he should be on 3rd. Just put Johansson on second right side. He’s been playing well. That would open the door for Gustafson to play left side where he belongs.

[@jasonbrowning6034]

Colorado with MacKinnon, Makar, and Ratanen, they should be winning even with the injuries.

[@natedawg3654]

It's never too early to panic

[@Maria_Banks]

The Avs just need to hang on until they get players back and MAYBE until Georgie starts actually playing well. The guy can’t make a game changing save as of right now

[@Something7348]

Honestly I think until the Wings, Sabres and Senators prove they are actually improved we should just get used to seeing the same four teams in the Atlantic make the playoffs…for Christ sakes Montreal looks better than those three teams and they’ve been in the shortest rebuild

[@OhNyquist]

Pretty much!

[@bravepotatoe7513]

nha mtl is starting to look brutal as well in the last 2 games and everyone's getting injured as always

[@FirewagonHockey]

Senators hired travis green and extended him for 4 years. They're gonna keep missing the playoffs.

[@dallassylvestre8155]

Colorado needs a reliable goalie and another top 2 or 4 defence

[@TylerAven10]

Still can’t believe a coaching downgrade was the primary result of the Sabres nightmare offseason

[@Habsfan56744]

As a habs fan I feel for the Avs because I know to much about injuries

[@johanjotun1647]

no need to panic, just Play Danielsson and MBN, if were not better than the rangers, theres no point in reaching when we can be getting experence for our future #1 and #2

[@beneasler8868]

Saying you don't trust Annunen isn't a good enough excuse for the Avs anymore. They are the literal definition of insanity right now. Expecting some miraculous change out of Georgiev every night as they start him over and over and over again.

[@LiamMurphy-d1r]

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[@Fenrirmaster30]

Congrats to Nashville on winning the off season though!

[@Nick-cv5rm]

I was hyped for the wings this season…..they look terrible.

[@timmyturnt]

Tried to warn people about the Red Wings defense to their fanbase and every single one of them said “trust the Yzerplan”

[@MichaelBauer-ei7dj]

Is it possible that with Seider blocking so many shots, or being in position to block shots, screen the goalies line of vision a little to much.... and or the opposing team is using Seider as a screen.

[@nathancjarrett]

It would be good for the Red Wings if they drafted top ten for a few years. Being a perennial bubble team doesn't typically bring end top end talent. Ideally you want to be like the Blackhawks win three cups, fall to the bottom and draft top three picks three years in a row. Lucky bastards.

[@thestifmyster1]

What part of the rebuild do you hate the most? The top prospects in the league or the yearly standings progression? Everyone’s so upset that the Red Wings lost to the best team in the Eastern Conference when they just shut out, Nashville, a couple nights prior. If they played any other team, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation right now. Like calm down

[@davidkruse4030]

lol this red wings team stinks. They beat a bad Nashville team who is also on this panic list. The wings roster is a mess. This is going to be a lost season. Do you enjoy that? Last year was a fluke. Yzerman doesn’t know what he is doing

[@thestifmyster1]

@@davidkruse4030 Yes, I do enjoy them progressing every season :) Yes, I do enjoy the top-tier prospects that they draft every year :) I don’t know what you expected to be different with another GM. The redwings still draft at the bottom 2017 to 2020. In order to get the overall draft pic, you have to win a lottery, which the Red Wings don’t do. So they’ve drafted very well given the position that they were placed at. I don’t know what other prospects you want otherwise. As for other years in the free agency, I don’t know who else you would’ve gotten. The Red Wings management addressed the needs of the team with what was available. And besides, when these contracts from those free agents that were signed expire, the prospects will be ready to play. But if you think throwing a bunch of 19 to 20-year-olds into the mix are ready to make the next step and keep this roster consistently competitive, I don’t know what other teams you’re watching where that makes any sense at all

[@epistiepucks_811]

@@thestifmyster1 Well said Stif, don't worry about Krusey he thought the wings were gonna tank last season, now it's a "fluke".

[@nersharific813]

I honestly don’t know what can be done to turn the Sabres season around. I know it’s still early, but this team is lucky to have one win at all. Ugh.

