Is it Time to Upgrade to Dump Truck?!? | Major Upgrade for my Excavation Business

[@cesarguajardo5120]

Great content, Let me start by saying Im a CDL Driver. I've been trucking since 1998 off and on. You are correct in saying if the truck is rated for under 26001 Lbs it doesn't require a CDL. But if you attach your equipment trailer to it, Now it does require a Class A CDL. You are required to have a DOT physical and obtain a Health Card. Your truck requires a DOT Number and Possibly depending on several factors: an MC# and an IFTA Permit if you travel anywhere outside of your state, Apportion License Plates, And you may be required to log your hours of service ( but there's several exceptions to this that depend on how far you travel for work and such). Your Vehicle will have to go through a DOT Inspection and EVERYTHING even remotely safely related and mechanical MUST be in working order or be repaired to pass inspection. Because you will become a Target to DOT officers eager to pull you over just to do a roadside inspection(Expect That) where they will go over your truck (with a fine comb as they say) and ticket you for everything they find,including over weight. Not just of your load in general but they may do this on a per axle weight if your load is uneven and one part of your truck is too heavily loaded you could be fined(Commercial Truck fines are quite expensive)And they could put you out of service, meaning you have to get everything fixed right then and there on the spot before you can move the vehicle, or have it towed to a repair shop of your choice. (Note:Roadside Services of any kind really, including tow service, is also very costly.) Once everything gets fixed you send your repair bill and description of the repairs to the court when you get ready to clear your fines to show everything has been fixed. You can hire a CDL lawyer to handle that for you. All this is quit pricy. It could raise your insurance rates and count against your license points. If you get too many you may find it difficult to stay insured. Consult with your Local Commercial DMV For further information. And possibly consult an attorney that handles CDL Cases to see what all you have to do to prepare. Either way, (you're a smart person), I'm sure you will figure out a plan that works best for you.. It's not all bad. It's not all Doom and Gloom. Once you get everything done and all paperwork and permits handled it's business as usual. Just saying this to make you aware of the up front Many hurdles in your path. And it will put a hurt on the wallet for a bit. So may I suggest this alternative. Fix your trailer the best possible way or trade up to continue using it for the regular duties and just look to rent a 5 yard dump for the bigger jobs which is one that doesn't require a CDL, and don't attach anything that may be considered a trailer to it. If something breaks on the truck where repairs are needed the rental company is responsible for this. You may be responsible for things like flat tire repairs and such. But for other stuff, let them worry about the repairs, permits, and licenses. And only get it if and when you need it. Good Luck My Friend, I'm rooting for your success. ..God Bless You, Your Family, and Your Business..

[@mrsalsamafia]

Giving God the glory, you already got it figured out young Dave. Your channel is my favorite no non-sense channel had the nephew watching yesterday thinking about selling my 12 x 6 dump trailer and going with a 8 x 8 dump with telescopic lift..

[@danielfennig8592]

First I want to say you are killing it man, second I wanted to share what I am doing here in east central Indiana. I am 19 now btw, a year ago I payed cash for a tak tl140 skid, ran that 600 hours this year and then took a note out on a Deere 160clc. 3 months ago I realized how bad I needed a dump truck so I planned on getting an under cdl singe axle, after running the numbers I realized there is not a dime in running one of those trucks!!!!! So I decided to invent long term snd spent 5k and a lot of time a few months ago to get my class a cdl. Right after that I took another note out on a quad axle Mack cl713 and it has been the best decision I have made this year, has let to so many more jobs other than trucking, around here people pay around 6 per ton to truck stone 20 miles so the fact that I can haul 22 ton has made it actually profitable. If you haven’t done anything yet I would wait till winter spend the money on the cdl and buy a truck they you can actually put weight in safely

[@GunslingerOriginal]

You'd do better finding a single axle dump truck ready to go. Instead of looking for a fabrication shop to piece one together. You would come out cheaper that way.

[@Proverbs2420]

I was feeening for a new episode let’s Go 💪🏾🔥🔥

[@waynegriffin6887]

Keep up the good work my friend 💪🏾🙏🏾

[@ericsimmons7310]

Keep grinding young brother. Keep Grinding up!

[@TheHammer24-7]

Upgrade! It's a 1992 though, lets goooo dump truck! I think it might be a lot cheaper to find one already ready to rock and roll though.

[@EntreprenuerDavis]

@@TheHammer24-7 I think you might be right

[@villegaslawnmaintenance6303]

It’s better to get it new dump truck 2024 🎉

[@Ericksonearthworks]

I got my CDL first started working for other guys to get experience. But your best bet is to get your CDL before you look into a dump truck it just makes life easier and you don’t have to be too picky on what truck you get.

[@ricardosanchez6723]

Personally brotha like you said you don’t always need a dump truck for every job but you always need a trailer to move equipment so why not just just sell both dump trailers and grab a heavier duty gooseneck dump trailer and get a gooseneck equipment trailer

[@ExpressExteriorsLLC]

I say stick with the dump trailers, seems to be the cheaper route unless you go CDL-A. I have a sure trac 14x7 with 14k and telescopic lift. Pretty good so far. Need to put it to work more though.

[@Evanxkenders]

your best bet would to be get a class A which is super easy i got mine in 4 weeks showing up 2/3 days a week. Get a tandem dump truck. That older dump truck will be a pain in the butt and you cannot hook a trailer to it with out getting into cdl territory. Id say replace the kti pump for 400$ , sell the trailer and in the mean time work on getting that cdl so by the time it sells youll be able to get the dump truck.

[@chmurray4644]

Gooseneck dump trailer with telescopic lift. That way you still have a trailer to haul equipment around with and goosenecks ride way better then bumper pulls

[@lessimpson6465]

If I’m correct you already have a cdl as your loaded dump trailer would exceed 10K. Assuming that’s the case, a single axle dump truck with 33k gvwr is the best and you can keep your f250 for smaller jobs with dump trailer. You could also use the dump trailer to haul equipment until you financially recover or find an affordable equipment trailer to replace the dump trailer. I’d look for something like a late 90’s early 2000’s international 4700 or 4900 with the mechanical 7.3 diesel. They are available and relatively cheap to buy and maintain. Most that are dumps will handle about ten tons and I forget what the GCWR rating is but it’s pretty high. I wouldn’t want some shop to fabricate a dump for me as most times they get it wrong in one way or another.

[@JackofHaulTrades]

You can't go wrong with a Top Shelf Dump Trailer brother! Plus you have a good new reliable truck. If you go with a dump truck you should still keep a dump trailer around just my 2 cents 🤷‍♂️

[@EntreprenuerDavis]

@@JackofHaulTrades that makes sense honestly because I was thinking about the reliability of the dump truck since it is an older truck

[@LoadedDownJunkRemoval]

Top Shelf all the way!! No complaints!! Reliability goes along way!!!!! I’m not one for used equipment. Not knowing all info. … And if your dump truck goes down your out a trailer and a vehicle. My .02 Good Luck either way you decide to go 👍🏼

[@josemigueljr]

Just did a quick search there's a ford l9000 single axle dump truck with a cummins for sale $18000. I think that's better than going through the whole process of fabricating your own dumb bed.

[@kevinhandy751]

I would get another dump trailer it serves two purposes hauling equipment and material you can do both at the same time. a dump truck you can't haul your equipment just thought I'd put it out there

[@lamarpowell1389]

Good luck 11:

[@laneellsworth805]

You need a truck like Same Day dumpsters.

[@puddlejumper3534]

I have a similar dump truck. 6 tons is all I can haul legally. It will haul more but it’s a chance to take

[@puddlejumper3534]

Do you price per job or by the hour? I generally price per job.