[@masterbaiters1183]

You hit the nail on the head with the Red Wings but at this point we gotta start talking about Steve Yzerman… he’s been in charge since 2019 and in the subsequent 6 drafts, the Wings have produced 2 NHL regulars with minimal exciting prospects outside of the first round For a team with such massive holes defensively and down the middle, the fact that Kasper, Edvinsson, Wallinder, Tuomisto, Buium or even Nate Danielson (to a much lesser extent) all havent done much of anything in the NHL has to be concerning While I’m not done with Yzerman, I think it’s clear that he’s not one of the top NHL GMs that he was hyped up as… This extends to his time in Tampa where a few Major hits clouded the fact that his drafts have been honestly abysmal early; seriously, Cal Foote, Brett Howden, Libor Hajek, Mitchell Stephens, Jonathan Drouin, Adam Erne, Dominik Masin, Slater Koekkoek and Brett Connolly were all first or very early 2nd round picks of Yzerman’s and they all completely undershot their perceived value (Howden is on the fence as I love him in Vegas… But Vegas saved his career, he looked like a bust like the rest of these guys before… Also Drouin has been pretty solid but he was the 3rd overall pick)… His non bust picks vary from great with Vasi to guys that were worth it just not special with Vlad Namestnikov and Tony DeAngelo Sure he’s had some impeccable hits and deserves some credit for them but I’m of the mind that mid round picks have more to do with luck, scouting and development (I mean if Yzerman thought Kuch was gonna be great, he would’ve drafted him over Vlad Nastmestnikov)… Yzerman’s first round draft record has to be brought up since it should’ve been a red flag when he got hired But even with that, we can’t even gauge whether his picks were truly busts because his awful record in free agency with the Wings has created no opportunity for the kids… There is no reason for Copp and Compher to be on the same team… There is no reason for Holl, Maatta, Petry and Chiarot to be on the same team… there is no reason for Kane and Tarasenko to be on the same team… Pick one of each position and allow them to do their job which is to allow the kids to play off them Goaltending is a little different with goalies taking longer to develop and defense playing a major role but the Husso move was a bust… You’d think this team would accidentally sign a Linus Ulmark, Anthony Stolarz, Freddy Andersen, Adin Hill or Laurent Brossoit just based on sheer luck and the fact that they seem to sign a new mid goalie every year… Like yknow, get at least some one who’s half decent The Wings are in a tough spot… Idk if they’ll have the balls to fire Yzerman but if something doesn’t happen by next season, he certainly deserves to be canned

[@tylerfrisbie222]

Both of you hit the nail on the head. It’s very concerning how we have all this talent but none of them can take a spot from the likes of Charoit, Copp, or other mediocre vets who are taking spots.

[@IceNinja2007]

Dude over here expecting every prospect to be McDavid, Makar, and Vasilevsky. You think this stretch has been bad? Imagine being a wings fan from the mid 60' to the mid 80's. How many HOF level players can you name from that time span, other than Yzerman himself? We're in year 8 of a rebuild, imagine living through 20+ years of misery. You fairweather armchair GM's are insufferable.

[@darkphoenix2]

Lalonde has gotten the Wings to play well many times, but the inconsistency has doomed them. Even if they go a few games playing the defensive system Lalonde is trying to instill in them, and they can pull off wins against good teams like Toronto, Tampa, and Boston, they'll eventually hit a bump the size of a mountain and have games like that total collapse against San Jose last year, or the shootout loss to Philadelphia where they were up 5-0 after the first period. It's like they just can't get the system drilled into their skulls. Maybe it's just too hard to play effectively and Lalonde needs to change his approach. Because at a certain point, that will be his only option if he wants to stay in Detroit.

[@europason2293]

Not to nitpick, but they won the Philly shootout game. Point still stands, though.

[@xavierbergeron8031]

What do you think about the mtl? Do you think habs can be a Wild card this season?

[@jessedietz]

Habs fan here, I think we could but it honestly depends more on coaching strats than anything. I commented a minute ago about it and I have to say, have you noticed any “new” systems or strategies the coaches and players have talked about? Cause I feel like I haven’t which is a bit concerning

[@sambennett2577]

What is your 2nd channel called

[@Taalsman]

There is always one team that really adds in FA and is lauded as a contender just to play dogshit and thos year its the Preds! I'm probably the only one who thought so but it happens almost every year

[@junemacdonald44]

I think the Newsy era should be ending soon here, but Yzerman kept Blashill around way longer than he should have too. The way Steve is managing his roster is confusing as hell, and it’s obvious why we have bad starts; half the forwards are different and none of the defense is better. Save Mo and Simon, the whole bunch of them need to be jettisoned, Newsy isnt workin out at all, and we need our young talent now. I don’t know if it is true, but it feels like the wings are the only team that isn’t willing to even TRY to bring prospects up. Like, it was a huge shock that Raymond made the team when he did, and I’m honestly shocked Kasper is coming up at all, and that’s telling. He’ll probably trade half of them for picks and washed veterans to overpay and then whine about cap room, it’s what he’s done thus far.