[@kubota33]

Get the right size bucket for your skid steer. Throw out the 3 foot bucket

[@charleslynch908]

I think your generated revenue would be the tipping point. Customers pay for the materials. Around me, a full load is sub 150 for a full load. I would want to be moving 1/2 to 1 million tons a year with a driver to get away from paying delivery costs that I’m passing on to the customer. The more you drive a truck around, the less time you are spending moving that material on site. My delivery people are typically on time or early so the convenience factor is through the roof. If you go dump truck, I wouldn’t half step on it. Get something big, get your cdl, and reach out to other contractors for hauling.

[@jeffg3895]

Just remember, if you buy that truck, you cannot tow anything with it because it’s GVWR is 26,000 pounds. That’s the max without a CDL.

[@EntreprenuerDavis]

That is in fact true

[@khayyandickson7645]

I'm not sure what state you are in, but for the majority of the US you can't go wrong with getting your CDL. From there you can decide on a class 7 or 8 truck. Stay away from older trucks. New truck are very expensive, but it's less expensive than maintenance on a piece of junk. Truck paper online is a very good place to find new or a good used truck.

[@Jackknife-TV]

Just to let you know you can get a 22,000 lb three axle dump trailer (hulk trailers)

[@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power]

Sounds like you need a stronger trailer. Sell that and trade for a new one, or have someone rebuild the current trailer better than ever for less money, or like others are saying, get the cdl....then you can get a dump truck ( if you can afford it ) and a deckover trailer for equipment.

[@MixedConservativePerspective]

Couldn’t you get a new pump for your dump trailer for pretty cheap? Also new piston if you need it. I believe they’re under a grand for everything.

[@Biggerdreams-rc3ow]

Telescopic dump trailer not scissor 👍🏿

[@jasonesposito8022]

BUY MY TOPSHELF 7x16x3 upgraded axles. Ramps. Telescopic. In Palm Bay not to far from you. Brand new. Not even 1 month old. Had to get a gooseneck equipment trailer

[@denigelmccarthy1485]

New dump trailer

[@ruvimx867]

In my area fabrication company will charge 8000$ If you add price of a dump truck + The bed + fabrication company. You can get much better dump truck with that money, ready to go!

[@josemigueljr]

Go big or go home stop messing around and get your cdl. Also my vote is to buy a single axle dump truck. It'll be cheaper and specced for it unlike the flatbed Kodiak. I'm local to you (brevard) with a couple trucks of my own let me know if you have any questions

[@ruvimx867]

Eventually you're going to need CDL. So either get it now and get better truck or get a truck aroun 25000 GWR with no CDL required. Butt dump truck is 100% right decision!

[@texas4325]

26,001 for cdl

[@ErnestRusseau-b4m]

I would get a dump truck ready to go , it will pay for itself

[@BENNHENDRICKS33]

I’m confused on how you’re getting 6-7 ton payload on a 14k trailer. At 6-7 ton your overloading it when you figure how much the trailer weighs. You’re most likely at 4.5 ton.

[@JeffreyWindley-n4i]

Get a cdl and do what you want to do .

[@EntreprenuerDavis]

That is true give me a lot more to work with

[@ExpressExteriorsLLC]

Also, why not get a loan on a better / newer, truck, safer and less immediate maintenance, unless you get a Toyota those things are awesome

[@michaelgrier3537]

Don’t buy dump trucks used from my experience, you got a good thing going, if you can avoid a dump truck do so, prices for everything is unreal in 2024. If you do decide to buy it have it tested from top to bottom including oil samples. Check for accessibility of engine parts etc. make sure you have 2-3 good mechanics on your payroll lol. Good luck brother.

[@jeffhunter8879]

The dump truck will cost you a lot more to operate. Registration, insurance, and maintenance. Be careful, don't grow faster then your man power.

[@prestonmoore8643]

Buy a new dump trailer do you can haul your equipment ive never seen anyone haul a skid in a dump truck thats oretty high off the ground safety would be a concern but another great vudeo god bless

[@JackofHaulTrades]

I agree 👍

[@semajjackson6834]

Get the top shelf

[@BENNHENDRICKS33]

Dump truck when your business can support it.

[@CurtisLandworksVT]

I've struggled with this question myself and come to the conclusion that an under CDL dump truck does not make sense. I chose to hire tandem axle trucks for my larger trucking and I pay them cash, and I pay them well. I have relationships with 4 different guys with trucks and I can always get a truck when I need one. I also have a dump trailer that I use for smaller hauls. You cannot legally haul your equipment with that dump truck. I don't think you are going to want to mess with trying to get equipment in the bed. The ramps would be way too long and too heavy to handle. Get your dump trailer working, make a future plan to get a CDL and get a real truck when the time is right. Now isn't the time based on what I can see.

[@hhunt2527]

I’m not sure how the math is going to work out on that if you don’t have a CDL. You wont be able to pull your skid on a trailer with that set up using the dump truck. Not sure if you thought about that. I would say get your Class A CDL if you plan on doing this long term. That’s the ultimate investment in yourself and business. Best of luck and God Bless!

[@EntreprenuerDavis]

That why I asked at the end is it possible to put my skid on the dump body

[@--92]

@@EntreprenuerDavisultimately the weight will be > than 26,000 lbs. so you would need an CDL. Plus any vehicle with air brakes will require a CDL

[@dannyslandservices]

@@--92not true you can drive vehicles with air brakes with a class C with an air brake endorsement as long as it’s under 26k gvwr

[@jackwilson9572]

@@EntreprenuerDavisOkay dude you can put it on a dump body as long as you have rings to secure it no problem people do that In California all the time. But to me it makes zero sense because you’re going to have to find a way to load that machine up high off the ground and onto the dump body. Go get your CDL. But if you want to keep the way you’re going with dump trailer get a motorized dump trailer they’ll lift the dump trailer with heavy loads no problem. Electrical dump trailers aren’t as good as dump trailers with a motor on it.

[@Jackknife-TV]

Hey just wondering I just came out of a failing business... Trucking ..... And I was wondering how did you start did you have a lot of money up front ECT. I was planning to get a used ram 1500 or 2500 a dump trailer and used most likely older skid steer.... Also what did you do about competition I live in Northeast PA and I would imagine everybody and their brother has some sort of excavating/landscaping company.

[@bryanriedel1322]

Im from iowa but have built a business I started doing everything the hard way everything by hand then got into renting equipment and building profit through renting

[@jackwilson9572]

Look a truck with a single axle can’t weigh more than 33,000 if it’s a class 6 a class 7 truck isn’t even allowed to hold even that legally. In Cali we’re not allowed to haul even our truck limits because of safety issues and it’s true! Don’t try to push the trucks limits overloading it can also make it easier for tipping too if you don’t balance the load I’m sure you understand that. Any single axle dump shouldn’t have more than 8.5 tons when driving long distances or 10 depending on far you go. Also air brakes! Hydraulic brakes aren’t good enough to brake that semi truck you need air brakes. And I don’t know if your carb compliant laws but any truck before 2000 have harder times passing smog if that can be an issue.

[@dwills4000]

Dump truck option

[@bigmanhauling]

Good buy a used hooklift

[@Artist21st]

Yes. You need a dump truck.

[@metking21]

Go head and get your CDL a class so you're not limiting yourself for future expansion.

[@MrLoco61]

Sounds like your motor is burnt on the hydraulic pump

[@abromedmond6562]

Fix your trailer it's the cheaper. Then making a dump truck. If you going to buy a dump truck . Buy a real dump truck in good condition. Keep up the good work

[@joeyschannel3760]

Making a truck is gonna cost more than buying one that’s turn key already

[@EntreprenuerDavis]

You might be right honestly I have been calling around to fabrication companies

[@Fayettepropertysolutions]

That truck can NOT hold 10 tons. It sounds like you need to outsource your trucking and or do a little bit more research to figure out what you can and can’t do with different size trucks.

[@azadsmith5174]

Dump truck bro