[@tuomasvalinen3084]

Saros did well against edmonton? And vancouver is in panic i think

[@BranNew1]

The Red are who we thought they were!

[@mariovaccarella6854]

I think, that, The Chemistry Of New Players has to Gel, with The Nashville Predators. I'm of the view that it will all come together. The Buffalo Sabres are going to have to Change The GM. Kevyn Adams had an OK Tenure, but, by not moving some players, while, at the very same time, not keeping Jeff Skinner, who scored decently, begs the question if he's The Right GM for them/Lindy Ruff (who's going to have A Rough - Pun Intended - Season). Let me know what you think

[@gatorb3678]

Red Wings starting slow is nothing new, give it a little bit and the cohesion will be there with the team.

[@Jarenballor]

Lalonde is so uninspiring too. I’m really ready for Stevie to become president and get a new gm and bring in a new coach. If not we’re cooked

[@edenisburning]

Hey, if it all goes to shit for the Wings this year.. James Hagens would look great in a Wings sweater.

[@erickleroux8357]

Feels like Detroit's problems are fixable. Get rid of Petry Chiarot and Gustafsson. If they go young on defense, they'll be fine. Their forward group is very good, their goaltending should be at least middle of the pack. It's their top 6 on defense that's horrendous.

[@colinsweeney273]

Ottawa gonna break in 🫡🫡

[@jessedietz]

Maybe not persay a panic mode, but Montreal PP has been concerning the last years. I keep hearing about a new system but don’t see anything different strategy wise. Hutson being involved now isn’t a systemic change or strategy change and it worried me to hear players say they are “getting used to new systems” while seemingly seeing the same strats, entries, defensive schemes etc. Am I the only one noticing this?

[@xellossm8444]

Even though Sabres won 5-2 tonight, still no PPG.

[@drstrubb8725]

I’m a red wings fan and I’m throwing up

[@epistiepucks_811]

IMO, Yzerplan is to build a strong leadership core with veteran presence to handle the tough times so the locker room is mature when the young talent comes in and they can actually compete for cups. You first need expectations, than you need to struggle to meet them before you know if the leadership is good enough. Better they face these tests now, as opposed to later when they could blow a legit shot.

[@davidkruse4030]

Bla bla bla

[@epistiepucks_811]

@@davidkruse4030 I hit Translate to English and it said: "Complex thoughts hurt my brain."

[@liammckay3018]

"strong leadership core" seems like code words for "overpaying bad vets"

[@tomblade]

The main problem is not goaltending for the Avs. They have ZERO depth! Both on forwards side and defensemen! You just CAN'T be competitive in the NHL by having just 1 good line! Even if that's one of the best lines in the league! That's just not enough.

[@Sharlez123]

I don't know why anyone would be surprised Detroit isn't doing well. Their lineup is not good.

[@iTry99]

I still have faith in the Stevie Y plan, just gotta let them develop. Most of the prospects he drafted are still looking good. Don’t write him off yet people.

[@ZachDET]

Hey nyquist I have a question. Do you think buffalo & Montreal devolope their players better than detriot? I’m a red wings fan and it’s honestly mind boggling that are team is 95% under performing vets while other teams look better than us that are playing a lot of their prospects. I think the yzerplan needs to end soon. I love and respect the guy but just hasn’t done good at all for this team. Bad contact over bad contract, nothing ever changes. He didn’t address the glaring issues in the off season and let a ton of depth scoring out the window for nothing. This teams management scares me.

[@cameronfranke8566]

4 games only ,not enough to start panicking and acting all delusional like a lot of fans are LGRW

[@peterdemint7195]

i mean nsh doesnt have kuch and point quality passers to set stamkos up for a slapper. nsh got a bunch of fading stars. i figured they had a season or 2 in them but nope..

[@Tdesparza]

I feel like the preds will be ok, the wings are cooked and the avs are definitely in trouble of missing the playoffs.

[@Jerryboss24]

The loss of Walman hurts as well. Walman is a beast in the sharks

[@tomblade]

I still don't understand that trade. why?!

[@Jerryboss24]

@@BurtTurbo it’s been 4 games junior, he’s also playing for the worst team in the league.

[@-Nv-94]

@@Jerryboss24 soooooo…how’s he a beast then?

[@goombaking48]

The Redwings just don't look good. Last year they where making clean passes and hitting people in stride. But this year they seem to be just. Like there is something wrong with the team chemistry.

[@saschaganser9671]

Team missing, the Oilers. Horrible start, can`t loose to the Hawks and Flames at home with that team. Also the way they played, where is the speed? The loss of Holloway, Mcleod and Broberg seems to really set them back and their D is underwhelming. For a team that`s in a must win situation, the hockey played looked really bad. Broberg would have been instantly their 3rd best D.

[@workshoptelescope]

Detroit is cooked. The roster is actively working against the prospect development. They were a paper tiger last season, out-shooting their issues. This season has already revealed the poor roster construction.

[@michalzezula957]

Dont worry trust yzerplan 5 more years and youll get to the playoffs😂😂 maybe stevie will draft someome capable outside of top 10 since echl team is already stacked by second rounders 😂

[@Jarenballor]

The red wings just aren’t fun for me to watch anymore. People called me an idiot when I said it was stupid to sign mid tier players to long contracts. No youth can get into this slow shitty lineup. I truly believe if the defensive core stays the same. We will be cooked. We will have to outscore our problems, and another problem is we can’t score😅. This season might be a write off already. Stevie needs to do something’s or get someone in who will

[@NHLlover-18]

#fireyzerman

[@TheJimmyStDenisShow]

Gru should be fired and the wings should ether get Gallant or bring Fedorov home

[@EnigmaticAristaWingsLord96]

No its way too early only one week in

[@vernonhowell4070]

I find it hilarious that ppl actually thought Detroit had a shot at the playoffs. They have the 3rd worst defence in the league and a bunch of washed vets and overrated young players. The goaltending is also nothing to get excited about. Steven Yzerman is the biggest grifter the NHL has ever seen. Guy has no right being a GM I wouldn’t trust him to get a coffee order right.

[@tannersvenson2608]

No there is literally over 70 games left relax it the start of the season

[@YoungMatt81]

As a blues fan, i am reveling in the failure of the red wings and especially yzerman.

[@davidkruse4030]

As a red wings fan I am reveling in the failure and delusion of blues fan.

[@jonathan.bastiaan]

Sounds like Makar is losing confidence in himself

[@jakeberger4472]

Yea with 8 points in 4 games I kinda doubt that

[@HxCDood]

Okay but he also needs to play defense…offense only goes so far when you are losing games on defense lapses. He has to step up with Toews out too.

[@jakeberger4472]

@@HxCDood He's had one or two bad defensive lapses, but so has every top D, it just happens at the NHL level. Only reasons Makar's is more noticable is because they usually end up in a goal because Georgiev, and also because the Avs are losing right now. He's been overall good defensively, always has been.

[@thestifmyster1]

Still panicking? Or we waiting for another random loss to rip on Yzerman?

[@OhNyquist]

Yep, they have gotten outplayed in every single game this season.

[@redwings_x6483]

Every one in management and coaching has to be fired yzerman is a horrible Ken holland

[@mattblom3990]

I drafted Larkin pretty early in my hockey pool. I had heard of him called an "outstanding second liner" and he's playing less than that right now. Had a good game early on but that was it and he's killing me in the pool.

[@richrealdeal6606]

Sens should be there. Idc if we are 2-2. Losing any games hurt and we cant afford to have slow start. Already concerned as a Sens fan

[@mil2172]

2 and 2 isn't a slow start.

[@michaelandrew8493]

Move the sabres at this point I'm sick of it

[@ChoppedChives]

Yippee

[@15DurangoRT]

It's time to hit the "get rid of Yzerman" button.

[@tankdiggs8974]

WHY ARE CONTENT CREATORS DOING THESE IS IT LAME TO PANIC SO EARLY IN THE NHL STOP...JUST STOP ITS PATHETIC, I know these 2pointss can come back to haunt for every game but still STFU

[@tankdiggs8974]

also I m a Leaf fan so your not talking about my team but this is annoying